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Speaker 1: How are you, Buck? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. What was going on?

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Speaker 1: And I didn't mean to wake I'm sorry and that loud.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Get a little excited when I see you because I

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Speaker 2: can't hold this back any longer. Did you see that

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Speaker 2: behind the back pass yesterday by Patrick Mahomes? Did you

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Speaker 2: see that? Where did he get that out of his arsenal?

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Speaker 2: Where did that come from?

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Speaker 4: I think he's on those kinds of things before, and

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Speaker 4: in fact they're in clips of him in practice doing

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Speaker 4: that on the same play, shovel passed on it behind

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Speaker 4: his back. So I'm surprised to see him do it

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Speaker 4: in game action, but it was a great player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't practice that. I mean just kind

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Speaker 2: of like a fooling around thing or a desperation pass

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Speaker 2: to Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: How does that work? Really? You don't work on that

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Speaker 1: in practice.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think you do. I think they do

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Speaker 3: if they messing around with it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Andy ree gives those guys a

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Speaker 4: lot of flexibility and creativity and and stuff, and so

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Speaker 4: I think that's just one.

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Speaker 3: Where Pat Mahomes just goes for it, you know.

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Speaker 4: And he said wasn't predetermined, premeditated. He just kind of

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Speaker 4: kind of felt it and did it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I hear about the Patrick Mahomes deal all the time,

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Speaker 2: and the Kansas City Chiefs may be the first team

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Speaker 2: to go for three in a row with the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I have a He's great, There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: He's in a great situation. He's got a great coach,

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Speaker 2: and he's got some great people on his team with him.

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Speaker 2: But when I hear people tell me he's the greatest

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Speaker 2: quarterback of all time, I got to take a deep breath,

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Speaker 2: scratch my head. What's your take on that? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is he the greatest of all time? I mean the

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Speaker 2: greatest results maybe of all time? If he has three

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Speaker 2: super Bowls in a row and he wins those, but

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Speaker 2: the greatest of all time, that's tough. That's a tough

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Speaker 2: thing to swallow for me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you look at where he is

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Speaker 4: you would have to say he's trending towards tracking towards

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Speaker 4: being the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 3: And if it comes down to a.

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Speaker 4: Point where he evens tom Brady's seven super Bowl rings

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Speaker 4: in those things, I think he certainly gets to not

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Speaker 4: because many would view him as more talented and I

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Speaker 4: would say more out of worldly when it comes to

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Speaker 4: his talent than tom Brady, And so that would give

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Speaker 4: him a nod.

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Speaker 3: But winning is hard.

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Speaker 4: But if he's able to win three in a row

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Speaker 4: to go with the MVPs as he's always already won

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Speaker 4: the level of success they've already had early in his career,

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Speaker 4: it'd be hard to move him from that number one spot.

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Speaker 2: I guess people judging what they do when they judge

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Speaker 2: who's the greatest of all time, it's all about championships.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't even look at the stats. It's

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Speaker 2: all about championships. I mean, look, it's a shame that

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, who's won two MVPs, only won Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think he's a great quarterback. I really do.

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Speaker 2: And I think one of the reasons he probably went

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he zooms up the list

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't think he zooms up the list.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think there's a path for him to

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Speaker 4: there's been too many playoff failures, too many shortcomings from

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Speaker 3: The greatest of all time.

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Speaker 4: One super Bowl only in Green Bay, one super Bowl

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Speaker 4: Jets for Super Bowl, but I don't think that's enough

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Speaker 4: to put him on that mount Rushmore quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 4: He certainly will be an all time great. But when

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Speaker 4: you talk about the goat conversation, I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 4: about Joe Montana.

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Speaker 3: You talking about Tom.

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Speaker 4: Brady and Patrick Mahomes like that's that's it. There's no

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Speaker 4: one else that is even close to being in those categories.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: And here's where I have a problem. When they talk

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Speaker 2: about the greatest of all time. I mean, Eli Manning

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Speaker 2: won two super Bowls. I would never consider him even

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Speaker 2: in the top ten of all time.

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Speaker 1: Really, it's a good quarterback on a great team and

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Speaker 1: they want two super Bowls?

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Speaker 2: Is he the greatest of all time? Is he a

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Speaker 2: top ten all time quarterback? I don't think so. But

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Speaker 2: he's got two super Bowl rings. You got one more

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Speaker 2: ring than his brother Peyton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: No, Well wait, Manne Peyton had to like the second one.

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Speaker 4: Is he has won in Denver, won in Indie. But

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Speaker 4: that's second one was more on the defense than him.

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Speaker 3: But you are right.

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Speaker 4: It is an interesting conversation when you throw into winning.

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Speaker 4: But when you throw into winning, a lot of you

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Speaker 4: have to remember why did they win?

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Speaker 3: Did the team win?

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Speaker 4: Because of you or in spite of you, And of

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Speaker 4: the three that we talked about being the ghost, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady, and Patrick Mahomes, it's very clear that the

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Speaker 4: team won because of them and their contributions, and they

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Speaker 4: also had a level of regular season success that you

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Speaker 4: couldn't call their playoff success fluky. I think with Eli

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Speaker 4: Manning you could talk about their playoff things being fluky.

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Speaker 3: Where a they get high, they can win it. But

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Speaker 3: there are these long glows in his career.

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Speaker 4: Where they didn't go to the playoffs, they didn't do

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Speaker 4: anything of significance. To me, that separates the good from

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Speaker 4: the elites. The elites are always in the conversation. Kansas

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Speaker 4: City has always been in the conversation. Seven or eight

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Speaker 4: straight division titles, always in the AFC Championship game since

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Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes has kind of been there, like just always

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Speaker 3: And if they get a three peat after.

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Speaker 4: Losing Tybreek Hill, I just think it's another feather in

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Speaker 2: You always make too much sense. That's why I love

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Speaker 2: talking football with you because he always set me straight.

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Speaker 2: You're really do and I said, it's panic time coming

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Speaker 2: into this segment, and we talk about quarterbacks. Right now,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings losing their rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy for the season.

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Speaker 1: He said he has a miniscus tear in his right knee.

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Speaker 2: That was funny because during the game and after that

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Speaker 2: ball game, the announcers basically said he's got some pain

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Speaker 2: in his knee. They didn't find that he had a

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Speaker 2: miniscus tear until Monday of the following Monday, after the game,

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Speaker 2: like forty eight hours later. I mean, it was crazy

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Speaker 2: to me. So now Sam Donald's the number three pick

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. He's going to be the starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings. And here's the deal my take.

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Speaker 2: As soon as I heard that he was out for

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Speaker 2: why are they having preseason games? You look at the games,

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Speaker 2: no one plays. The regulars never play. I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I mean, every starter does not play, except Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: he plays. I don't know why they play and he

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Speaker 2: than that, there is no rhyme or reason to me

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Speaker 2: why these guys. He started playing the preseason. Explain that

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Speaker 2: to me, did you play in the preseason when you played?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have.

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Speaker 4: To get ready to play for the regular season, like

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Speaker 4: the preseason is that and you can't run around scare

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Speaker 4: to play your guys. One of the reasons why the

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Speaker 4: They're battle tested, they're hard, and they're ready to go when.

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Speaker 3: The regular season kicks off.

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Speaker 4: For those teams that don't play, they don't have a

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Speaker 4: prior to last year, EVERYFC Championship game to the Kansaity

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Speaker 4: like Pat Mahomes did not played any road playoff games

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Speaker 4: they can play half the first quarter, the second preseason

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Speaker 3: There a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But his team is ready to go because they play,

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Speaker 4: They have a hard training camp, and he knows how

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Speaker 2: You make a lot of sense, and everything you say

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Speaker 2: about football, I agree because you always correct and I

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Speaker 2: believe that. So if that's the case, and if they

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Speaker 2: look at the model of the Kansas City Chiefs, why

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Speaker 2: don't others follow suits? Why don't the other coaches do that?

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Speaker 2: Why don't other coaches play their regulars? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: want to you know who played yesterday? Daniel Jones, And

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Speaker 2: to be honest, he's probably sorry he did play because

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Speaker 2: he threw two interceptions for the Giants. He was terrible

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Speaker 2: coming off the acl really he really was. The Giants

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Speaker 2: are in a bad way this year. But other than that,

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Speaker 2: why aren't these guys playing? If it works for Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: why weren't the other teams.

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Speaker 4: Because you have an other faction of folks that are

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Speaker 4: following the Sean McVay model. Sean McVay didn't play his

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Speaker 4: a few years back. And what happens is whoever's the

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Speaker 4: Others like Andy Reid, who's a little more old school,

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Speaker 4: they believe in the traditional way of getting your team.

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Speaker 3: Ready to play.

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Speaker 4: That is long, hard practices, pads on physical practices to

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Speaker 2: The name is Connor Stallions. You remember this guy. He's

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Speaker 2: that analyst on the University of Michigan football staff, demand

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Speaker 2: behind the sign stealing operations at Michigan. This guy is

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Speaker 2: now the new defensive coordinator at Muntford High School in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: How why does the Board of Education check the background?

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Speaker 2: How did this guy get this job? Help me out here?

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Speaker 2: When I heard about this, I went crazy. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: is it because he's winning in Michigan. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: not down on the guy. Everybody should get a second

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Speaker 2: chance in life. But wasn't there someone bett to get

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Speaker 2: than this guy? I think this is the high school

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Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy went to.

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Speaker 4: Also, yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 4: Stallions I don't know the background.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the connection. I don't know the head

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Speaker 3: coach who brought him in.

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Speaker 4: And if there was a bond between Stallions and that

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Speaker 4: is it his old high school, any of those things,

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Speaker 4: it would have seem that if you're an ad who's

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Speaker 4: kind of vetting out the process, it may not be

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Speaker 4: the situation that you want. The other thing that we

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Speaker 4: don't know is how Knic Stallions explained himself, you know,

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Speaker 4: when it came to the NCAA investigation and all the

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Speaker 4: things that took place at Michigan.

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Speaker 3: What we don't really know is his side of it.

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Speaker 4: And if they took his side, if they believed this side,

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Speaker 4: if they were taking away and see approach to see

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Speaker 4: what happened cond of Stallions, then you get improved. Look

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Speaker 4: at some point, you know, if he was involved in it,

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Speaker 4: then you have the punishment. Then you have to have

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to redeem yourself. And if this is his

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Speaker 4: redemption opportunity, then it's on him to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: But I'll never knock somebody for giving him a second chance.

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Speaker 4: It just seems like.

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Speaker 3: You would do a little more vetting before you make

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Speaker 3: that official.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's all about who you know in life.

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Speaker 1: That's basically what it is. Now.

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Speaker 2: The Mumford High School Mustangs, they have not had a

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Speaker 2: winning season since twenty nineteen, all right, so.

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Speaker 1: I get that now.

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Speaker 2: The head coach, his name is William McMichael, and he

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Speaker 2: said that obviously Stallions might be the most hated man

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Speaker 2: in college football.

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Speaker 1: But he said, the coaches and the kids at Momford

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Speaker 1: High School love him. You know, I get it.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, kind of smoothing the pavement over there, if

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Speaker 2: you will. But to me to hire this guy, it's crazy,

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Speaker 2: he says. McMichael said that the Mumford players call their

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Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Five star Stallions. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, to me, as a defensive coordinator in college,

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Speaker 2: you would think that maybe somebody would have been better

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Speaker 2: suited to coach high school kids number one, and maybe

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Speaker 2: have a better resume than this guy. I just it

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Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense. The optics aren't good, that's

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Speaker 2: for sure. Because as soon as this team starts winning,

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Speaker 2: because they have it once is twenty nineteen, they're going

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Speaker 2: to say they won because they cheated. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: He may be a great coach and a great guy,

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Speaker 2: but it just doesn't look good. I think he should

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Speaker 2: have gone on in the bushes for a couple of

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Speaker 2: years and come back out again.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about that man.

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Speaker 4: At some point, we have to have opportunities to bounce

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Speaker 4: back from whatever mistakes that we make in life. And

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Speaker 4: if we're saying that he has to go away forever

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Speaker 4: because of a mistake that he may or may not

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Speaker 4: have been.

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Speaker 3: Involved in, I just think that's harsh.

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Speaker 4: I would like to think that he would get an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to show people that he can do good stuff,

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Speaker 4: that they can impact the community.

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Speaker 3: He can be good with young people.

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Speaker 4: He can maybe tell his story to young people to

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Speaker 4: inspire them not to do some of the mistakes that

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Speaker 4: he is not commit, some of the mistakes that he's

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Speaker 4: made along the way.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's positives.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone has something that they can bring and provide,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully he'll take advantage of the situation to be

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Speaker 4: a positive influence on that community.

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Speaker 2: Here's my question to you, and I know you'll have

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Speaker 2: the answer because you're real smart. Okay, Recently, Tom Brenneman

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Speaker 2: an announcer got a job back. He was doing Fox

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Speaker 2: football on TV. He was doing Cincinnati Reds baseball on TV,

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Speaker 2: and he said a homophobic slur about four years ago.

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Speaker 2: And as soon as he said that on an open

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Speaker 2: mic and didn't though the mike was open, whatever it was,

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Speaker 2: he lost his job. He lost his job in Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: with the Cincinnati Reds. His father's a Hall of Fame broadcast.

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Speaker 2: He was he retired Marty Brenneman, and he lost his

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Speaker 2: job at Fox. That cut him loose. About a week

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Speaker 2: or two ago, the acc hired him to do football

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Speaker 2: and basketball.

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Speaker 1: He had to wait four years.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what's worse, allegedly cheating or that

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Speaker 2: claimed that he cheated on stealing signs at michiganfensive coordina

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Speaker 2: their stallions, or Tom Brenneman who had a slip of

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Speaker 2: the tongue and he had to wait four years to

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Speaker 2: finally get a chance to come back. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's worse cheating or saying something stupid. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, But he had to wait four years job.

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Speaker 3: He did have to wait four years.

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Speaker 4: I would say that the directory slur would be more

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Speaker 4: egregious than if he was signed stealing or doing something

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Speaker 4: like that, I would just say that regardless of whether

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Speaker 4: it was an open mic or whatever, I think more

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Speaker 4: people are going to see that as a very egregious

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Speaker 4: violation of just like disrespect and you know, like a.

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Speaker 3: Very distasteful gesture.

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Speaker 4: As it comes to Condi Stallions, it's like Conna Stallion's

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Speaker 4: thing is bad, and he certainly deserves to be punished

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Speaker 4: for whatever he did with his transgressions. But in both

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Speaker 4: cases I would say that if they apologize, if they

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Speaker 4: admit whatever wrong when they did that, at some point

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Speaker 4: people would give people an opportunity to be redeemed, to

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Speaker 4: have a chance to bounce back. That it's not something

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Speaker 4: that around you like an albatross for the rest of

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Speaker 4: your life. That you can find a way to make good.

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Speaker 4: And so like Tom Brenneman finally had an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: get back into broadcasting world, Connor Standings deserves an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to coach at some point. Now it may be soon

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Speaker 4: because it's high school, but it's high school, and high

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Speaker 4: school's a different level than college, and they're more high school,

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Speaker 4: they're more young people. There's maybe a shortage of educators

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Speaker 4: in those things, they created an opportunity before Tom Brenneman

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Speaker 4: would have gotten the opportunity to be a broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Well said, as always, mister Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that he is Bucket Brooks, I may Deferman

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Speaker 2: and we are Fox Sports suddenly a Fox Sports ready

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Speaker 2: now coming up next on Fox Live for the Tyraq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. If quarterback ranks first, then this must

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Speaker 2: be second, and that's next. But a first, I mean

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Speaker 2: it was always first, Kevin Wyert with your sports.

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Speaker 6: Well, hopefully sometimes at least, but in the Major League

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Speaker 6: Baseball pennant races, the Dodgers at least have been in

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Speaker 6: first for basically the entire season. They've been in firm command.

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Speaker 6: But uh, the Padres closing in. The Rodgers lead now

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Speaker 6: just two games after lafl the Cardinals five to two,

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Speaker 6: while the Padres took advantage by beating the Rockies eight three,

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Speaker 6: the top spot in the NL West. The Diamondbacks red

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Speaker 6: didn't get the win on Saturday, losing to the Ray

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Speaker 6: six to one, so Arizona three games back of LA

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Speaker 6: in the NL West. As for that wildcard, though the

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Speaker 6: Diamondbacks and Padres do hold the top two spots, the

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Speaker 6: that final wildcard position. In the American League Central, the

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Speaker 6: Guardians lead is now just two games. They lost to

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Speaker 6: the Brewers a two to one in the Twins, picking

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Speaker 6: to beat the Rangers five to two, So again Cleveland

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Speaker 6: ahead of Minnesota by two games. In the AL Central.

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Speaker 6: As for that American League wildcard, it is the Royals

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Speaker 6: holding that final spot, two and a half games ahead

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Speaker 6: of the Red Sox. The Twins that second wildcard. The

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Speaker 6: in the AL least, what they are the number one

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Speaker 6: lose on Saturday, so the Yankees blanked by the Detroit

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Speaker 6: Tigers four nothing, the Bronx Bombers only mustering four hits

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Speaker 6: for the game. The Orioles do loose to the Red

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Speaker 6: Sox five to one. In the AL West, it was

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Speaker 6: the Mariners division to lose. It seemed like for much

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Speaker 6: two defeat to the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Astros widening their

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Speaker 6: lead in the division. He beat the White Sox six

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Speaker 6: to one, so Houston's lead now sits at four games.

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Speaker 6: NFL preseason, the Bears beat the Bengals twenty seven to

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Speaker 6: three as Caleb Williams gets his first preseason touchdown, a

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Speaker 6: seven yard touchdown run. He was six to thirteen for

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Speaker 6: seventy five yards passing on the day. Not good quarterback

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Speaker 6: play though for the Pittsburgh Steelers as they lose to

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Speaker 6: the Bills nine to three, But justin Fields and Russell

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Speaker 6: he played for the Giants in their preseason matchup for

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, kef seen it?

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Speaker 2: Now, all right, If anybody needs a salary bump, it's

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Speaker 2: this spot and that's coming right up.

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Speaker 1: He's bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I me Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sonny of

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We got bucket books. When asked bucking

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Speaker 2: about seven eight minutes from now. Heybody is in my

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Speaker 2: imagination although people are just not talking baseball. I mean,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm crazy. I heard the scores that Kevin gave

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Speaker 2: and the races are really tightening up. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's all football, It's all preseason football, but no one's

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Speaker 2: talking to the pennant races. Baseball's kind of taking a

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Speaker 2: second scene, am am?

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Speaker 1: I nuts? Or is that true? That's what I feel.

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Speaker 4: I would say it's true, And as a devoted Dodgers fan,

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Speaker 4: I would say that this certainly has been the same

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Speaker 4: buzz in baseball that are in other sports. And I

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Speaker 4: will also acknowledge that football is king and doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: what football does. Whenever Football drops something, everyone is going

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Speaker 4: to be all over it. Preseason games, hard Knocks, episodes,

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Speaker 4: any and everything related to football commands more attention.

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Speaker 3: That's why it's America's favorite sport.

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Speaker 4: It dominates the competition, it dominates the airwaves and all

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Speaker 4: the things that we talk about.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what has happened to baseball.

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Speaker 4: I grew up loving baseball, but football is, without a

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Speaker 4: doubt the number one sport in the country.

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Speaker 1: Well that's good. Are you second this? So now I

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Speaker 1: know I'm not crazy.

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Speaker 2: I talk a little football right now because you know,

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Speaker 2: following the Cincinnati Bengals is my regional team, my local team.

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Speaker 2: The attackle the offensive tackle of Deontae Smith. He's going

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Speaker 2: the tend injury. That offensive line looks a little shaky

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Speaker 2: right now.

659
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Speaker 1: And I worry for Joe Burrow.

660
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Speaker 2: Murrius Mims, their first round draft pick out of Clemson,

661
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Speaker 2: I believe out of Georgia has a strained pictorial and

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Speaker 2: Trent Brown has some backtit in this that was just

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Speaker 2: the other day.

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Speaker 1: So what does that do for Joe Borough?

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Speaker 2: You know, what does it do for a confidence factor

666
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Speaker 2: of a quarterback? I mean, he knows that he's only

667
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Speaker 2: really and truly as good as the offensive line gets

668
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Speaker 2: in protection. Right, That's basically is so the question I

669
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Speaker 2: have how important is the old line for a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Not only the talent, but the cohesiveness.

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Speaker 2: And I said, coming into this segment, if quarterback is

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Speaker 2: number one, and basically you know, we know that if

673
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Speaker 2: you don't have a quarterback, you're not going to win.

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Speaker 2: Then the number two's got to be the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: And I remember reading this book the late Paul Brown,

676
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Speaker 2: the founder, the founder of the Cincinnati Bengals. The first

677
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Speaker 2: draft pick ever ever by the Cincinnati Bengals in nineteen

678
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Speaker 2: sixty eight was an offensive lineman. It was a center,

679
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Speaker 2: Bob Johnson. He was smart enough to realize that what's

680
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Speaker 2: upfront that counts. And I don't think the offensive lineman

681
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Speaker 2: get the recognition to pay what they deserve. Maybe I'm wrong,

682
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Speaker 2: but I think that the offensive line is probably the

683
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Speaker 2: second most important position on the ball club.

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Speaker 4: I think some would say you're I mean, look at

685
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Speaker 4: some would say that it starts and ends in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: But yes, you're right.

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Speaker 4: If we're talking about positioning, if you're talking about building

688
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Speaker 4: a championship team, you have to have a quarterback to

689
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Speaker 4: be able to win at the highest level, particularly in

690
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Speaker 4: Pro football. But outside of that, it's a line of

691
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Speaker 4: scrimmage league. Offensive and defensive lines are paramount. A lot

692
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Speaker 4: of times as a team builder, you think about the

693
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Speaker 4: passing game and everything has to be built around the

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Speaker 4: passing game.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about the piece right, it's the passer.

696
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Speaker 4: It's the pass protectors, it's to pass rushers, and then

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Speaker 4: it's the playmakers, which are typically you wide receivers on offense,

698
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Speaker 4: and then on defense, it's a second level player linebacker

699
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Speaker 4: that can blitz, rush and cover. There's a cornerback that

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Speaker 4: can lock up or safety. But it is built around

701
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Speaker 4: those things. And if you don't have enough of those

702
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Speaker 4: guys in the front line, you just can't do anything.

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Speaker 4: You have to be able to control the line of

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Speaker 4: scrimmage and pass protection. You got to be able to

705
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Speaker 4: run the football effectively to make life easy for the

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Speaker 4: most important piece of the puzzle, which is the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy, you know. I look at the Cincinnati

708
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Speaker 2: Bengals right now. There are offensive line right now is

709
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Speaker 2: in shambles.

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Speaker 1: It really is. So what is that You've been on teams?

711
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what it's like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen quarterbacks and I'm sure the mumble.

713
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Speaker 2: They'll say something to somebody like how can I do

714
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Speaker 2: my job? I have no protection? Have you seen the

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Speaker 2: quarterback cry and wine and say things like that, not

716
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Speaker 2: you know, during practice or you know, mouthing off to

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Speaker 2: a coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean take us, you know, take us behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes in the locker room, you played the game.

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Speaker 2: What is it like when a quarterback knows he doesn't

721
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Speaker 2: have much protection when he's going to get sacked maybe

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Speaker 2: forty fifty sixty times a season.

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Speaker 4: But one thing the quarterback can do is you can't

724
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Speaker 4: wine and complain, Like no one wants a winer and

725
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Speaker 4: complainer at quarterback. Part of the position is not only

726
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Speaker 4: your arm talent, but it's your toughness. How tough is

727
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Speaker 4: the quarterback mentally and physically, Because the great quarterbacks have

728
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Speaker 4: a level of toughness where they can withstand the pounding

729
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Speaker 4: and it doesn't impact the way that they play. But

730
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Speaker 4: you don't want your quarterback to get hit. And so

731
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Speaker 4: it's that fine line. If a quarterback is getting hit,

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Speaker 4: that's problematic. Something that you have to do from a

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Speaker 4: protection standpoint to make sure you have the pieces around him,

734
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Speaker 4: or you have to tweak how you go about approaching

735
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Speaker 4: the defense. Does the ball need to come out you

736
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Speaker 4: become more of a quick rhythm passing game. Do you

737
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Speaker 4: rely on screens and those things to slow down and

738
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Speaker 4: thwart the pass rush? What can you do when it

739
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Speaker 4: comes to allowing the quarterback to kind of handle some

740
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Speaker 4: of those things. Joe Burrow in particular likes he wants

741
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Speaker 4: all five receivers out in the route, so he doesn't

742
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Speaker 4: want you to hold people in.

