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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: And them and Tie, welcome back to the salad verbal

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Speaker 3: incomparable Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I have had family in town the last few days,

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Speaker 2: My coffee has been hitten just like I want it to.

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Speaker 2: And we've got a news slash discussion show this morning.

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Speaker 2: As we record this that it has me especially juiced.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, Tie, I'm excited and enthusiastic to

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Speaker 2: Here's what Nebraska has right now. They have too much

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Speaker 3: They most certainly were okay. In more Midwestern quarterback strife,

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Speaker 2: Right now at zero to two with Drew Pine, which

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, And I mean he's a smaller dude, And

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Speaker 3: But it's really just a it's a bummer of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we should start taking a look at what CJ.

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Speaker 3: Quinnewers not out for the year. Will miss sometime about

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Speaker 2: in the near future, you could we could see tie

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Speaker 2: with a double drew.

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Speaker 3: By the end of the season, double Drew. Anything else

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Speaker 3: here for you in the news department?

438
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Speaker 2: No, what do you have anything else down in your document?

439
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Speaker 2: I think that's it.

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Speaker 3: Shall we get to our game.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to our game. Explain it all right, ty

442
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Speaker 2: The term bound has multiple meanings, So the name of

443
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Speaker 2: our game today is bound or bound? So are you

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Speaker 2: are you glory bound or are you tied up?

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Speaker 3: A little bit?

446
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Speaker 1: Getting tied up?

447
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Speaker 2: I mean if you're if you're bound, Tye, you were,

448
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Speaker 2: you're tied up. You're quite literally physically tied up, right

449
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: shout out Kanye West in that weird weird music video

450
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Speaker 2: Bound too. So we have a number of topics and

451
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Speaker 2: we're gonna look at different teams and situations. Bound for

452
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: glory or just gonna eventually get tied up and no tie.

453
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Speaker 2: Get your mind out of the gutter. I'm not talking

454
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Speaker 2: about the seminal Gina gersha On Gershashan and Jennifer Tilly

455
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Speaker 2: movie from nineteen ninety six, directed by the Wakowskis, by

456
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Speaker 2: the way, really of Matrix Fame. Yeah, written and directed

457
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Speaker 2: by the Wakowskis. Had no idea, no no clue.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that.

459
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Speaker 2: And I could have pulled a clip. I could have

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Speaker 2: pulled a clip of Jennifer Tilly with her distinctive voice

461
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Speaker 2: saying I'm trying to seduce you, but I didn't because

462
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Speaker 2: I'm a mature general.

463
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to settle for your Indus show.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, those were the days when you had the movie

465
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Speaker 2: trailer guy who would actually like narrate the trailer in

466
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Speaker 2: a world. Yes, so let's start with our first item,

467
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Speaker 2: bound for glory or just simply bound tie.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned JJ McCarthy and New Presume Starter. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: and Michigan Donovan Edwards beat up unclear the severity of

473
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Speaker 2: his injury at the moment we're recording this. But does

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy now make Michigan the Big Ten favorite so

475
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Speaker 2: gonna beat Ohio State again this year in Columbus? Does

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and his presumed heightened ceiling for this offense

477
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Speaker 2: make Michigan at his best the presumptive Because you've been

478
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Speaker 2: on the record, on the record stating Ohio State is

479
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Speaker 2: not just your Big Ten champion, but your national champions.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you've wavered from that. To your credit.

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Speaker 2: Is Michigan under JJ McCarthy presume starter bound to repeat

482
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Speaker 2: as a Big Ten champion?

483
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Speaker 3: No? No, they are not.

484
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Speaker 2: Okay, make the case for me that this changes nothing

485
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Speaker 2: of where you stood before the season.

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Speaker 3: I can't make the case that it changes nothing, because

487
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Speaker 3: I do think it changes something. I think it makes

488
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Speaker 3: the offense more dynamic. It gives them additional ways that

489
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Speaker 3: they can attack, not just Ohio State, but really anybody

490
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Speaker 3: on the schedule. I think this makes Michigan's offense better,

491
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Speaker 3: absolutely better. I still don't think it makes it better

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Speaker 3: than Ohio States. And that's where I'm at with this.

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Speaker 3: So if we were to put a number on it,

494
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Speaker 3: and let's say before the start of the season, I

495
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Speaker 3: had Ohio State with its dynamic offense ten points better

496
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Speaker 3: than Michigan, I think this brings it down about half that.

497
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Speaker 3: I think JJ McCarthy's worth a lot, provided he can

498
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Speaker 3: stay healthy and he's not going to make any dumb mistakes.

499
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Speaker 3: That was the big calling card for Kay McNamara, right.

