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They're not contesting that he 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: did assault Paul Pelosi. 29 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: But you'll see what the defense came up with, kind 30 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: of a mental illness defense. But we'll get into that. 31 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: Apparently this man was drawn into deep, deep, deep conspiracy theories, David. 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: De pape Deppe. So we'll tell you about that. 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: Hammering Paul Pelosi would have solved the world's problems. 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 4: It was kind of a coincidence. Yeah, you'll hear their 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: very tortured logic. They try to sell the joy, just 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: their opening statements. 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: Lawyers really suck, don't they. 38 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: We now present to use some audio from well some 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: of the protesters. 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: It was a pro Palestinian rally. 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: Looks like it's coming from the UK, so these people 42 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: were going to hear a British it's two young women who, 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: according to this Daily Mail story, appear to be in 44 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: their twenties. They were stopped by reporters and asked some 45 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: questions about the whole Israel Hamas story and basically what 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: they knew and did not know about what was going 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: on in that part of the world. It was a 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: video shared on Twitter by campaign against anti Semitism, and 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: an interviewer starts asking the girls questions, let's go with 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: the audio. 51 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: The mass saw that class as a prescribed terrorist organization. 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 5: Do you think the UK's made the wrong decision? 53 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Of course, it's. 54 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 6: Not Hamas the terrorist, it's America the terrorist. 55 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: No, and the Isrists not Hamas. 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 7: In the UK. 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 5: Hamas are a prescribed terrorist organization. Do you think the 58 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 5: government has made the right or the wrong decision in 59 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: doing that? 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 6: Well, it's controversial, but I think her mass of freedom 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 6: fighters on. 62 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 5: The seventh of October, when Hamas invaded Israel, what was 63 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: your initial reaction to that too? 64 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 6: Honestly, it showed signs. This was resistance against the occupation, 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 6: against the Palestinians. Honestly, it was a beacon of hope. 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 6: With me, it was not it was to me, it 67 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 6: was them fighting back and showing resistance. 68 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 8: I think the fact that everyone ran with the forty 69 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 8: beheaded baby stories without any any out of verification, any 70 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 8: out of integrity, is disgusting. The continued existence of Israel 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 8: is a war crime. 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: With her mass invaded in Israel on the seventh of October, 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: what was your initial reaction to them? 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: I didn't believe they did it, though, I think so Honestly, 75 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: I think I need to be a bit more clued 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: up and like everything that's going on. So I feel 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: like I'm not really qualified to answer that. 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not sure if I've seen anything that 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 6: actual shows that that's actually happened off actually correct. 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: So in the UK, her Masks are regarded as a 81 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 5: prescribed terrorist organization officially, what do you think of that? 82 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 6: They are freedom fighters. They are not terrorists as a 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 6: media portrays them to be. They're fighting for the right 84 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 6: to their land. It's their land, they're the right to 85 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 6: self defense and they're not what. They're not terrorists, they 86 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 6: are absolutely not. 87 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: What are you gonna do, Well, there's a lot to 88 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: unpack it. The Israel pulled out of the guy's a 89 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: strip in two thousand and five. They haven't been there 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: in a long time, so there's no occupation going on. 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: There was no invasion by Israel going on. 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: No, they weren't. 93 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: Hamas was not defending itself. It just it was pure 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: a terrorist, unprovoked terrorist act. That's the fact. That's the reality. 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: But most people don't know crap, They really don't. They 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: just show up for these rallies and get caught up. 97 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: In the emotional moment. 98 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know this said it was taken last month, 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: so it may have been just after the terrorist attacks 100 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: of October seventh, which is why one of them I 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: need to be more cleared up. And there was like, 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: there's no proof that they did that. I don't know 103 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: what date this was. It's just as last months could 104 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: have been a dance. You'll still find plenty of people 105 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: who say. 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: That, you know, they they it could have been live 107 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: streamed right to their stupid phone and they wouldn't believe it. 108 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: Nothing matters anymore, No facts matter, no reality matters. Just 109 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: make up whatever you want to make up to justify 110 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: whatever wacky thing you believe in the. 111 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: US of the terrorists. Israel is the terrorists. 