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Speaker 1: Tuesday, January fifteenth on the CW. From the executive producer

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Speaker 1: of The Vampire Diaries and The Originals, comes the incredible

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Speaker 1: story about Making Contact. Get ready for the highly anticipated

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Speaker 1: arrival of the new series Roswell, New Mexico. When Liz

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Speaker 1: Orteka returns to her sleepy, legendary hometown of Roswell, where

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Speaker 1: she's reunited with high school crush Max Evans, small town

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Speaker 1: cop with an extraordinary secret. Drawn together as if by

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Speaker 1: some unforeseen force of attraction, Max reveals to Liz that

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Speaker 1: he's an alien who fell to Earth during the infamous

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Speaker 1: UFO Crash of nineteen forty seven from another world. He

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Speaker 1: and his brother and sister have lived their entire lives

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Speaker 1: in secret, never telling the soul the truth about what

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Speaker 1: they are or the mind blowing powers they each possess.

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Speaker 1: When Max's family finally finds out that he has broken

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Speaker 1: their vow of secrecy, of vents are set in motion

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Speaker 1: that will rock the entire town of Roswell to its core.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss the unbelievable new series Roswell, New Mexico, Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: January fifteenth, only on the CW. Now here's a highlight

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Speaker 1: from coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio, and he's back.

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Speaker 1: William forced in New York Times bestselling author One Second

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Speaker 1: after a PhD in history from Purdue University, specializes in

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Speaker 1: military history and the history of technology. He's the one

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Speaker 1: that brought us the story about the power grid. What

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Speaker 1: could happen if it goes down? Under two scenarios. One

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Speaker 1: would be a solar flare from the sun. And we've

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Speaker 1: been lucky lately, we've dodged some big ones. Now. In

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Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds there was what was called the Carrington event.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of electricity. Then we had

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Speaker 1: the telegraph system, but that was huge and that just

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Speaker 1: burned up the telegraph system. If that would happen today,

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Speaker 1: our power grid would be finished for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And of course, an emp attack, a pulse attack of

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Speaker 1: a detonated nuke in the atmosphere by a nation that

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Speaker 1: wants to take us down. William back on Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast as we will update you on this ongoing campaign

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Speaker 1: to bull the grid. William, good to have you back,

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Speaker 1: my friend, George. It's always a pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I'll have you update us in just a second. And

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Speaker 1: for our new listeners tell them a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about the power grid and stuff. But with all this

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Speaker 1: talk about building border walls along the Mexico US border,

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Speaker 1: why don't we take that five billion dollars and fix

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Speaker 1: the power grid, which you've estimated what only cost half

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Speaker 1: that much George from your lips to God's ears, it's

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Speaker 1: an absurd question. Actually, we're talking about an investment of

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Speaker 1: between twenty to one hundred dollars per citizen to ensure

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Speaker 1: that we have a power grid in the event either

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Speaker 1: of an enemy attack or a flare from the surface

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Speaker 1: of the Sun that's intense enough to peal through the

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Speaker 1: magnetosphere and it the electrical grid. How foolish, How foolish

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Speaker 1: can we be not to put that investment out there.

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Speaker 1: I know it. That should be a top priority. Sometimes,

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Speaker 1: what I think we're getting close, I get all excited

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Speaker 1: and then nothing happens. It's been you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a political circus where we're looking at gridlock, and gosh,

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Speaker 1: you and I have been talking about this for ten

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Speaker 1: years and at least twice, I believe three times now

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Speaker 1: bills had actually had bipartisans support in Congress. In the

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Speaker 1: senators kill it unbelievable. We got to get those names

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Speaker 1: and spread it out on the program. Mccowsky of Alaska

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Speaker 1: is the big one. All right, folks, if you live

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Speaker 1: in Alaska, just pelt his office and tell him you

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Speaker 1: want this thing pass. What's going on with our buddy

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Speaker 1: Peter Pride these days? Yeah, I haven't been in touch

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Speaker 1: he sends out every three or four days. Peter is

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Speaker 1: the lonesome warrior. I'm just awed by the guy. I

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Speaker 1: call him the godfather. But he's doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: publications still and all the way up like the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal putting out the warning but not being listened to. No,

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Speaker 1: But well, you know what, eventually they will listen to us,

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Speaker 1: and you know what it's going to take. Sadly enough,

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Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. We're gonna have some kind of X

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Speaker 1: I just know something like that's going to happen. Isn't

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Speaker 1: what happens here? Okay, excuse me. CME stands for coronal

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Speaker 1: mass ejection storms coming off the surface of the Sun

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Speaker 1: to demonstrate the probability. I have somebody standing in the

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Speaker 1: probability he's going to hit that person, particularly he's blindfolded

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Speaker 1: one in a thousand, one, ten thousand. But suppose we

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Speaker 1: did that for one hundred hundred and fifty years, suddenly

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Speaker 1: right now now, and a lot of people, just so

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Speaker 1: they can understand, a coronal mass ejection is not a

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Speaker 1: all that way and melts the planet. It doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: like that. This is almost like electromagnetic pulse that will

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Speaker 1: shut the grid down. We die because we don't have electricity,

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Speaker 1: no running water, no services. They estimate over a year,

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Speaker 1: three hundred million Americans. William Yes. The congressional reports on

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four, two thousand and eight, and there

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Speaker 1: was also a smaller report that came at recently. Worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario. We're looking at a ninety percent die off,

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Speaker 1: right and people, I mean, George, you and I talked

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Speaker 1: about this in public a dozen times. You first say

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Speaker 1: ninety percent, people say you're crazy. Where does that come from? Well,

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Speaker 1: We haven't really talked about it a lot on the program,

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Speaker 1: you know, will take advantage of some weak individual sadly enough,

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Speaker 1: but that happens. What happens if we're crippled as a nation.

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Speaker 1: Then I want to talk about what happens to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the planet if they get hit. But what

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Speaker 1: So we've been you know, we've got two arms behind

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Speaker 1: going to destroy us? George, that's yeah, that such an

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Speaker 1: underhanded question. Of course, let's go to other players North Korea.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to load up a boat

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Speaker 1: to a couple of weapons of mass destruction, you pull

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Speaker 1: I mean out of the world, both physically. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: you should do now. Electromagnetic pulse that's something similar but

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Speaker 1: it sets up an electromagnetic disturbance called the Compton The

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Speaker 1: Compton effect cascades down through the atmosphere, hits the electrical

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Speaker 1: the military we would call an asymmetrical first strike weapon.

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Speaker 1: What are you more concerned about the CMA from the

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Speaker 1: and I believe it is inevitable that both of them

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