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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up?

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Speaker 3: Straight firefam hits me Jason McIntyre, Straight Bowyer for Thursday,

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Speaker 3: November the twentieth. We've got a good Thursday night football game.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Bill's visit the Texans as I record this Bill's

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Speaker 3: six point favorites on the road.

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Speaker 1: No, CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: If you guys remember that concussion, he took a brutal hit.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was against the Denver Broncos. I thought

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Speaker 3: it was a dirty play. Instantly, it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Stroud's definitely gonna be out a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: People are like, oh, it's not dirty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, man, some of these hits that these

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks take, we just they cannot absorb them. And Stroud's

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Speaker 3: gonna miss another one. And this probably is the nail

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Speaker 3: on the coffin for the Texans playoff hopes. I'll get

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Speaker 3: into the game in a second. I do have a

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Speaker 3: best bet. I did put some money on it, like

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Speaker 3: a fool. But obviously the star of this podcast will

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Speaker 3: be Jovon Bouja. He is a reporter who covers the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: He was at the Athletic Now he's running his own shop.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool, and obviously we're very excited that Lebron

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Speaker 3: James is back. He tends to Yovanne does agree with

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Speaker 3: my Austin Reeves take that he's an All Star. He

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Speaker 3: has two interesting trade idea for the Lakers. I think

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Speaker 3: like it's gonna happen at this point unless we give

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Speaker 3: up Austin Reeves. And I want Giannis, but I just

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Speaker 3: want to see what this Reeves Lebron Luca thing looks like.

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Speaker 3: I'm probably irrationally eye on the Lakers, but that's just

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Speaker 3: me anyways, real quick, So my question about the Texans

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Speaker 3: are are they good enough to beat.

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Speaker 2: A good team?

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Speaker 3: And I asked that because if you look at who

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Speaker 3: they've played this year and who they've beat. Okay, they

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Speaker 3: played the Rams close one, lost, played Tampa close one,

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Speaker 3: blew it at home. I remember that when I was

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Speaker 3: on them, they lost to Jacksonville, Stroud, imploded late, smashed

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Speaker 3: Tennessee trash, beat Baltimore when Baltimore was down bad. I

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Speaker 3: think that was the first game post Lamar. That was

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Speaker 3: an easy dub for the Texans. Go to Seattle primetime,

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Speaker 3: lose face Sanfrid win. It was a one PM kick.

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Speaker 3: San France had injuries. That's their best win of the

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Speaker 3: season against a beat up. They were favored by three

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Speaker 3: and a half for what it's worth. Lose a tough

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Speaker 3: one to Denver at home when I was on them.

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Speaker 3: That was the game where Stroud got knocked outs. It

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Speaker 3: was close, but you know, Davis Mills couldn't get it done.

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Speaker 3: Beat Jacksonville, beat Tennessee, Like where is the quality wins?

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Speaker 3: Anytime they step up in class, they fight hard and

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Speaker 3: come up with a close loss. So I cannot justify

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Speaker 3: backing the Houston Texans here.

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Speaker 2: Now I see six.

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Speaker 3: But it looks like it maybe trending toward five and

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Speaker 3: a half. And I get that. I totally understand it.

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Speaker 3: Houston's defense is quite formidable. They will probably bottle up

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Speaker 3: got a good secondary.

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Speaker 2: And nobody in Houston.

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Speaker 3: Nobody in Houston is terrified of Khalil Shakir getting ten

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Speaker 2: Is he even gonna play?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be a healthy scratch

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Speaker 3: The kid Shavers looks good, but eh A Dalton first

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Speaker 3: staid out again he's on my fantasy team. I had

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Speaker 3: to finally cut him. I mean, I just don't have

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Speaker 3: just don't know if Buffalo can get separation. Then the

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Speaker 3: question becomes, well, what can Davis Mills do against this

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Speaker 2: Well, look at what Sean Tucker did last week. Kid,

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Speaker 2: would he marks do the same thing. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: I mean that Tampa Bay's offense did look great, but

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Speaker 3: I think this is probably low scoring. Buffalo obviously can

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Speaker 2: Is this one? I mean, you can't lose.

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Speaker 3: You have to assume that the Patriots' big favorites are

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Speaker 2: I see.

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Speaker 3: I want to bet the under, but all it takes

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Speaker 3: is one or two splash plays from Buffalo, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I did actually lay it with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: My guess is what it matters most. Davis Mills vomits

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Speaker 2: So I'm on Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Here what number did I get? I am on Buffalo

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Speaker 3: minus five and a half, so I don't hate it.

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Speaker 2: At six.

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Speaker 3: I just can't see a world where Buffalo loses this.