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: Right right, because we invaded Gaza and the Israelis invaded Gaza. 113 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: Sure that's what happened. Okay, what is it? 114 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: What is the point of even talking to anybody? Ah? No, 115 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: I guess not. 116 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: The spokesperson for the Campaign against Anti Semitism said, this 117 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: footage showcases the toxic combination of ignorance and support for 118 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: terrorism that motivates too many of the protesters at these marches. 119 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: You know, terrorism and violence is way more popular than 120 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: I would have guessed. Well, they've got a lot of 121 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: people have did no problems with all the viciousness that 122 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: Hamas committed. 123 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: One of the US posters, and I forget which one 124 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: it was, and I don't remember it was a politician 125 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: was making the point, this is days after the attack, 126 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: that oh, you know what, I think it was Black 127 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: lives matter. That what they posted was, think of the 128 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: history of the world, you need violence sometimes. Look at 129 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: the US and the revolution against the British and the 130 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: British rule. Right, there was lots of bloodshed. Oh, you 131 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: do need violence sometimes. I don't know it was necessarily terrorism. 132 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: I don't know that we were running over and killing 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: British babies, but there. 134 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Certainly was violence. 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're saying sometimes things are not achieved without violence. 136 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: That was their way of accept rationalizing a Hamas attack. 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: Except if you look at the specifics of the gods 138 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: of situation which you have is a terrorist group running it. 139 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: They deny modern life to their citizens, and you have 140 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: those Hamas leaders living in Qatar and sitting on eleven 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: billion dollars that should be going to the population. 142 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: But here's sad truth, the truth of it. In a 143 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: quote fair fight, Hamas has no chance against Israel. Right, 144 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: if you just line them up the way we conducted 145 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: wars in the past, you know, Hamas would be would 146 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: be wiped out. 147 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: So that's why they resort to terrorism. 148 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: They resort to these attacks on civilians because they're just 149 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: trying to make everybody feel like they're not safe and 150 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: they need to capitulate that. They feel like that's the 151 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: only card they can play. 152 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: You know what. 153 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: AMAS is not only vicious and brutal to the Israelis, 154 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: they are vicious to their own people. So I am 155 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: rooting for Israel to wipe out every single last AMAS soldier, 156 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: every one of them. 157 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have grabbed whatever resources that go to Gaza, 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: and they've spent it on either arming themselves or having 159 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: a nice life. We found out yesterday that group that 160 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: hangs out in Qatar. 161 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Right, they use the Gozans as human shields. 162 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: Why anybody would have any emotional attachment to Hamas because 163 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: they will the dozens as quickly as they'll kill the Israelis, 164 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't matter to them? 165 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: Right? 166 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: These are these are these are schlobs living in guitar 167 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: on billions of dollars. 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: All right, when we return, you'll have a chance to 169 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: win some money, so be listening for the keyword. After that, 170 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about the trial that began. John, 171 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: it was October twenty eighth, twenty twenty two, so it 172 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: was almost exactly a year ago when Paul Pelosi was 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: beaten with a hammer in his home in Pacific Heights 174 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 4: section of San Francisco. Nancy Pelosi wasn't home. The trial 175 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: has begun for the man who was arrested for that crime. 176 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: And when we come back, we'll tell you part of 177 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: what the defense is planning in their opening statements. 178 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 179 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 180 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: All right, it was just over a year ago. 