500
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Speaker 3: He may have been limited physically with the tools that

501
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Speaker 3: he brought to bear, but he didn't make a lot

502
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Speaker 3: of dumb mistakes, no matter to run the offense. You

503
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Speaker 3: could trust them with the football. You knew his limitations totally,

504
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Speaker 3: but he wasn't going to beat you. If JJ McCarthy

505
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Speaker 3: can give them that level of consistency and he's also

506
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Speaker 3: got that dual threat component of his game, yeah that

507
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: makes Michigan a lot better. So let's put it this way. No,

508
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: it doesn't make them the presumptive big ten favorite. I

509
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: don't think it makes them good enough on offense or

510
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Speaker 3: good enough in general to beat Ohio State because you know,

511
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Speaker 3: like you said, I'm on the record, Ohio State in

512
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Speaker 3: my view, is going to win the national championship. But

513
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Speaker 3: I am definitely thinking about that stance a lot more

514
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Speaker 3: than I did three weeks ago, because JJ definitely gives

515
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Speaker 3: them more and I'll be interested to watch him mature

516
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Speaker 3: throughout the course of the season. Here's the thing though

517
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Speaker 3: about Ohio State.

518
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Speaker 2: I think Ohio State is excellent. I think they have

519
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: a terrific ceiling, higher than last year. Perhaps schedule outside

520
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: of Michigan isn't amazing. It's a tough schedule. It's at

521
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Speaker 2: Michigan State and it's before or bye week. They have Iowa,

522
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Speaker 2: which is less daunting at the moment. It's at Penn

523
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Speaker 2: State at Northwestern, which I'm not selling Northwestern as a

524
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Speaker 2: true threat to Ohio State, but I'm just talking about

525
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: the roads late at Maryland, which will probably be improved,

526
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Speaker 2: but doesn't have the defense I don't think to stop

527
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Speaker 2: Ohio State for very long. And then Michigan. I think

528
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Speaker 2: Michigan's schedule is a little bit easier because the Michigan

529
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Speaker 2: State game is where this year it's an ann arbor.

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Speaker 1: Is it not?

531
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Speaker 2: I believe so, Yeah, the Penn State game is ain't

532
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Speaker 2: ann arbor, and so leading up to it, I know

533
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: they have Illinois should be a win. Nebraska almost definitely

534
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: should be a win. Rutgers, your Rutgers Scarlet Knights tie,

535
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Speaker 2: you have a good claim to them on the road.

536
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Speaker 3: On the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan's at ile, which I'm I'm terrified of still

538
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Speaker 2: if I'm a Michigan fan, I wouldn win that game

539
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: six to three. But the JJ McCarthy factor. One of

540
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: the things that I think we're overlooking right now is

541
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbum beat up on Ryan Day last year. He

542
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: turned the tables. They can get turned back. But I

543
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: still think there's a certain amount of comft and even

544
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: with the new coordinators and with what returns on both

545
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Speaker 2: sides of the ball, Ohio State's still.

546
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: New on defense.

547
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: There's still new on defense in that system. We'll see

548
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: how they respond to the games left. They won't be

549
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: by it, it won't be by the time they play late November,

550
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: but fair point, Yeah, there's a certain amount of consistency

551
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: continuity to Michigan that we'll see what Jackson Smith and

552
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: Jigba's injury. He should be back and fine, but there

553
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: are new pieces And if JJ McCarthy is he reminds.

554
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Speaker 1: Me a little bit.

555
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: I think he has a stronger arm than Marcus Mariota,

556
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: the little bit strider, you know, the dual threat, like

557
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: we think JJ McCarthy if what he has shown is

558
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: legit against nobody, to be clear against nobody. But if

559
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: he has that all big ten, all American Heisman caliber ceiling,

560
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: if he's healthy, he has the skill, talent, he has

561
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: the line to do so, and they beat him last

562
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: year with a better quarterback this year or better quarterback potential,

563
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna plant my flag now and say, yes, wow,

564
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plant my flag right now like.

565
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: The true husband of a Michigan alum.

566
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just have a deeper connection to the program.

567
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: Tie and you're an outsider.

568
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: I am. I am now, Look, I'm brutal.

569
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Speaker 2: Two excellent quarterbacks, two excellent quarterbacks. It goes the game

570
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: goes through Columbus. But right now, because of what I

571
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: think Michigan's defensive ceiling is, and I think Ohio State's

572
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: defense will be very good too, I understand that, and

573
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: the continuity involved roster wise, I'm gonna say Michigan, I'm

574
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: gonna plant my flag and say C J. Stroud special,

575
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy probably special. But what I'm my bet here

576
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: is that there is something in the air with Michigan,

577
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: and I'm still down on Jim Harbaugh long term in

578
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: ann Arbor. But with what we've seen thus far from

579
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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy once again against nobody, I'm going to have

580
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: a little faith to say the upgrade from Cade McNamara

581
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: to JJ McCarthy is meaningful for a team that should

582
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Speaker 2: still get it done on defense. And there are still

583
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Speaker 2: questions to me with Ohio State that need to be answered.

584
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Speaker 1: That's all.

585
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Speaker 3: I think that's a fair point of view. And as

586
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: you said, Jim Harbad did beat up on Ohio State

587
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: last year. Yep. Right, We've talked about at time and again,

588
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: the more physical teams on that Ohio State schedule last

589
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: season were the ones that had the most success against them.

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Speaker 2: M H.

