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Speaker 1: fans would be better. It's fans are important in an

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Speaker 1: indoor basketball game, but there is sort of this intimate

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Speaker 1: field where the players are going crazy, but you know

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Speaker 1: there's no one there, and it's kind of I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there's something cool about it. That said my son, we

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Speaker 1: watched a lot. Every time they focus on the fans,

433
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Speaker 1: he caused them. It's like, oh no, those creepy fans.

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Speaker 1: So they're losing the five year old boy demo, at

435
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Speaker 1: least in my house a little a little creepy. I

436
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Speaker 1: think no fans is crushing. I think it's kind of heartbreaking.

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Speaker 1: There are small positives when I'm watching Yankee games, like

438
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Speaker 1: the the sound of Aaron Judges bat when it makes

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Speaker 1: contact with the ball the way it echoes through the stadium,

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00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: or when an umpire is getting just absolutely destroyed by

441
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: a manager over a strike zone. You can hear that

442
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Speaker 1: stuff now, but the absence of a crowd is really

443
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: to me, like it cuts deep because it's part of

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Speaker 1: the whole experience to me as a fan, is that

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Speaker 1: crowd at the game. And and I just hope this

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00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: is a one and done deal in two thousand twenty, right,

447
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: especially these stadiums, and like you're used to like eight

448
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: people the in NFL game without without fans, is it's

449
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna be weird. We're gonna hear the football games because

450
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being empty stands across

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Speaker 1: the country, even though I know the states, some of

452
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Speaker 1: the states are hoping to use fans. I think it's

453
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Speaker 1: gonna be very odd, especially with football, and you're gonna

454
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Speaker 1: hear just that clatter of the pads and then a

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Speaker 1: lot of hooting and hollering on the sidelines and otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Is I feel like it's just gonna be strange, very strange.

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00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: That's this year, all right, That's what's happening in the news.

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Speaker 1: Before we go on, gentlemen, I just want to talk

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Speaker 1: about voting. Only six of eligible Americans voted in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen on the field or at the poll.

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Speaker 1: SI is not good enough. NFL Votes as a league

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Speaker 1: wide initiative to support and encourage voter education, registration, and

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Speaker 1: activation efforts of players, clubs, and fans from now up

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Speaker 1: until election day. Inspired by ongoing conversations with players, NFL

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Speaker 1: Votes will leverage the NFL platform to empower and improve

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Speaker 1: our communities through exercising the right to vote. Join the

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Speaker 1: make your voice heard this November. Visit NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: your mail in ballot in eighteen different languages here in

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Speaker 1: l A County. What it's amazing. That's a positive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And many people upset about the direction of the country. Well,

473
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Speaker 1: you don't get to complain if you don't vote, So

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Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. That. See, that was just

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Speaker 1: editorializing that. Now, that was that was a fresh um.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're like fifteen, you can complain if you're politically

477
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: active and you're not allowed to vote, you can you

478
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: can still complain if you politically active in your fifteen go,

479
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: you know, try to get a girlfriend. You don't, go

480
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: play with friends, have some fun, don't worry about there's

481
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: so much time in your life to worry about geopolitics

482
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: in the state of the nation. When you're fifteen, be

483
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: a kid. That's that's another right. If anything right out

484
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: And when you're eighteen, I mean it might be you

485
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: might just you know, get to that point. Um, enjoy

486
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: your youth. Greg was on the Big Club, so I

487
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Speaker 1: imagine as a teenager, Greg all the way plugged in. Um,

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Speaker 1: I was more into it. I was more into it

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Speaker 1: that I was warranted. Some people don't have the luxury

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Speaker 1: to ignore it until they're eighteen. You know, they gotta

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Speaker 1: they gotta get involved. With a very woke comment there, Dad,

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00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: that's what a great comment from Greg. Hey, children change history. Alright, um,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's talk some hard knocks. I'm so happy

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: that Greg brought us down there. We got a little

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00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: too flipped. Thank you. Greg. Oh yeah, you know it.

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Speaker 1: You know what that is. And if you don't, well

497
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna have premium cable. That's a problem too. Greg.