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: The biggest story going October twenty eighth, twenty twenty two 182 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: was the attack on the husband of Nancy Pelosi, Paul Pelosi, 183 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: and they actually have a still picture. The cops were 184 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: called to the residents because Pelosi was able to slip 185 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: into the bathroom and call nine to one one and 186 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: try to cryptically tell them what was going on. Again, 187 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: there was no security at the Pelosi home that night, 188 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: although there's cameras, but nobody's watching them all the time. 189 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: So the cops get there and I'm looking at a 190 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: still picture of the San Francisco Chronicle. What they see 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 4: is Pelosi wearing a button down pajama top, but he 192 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: has no bottoms. It's like a boxer short on. And 193 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 4: then this attacker, Brian or David de Pepe de Pape, 194 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 4: who they're both holding a hammer when the door opens, 195 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: and the police basically want to know what's going on. 196 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: Next thing they know, de Pape swings it at Pelosi 197 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: and fractures his skull, serious injuries. So a year later, 198 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: we actually have two cases the feds, and that's the 199 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: trial that opened today. The federal case again to him, 200 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: obviously because Nancy Pelosi was is a US congresswoman, so 201 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: this was a federal but also the San Francisco Die's 202 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: office has a case against this man as well. So 203 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: one of the questions we're asking is, well, what is 204 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: the defense gonna do. It's pretty clear what happened. The 205 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: cops actually had body camera. 206 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: Footage of the attack as the door opened, and you 207 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: could see him swinging the hammer at Plosi. 208 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: So what the defense attorney started off with was reading 209 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: some things that almost didn't seem to make sense. Tom Hanks, 210 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: the actor raped the thirteen year old girl. Then he 211 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: went on about Hunter Biden's corruption, Adam Shift being an 212 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 4: abuser of children, George Sorow's unimaginable wealth. What he was 213 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: trying to do is the defense attorney's Jody Linker, was 214 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: tell the joy that this guy was caught up in 215 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: a vast web of conspiracy theories. 216 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh, none of that's true. 217 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: The evidence in this tribals show that mister Depappe believes 218 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: all these things with every ounce of his being. 219 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: Well, it might be true. I don't know. You'll have 220 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: to look those up yourself. And the side the Shift 221 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: thing's not. 222 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 4: True is w does that be the Pizza Gate thing 223 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: that he was also one of those that was a 224 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: child sex predator. 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, Hillary, whatever it is? 226 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: That okay anyway, So rather than dispute what happened that night, 227 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: they're saying this is not a who done it? 228 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: This is a why done it? That doesn't matter. 229 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 4: The defense attorney said Pelosi was not his target, but 230 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: rather upon he had to knock down to wage a 231 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: larger crusade against perceived government malfeasance. 232 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: He argued that the. 233 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: Reason he broke into a bad lawyer, I know, had 234 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: nothing to do with Pelosi's role as a congresswoman and 235 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: of course speaker. He wanted to effectuate the larger plan 236 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: of targeting other politicians and actors. 237 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: So this is not an insanity defense. Oh, it gets 238 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: even crazier here. 239 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: The main target, as it turns out, according to the defense, 240 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: was an associate professor of anthropology at the University of 241 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: Michigan who Pelosi would help him lure out. 242 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: This woman. 243 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: Her name is Gail Rubin, a prominent feminist thinker. So 244 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: that's he goes there to use Nancy Pelosi to lure 245 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: out this anthropology professor at Michigan. 246 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: So he wanted to act the professor with the hammer, 247 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: except she was in Michigan. 248 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: He only wanted to use the hammer to make his 249 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: case that this was serious. John and the Zip tiest 250 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 4: with him too. 251 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: Oh he would have sold me. I mean, yeah, take 252 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 3: a hammer out and try to get a pression in 253 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: the head. Sure you're serious, you know, did this lawyer. 254 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Get hit in the head? What is he going to do? 255 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't just say guilty, waste sentenced, so somebody on 256 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: the jury will feel a little soft. Bad things happen. 257 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: I honestly do not be not hang the case. 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: But maybe when it comes to, you know, the actual 259 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: vote on the charges, maybe leave one of them off 260 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 4: or some. 261 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: I don't I really don't get it. I mean, there's 262 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do. But if you're going to 263 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: try something crazy, you got to go with invisible voices 264 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: in his head. And his invisible voice is upset with 265 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 3: all the weird conspiracies going on and the child abuse 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: and the child rapes and all this, and so the 267 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: voice was commanding him to right these wrongs and start 268 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: with Pelosi. And remember he spoke to police after he 269 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: did this, and he pretty much admitted he was there 270 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: to take Nancy Pelosi hostage, because the great thing about 271 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: mental illness is you can fake it and nobody can 272 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: prove you wrong if you tell people consistently the same 273 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: story that the voice is commanded me to hit Paul 274 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: Pelosi in the head with a hammer. 