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Speaker 3: massive game since they're both fighting for wildcard berths. Then

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Speaker 2: To get into the AFC wildcard spot. So find me

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Speaker 2: two more wins. You know, maybe they win it. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: maybe they win it the Chiefs. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just I can't trust Davis Mills to get it

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Speaker 3: will say Bill's twenty seven Texans seventeen so I'll go Bill,

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Speaker 3: So I'll go with well, actually, that's that's the over,

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Speaker 3: go twenty four fourteen Buffalo, Buffalo in the under. There

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Speaker 3: we go, all right, without further ado, let's get to

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Speaker 3: our guest, Jovan Booha.

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Speaker 1: You know, guy Jason likes to think he knows everything

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Speaker 1: when it comes.

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Speaker 2: To sports, sports dance once.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire Lakers Insider.

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Speaker 3: He's been I mean, he's worked around many spots. He's

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Speaker 3: currently the beautiful life running his own business. Jovon Boha,

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Speaker 3: how are you man?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well, man, Thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a great time of year to

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Speaker 3: it's the holidays. It's like, oh, Thanksgiving, I don't have

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Speaker 3: that today. But you got a good team right on

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Speaker 3: your hands right now. These Lakers are nasty. I feel

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Speaker 3: like a lot of people are surprised. I'm not that surprised,

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Speaker 3: are you by the start?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: I mean the only part that's been surprising has been

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Speaker 5: and it's like, because they're the Lakers, because the NBA

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Speaker 4: So like that. There was a lot to like last night.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is interesting, so many things get unlocked

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Speaker 3: in a second. So I didn't realize top five in

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Speaker 3: for the Lakers, that's an insane stat, Yovann, because everybody in.

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Speaker 2: The league is hurt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Brian Windworst was the one who

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Speaker 3: Kurt talked about it, and yet the Lakers are top five.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, No, They've had a really rough go of

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean that's a whole other conversation because

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't see the full interview.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems unlikely. All right, let's quickly go before

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Speaker 5: They've won without Austin. They obviously were winning without Lebron

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Like I think that they've taken a big leap this

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Speaker 3: So I had this hot take on the Herd that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he can be an All Star.

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Speaker 4: With Austin, I had him right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 5: where he's like relocating and cutting and doing all these

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Speaker 5: smart things offensively, and then he's also a guy who's

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Speaker 5: gonna move the ball and like, he's not selfish, He's

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Speaker 5: not a If I have an open shot, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to necessarily take it. So like, I think he's a

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Speaker 5: guy that's been a very nice like Swiss army knife

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Speaker 5: off of their bench. So yeah, you know what I will,

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Speaker 5: I will take the w.

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Speaker 3: Not to gass up every Laker, but I'll be honest,

449
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Speaker 3: DeAndre eight and the Blazers couldn't dump him fast enough.

450
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Speaker 3: Phoenix was regretting the contract before the ink was dry.

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Speaker 3: And now DeAndre eight and it looks like a capable guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a little clunky at times. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's a great fit against say, okay, see the

454
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Speaker 3: speed just seemed to overwhelm him. But against most of

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Speaker 3: the league, he's a serviceable center. He's a huge upgrade

456
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Speaker 3: over Jackson Hayes, who now we get in small doses,

457
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Speaker 3: which is perfect. I mean DeAndre Eyighton. Honestly, people laughed

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Speaker 3: when the Lakers signed him.

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Speaker 5: They did, and I believe he's at four twenty and

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Speaker 5: ten games this season. I'm quickly looking it up here,

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Speaker 5: like that is not something that Jackson hayes.

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Speaker 4: No, he excuse me.

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Speaker 5: He's at six twenty and ten games this season, so

464
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Speaker 5: he's given them a level of stability on the interior

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Speaker 5: that I think to your earlier point, I thought he

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Speaker 5: laid an egg in the Atlanta and okay See games.

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Speaker 5: And he is a guy that I do feel like

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Speaker 5: when the group isn't quite as connected on a given night,

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Speaker 5: or isn't all like mentally there, that he can kind

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Speaker 5: of fall into that and be a little susceptible with that.

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Speaker 5: But outside of those two games in particular, I think

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Speaker 5: he's been really really solid all season, and I think

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Speaker 5: the like I go back to that Spurs.

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Speaker 4: Game where they beat the Spurs in.