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Speaker 3: He'll rather you spread it out.

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Speaker 4: Hey, let's go empty and let me see where the

745
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Speaker 4: rush is coming from, and then I'll find a way

746
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Speaker 4: to beat it.

747
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Speaker 3: With quick routes and those things like he did at LSU.

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Speaker 3: Just depends on the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But your quarterback can't wind to complain because that certainly

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Speaker 4: doesn't endear him to his teammates.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the only staple right now, the only I

752
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Speaker 2: guess rock on that offensive line is Orlando Brown. And

753
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Speaker 2: to me, I thought that guy was nuts from leaving

754
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Speaker 2: Kansas City anyway. I guess money's more important than winning

755
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Speaker 2: for him, right, I mean, is that the reason why

756
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Speaker 2: would he leave Kansas City to come to Cincinnati? I mean,

757
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Speaker 2: he had something really good over there. I mean, I

758
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Speaker 2: know money is probably the reason, but come on, he

759
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Speaker 2: got something good over.

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Speaker 3: There a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But like, I mean, having the good stuff over in

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Speaker 4: Kansas City is great, But if you're talking about significant

763
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Speaker 4: increase in conversation, it's his job to do that, Like

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Speaker 4: I understand, like everyone wants people to sacrifice with championships

765
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: in those things, but look, it's a job.

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Speaker 3: And if he's going to be paid.

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Speaker 4: Significantly more money in Cincinnati than Kansas City, he can't

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Speaker 4: turn that down, particularly if he's already won a championship

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Speaker 4: or two.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you follow the money, like that's what people do.

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Speaker 4: It's no different than CEOs and executives in the business world,

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Speaker 4: no different than college coaches chasing every dollar when they

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Speaker 4: leave one situation to a next. I mean, at some

774
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Speaker 4: point it becomes a family decision as opposed to a

775
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Speaker 4: decision as chasing legacy.

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Speaker 2: All right, and last, but not least, let me run

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Speaker 2: this by because Jamar Chase has not yet played. I mean,

778
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Speaker 2: he did make the trip to Chicago, I get that,

779
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Speaker 2: but he's not playing holding out. He wants more money

780
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Speaker 2: and he's got two more years there on the contract,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see what happens over there. But to me,

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Speaker 2: that's like a non story in Cincinnati, and it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: You know, the story of brendan Auuk with the forty

784
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Speaker 2: nine ers is like a national story that he wants

785
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Speaker 2: more money, he's holding out, But in Cincinnati, Jamar Chase

786
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Speaker 2: is like hohold home. It's not a big whoop, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get it. I don't understand. What

788
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Speaker 2: if this was in New York City on a major

789
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: market Chicago, New York, or LA like San Francisco, I mean,

790
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Speaker 2: be all over the place. But in Cincinnati it's like

791
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Speaker 2: buried And when the media asks Zach Taylor what's going on,

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Speaker 2: We're working on a plan.

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Speaker 1: That's the end.

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Speaker 2: We're working on a plan. I don't get it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: here's a guy, Jamar Chase, who sat out his junior

796
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Speaker 2: year at LSU. He may sit out. I mean, I mean,

797
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Speaker 2: how good could this team be? How good could Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow be without Jamar Chase. That's the key right there.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a big key. But they got time

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Speaker 3: to do it.

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Speaker 4: And if they gave him the opportunity to hold in,

802
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: then he's gonna hold in a lot of it is

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Speaker 4: the approach to the teams. You can either make people

804
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: sit out, hold out and find them, or you're gonna

805
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: allow them to do what they're doing right now. You

806
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: never get really a solid resolution. The Bengals have elected

807
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: to let him hold in, so it's something the Bengals

808
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: more so than Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: There you go, all right, he's Bucky Brooks. He's holding

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Speaker 2: in right now. I'm Andy Ferman with Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio. And of course his name is Bucky,

812
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 2: but we call him mister answer Man. Why of course

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Speaker 2: as Bucky. It's freaking next.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen no, Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: As Bucky right around the corner' about eleven minutes now

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Speaker 2: before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman, and we're live from

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Speaker 2: the ti Raq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: But right now it's time for It's Bucky. It's the way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's a crazy one bugging on a run by Okay,

822
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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins linebacker Jalen Phillips. He says he leaves his

823
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: pilates class with the glow and quote I read this article.

824
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: It says, I voluntarily go to shake like a leaf

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Speaker 2: and hold myself in these extremely challenging, tough positions and

826
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Speaker 2: makes your body stronger, but also makes your mind, in

827
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Speaker 2: soul and spirit stronger. I really leave pilates with a glow.

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Speaker 1: Why are so many NFL players like Phillips are turning

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Speaker 1: to pilates and what is it basically?

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Speaker 4: So I am a yogi, so I'm a devoted yoga practitioner.

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Speaker 4: So I believe in all of those things. Pilates, yoga.

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00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: They not only help you with your physical like in

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00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: terms of stretching, building your core and those things, but

834
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Speaker 4: mentally because those postures are so challenging that you have

835
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: to turn inward to be able to push through it.

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 4: So it becomes about breath control, It comes about mental

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Speaker 4: discipline and focus. And for players who are always looking

838
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 4: for that competitive advantage, that edge, it provides you with

839
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Speaker 4: skills that translate to pressure situations in game, in life.

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Speaker 3: And so I can understand why.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Phillips feels that way because when you're competing against yourself,

842
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 4: because that's the only competition when you're in lades or yoga,

843
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: is can I do more than I did the previous day?

844
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Speaker 4: It does give you kind of this confidence that you

845
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: can uncle the world. So I understand why it leaves

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Speaker 4: with a glow.

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Speaker 1: I knew you'd have the answer. I knew it, Okay.

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00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: Indianapolis, the city of Indianapolis hosts the Big Ten College

849
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: football Playoffs. They've hosted the Final Four and Basketball College

850
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: and next year they go the Wholds to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five WNBA All Star Game. So Bucket Brooks one of

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00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: the best sports cities in America.

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Speaker 3: M best sports cities in America.

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Speaker 4: I think Naptown is certainly when Indianapolis is unique in

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00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: terms of being in the Midwest. I would say Chicago

856
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: is a great sports town. Anyone who's taken in a

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00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: Cubs game or going to a Bears game or Bulls game.

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Speaker 3: You're like that. You can't leave New York out of it.

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00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: Yankees match Giants jests, even though that ventures into Jersey

860
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Speaker 4: and the Knicks playing a home game.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 4: And I know people will dump on LA, but LA

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Speaker 4: is a great sports town with an asterisk if the

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Speaker 4: teams are good.

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Speaker 3: When the teams are good.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing like going to a Dodger game or a

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Speaker 4: Laker game or whatever. Now, if they're not any good,

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Speaker 4: you're not gonna see anybody there. But when it's popping,

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Speaker 4: there's not much better than La.

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Speaker 1: Got youa all right?

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Speaker 3: Got that?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Who is the most important signing now for the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Is it Dak Prescott?

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00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons or C d Lamb.

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Speaker 3: We've got to be Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 4: It has to be Dak Prescott because he's a quarterback

878
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Speaker 4: and when you talk about the quarterback being the most

879
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 4: important piece of the puzzle.

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Speaker 3: It's him.

881
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott has done a bunch of different different things

882
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: for this franchise.

883
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: I never has gotten his full of respect. I don't know.

884
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Speaker 4: People talk about the shortcomings and they'll put a lot

885
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Speaker 4: on him, and he has to play better in the postseason.

886
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: But Dak Rescott has been like the modelistability at the position.

887
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott has played at an elite level for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: He's the most important.

889
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Speaker 1: Piece, gotcha all right?

890
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think a lot of people talk

891
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: about this, especially when talk about quarterbacks of what they're doing.

892
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: But what kind of an advantage does a quarterback and

893
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: also does a Dome team have in the NFL.

894
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: They got to have an advantage, right.

895
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: They can have any but it kind of depends on

896
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 4: how its utilized, how it plays out. The advantage comes

897
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Speaker 4: from being able to play in like a climbate controlled environment.

898
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Speaker 3: You can build a fast team because.

899
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Speaker 4: The turf Foster's fast played and those things, but you

900
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Speaker 4: have to take advantage of it, like the Indianapolis Coast

901
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Speaker 4: did back in the day where they got home games

902
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Speaker 4: in the postseason there, because if you don't get it,

903
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Speaker 4: your team may not be built to play in the

904
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Speaker 4: Northeast and cold conditions in those things. So it can

905
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Speaker 4: be advantageous, but you got to be good enough to

906
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Speaker 4: take advantage of it.

907
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look what happened to Peyton.

908
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Speaker 2: I mean he played all those years in Indianapolis in

909
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Speaker 2: the Dome, right, which is somewhat of a cold climate,

910
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Speaker 2: and then it goes to Denver and kind of struggle

911
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Speaker 2: a little bit. You've been hit on it earlier today

912
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Speaker 2: that that team won the Super Bowl because a defense.

913
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Speaker 3: They did, but that was necessarily because of the weather.

914
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Speaker 4: It's because of what happened with his neck, and he

915
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Speaker 4: wasn't the same player, Yeah, but it impacted him.

916
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Speaker 3: Whenever they played in New England, they had issues there.

917
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Speaker 2: We go, Okay, the coach says, it's still open. Well,

918
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Speaker 2: we'll a close that and more. Where Fox Sports Sunday next.

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Speaker 2: When is he ready? That's right around the corner. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio. He

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Speaker 2: is Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman and we are broadcasting

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Speaker 1: Do I tire big should be here?

927
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Speaker 2: He is, mister Bucky Brooks, the man, the renaissance man,

928
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Speaker 2: the coach, the scout, the personnel man, the player.

929
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Speaker 1: He got it. He's a writer. He's everything you ever

930
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Speaker 1: wanted to be. If you're growing up, you.

931
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Speaker 2: Want to emulate this guy. He's Bucky Brooks. Bucky, how

932
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Speaker 2: you doing?

933
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Speaker 3: I'm great, Andy, how you doing?

934
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Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy to be with you. That's what

935
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Speaker 1: I'm happy.

936
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Speaker 2: Because the NFL is only three weeks away, really three

937
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 2: weeks away preseason, three games right now. Look, here's my question.

938
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Speaker 2: I understand that they claim that the preseason is to

939
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Speaker 2: judge talent. You draft the guy you want to see

940
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Speaker 2: if you could play. I'm not so certain you can

941
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Speaker 2: really judge a guy's talent or what he's going to

942
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Speaker 2: be in three games and practice obviously counts as well.

943
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Speaker 1: And they say, well it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't count.

944
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Speaker 2: Well, look the Bengals right now are zero to two,

945
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Speaker 2: and I think that when the coach says after the game, well,

946
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Speaker 2: you know, we don't really worry about that because you

947
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: know it's a developmental thing. With scouting, we're looking at players.

948
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Speaker 2: I think that if it didn't worry about it, you

949
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Speaker 2: wouldn't keep score. I think it means something. I think

950
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Speaker 2: you need to begin and start a winning deal. You

951
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Speaker 2: talk about culture, I think it starts in preseason.

952
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Speaker 1: You got to win. I think those games are important

953
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Speaker 1: to win to know what it's like to win. Am

954
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Speaker 1: I crazy?

955
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Speaker 4: I mean, look, everything you do creates a habit, and

956
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Speaker 4: so you certainly want to get in the habit of winning.

957
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Speaker 4: But it's really the way that you play that matters

958
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: more in the preseason as opposed to the final score.

959
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: Because you can have teams that the first and second

960
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Speaker 4: units get dominated, but then the threes come in and

961
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Speaker 4: they win the game. You don't feel great about that

962
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Speaker 4: win because your top two units didn't play up to

963
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Speaker 4: the standard. It's more so about the field and the

964
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: flow that you get from your team while watching them

965
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Speaker 4: play in these competitive games, and you want to win

966
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Speaker 4: them because you want the young guys and the backups

967
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: to understand the importance of winning. But it's more so

968
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: a did we play the way that we talk about playing.

969
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: Did we exhibit the core traits that we believe.

970
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Speaker 3: Are necessary for us to win long term.

971
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Speaker 4: If we did those, then we came away with a

972
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Speaker 4: very successful outing during the week. But if we didn't

973
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Speaker 4: do that withinn, it's an issue and we got to

974
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Speaker 4: figure out how to fix it to get better performance

975
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Speaker 4: on game day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the question. You're a fourth, fifth, sixth round

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Speaker 1: draft pick.

978
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Speaker 2: You're in a position that the starters that they're loaded

979
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: are not going anywhere, but you could be a backup

980
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Speaker 2: and you certainly want to make this ball club.

981
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Speaker 1: When do the coaches make the decision on this character? Okay?

982
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Speaker 1: Is it during the preseason? In the preseason games?

983
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Speaker 2: If he has an outstanding game, maybe he's a defensive back,

984
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Speaker 2: he has two i nts in one game.

985
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Speaker 1: Is it, wow, he impressed me, He's going to make

986
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: the club? Is it in practice? Is it on film?

987
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: How do these just know you've been there, you've done that,

988
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: you've scouted. When do they decide in that room that

989
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: this guy's going to make the team. Is it the

990
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: head coach, is it the position coach? How does that work?

991
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Speaker 4: It's an ongoing evaluation from the time you walk in

992
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: the doors in the offseason program. How do you do everything?

993
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: How are you consistent and your approach? Can you get better?

994
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: Are you committed again and better? How do you take

995
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: care of yourself? Then when you get into training camp

996
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: and you have these moments to practice and compete, and

997
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 4: you in competitive situations, do you do what you're supposed

998
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: to do? When you're playing in team drills?

999
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Speaker 7: Do you know?

1000
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: And then in preseason games do you do what you've

1001
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Speaker 3: shown to be able to do and practice?

1002
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Speaker 4: You know? So what you're looking for are consistent players.

1003
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Speaker 4: You know, because the players that are consistent, you know

1004
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 4: exactly what you're getting in, even if they have some

1005
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Speaker 4: shortcomings physically, at least you know as you're building your team,

1006
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Speaker 4: this player is always going to give me this. The

1007
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Speaker 4: ones that are the hardest to judge are the ones

1008
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Speaker 4: that up one day, down the next. That's so hard,

1009
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Speaker 4: so volatile when it comes to their performance. It's hard

1010
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 4: to build a team with guys that are like that

1011
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: because your team then becomes up and down and up

1012
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Speaker 4: and down, and everyone wants a consistent team that wins

1013
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: and plays at a high level. So it's an ongoing evaluation.

1014
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: How you perform in games matters a little more in practice,

1015
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: but it's all it's.

1016
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: All part of the deal, and I have the treaty,

1017
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: and I would think one of the most embarrassing things

1018
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: might be, and it's happened many times it will continue

1019
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: to happen when a player gets cut and all of

1020
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: a sudden he goes to another ball club and all

1021
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden becomes a star. I mean, I'm sure

1022
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: that's happened for whatever the reason. Maybe he wakes up,

1023
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the light goes off and say, wait a minute,

1024
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: I better stop, you know, busting my rear end here

1025
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 2: to make this ball club to stay in the National

1026
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: Football League.

1027
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the deal. And maybe he just feels more

1028
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Speaker 1: comfortable with that coaching staff. Who knows.

1029
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm sure you've seen it as well.

1030
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Speaker 2: Guy gets cut next to you know, he makes the

1031
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: All Pro team.

1032
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1033
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Speaker 4: The most important thing in the process fit in scheme

1034
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Speaker 4: and culture, Like how do you fit into the scheme

1035
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Speaker 4: that the team is playing, and how do you blend

1036
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Speaker 4: into the culture that they've created. Some guys are better

1037
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Speaker 4: suited to play in different environments because of the coaching,

1038
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Speaker 4: the voice that he hears in his ears, the environment

1039
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Speaker 4: that they've created in terms of whether they work harder

1040
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 4: or maybe they take it down or notch and so

1041
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: there are so many different factors in doing that. That's

1042
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Speaker 4: why as an evaluator, like guys who are really talented,

1043
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Speaker 4: you want to kick the tires on them to see

1044
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Speaker 4: if a new environment, a new coach, a new scheme

1045
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: can bring out the talent that you saw on them

1046
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: originally when they were going through the draft process. Man,

1047
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: it's in exact science in terms of who pops, who doesn't,

1048
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 4: who has success over a long time, who fails. And

1049
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 4: so you're always just kind of throwing darts out there

1050
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: hoping that you can kind of land a handful of

1051
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: guys that can be the core of your team and

1052
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Speaker 4: that fit how you want to play and fit the

1053
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Speaker 4: environment that you want to create.

1054
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Speaker 2: And a name comes to mind when you talk about

1055
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Speaker 2: something like that, I think of Baker Mayfield. I mean,

1056
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Speaker 2: here's a guy who heralded coming in to the pros,

1057
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Speaker 2: bounced around a little bit, didn't really make it much,

1058
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Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden he's got a big

1059
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: deal in Tampa. He's that guy. I mean, how does

1060
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: that happen? Is it the system or all of a

1061
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: sudden he says, look, I got one last chance. I

1062
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Speaker 2: better make the best of it.

1063
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Speaker 3: A few different things.

1064
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Speaker 4: For Baker Mayfield, I would give him a ton of

1065
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: credit because he had to do the work. When you're embarrassed,

1066
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Speaker 4: like he was, being a number one overall pick dismissed

1067
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Speaker 4: from the Cleveland Browns, you go to Carolina. Doesn't work

1068
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Speaker 4: out there, he humbly makes his way to the La

1069
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Speaker 4: Rams and plays for Sean McVay. Something in La click

1070
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Speaker 4: for him. He has some success, and that was enough

1071
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Speaker 4: to buy him time to get an opportunity with the

1072
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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. When he comes to the Buccaneers, he's

1073
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Speaker 4: a different player. He's not Baker of Old that stepped

1074
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Speaker 4: into Cleveland full of I would say cockiness and swag.

1075
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Speaker 4: He's still self confident, but he's a different dude. He's

1076
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Speaker 4: a man's man in the locker room. He worked and

1077
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Speaker 4: grinded and didn't do all the showy stuff that sometimes

1078
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 4: top picks can do. He just really committed to being

1079
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Speaker 4: with the guys, and he earned their respect through his

1080
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 4: work and the way that they played, and then the

1081
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: team responded to him and became more like him, very competitive,

1082
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Speaker 4: very feisty, a guy who has won, and so they

1083
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: started winning. And so he certainly bought himself or created

1084
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Speaker 4: an opportunity for himself to bounce back.

1085
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Speaker 3: But everybody's not built like Baker.

1086
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Speaker 4: Everybody's not built to withstand some adversity and some setbacks

1087
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Speaker 4: and still find their way to the other side. So

1088
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Speaker 4: I give him a ton of credit for the mental toughness,

1089
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Speaker 4: to perseverance and all those things that he displayed outside

1090
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: of the talent that he had.

1091
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: No interesting I'm going to give an example here a

1092
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: New England Patriots, their first year coach, Torod Mayo. He said,

1093
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: the rookie quarterback out of North Carolina, you know, Drake

1094
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: may said he definitely quote definitely took a step forward

1095
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: in that team's Thursday night lost to the Eagles fourteen thirteen.

1096
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: Okay, what does that mean?

1097
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm in the media room after the

1098
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: game and I hear him say, as a coach, could

1099
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 2: you translate that from me say it took a step forward?

1100
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: Is he going to be the starter? Is he going

1101
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: to start?

1102
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be the number one? Is Jacoby Pressett

1103
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: not going to be the guy? Jacoby Pressett's a nine

1104
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: year pro. He's probably the most ready quarterback for the

1105
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: New England Patriots to take snaps on opening day. But

1106
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: when you tell me he's taking a step forward, what

1107
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: does that mean? I mean, could you translate that for me?

1108
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: Because I would love to see a media guy. Maybe

1109
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 2: the media people are too embarrassed to ask him that question.

1110
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: I would have asked Rod Mayo that question.

1111
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Coach?

1112
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: It means that he improved.

1113
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 4: It means that from where he was a week ago

1114
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: to where he is today, he showed improvement, and he

1115
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 4: showed an improvement in real time in a game. His decisions,

1116
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: the production, the performance, all those things stay improved. He

1117
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: looked more comfortable on that stage. And as he's discussed,

1118
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: just because Jacoby Brisaid has been there nine years and

1119
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: the plan was supposed to be that he's going to

1120
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: started a handful of games, maybe there's not that much

1121
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 4: difference in Jacoby were said in Drake May. Maybe Drake

1122
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: May's closed the gap where you feel comfortable enough to

1123
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: just put him out there and say, forget sitting back, like,

1124
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 4: we're just gonna put you out there and let.

1125
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: You learn on the fly.

1126
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 4: You have to know the player and see if he

1127
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 4: can handle the diversity that could come with that type

1128
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 4: of approach.

1129
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: Can he handle getting beat up?

1130
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: Can you handle the criticism from the outside, because the

1131
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: voices are louder now with social media and Twitter and

1132
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: those things. You have to make sure that your guy's

1133
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 4: wired the right way because that stuff can absolutely crush

1134
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: him and he never gets back from that.

1135
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's pull it back the onion a little bit.

1136
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: Here be go, So you're gonna help me with this.

1137
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 2: Drake May, the North Carolina guy, took twenty five snaps

1138
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: in that game. He was six for eleven forty seven yards.

1139
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: He had a four yard rushing touchdown. He threw a

1140
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: pass that was dropped and it wasn't his fault. It

1141
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: was a pretty good pass. And then all of a sudden,

1142
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: you see perset come in. Jacoby Pressett comes in. He

1143
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: had three series under his belt. He was three for

1144
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: seven seventeen yards and they had a big time zone interception.

1145
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: All right, Now, as far as I look at statistics,

1146
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: and look at film right now, Drake May to me,

1147
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: is moving ahead of Jacoby Present because of that performance. Now,

1148
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: you played the game, You've been in clubs and you've

1149
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: seen locker room situations where is somewhat of a quarterback competition?

1150
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: Is there?

1151
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: How do I word this? Is there? Animosity? Is there?

1152
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: Jealousy? Are these two quarterbacks are a bonding or is

1153
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: their hatred? Is there one rooting against the other one?

1154
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: How does that work?

1155
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: Tell me?

1156
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: I'd love to see that in person. Is Jacoby Present

1157
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: rooting against Drake May or vice versa.

1158
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: Every quarterback room, every room is different.

1159
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: There can be one in situations where the quarterbacks are

1160
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: all in it together, they're looking to help each other out.

1161
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: There also can be ones.

1162
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 4: Where the starter is clearly approaching it differently than the

1163
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: backups and he sees them as necessary beings that are

1164
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 4: to support him, to give them home work projects, to

1165
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: help him get ready to play, and he may not

1166
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: dive into what they're doing and those things. In a

1167
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: competitive situation, it's really hard on the team, right because

1168
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: all the things that you learn coming up about team

1169
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 4: we over me and making sure that we put the

1170
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: collective in front of the individual. Pro football isn't like that.

1171
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: You have fifty three independent contractors. And as much as

1172
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: I want the team to win, I need to be

1173
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: a big part of the team winning so I can

1174
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 4: stay around. If I'm just a guy that is perceived

1175
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: to be a Burger eat, I mean, I make all

1176
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 4: the trips, but I don't do anything.

1177
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't contribute. It's harder in the quarterback room.

1178
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: It's about making sure that everyone is given the freedom

1179
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: and the space to do what they need to do

1180
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 4: while hoping that the whole unit comes together. But yeah,

1181
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 4: it can be awkward at times between Jacoby Brissett and

1182
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: Drake May. It can be awkward when you're vying for

1183
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: the same spot. But you got to be a profession

1184
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 4: and put all that stuff to the side and focus

1185
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: on your job in supporting the team the best way

1186
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: that you can.