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Speaker 3: Whether or not they toughen up, we'll find out, and

592
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: due time, we'll find out in due time how this line,

593
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: how this front looks as they get into some of

594
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: the meat of the schedule here in the Big Ten.

595
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Speaker 3: But certainly I think we would both agree JJ McCarthy

596
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: being the quote unquote true duel threat that he is

597
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: at quarterback from Michigan gives them a different dynamic. That

598
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Speaker 3: is another thing anybody's got to account for whether it's

599
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 3: Ohio State on the road, or Penn State or Michigan

600
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Speaker 3: State or even Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it does change the complexion of this a

603
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: little bit, and it is something that we need to

604
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: re evaluate as we go forward.

605
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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. And this is not based in data.

606
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: This is not based in anything significant. This is d analytics, right,

607
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: This is analytics. Each off season you are seduced intellectually

608
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: by a new coordinator higher. Me each off season you

609
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: are seduced by a new coordinator hire somewhere. And I

610
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: am too haunted by the repeated notion that Kirk Shiraka

611
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: is going to boost Penn State's offense in a new

612
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: and exciting way. And you have been touting the Jim

613
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: Knowles higher all off season long, and I know you're

614
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: all in. I know you and Jim Knowles at the hemp.

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Speaker 1: That scares me.

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Speaker 2: It scares me that you have said the word the

617
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: words Jim and Knowles one hundred and forty seven times

618
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: I have this off season. And so while you say

619
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Speaker 2: no to Michigan being the presumptive Big Ten favorite, I say,

620
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Speaker 2: I'm just planting my flag now with a little bit

621
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: of pixie dust faith, but the best of JJ McCarthy.

622
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm in, I seduced, I say better, but not bound

623
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Speaker 2: to that level of success. So like half bound, I

624
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: don't know if you've got to sound for that. It's

625
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: just it's the continuity of the skill position guys, fer

626
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Speaker 2: Misi look in Ohio State's better off skill position wise.

627
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Speaker 1: I understand all of that, but I don't know.

628
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: There's a certain amount of new pressure on Ryan Day

629
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Speaker 2: at Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, speaking of new pressure, Yeah, USC, oh okay,

631
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: USC bound for PAC twelve, maybe even playoffs, stardom in

632
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: light of their hot start and excitement in and around

633
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: the program, or bound to remain what USC has been

634
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: for the last decade. And I don't say that to

635
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: be mean, but this is what they've been for the

636
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: last decade. A team that gets hyped up and then

637
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: doesn't go anywhere. Yeah, bound or bound, m.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

639
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: The thing that worries me is you can run on USC.

640
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: The thing that worries me is the red zone defense

641
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: and needing turnovers, needing pick sixes to flip fields. And

642
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: it's an incredible thing to be able to accomplish against

643
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 2: Stanford and Rice not something you can count on weekend

644
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: week out. They have an Oregon State team I believe

645
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: In Corvallis two weeks. Oh yeah, Fresno, this friend ue

647
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Speaker 1: me in two weeks.

648
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the Freensdno this week, Oregon State in a

649
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. There is a concern to me with

650
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: USC still. It's the same one that we both had

651
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: in the off season. It's the defense. It's that you

652
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: can push them around and that maybe the best thing

653
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: that any team does in the conference is USC playing offense.

654
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: I still don't fully trust the running game with U.

655
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: With Travis Dyeley the way he is, just you touch him,

656
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: he goes down. He's a good running back. I watched

657
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: him for many years at Oregon. He is not breaking tackles.

658
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: And so if USC needs to win in multiple ways, defense, running, whatever,

659
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: if it's just going to be a shootout to get

660
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: to fifty four, they've got a great chance. I'm still

661
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: worried about them upfront on defense, not that the Pac

662
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: twelve is an incredibly difficult conference right now to win.

663
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: Even with Utah's loss, I think Utah is the clear,

664
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: clear favorite, and Utah is still glory bound, where USC

665
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: is going to be tied down a little bit like

666
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: a hot air balloon, all that heat, but kind of

667
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: easy to keep down with the rope. I'm saying USC

668
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: not bound for presumptive glory in the PAC twelve. But

669
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: if they improve on defense, I can adjust that in

670
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: the coming weeks. But right now I think USC as

671
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: a top ten team is an overshoot.

672
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: TI Travis dyed, by the way, for what it's worth,

673
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 3: I've got the number in front of me, and it's early.

674
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: He's only had nineteen rushing attempts so far. Okay, yards

675
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: after contact one point six is his average. So to

676
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: your point, he goes down, Yeah, he goes down. He

677
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: goes down. Austin Jones. The other transfer comes over from Stanford.

678
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: I believe much healthier number on the rushing side five

679
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: point eight. But your point, I think is a valid one,

680
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: and I also agree. Look, I've been high on Utah

681
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: all off season as well, and I do think that

682
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: the Stanford game, and we'll find out more right, not

683
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: just with Stanford and how we saw them move the

684
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: ball relatively easily against USC, but we'll again see this

685
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: defense against a pretty good offense. In Fresno State this week,

686
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: two weeks Oregon State on the road in Corvallis, Oregon State.