275 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe you'll get a couple of jurists to 276 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: go for it. That's right, We really believe that you 277 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: were doing this because you right or wrong. Can't disprove it. 278 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean, if I told you I had voices in 279 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: my head every day, you'd believe it, right. 280 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: The prosecution said. The FBI found on his computer various 281 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: details about Nancy Pelosi and their family, included addresses and names. 282 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: They found a filed and a folder on his computer 283 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: titled favorite Politicians, adding that the folder included information on 284 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: other public figures? 285 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Who was collecting information on? You know what? Didn't we 286 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: hear later that he was possibly going to target Newsom? 287 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Was it Newsom? I think it was was on his list? 288 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he had a bigger list. I forgot 289 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: who's on it. You know, it's weird, and this always 290 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: comes up in crime stories. You know, you can break 291 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: people into like two groups, two broad groups, like rational 292 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: people and then crazy people. Right, and rational people because 293 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: they think rationally all day or most of the day, 294 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: can't follow crazy. 295 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: They say, well, why would they do that? Why didn't 296 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: they do this? I mean, I don't. 297 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: Understand what kind of a person would do It's crazy. 298 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: There's no pattern to it. There's no reason that you're 299 00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: going to understand. 300 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Can't possibly try to. 301 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: They got weird impulses, They got a lot of noise 302 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: in their head. They got the dogs barking at them all. 303 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: You look at he hit an old guy in the 304 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: head with a hammer, nearly killed him. 305 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: That's all you got to know. Why is everybody wrestling 306 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: with the whys cares? 307 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 308 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Look at this, this is new. 309 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: They played a recording of an alleged phone call that 310 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: de Pape made to a local television station. He said 311 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: that he had an important message for everyone in America, 312 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: and the message was, you're welcome. We need men of valor. 313 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: I want to apologize to everyone. I messed up. I'm 314 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: so sorry I didn't get more of them. I should 315 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: have come better prepared. 316 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Look at that. I should have brought more hammers. 317 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: I guess after they released them on Bailey went and 318 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: made a phone call to a TV station. Yeah, and 319 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: by the way, let's remember what the hammer was for, 320 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: to break her kneecaps if she did not cooperate, the 321 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: old broken kneecap hammer, that's what he did to do. 322 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: He broke Pelosi's head. 323 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, had He's had surgery to repair a skull fracture, 324 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: and he had wounds to his right arm and his hands. 325 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: And it's just fascinating to me. It happened so quickly 326 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: because the police were right there. I mean they open 327 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: the door. 328 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: That they weren't. 329 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: I guess he just quickly swung that hammer before they 330 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: could grab it from. 331 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were both holding the hammer, right, the Pelosi 332 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: and whack Job. Here we're holding the hammer. 333 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: But whack Job's younger and stronger, right, And the police 334 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: stood back for a couple of seconds. 335 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: They didn't charge in right away and try to distract. 336 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: And figure out what was going on. Yeah, they didn't understand. 337 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: So he gave him a small opening to wrestle the 338 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: hammer away, right, because Paul Pulose, he's eighty two years old. 339 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: Of course this guy's going to wrestle it away. Yeah, guys, 340 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: and then whack I thought the police botched that up. 341 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: They were just standing and staring too. 342 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: Well. 343 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: I know, you see two people with a hammer, you 344 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: just get in there and grab that hammer. 345 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: Whoever, don't think react. That's what you're the training is for. 346 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: As you react. 347 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 348 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 7: A six forty. 