1187
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand that because obviously, you know you

1188
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: don't want to see a guy get hurt. But certainly

1189
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: you want to get this starting job on the obelt,

1190
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: you want to win that position. You want to win

1191
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: it far and square on the field, feeling that you

1192
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: had enough chance to win that starting job. But also

1193
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: I think there are certain players and I don't think

1194
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: people realize this enough. You always see the term quarterback

1195
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: competition or you know, a quarterback, I guess race, whatever

1196
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: it may be. But certainly certain players bond better with

1197
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: certain quarterbacks, and we don't hear that.

1198
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's too much of that going on.

1199
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: What I mean by that is that if there's two

1200
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks going head to head in quarterback competition, the media

1201
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: doesn't really get a hold of the receivers, saying, who

1202
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: would you really like to see at quarterback? You know,

1203
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: who works the offense better. The coaches will be asked

1204
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: that question, but not actually the receivers on the team.

1205
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Who would benefit by one quarterback over another?

1206
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: Correct, Well, it's hard, right because if I'm a wide

1207
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: receiver and I say I love this quarterback, what happens

1208
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: if the other guy wins the job? Then I put

1209
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 4: myself in a situation where he doesn't throw me the ball.

1210
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 4: So you have to kind of operate in neutral. But

1211
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: guys know, and the team typically lets you know which

1212
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: one is going to win, not necessarily verbally, but they

1213
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: play different. When the better guys in the game, they

1214
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 4: make more plays, and so as a coach, your job

1215
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: is to kind of read the room, which one is

1216
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: the best fit for the room.

1217
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: It's not a talent based thing.

1218
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: It's all of the things, the intangible, the personality, the

1219
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: leadership skills, the game. Who has the most winning in

1220
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: tangibles for this unit, this group that we have that

1221
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 4: will help us win games. So it's deeper than just

1222
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 4: who's throwing it, what's the completion percentage? In those things,

1223
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: It's about how they lead, how they interact, how they connect.

1224
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: And the more I hear from you, the more I learn.

1225
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: I really do because it's a tough call. It really is,

1226
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: because the you're responsible. I'm certainly I know it's the

1227
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: head coach is basically making the final call. But you

1228
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: get the quarterback coach the offensive to make go to

1229
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 2: the head coaches say, look, we need Drake may he's

1230
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: the guy, and the head coaches no, I want Jacoby

1231
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: because I think he's got more experience.

1232
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna go with Jacoby Briscaid.

1233
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure Chris Mayo's got the final sing right, I mean,

1234
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't that be the way to go?

1235
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's a tough call.

1236
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: It's a tough call, But how does the team respond

1237
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 4: to Drake may How does the team respond to Jacoby?

1238
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: Which one is going to give us a chance to

1239
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 4: flourish and succeed under their leadership. It's a lot, man,

1240
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: It's a lot of little things that go with it.

1241
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: But I would say this, in watching the competition between

1242
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 4: Jacoby and Drake may Man, there's a reasonable case that

1243
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: you can make they just put Drake may in and

1244
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: kind of find a way to do it. You're saying

1245
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 4: the team is not crazy talented, but put him in.

1246
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: He can make some plays. You just have to make

1247
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: sure that mentally he's tough enough to endure the bumps

1248
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: and the difficult part.

1249
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: Of the game.

1250
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 4: Can he can he continue to maintain his confidence if

1251
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 4: you lose six, seven, eight in a row, if he

1252
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 4: is getting beat to a pulp in the pocket.

1253
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: More so trying to preserve their mental than the physical.

1254
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and this really is like

1255
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: a question out of left field. They do a lot

1256
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 2: of preparation before a games, a lot of play action,

1257
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: a lot of scouting, a lot of plays drawn up.

1258
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: You know these coaches they claim they sleep on the

1259
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: couch as they have to one in the morning. If

1260
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: that's the case, and they want to do matchups. How

1261
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: come they don't switch quarterbacks on a weekly basis. If

1262
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: I know that Drake May is going to be better

1263
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: against the Jets and Jacobe PRISSEATID, why wouldn't I start

1264
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: Drake May? You know, looking at their defense, they Drake

1265
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: May would do a better job. Don't Why can't they

1266
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 2: switch quarterbacks on a weekly basis or against various teams

1267
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: if they think they'd be a better fit.

1268
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: Why don't they do that?

1269
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: Because the team?

1270
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: How does the team respond to the revolving door, Because

1271
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: every time you switch the quarterback, you switch.

1272
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 3: The wave.

1273
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: Receivers have to adjust to the balls that are coming

1274
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 4: in the way. The team has respond to the cadence

1275
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 4: because no one has the same rhythm when it comes

1276
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: to the cadence and all of those things. So that's

1277
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: why you try not disrupt the entire team. But you

1278
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: do wonder why teams don't go to those type things

1279
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 4: more if you have an even thing, not that you

1280
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: alternate them, but why not being quick to pour the trigger?

1281
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: And a lot of times we are impacted by the

1282
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: outside noise, the public, right, but the public is influenced

1283
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: by the guys who are normally calling the game.

1284
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: Who are those guys quarterbacks?

1285
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks are rare to advocate like hey, yeah, just switch

1286
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: them all in and out because their own personal experience

1287
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: would tell.

1288
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: Them like, no, if I'm the man, I want to

1289
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: be the man.

1290
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 4: I want to have the opportunity to go through the

1291
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 4: ups and downs of being the leader of the squad

1292
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 4: in my unit.

1293
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, I mean at least you short have met

1294
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: me halfway that it's a possibility that maybe they could

1295
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: switch quarterbacks.

1296
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 1: And it's not going to happen, but it would.

1297
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: It would take someone who is bold enough to do

1298
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 3: it right.

1299
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: You know, who's bold enough, who's empowered enough to be

1300
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: able to do it, Like a Mike Tomlin could do

1301
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: that in Pittsburgh with Justin Fields and Russell Wilson, he

1302
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: may be going out because because he's he's empowered, they

1303
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: believe in him. The team believes in him in those things.

1304
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: So it just depends on the coach and how will

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Speaker 2: Thank you you really helped me out there, because I

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Speaker 2: this right now, because I want to talk about Colin Kaepernick,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes it's best to say less.

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Saying less is best. Even people tell me that all

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00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: the time here.

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00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: But if Colin Kaepernick wants to join the LA Chargers,

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen until next year.

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Speaker 1: Why do I say that?

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: Because he wants to be a member maybe of Jim

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00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: Harbard's coaching staff. And this is what harbar said, quote,

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00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 2: I love Colin, but he's not going to be under

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00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: coaching staff which is set for this year.

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Speaker 1: And he's not going to be playing on the roster either.

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: This is what he said if the practice just the

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00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: other day.

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00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: And obviously Harvard coach Kaepernick the forty nine ers from

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Speaker 2: two to twenty fourteen.

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01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: But here's my deal.

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01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: You know, he said he got in touch with him

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: when he got the job back in January about being

1349
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: a coach. You know, if in fact he wanted to

1350
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: hire him, why didn't hire him?

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01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: Then?

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01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: Why bring this up now?

1353
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: So, as I say, if he was going to do it,

1354
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: he'd be working now, why bring up Colin Kaepernick's name. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand this whole situation. I'm a fan of

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01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, I really am. I like the guy I

1357
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: wanted to see him do well, and he will do

1358
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: well because his track record shows that he's going to

1359
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: be successful again in the NFL. But the capertive thing

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01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: that it's an open and shut case. He'd called him

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01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: in January, not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: You got a staff. Why bring his name up now? Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Tell me what did he bring

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01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: up his name?

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Speaker 4: Or did someone ask him a question about Colin Kaepernick?

1366
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 4: Because if someone asked him a question, and it's his

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: duty to answer that question. And he just tried to

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Speaker 4: provide more contexts as to why Colin Kaepernick was either

1369
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: contacted or asked, or.

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Speaker 3: Did he consider bringing him on the staff or any

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Speaker 3: of those things.

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Speaker 4: The Colin Kaepernick story is one that probably is more

1373
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: buzzy outside of the football world and inside the world

1374
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: when you haven't played as long as he's played, like

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: the NFL has moved on, like it's unlikely that he

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: would ever get a chance to play in the league

1377
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: at his age, like you know, mid thirties and those things.

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01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: And that's not saying anything about how he quarterbacked the

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01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: last time we saw him.

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Speaker 3: It's just a father time. We make it unlikely that he.

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01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: Would be able to carve out a role for himself

1382
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: on the squad. It'd be interesting to see what Harbard

1383
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 4: says or does when he talks about him as a

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 4: coach and those things, because one of the things that

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 4: has happened with the Chargers is he's brought a lot

1386
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 4: of his former players back to be around his interns

1387
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 4: in those things. Through our training camp, Michael Patty's up there.

1388
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: I think Navar Bowman may be helping out a little bit.

1389
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 4: So if Colin Kaepernick came, it would be another player

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Speaker 4: who can provide perspective and context on how Jim Harby

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01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: likes doing things.

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Speaker 2: I would say this, though we talked earlier to you,

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: abou kind of Stallion is the guy that was alleged

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: cheating to see stealing signs at University of Michigan. He's

1395
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: a high school defensive coordinator and he got a job.

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Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick, to me, got screwed big time, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: He's thirty seven years old now and he's never going

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Speaker 2: to play again, as you mentioned, But here's the guy.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for the guy. I mean, he had

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Speaker 1: some talent.

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Speaker 2: I mean people talk about what he did off the

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01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: football field, but he had a twenty nine to sixteen

1403
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: record as a starter. He was in the playoffs and

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: honestly he did well. You know, he played in the

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He started quarterback with the Super Bowl. What

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: was it against the Baltimore Ravens. So the guy basically

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Speaker 2: got screwed. He was made an example of. And that's sad,

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: and I'm glad a guy like Jim Harbaugh is even

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: bringing his name up, and maybe next year he will

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Speaker 2: be on the staff. But I don't think maybe now

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01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: was the time, and maybe you're right, maybe he was

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Speaker 2: asked by immediate guy. I doubt I don't think the

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: media people are that smart. He will remember that that

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Speaker 2: he coached Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. I don't think

1415
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: they're that smart. But to me, it was meaningless. He

1416
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: either hired the guy or you don't hire the guy.

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01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: The case closed, but the door, I guess is still open.

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: And I certainly hope Jim hires him next year because

1419
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: he's a guy who really got screwed big time.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I played out, it played out,

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: but he didn't get an opportunity to play again, which

1423
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 4: is kind of unprecedented for a player of his talent level,

1424
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 4: particularly the way that he was finishing. People make the

1425
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: things about, oh, he couldn't do this, he can do that,

1426
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: But we've seen lesser talents continue to get multiple opportunities.

1427
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: In fact, Nathan Peterman just signed again to play with

1428
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 4: the Raiders and he doesn't have the talent that Colin

1429
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Speaker 4: Kaepernick had.

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Speaker 3: At his best.

1431
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 4: But some of the league is just that it's opportunity.

1432
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 4: Can you get an opportunity, can you get a fair shake?

1433
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 4: And it's never fair, but it goes like that. I

1434
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 4: think for cap when it comes to the charges, it

1435
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 4: really comes down to what Jim Harbrough wants to do,

1436
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 4: and more importantly, what does Colin Kaepernick want to do.

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Speaker 3: If he wants to coach, if he wants to.

1438
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Speaker 4: Play, he should make those things known to the people

1439
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 4: involved that can help him accomplish those things. But as

1440
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: a player thirty seven years old, it's gone.

1441
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's over with.

1442
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: It's about coaching or be a part of a team

1443
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 4: in a different administrative role more so than anything else.

1444
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: You know, the older I get, the more I see

1445
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: how hypocritical the media is. And I'm sure you see

1446
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: that as well.

1447
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: And what do I mean by that.

1448
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, they took about Colin Kapenick as a coach

1449
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: and no one said boom, no one said anything about that.

1450
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: The guys had no experience, but he may very well

1451
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: be a good coach when they asked Jim Harbar about that.

1452
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: So you know, Al Davis saw something in me that

1453
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: made him think that I would be a good coach,

1454
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: and I see the same things in the same qualities

1455
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: in Colin and that's what he wants to choose.

1456
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: He wants to be a coach. I would hire him.

1457
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: But people went crazy when the Lakers hired JJ Reddick

1458
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: with no experience and Colin Kapack Kapernick has no experience

1459
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: as a head coach. No one says anything. You know,

1460
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a pick and choose with the media.

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01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: Right well, and also he hasn't been hired, Like if

1462
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick was hired, you think that mainstream media wouldn't

1463
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 4: go bananas about Colin Kaepernick, Like he couldn't even have

1464
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 4: a try out without it becoming like in the news

1465
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 4: cycle at the top of the thing. Yeah, we pick

1466
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 4: and choose, and it's one of the things that's frustrating

1467
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 4: as a media member, like just kind of seeing the

1468
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: state of the industry when it comes to those things,

1469
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: as I'll talk about, like with JJ Reddick, I didn't

1470
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: have an issue with JJ Reddick because I'm a former player.

1471
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: I always will advocate for former players having opportunities to

1472
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 4: coach the game that they played in because there's this

1473
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: stigma and bias that former players are good enough to

1474
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: play but not smart enough to do the other stuff.

1475
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: So I hope JJ.

1476
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 4: Reddick plays and has success as a coach because it

1477
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 4: will open the door for others to be able to

1478
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: do it. We saw a recent trend in the National

1479
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: Football League where former players were getting job drive Mayo

1480
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: being able to get a job on the heels of

1481
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: Demiko Ryants having success in Houston. So I'm pulling for

1482
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 4: those guys because it creates more opportunities for other former

1483
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: players to jump in and coach and do some of

1484
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: those things.

1485
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, And the day that Colin gets a

1486
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: job as a coach, the media will go crazy. They

1487
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: will I don't know if they if they really and

1488
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: truly believe it, or it's a great talking point to

1489
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: stir the pot.

1490
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1491
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 2: It's one of the other but then again, it just

1492
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: makes me sick. They're waiting, they're waiting in the bushes.

1493
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: As soon as he gets the job, boom, that's gonna

1494
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: be the story now that he got hired. But why

1495
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: did he get hired? Because he had no experience? And

1496
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: one other thing, well, I look at Colin Kapnick. The

1497
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: big thing the right about him is like, oh, he

1498
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: had a twenty nine to sixteen record as a starter.

1499
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: That to me is the most ridiculous statistic, a meaningless

1500
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: statistic in the National Football League, a quarterback record as

1501
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: a starter.

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: You're a team. It's a team game. It's not the

1503
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks deal, right, don't you agree with that?

1504
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that because ultimately the quarterback is

1505
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 4: supposed to win. It's no different than a pitcher in

1506
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: baseball who gets credit for the win. When we ultimately

1507
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 4: had the conversation in the first hour about the goat,

1508
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 4: how do we determine which ones are the goat? We

1509
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 4: talked about Tom Brady and his seven rings. Well, the

1510
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: seven rings go along with wins. He didn't win all

1511
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 4: those super Bowls by himself, but he gets credit for that.

1512
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: The first three to Tom Brady won were on the

1513
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 4: heels of a Patriots defense that really carried the weight. Now,

1514
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: those last four you can talk about Tom Brady. But

1515
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 4: so if we talk about winning John Joe Montana, he's

1516
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 4: to go because of he won four times, Pat Mahomes

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01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: because of those things.

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Speaker 3: Winning has to matter.

1519
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: If not, you're just in the vacuum performing but not

1520
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 4: doing anything that helps your team win.

1521
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: So winning has to be a part of the evaluation.

1522
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: When we talk about quarterbacks.

1523
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: You caught me again. You win again. Not only do

1524
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: you win in bon and barrel betting, you win in

1525
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: every argument I have with you. But it's okay. I learned,

1526
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: I was. I'm not upset by quarterbacks. I learned from you.

1527
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: I really do. I just thought it was a silly statistic.

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Speaker 2: When you make the comparison to Major League Baseball pitchers,

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: You're right, Bingo, you're right, You're right on they do that.

1530
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, picture what his record is against that team.

1531
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: You're right. I'm with you, and you told me to it.

1532
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: These are the things that I learned from you. I

1533
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: really do.

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01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: By the way, shortly after the show, our podcast is

1535
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,240
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1540
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: you'll see this show Fox Sports Sunday right after we

1541
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: get off the year. Now there is no right way

1542
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 2: it's done or it's not done. Okay, and that's coming

1543
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: up next live from the Tirack dot Com studios. But first,

1544
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 2: this guy always does it the right way. Kevin Wyatt

1545
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: with the sports.

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Speaker 6: Major League Baseball, the Pennant races taking shape and out

1547
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 6: West the Dodgers up. They're leading the NLS now down

1548
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 6: to just two games. They were in firm control of

1549
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 6: this division all season long, but they lose to the

1550
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 6: Cardinals five to two, and when the Padres winning at

1551
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 6: eight three, San Diego now two games back of LA.

1552
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 6: The Diamondbacks. They've been red howk coming out of the

1553
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 6: All Star Break, but did not get the win on Saturdays,

1554
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 6: so there's still three games back of LA in third

1555
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 6: place in that division. They fell to the Rays on

1556
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 6: Saturday six to one. The Braves get the win against

1557
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 6: the Angels eleven to three. So for that National League,

1558
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 6: while it is the Padres, Diamondbacks, and Braves holding those

1559
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 6: three spots. The Mets, though, are one game back of

1560
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 6: that last playoff spot. The Mets did get the win

1561
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 6: on Saturday, they beat the Marlins four to nothing. The

1562
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,480
Speaker 6: American League Central starting to tighten up. The Cleveland Guardians

1563
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 6: beaten by the Milwaukee Brewers two to one. The Twins

1564
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 6: taking advantage, they get the win at the Texas Rangers

1565
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 6: five to two, so Cleveland's lead in that AL Central

1566
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 6: now just two games. In the AL least, both the

1567
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 6: Yankees and Orioles lose on Saturday. The Bombers blank by

1568
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 6: the Tigers for nothing the Yankees, which is four hits

1569
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 6: in that game. The Orioles lose to the Red Sox

1570
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 6: five to one, so the Yankees still one game up

1571
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 6: on Baltimore for the lead in the American League American

1572
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 6: League East the wildcard though for the American League it

1573
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 6: is the Orioles and Twins holding the top two spots,

1574
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 6: the Royals in front of the White Sox currently two

1575
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 6: and a half game for that final wild card position.

1576
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 6: The American League West, it was the Mariners division to

1577
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 6: lose much of the season, but it's slowly slipping away

1578
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 6: from them, as they've now lost five straight, including a

1579
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 6: seven to two defeat to the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Astros

1580
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 6: getting a win against the White Sox six to one,

1581
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 6: so Houston's lead in the AL West has now grown

1582
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 6: to four games. In NFL preseason football, Caleb Williams gets

1583
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 6: his first preseason touchdown.

1584
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: It was a seven yard run.

1585
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 6: On the day, passing he was six to thirteen for

1586
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 6: seventy five yards as the Bears do beat the Cincinnati

1587
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 6: Bengals twenty seven to three. Not good quarterback play though

1588
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 6: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They lose the Bills nine to three,

1589
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 6: but Russell Wilson, justin Field's combining for just one hundred

1590
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 6: and thirteen passing yards, and Daniel Jones coming back from

1591
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 6: his torn acl as the Giants played the Texans, but

1592
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 6: Houston demolishes New York twenty eight to ten, as Jones

1593
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 6: throwing two picks, including a pick six.

1594
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, kep seeing it now,

1595
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 2: all right, it's all talk. I'll explain that in just

1596
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 2: about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman.

1597
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports, Sonny and Fox Sports Ready about

1598
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 2: and barrel betting in just a couple of minutes from now.

1599
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: And I guess the big talk, the big talk off

1600
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: season right now is the dragging of the Dallas Cowboys

1601
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: quarterback contract Dak Prescott. Prescott, and there's now his final

1602
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: year of his deal set to make twenty nine mill

1603
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: this year. That's going to count like fifty five million

1604
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: dollars against the salary cap and without an extension, which

1605
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 2: he's looking for, he'll get free agency in March and

1606
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: about forty million dollars against the Cowboys cap in twenty

1607
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: twenty five.

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: All right, this is a big deal. I don't know why.

1609
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's not signed. Look, you know

1610
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: as well as I do. But the longer it takes

1611
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: them to sign him, and I took a bout Jerry

1612
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: Jones signing him, the more money Jerry Jones is gonna

1613
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 1: have to pay. And I don't get it. Is it

1614
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,440
Speaker 1: an ego thing for Jerry Jones? Does he want the exposure?

1615
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: What's more? Pr it's called to cost him? All right?

1616
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott says talks are on the right way,

1617
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: all right? What is that mean?

1618
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: The right way?

1619
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: You either have a signing or you don't have a

1620
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: signing and look, Dak has him by the you know what,

1621
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: by the gon Ads because there's no other option in

1622
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.

1623
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: So he knows he's going to get his money. If

1624
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: not now, he's going to get it later.

1625
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1626
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 4: So when you think about it, yeah, he absolutely going

1627
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 4: to get his money, and he deserves to get his money.

1628
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 4: I don't know why the Cowboys have been dragging if

1629
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 4: he paying him, but yeah, he understands it, and maybe

1630
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: he is looking to go elsewhere. Maybe he's not in

1631
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 4: the rush to get it done because he wants to

1632
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 4: hit free agency and hit the open market and become

1633
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 4: a sixty million dollar quarterback and maybe pick and choose

1634
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 4: where he wants to play and who he wants to

1635
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 4: play for.

1636
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1637
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 4: If I'm Dak Prescott, I would get tired of having

1638
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 4: to always fight for my money.

1639
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: That's a fourth round pick.

1640
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't get my money when I outplayed my contract immediately.

1641
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: I then had to sit on a franchise tag and

1642
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 4: risk injury, get injured, get my money, and now here

1643
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 4: we are again, eight nine years in, I got to

1644
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 4: do it all over again. Yeah, that can be tiring.

1645
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 4: Get me annoying. But what it also would do is, yeah,

1646
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm not giving you a hometown discount. I'm not giving

1647
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: you the oh, let's do for the team thing. Yeah,

1648
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: he's not gonna do that because he doesn't have any

1649
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 4: reason to, given how the Cowboys have treated him.

1650
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny.

1651
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: I think that Dak Prescott to me, is one of

1652
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: the most underrated quarterbacks in the National Football League. You

1653
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: look at what he's done, look at the statistics. I mean,

1654
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: it's a shame that a that team is so popular,

1655
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: it's such a microscope that it's under that they could

1656
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: judge so rue. I mean, they did a most watched

1657
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: team on TV every single year, no matter what they do.

1658
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: But the fact that they have not really done much

1659
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: in the last several years, and I haven't won a

1660
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: championship in some twenty five years, he gets to blame

1661
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: for that. Although I think he's a tremendous quarterback, and

1662
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: you're right, he might be better served going to another

1663
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: team and leading into victory.

1664
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 4: Hmm, that's tough. I heard what you're saying. That's tough, though.

1665
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if you leave another team and go

1666
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 4: to victory. But I understand what you're saying. I kind

1667
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 4: of get it. I'm trying to be a new wave

1668
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 4: thinker like you, Andy, But I don't know. I don't

1669
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 4: know if I can go all the way.

1670
01:13:59,560 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: You don't know.

1671
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1672
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: I hope he stays there because I think they could win.

1673
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: They won twelve games last year. I think they could

1674
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 2: win and they could certainly win with him. They got

1675
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: to sign C. D.

1676
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: Lamb. They got to sign him as well.

1677
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: But here's the big question, the biggest question of the day, really,

1678
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: can the quarterback salaries that they're getting right now, could

1679
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: they ultimately ruin the National Football League and maybe the

1680
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: power structor structure for players' salaries, because when a quarterback

1681
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: eats up so much money on the roster and there's

1682
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 2: not much left for anybody else, and when seeing that

1683
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: maybe it's happening in Dallas, is that going to hurt

1684
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: the NFL down the road. I mean, these quarterbacks again,

1685
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 2: big time money and they I'm not gonna say they

1686
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: deserve it, but they did the team.

1687
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: They make the team go. You don't have a quarterback,

1688
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: you don't win.

1689
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: But could that ultimately kill the National Football League because

1690
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: the's no money left for anybody else.