687
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: We know danger that's the weak carrier delm. We know

688
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: that Jonathan Smith is riverboat gambler of sorts, and he

689
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: is not afraid to throw everything at USC. We will

690
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: find out out here in very short order what this

691
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: defense is made of and if they are taking any

692
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: kind of step forward. I am a bit nervous about

693
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: how easily Stanford moved the ball, if only because we

694
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: talked a lot about how Stanford wasn't going to be

695
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: able to move the ball. That was a question that

696
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: we had. Now Tanner McKee found open guys. He didn't

697
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: get much help in the receiver game. Maybe if he did,

698
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: it would have been a little bit of a closer matchup.

699
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: But this is not an offense that you and I

700
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: looked at and said, oh my god, everybody's afraid of Stanford.

701
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: It's like an average offense. If that, over the course

702
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: of the college football season, I think we'll see those

703
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: numbers bear themselves out. So for sure, you go up

704
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: against a really physical team like a Utah, I just

705
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: think it's different. I think it's different I'm saying they

706
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: lose that game, but I'm just not sold on this

707
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: defense at all. The offense is, as you said, maybe

708
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 3: the best thing in all of the Pac twelve bar none.

709
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: They're incredible, Yeah, they're incredible, but against a team that

710
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: can really control the point of attack, against the team

711
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 3: that can dominate the football, against a team that could

712
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: really run it down your throat the way we know

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: Utah can, I don't know how USC matches up in

714
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: that type of contest. So for me, USC's better. USC's

715
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: gonna be way better. There's a ton of steam on

716
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: that program. It's exciting times totally, But Pac twelve champion,

717
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: I still go Utah. I like the way that they

718
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: match up a lot better.

719
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: It's it seems like every year excellent teams have to

720
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: win a very specific kind of clunker, you know, a

721
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: seventeen thirteen game, a fifteen to ten game, and I

722
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: anticipate us he's gonna score a ton of points. But

723
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: if some defensive coordinator in the conference, or even if

724
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: it's Al Golden and Marcus Freeman, who are like, screw it,

725
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: we have discovered and I know that doesn't affect their

726
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: conference championship aspirations. But whatever, if they have to win

727
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: a specific game for a playoff Berth, for a PAC

728
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: twelve championship game, Berth, and they have to win it

729
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: fifteen to ten, that defensive coordinator finds this one wrinkle.

730
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Oh blah blah blah.

731
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: That's what worries me is the ways in which USC

732
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: can win games are not necessarily sustainable to get to

733
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: ten or eleven. But again, it's the PAC twelve and

734
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm willing to hear you out, but it's sort of

735
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: a bummer because it keeps us from appreciating the step

736
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: forward that USC is very clearly taking, or the steps

737
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: forward USC is very clearly taking big time. But at

738
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: the same time, I think they're ground bound a little

739
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: bit more than their ranking would suggest. At the moment,

740
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: I think.

741
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 3: I think we agree, all right, let's move on, let's

742
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: go back east here, let's do it. And this is

743
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: a more zoomed out discussion than just one conference. This

744
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: is a state of affairs type of question. And we're

745
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: talking about the Georgia Bulldogs. Yes, through two weeks, Georgia

746
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: has predicted looked unstoppable. I don't know if anybody could

747
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: have predicted how unstoppable. They would look against Oregon. We

748
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: still don't know a lot about Oregon, but that was

749
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: an impressive showing by any stretch of the imagination. Is

750
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: it now a situation where it is the Georgia Bulldogs

751
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: essentially versus the field for the national championship this season?

752
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Right?

753
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is It's not a question of playoff national championship.

754
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: It's how many other teams appear to be bulletproof at

755
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: the top of the sport, whether it's six eight, six teams,

756
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: eight teams, eleven teams, three teams, whatever, I say, none,

757
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: like you look at Georgia's schedule right now, I don't

758
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: know actually how good george is because I think Oregon

759
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 2: is a pretty flawed team at the moment and will

760
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: be for probably as long as bo Nicks is the quarterback.

761
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Like even against Eastern Washington, they weren't throwing the ball

762
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: downfield against Eastern Washington, which is kind of concerning, And

763
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: so we don't fully know who the receivers are they

764
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: going to step up, could be you know, Adie Mitchell

765
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: and Karis Jackson lad Mcca. They have guys who have

766
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: been there and done that. But short of those two

767
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: treacky games in November where I think they're on the

768
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: road at Kentucky and at Mississippi State. Correct, if that's

769
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: what we're pointing to right now at Kentucky and Assissippi

770
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: State in terms of regular season because we have a

771
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: down Auburn team and then the rest of their schedule

772
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: is down. Florida is down. Florida is less of a threat.

773
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: After this past week, you can see how Georgia could

774
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: very much frustrate Anthony Richardson in his first year as

775
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: a full time starter. I can listen on Ohio State.