349 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Moist Line is coming back tomorrow during 350 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 4: this hour, So if you'd like to leave a message, 351 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: go ahead and do it using that app the microphone 352 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: icon or called the toll free number one eight seven 353 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 4: seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven six six 354 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: four seven eight eight six. Well, we have talked about 355 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: this a number of times on the show in the 356 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: last few years. When the Communists and Sacramento decide they're 357 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: going to set wages working conditions, they're basically going to 358 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 4: take over private industry. This is what they do in 359 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: communist countries, right, everything is government run, supposed to be 360 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: the most efficient and fair for the people. Well, we 361 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 4: saw this happen with the fast food story. 362 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: Right. 363 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 4: They tried to basically take over the wages and working 364 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 4: conditions for people who work in fast food restaurants around 365 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: the state, and that resulted in a back and forth 366 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: where eventually they made a deal. But it's still going 367 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: to raise the wages, which probably means you're going to 368 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: pay more when you go to your Chipotle or McDonald's. 369 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: Another one they did which is kind of boomeranged in 370 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 4: their face because with the fast food companies, when they 371 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: raised the minimum wage, what they're going to turn around 372 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: and do is either firesome people or raise your cost 373 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: of your hamburger. This one is going to boomerang back 374 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: on us the taxpayers. Newsom signed Senate Bill five to 375 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: two five into law, and this is going to raise 376 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: the minimum wage for healthcare workers in the state. And 377 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 4: when I first read this, I didn't read this. Clearly, 378 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 4: it's not just the people that work in the hospital room, nurses, technicians, 379 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: doctors or not doctors, but assistants. It's even the cleaners 380 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: and the security guards and the gift shop workers. 381 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: The gift shop workers, yes, twenty five dollars an hour. 382 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: Oh no, well, yeah, twenty five dollars an hour. 383 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: That's right. So that worked at a gift shop once 384 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: in a hospital. Oh not in a hospital. In a hotel, 385 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: you make like two dollars an hour, I think, so 386 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: it was like forty years ago, but sure less than five. 387 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 4: So here's the thing. When they passed this bill, they 388 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: didn't know what the price tag would be. See, there's 389 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: something called medical and calif California's Medicaid program, which means 390 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: the bills come back to the state for some people 391 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: at these hospitals. 392 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to pay. And the federal government, God, 393 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: they're so bad. They do this on purpose. 394 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: They pass a bill not knowing what it's gonna cost, 395 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: and they don't care because it. 396 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Was the right thing to do. We'll worry about that later. 397 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: Is kind of how they do it. It's the right 398 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: thing to do for the workers. 399 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 4: Well, now we found out for the twenty twenty four 400 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: to twenty five fiscal year, it's four billion dollars at 401 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: California's gonna be hit with because they did this. It 402 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: is one of the most expensive laws that California has 403 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: seen in years. This is bad and even as the 404 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: Time says, comes as the state already faces a fourteen 405 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: billion dollar budget. Depth, you give twenty five dollars an 406 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: hour to a hotel, to a gift shop clerk, a 407 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: jample to clean the rooms, security guards, right, and anybody 408 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: that works at the hospital is covered by this. 409 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: The guy who cleans up the diarrheta, he gets twenty 410 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: five dollars an hour or two. 411 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: I liked with the time Soft pedaled. 412 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 9: This. 413 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: What lawmakers didn't fully account for as they scrambled in 414 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: the final days to broker a deal between unions and hospitals, 415 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: is how much it would cost a state or what 416 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 4: might have to be cut to pay for it. Oh, 417 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: they knew they just didn't want that to be don't 418 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: be publicized. 419 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: Here's another concept people don't get. 420 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: Remember I was saying how people don't understand rational, people 421 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: don't understand crazy. Another thing people do not understand is 422 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: that virtually everybody in political public life, in government doesn't care. 423 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: You could stand on the street raise awareness, shake your fist, 424 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: wave your flag. Nobody inside the building's care. They know 425 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: they're blowing billions of dollars. Doesn't matter to them, not 426 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: their money. They care and publicly. 427 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: Newsome was vetoing some bills that he said, well, we're 428 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 4: in a deficit situation, maybe so one of them was, 429 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: you know, colleges have to pay for diagnostic assessments for 430 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: students with disabilities. 431 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: That would have been five million annually. He vetoed it. 432 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: A bill would have expanded cash assistance for aged, blind 433 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: and disabled immigrants. 