1691
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 4: It could if you don't know what you're doing, if

1692
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 4: you don't know how to manage conversations, communication and budgeting, Yeah,

1693
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 4: it could be problematic. But you have to have real

1694
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 4: conversations with the people for that come up, and they

1695
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 4: may not like what you have to say, but I

1696
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: think you have to be direct and honest. You also

1697
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 4: have to have some values or some things that you

1698
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 4: stand on that you're not willing to relent on. We

1699
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 4: saw the off season program with Joe Shane and the

1700
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 4: Giants and they talked about running backs and twenty seven

1701
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 4: years old being when they fall off the cliff. Well,

1702
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 4: that's what you believe in. You stand firm in that,

1703
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 4: and you don't make any exceptions to the rule. You say, Man,

1704
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 4: I love you as a player, but this doesn't work

1705
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 4: for us. You don't fit what we're looking for. That's fine,

1706
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 4: that's Everybody's not gonna be a fit for everybody.

1707
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's some things that can be done.

1708
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, they wouldn't sign sae Quon balk and not

1709
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: like that.

1710
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: They let them go. They let them go to a

1711
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 2: team in their own division. I mean, from what I've saw,

1712
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: are the Giants what they've done in they Love season.

1713
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: It's very foolish, it really is.

1714
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones is not going to lead them to

1715
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: any place or anywhere, especially the Promised Land. Yesterday he

1716
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: looked terrible, he did, so I just you know, look

1717
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: you stand, Pat, I hear what you're saying. But say

1718
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: Kwon Barkley was their offense, and they let them go,

1719
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: and now he's going to hurt them two times a

1720
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 2: year when they play each other.

1721
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: Not good. It's not a good move.

1722
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 3: No, not a good move at all. Not a good move.

1723
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: But I'm happy for Sa Kwon because he's gonna win.

1724
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: Now he'll be on a winner, so that's good for him.

1725
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1726
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports

1727
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Well please please don't call

1728
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: it a game. It's a war every single week. And

1729
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 2: you know what, it's bottom barrel betting. And it's freaking

1730
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: next bottom barrel betting right around the bed. About eleven

1731
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: minutes now before the top of the hour. This is

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks.

1733
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Ferman. We live for the tire Rack dot Com. Studios.

1734
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: We've got a game to play. Let's play it. It's

1735
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: bottom Bottom Mill. You thought you was late? Mony to sleep? People,

1736
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: get my money. I'll put your brain to sleep. Betting,

1737
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: Yes we do.

1738
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: And the one and only Shay Shay Shay is here

1739
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: to play. Play play.

1740
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: Let's go, guys.

1741
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 7: It's been a while since I've been on the seat

1742
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 7: for this and I'm excited to do it. If you

1743
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 7: guys don't know how to play this game for our listeners,

1744
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 7: I basically just give Bucky and Andy's some bets that

1745
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 7: I found on some betting websites and see what they

1746
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 7: would choose. All right, guys, you guys ready, Actually, before

1747
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 7: we go into this, Ian actually sent me last week's

1748
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 7: last week's match, and you guys actually tied because the

1749
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 7: darts match ended in a draw, leading the score to

1750
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 7: Buckie seventy three and Andy fifty eight. Andy, I've been

1751
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 7: gone for what two months? Three months, and you've really

1752
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 7: you haven't gotten any better.

1753
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: I fit excuse it's I think the TI win the

1754
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: ties of win.

1755
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: For me, it is, it is a win for you.

1756
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 7: But you know what, I I think we're gonna do

1757
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 7: a new season and we're gonna reset the scores from

1758
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 7: this point. So it's zero zero right now.

1759
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: And it's a clean We will be a chick with

1760
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: Buckey on that. He may not want to go Bucky.

1761
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: Is that?

1762
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: Is that alright with you? What do we want to do?

1763
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: We want to start all over.

1764
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a zero zero clean slate. I mean,

1765
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: let's start with the NFL season starts. Let's do that.

1766
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: We'll do that.

1767
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 7: We'll do a season two then, but let's get right

1768
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 7: into it. In the Brave Combat Federation a World MMA promotion,

1769
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 7: bajaaz Care is taking on Zero today at six am.

1770
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 3: It's just zero.

1771
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 7: By the way, Bajarat con is plus one fifty while

1772
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 7: Zeo is minus two hundred.

1773
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's bucket go first.

1774
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: Give me the name is Baja? That was first. Yeah,

1775
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: let's go Bajara.

1776
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with zero because it's pretty close to zero,

1777
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: and that's what I do. When this game zero, I'm

1778
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: gonna go with Zeo.

1779
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's see what happens with that one.

1780
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 7: So in the Tanzian Premier League, which is a soccer

1781
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 7: league in Tanzia, uh Simba s C is taking on

1782
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 7: kit Ta yose F C at six fifteen am today,

1783
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 7: Simba s C is minus five hundred, while kit Te

1784
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 7: Yosi f C is plus one.

1785
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: Killing me, smallest kid. Get some Easia names. I'm gonna

1786
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: go with.

1787
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: These are the easy ones.

1788
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: I can't pronounce the other name. I'm gonna with Simba.

1789
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Really Bucky, I gotta go to opposite. I gotta go to.

1790
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: He can't pronounce it either. Let's go.

1791
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 7: I swear these are the easiest names in the in

1792
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 7: the Tanzian Premier League. In the Chinese Professional Basketball League,

1793
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 7: the TSG Hawks are taking on the CTBC Brothers. Easy

1794
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 7: names for you guys. In little under thirty minutes, the

1795
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 7: TSG Hawks or plus one thirty while the CTBC Brothers

1796
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 7: are minus one seventy.

1797
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: Who's up me, Yeah, it's gonna be you Andy.

1798
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the brothers because I think they

1799
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: play well together. The ct BC Brothers, obviously players are unit.

1800
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna win, all right, I go to opposite.

1801
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 3: Since this is preseason game, it doesn't matter TSG.

1802
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 4: This is preseason. Their preseason games is a preseason is preseason.

1803
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 4: Don't need to put a whole lot into this.

1804
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 7: We're going to Saudi Arabia for the Call of Duty

1805
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 7: East Sports World Cup, where Optic is taking on Atlanta

1806
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 7: Phase at seven am in the semi finals of the

1807
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 7: whole tournament. Atlanta Phase and Optic are both minus one

1808
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 7: fifteen to win.

1809
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 3: Who you guys got I'm gonna go with an Optic.

1810
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Phase. We want to phase right

1811
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: out of here, really, and then with the last one

1812
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: in the shine? What do you get these games from?

1813
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 6: Come on?

1814
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: Will you? Can you get a little more normal games?

1815
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: Isn't that the point of this game?

1816
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: Though?

1817
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: Bottom barrel betting? Are you really good? To the bottom

1818
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: of the bottles? The point of the game. Sorry, I'm

1819
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: doing my job.

1820
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 4: Man, Come on, I mean I would think I would

1821
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 4: think there's someone who's argument like that, like you're throwing

1822
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 4: him a.

1823
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 3: Golden parachute with his regular should be very nice. Yeah.

1824
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 7: I tried resetting the game for you. You know, we're

1825
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 7: not resetting the game anymore. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's

1826
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 7: just it's not gonna happen anymore. And you know what,

1827
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 7: we can't even get to my last my last thing because.

1828
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 3: You just kept going. It's thank you.

1829
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: I do need that time.

1830
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 7: It's I mean, do we have time? We Mark says

1831
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 7: we don't have time, So we don't have time. I'm sorry,

1832
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 7: what is Mark? Seems like you don't there? We go

1833
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 7: here that ten okay.

1834
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: If there's a question on every NFL team, we'll give

1835
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: you the answers and more where Fox Sportsney coming up

1836
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 2: right here next. If your team has a question and

1837
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: we'll answer it, that's right around the corner.

1838
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody.

1839
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Aready. He

1840
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and we're broadcasting live

1841
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,120
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Speaker 2: tire buying should be. And I want to make a

1846
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: public apology to my friend and part of Bucky Brooks.

1847
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 2: I sometimes feel that I lean on you too much

1848
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: because I'm so stupid. I have to ask so many

1849
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: questions in the world of football. So I apologize to

1850
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: you that I put so much pressure on you. I

1851
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: hope you're not upset with me. I hope you're not.

1852
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: No, please, no.

1853
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 3: Fresh at all. I enjoy it. I enjoy it all.

1854
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it you.

1855
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: I love working with you. But you know that I'm

1856
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like between the years, you know the week,

1857
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. It's a nice way

1858
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: of saying, not as intelligent as you in the world

1859
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: as football. You've been here, You've been there, done that,

1860
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: you played the game. I learned so much from you.

1861
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: So that that's why I want to apologize. Because I

1862
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: sometimes ask you questions and you probably think they're stupid,

1863
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: but maybe most of the general public thinks are the

1864
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: same questions I do. I don't know, but that's why

1865
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: you're here, and I love having you here. But we'll

1866
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: talk about the NFL. The season opens in just a

1867
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: matter of days right now, and I gotta believe fans know.

1868
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: Fans know if their team is going to be a

1869
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: competitor or loser. Fans know in New York that it's

1870
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: all about Aaron Rodgers and the jete. If Aaron's hurt,

1871
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: if it doesn't play well, they ain't gonna win, okay,

1872
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: And coaches know, don't coaches know, Bucket Brooks, don't they know,

1873
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 2: but they won't admit it that their team doesn't have

1874
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: much of a chance. Don't they know that there's Kevin

1875
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: O'Connell of Minnesota. No, that doesn't have a real good

1876
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: shot with Sam Donald right now?

1877
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: Does he know that?

1878
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 4: WHOA, that's what we think. We thinking this Sam Donald

1879
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 4: doesn't give them a chance to win, that they.

1880
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 3: Should already pack it up.

1881
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 4: No. I think what coaches do is I think coaches

1882
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 4: are always on the optimistic side of well, the great

1883
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 4: coaches are what can I do to put my team

1884
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 4: in a position to win?

1885
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: How can I.

1886
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 4: Either change the pieces of the puzzle, change the way

1887
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 4: that we play. How can I find a way tactically

1888
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 4: to put myself in a position to be in the

1889
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 4: game in the fourth quarter. And even though you don't

1890
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 4: have the personnel we've seen in the league, the National

1891
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 4: Football League, the Sunday League, any given Sunday, you have

1892
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 4: an opportunity, the margin of error that the talent discrepancy

1893
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 4: is never that significant where you can't win.

1894
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of can you the field in

1895
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: your favor.

1896
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the players right now. I'm looking

1897
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: at the media in and.

1898
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: Around Cincinnati right now and I laugh at it. It's

1899
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: fun it's a fun thing to do, but it's a

1900
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: meaningless task. It's a waste of time. They're telling everybody

1901
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: what the Bengals are going to do. One guy says

1902
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: they'll do ten and seven. One guy says they'll finish

1903
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: eleven and sixth. And it's such a foolish thing to

1904
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: do because there's so many factors involved, including injuries, and

1905
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: right now their offensive line is going down like flies.

1906
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:53,839
Speaker 1: But what about the players.

1907
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: Do they look at the schedule and as they enter

1908
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: the season and they say, you know, you think we

1909
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: could eke out seven and wins eight wins.

1910
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: You've been on many teams.

1911
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 2: I mean, do they do that before the season, look

1912
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 2: at the schedule and pick out the games that they

1913
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win.

1914
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you may look at a schedule and kind

1915
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 3: of see.

1916
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 4: How it lines up for you, but you never know, man,

1917
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 4: because you don't know until teams start playing how good

1918
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 4: they're really going to be. You look for certain things

1919
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 4: where you may have an idea, Okay, this is gonna

1920
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 4: be a difficult stretch around for us. You know, we

1921
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 4: may have to tighten it up and got to figure

1922
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 4: out a way to navigate these three games in eleven

1923
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 4: days and those things. But you don't go into it

1924
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 4: chalking up dubs and ls. You try and figure out

1925
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: what can I do to put my team in the

1926
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 4: best position during this stretch and.

1927
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 3: You hope that it works out in your favor.

1928
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 4: But it's an ongoing thing because you don't know how

1929
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 4: your team is going to be at any part of

1930
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 4: the year in terms of injuries, rhythm, chemistry, all of

1931
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 4: that stuff.

1932
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 2: All right, So you're a member of the Carolina Panthers.

1933
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: They were horrendous last year, they were terrible, and you're

1934
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna camp this year. In the back of your mind,

1935
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, certainly there's a a lot of pressure for

1936
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: them to win. They got a new coach and they

1937
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: got their second year quarterback coming in there. You know,

1938
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 2: do you really believe you got a chance to go

1939
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: to the playoffs?

1940
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: Honestly?

1941
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you just want to be somewhat competitive and

1942
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: maybe if you could reach the five hundred level. You

1943
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: know what you can't do because they play seventeen games,

1944
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: But if you can win eight nine games, there'll be

1945
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: a tremendous season. I mean, isn't that the way it is?

1946
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: If you a remember of the Panthers right now.

1947
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean you gotta crawl before you can walk,

1948
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 4: before you can run. If you're the Panthers and you're

1949
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 4: coming from a situation where they were coming from, you're

1950
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 4: Dave Canalis, the first thing you're trying to do is

1951
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 4: ask them stability, identify the players that are your core players.

1952
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 4: Teach the team how to play the way that you

1953
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 4: see fit in terms of your version of the right way. Okay,

1954
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 4: once you get them doing that, now let's consistently begin

1955
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 4: to practice and prepare so we can have those kinds

1956
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 4: of results each and every Sunday, whether the wins come

1957
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 4: or out, but how we play that matters. And then

1958
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 4: you begin to stack on top of it. But you

1959
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 4: go into the season with an open because no one

1960
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: really knows how it's going to play out. We've seen

1961
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 4: teams every year they're five or six new participants in

1962
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Some of those teams we had no expectations

1963
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 4: of them being there. For instance, the Houston Texans last year.

1964
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 4: No one expected CJ. Stroud and that team to be

1965
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 4: a playoff team. You know that as a team that

1966
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 4: could win games. But c J start coms, they get hot,

1967
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 4: they go and there they are in the playoffs and

1968
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 4: they win a playoff game. You're keeping out open mind,

1969
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 4: You're working toward the vision that you have for the team,

1970
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 4: and you just keep stacking days and you see what

1971
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 4: it looks like at the end of the year.

1972
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 2: Would you say, I mean, you're a sportsman, You're a

1973
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 2: big Dodger fan, you love baseball, and you follow all sports.

1974
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: But would you think that in football, is it the

1975
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: best opportunity for Team A to be team being any

1976
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: single day? When I say that because I look at

1977
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: last year when the Raiders beat the Chiefs.

1978
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: That was a big day.

1979
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: That was unless the Chiefs just you know, kind of

1980
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 2: set to themselves. I mean they look at the uniform,

1981
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, the players look at the uniform of the

1982
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: opposition and say, you know, we should have a rollover today.

1983
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: I'm sure players do that. It's a psychological deal. I

1984
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: mean you just look at certain teams just say you

1985
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 2: look at the standings, look at their one loss record,

1986
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 2: and look at the uniform, say we don't need to

1987
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: get up for this team.

1988
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna win. And they didn't. I mean, the Raiders

1989
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs and that was a big win for

1990
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: the Raiders last year.

1991
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: It was a big win for the Raiders last year.

1992
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 4: You would like to think that everyone can get up

1993
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 4: to take everybody with the same kind of approach that

1994
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 4: he they're nameless, faceless people that some coaches would talk about,

1995
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 4: but it's impossible to do that. What you hope is

1996
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 4: they have enough maturity to handle their business when it's

1997
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 4: an opportunity to play the game. And it doesn't always

1998
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 4: look the way that you wanted to look, but it's

1999
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 4: the maturity that you talk about. Hey man, let's go

2000
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 4: in here, let's take care of business. We're better than

2001
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 4: this team. Let's finish them. And the good teams are

2002
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 4: able to do that. The teams that are up and

2003
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 4: down when it comes to their preparation and process, they're

2004
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 4: the ones that have tougher times winning those games that

2005
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 4: they should win.

2006
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: You know.

2007
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: And also we talked about this early on. I think

2008
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: there is something to be said about getting off to

2009
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: a good start and winning early, you know. And again,

2010
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, they say preseason games, exhibition games don't mean

2011
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 2: much just looking at talent evaluation things like that. I disagree.

2012
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: If that's the case, they wouldn't keep score. I think

2013
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: it means something when you lose. I mean, I look

2014
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: at the Cincinnati Bengals as the team in my negative woods.

2015
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 2: They're all and two already, and they've always traditionally in

2016
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: the last several years gotten off the slow starts. I

2017
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: think last day they started two and five.

2018
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: You just can't do that.

2019
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: You can't be competitive if you have a slow start.

2020
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: And it all starts in training camp. That's what it does.

2021
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: It really does.

2022
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does start in training camp, and it starts

2023
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Committing to the grind of

2024
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 4: training camp, but also making sure that you do the

2025
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 4: little things each day to put yourself in a position

2026
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 4: to be in games late. You want to be playing

2027
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 4: your best football down the stretch. And as much as

2028
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 4: all of us like as CO, which is are people

2029
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 4: that are in the game want a team to go

2030
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 4: eleven and oh or twelve and oh or seventeen and

2031
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 4: oh whatever, it's not about that. It's who can play

2032
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 4: the best football in November, December, January. So the first

2033
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 4: part of the season is to figure out who you

2034
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 4: are as a team and how do I need to

2035
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 4: play with this set of players that I have to

2036
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 4: put us in a position to be at our best

2037
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 4: down the stretch. That's what coaches are doing the first

2038
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 4: eight or so weeks of the season. They're experimenting, they're seeing,

2039
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 4: they're identifying. We thought it was going to be this,

2040
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 4: but now we have to play like this. Okay, now

2041
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 4: we got the formula.

2042
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: Now let's put it into play and let's get better

2043
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 3: at doing what we need to do to win games.

2044
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 3: That's how it goes, and so you just don't know.

2045
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: And that's why the National Football League get so great

2046
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 4: because teams come out of nowhere and it's just which

2047
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 4: is the hottest team at the right time to get

2048
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 4: it going.

2049
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: You know, you said something early on which I think

2050
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: is worth repeating the fact that you like what Andy

2051
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Reid does in the preseason. He plays his regulars, he

2052
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: plays his starters because they getting game ready shape so

2053
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: when they get into the season, they're ready to go.

2054
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: They don't have to get the rust off the first

2055
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 2: two three weeks of the season. And we want to

2056
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: know why other coaches don't do that.

2057
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, really, and you.

2058
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 2: Said early on, they did it when McVeigh kind of

2059
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: put his starters in in preseason several years ago, and

2060
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: he won that way, and other coaches kind of followed suit.

2061
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 2: It's just one of those like a copycat league. I

2062
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: just don't understand why other coaches don't do that. And

2063
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: we'll bring up another factor. Back in the day, and

2064
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, and I kind

2065
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: of remembered a little bit, but back in the day,

2066
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: instead of playing three preseason games, I remember when they

2067
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: played six.

2068
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they played six preseason games.

2069
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's way too many preseason games. I

2070
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 3: remember it was.

2071
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 2: It was a lot, but they did played. I remember

2072
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 2: when they played six and they had two a days.

2073
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: When when Paul Brown was coaching the Cincinnati Bengals and

2074
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,799
Speaker 2: they practiced up in Wilmington, Ohio, they played six preseason games,

2075
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: and I think that got team's game ready when the

2076
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: season started. I mean they were playing. There was no

2077
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: talk about holding regulars out back then, six preseason games.

2078
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: You'll went out and I'm sure Paul Brown may he

2079
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: rest in peace, he went out there said we're gonna

2080
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: win all these games.

2081
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: That's what it was. It's a different mindset now. I

2082
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: think things are reason also that.

2083
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, But I will also say the difference is

2084
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 4: they also didn't have off season programs. So when you

2085
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: go back to those teams that didn't do that, like

2086
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 4: training camp was the time that they got everybody into shape.

2087
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 4: And so you're talking about what six to eight week

2088
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 4: training camp where they're starting from scratching, they're building you up.

2089
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 3: It's a different time. There are ways to do it.

2090
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that you got to pound on

2091
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 4: your players the entire time to get them ready, but.

2092
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 3: You got to get them sharpened a little bit.

2093
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,919
Speaker 4: They got to play a little little taste to understand

2094
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 4: what is what is going to be needed to be

2095
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 4: to be a winner. And sometimes that requires them to

2096
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 4: play a little more. Sometimes it's about less, but you

2097
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta play a little bit to get ready

2098
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 4: for it.

2099
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: No, I understand. I mean it's again I mentioned this

2100
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 2: early on. If you're a boxer, you better get some

2101
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 2: prelimited bouts in before you go to the championshipt. You

2102
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: just can't go in there and fight with anything else.

2103
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know baseball players that spring training, I

2104
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: mean it's it's mandatory. You got to get in shape.

2105
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's your body and you have to play.

2106
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: But right now, it's an entirely different animal. I mean,

2107
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: they want to eliminate preseason games. There's only three of

2108
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 2: them right now. And honestly, I read these reports on

2109
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 2: the preseason games like they only had like twenty three

2110
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 2: guys suiting up in one team the other day the

2111
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 2: regulars aren't playing. I mean, how is Aaron Rodgers going

2112
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 2: to get in shape if he doesn't take a snap

2113
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: in preseason?

2114
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean really, now, it's different though, so and the

2115
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 3: reason why I can, I'll say it is this.

2116
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 4: Okay, So I was lucky enough to play for the

2117
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills right on the heels of there when they

2118
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 4: went to four straight Super Bowls.

2119
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 3: So it's ninety four.

2120
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: That team we want had gone to four straight Super Bowls,

2121
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 4: had dominated the AFC, and when I went to training camp,

2122
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 4: it was it was my first exposure to pro training

2123
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 4: camp in man. I would say, in my experience, it

2124
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: was almost country club like in terms of the way

2125
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 4: they got together, didn't really put the pads on, wasn't

2126
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 4: a very physical camp, really took care of the players.

2127
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 4: Maybe they practiced for an hour and a half and

2128
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 4: then they were off the field. But it was a

2129
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 4: mature team that it played a lot had won a

2130
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 4: lot and had enjoyed these long postseason runs under Hall

2131
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 4: of Fame coach and Marv Levy, and so you see

2132
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 4: them operate that way.

2133
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 3: I didn't go to Green Bay.

2134
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 4: I played for Mike Holmgeran, who came from the San

2135
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 4: Francisco way of doing things, which was similar. It was

2136
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 4: more about the mental than the physical. Hey, let's get ready,

2137
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 4: there's a pace to practice. Let's bounce around. We'll start

2138
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 4: with pads on, we'll go through our nine oh seven

2139
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 4: run period. Then we're gonna blow to whist. So take

2140
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 4: your paths off and now it's about the execution, running

2141
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 4: around doing it. I played for Marty Schottenheimer, who should

2142
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: be in the Hall of Fame because he has two

2143
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 4: hundred regular season wins. And it was a physical, slobber

2144
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 4: knocker practice session every day when you beat people up whatever,

2145
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 4: and it was a physical affair.

2146
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 3: All of those coaches won, and one at a high level,

2147
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 3: but they all took different approaches.

2148
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's your philosophy that messes well with the players

2149
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 4: that you have and they buy into a man, we're

2150
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 4: a little grinded out. Other Times you go somewhere and

2151
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 4: it just doesn't work out. For Andy Reid, his approaches worked,

2152
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 4: just like Sean mcvay's approaches work. I think the most

2153
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,919
Speaker 4: important thing as a coach, you got to be authentic

2154
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 4: to what you believe in and what you believe works

2155
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: for you. You can't be somebody else, and so you

2156
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 4: got to experiment and figure out what works for the

2157
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 4: type of player that you have and then roll with

2158
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 4: it that way.

2159
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, but I picked up on

2160
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Speaker 2: something that we mentioned this. Sometimes you practice with the

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Speaker 2: pads on, sometimes you practice with pads off. I never

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01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 2: understood that as well, And again I never played the

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01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: game the next time I suit up here the first

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01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 2: time I saw, I wouldn't even know how.

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Speaker 1: To put the pads on. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: but if you're going to play with pads and show

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01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: the pads on in a game, why wouldn't you play

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Speaker 1: with them on in practice because you need to wear

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Speaker 1: them in the game. Why not practice with what you're

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01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: to play with during the game, right?

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01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 4: Well, the physicality in contact. If you beat your people

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01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 4: up during the week, they may not have anything left

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01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 4: for when you need them on Sunday. But most importantly,

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01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 4: the most importantly, the CBA has restricted how many padded

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01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 4: practices you can have during the course of the regular season.