776
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: They still worry me a little bit. They still worry

777
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: me a little bit because of the lack of pop

778
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: in big games recently. Sure, so I say yes, I

779
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: say the portal has changed things. I say the amount

780
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: of change at Alabama has changed things. And Texas might

781
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: be very good and to go to Texas and beat

782
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: Texas like they did could turn out to be super,

783
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: super impressive. But right now, the SEC is kind of

784
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: a countdown to Bama Georgia in the SEC championship game already.

785
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: It's like I would say, like, oh, it would be

786
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: great if Georgia got Arkansas or something like that.

787
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: They be et them thirty seven dohing last?

788
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: They killed them? They killed them. Yeah. I mean, here's

789
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: the interesting thing about this. So though I do believe

790
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: that Ohio State can win the national championship, Georgia, with

791
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: the way that they have played, has earned the right

792
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: to be a definitive yes to this question, which is, yeah,

793
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: is it Georgia versus the field? That is how we

794
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: should look at this. For the remainder of the season,

795
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 3: Ohio State could get there, but until proven otherwise, Georgia

796
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: is still the national champion and they are playing still

797
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: at a very very high level. They're playing national championship

798
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: caliber football. They have not skipped a beat since last season.

799
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: If you look at their schedule and you mentioned the

800
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: two tricky road games in November, I think you're wise

801
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: to point both those out. But I've got neutral field

802
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: projections in front of me. Okay, and the hardest game,

803
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: the hardest remaining game on Georgia's schedule, per this is

804
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: second to last week of the year on the road

805
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: at Kentucky and again neutral site, they'd be about a

806
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: two touchdown favorite. So in Kentucky that translates to what

807
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: eleven twelve points, still a road favorite. Even that Mississippi

808
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: State game, which I don't think Mississippi State has any

809
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: chance against Georgia. I think they're way too one dimensional.

810
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: They've got a good defense, and you know, we'll talk

811
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: much more about Mississippi State on the road at LSU

812
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: on the show that we do tomorrow, But even in

813
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: that game, same deal, like a fifteen point favorite neutral site.

814
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: This is a really good Georgia team. All the other

815
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: games on this schedule, I see a couple forty seven

816
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: point projections here, a twenty eight point projection, seventeen over Tennessee,

817
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: twenty three over Florida. We're talking about a team that, presumably,

818
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: barring injury, barring you know, any kind of castrophee, is

819
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 3: going to be a heavy favorite over just about every

820
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: other team aud its regular season schedule, even over Alabama.

821
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: At this point, you know, I can pull up some

822
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: other numbers and figure out what that would look like.

823
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: They may not be favored right now, but I think

824
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: with what we saw at Alabama, there's a lot more

825
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: learning to do on that front, is there not. I Mean,

826
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: we joke around about Baylor playing a pickle ball offense

827
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: and everything being relatively close to the line of scrimmage.

828
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: Alabama didn't prove they can stretch the field, true, right,

829
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: so maybe there's a pickleball quality there that.

830
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: MC stretched it again.

831
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: But in the passing game, right in the pass the

832
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: passing game, everything was pretty contained. I don't know if

833
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: that continues. I don't believe it will. But the point

834
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: stands here that with Georgia's remaining schedule and just with

835
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: the body of work we've seen from other teams around

836
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: college football, they seem to be the clear number one

837
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: at this point, and it is everybody else trying to

838
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: contend to, you know, to rise in that field category.

839
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: So these are the teams since two thousand and You

840
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: can go back further and it doesn't really make you know,

841
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 3: Nebraska repeated in ninety four, ninety five, Miami got back

842
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: to the national championship and lost to Ohio State if

843
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: you remember in two thousand and two, Yes, right, two

844
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: thousand and two. So it's really hard to repeat. Bama

845
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: did it eleven and twelve. But there is something that,

846
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: especially with the added game, and George is built for

847
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: added games just in terms of their depth. Betting against

848
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: a repeat champion generally pays off. It usually works pretty well,

849
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

850
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it generally pays off. And Alabama got to that

851
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: game in twenty twelve as a good team but not

852
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: great team, but they had a Notre Dame team that

853
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: was beatable. And there's a couple of teams that twenty

854
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: twelve is. I mean, my team included a nightmare to

855
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: think about because that was the best. That's probably the

856
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: best Oregon team ever. Betting against a repeat national champ

857
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: is a good bet.

858
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: And so.

859
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: Things have a line pretty well for Georgia at the moment.

860
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: But all it takes is losing the SEC Championship game

861
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: and having the rest of the sport turnout in some

862
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: sort of weird way and say, do we want a

863
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: one loss Utah team that has blasted everybody since losing

864
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: to Florida, or are we just going to let Georgia

865
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: in even losing the SEC championship game. I suspect it's

866
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: going to be the latter, that Georgia will still get in.

867
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see what happens in the rest

868
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: of the sport. Right now, to me, I have fewer

869
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: questions about Georgia than I do anybody else. I would agree,

870
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: and a lot of that has to do with their

871
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: schedule and how it shapes up.

872
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: It just does.

873
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: But there's that rat poison thing. There is that rat

874
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: poison thing where no team is bulletproof, no team can

875
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: say with certainty, there's just nobody going to challenge US.