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Speaker 5: Crunch time, and I thought he outplayed Wemby for the

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Speaker 5: course of that game and especially in crunch time, And

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Speaker 5: like that was not something I was anticipating going to

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Speaker 5: the season. This dude's making eight million dollars by any measure,

479
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Speaker 5: he has outkicked that salary, and he has a player

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Speaker 5: option for next season. It's gonna be really interesting to

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Speaker 5: see what ends up happening next offseason. Obviously, he's got

482
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Speaker 5: to stay healthy, he's got to remain bought in. But

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Speaker 5: I think the big thing has been, like he's just

484
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Speaker 5: accepted I'm going to screen and roll hard and either

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Speaker 5: finish with lobs or lamps around the basket, or I'm

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Speaker 5: going to be a short role playmaker or take that

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Speaker 5: little jumper. But he's not getting many post ups. They're

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Speaker 5: not calling his number that often. Love that and like

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Speaker 5: he's bought in, right, So I think he deserves a

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Speaker 5: lot of credit for He's done a lot of the

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Speaker 5: dirty work this year for LA and I think that's

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Speaker 5: been a big part of their success.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so now we can go to Lebron and again

494
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Speaker 3: it's one game, the sample size is timey, and they

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Speaker 3: play Utah again this weekend.

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Speaker 2: But I think you hit it earlier.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that seven shots was the fewest of

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Speaker 3: his career for a game he finished.

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Speaker 2: I watched him closely, so basically, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, they didn't bound the ball and if they were

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Speaker 3: all over Luca, Lebron would take a few dribbles, then

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Speaker 3: give it to Luca and then just kind of go

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Speaker 3: off to the side. And it's not like he was pouting.

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Speaker 3: Now they're winning, it's utah. But he seemed totally content

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Speaker 3: to just like kind of watch and facilitate and work

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Speaker 3: his his way in. So my hot take would be, well, shucks,

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Speaker 3: if this is the new Lebron and this is going

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Speaker 3: to be him for I don't know much of the season,

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Speaker 3: maybe this is a different role. You start thinking next year,

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Speaker 3: you would love to keep this Lebron. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: maybe he'd be willing to play for a lesser salary

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Speaker 3: as opposed to go somewhere else to try to score

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Speaker 3: forty a game or twenty five a game. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to go too overboard, but if this is Lebron's

515
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Speaker 3: segueing into hey, this is the new me, that's a

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Speaker 3: huge unlock for the Lakers this year and next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I totally agree. And it was just a different

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Speaker 5: It was a different Lebron than we've ever seen in

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Speaker 5: the sense of how much he was off the ball.

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Speaker 5: I wonder how much of it was just first game back,

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Speaker 5: you know, like, especially that first half, I thought he

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Speaker 5: was really selective in picking his spots and you know,

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Speaker 5: very deferential, and then he started to be more assertive

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Speaker 5: in the second half. But yeah, I mean twelve assists

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Speaker 5: in twenty nine minutes is just remarkable and nothing felt

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Speaker 5: unsustainable with what he was doing. It was a lot

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Speaker 5: of like DeAndre Ayton said it after the game that

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Speaker 5: there was a couple of those he didn't know Lebron

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Speaker 5: saw him and he didn't even know he was open

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Speaker 5: on the role or on the cut, and he was like,

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Speaker 5: Lebron passed me into being open. So I think his

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Speaker 5: connection with Deandret and already he had four or five

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Speaker 5: assists to him, a couple of assists to Jacob Ravia

535
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Speaker 5: on driving kicks, Gabe Vincent on driving kick like he

536
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Speaker 5: just was doing everything the Lakers needed, and I think

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Speaker 5: there'd been an element that they had been missing where

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Speaker 5: we saw it especially against Okay. See, they were trapping

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Speaker 5: and blitzing Luca. Luca gets rid of the ball and

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Speaker 5: the Lakers couldn't really capitalize on those four on three situations.

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Speaker 5: Now you had Lebron either as the passer or as

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Speaker 5: a cutter or is he even a weak side shooter,

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Speaker 5: Like he could do so many things offensively that he

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Speaker 5: can shape shift, and that's where like I think he's

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Speaker 5: in a tough position because looking at Luca Austin and Lebron.

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Speaker 5: All three guys are best with the ball in their hands,

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Speaker 5: but Lebron is the most versatile off of the ball.

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Speaker 5: So naturally you're not going to tell Luca like cut

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Speaker 5: or or just be a shooter.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to tell like Austin maybe a little

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Speaker 4: bit more.

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Speaker 5: But Lebron is the guy who could do everything basically

553
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Speaker 5: for their offense, So I think naturally he has to

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Speaker 5: be more the guy screen roll, cut, spot up, like

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Speaker 5: that's going to be more of his role when Luca's

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Speaker 5: out there. Now, we also saw when Luca's off the floor,

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Speaker 5: it's now the Austin Lebron on show, and Lebron could

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00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: do a bit more offensively. So I think it's a

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Speaker 5: really nice luxury to have if you're the Lakers, and

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Speaker 5: I think this is going to elevate their offense to

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Speaker 5: being they're already top five in half court possessions offensively,

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Speaker 5: I think we're talking about like top three or maybe

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Speaker 5: even in the conversation for one.