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Speaker 4: I think the old CBA you only used could have

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01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 4: fourteen padded practices the entire season.

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Speaker 3: So you had to pick and choose when you.

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01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 4: Would use those padded or physical practices throughout the course

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01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 4: of the year and then maybe the last four to

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01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 4: six weeks. You can't put the pads on. You have

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01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 4: to do it in a different way where it's more

2183
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 4: we're moving around, we're mentally, we're going through walkthroughs and

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01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,759
Speaker 4: those things as opposed to the grind of playing football.

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Speaker 3: So there are ways to do it.

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01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 4: You have to teach you the guys have to practice,

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 4: because the most important thing about practice is the execution,

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01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 4: the pace and the rhythm, and then staying up because

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01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 4: you don't want to get your guys hurting practice because

2190
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 4: you're reckless and careless with the physicality in those things.

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01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 4: So a lot of it is teaching guys how to practice,

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01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 4: teaching them how to stay up, getting them to go fast,

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01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 4: but letting up, operating at what they call thud tempo

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01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 4: where you make a initial contact but then you let

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01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 4: you guys go. A lot of those those things are taught,

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01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 4: and so good coaches start teaching those things in the

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01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: off season in terms of here's how our practice has

2198
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 4: to go so I can take care of you to

2199
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: make sure that you can be around all seventeen games.

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01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: The great Paul Brown is in the Hall of Fame

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01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: as a tremendous coach and founder of the Cincinnti Bengals

2203
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 2: and coached in Cleveland at the Cleveland Browns. He said

2204
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 2: that he only practiced for forty five minutes. He said

2205
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: he got everything done in forty five minutes, and maybe

2206
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: they did two days back in the day, but he

2207
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 2: did it in forty five minutes, and these guys are

2208
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 2: doing an hour and a half two hours. I think

2209
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Speaker 2: that comes a little diminishing returns.

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Speaker 4: Also, well, if you go back and you study the grace, right,

2211
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 4: so Vince Lombardi practice about seventy five minutes, and those

2212
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 4: first fifteen minutes were conditioning, and they would do like

2213
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 4: you just go back and look at those old films

2214
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 4: and you'll see his guys running laps and doing everything

2215
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 4: because conditioning was a big part of what he believed

2216
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 4: in when it came to winning games. But I think

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01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 4: Paul Brown, I think Vince Lombardi. I think a lot

2218
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: of those guys were right when it comes to how

2219
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 4: to get their team ready. Hey, let's be efficient, let's

2220
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 4: get in and out, let's do what we need to

2221
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 4: do and then move on to the next thing.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, it really is.

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01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's such a scientific situation, it really is.

2224
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 2: And I think players know if a coach is real

2225
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 2: or not. What I mean by that, you would know

2226
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: that Marv Levy would be faking it if he started

2227
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 2: yelling and cussing. That's not him, Tony Dungee, that's not

2228
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: cuss right, So you got to be yourself and I

2229
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: think players know that.

2230
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: You'll say, what's this guy doing? But you know, just

2231
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, Forrest Greg when he coached CINCINNTI Bengals, I mean,

2232
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: meeting was frightened for me to go. You go into

2233
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: a news conference with that guy, He'd bite your head off.

2234
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: It's just the way Forest Greg was and the players knew.

2235
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 1: They responded to it as well.

2236
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 4: You know, more character quality. You have to be authentic

2237
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 4: with the players. You can't be someone that you're not

2238
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 4: because they'll see through it.

2239
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 3: Every day. They want to know that you're going to

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Speaker 3: be consistent.

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01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 4: So when you show up, if you're not your authentic self,

2242
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna have more inconsistencies in terms of how you

2243
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 4: handle things. If you show up good, batter and different.

2244
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 4: If you're a yelling, screaming and that's who you are,

2245
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 4: you need to be that every day. But you can't

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01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 4: be he I'm gonna be the teacher type. I'ma be

2247
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 4: the Tony Dungee type on one day and then I'm

2248
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 4: gonna be the Volidi lunatic the next day.

2249
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 3: Like that doesn't work for your team. They're gonna tune

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Speaker 3: you out.

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Speaker 4: So you just have to You have to figure out

2252
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 4: who you are, and you have to coach to your personality.

2253
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 4: And if you coach to your personality, then you always

2254
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 4: have a chance to success because the guys know that

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Speaker 4: the person standing in the front of the room is

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Speaker 4: a person that's going to be that same way each

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Speaker 4: and every day.

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Speaker 2: my friend here, Bucky Brooks. You know a lot of

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Speaker 2: these people pick these standings prior to the season. They say,

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Speaker 2: where's the team's going to finish in each division? You know,

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Speaker 2: what's the record gonna be. I think it's a waste

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Speaker 2: of time.

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Speaker 1: I think the better thing to do, and maybe I'm wrong,

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01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: but you could tell me is to go look at

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01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: every team.

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Speaker 2: And one of the big question marks, what's the Achilles

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01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: heel for each team in the National Football League? And

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01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 2: I know, Bucky Brooks, you have them. I have a couple.

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01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down the list, and I did say

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01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 2: for one of them, one is all about the rust

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01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 2: on a quarterback and that's gonna be the Cleveland Browns.

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01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 2: You know, if Deshaun Watson is he ever going to

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01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 2: regain his pro bowl level form? That's the big question.

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01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 2: Twelve games as a Browns quarterback, his completion racing rating

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01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: is under sixty percent the hots per game but one

2312
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: to eighty okay, pass the rating about eighty percent, well

2313
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 2: below marks in four seasons that he had when he

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01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 2: played in Houston. Can he get back to the level.

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01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 2: That's gotta be the big question, I guess for the

2316
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Anything else for Cleveland, No.

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Speaker 4: It's all about Deshaun Watson because they have a team

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01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 4: that's talented enough to be at the top of the

2319
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 4: charts in the AFC. But the quarterback has to play

2320
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 4: at the level that everyone expected him to play when

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01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 4: he came over from Houston. Well, we also have to

2322
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 4: understand with him, he may never get back there when

2323
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 4: you think about the long layoff and the rust.

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01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 3: He didn't play his final season in Houston.

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Speaker 4: He then had this suspension that kept him from playing

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01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 4: when he first got to Cleveland. Last season, he played

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01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 4: a handful of games and he was injured. So in

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01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 4: three years, we really haven't seen Deshaun Watson. It's hard

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01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 4: to keep your game up at a high level when

2330
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,759
Speaker 4: you haven't played that long. They changed the offensive coordinator,

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01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 4: Can doors He comes in, so that may help him

2332
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 4: as Ken Doorssey builds an offense around Deshaun Watson's talents.

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01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 4: But I think it's hard to expect him to get

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01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 4: back to that Pro Bowl form until we see him

2335
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 4: play at a Pro Bowl level. It's been three years,

2336
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 4: three years since we've seen him play at that level.

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01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 4: We can't assume that he's ever gonna get back to

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01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 4: that level.

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01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: Wow, that's big. That's a big deal for Cleveland, it

2340
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: really is.

2341
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 2: And speaking of quarterbacks, I think the question mark obviously

2342
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 2: in Arizona, it's got to be the quarterback as well.

2343
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: With Kyler Murray.

2344
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Okay played in eight games last year, but he played

2345
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 2: in those eight games after that knee injury. And right

2346
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 2: now he's got Marvin Harrison Junr. But is he going

2347
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 2: to be an ad to Marvin Harrison Jr. Can he play?

2348
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

2349
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna have a big rookie year.

2350
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 2: I've gotta believe he will do that, But is it

2351
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,839
Speaker 2: going to be because of Kyler Murray. So again, quarterback

2352
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 2: question in Arizona, quarterback question in Cleveland. Do you agree

2353
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 2: on the Arizona situation?

2354
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think there's some questions about caller

2355
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 4: Murray just in coming back and what this offense looks

2356
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 4: like with him fully back? Can Marvin Harrison Junior and

2357
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson because Michael Wilson is a young player that

2358
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 4: they have high hope so on can they create enough

2359
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 4: in the passing game to force teams to defend them

2360
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 4: differently and maybe create some room in the running game

2361
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 4: and control of the clock and those things. Team played

2362
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 4: better than Anticipator under Jonathan Gannon. But now second year

2363
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 4: in how does the coach get the quarterback and his

2364
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 4: number one target, Marvin Harrison Junior to play at an

2365
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 4: elite level? Because if they play as an elite level,

2366
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 4: it gives this team an opportunity to build an identity offensively,

2367
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 4: and then that makes it easier to build a complimentary

2368
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 4: package around what they do.

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01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: You know, you talk about quarterbacks and obviously if there's

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01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 2: a question mark on a team, basically point the finger

2371
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 2: at the quarterback. Now looking at the NFC South, which

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01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: is not one of the stronger divisions in the National

2373
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 2: Football League, and the Atlanta Falcons have not won that

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Speaker 2: title in that division since twenty sixteen. Kirk Cousins is

2375
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 2: the guy if he's healthy, because he's coming up an

2376
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 2: injury as well. He could help the Atlanta Falcons get

2377
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 2: over the hump and give them that title. But now

2378
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 2: the question is is it going to be Kirk Cousins

2379
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 2: or is Michael Pennox June You're going to push him

2380
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 2: out of a job.

2381
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 3: No, I think it's opposite. It is Kirk Cousins.

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01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: I do think it's weird that Michael Pennick Junior isn't

2383
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 4: playing anymore in the preseason. As valuable as it is

2384
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 4: to have your guy ready to go, he still should

2385
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 4: be able to You still want to get him ready.

2386
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 3: For the pro game.

2387
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 4: And Rayanie Moore said he saw enough in the first

2388
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 4: game to keep Michael Pennix on the sideline. So it

2389
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 4: just means they have a lot of confidence in the

2390
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 4: young quarterback, but also they have a lot of confidence

2391
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 4: in Kirk Cousins. They just want to make sure they

2392
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 4: have an insurance policy in place to take care of

2393
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 4: the quarterback. With Kirk Cousins, though, the Falcons should play better.

2394
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 4: They made a recent trade to get Matthew Judon. Defensively,

2395
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 4: they should be good. Justin Simmons comes over as a

2396
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 4: last minute addition as a free agent to go with

2397
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 4: Jesse Bates. Quietly, the Atlanta Falcons have put together a

2398
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 4: nice roster, they have a new coach. The expectation is

2399
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 4: that they should win. They should roll right to the division.

2400
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 4: They should win the division. If I'm looking at the

2401
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 4: talent them compared to others, to the most talented team,

2402
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 4: they should be the best team in the division.

2403
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, you know he those are question marks

2404
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 2: obviously with Cleveland, Arizona and Aadana. I'm looking at the

2405
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens right now. I don't think it's a major question.

2406
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a situation. What I have to work

2407
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: it out.

2408
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: What do I mean by that?

2409
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, to me, it is great. I love Lamar

2410
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 2: Jackson MVP last year. But right now he's gonna have

2411
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: the best running back on his ball club that he's

2412
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 2: ever had, and that's in Derreck Henry. But Derek Henrys

2413
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 2: thirty years of age. He's not going to get thirty

2414
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 2: carries a game. I don't think, But can the offense

2415
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 2: structure and attack that can get Derreck Henry involved, you know,

2416
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 2: in the best position for them to succeed. That's the

2417
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:40,759
Speaker 2: question right there. Can Lamar Jackson work congruently with Derrick Henry?

2418
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 2: Is that is that a major problem? You think, Well,

2419
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 2: they'll work that out.

2420
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 3: I think they can work it out. I think they

2421
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 3: can figure it out. The main thing that they have

2422
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 3: to do is.

2423
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 4: What is the best way to make sure that both

2424
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 4: of those guys are available during the stretch run. So

2425
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 4: we talked about having you playing your best football in

2426
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 4: November December. How can Baltimore Ravens build an offensive package

2427
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 4: that allows them to lean into the Lamar Jackson Derek

2428
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 4: Henry combination in noveverm in December? That might mean preserve

2429
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry early a little load management, don't wear them out.

2430
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 4: Let's try and keep the carries to under fifteen or

2431
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 4: so a game and then slowly ramp it up as

2432
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,719
Speaker 4: we get to the part of the year that really matters.

2433
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 4: Just down the end, it's a dangerous team with Derrick

2434
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 4: Henry and Lamar Jackson and the thought of all the

2435
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 4: things that they can do in the ring game. You

2436
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 4: just want to make sure that you got them all

2437
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 4: available and ready to go.

2438
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, we're going to continue with this.

2439
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 2: So he is, he's my man, Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy

2440
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: Firmore with Fox Sports Sunny and Fox Sport's Ready. And

2441
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 2: by the way, shortly after the show, our podcast will

2442
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,240
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2443
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2444
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2445
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2446
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2447
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 2: see this show Fox Sports Sunday right after we get

2448
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 2: off THEA. Now, can losing be contagious for at least

2449
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 2: one team? For at least one team? That's coming up

2450
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 2: next live from the Tirack dot Com studios. But first,

2451
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 2: here's a guy who's never a loser, Kevin Wyatt, with

2452
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 2: all you four.

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01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 6: Well, Unfortunately for the Dodgers, they couldn't have said that

2454
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 6: much of the last couple of weeks as they've really

2455
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 6: sputtered in the NL West. So their lead now down

2456
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 6: to just two games. They lost to the Saint Louis

2457
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 6: Cardinals five to two, the Padres picking up a game

2458
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 6: in the standings after an eight three win at Colorado,

2459
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 6: so the Dodgers lead San Diego by two games. The

2460
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 6: Diamondbacks have been red hot coming out of the All

2461
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 6: Star Break, but they're only able to get the win

2462
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 6: on Saturday following the race six to one. So the

2463
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 6: Dodgers lead San Diego by two Arizona by three, but

2464
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,759
Speaker 6: the Pods and Snakes both hold the top two wildcard spots.

2465
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 6: The Atlanta Braves occupy the third and final wildcard spot

2466
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 6: in the National League. They are a game ahead of

2467
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 6: the Mets. The Braves did beat the Angels eleven to three,

2468
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 6: but the Mets did keep pace with a four to

2469
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 6: nothing shutout of the Miami Marlins. As for the American League,

2470
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 6: the Guardians lead now just two two games. They fall

2471
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,919
Speaker 6: to the Brewers two to one, while the Twins take advantage.

2472
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 6: They pick up a game by beating the Rangers at

2473
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 6: Arlington five to two, so Cleveland's lead over Minnesota is

2474
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 6: two games. The Kansas City Royals currently occupy the final

2475
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 6: wildcard spot. They're ahead by two and a half games.

2476
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,560
Speaker 6: They got a thirteen to one win against the Cincinnati

2477
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 6: Reds the AL East, it's still the Yankees ahead by

2478
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,759
Speaker 6: a game, as both Baltimore and the New York Yankees

2479
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 6: losing on Saturday, the Bronx Bombers held to just four

2480
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 6: hits by the Tigers as a Detroit wins at four nothing,

2481
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 6: the Red Sox taking care of the Orioles five to one.

2482
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 6: And in the American League West, the Mariners seem to

2483
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 6: be in the driver's seat for much of the season,

2484
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 6: but they've been in free fall of late. They've lost

2485
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 6: five straight games six of their last ten, including a

2486
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 6: seven to two defeat to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Meanwhile, the

2487
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 6: Houston Astros getting a win against the White Sox six

2488
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 6: to one, so their lead in the AL West increases

2489
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 6: to four games. In the NFL preseason, Caleb Williams getting

2490
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 6: his first touchdown a seven yard run. Passing wise, he

2491
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,600
Speaker 6: was six of thirteen for seventy five yards on the

2492
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 6: day as the Bears do beat the Bengals twenty seven

2493
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 6: to three. Steelers though, man, they could kill for some

2494
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 6: good quarterback play right now after what they saw on

2495
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 6: Saturday from Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. One hundred and

2496
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 6: thirteen yards combined by those two quarterbacks as the Steelers

2497
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 6: not getting anything going on offense, as the Bills do

2498
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 6: win this one at nine to three. Daniel Jones coming

2499
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 6: back from a torn ecl and really struggled in his

2500
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 6: first game action as the Texans roll over the Giants

2501
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 6: twenty eight ten. Jones with two interceptions, including a pick six.

2502
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 6: Back to you guys, thanks keV All. Right, now, it

2503
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 6: is one big question for the Super Bowl winners.

2504
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Hey just about a minute.

2505
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 2: Of course, he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we

2506
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 2: have Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio the blame

2507
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 2: game in about seven eight minutes for now, and I

2508
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: want to talk about those Super whether that's the Kansas

2509
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 2: City Chiefs. Obviously that they can't be the Detroit Lions.

2510
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 2: They lost again yesterday, what third twenty four to twenty three.

2511
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 2: But the big question here, we talked about question marks

2512
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 2: of various teams coming into the season. I think the

2513
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 2: question mark has to be Rushie Rice, the second year

2514
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 2: wide receiver. He did catch four passes from Patrick Mahomes yesterday,

2515
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 2: but there's a situation there with a suspension on the

2516
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 2: horizon for that street racing thing he did back in March.

2517
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: What have you heard of anything about him being suspended?

2518
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 2: And if he is, that's going to put a big

2519
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 2: cloud over the Kansas City Chiefs.

2520
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 3: It's gone away. No one has talked about it, like.

2521
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 1: I know, no one's going about it.

2522
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,440
Speaker 3: No one has talked about Rashi Rice. They haven't talked about.

2523
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 4: Any of the impending suspensions or off field transgressions that

2524
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 4: he's been involved in. It's almost as if it didn't

2525
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 4: happen once to see if he got here.

2526
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

2527
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 4: Like I'm sure they're counting on him to be the

2528
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 4: number one receiver, to be their number one playmaker, and

2529
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,759
Speaker 4: they're going to bring in Xavier Worthy and with Hollywood

2530
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 4: Brown being out, they really need Rashi Rice to be

2531
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 4: available and to be a major piece of this offensive puzzle.

2532
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 4: But you just don't know because it has gone very

2533
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 4: very I mean eerily quiet in regards to the suspension

2534
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 4: or any punishment or anything that could be on the

2535
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 4: way for Rashi Rice.

2536
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 3: And you know, I guess no news is good news

2537
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs.

2538
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 4: But at some point you have to think there's a

2539
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 4: day of reckoning that's coming when it comes to Rice

2540
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 4: and his issues.

2541
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm with you right there, but I'd like to see

2542
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: it go away, but I don't think it will, all right.

2543
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I mentioned this question coming up to the sevement.

2544
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 2: Can losing be contagious for one team? And I'm talking

2545
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: about the Jackson with Jaguars. I mean, they lost five

2546
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 2: of the last six games, and they were on the

2547
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 2: outside looking when the playoffs started last year. And I

2548
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 2: know they signed Trevor Lawrence to a big five year

2549
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 2: deal in the offseason. But this losing situation, I mean,

2550
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 2: like you say, it's like a.

2551
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Like a habit.

2552
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 2: This habit for me, I mean, can Doug Peterson turn

2553
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 2: it around because you lose five out of six? You know,

2554
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: you end the season with that tastes in your mouth?

2555
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 2: Can that pick up? I mean, I don't know. I

2556
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 2: mean you would have the answer to that. But I

2557
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: think if there's a question on that ball club, that's

2558
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 2: the question. Is losing contagious and the way they ended

2559
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 2: the season not unlike the Philadelphia Eagles. Can that roll

2560
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:17,759
Speaker 2: into the next season?

2561
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 4: It can if you allow it to, or it can

2562
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 4: lead you to make changes that allow you to bounce

2563
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 4: back and be a better team going forward because you

2564
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 4: learn from those painful losses that you suffered down the stretch.

2565
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 4: For Doug Peterson and the Jags, I would say they've

2566
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 4: learned from it, they benefited from it, and you will

2567
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 4: see a more connected and cohesive team. I think it

2568
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 4: also when you lose the way that you lose, five

2569
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 4: down out of six, you now have to examine the

2570
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 4: entire operation, from your exes and o's, to the players

2571
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 4: that you have in the locker room, to the connection

2572
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 4: that you have with the front office. All of those

2573
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 4: things have been evaluated. All those things have I would say,

2574
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 4: going through the pressure and the stress of having that

2575
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 4: self evaluation, and you try to make changes to put

2576
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 4: the team in the best position in this best position

2577
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 4: to play and flourish down the stretch. I think if

2578
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 4: you've seen them play in the preseason, there's a different

2579
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 4: vibe and energy around the team. But now that it

2580
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 4: really matters until you get to the regular season. The

2581
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 4: Jaguars have to play better. They have to put together

2582
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 4: beyond just winning. They have to get used to competing

2583
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 4: at a high level. And the only time that you're

2584
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 4: going to be able to really see if they bounce

2585
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 4: back and learn those lessons when they kick it off

2586
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 4: in the regular season begins.

2587
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 2: Okay, you talk about a team with a question mark,

2588
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 2: a team with everybody's pointing fingers out, obviously looking at

2589
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: Dallas as a team because they haven't signed big three

2590
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 2: players over there. But I think another team right there

2591
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 2: with question mark is the Buffalo Bills, and I think

2592
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 2: that the graft right now on that team is pointing downward.

2593
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 2: And one of the big reasons is they decided to

2594
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: trade four time Pro bowler Stefan Diggs.

2595
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 1: So what does that do?

2596
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 2: That puts a lot of pressure on Josh Allen. You're

2597
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 2: going to see right now who made whom? Okay, did

2598
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 2: Josh Allen make Stephan Diggs? I don't think so. Did

2599
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs help make Josh a better quarterback? So we're

2600
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 2: gonna see what happens. Who's going to be his receiver?

2601
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure on him with the new

2602
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: cast of past catchers on that ball club.

2603
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of pressure on Josh

2604
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 4: Allen to make your work. I mean, you've heard the

2605
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:19,640
Speaker 4: conversation like people have acted like Stefan Diggs was a

2606
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 4: handful to deal with. But I do know four straight

2607
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 4: one thousand yard seasons walked out the door, and they

2608
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 4: don't have a viable replacement right now. You're hoping that

2609
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 4: the young player Kenyon Coleman can do that. You're hoping

2610
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 4: that Dalgon kin Kid and Dawson Knox Skin anchor the

2611
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 4: passing game as they go more too tight end sets.

2612
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 4: But you don't know because you don't have a number one.

2613
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 4: And I would say also lost in the conversation about

2614
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 4: the Bills, you not only lost Stefan.

2615
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Diggs, you lost Gabe Davis.

2616
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 4: Gave David signs with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and even though

2617
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 4: you know he was the number two wide receiver, he

2618
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 4: had at least six touchdowns in each of the four

2619
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 4: seasons he was with the Bills. He averaged over sixteen

2620
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 4: yards per catch, so he was the explosive, big play maker.

2621
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 4: You lost your top two eyes in terms of what

2622
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 4: anchored your passing game. You have to hope that those

2623
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 4: other guys can do it. And so it puts a

2624
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on Josh Allen to do what we

2625
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 4: will call the Pat Mahomes thing. Can you elevate a

2626
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 4: cast of unheralded pass catchers and make them play at

2627
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 4: a level that allows you to play playoffootball and championship

2628
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 4: caliber football.

2629
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 3: Did go?

2630
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to roll over now to the Houston Texans

2631
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: because obviously that's what Stephan Diggs is and they also

2632
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 2: have Joe Mixons.

2633
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 1: So we have CJ.

2634
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 2: Stroud, who is a top rookie in every major pissing

2635
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 2: category last year and he was the NFL Offensive Rookie

2636
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 2: of the Year. Now he's got some more firepower with

2637
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon the running back of Stephan Diggs, that makes

2638
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 2: them even more I mean, I don't think there's many

2639
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: questions on that team right now.

2640
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are there.

2641
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 4: Not a loaded but I say the hardest thing to

2642
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 4: do is to go from being the hunter to being

2643
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 4: the hunted. They're now going to get everyone's best game.

2644
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 4: They are the measuring stick in the AFC South. How

2645
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 4: did they respond to that? It is a lot easier

2646
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 4: to be the challenger than to be the champion because

2647
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 4: the champion has to take all that extra energy that

2648
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 4: these foes come into the ring with and you gotta

2649
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 4: find them off.

2650
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 3: That'd be a different experience for the Houston Texas.