876
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: Georgia could beat everybody by forty five and just randomly

877
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: lose to Florida, random lose Mississippi State or Kentucky. That

878
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: just stetsan Benneck gets hurt the week before and they

879
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: can't figure out quarterback, which he does have somewhat of

880
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: a history of doing, not being able to figure out

881
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: who the guy is and how to manage that quarterback

882
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: room and just sort of stumbled into stats and Bennett.

883
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a certainty, but right now, Ohio

884
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: State's the closest to me. Ohio State's the closest. Alabama.

885
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: You can't discount at all because it's early on in

886
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: the season and there's a lot of time for them

887
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 2: to get better. In an SEC West that isn't doing

888
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: a lot for me. The SEC is arguably the most

889
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: boring conference in America right now, because we're already trying

890
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: to sell ahead to George Alabama.

891
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: We are, but I.

892
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: Sort of disagree to this extent. Okay, Bama looking vulnerable

893
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: against Texas in the manner that they did was really

894
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: telling to me. If you had told me that Bama

895
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: got into a shootout with Texas, that would have been

896
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: way more believable than Bama scored twenty points against Texas.

897
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: This is a Texas team that needed to hustle to

898
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: get to twenty. Yeah. Yeah, this is a Texas team.

899
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: Dan. Surely we cannot forget the fact that over the

900
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: last five years been dunking on the Longhorns because they

901
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: can't tackle. We talked about it in our preview, at

902
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: least I did. If you can't tackle Alabama, you have

903
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: no shot of winning that game. So suddenly this defense

904
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: found itself or played inspired football. I don't know what

905
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: got into them, but perhaps that signals some real growth

906
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: on their part. Or perhaps it also signals something that

907
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: we should look a little bit deeper with with respect

908
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 3: to Alabama. Maybe the big play potential is not fully

909
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: developed yet. Maybe this team on offense is a little

910
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: bit more vulnerable than we expect it. I remember when

911
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: we talked about Alabama in our Spring Snapshots episode, and

912
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: one of the beat Riders. I forget who forgive me

913
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 3: mentioned the fact that Bryce Young got sacked a ton

914
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: in that game, and there were real questions about who's

915
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: Bryce Young throwing to. You know, what is the support

916
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: system around Bryce Young outside of Jamior Gibbs am I

917
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: saying that it's danger zone time for Alabama. No, Alabama's

918
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: gonna be Alabama. They'll be fine, But I think it's

919
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: a real question, ask question, ask like, who are his

920
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: targets out wide? We know their names, but who is

921
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: going to step up and be the dude that can

922
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: stretch the field and give them that pop that they

923
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: seemingly need that we didn't see against Texas. I think

924
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: the SEC is probably less boring now than I expected

925
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: at the start of the season because a vulnerable Alabama,

926
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: a vulnerable Texas, A and M which is an altogether

927
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: different topic that we'll talk about tomorrow. There's more vulnerability

928
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: in the West than I had even thought possible, and

929
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: we know that through two weeks of the season. So

930
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: it might be Georgia just nuking everybody on the eastern

931
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: side of the conference, but the West, the West could

932
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: be really really intriguing.

933
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: So okay, saying Alabama is not the Alabama of your right.

934
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: I mean, there's still an eleven win team, don't get

935
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: me wrong, but a vulnerable, a more vulnerable Alabama at

936
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: least makes week to week a little bit more interesting.

937
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: Well, didn't we We had that kind of conversation last

938
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: year after the Florida game, right that they snuck out

939
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: of Gainesville with the win, and then they demolished and.

940
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: There is a zombie Alabama factor here. I don't know.

941
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: My soundboard's dead at the moment, but.

942
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: It's not the only year in which you could have

943
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: credibly said, I don't know, Alabama looks more vulnerable than usual,

944
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: and then they just It's one of those things too,

945
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: by the way, that looking vulnerable, vulnerable early on and

946
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: having the advantage of saying, Okay, this is what we

947
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: know we need to work on and get creative with

948
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: and find answers for now rather than week nine is

949
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: a big deal advantage. When you're as deep and you

950
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: have four hundred and forty two analysts to pour over

951
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: film and practice footage and whatever, that there is an

952
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: argument to be made that we should just say I

953
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: think they're going to figure it out. It will think

954
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: anybody has repeatedly figured it out and made everybody forget

955
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: that one week or those two weeks where they looked

956
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: mortal is probably e, sayn in Alabama with a Heisman

957
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: winning quarterback.

958
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: It's a fair point. So on the topic here of

959
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: is it Georgia versus the field, we agree that that

960
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: is that is yes, right.

961
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: Yes, as of this moment, Yes, you can lump Alabama

962
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: in with the powers across the rest of the sport

963
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: that look excellent but have reasonable questions.

964
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: Correct.

965
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: I think that like you look at the ACC look

966
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: at the Big ten, you look at the Big twelve,

967
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: you look at the PAC twelve, you look at the

968
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: Sun Belt. Obviously I'm just lumping in power conferences right

969
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: now that you look at the powers across they all

970
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: look very very good, but have questions, whereas Georgia less so.