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Speaker 3: So defensively, there are gonna be some questions. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: just hypothetically, a match up against the Minnesota Timberwolves in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, as we saw last year the Lakers didn't

567
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Speaker 3: have any real games together. But I think McDaniels guarded

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Speaker 3: Luca and they put I believe ant On on Reeves

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Speaker 3: and Reeves kind of struggled to get his shot. I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's many defenders who can who can lock

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Speaker 3: up Reeves like ant or like a lou Dort.

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Speaker 2: I think Reeves.

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Speaker 3: I think Lebron at this point, would you say he's

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Speaker 3: deferential to Reeves who can create a shot better than Lebron?

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I yes, and no, right, Like I think

576
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Speaker 5: I think Lebron. The luxury for Lebron is he can

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Speaker 5: pick his spots a little bit more and he doesn't

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Speaker 5: have to do as much as he has two in

579
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Speaker 5: the past. But I think he will be able to

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Speaker 5: Like I think, I don't know why people had like

581
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 5: collective in amnesia about again, this dude just finished sixth

582
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Speaker 5: and MVP voting like, and you know, I just I don't.

583
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: I don't really know what else to say other than

584
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Speaker 5: he was clearly a top ten player this season and

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00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: yes it's I mean last season. Yeah, and dealing with

586
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: the sciatica that's going to be a factor and that

587
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 5: might cost him future games or you know, force him

588
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 5: to play fewer minutes, but he still is incredibly like,

589
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 5: potentially the most skilled player we've ever seen in NBA history,

590
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: And even if he's not quite the same level of athlete,

591
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: he's still an elite athlete. And I thought there was

592
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Speaker 5: a couple of times he got downhill where you saw

593
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Speaker 5: him turn on the jets and like he can still

594
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Speaker 5: hit that turbo button at a very high level. So

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Speaker 5: I think he might be more deferential to Austin just

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Speaker 5: in terms of conserving his energy. I don't think it's

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Speaker 5: so much as like Austin is surpassed him, or Austin's

598
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Speaker 5: like a better player offensive player necessarily. I just think

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Speaker 5: it's more so like if Lebron can be the number

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Speaker 5: three and just do a little bit less and then

601
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Speaker 5: even do more defensively, which is where LA really needs him.

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Speaker 4: That's where I think, you know, it's kind of a

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Speaker 4: win win, But.

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Speaker 3: The days of like, hey, shot clocks at six, Lebron,

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Speaker 3: can you get us a shot, like, I think.

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Speaker 2: We're done with that.

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00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: And Reeves Reeves, I think in that scenario could do more.

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Speaker 3: Just when you look at how the Lakers shape up

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Speaker 3: against the rest of the West, I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 3: The West is kind of surprising. I don't think many

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Speaker 3: people had Dallas being this bad. They are not a

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Speaker 3: playoff team even if Ad comes back. Kyrie's not coming back.

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Speaker 3: But forget the Pelicans. Paper Clips as we record right

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00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: now are four and ten. I mean, the West is

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Speaker 3: a little bit weaker than I thought. I mean, nobody

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Speaker 3: thinks this is going to be sustainable for the Suns.

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Speaker 3: So really we're looking at like six teams in the West.

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Speaker 3: Would you say, yo, wan, yeah, Thunder Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, Spurs,

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Speaker 3: and Timberwolves.

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Speaker 2: I get the Warriors.

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Speaker 5: I think the Warriors are gonna bounce back, and I

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Speaker 5: actually think the Spurs. Now Wemby's out two to three weeks,

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Speaker 5: Castle's out one to two weeks.

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Speaker 4: They're all right without heart with Harper.

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Speaker 5: So I think the Spurs are going to come back

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Speaker 5: down to earth, and I think Golden State will probably

627
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Speaker 5: take the six spot.

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Speaker 4: San Antonio will drop into the plan.

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Speaker 5: But that top six or seven is to me the

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Speaker 5: six or seven teams to take seriously in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 5: The issue for the Lakers right now is that looking

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Speaker 5: at what okay, see, Denver and Houston are all doing,

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Speaker 5: from a point differential and net rating perspective, is like

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Speaker 5: everyone's focusing.

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Speaker 4: On okay see and rightfully so.