434 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: He also vetoed, is that bill they blew it all? 435 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: Do you know what? That's only AE hundred million. 436 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: The four billion dollar minimum wage bill for healthcare workers. 437 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I. 438 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 4: Signed that one because you know, because we don't know 439 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: how much it's gonna cost. 440 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: You what he knew would be in the billions. 441 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: Did you notice who else is getting twenty five bucks 442 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: an hour. No launderers, what all the hospital laundry people? Yeah, 443 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: the guys who dumped the laundry into the washing machine. 444 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: That's twenty five dollars an hour. Now, well, some sheets 445 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: are pretty nicky. Wear gloves in the hospital clothing and. 446 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: Sheetsde got people dumped dirty laundry twenty five bucks an hour? 447 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: Whoa. 448 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: It's unclear whether other state programs will be cut to 449 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: make room for the wage hikes. Course they will, but 450 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: expect state lawmakers to rush to write bills when the 451 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 4: legislature returns in January to it. 452 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to rush to write bills. No, they're not. 453 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: If this deficit grows, they're going to start talking tax 454 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: hikes again. I don't know if you saw the story 455 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 4: last week, but the state is running way behind. 456 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: In tax collections this year. Now. 457 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: One of the reasons for that is they kept extending 458 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: the filing time. Remember they pushed it to November fifteenth, 459 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: it was October. 460 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: So does that means some people that have to tell 461 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 3: you the state money have been waiting next week? There 462 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: ought to be uh, there should be a rush of 463 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: money coming in. 464 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. If not, then were really up Bleep Creek. 465 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: Did you see one of the reasons Jeff Bezos is 466 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: moving from Washington State to Miami? 467 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: Taxes. 468 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: Washington has this wealth tax idea, they tax you on 469 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: your net worth and it would cost him a billion 470 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: and a half dollars. 471 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: The total I want to live in the Seattle area 472 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: for that. 473 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: The total amount of money the state is expecting to 474 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 3: get from this idea if it passes, would be about 475 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: three and a half billion. A billion and a half 476 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: of that would be just Bezos. So he said, fu, 477 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: and he moved. 478 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: They discussed the same thing in Sacramento, although Newsom said 479 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 4: that's a non started. We're not going to have a 480 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: well task because people are already moving. The tech industry 481 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 4: is already moving to places like Miami and taxes where 482 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 4: there's zero income tax. Why what are you going to 483 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: give away fourteen percent? I read Dodger fans were moaning 484 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: after Corey Seeger w won the MVP in the World 485 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: Series for the Rangers. Well, they said, part of the 486 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: reason that he went from the Dodgers to Texas was 487 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: the fourteen percent income tax. The Dodgers weren't going to 488 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: give an extra fourteen percent to cover it. 489 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 9: So go go to Texas and you win the World 490 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 9: Series anyway. There, Uh, that's well, yeah, I mean that's 491 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 9: why the two Texas teams were both in the in 492 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 9: the in the championship round. 493 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: Now looks like, I guess the state of Washington another 494 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: place that doesn't have a state income tax, So I 495 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: guess they kept Bezos there for that. 496 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: Imagine you had to pay a state income tax. 497 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 3: But they're gonna they're gonna nail him on the back 498 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: end wealth go for the wealth tax. 499 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Just think of something else, because this way we're really 500 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: going on to just the very wealthing. 501 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 502 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 7: A M. 503 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: Six forty and then after four o'clock if you missed 504 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: up Johnny Cannon, demand the podcast. 505 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: Also on the iHeart app. 506 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: Hundreds of anti Israeli protesters occupied the lobby of the 507 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: New York Times building today. 508 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Is that right? 509 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 4: They called to the elimination of the Jewish state and 510 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: the accus Joe Biden the backing genocide. They labeled Israel 511 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: to terrorist state. From river to the sea, Palestine will 512 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 4: be free, Biden. Biden, you can't hide your supporting genocide. 513 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: This is some of the chants. They occupied the lobby 514 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: as they chanted outside of it, handed out mock newspaper 515 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: copies of the New York War crimes. 