971
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: So yes, right now, I say, at the top of

972
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: the sport, you get past number three, number four, like, yeah,

973
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: Clemson might play defense better than anybody does anything, but

974
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: it's only half.

975
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Of the equation.

976
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: Only half the equation. All right, We've got one more

977
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: question here before we came all the day. What this

978
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: is like a multi pronged question, right, I'm ready for it.

979
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: We've got a question here about out Texas and Oklahoma

980
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: with specific regard to the pending move to the SEC.

981
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, after two weeks and basically no sample size,

982
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: let's update our firmware on how we feel about the

983
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: whatever happens.

984
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: With the move to the SEC, which of these two

985
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 3: teams is bound for greater immediate success, immediate success upon

986
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: joining the SEC, whenever the hell that happens, Oklahoma.

987
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: Explain, I am more confident in Brent Venable's consistently figuring

988
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: out defense than I am Steve Sarkisian. Yeah, and Oklahoma

989
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: has the reputation, an earned reputation, by the way, really

990
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: struggling on that side of the ball, I think they'll

991
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: be able to do a lot more on defense and

992
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: the recruitment and commitment of the Jack Arnold, Jackson Arnold

993
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma, I think it's going to take a minute

994
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: to fully prove that. You know, under Jeff Lebby and

995
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: Brent Venables that the offense can be nearly as potent

996
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: as they were at their best with Lincoln Riley. But

997
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: in the SEC, I still believe, and I believe this anywhere,

998
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: that if you are going to be a consistent power.

999
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: It's going to start on defense, and I think Oklahoma

1000
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: is going to be closer to inspiring that for me.

1001
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: But man, Texas has an opportunity. But at the same time,

1002
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: there's too much off the field right now for Texas

1003
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: in the way that that program is structured, in the

1004
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: number of voices in important Texas rooms that have consistently

1005
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: made Texas a more difficult place to win than it

1006
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: should be. And now with the added pressure of the

1007
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: SEC spotlight, I think Texas just has the history of

1008
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: getting in its own way more and Oklahoma is better

1009
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: built to function as a well oiled machine that everybody

1010
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: wins at Oklahoma and basically nobody wins at Texas in

1011
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 2: the model like mac Brown had a stretch and still

1012
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: it was what two big twelve titles. So I just

1013
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: think you have to tip in the direction. You have

1014
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: to point in the direction of the place that has

1015
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: figured out how to cultivate a winning program with multiple guys,

1016
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: And to me, that's existing in Norman in a more

1017
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: profound way than it does in Austin.

1018
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 3: So I think generally your logic is in a good

1019
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: place here. Okay, I think it's in a good place

1020
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 3: and you know, one of the things we talked about

1021
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: a lot in the preseason was Brent Venables for all

1022
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: of the reputation that precedes him as a really good

1023
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: coach and obviously an Oklahoma guy, somebody who's been there before,

1024
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: and his level of comfort in and around that program,

1025
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: how that's a good thing. We still have not seen

1026
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: him coach in big games at a really high level.

1027
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: From the head coaching spot. I'm not going to sit

1028
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: here and act as if Nebraska a traditional rival. By

1029
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: the way, I'm not going to act like the game

1030
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: in Week three as any kind of quote unquote big game.

1031
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: But it is real team. Yeah, it's a real team.

1032
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: And for what it's worth, the people who bet for

1033
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: a living are betting pretty heavily on Nebraska. Does not

1034
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: mean they will win.

1035
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: But what's the number.

1036
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: The number was thirteen and a half and now it's

1037
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: down to about eleven and it seems like it might

1038
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 3: come down a little bit more again double digit favorite. Yeah,

1039
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: but I think there is some real skepticism around brand Venables.

1040
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: What can you do on offense?

1041
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: They started off to a they got off to a

1042
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: really bumpy stars start. Yeah, last week last week against Kent.

1043
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: I think Oklahoma will be fine, And if you look

1044
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: at the recruiting rankings recruits, then Okahoma was going to

1045
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: be fine too, because they're a top five class right

1046
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: now a time of recording in twenty twenty three. Texas

1047
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: is also the top five there at number two.

1048
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: The two Texas.

1049
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: The Calvin Banks thing a left tackle to have a

1050
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: locked in All American caliber left tackle as a true freshman,

1051
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: damn Texas, good job.

1052
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: It's a good spot to be in. I think that

1053
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 3: the recruiting ceiling is higher at Texas for sure, but

1054
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: it's always been. But it's always been and that has

1055
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: that not been the issue for the Longhorns over all

1056
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: these years. It's been a matter of developing the talent.