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Speaker 5: But Denver right now statistically is like in that conversation

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Speaker 5: for best team of all time in like a regular

638
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Speaker 5: season perspective, now, not record wise, but like they're beating

639
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: team is by twelve points per game, which is a

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Speaker 5: very elite like that is seventy two bowls. I mean,

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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: you know, ninety six bowls, seventy two wins like level

642
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: point differential. So the problem for the Lakers right now

643
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: is that there's three monsters in the West who are

644
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Speaker 5: basically blowing everybody out on a nightly basis, and the

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Speaker 5: Lakers have a lot of close wins where they're eking

646
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Speaker 5: by So for example, like they're basically tied record wise

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Speaker 5: with Denver and Houston, but Denver's beating people by twelve

648
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Speaker 5: points a game, Houston's at eleven point five.

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Speaker 4: Lakers are just at three points per game.

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Speaker 5: So that's a massive gap between the Lakers and Houston

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Speaker 5: and Denver.

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Speaker 2: So, but those guys are way healthier right than the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: Are are healthier, right And I think that Denver, now

654
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 5: they just lost Christian Brown. That's going to I mean

655
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 5: we already saw them moves to Chicago. That that's going

656
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Speaker 5: He's out six weeks. See, he's out for a while. Yeah,

657
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: So the Houston, you know, I think the offense is

658
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 5: probably going to come down a little bit, so the

659
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 5: Lakers are going to make up some of that ground.

660
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: I just think for me, right now, they're probably the

661
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 5: fourth best team in the West unless they make a trade.

662
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: I still think that fifth starter slash closer spot is

663
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 5: the spot I would look to upgrade of.

664
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's like.

665
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: Ruy Hutchmore doesn't give you enough defense, Marcus Smart doesn't

666
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: give you enough offense. Oh Smart cannot make a shit

667
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: to combine those two guys to have, you know, a

668
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: baby and that guy be the fifth person.

669
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: That's who you'd want.

670
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: But right now, I think like Rui's not a wing

671
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: stopper and Smart is not a reliable shooter.

672
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: So that's the whole.

673
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: So you have you drilled down on this. Could you

674
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: find anyone that someone would take for those thoughts?

675
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 5: I think I think there's even a path to not

676
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: necessarily having to trade either one of them and potentially

677
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 5: just moving them to the bench. And so you got

678
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Speaker 5: the expiring contracts of Gabe Vincent and Maxi Kliba. That

679
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 5: combines about twenty two to twenty three million dollars. You

680
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: got Dalton connect who has one more year left at

681
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 5: at four million. Then you have one tradable first round pick,

682
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: one second round pick, and a few pick swaps. I

683
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 5: think I think the top three that are all ambitious,

684
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 5: and they could all range from being not available to

685
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: like semi available, depending on how things play out here

686
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 5: over the next one two we'll say two and a

687
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Speaker 5: half months. I think the best guy would be Herb

688
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: Jones in New Orleans, and looking at New Orleans two

689
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: and twelve, they're going nowhere now, they don't control they're

690
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: on their own pick because of the Derek Queen trade

691
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: and one of the worst recent trades in then yeah, right,

692
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: that was an insane trade. But Herb Jones I think

693
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 5: would check basically every box of what the Lakers would

694
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: need from that fifth guy. He's a little bit of

695
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: a shaky shooter, but he is having a good shooting season,

696
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: and he's got some injury concerns, but I really like him. Then,

697
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: to a lesser degree, Andrew Wiggins or Dylan Brooks are

698
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 5: two guys.

699
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 2: Oh hell no, Dylan Boks.

700
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Speaker 3: I'm not kiving Brooks is averaging twenty points a game

701
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: this year. It's a hot start. It's unsustainable.

702
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: But like, I think both of those guys are defensive

703
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: upgrades over Rui and I think Wiggins are just better

704
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball than Ruy.

705
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: Brooks is not the shooter that Ruy is, but he is.

706
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're similar levels of offensive players but

707
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: better defenders.

708
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Speaker 2: So you'd have to give up the one for Herb Jones, right.

709
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I think you'd potentially have to give up the

710
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 5: one for all those guys. I'm less sold on Wiggins

711
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 5: and Brooks because of that potential cost, but Herb Jones,

712
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: I would do it in the heart, like I'm giving

713
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Speaker 5: up I'm giving up Ruey in the first if you

714
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: could swing Herb Jones, like, I think that's a no brainer.

715
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they might actually do that.

716
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: They have nothing on that roster, and they got to

717
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: move Zion here pretty soon, right that.

718
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think if if I'm in New Orleans,

719
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: the you know, on the flip side of this, I'm

720
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Speaker 5: looking to.

721
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Speaker 4: Move Zion or.