516 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 517 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: They find the Times is too sympathetic to Israel and 518 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 3: the Times even printed the Hamas propaganda about the Israelis. 519 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: Sending a missile at the hospital. 520 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: Remember, oh, they bought the Hamas version, right, they were 521 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: pushing Hamas propaganda. 522 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: What do you I don't know. 523 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: I don't read the paper every day, so I don't 524 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 4: know what else is in there. We will continue holding 525 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 4: the New York Times to account for in citing genocide. 526 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: The chance boomed. Not another nickel, not another dime, No 527 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 4: more money for the New York Times. 528 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 529 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, after New York Times tell the truth they chanted 530 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: good immigration system we have. 531 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: They look at this. No arrests were made. This is 532 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: eventually disbanded around six pm. New York Times. 533 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: This is lovely diversity? Is This is what America is 534 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: gonna end up like. 535 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: Just constant fighting and feuding and vitriol and tribal warfare 536 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: going on. 537 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: All right now. 538 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: From the category of oh that's gotta hurt. A carpenter 539 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: by the name of Timothy kole Hey twenty eight years old. 540 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: He was fastening down plywood in the Bay Area a 541 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: couple of years ago using one of those nail guns, 542 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 4: the Hitachi pneumatic nailer. Well, it missed, fired and shot 543 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: two nails at the same time. One of the nails 544 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: struck the other and sent it through the carpenter's tongue 545 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 4: and into his skull. Oh, you know, nail guns make 546 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: me very nervous when I see guys work in construction, 547 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: the art just something about them. 548 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: Just run the speed on. 549 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: Holy So wait, if it went through the tongue, then 550 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: it went up past the tongue, I guess, into the 551 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: palate and then through the sinus, and did I reach 552 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: the brain? 553 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 4: It said he had to have surgeries to repair his tongue, 554 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: his palate, his nasal septum, his sinuses, his skull and 555 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: a fractured jaw. Oh suing the nail gun company. That's 556 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: why it's in the news. He went into a shock. 557 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 4: He was rushed to a hospital. 558 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Where they had to remove the fastener because I guess 559 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: it got stuck. 560 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, there's a picture. Oh did you see the picture. No, no, 561 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: it's a long nail. I need that like a nail 562 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: in the head. 563 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh h post he put in the pile. He didn't 564 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: put in the pile well, and I got the print 565 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: out here. They don't show the pictures. Oh man. 566 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: You know, I don't like to see X ray pictures 567 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: of the inside of the body, you know, those human 568 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: body exhibits. I can't go to those where they showed 569 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: like the insides of us. And this you can see 570 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: his teeth and his spine, his neck, and oh you 571 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: can see his brain and then all this nail. 572 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now. Oh no, no, no, oh wow, 573 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: look at that nail. 574 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 4: So that took a while to get that out of 575 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: his Yeah, that's what he went to his tongue and 576 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: up to his upper mouth. 577 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: I guess it hit the skull and he had a 578 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: thick enough skull that had stopped the nail. Oh, penetrating further. 579 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: Oh that'll that'll ruin your day. Oh my god. 580 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: He is racked over four hundred thousand dollars in medical 581 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: bills and lost out. The lawsuit says I'm thirty grand 582 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: in wages as a result of this. Happened two years ago, 583 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: so he's still recovering it. Shot two nails at once, 584 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: and one went a different direction from whatever he has 585 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: right on us. 586 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, that couldn't do construction. I'd end up with 587 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: a nail in my head every day. 588 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 4: And apparently the company has engaged in a couple of 589 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: recalls in the past. 590 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: Oh you know, if you make something like a nail gun, 591 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: you got to be one hundred percent. You got to 592 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: be perfect every single every single gun, every nail. 593 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: It's gotta work. 594 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: No deviations, that's gonna be really go back to a hammer. 595 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: Uh conways here, I know, Hey, we got a packed show. 596 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: We got to Kleina Astrino's coming on from k Cow. 597 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: She does that thing called what's the buzz? Anybody? 