1057
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: The talent's always there, it's in their backyard. It's turning

1058
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 3: it into wins that has really given all these coaches

1059
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: so many issues. So I am encouraged to see that

1060
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: the recruiting has recovered under Steve Sarkisian. And if what

1061
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 3: we saw last week against Alabama is any indication perhaps

1062
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 3: the defense is on the road to recovery as well,

1063
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 3: that would definitely bode well for them as they moved

1064
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: into the SEC, sure, but the answer right now again

1065
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: keyword short term success in the SEC. Short term, I

1066
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: think you've got to answer Brent Venables in Oklahoma. Even

1067
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: though I am not fully sold on him yet, I

1068
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: am sold on his ability to coach a defense, and

1069
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, I think we'll see it before the end

1070
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: of the year. We'll definitely see it in some of

1071
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: the bigger games that they play in their upcoming Big

1072
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: Twelve schedule. I think his ability to coach defense makes

1073
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: Oklahoma the only answer for this question, even though longer term,

1074
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: longer term, if Texas gets its ducks in a row,

1075
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: can find the right guy that you know, jives with

1076
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: the alumni and the donors and whatnot, longer term, I

1077
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: think Texas is higher upside, but shorter term because of

1078
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: the propensity to coach defense and because everything just feels

1079
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: really stable in Norman, the only answer is Oklahoma.

1080
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1081
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: I just the alignment to me is such a big deal.

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: It is that there are too many places that we

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00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: see throughout the sport where why.

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Speaker 1: Aren't they winning more?

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Speaker 2: Why aren't they winning more conference championships? Why don't they

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00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: have why don't they win more ten games season? Why

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00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: do they put together more ten win seasons. Why aren't

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00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: they doing this? This is this is Miami, this is

1089
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: usc this is Nebraska, this is Tennessee. And then the

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: teams that do win it with multiple coaches, there's something different.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a.

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Speaker 2: Certain amount of pressure, there's a certain amount of maturity.

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say Oklahoma, because no program is mature,

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00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: no fan base is mature, no booster group is mature.

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00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: But it is that alignment, it is the organization, It

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00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: is something. There is something about Oklahoma that Texas has

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00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: not figured out a way to tap into that kind

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Speaker 2: of year over year alignment.

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Speaker 1: And I don't see it changing. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I just there's sometimes it's there's a reason places are

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00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: what they are, and I think Texas can have incredible years.

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Speaker 2: But you know, in the way that we talk about

1103
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: what does your fifth best pass look like, what does

1104
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 2: your seventh best run look like, what does your fourth

1105
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: best game look like? What does your fourth best season

1106
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: look like? I'm just gonna go with with OU for that.

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00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: I just there's just too much evidence, even with a

1108
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: new coach and knew everything, yep, that the alignment behind

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: the scenes is just better.

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Speaker 3: I would agree. I want to send a big shout

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1113
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Speaker 3: Texas is bound to its boosters, that's their biggest problem,

1114
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Speaker 3: which I think many of us would agree on that front.

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Speaker 3: Big thank you to Jen, to Andrew, to Shay who

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Speaker 2: I looked up boned and I just wanted to tell

1166
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Speaker 2: you this the first week of its release. I'm always

1167
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: curious about these things. The first week of Bounds release,

1168
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Speaker 2: directed written by the Wakowskis. These are the movies that

1169
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Speaker 2: we're also out in theaters making money. Okay, here's some

1170
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Speaker 2: extra nuggets. You ready, I'm ready. The First Wives Club,

1171
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Speaker 2: The Glimmerman, shout out Stevens. All that thing you do,

1172
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 2: D three, The Mighty Ducks. Two Days in the Valley,

1173
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: Shout out Charlie Starren. Right, that's two days in the Valley,

1174
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: Independence Day, Big Night with Stanley Tucci, First Kid Crash,

1175
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: A Time to Kill with First Kid, First Kid Crash,

1176
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Speaker 2: A Time to Kill That is McConaughey, right, mcnaughey, y,

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Speaker 2: that's our dear person, Early McConaughey, the nutty Professor, Tim

1178
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Speaker 2: cup Jack. If you remember the Robin Williams point, which

1179
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Speaker 2: nobody's ever described as a Robin whatever courage under Fire,

1180
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Speaker 2: Train Spotting, Kazam.

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Speaker 3: Worst movie ever made, Kazam Twister, The Rock, Mission Impossible,

1182
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Speaker 3: The Island of Doctor Moreau, Mission Impossible, One Kingpin, Eraser Strip, Tease,

1183
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Speaker 3: and super Cop all at the same time in the

1184
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: theaters on sub level in nineteen ninety six. Wow, all

1185
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Speaker 3: of these movies available on the big screen. Holy hell,

1186
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: and we decide of all of those to highlight Boned

1187
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: because that's who we are.

1188
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: That's who we are. Wow.

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Speaker 3: All right, well on that uplifting make us feel old.

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Speaker 3: Note hm, this has been another rousing rendition of the

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Speaker 3: solid verbal. Thank you for tuning in, supporting being part

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Speaker 3: of our madness. We will be back tomorrow. We will

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Speaker 3: preview week three in the meantime. For that guy over there,

1194
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Speaker 3: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildea Brandt,

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01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: thank you so much for downloading, listening.

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Speaker 1: Just being a good college football sport.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you all tomorrow, stay solved, Peace,