722
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: Murphy probably has a lot of value or do they keep.

723
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: Or Jordan Poole.

724
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: I think Murray or excuse me, Murphy is someone that

725
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: I would want to keep. I mean, to be honest,

726
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: I'd want to keep Herb Jones too. I'd probably look

727
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 5: toward the future of Fears. I really like Jeremiah Fears,

728
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 5: Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, and Derek Queen, and like that

729
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 5: quartet would be the four guys.

730
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: That want to keep.

731
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Speaker 5: Then everyone else is available for the right price. But

732
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Speaker 5: I mean, there was a report of the summer that

733
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: they were looking for one to two good young prospects

734
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: and two picks for Trey Murphy and that's the price.

735
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: The Lakers are not in the mix for that, And

736
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 5: like I you know, I don't know how many teams

737
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 5: are going.

738
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 4: To be in the mix.

739
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: For me.

740
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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

741
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at the standings now, and this is

742
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: why this at this point differential so inflated. There's some

743
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: real dog shit teams bro the next two and twelve,

744
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: Washington one in twelve, Pacers one and thirteen, Pells.

745
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: Two and twelve, Like the bottom is really bad.

746
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: At the bottom of the league is horrible.

747
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: Like the bottom six to seven teams right now, are

748
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: to your point.

749
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: I now I wonder if they start tanking.

750
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: Not tanking, but like, hey, let's play our young guys

751
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 3: starting now, because the drafts coming up is really sick.

752
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: For like the top five guys are going to be

753
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: really good. I'll just run through a couple guys. Is

754
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: there any world where Jaron Jackson lands in the lap

755
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: of the Lakers or do the Grizzlies keep him and

756
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: build and try to dump Moran?

757
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: I think they try to dump Morant before moving on from.

758
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: Do you think there's any takers from Morent anywhere? I

759
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: also think with Jackson, I don't think. I think the

760
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: Lakers probably have to include Reeves in that. Oh that's

761
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: a whole discussion, right, I mean you're not You're not

762
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: getting Jaron Jackson for Ruye and a first round pick.

763
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's anywhere close to like you'll

764
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: get more if you.

765
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: Haven't smart and connect.

766
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: No.

767
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Speaker 4: I So I mean there's a like I would like

768
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: him longer term.

769
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 5: With Luca, I think he's obviously a defensive player of

770
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: the Year or former defensivelayer years hurt though to the injuries,

771
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: and I would say the rebounding, the rebounding has been

772
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: a real issue with him where he's too op Like

773
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 5: rebounding and foul trouble are the two things where he's

774
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 5: constantly in foul trouble in games you don't want him

775
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 5: to be in.

776
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 4: And even go back.

777
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 5: To like Team USA with his stint there, like I

778
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: thought that really hurt that team. It was just his

779
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 5: inability to rebound, like for whatever reason.

780
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: And that's just a big.

781
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: Something like that.

782
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: He's huge, No, he's huge, He's just how are you

783
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: a great shot blocker but you can't get freaking rebounds.

784
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Speaker 3: The Mavericks I was saying there's no way the Maps

789
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: would do a deal with the Lakers after the Luca trade.

790
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: That being said, Nico Harrison's gone, I don't know if

791
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: does anyone on the Map.

792
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of Lakers like.

793
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: Hey, if they buy out Klay Thompson, he lands with

794
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: the Lakers, and I'm just like, it feels like a

795
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: long shot. He's he's struggling. But is there a world

796
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 3: where the you know, Derek Lively or Gafford somehow gets

797
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: to the Lakers.

798
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: I think it's unlikely.

799
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: I think there are three teams very unlikely to make

800
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: a trade with the Lakers, and that would be Boston,

801
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: the Clippers, and the Mavericks. Right like Boston and the Clippers.

802
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: It's just it's personal. It's they hate the Lakers. They

803
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: do not want to help the Lakers. With Dallas. It's like,

804
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: I don't know how you you can now. Actually, I

805
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: think if we want a galaxy brain this, we can

806
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: flip it and be like, maybe you win back some

807
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 5: maps fans by helping Luca win his first title.

808
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: Would be you a Dallas, we're.

809
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: Gonna we're gonna give Luca, you know Gafford in Washington

810
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: or Gafford and Christie or something and help propel the

811
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: Lakers to a title. You're like, hey, we did uh,

812
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: you know, we did your the prodigal sawn a favor here.

813
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: But he helped.

814
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 5: In all seriousness, I just don't see how Dallas can

815
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: turn around and do another trade with the Lakers.

816
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 4: Like it's I.

817
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: Think some fans would probably like welcome it and be

818
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: happy about it for Luca. Some fans would riot again

819
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: and be like, we can't continue helping La.