598 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: It's your guest? What you doing? I don't know, just 599 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: trying to get her to quit doing this. Oh that's 600 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: your plan. 601 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: I've been trying to, you know, trying to screw it 602 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: up purposely, and she's like, oh that's funny, that's great, Like, 603 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: oh good, Oh so she's done this before. Yeah we 604 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: did like third time. Oh then you know what it's about. 605 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Well no, no, but they have a different topic every 606 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: day and then they tell me the topic and I 607 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: try to hit it dead on with like everybody else's opinion. 608 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Okay, don't take any chances. No, watch down in the middle. 609 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: And then Leo Gonzalez is coming in. 610 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: He's a TikTok star, has over three million two point 611 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: nine million TikTok follow TikTok star. Yes, gotta get with it, Johnny. 612 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: And then also Dean Sharp is coming on with us. 613 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: The House Whisper. Is he a TikTok star? No, no, no, no, 614 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: I think he went with Governor Newsom the China zo. 615 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 2: Oh No, that was Alex Michaelson. That's tomorrow's guest tomorrow. Sorry, 616 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: I thought it was the House Whisper. Wouldn't that have 617 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: been a better choice to take the House Whisper to China? 618 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: Have look at the you know, the like they have 619 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: they build homes over. You're trying to rig the show 620 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: of all your guests. We're getting there, yeah, right there, yeah, yeah. 621 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: And then and then we have just called them, call 622 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: them up and say, I don't want John anymore. 623 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 4: He just wants a chance to talk about taking cold 624 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: fries back to the counter. 625 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's the show. We tried to 626 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: do that. 627 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: At one point, we said, hey, let's see if we 628 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: can get down to zero people following us on one 629 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: of these social media things. Just keep canceling, canceling, canceling us. 630 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: We got down pretty good, pretty good. People love people 631 00:30:53,320 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: loved the unsubscribing. I love unsubscript you know, Oh I 632 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: did too. That's a big thrill for all the all. 633 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: The email lists you end up on, right Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 634 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: like hitting unsubscribed, unsubscribed, unsubscribed. 635 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: Do you ever get this where you get an email 636 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: and they said, you haven't opened up this company in 637 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: nine months. You want to unsubscribe? Hell yeah, boom they're gone. 638 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: And I've heard people say that's how they know it's 639 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: a good address. 640 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, is that right? 641 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 4: People have told me that they know if you do that, 642 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: that you are a real person. 643 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: You know who I unsubscribe. I ended up on some 644 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: mailing lists Trump for President. Okay, you literally get thirty 645 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: five emails a day? Oh I get Yeah, I get 646 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: I get three, I get three, four four text a 647 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: day because I almost never go on the company email 648 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: account because I just don't want to know. And but 649 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: today I never figured out how to block emails on 650 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: that account. 651 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: But I blocked Trump for President today. I can't take 652 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: the email. 653 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: I get text from Trump three or four a day. Yeah, yeah, 654 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 2: and I don't think they're from him, but I think 655 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: they're like. 656 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: No, it's it's all on automatic. It's just an algorithm. Bump. 657 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 2: I like to think they're from him, but I don't know. 658 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: My wife said they're not. I'm with your wife. 659 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: But but also, you. 660 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: Know, when you know, the the the unsubscribing thing that 661 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: makes me nervous that now they you know, when you 662 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: press that thing, it says I'm not a robot, and 663 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: you know, and then and then it clicks. What they 664 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: do is they look at your search history for the 665 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: last ten days to see if you're a robot or not. 666 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: That's what they're that's what they're looking. 667 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, you give them permission by clicking that in 668 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: a small print underneath. So when you click I'm not 669 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: a robot, they're gonna look at your search for less ten. 670 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 671 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: Now, we're all nervous, you know what, it's crazy, right, 672 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna disconnect. There's no such really had it 673 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: with the whole Internet era. I don't need it anymore. 674 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as privacy anymore. 675 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: None, No, I know, no I'm done, all right, let's 676 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: go twenty four hour caf A. 677 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 4: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show. 678 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: You can always hear us live on caf i Am 679 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 4: six forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 680 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 4: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app