2651
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, Bucky brooks Andy Furman. Together,

2652
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 2: we are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready to

2653
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 2: take the gloves off, point your finger. Why the blame game?

2654
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 2: And freaking next the blame game right around the Ben's

2655
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 2: about eleven minutes now before the top of the hour.

2656
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman and we're live from

2657
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 2: the tiraq dot com studios.

2658
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 1: But right now, let's play the blame game. You ruin me.

2659
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: It's all your fault, it's your fault.

2660
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 7: What is it all your fault?

2661
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar. That's why there's the

2662
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: blame game. The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.

2663
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: He's a playing game. Yeah, here's mister blame himself, mister

2664
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 1: Shay Shay. Take it away, Shae sha.

2665
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 7: It is me, mister blame himself Shay.

2666
01:56:58,840 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 3: So let's start it off.

2667
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna read, obviously a couple of since instances that

2668
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 7: are happening in the world of sports, and you guys

2669
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 7: are gonna tell me who is to blame.

2670
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 3: So the first one.

2671
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 7: Notre Dame announced a one year suspension for its men's

2672
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 7: swim team after an external review found chronic violations of

2673
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 7: NCAA gambling rules. Who do you blame, Andy, Let's start

2674
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 7: with you.

2675
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's like these swimmers on the team, they

2676
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 2: were betting on their own races. I don't think it's

2677
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 2: that big of a deal. But when you're surrounded with

2678
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 2: betting on your phone, betting on TV, edge, on radio,

2679
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 2: everywhere you go, it's place a bed, you tempted to

2680
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 2: do that, and it's not a bit incentive for you

2681
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 2: to race, and maybe race even better in practice at

2682
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 2: least because you got money on the deal.

2683
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a big deal.

2684
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 2: But I blame the environment itself because there's too much

2685
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 2: betting going on.

2686
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 1: Kick it away from it.

2687
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you haven't. You're asking kids to live

2688
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 3: in both worlds, right.

2689
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 4: You're asking them to be involved in the fantasy football

2690
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 4: space and all the other things that they've done that

2691
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 4: makes them very very comfortable in terms of betting on themselves,

2692
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 4: of betting on teams. But now that you're at a

2693
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 4: higher level, they don't want you to bet, and because

2694
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 4: you have gambling sponsors and all this other stuff. I

2695
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 4: think it's a little blur for the players. It has

2696
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 4: to be very clear for them, and I won't absolve

2697
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 4: them for blame. But I think parents and adults around

2698
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 4: them have to make it very very clear what's legal

2699
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 4: what's not because so much of what they do on

2700
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 4: their phones and devices, it kind of messes into their world,

2701
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 4: all right.

2702
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 7: Next one, two feuding wealthy businessmen are fighting over sand.

2703
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 7: Mark Antenasio, owner of the Milwaukee Brewers, has been sued

2704
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 7: over construction tactics in his twenty three million Malibu home

2705
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 7: by his billionaire neighbor, who says the homeowners move sand

2706
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 7: from the public beach onto his private property. Who do

2707
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 7: you blame, Andy, Let's go with you.

2708
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it's quite obvious because the neighbor of Mark Antonasio

2709
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 2: is not a Milwaukee Brewer fan, so he wants to.

2710
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Screw them over. That's what he's gonna do.

2711
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: Why would you get upset about guy taking sand from

2712
01:58:58,160 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 2: a public beach.

2713
01:58:59,040 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

2714
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 4: Let it go, Let it go, you full hey man, Look,

2715
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 4: if you have a homeowners association or something like that, like, hey,

2716
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 4: you don't want him taking away and enjoying the fruits

2717
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 4: of what everyone should.

2718
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 3: Be able to benefit from, making it his own.

2719
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 4: And so if he's taking sand illegally and putting it

2720
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 4: in the spot like, no, I don't like that. Look,

2721
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 4: I paid a pretty penny to to live alongside you,

2722
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 4: so you just don't have.

2723
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 3: The rights because you're a billionaire. So now we're gonna

2724
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 3: fight about this.

2725
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 7: Three members of the Dallas Cowboys are looking for contract

2726
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 7: extensions QB Dak Prescott, wide receiver CD Lamb, and the

2727
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 7: linebacker Micah Parsons.

2728
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 1: No news yet. Who do you blame?

2729
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 4: I mean Jerry Jones for stalling and allowing it to

2730
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 4: get like this. Most team builders would never allow it

2731
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 4: that your three best players have to do contracts all

2732
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 4: at the same time, especially when they can be three

2733
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 4: of your biggest money players. Should have taken care of

2734
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott last year so it's not an issue, But

2735
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 4: now you've kind of let it spiral out of control.

2736
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how you get this back if you're

2737
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, are the Cowboys.

2738
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 2: Easy to blame Jerry Jones, But I blame the system.

2739
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean, most of these guys who run the contract

2740
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 2: let him play at that contract.

2741
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's all about the money. It's about I

2742
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 1: want more than you.

2743
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 2: That's basically going It's all about If players didn't find

2744
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 2: out what other players made, we wouldn't have this problem.

2745
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 1: That's what the bottom line is. But it is Jerry

2746
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 1: Jones fault because he signs a check.

2747
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 7: The Commanders have signed receiver Martavius Brian, a Clemson man

2748
02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 7: who hasn't played since twenty eighteen following his third substance

2749
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 7: abuse violation.

2750
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 1: Who do you blame?

2751
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Like, he hasn't played in

2752
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 3: a long time.

2753
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't don't know why you were saying someone who

2754
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 4: hadn't played since twenty eighteen.

2755
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me.

2756
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't sign the guy if he signed in twenty eighteen,

2757
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 2: if he didn't have a drug abuse problem. But the

2758
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 2: fact that he has won the NFL. Come on, Roger,

2759
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 2: do something, Roger could though, you know what's going on.

2760
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 2: Guy had drug problem though, who knows?

2761
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. We move on.

2762
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, by the way, who's doing the checking on

2763
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 2: the Boosters data?

2764
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 4: Moore?

2765
02:00:55,560 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 2: Where Fox Sports Sunday coming up next? There's always one

2766
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 2: bad apple. We'll explain that and just about a minute,

2767
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox

2768
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and

2769
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:14,440
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2770
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Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be here. He is the

2774
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: way football should be played, written, talked about, and coached.

2775
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 2: My guy Bucky Brooks, Hello, Buck, how are you?

2776
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Andy. What's going on?

2777
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know, things are great.

2778
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 2: I want to take a little bit of a to

2779
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 2: from football for a second, because college football basically is

2780
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 2: right around the corner. And when we talk about college sports,

2781
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 2: you got to talk about nil, name, image, and likeness.

2782
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 2: If you will, just talk about that, the good, the bed,

2783
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 2: and the ugly. As this season really is rolling. This

2784
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 2: next week USC's playing LSU should be a pretty darn

2785
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 2: good game. But the name, image and likeness, I want

2786
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 2: to get the the nitty gritting on this now. The

2787
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 2: good the good. To me, there's players deserve to be paid.

2788
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind that when a college

2789
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 2: increases enrollment, there's selling merch, they're getting on TV, they're

2790
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 2: getting promotion. It's all because of the workers, and the

2791
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 2: workers are the players. They deserve to be paid. I

2792
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 2: think we both agree on that.

2793
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, they certainly deserve to be paid absolutely.

2794
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 2: Okay, the bad all right, here's the bad part of

2795
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: NILS if there is user word bad, maybe the weak part,

2796
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 2: if you will, but I call it the bad part. Well,

2797
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 2: how much should they get paid? And obviously the schools

2798
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 2: that are paying them the rich will get richer. You're

2799
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 2: getting a quarterback at Ohio State claiming I guess they

2800
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:41,040
Speaker 2: claim he's going to get close to a million dollars.

2801
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, other schools can't afford that. They just can't

2802
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 2: do it. So you know, how much do these guys

2803
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 2: get paid? And certainly some schools are going to profit

2804
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 2: better than others. You know, it's hard to make it.

2805
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 2: It's hard to make it equal. There's no doubt in

2806
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 2: my mind. It's it's never going to be equal because

2807
02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 2: the Toledos of the world are never going to be

2808
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 2: as strong as they are hire states of the world.

2809
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 2: But there's got to be some sort of an even

2810
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 2: way to get it done because right now it's not fair,

2811
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: it's not good.

2812
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 4: No, it's not gonna be good, and there needs to

2813
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 4: be some kind of regulation like someone to over saying

2814
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 4: and say, hey, do's that much money you have to

2815
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 4: play with when it comes to spending on your players,

2816
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 4: Like there's a salary cap in essence, and then you

2817
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 4: can pay people accordingly.

2818
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 3: But it's a weird thing.

2819
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,400
Speaker 4: As the wild wild West. There's no governance over any

2820
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 4: of this stuff. And so you've seen these weird things.

2821
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 4: And you have my gunny coming out talking to Hey,

2822
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 4: we do negotiate during the year. I'll talk to you

2823
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:37,839
Speaker 4: after the season because you have agents of these players

2824
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 4: who now are calling in favorable at favorable times for

2825
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 4: them to maybe try and renegotiate the deal. It's always something. Yeah,

2826
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 4: college football is a mess right now.

2827
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only is it a mess, thing about this

2828
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 2: in a college football coach is going to go into

2829
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 2: the home of an eighteen year old kid and kind

2830
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 2: of try to tell mama and papa to tell the

2831
02:03:58,280 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 2: kid to go there.

2832
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: I'll watch out from make sure it goes to classes, whatever.

2833
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 3: It may be.

2834
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:03,879
Speaker 2: Now you've got to go in there with a checkbook.

2835
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to promise him to play, but

2836
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 2: also you got to promise him to pay. I mean,

2837
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,920
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. So my question also as far as the

2838
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 2: badness concern with nil is who deserves more, the revenue

2839
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 2: or the non revenue sports.

2840
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 1: Obviously the revenue.

2841
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 2: Sports are bringing him money to the school to football

2842
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 2: and basketball, But does that take away from a swimmer,

2843
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 2: a track guy, a soccer player. I mean, who gets more?

2844
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 2: But maybe if you negotiate on your own. I'll give

2845
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 2: you an example. There was a woman at the University

2846
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati who won a medal in the hammer throw

2847
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 2: in track and field at the Olympics. That's a non

2848
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 2: revenue sport. She got a lot of notoriety for the school.

2849
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 1: She should probably get something, at least something good, some money, right,

2850
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 1: That's my take on it.

2851
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean it's some good, but I

2852
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 4: think all of it is broken, right, So, I think

2853
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 4: too many people are quick to blame the players for

2854
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 4: the system being garrived with a transfer portal in Io

2855
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 4: without blaming the coaches for also driving.

2856
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 3: Up the money. When it comes to salaries.

2857
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 4: You have guys like Debo, I mean, dum Sweeney, Dabbosweeney

2858
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 4: and those guys making ten million plus as coaches. I mean,

2859
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 4: no one said you have to pay your coach that,

2860
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 4: but they continue to get.

2861
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 3: Paid like that.

2862
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 4: Without anyone ever talking about the escalating coaching salaries and

2863
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 4: how much universities are paying to maintain the coaching staff.

2864
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 4: The players, look, this is payback for all the years

2865
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 4: that they couldn't get anything and everybody was profiting off

2866
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,879
Speaker 4: of their laboring those things. I don't think those players

2867
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 4: will change. Yeah, it's annoying to deal with their parents

2868
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 4: and those things, but without like structure, a set structure

2869
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 4: that every team gets a quote unquote one million dollars

2870
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 4: collective where they can pay all their people and all

2871
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 4: those things, it's hard to regulate because you got the

2872
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 4: haves and the have nots, and you have people that

2873
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 4: can ever play on a level playing field.

2874
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 3: What you're going to see, my opinion, you're going to.

2875
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 4: See a group of schools go and play kind of

2876
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 4: like their elite college football. They gonna have all the

2877
02:06:06,920 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 4: money go there or whatever. And then you have another

2878
02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 4: set of schools that are comfortable playing sports, but they

2879
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 4: don't want to get into the high cotting of what

2880
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 4: that is to play with the Ohio States and the

2881
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 4: Michigan's of the world, and you'll see a natural pecking water,

2882
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 4: just like you have division one and Division two, Division three.

2883
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:22,920
Speaker 3: You'll see some of these.

2884
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 4: Teams go down and be comfortable playing outside of that

2885
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 4: elite ranks because the money just prevents them from getting

2886
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 4: up there.

2887
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 2: You touched on something very interesting just now. You told

2888
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: them with the coaches how much money they're making ten

2889
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 2: million dollars over it may be, which I think is

2890
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 2: way out of whack, but you know, people are quick

2891
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 2: to kind of make mention of salaries that quarterbacks make,

2892
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 2: and honestly, the quarterback makes the team gone.

2893
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 1: We've mentioned this, and I think.

2894
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 2: Even if you're just a casual observer of the National

2895
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 2: Football League, you realize that if your team does not

2896
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:57,000
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that can play, you ain't gonna win,

2897
02:06:57,400 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, And basically that's what it's all about. Maybe

2898
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 2: that's why to deserve the money that they get, because

2899
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:03,880
Speaker 2: without a quarterback, you're.

2900
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 1: Not going anywhere. But in coaching, you know, you can

2901
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 1: get a coach that doesn't make t million dollars and

2902
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe still win. You know, when when did this happen

2903
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 1: that these coaches get this kind of money. I think

2904
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,480
Speaker 1: it's somewhat out of whack, don't you It is?

2905
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:22,280
Speaker 4: But college sports a big business. The money has to

2906
02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:25,320
Speaker 4: go somewhere. We're gonna let the universities take all the money.

2907
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 4: Like the universities the athletic departments, they take all the money,

2908
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 4: they don't spend it on anything.

2909
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 3: The players do all the work.

2910
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I understand the coaches should get there for shake.

2911
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 4: My only thing is this, you can't exclude the players.

2912
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 4: The players have to be able to benefit from the

2913
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,960
Speaker 4: money that has gone into college athletics over the last

2914
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 4: twenty five to thirty years. What has happened and the

2915
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 4: reason why all those lawsuits finally came back against him,

2916
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 4: is college sports benefited and exploited the athletes. Yeah, we

2917
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 4: can talk about free education, but there's nothing free about

2918
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:58,120
Speaker 4: the education. If I have to come and have to

2919
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:00,360
Speaker 4: practice and have to do all these other things, that's

2920
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 4: a part of it. So it became a Look, it's

2921
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:08,400
Speaker 4: an employee employee employer relationship, which demands that you unionize,

2922
02:08:08,440 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 4: you have insurance, you have all these other things that

2923
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:12,480
Speaker 4: should be a part of it. I don't like the

2924
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 4: way it's going because I think people are leaving school

2925
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 4: after four or five years without college degrees. Like, yeah,

2926
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 4: they make a while of cash, but it's not a

2927
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:24,200
Speaker 4: higher learning situation for them. There's a way to be

2928
02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 4: able to do both. There's a way to graduate and

2929
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 4: also benefit from the money. There's also a way to

2930
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 4: make sure that all the money's not going in the

2931
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:34,840
Speaker 4: pockets of the coaches in the ads, but it's also

2932
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 4: filtering back to the players, whether in real cash or

2933
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 4: in programs and things that help them succeed when it's done.

2934
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of stuff to do it.

2935
02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:45,680
Speaker 4: But until you get leadership in place to touch on

2936
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 4: all those things, it's pointless. We're just the dog chasing

2937
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 4: us on tail.

2938
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so eventually I think the college is going

2939
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 2: to bakway from the ANTW double at the ant double

2940
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 2: has no more power, they really don't. And then colleges

2941
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 2: excuse to do it on their own, which basically they're

2942
02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 2: somewhat doing it. Now, let me make a left turn

2943
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 2: for a second, and for just a second, we talked

2944
02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 2: about the quarterback salaries in the NFL and coach of

2945
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 2: salaries in college.

2946
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 1: Tell me the difference, and I hear this term all

2947
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 1: the time. What is the difference between an elite quarterback

2948
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: and a franchise quarterback? I like to know what is

2949
02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: the difference and give me an example if you could.

2950
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 2: Collegiate level of the pro level well on the n NFL,

2951
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 2: because I hear it all the time in the NFL.

2952
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 1: Elite and franchise.

2953
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 4: Okay, so I think the terms have been blended. So

2954
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 4: elite to me, you're talking about the top five, top

2955
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:35,600
Speaker 4: ten percent of the league.

2956
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:38,000
Speaker 3: So if we do that, if we are really.

2957
02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 4: True to what elite means, which will be the top

2958
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 4: ten percent of society. They're thirty two teams, that means

2959
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 4: there are only three to five quarterbacks that should be

2960
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:49,839
Speaker 4: regarded as elite in our game. And what has happened

2961
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:52,840
Speaker 4: is those elite quarterbacks have you nver? I know Patrick

2962
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 4: Mahomes is included that and whoever else you want to

2963
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:59,200
Speaker 4: throw into that elite category. But what has happened People

2964
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 4: have justified paying quarterbacks that they want to retain by

2965
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 4: calling them franchise quarterbacks instead of being honest and saying, hey,

2966
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 4: this guy's.

2967
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 3: Not good enough.

2968
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 4: If we're going to compete and we want an elite

2969
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 4: quarterback because we need elite to compete with.

2970
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, well then it was your guy. Ever be elite.

2971
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 4: If he's not elite, don't pay him like an elite player,

2972
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 4: it gets out of whack. And the reasons salaries have

2973
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:25,400
Speaker 4: gotten out of whack is because you have guys who

2974
02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:29,520
Speaker 4: are not elite making elite money. So let's talk about

2975
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,480
Speaker 4: just couldn't just happened last night Daniel Jones? Right, So

2976
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones got to forty million dollars. You remember how

2977
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,120
Speaker 4: hard it was for the quarterbacks to get over forty million.

2978
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 4: It was like Pat Mahomes first, and then Josh Allen,

2979
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 4: then de Seaun Watson came and got the guaranteed deal,

2980
02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 4: but it pushed him over. Well, Daniel Jones came up

2981
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 4: won fifteen like they won in the playoffs. He had

2982
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 4: fifteen touchdown passes and only five interceptions, but they paid

2983
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 4: him forty million dollars, which put him in the.

2984
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 3: Category of Josh Allen, then Pat Mahomes and those guys.

2985
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:02,400
Speaker 4: The issue that you have is when you pay him

2986
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 4: that expectations all right, well, if I pay this, I

2987
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 4: expect him.

2988
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:07,520
Speaker 3: To play like Pat Mahomes.

2989
02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:10,920
Speaker 4: There's never a universe in which Daniel Jones is gonna

2990
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 4: play like Pat Mahomes, right, But the money makes you

2991
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 4: expect that he's gonna do that.

2992
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 3: So that's what's happened.

2993
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 4: People are playing elite prices for above average to good players,

2994
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:22,400
Speaker 4: and that's where you're going.

2995
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 3: That's where it's going to, right.

2996
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,360
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. That's what I wanted to know.

2997
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 1: That's all I needed to know.

2998
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 2: Now that back to the nil for a second, I

2999
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 2: think the bear does in fact outweigh the good right now,

3000
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of confusion in the nil. But

3001
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 2: what about this University of Miami, Florida booster John Ruiz.

3002
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 2: John Ruiz has a business called Life Wallet, and according

3003
02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 2: to reports, his business is going on it's going to sink.

3004
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,120
Speaker 2: So I asked you a question now, because they say

3005
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 2: this guy was like mister Miami. He was a Miami's

3006
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 2: nil king. Why does that affect Miami's sports? And who

3007
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:56,400
Speaker 2: would Miami? The university has the jot to check the

3008
02:11:56,440 --> 02:12:00,800
Speaker 2: potential boosters and their revenue stream the fact that they

3009
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 2: won't go on there. For example, if a kid is

3010
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 2: promised maybe half a mill whatever it may be, half

3011
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 2: a million dollars has a quarterback University of Miami and

3012
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:11,960
Speaker 2: they say, well, don't worry, Ruiz is going to give

3013
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,800
Speaker 2: him the money, and his business goes under. What happens

3014
02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 2: and can the kid get out of his deal or

3015
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 2: his so called contract and lead the University of Miami.

3016
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 2: I'll go to another school and negotiate for more money

3017
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 2: because he can't get it out of Miami.

3018
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:27,720
Speaker 1: Because the guy backed out because his business is going south.

3019
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:31,640
Speaker 1: That's the question right now. Is there someone that polices

3020
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:36,839
Speaker 1: the boosters and their boosters bankroll? That's the problem, I would.

3021
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 3: Think now, there's no one that can release that unless

3022
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 3: you have collectives that can be regulated. There's no one.

3023
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,680
Speaker 4: It's just a bunch of money that's going everywhere and anybody,

3024
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 4: and everybody can pay players in whatever manner. Until there's

3025
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:57,440
Speaker 4: like a uniform way to regulate in io and the

3026
02:12:57,520 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 4: things that come along with in IO, We're going to

3027
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:03,680
Speaker 4: continue to have these issues and is disappointing when.

3028
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 3: You look at it, but it's just the way of life.

3029
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:09,280
Speaker 4: And so the college landscape is completely changing and we

3030
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:11,440
Speaker 4: have to get ready for it. And we can momanthesize

3031
02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:13,400
Speaker 4: the old way, but it's gonna change. It's gonna be different,

3032
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:17,840
Speaker 4: it's gonna look different. But I mean, we'll see how

3033
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:20,280
Speaker 4: it all shakes out. I just know wheout leadership is gonna.

3034
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 1: Fall apart now according to reports Now.

3035
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 2: In the SEC filing, Rui said that life while his

3036
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:30,360
Speaker 2: company is his large scale medical claims company, had made

3037
02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:33,480
Speaker 2: a seven point seven million dollars revenue last year, but

3038
02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 2: they suffered a net loss of two hundred eleven million dollars.

3039
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,880
Speaker 2: All right, but here's a guy and he's an attorney. Also,

3040
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 2: he was the leader behind the push for a new

3041
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,640
Speaker 2: stadium for the University of Miami football and he's committed

3042
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 2: millions of dollars and back in twenty twenty one when

3043
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 2: nil rules were passed, he emerged now as one of

3044
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:54,520
Speaker 2: the faces of the new era. In the first year

3045
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 2: of name, image and likeness allowances, this guy, John Ruiz

3046
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 2: spent more than ten million dollars in athletes.

3047
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 1: So here, here's another question here.

3048
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:08,280
Speaker 2: If I had that kind of money, I'd be damned

3049
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 2: if I spend it on a college athlete. I don't

3050
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:15,080
Speaker 2: understand the pleasure he would get and was dissatisfaction or

3051
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:16,280
Speaker 2: why you would even do that?

3052
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,960
Speaker 1: Why would you die? I don't get it. Why does

3053
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:23,480
Speaker 1: someone give money to an eighteen nineteen year old kid

3054
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 1: to go to school? I don't understand.

3055
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole situation to me, a they should

3056
02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 2: get paid, but be not by individuals, I don't think,

3057
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:35,160
Speaker 2: because obviously one school could overrule another by giving them

3058
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:37,880
Speaker 2: more money. The school should pay them. I pay them

3059
02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 2: a certain amount, but would you pay him? Would you

3060
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 2: pay a certain athlete money to go to your school

3061
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 2: in North Carolina?

3062
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 3: Personally, no, I'm not paying anybody.

3063
02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:50,480
Speaker 4: But I understand why boosters and stuff do it because

3064
02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:52,240
Speaker 4: they're competitive. You got to remember the ones who were

3065
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 4: the big bank rollers. They were successful and typically some

3066
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,360
Speaker 4: form of business where they had to bet on themselves,

3067
02:14:57,400 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 4: and they used to having the best and brightest around them,

3068
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 4: and so they are into the bottom line of winning.

3069
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:07,240
Speaker 4: And what this new landscape has done, it is empowered

3070
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 4: to donors and boosters more so than the head coaches

3071
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:12,400
Speaker 4: in the ads, because everyone is having an answer to

3072
02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:15,040
Speaker 4: those who write the big checks, and because of the

3073
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 4: collectives and the amount of money that's needed to secure

3074
02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:21,600
Speaker 4: and retain some of these players. Yeah, the people that

3075
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 4: write the checks, they have more staying who I want

3076
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:25,800
Speaker 4: to coach, who I want to be here, Who's not

3077
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:28,640
Speaker 4: all of that other stuff. That's what you're saying, and

3078
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:30,360
Speaker 4: you can continue to see it because if I give

3079
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:33,040
Speaker 4: two million dollars out to North Carolina. I'm certainly going

3080
02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:34,440
Speaker 4: to want to have a say in terms of where

3081
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 4: that money goes.