820
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

821
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes you look to the bad teams with owners. Kings

822
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: seem like Kings seem like they're already going young.

823
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: I listen.

824
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: I like Malik Monk, always have loved his game. Dennis

825
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: Shrewder seems like he could be readily available. I don't

826
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: know what he's got left in the tank. There's no

827
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: defense from that guy. And then, of course there's Zach Levine,

828
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: who I love dearly. I'm a huge fan of his work.

829
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: But are they gonna ask for the world for Zach Lavine.

830
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: I can't imagine they would, right, but Lakers probably can't

831
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: afford him.

832
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think that the contract is tough.

833
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: And then even looking at just already, I think the

834
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: biggest knock or concern with a Lebron Austin Luca Trio

835
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 5: is the defense. And then if you add in Zach

836
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: Levine to that, I think, now you're just praying that

837
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: you can outscore teams, which maybe you can with that

838
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 5: collection of talent, but like you do need to defend at.

839
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: A certain level.

840
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 5: The guy I like in Sacramento actually who who flies

841
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: under the radar a bit is Keon Ellis.

842
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Oh, they're not giving him the kid from Alabama.

843
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean if dul and connect in a second,

844
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: could I sell you on that or I mean I

845
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 5: would I like, if.

846
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: You're the kid.

847
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: The Kings do make some decisions where you're like, I

848
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: don't really know what the process is behind this, so

849
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 5: I think most I also think they're like, I mean,

850
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 5: we could go down the list of like Sacramento, Portland,

851
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: San Antonio. I think there are several teams that just

852
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 5: have not tended to trade with the Lakers or want

853
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 5: to support the Lakers' success, going back to like some

854
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: of the rivalries they had with those teams in late

855
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 5: nineties early two thousands, Like when was the last Lakers

856
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 5: Kings trade. I can't remember off of the top of

857
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: my head. I think a new era, come on, new era,

858
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 5: but we'll see. I mean, they control their picks, so

859
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: they might be a team that it makes more sense

860
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 5: to just tear it down to the studs and move

861
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 5: forward tanking. It's just Vivek has tended to try to

862
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: Like Vivek's at the poker table, he's trippling down, he's

863
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: quadrupling down, like he's trying to you know, spend his

864
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 5: way out of the situation rather than acknowledging like this

865
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: era ended the second you know, right after twenty twenty three,

866
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 5: they had the nice season, but Fox, yeah, they just

867
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: has not been the same since then.

868
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: Let me look up Kean els Ooh, he is on

869
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: it's the end of his contract.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna want to get paid. Oh so maybe there's

871
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Speaker 2: something there Dalton connect Inner two.

872
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, I mean I would do that if I'm

873
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: the Lakers. That might not be enough for a secondment.

874
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 5: The Lakers aren't in a tough spot because they only have

875
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: one second round pick in one shund pick, and like

876
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 5: go back to last season, they were able to keep

877
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: their first round pick and save it for the Luca trade,

878
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 5: but then give up three second round picks for dfs.

879
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 5: They don't have that same pick flexibility this year because

880
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 5: of just the current constraints. So they aren't a tricky

881
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 5: spot where it's almost like you either offer a second

882
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 5: which isn't the best you know, sweetener to a deal,

883
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 5: or you have to overpay and offer the first, which

884
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: obviously it's got to be a certain caliber player to

885
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: offer the first.

886
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: So there aren't a little bit of a tough spot

887
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: with the Assets.

888
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: By the way, you mentioned DFS. I totally forgot about him.

889
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: Remember how Laker Nation was so rattled when they lost him.

890
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 3: I just looked, he's on the rockets, right he is.

891
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: I gotta ask because he has to play the game, Like,

892
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: come on, that guy's old. All right, we'll wrap up

893
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: with this, Yovan. I'll just say the name and you

894
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: just tell me. You know your thoughts, Yannis.

895
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: I not right now.

896
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 5: Maybe that's an off season possibility because it doesn't Laker go.

897
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: Down if he gets to the offseason, because it takes

898
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: a lot of teams out of the mix.

899
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: If you're if you're Detroit and you're like.

900
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: Holy shit, we could win the East, we could go

901
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: to the NBA Finals. Let's go get yannest. Don't you

902
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: try it now?

903
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 4: So I were you talking specifically Lakers or just in general?

904
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: Well, I would thinking Lakers, but I would have because

905
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: I don't mean that's.