3082
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:37,120
Speaker 1: It amazes me.

3083
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 2: Look is a guy by the name of Isaiah Wong.

3084
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:45,120
Speaker 2: He was the ACC Player of the Year back in

3085
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:49,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. He reportedly threatened to leave Miami unless

3086
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 2: he received more NIL money. Now, this guy Ruiz made

3087
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 2: it happen, and he persuaded him to stay. That season,

3088
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 2: Miami's women's team reached the Elite for the first time.

3089
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 2: The men's team made its form Final four run, and

3090
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 2: after the Hurricanes win, if you remember, Jim Larenega, the

3091
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:07,600
Speaker 2: coach of Miami, was hugging Ruiz on the court. Now,

3092
02:16:07,640 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, in twenty twenty three, the NCAA

3093
02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:14,200
Speaker 2: issued sanctions against Miami. It's first related to the NIL.

3094
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 2: First sanctions ever coach University of Miami and IL for

3095
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 2: women's coach, the women's basketball coach Katie Meyer for her

3096
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:25,040
Speaker 2: role in urging a meeting between Ruiz and the Cavender Twins.

3097
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:28,600
Speaker 2: Very popular twins over there played basketball my right. The

3098
02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:31,520
Speaker 2: SEC and Department of Justice, they're investigating.

3099
02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 1: This is not good.

3100
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:34,200
Speaker 2: This is going to open up a whole new can

3101
02:16:34,320 --> 02:16:37,280
Speaker 2: of worms for nil and nil boosters, because this is

3102
02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:40,000
Speaker 2: the first time I've heard anything at all about a

3103
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:42,680
Speaker 2: booster and a booster maybe not having the money to

3104
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:45,200
Speaker 2: pay after promising an athlete that he would pay him

3105
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:46,200
Speaker 2: to go to that school.

3106
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,840
Speaker 1: Not good, really not good. It's bad. The whole programs.

3107
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:51,200
Speaker 1: It's busted. It really is.

3108
02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:54,240
Speaker 4: It's busted all over and it's not going It's not

3109
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:57,600
Speaker 4: going to change until it absolutely bottoms out.

3110
02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 3: So it continue to operate at this face. But it's

3111
02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:01,760
Speaker 3: have to bottom out. You're gonna run out of money.

3112
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:06,440
Speaker 4: You can see players in bad situations and eventually he's

3113
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:08,120
Speaker 4: gonna go to the course and that's when the course

3114
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:09,560
Speaker 4: of mandates some kind of change.

3115
02:17:10,320 --> 02:17:12,280
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, we're gonna not change that.

3116
02:17:12,360 --> 02:17:14,640
Speaker 2: Though he's Bucky Brooks. Get him on X, get him

3117
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:16,680
Speaker 2: on Twitter at Bucket Books. I'm Andy Furman and Andy

3118
02:17:16,720 --> 02:17:19,960
Speaker 2: Furman FSR. Callers are welcome always at eight seven seven

3119
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,720
Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven seven nine nine

3120
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine. This hour we have yay

3121
02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 2: or nay, yay Ornay this hour on Fox Sports Sunday.

3122
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, we talk about Jared Goff, the

3123
02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:35,280
Speaker 2: quarterback of the Detroit Lions. Jared Goff. Maybe the star,

3124
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 2: maybe the star, but this guy is the engine that's

3125
02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 2: coming up next live for the Tyrock dot Com studios.

3126
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:48,120
Speaker 2: Expectations are overwhelming for these two teams. That's coming right up. Okay,

3127
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:48,840
Speaker 2: he's Bucky Brooks.

3128
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

3129
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:54,520
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, and Buck. I gotta tell you, I was.

3130
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:56,680
Speaker 2: Freaking out a little bit because I went on NFL

3131
02:17:56,840 --> 02:18:00,040
Speaker 2: dot com and they's sort of change the website. You

3132
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 2: know that where it says writers and stuff. I scrolled down, Wait,

3133
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:04,680
Speaker 2: where's Bucky Brooks?

3134
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:08,040
Speaker 1: Right? But I found it. It's on the news right now.

3135
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 1: It's not on the writers.

3136
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why they changed it, but I finally

3137
02:18:11,680 --> 02:18:14,640
Speaker 2: found it because I love reading you every Friday. I

3138
02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:17,080
Speaker 2: guess you knew about the change, right that they changed

3139
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:17,600
Speaker 2: that website.

3140
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:19,920
Speaker 3: They're always tinkering with the website.

3141
02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:23,600
Speaker 1: Leave it alone. I don't leave it alone.

3142
02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:26,200
Speaker 3: Things. Wow, But I mean they're trying to make it better,

3143
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:27,720
Speaker 3: trying to make it a better user experience.

3144
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:29,720
Speaker 1: No, they're not really. You know what it is.

3145
02:18:29,800 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 2: They hire these guys and they're paying them, and the

3146
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,120
Speaker 2: guys who are getting paid. They I got a monkey

3147
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:36,240
Speaker 2: around and change and it ain't broke. Don't fix it.

3148
02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:36,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't broke.

3149
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 1: It was good.

3150
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:39,680
Speaker 2: It said writers. You scroll down and you look for

3151
02:18:39,800 --> 02:18:42,920
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks's name. Now it doesn't say writers. It says news,

3152
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:45,160
Speaker 2: all right, So I had to scroll down news and

3153
02:18:45,240 --> 02:18:46,920
Speaker 2: finally it said, oh bye, Bucky Brooks.

3154
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:49,320
Speaker 1: So I got the deal right now. So here it is.

3155
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,160
Speaker 2: And it was a good one this week because it

3156
02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 2: was a bad expectations. And you also said something to

3157
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:58,160
Speaker 2: the effect that really and truly the talent is unoverwhelming

3158
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:01,040
Speaker 2: between NFL elites and the solid dwellers.

3159
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, did this got to be?

3160
02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you're telling me that between Kansas City and

3161
02:19:05,240 --> 02:19:07,160
Speaker 2: Carolina's not that much difference than talent.

3162
02:19:09,160 --> 02:19:13,000
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that it. I mean, like most games

3163
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,320
Speaker 4: are decided about eight points to fewer. Every team that

3164
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:18,800
Speaker 4: is in the National Football League has talent. It's about

3165
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:21,080
Speaker 4: can you get them to play the right way? If

3166
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:24,280
Speaker 4: you are a team that is inferior to your opponent,

3167
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:28,480
Speaker 4: can you then find a way to create turnovers do

3168
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:31,560
Speaker 4: some things that level the playing field. But the talent

3169
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:36,040
Speaker 4: disparity is fairly different. It's fairly even, because remember the

3170
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:39,080
Speaker 4: league has tried to make it an eight and eight

3171
02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:42,280
Speaker 4: nine and eight league where everyone is right in the middle,

3172
02:19:42,440 --> 02:19:45,120
Speaker 4: and if you look at the way it finishes, everyone

3173
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,080
Speaker 4: is right in the middle based on the salary cap,

3174
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:51,119
Speaker 4: the drafting system, all of those things. So that's why

3175
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 4: the talent is pretty even throughout the course of the league.

3176
02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:56,600
Speaker 2: So the factors of a team winning is not that

3177
02:19:56,760 --> 02:20:01,200
Speaker 2: much personnel of talent. The difference might be coaching, attitude

3178
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:03,560
Speaker 2: of the players, and basically maybe how you practice and

3179
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:06,040
Speaker 2: there so called not that I like this word that much,

3180
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:08,400
Speaker 2: but the so called culture of the team, how it's

3181
02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:10,560
Speaker 2: made up. So we'll see what happens, because I got

3182
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:13,520
Speaker 2: to believe that over the last several years, the Charge

3183
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:15,600
Speaker 2: has always faltered in the fourth quarter.

3184
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:17,640
Speaker 1: They faded, they choked, they really did.

3185
02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:19,880
Speaker 2: We'll see if Harbbar's the difference, and I think he

3186
02:20:19,959 --> 02:20:22,280
Speaker 2: will be because he's won every place else he went to.

3187
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:25,840
Speaker 2: He brings an immediate respect factor to those guys. They

3188
02:20:25,879 --> 02:20:28,320
Speaker 2: seem to enjoy and they're practicing a lot harder, and

3189
02:20:28,400 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 2: I think they will win. In fact, if Justin Herbert's healthy,

3190
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:33,080
Speaker 2: because I know he's banged up a little bit. If

3191
02:20:33,120 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 2: he's healthy, they win because he's the coach.

3192
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:37,440
Speaker 3: He's a coach.

3193
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:40,360
Speaker 4: But the game really comes down to the mistakes, right,

3194
02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:43,160
Speaker 4: the team that makes the fewest mistakes wins. And it

3195
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 4: sounds like very cliche and very elementary, but really it

3196
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:48,640
Speaker 4: comes down to it. And if you think about the

3197
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:52,080
Speaker 4: main categories, because people are talking about the dbos that

3198
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:55,119
Speaker 4: don't beat ourselves, really comes down to avoiding the self

3199
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:58,320
Speaker 4: inflicted mistakes. So if you don't turn the ball over,

3200
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,280
Speaker 4: if you don't have any greagious amount of penalties, and

3201
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:03,720
Speaker 4: if you don't give up big plays over the top

3202
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:05,520
Speaker 4: of the defense, you're gonna win your games.

3203
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:06,600
Speaker 3: And really the.

3204
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:09,560
Speaker 4: Turnover battle is everything and a national football league, if

3205
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:12,160
Speaker 4: you win the turnover battle by one, just plus one

3206
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 4: in the turnover battle, you gonn win sixty four percent

3207
02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:18,000
Speaker 4: of your games. If you win it by two, it

3208
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:21,320
Speaker 4: goes up to seventy two seventy three percent of your games,

3209
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 4: and winning if you win by three, it puts you

3210
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:27,040
Speaker 4: up there in the upper eighties, almost ninety percent that

3211
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:29,040
Speaker 4: you're going to win the game. So if you just

3212
02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:31,040
Speaker 4: take care of the football, don't give it away to

3213
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:34,040
Speaker 4: the opponent, do the things that you're supposed to do

3214
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:36,920
Speaker 4: with it, you win games. It really comes down to that.

3215
02:21:37,040 --> 02:21:41,679
Speaker 4: And so if you can master those areas, you'll always.

3216
02:21:41,320 --> 02:21:41,800
Speaker 3: Being the game.

3217
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:44,480
Speaker 4: And then a team that is not as talented can

3218
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:46,600
Speaker 4: then find a way to be a team that is

3219
02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:48,600
Speaker 4: more talent than them because the other team is messing

3220
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:49,840
Speaker 4: up well, all.

3221
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:51,840
Speaker 2: Right, And you wrote that in NFL dot comd of

3222
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:54,320
Speaker 2: this year. The Dallas Cowboys and the New York Juduman

3223
02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 2: the spotlight as star studded squads facing lofty expectations.

3224
02:21:58,280 --> 02:21:59,560
Speaker 1: You know, why do you pick those two teams?

3225
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:02,359
Speaker 2: Because I gotta believe there's bigger questions on the Cleveland

3226
02:22:02,360 --> 02:22:05,280
Speaker 2: Browns with Deshaun Watson and the Philadelphia Eagles way they

3227
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:07,440
Speaker 2: kind of went down the cropper at the end of

3228
02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:10,800
Speaker 2: last season. The bigger expectations may be more pressure there

3229
02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:12,600
Speaker 2: than Dallas and New York.

3230
02:22:12,640 --> 02:22:15,520
Speaker 4: Why pick those two because they're the ones to get

3231
02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:17,720
Speaker 4: the clicks, They're the ones that have been the most

3232
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:19,280
Speaker 4: notable in the offseason.

3233
02:22:19,480 --> 02:22:19,960
Speaker 3: That the ones.

3234
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:22,560
Speaker 4: There's a lot of tension on America's team and Aaron Rodgers.

3235
02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:25,040
Speaker 4: You throw those two names up in the headline, everyone

3236
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,280
Speaker 4: wants to talk about that. So because they've been the

3237
02:22:27,320 --> 02:22:30,520
Speaker 4: topic of discussion the entire offseason. Let's dig into what

3238
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 4: success looks like for them for this year.

3239
02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:35,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Now, the last

3240
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 2: couple of years, they were twelve and five. That's not bad,

3241
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:40,360
Speaker 2: that's not bad at all, but they really didn't do anything.

3242
02:22:40,520 --> 02:22:42,760
Speaker 2: They've gone one to three in the playoffs during those periods.

3243
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:47,199
Speaker 2: Twelve win campaigns under Mike McCarthy. Here's the guy who's

3244
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 2: been on the hot seat that he was hired. I mean,

3245
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:52,119
Speaker 2: there's just something about that guy that either the media

3246
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 2: doesn't like or he just can't get over the hump.

3247
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he just can't get it done. So there's

3248
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,880
Speaker 2: pressure there, and there's even it added pressure right now

3249
02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:03,240
Speaker 2: because they have to sign Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons,

3250
02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:07,040
Speaker 2: these guys are eligible for extensions, and obviously they don't

3251
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:09,240
Speaker 2: win if they don't have these guys. And the number

3252
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,160
Speaker 2: one guy I need to sign, as you mentioned earlier,

3253
02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:14,400
Speaker 2: is Dak Prescott, the quarterback. So I guess there's a

3254
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:17,440
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on this team. The spotlights on this team,

3255
02:23:17,480 --> 02:23:20,160
Speaker 2: and America's on this team because I think that the

3256
02:23:20,400 --> 02:23:23,960
Speaker 2: ratings for the Dallas Cowboys lead any other team as

3257
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:28,600
Speaker 2: far as TV ratings game watching on TV. Why because

3258
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:32,680
Speaker 2: they so called America's team did the most interesting team

3259
02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:34,960
Speaker 2: that has done nothing over the last twenty years.

3260
02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 1: Think about that. They don't do anything.

3261
02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:39,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they haven't won anything, but everybody seems to

3262
02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:41,360
Speaker 2: be interested in them, and they follow them.

3263
02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's great. It's great to have that kind

3264
02:23:43,360 --> 02:23:43,800
Speaker 1: of following.

3265
02:23:44,760 --> 02:23:46,640
Speaker 4: I mean, they've done a really good job of creating

3266
02:23:46,680 --> 02:23:50,720
Speaker 4: a brand that can last to test of time. You

3267
02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:53,560
Speaker 4: talk about the lack of success they've had since what

3268
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:56,440
Speaker 4: ninety seven is when they won their last Super Bowl

3269
02:23:56,520 --> 02:23:59,360
Speaker 4: somewhere in nice six, nice, somewhere in there. I mean,

3270
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:02,320
Speaker 4: that's a long time without winning. But yet everyone buys

3271
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:04,879
Speaker 4: into the narrative each and every year. They have enough

3272
02:24:04,959 --> 02:24:08,760
Speaker 4: star players to kind of keep you engaged, and that

3273
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:13,280
Speaker 4: is what kind of drives the engine.

3274
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:13,680
Speaker 3: I mean.

3275
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:16,879
Speaker 4: And then they're marketing geniuses in terms of how they

3276
02:24:16,959 --> 02:24:19,400
Speaker 4: sell the brand, how they package it, what it looks like,

3277
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:22,080
Speaker 4: and all those things. But one thing that people never

3278
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:24,920
Speaker 4: talk about when it comes to Jerry Jones because everyone

3279
02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:27,320
Speaker 4: loves to celebrate how rich he is and what he

3280
02:24:27,400 --> 02:24:31,000
Speaker 4: does in terms of spending cash. He is one of

3281
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:33,840
Speaker 4: the more frugal owners that you will find. They do

3282
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,680
Speaker 4: not spend a lot of cash on their teams, on

3283
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:39,280
Speaker 4: their players, and when they do a lot of times

3284
02:24:39,320 --> 02:24:44,119
Speaker 4: it's reluctant spending. They don't proactively go and hand out

3285
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:46,959
Speaker 4: big contracts to their players. They're kind of forced between

3286
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:48,760
Speaker 4: a rock and a hard place before they do it.

3287
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:51,720
Speaker 4: And even now, if you look at the patterns, there's

3288
02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:54,520
Speaker 4: no reason why Ceedee Lamb shouldn't have been signed, particularly

3289
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:57,120
Speaker 4: after Justin Jefferson signed his deal. It should have been okay,

3290
02:24:57,280 --> 02:24:59,640
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson signed, he needs to get signed right away,

3291
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 4: c at a year a year, yeah, right, So now

3292
02:25:04,600 --> 02:25:08,840
Speaker 4: you're just prolonging it. Dak Prescott. Why Dak Prescott has

3293
02:25:08,879 --> 02:25:11,280
Speaker 4: a no franchise tag, no trade class in his thame,

3294
02:25:11,560 --> 02:25:13,720
Speaker 4: they should have been on the front end of signing

3295
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:15,400
Speaker 4: him if they wanted to bring him back. And then

3296
02:25:15,440 --> 02:25:18,000
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons they still have time on. But just the

3297
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:20,480
Speaker 4: way they go about doing business, I believe they waste

3298
02:25:20,480 --> 02:25:22,080
Speaker 4: a lot of money on the back end that could

3299
02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:25,119
Speaker 4: have been saved by just doing these front end deals,

3300
02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:29,160
Speaker 4: being aggressive signing your guys and being okayble being okay

3301
02:25:29,240 --> 02:25:29,440
Speaker 4: with that.

3302
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna sign them because they have to sign them,

3303
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:34,080
Speaker 2: and now they're gonna sign it for more money than

3304
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:36,400
Speaker 2: they could have signed them for. But the good news

3305
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys is they have talent that they

3306
02:25:38,959 --> 02:25:41,760
Speaker 2: can compete this year and the following year. What makes

3307
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 2: the stakes high. As you mentioned for the New York Jets,

3308
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 2: it's now or ever. This is it for Aaron Rodgers.

3309
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean, if he gets hurt, they're finished. Number one,

3310
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:53,119
Speaker 2: Number two, he's thirty nine years of age, and number three.

3311
02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:54,959
Speaker 2: I think if they do, in fact win this year,

3312
02:25:55,120 --> 02:25:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to return for a following year.

3313
02:25:57,440 --> 02:25:59,000
Speaker 1: So this is it. This is the end of the

3314
02:25:59,080 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 1: line for them.

3315
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:02,600
Speaker 3: M you don't think he's coming back?

3316
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:04,360
Speaker 1: You think this is I think that he'll go out

3317
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:05,560
Speaker 1: to the sunset if they win.

3318
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:08,720
Speaker 3: Okay, what's winning? What's winning?

3319
02:26:09,400 --> 02:26:09,640
Speaker 1: I think?

3320
02:26:09,720 --> 02:26:10,200
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

3321
02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna win the super Bowl. But

3322
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 2: I think if they get deep in the playoffs, if

3323
02:26:13,720 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 2: they make the super Bowl, I think he quits.

3324
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:17,120
Speaker 1: If he makes the super Bowl.

3325
02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:20,280
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I just wanted to make sure I

3326
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:22,640
Speaker 4: got the definition winning. Yeah, I would say if he

3327
02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:25,080
Speaker 4: gets to the super Bowl, yes, but I don't envision

3328
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:27,280
Speaker 4: him doing it. So if they falter in the divisional round,

3329
02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:29,320
Speaker 4: I think you have a tough decision to make where

3330
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:30,600
Speaker 4: he wants to come back and and do it. It

3331
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:32,840
Speaker 4: also depends on how he plays. If he plays at

3332
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:35,800
Speaker 4: a high level where we could talk about him with

3333
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:40,360
Speaker 4: reverence of being an MVP candidate an MVP finalist, then

3334
02:26:40,400 --> 02:26:42,360
Speaker 4: he comes back and it looks different. But if he's

3335
02:26:42,959 --> 02:26:45,120
Speaker 4: just out there handing it off and doing the Peyton

3336
02:26:45,160 --> 02:26:47,160
Speaker 4: Manning thing at the end of his career when Peyton

3337
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 4: clearly didn't have the the health.

3338
02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:53,560
Speaker 3: On his side, I then I see him walking away

3339
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:55,200
Speaker 3: and kind of going and doing his own thing.

3340
02:26:55,600 --> 02:26:58,120
Speaker 2: And we haven't talked about the coaching factor. I mean

3341
02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:01,240
Speaker 2: both coaches with these xpects, so they basically go on

3342
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:03,760
Speaker 2: the hotsch. I think Robert Salas really on the hot seat.

3343
02:27:03,959 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean we knew that going in, but I honestly

3344
02:27:06,280 --> 02:27:11,160
Speaker 2: think that basically McCarthy probably maybe not as much. I

3345
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:13,520
Speaker 2: think get more heat in New York than you wouldn't Dallas.

3346
02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:15,840
Speaker 2: Perhaps I don't know, but I think New York will

3347
02:27:15,879 --> 02:27:16,720
Speaker 2: give you a lot more heat.

3348
02:27:19,800 --> 02:27:21,280
Speaker 4: I mean, look New York is gonna give you a

3349
02:27:21,320 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 4: lot of heat just because it's the media market in

3350
02:27:23,959 --> 02:27:26,880
Speaker 4: New York. I think the questions about the head coach,

3351
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:29,400
Speaker 4: the questions about some of the personnel moves they make.

3352
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:31,360
Speaker 4: They're gambling on a bunch of older players that are

3353
02:27:31,400 --> 02:27:36,320
Speaker 4: coming off injuries. To be right, that's a lot man,

3354
02:27:36,480 --> 02:27:41,800
Speaker 4: and they've always kind of been the step brother when

3355
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:45,119
Speaker 4: it comes to the market. The Giants are the ones

3356
02:27:45,200 --> 02:27:47,640
Speaker 4: that everyone talks about. The Jets are kind of the afterthought.

3357
02:27:48,200 --> 02:27:50,920
Speaker 4: This is their opportunity to kind of knock the Giants

3358
02:27:50,959 --> 02:27:52,160
Speaker 4: out of the headlines and have the.

3359
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:52,840
Speaker 3: Really good team.

3360
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:56,199
Speaker 4: But whenever we've expected those things from the Jets, they've

3361
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:59,560
Speaker 4: never delivered. They've never delivered to our expectation when we

3362
02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:02,760
Speaker 4: think that good, they never play up to the hype.

3363
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:05,080
Speaker 3: And I have a hard time believe they can play

3364
02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:05,520
Speaker 3: up to the hype.

3365
02:28:05,560 --> 02:28:07,560
Speaker 2: Now, I'm with you right there, But also I'm not

3366
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:09,000
Speaker 2: going to figure out the Eagles in the Browns. I

3367
02:28:09,040 --> 02:28:11,080
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of expectations and a lot of

3368
02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:13,080
Speaker 2: pressure they are and you can maybe even throw Buffalo

3369
02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:15,720
Speaker 2: in the mix too. Those three teams and the plus

3370
02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:18,720
Speaker 2: your Jets in Dallas, those are five teams that there's

3371
02:28:18,720 --> 02:28:21,640
Speaker 2: a lot of expectations and pressure coming into the season,

3372
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:23,280
Speaker 2: and the players feel it too.

3373
02:28:23,879 --> 02:28:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure they do, right, Yeah.

3374
02:28:26,760 --> 02:28:29,520
Speaker 4: But you know, like the thing is, pressure isn't always bad.

3375
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:32,960
Speaker 4: Pressure can make you spend more time preparing. It can

3376
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:34,240
Speaker 4: make you lock in and focus.

3377
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:35,760
Speaker 3: It can make you.

3378
02:28:37,879 --> 02:28:39,800
Speaker 4: A better student and just kind of like give you

3379
02:28:39,879 --> 02:28:42,240
Speaker 4: that competitive edge if you know how to manage the pressure.

3380
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 4: The thing that you don't want is from pressure to

3381
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 4: become stress. See, pressure is just understanding that the stakes

3382
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:50,560
Speaker 4: are high. Stress is when the stakes are high and

3383
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:53,280
Speaker 4: you know that you're not prepared for it. Hopefully these

3384
02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:56,200
Speaker 4: teams feel pressure, they don't feel stressed because stress is

3385
02:28:56,320 --> 02:28:59,200
Speaker 4: more on the players and the coaches not being prepared

3386
02:28:59,200 --> 02:29:01,120
Speaker 4: for the moment as opposed to anything else.

3387
02:29:01,600 --> 02:29:03,880
Speaker 1: Stress is what I have every Sunday with you. That's stress.

3388
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:04,960
Speaker 3: That's what I have.

3389
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Stress, That's what I all Right, we got to roll

3390
02:29:07,080 --> 02:29:09,360
Speaker 2: on these Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We have Fox

3391
02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio, and of course who

3392
02:29:12,080 --> 02:29:16,480
Speaker 2: looks the strongest on these teams? Well that's coming up

3393
02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:18,600
Speaker 2: next right here at the tiraq dot Com studios.

3394
02:29:18,680 --> 02:29:21,879
Speaker 1: But first I made himself. I was at Loyal Kron

3395
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:24,160
Speaker 1: with the sports. Sorry we're a little bit late. I'm man. Oh,

3396
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 1: no worries at all.

3397
02:29:24,879 --> 02:29:27,040
Speaker 8: Good morning to you, Andy and Bucky, and we start

3398
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:29,600
Speaker 8: with some fresh NFL news on this Sunday morning, as

3399
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:32,480
Speaker 8: multiple outlets reported a short time ago that the Minnesota

3400
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:36,560
Speaker 8: Vikings signing five time Pro Bowl cornerback Stefan Gilmour to.

3401
02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:38,640
Speaker 1: A one year, ten million dollar deal.

3402
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:41,720
Speaker 8: On the field on Saturday night, Cowboys over the Raiders

3403
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:44,960
Speaker 8: in Vegas twenty seven to twelve. Trey Lance completed fifteen

3404
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:47,520
Speaker 8: to twenty three for one fifty one with a touchdown pass.

3405
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:52,160
Speaker 8: Get this, Dallas's Brandon Aubrey kicked a sixty six yard

3406
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:54,800
Speaker 8: field goal at the halftime gun that would have tied

3407
02:29:54,840 --> 02:29:57,760
Speaker 8: the NFL record had it been a regular season game.

3408
02:29:57,920 --> 02:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Rady said, what was happened?

3409
02:29:59,760 --> 02:30:01,560
Speaker 8: Check the ball, chip the air in the bull Yeah,

3410
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:04,360
Speaker 8: you can't credit the altitude and it's Vegas, not Denver.

3411
02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:08,120
Speaker 8: Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce said he will decide the

3412
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:11,959
Speaker 8: starting quarterback for them between Aid and O'Connell and Gardner

3413
02:30:12,040 --> 02:30:14,840
Speaker 8: Minshew within the next couple of days. And Major League

3414
02:30:14,840 --> 02:30:17,440
Speaker 8: Baseball on Saturday night, the Atlanta Braves defeated the Los

3415
02:30:17,480 --> 02:30:21,240
Speaker 8: Angeles Angels in Anaheim eleven to three. Atlanta pitcher Chris

3416
02:30:21,320 --> 02:30:23,520
Speaker 8: Sales struck out ten in six innings for the win

3417
02:30:23,800 --> 02:30:25,520
Speaker 8: to improved to fourteen and three.

3418
02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:27,200
Speaker 1: Brewers over Cleveland two to one.

3419
02:30:27,280 --> 02:30:30,400
Speaker 8: Milwaukee on a four game winning streak leaves the NL

3420
02:30:30,520 --> 02:30:31,320
Speaker 8: Central by ten.

3421
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:33,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals over the Dodgers five to two.

3422
02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 8: The Cardinals hit three home runs as they broke a

3423
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:40,000
Speaker 8: five game losing streak, and San Diego recorded fifteen hits

3424
02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:43,360
Speaker 8: in an eight three win at Colorado. Padre hurler Dylan

3425
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:46,360
Speaker 8: Cees his twelfth victory of the season, Andy, and Bucky

3426
02:30:46,400 --> 02:30:46,680
Speaker 8: back to.

3427
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:49,119
Speaker 2: You, thik you, I mean, okay, now, these moves look

3428
02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:51,120
Speaker 2: pretty good for these teams. That's coming right up.

3429
02:30:51,320 --> 02:30:53,200
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brokes on Indy Ferman and by the way,

3430
02:30:53,240 --> 02:30:54,720
Speaker 1: yay you and they will come up at about seven

3431
02:30:54,720 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 1: eight minutes from now. And you know, I just heard

3432
02:30:57,560 --> 02:31:00,800
Speaker 1: Iman told about that sixty six yard field goal. You

3433
02:31:00,879 --> 02:31:03,800
Speaker 1: know who would have envisioned a sixty six yard field goal.

3434
02:31:03,879 --> 02:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Just the other day, the Cincinnati Bengals signed Evan McPherson

3435
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:09,760
Speaker 2: and their kicker for a three year deal. Sixteen point

3436
02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:12,560
Speaker 2: five million dollars for a kicker. Would you have ever

3437
02:31:12,680 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 2: believe that Bucket Brooks really and truly and these fifty

3438
02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:18,960
Speaker 2: yard field goals are nothing nowadays? I mean it's commonplace.

3439
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, really and truly, it's crazy, it really is.

3440
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're worth it.

3441
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:28,920
Speaker 4: I think we have made it a joke about kickers

3442
02:31:28,959 --> 02:31:31,440
Speaker 4: and punters and they don't do anything, but yet we

3443
02:31:32,480 --> 02:31:34,400
Speaker 4: sit on the edge of our seats when they're asked

3444
02:31:34,440 --> 02:31:37,840
Speaker 4: to make a game winning kick from fifty yards away.

3445
02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:39,320
Speaker 3: These guys are valuable.

3446
02:31:39,400 --> 02:31:42,160
Speaker 4: These guys are often the leading scorer on their teams,

3447
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:45,200
Speaker 4: and so their value is and their ability to make

3448
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:48,840
Speaker 4: money kicks and long distance kicks. As we're seeing more

3449
02:31:49,200 --> 02:31:53,360
Speaker 4: field goal kick place kickers knock down these distance kicks

3450
02:31:53,400 --> 02:31:54,600
Speaker 4: from fifty plus yards.

3451
02:31:54,920 --> 02:31:56,920
Speaker 3: What it does is it shrinks to feel for the.

3452
02:31:56,959 --> 02:31:59,480
Speaker 4: Offense and it makes it easier for coaches to call

3453
02:31:59,560 --> 02:32:01,560
Speaker 4: plays because they know they have the security of walking

3454
02:32:01,600 --> 02:32:04,200
Speaker 4: away with three points. So kudos to these teams for

3455
02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:07,680
Speaker 4: paying the kickers and treating them like valuable members of

3456
02:32:07,720 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 4: the team because they are. And when you get a

3457
02:32:10,600 --> 02:32:12,480
Speaker 4: good one, you need to hold on to them because

3458
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:16,920
Speaker 4: justin Tucker's of the World, the Harrison Bookmers of the world.

3459
02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:19,480
Speaker 4: They're hard to find, hard to find money kickers that

3460
02:32:19,560 --> 02:32:21,000
Speaker 4: can be consistent over time.

3461
02:32:21,879 --> 02:32:23,879
Speaker 2: I agree with you there, I mean, but I will

3462
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:25,640
Speaker 2: tell you this much. They don't really work that hard.

3463
02:32:25,680 --> 02:32:28,600
Speaker 2: I watch practice. They're usually in another field by themselves,

3464
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:31,440
Speaker 2: just kicking the ball. Really, they're not getting hit, they're

3465
02:32:31,480 --> 02:32:34,320
Speaker 2: not killing themselves, just kicking footballs, which is a pretty

3466
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:36,160
Speaker 2: good deal, you know. And they got a talent, there's

3467
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:38,640
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. They got a talent. But I

3468
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:40,160
Speaker 2: want to go back to some of the moves that

3469
02:32:40,280 --> 02:32:42,360
Speaker 2: some of these teams have made that really put them

3470
02:32:42,400 --> 02:32:44,959
Speaker 2: in good contention here, and I'm going to go back

3471
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 2: over here.

3472
02:32:45,480 --> 02:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I got to question what move what they're going to

3473
02:32:48,320 --> 02:32:49,440
Speaker 1: do with the Raiders.

3474
02:32:49,720 --> 02:32:52,039
Speaker 2: What's going to happen a quarterback wquse I think right now,

3475
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:55,200
Speaker 2: certainly in preseason, I don't think they have any idea

3476
02:32:55,360 --> 02:32:59,360
Speaker 2: right now if Gardner Minshew or Aidan O'Connell is going

3477
02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:02,160
Speaker 2: to really walk away and say they're the starter.

3478
02:33:02,440 --> 02:33:04,039
Speaker 1: I think there's a big question over there.

3479
02:33:04,360 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 2: And as good as their defense may be and as

3480
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 2: good as the talent may be surrounding the quarterback. Unless

3481
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:13,000
Speaker 2: they have an A one quarterback, they ain't going anywhere.

3482
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:18,320
Speaker 3: True. I mean, I think there's a huge problem. It's

3483
02:33:18,320 --> 02:33:20,400
Speaker 3: a huge issue. They should have known that. They knew

3484
02:33:20,480 --> 02:33:22,119
Speaker 3: that going into the offseason.

3485
02:33:22,280 --> 02:33:24,520
Speaker 4: They thought they could kind of ride it out with

3486
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:27,760
Speaker 4: Garnamentchew and eight and O'Connell. It's proven to be a

3487
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:31,640
Speaker 4: little more challenging, I would say than anyone expected, and

3488
02:33:32,360 --> 02:33:33,720
Speaker 4: they don't have to figure out a way to win

3489
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 4: games in different means. The quarterback is a pivotal position,

3490
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:41,200
Speaker 4: but sometimes you can play around a quarterback.

3491
02:33:40,760 --> 02:33:43,720
Speaker 3: That isn't necessarily an A plus guy.

3492
02:33:43,840 --> 02:33:46,320
Speaker 4: It just requires the other pieces of the team to

3493
02:33:46,440 --> 02:33:49,240
Speaker 4: be so good and operate at such a high level

3494
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:51,000
Speaker 4: when you're doing that.

3495
02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:52,039
Speaker 3: But it can be done.

3496
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:54,000
Speaker 4: It has been done. It's just rare to do it

3497
02:33:54,120 --> 02:33:56,680
Speaker 4: consistently over the course of a full season. So we'll

3498
02:33:56,680 --> 02:33:58,000
Speaker 4: see if they can figure out a way to do it.

3499
02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:00,720
Speaker 4: APS's work cut out for him. It should have been

3500
02:34:00,879 --> 02:34:02,800
Speaker 4: addressed in the offseason, right.

3501
02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:04,000
Speaker 1: It really should have.

3502
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Now we talk about what's going to be addressed in

3503
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:08,440
Speaker 2: the offseason, which was not. I mean, let's talk about

3504
02:34:08,440 --> 02:34:11,200
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts for a second. With quarterback situation. Their

3505
02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:13,880
Speaker 2: second year quarterback Anthony Richardson, this is really his first

3506
02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:16,840
Speaker 2: year on they played last year they had that shoulder repaired.

3507
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:19,320
Speaker 2: That's going to be serious. I mean, I look at

3508
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:22,720
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's his thumb and his wrist. That's a big

3509
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:25,280
Speaker 2: deal too, because those are vulnerable spots where you can

3510
02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:28,840
Speaker 2: get hit when lineman got pushed into you. And now

3511
02:34:28,879 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 2: the shoulder situation in Indianapolis with Anthony Richardson, are we

3512
02:34:33,440 --> 02:34:36,680
Speaker 2: going to see Joe Flacco play again in Indianapolis? I

3513
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:38,800
Speaker 2: mean he's on the roster as at backup quarterback. I

3514
02:34:38,879 --> 02:34:41,039
Speaker 2: mean what happens now with Anthony Richardson.

3515
02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:47,400
Speaker 4: So look, man, this is Anthony Richardson's deal. Now, he's

3516
02:34:47,480 --> 02:34:50,920
Speaker 4: been off injured since he at school college, Like this

3517
02:34:51,120 --> 02:34:53,920
Speaker 4: is in his history. So when they signed Joe Flacco,

3518
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,840
Speaker 4: they signed him with the expectation that he was going

3519
02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:58,560
Speaker 4: to have to play, and we have to be prepared

3520
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:00,360
Speaker 4: to note that he is going to play.

3521
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:02,039
Speaker 3: That's just kind of what it is and what it's

3522
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:02,560
Speaker 3: going to be.

3523
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:07,440
Speaker 4: Super talented player and Anthony Richison, but man, Durabilly has

3524
02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:08,120
Speaker 4: been an issue for.

3525
02:35:08,200 --> 02:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Him certainly has I mean, just some people are just

3526
02:35:10,760 --> 02:35:12,760
Speaker 1: injury prone. They really are. He's one of them. I

3527
02:35:12,800 --> 02:35:14,840
Speaker 1: think Joe Burrows won too, I really do. You're not

3528
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:15,879
Speaker 1: going to count the you know.

3529
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:18,440
Speaker 2: An internal injury, you know, like an dependence, that's not

3530
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:22,240
Speaker 2: an injury really, it's a medical situation. But other injuries

3531
02:35:22,280 --> 02:35:24,640
Speaker 2: they come around and that some people are. So we'll

3532
02:35:24,640 --> 02:35:26,560
Speaker 2: see what happens. And you don't wish any injury, you

3533
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:28,920
Speaker 2: really don't. You want to see a team win full strength,

3534
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:31,400
Speaker 2: that's what you want to do. Bucky brooks Andy Firm

3535
02:35:31,440 --> 02:35:33,640
Speaker 2: way off full strength right here, Fox Sports Sun there

3536
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:36,879
Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Radio. It's new, it's exciting, it's yay

3537
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:41,600
Speaker 2: r nay and it's next yay or nay coming right up.

3538
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:43,760
Speaker 2: It's about eleven minutes now before the top of the hour,

3539
02:35:43,800 --> 02:35:46,360
Speaker 2: and this is Fox Sports Sun. They were live for

3540
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:48,240
Speaker 2: the tire Rock dot Com studios. By the way, at

3541
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:50,760
Speaker 2: the top of the hour, they'll be ten am Eastern time,

3542
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:55,080
Speaker 2: count down to kickoff of My guys Brian Know, Jeff Schwartz,

3543
02:35:55,160 --> 02:35:58,000
Speaker 2: Bill Krocknberger. They'll be here ten am easton right here

3544
02:35:58,040 --> 02:36:00,680
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. And a shout we have to

3545
02:36:00,760 --> 02:36:03,400
Speaker 2: do this bucket to our great staff, what great work

3546
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Wyo with the updates. Now iilo come in with

3547
02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:09,039
Speaker 2: the updates. The Magic Man himself, Mark Ramsey and Chris

3548
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:12,320
Speaker 2: Purfett doing the sound right here, and Shay Shay, the

3549
02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:15,560
Speaker 2: main man. Shay Shay, let's play, Yay Ornay.

3550
02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

3551
02:36:16,800 --> 02:36:18,520
Speaker 7: Let's do it, guys. And this is a new game

3552
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:20,000
Speaker 7: for me, so I'm sure it's new for a couple

3553
02:36:20,000 --> 02:36:22,640
Speaker 7: of people out there. For our listeners. I basically will

3554
02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:26,280
Speaker 7: tell scenarios within the sports world to Bucky and Andy

3555
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:28,560
Speaker 7: and they'll tell me if it's the AA or nay.

3556
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:32,680
Speaker 7: So let's get right into it. The price that the

3557
02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:36,080
Speaker 7: Yankees jersey worn by Babe Ruth during the Colt Shot

3558
02:36:36,200 --> 02:36:39,320
Speaker 7: game in the nineteen thirty two World Series could be

3559
02:36:39,440 --> 02:36:43,840
Speaker 7: sold for thirty million dollars according to the Heritage Auctions

3560
02:36:44,200 --> 02:36:46,000
Speaker 7: Andy yay or nay.

3561
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:49,440
Speaker 2: I say nay, nay two names. Number one, I wouldn't

3562
02:36:49,440 --> 02:36:51,440
Speaker 2: pay three dollars, let alone thirty million.

3563
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:52,240
Speaker 1: And number two.

3564
02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't believe there was a cold shot. I think

3565
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:56,480
Speaker 2: that was just done for Hollywood. I don't think Babe

3566
02:36:56,560 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 2: Ruth ever had a cold shot in that World service.

3567
02:36:58,920 --> 02:37:00,840
Speaker 2: So I say nay again.

3568
02:37:02,320 --> 02:37:03,960
Speaker 3: Wow, I believe he called the shot. I believe you

3569
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:04,440
Speaker 3: call the shot.

3570
02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:06,560
Speaker 4: I believe someone's out there willing to pay that money

3571
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:08,440
Speaker 4: as a piece of history's nostalgic.

3572
02:37:08,600 --> 02:37:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they'll drop the depict What else you're

3573
02:37:10,640 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 3: gonna do with all the money when you're a billionaire, Yeah, make.

3574
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:16,400
Speaker 7: The money charities, Give it to charities, and get mad

3575
02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:21,360
Speaker 7: about sand cure cancer. Despite losing the first round of

3576
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:24,440
Speaker 7: the playoffs last season, the Lakers led the NBA with

3577
02:37:24,520 --> 02:37:28,600
Speaker 7: thirty nine nationally televised games next season, yay or nay?

3578
02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Fucking is Lebron James farewell Tour potentially?

3579
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta see Bron and Bronni see if the

3580
02:37:36,879 --> 02:37:39,720
Speaker 4: dynamic duo can lead the Great Lakers back to relevance.

3581
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:41,280
Speaker 3: So I understand it.

3582
02:37:41,879 --> 02:37:44,240
Speaker 4: We talk about teams like the Dallas Cowboys that are

3583
02:37:44,320 --> 02:37:45,120
Speaker 4: national brands.

3584
02:37:45,480 --> 02:37:47,959
Speaker 3: This is a national brand in terms of the Lakers.

3585
02:37:48,600 --> 02:37:51,520
Speaker 1: As much as I hate to agree with Bucky Brooks,

3586
02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the YA because number one, we

3587
02:37:54,560 --> 02:37:57,760
Speaker 1: don't watch teams, We watch individuals, and I love Lebron

3588
02:37:57,840 --> 02:37:59,480
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be the farewell tour.

3589
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:03,080
Speaker 2: I want to see Lebron every night, not thirty nine times.

3590
02:38:03,280 --> 02:38:05,160
Speaker 2: I want to see him forty one times. I want

3591
02:38:05,200 --> 02:38:07,160
Speaker 2: to seehim eighty two times. I want to see him

3592
02:38:07,160 --> 02:38:10,160
Speaker 2: all the time because he's a generational player and I

3593
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:10,880
Speaker 2: want to see him.

3594
02:38:10,920 --> 02:38:11,760
Speaker 1: So I say yay.

3595
02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:15,800
Speaker 7: The college football playoffs expand this season to twelve teams.

3596
02:38:16,120 --> 02:38:18,560
Speaker 7: Will we see a team in the playoffs with three losses?

3597
02:38:18,920 --> 02:38:19,760
Speaker 7: Yay or nay?

3598
02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:23,480
Speaker 2: Andy, I say yay, because look, you have the college

3599
02:38:23,840 --> 02:38:26,960
Speaker 2: conferences that get guaranteed births, so there's a good chance

3600
02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:28,920
Speaker 2: that after the guaranteed berth you're gonna get a team

3601
02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:29,560
Speaker 2: with three losses.

3602
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:30,640
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind.

3603
02:38:30,720 --> 02:38:32,360
Speaker 2: So I think it's good. I think they got twelve

3604
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:35,040
Speaker 2: teams in there. We're gonna see some real tough competition.

3605
02:38:35,440 --> 02:38:37,240
Speaker 2: And in the years past, we saw a team that

3606
02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:39,960
Speaker 2: maybe had one or perhaps two losses where they Noah's

3607
02:38:39,959 --> 02:38:42,800
Speaker 2: perched against the window, couldn't getting in. I like teams,

3608
02:38:42,879 --> 02:38:45,320
Speaker 2: but maybe three losses getting in They'll be great.

3609
02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:46,119
Speaker 1: I love it. Yay.

3610
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

3611
02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 4: I think with the conference champions going in, you have

3612
02:38:51,640 --> 02:38:54,160
Speaker 4: to be comfortable seeing a team with three losses or

3613
02:38:54,280 --> 02:38:57,040
Speaker 4: more in the playoffs just because of the conference champion.

3614
02:38:57,120 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 3: I do not believe a wildcard team can get in

3615
02:39:00,040 --> 02:39:00,720
Speaker 3: with three losses.

3616
02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:05,720
Speaker 7: Though yay or nay, The NBA will continue, oh sorry, yeah,

3617
02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:08,640
Speaker 7: continue its Cup series this coming season with six first

3618
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:12,120
Speaker 7: round games. Games will be played on Tuesday, November twelfth,

3619
02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:16,160
Speaker 7: nineteenth and the twenty sixth, and Friday November fifteenth, twenty second,

3620
02:39:16,280 --> 02:39:17,119
Speaker 7: and the twenty ninth.

3621
02:39:17,400 --> 02:39:18,840
Speaker 3: Bucky, yay or nay.

3622
02:39:23,080 --> 02:39:24,640
Speaker 4: I'll say yay, like I'll just kind of go with

3623
02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:27,600
Speaker 4: it as scripted. Look, I think everyone wants to see it,

3624
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:28,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with it.

3625
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:30,080
Speaker 3: I'm okay with it. That's fine.

3626
02:39:30,440 --> 02:39:32,520
Speaker 2: As much as I have basketball, I love basketball being

3627
02:39:32,520 --> 02:39:33,520
Speaker 2: an NBA O college.

3628
02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:36,680
Speaker 1: This is a nay. This is a capital may because

3629
02:39:36,760 --> 02:39:39,200
Speaker 1: this is not soccer. This is basketball.

3630
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:41,560
Speaker 2: You don't break up the season, stop it in the

3631
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:44,680
Speaker 2: middle and start doing these tournament games, these cup series.

3632
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:47,080
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. I don't want to see it. I don't

3633
02:39:47,160 --> 02:39:49,480
Speaker 2: like what they have at MLS. MLS they take the

3634
02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:51,600
Speaker 2: players away in the middle of the season, forget it,

3635
02:39:51,959 --> 02:39:54,240
Speaker 2: nay ny and I can't even figure out.

3636
02:39:54,120 --> 02:39:55,560
Speaker 1: Who plays when they played.

3637
02:39:55,760 --> 02:39:58,840
Speaker 7: Sony rick Hill, a left hander who has pitched for

3638
02:39:58,959 --> 02:40:01,840
Speaker 7: thirteen MLB teams, just signed a minor League contract with

3639
02:40:01,879 --> 02:40:02,800
Speaker 7: the Boston Red Sox.

3640
02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Darrey mentioned he is forty four. Yay or nay?

3641
02:40:06,360 --> 02:40:09,240
Speaker 2: Andy, Nay, you're forty four years of age. The only

3642
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:11,680
Speaker 2: reason you're doing this you're probably flat broke. You probably

3643
02:40:11,720 --> 02:40:14,320
Speaker 2: need the money. Go away, get a job, go to

3644
02:40:14,440 --> 02:40:18,280
Speaker 2: McDonald's and do some hamburgers. Okay, forty four, you're too old,

3645
02:40:18,520 --> 02:40:21,879
Speaker 2: go away please? You played on thirteen teams?

3646
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:25,200
Speaker 3: Wait, man, I mean Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers. There a

3647
02:40:25,240 --> 02:40:27,320
Speaker 3: bunch of forty year old guys and are still trying

3648
02:40:27,360 --> 02:40:30,760
Speaker 3: to play. Like, what are we talking about? Talk about them?

3649
02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:32,560
Speaker 3: You know he's been there play.

3650
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:36,000
Speaker 1: This guy's a loser. He's been there, he's always thirteen.

3651
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:37,200
Speaker 3: He's so disrespectful.

3652
02:40:37,600 --> 02:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Way that's me. He's a loser.

3653
02:40:39,160 --> 02:40:41,039
Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he's a vagabond.

3654
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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to see you next week, book,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. God bless you.

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Speaker 2: State duned count out the kickoff coming up next right here,

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