906
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: Going to require Austin Reeves right like that. There's no

907
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 5: way you're not getting honest without Austin Reeves. Lightning doesn't

908
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 5: strike twice for the I mean maybe it does. It's

909
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 5: the Lakers, but Max Christia and also, yeah, I mean

910
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 5: they're trading Ruy and gay Vince Like I mean, Bucks

911
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: fans would probably burn down Phizzerve for us.

912
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 3: Maybe Dicoe Harrison gets it, gets it, becomes a consultant

913
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: for the Bucks.

914
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 5: Now, the Lakers do get access to three there three

915
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 5: tradeable first shound picks on Draft night of twenty twenty six,

916
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 5: so there could be a draft day trade, not necessarily

917
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 5: for Yannis, but that could be when they potentially strike

918
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 5: a bigger move if they are looking to make a

919
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 5: bigger move, is they go from one tradeable pick to three,

920
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: So that could be where do you package in Austin

921
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: Reeves and three picks? Now, technically, because he's about to

922
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 5: be an impending free agent, it's.

923
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's tough with the.

924
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 5: Contract matching, so he probably would have to re sign.

925
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 5: Then you'd have to wait into the season when he's

926
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: on a bigger contract. So I'm skeptical the honest thing.

927
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: It sounds like he wants to go to New York

928
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: if he leaves at all. So I would put the

929
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 5: favorite for now him staying in Milwaukee, and then the second,

930
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: you know, clear favorite would be him going to New York.

931
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: Remember his his family moved to Greece. So going from

932
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: Milwaukee to New York and closer to Greece. From Milwaukee

933
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: to LA you're going further from Greece. So I think,

934
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: just from that perspective, like if he goes anywhere, I

935
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: think New York would make a lot of sense.

936
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: So what do you see a team like Detroit saying, hey, man,

937
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: we're going all in. We want the title this year.

938
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: We're going after Giannis. Does he have a no trade

939
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: cause I don't think so. No, sman, what if they

940
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: pony up four first round picks.

941
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 5: That can be I mean, they're team I actually really

942
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 5: like for Laurie marketing in Utah, Like he's just toiling

943
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 5: away there.

944
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 4: He's having a career year. Utah is punching above their weight.

945
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 5: As we saw in that first half against the Lakers

946
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 5: that they're five and nine.

947
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 4: I thought they were going to be the worst team

948
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 4: in the West.

949
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 5: They're clearly not that they're at you know, at worst,

950
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: they're the third worst, but but they might even be

951
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: fourth or fifth worst. And he's having an all star

952
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: caliber year. And if you like, but he's he's ever

953
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 5: played in a playoff game. That's the crazy thing with

954
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: Laurie is like, for as good as he's been, and

955
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: you know he's broken out for you know, been all

956
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: star level guy for for multiple years, but he's never

957
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: played in a playoff game. And that's not his fault,

958
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 5: but there's obviously a limitation to him being your best player.

959
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: But if you get him in Detroit where caid for

960
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 5: for my money, is now playing like I think he's

961
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 5: a back end MVP candidate where he like he told

962
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 5: me he's fourth or fifth on your ballot. I don't

963
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 5: think that's crazy. And then Jalen Duran is looking like

964
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 5: an All Star. They're on an eleven game win streak,

965
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: number one in the East. You had Laurie to depending

966
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 5: on the price. That's a team that I think could

967
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: be potentially the favorites in the East. And then now

968
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: you're playing Okay, see you're Denver or whoever in the finals,

969
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 5: like you're going to be the underdog. But if you

970
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 5: could be, you know, win the conference, that's obviously a

971
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 5: successful season. So I think Detroit is a player where

972
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: if I'm them, I'm I'm trying to keep I mean,

973
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 5: I'm keeping Kid and I'm keeping Duran and I'm fighting

974
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: hard to keep Osar Thompson and everybody else is tradable,

975
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 5: all the picks, all the players, and then see like

976
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: who you could get. But yeah, if you had Anymos

977
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 5: or Laurie to that, I would trade him like he'd

978
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 5: be fourth on the list for me, right, I'd fight

979
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: to keep those three.

980
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 3: And then yeah, yeah, wow, all right, good stuff. Jovan

981
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: Buja follow him on social media. He's at all the

982
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: good Laker games. Are you going to the Christmas Day game?

983
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: I'm fifty to fifty right now because fun fact, Christmas

984
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 5: is my wife's birthday. Oh so now, before I had

985
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: the excuse working for the athletic I had to be

986
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: there for work. Now it's a little bit less justifiable.

987
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 5: So I'm fifty to fifty. I will be watching it

988
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: and I will be going live. Whether I will be

989
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: there is tbd right now.

990
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for understood, understand all right, buddy, I have

991
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: a good one.

992
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: Man, appreciate it. Man. Thanks