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00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I know it's disappointed that so many of our listeners

499
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: might not know Hard Knocks because it's such a great show,

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00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: all right, So Hard Knocks. Hard Knocks is coming back

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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: on Tuesday on HBO and it is titled Hard Knocks

502
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and it will cover for the first time

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Speaker 1: ever two teams, the Rams and the Chargers. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I have a primer preview type piece going up on

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00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: the dot com on Monday, and I'll set it up

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00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: this way in terms of a conversation. So, and I

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00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: know this is something you've said many times before, Mark that,

508
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Speaker 1: and I think West as well, although I think West

509
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: just isn't much of a Hard Knocks guy period. But

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Speaker 1: one thing that you kind of can get a little

511
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: down on with Hard Knocks sometimes is if you've watched

512
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: so many of these seasons, and this is that the

513
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: show can sometimes feel predictable after a while. And the

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00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: world decided that Hard Knocks would have no chance to

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00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: be predictable this year. And the way these training camps

516
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: are set up, the fact that there's no preseason, it

517
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: completely changes and up ends what Hard knoxes. And I

518
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: had a conversation two days ago with Ken Rogers. He's

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Speaker 1: a vice president with the NFL and he has run

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Speaker 1: the show at Hard Knocks for years now, and he said, yes,

521
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: like it was kind of maddening to try to scramble

522
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Speaker 1: to get this show going in but also in his words,

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Speaker 1: creatively inspiring. And I really like this quote that he

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Speaker 1: had that I'm that I have in the piece and

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Speaker 1: I'll read it to you guys here. Uh. And it's

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Speaker 1: in relation to the premier, but the show in general

527
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: this year, this first episode to us is starting to

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Speaker 1: become a look into an American workplace, going back to

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Speaker 1: productivity in the midst of the biggest story in the

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Speaker 1: last one hundred years in American culture. It just so

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Speaker 1: happens to be the industry is football. But anyone who

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Speaker 1: watches this is going to recognize what people are going through.

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Speaker 1: And he and Ken told me that don't back to

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Speaker 1: see a lot of football. Obviously in this premiere, it's

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Speaker 1: more about what's gonna happen, the strangest things. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: see first overall picks and first round picks meet their

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Speaker 1: head coach for the first time, put on their uniform

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Speaker 1: for the first time. This has been everything has been

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00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: so mangled by Corona that all this is happening in

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Speaker 1: a very different way. So if you're looking for a

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Speaker 1: different type of Hard Knocks, this is the year. I.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've come around on this because initially, before

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Speaker 1: everything happened, I was a little bit down on the

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Speaker 1: idea that we were revisiting the rams um just because

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Speaker 1: something that really got that. I before the RAMS episode

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Speaker 1: even happened that season, I already in my head pictured

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00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: these like very sort of cliche l a um backdrop,

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00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, establishing shots before you go into more predictable stuff.

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Speaker 1: Forget all that. I think this is actually we are

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Speaker 1: kind of lucky to have two teams because we've been hearing,

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Speaker 1: you know, covering football for weeks. Teams are doing to

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Speaker 1: deal with Corona and it. You know that the team

553
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: facilities look different than they ever have and ever will

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Speaker 1: again that it's completely alien to everyone involved, and it's

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Speaker 1: cool to see one team handle that and we learn

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Speaker 1: a lot more than we normally would from a Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks in general, but to see how two teams do

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Speaker 1: and how they do it differently, um right there in

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Speaker 1: the same city. I I go into this um pretty

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00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: excited to see it, because it is impossible to hit

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Speaker 1: those normal beats. You're not gonna get bored by the

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Speaker 1: normal beats. There are no normal beats right I. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a look into a world we're not getting

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Speaker 1: into anymore as a media. Makes me wonder if if

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Speaker 1: they will you know what training camps are going to

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Speaker 1: be like when this is all over, because it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me if media has cut back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But you know, one of the reasons the news is

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Speaker 1: weird this week, like the road to World news. I mean, nothing,

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Speaker 1: nothing's been going on because there's no reporters in the building.

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Speaker 1: You know, things are happening behind the scenes. I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling that our news worthy in terms of ease

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Speaker 1: or different things in terms of making plans for the

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Speaker 1: season and players. For the most part, right now, we're

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Speaker 1: just working out, but we don't really know about that

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Speaker 1: because right now the media access is just you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of zooms a week. No one's in the building.

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Speaker 1: No one really has any clue of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And this should be granted, a sanitized version of it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, a team approved version of it on

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Speaker 1: some level. But I still think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: interesting based on all the hard knocks has gotten in

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Speaker 1: the past. These teams have to be loving the The

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00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: access has been going this way um slowly, year by year,

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00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: but the limited access now it's like they probably never

586
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: wanna going from daily daily. I was thinking about that

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Speaker 1: that he went from daily press conferences. Not to mention

588
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: he got to skip about ten between April and now

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00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: he's gone from daily morning press conferences two once a week,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's on zoom. He doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: to be in the same you know room as uh

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Speaker 1: low lifes like like Tom Current, you know, ouch Current

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00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: takes a shot kidding an amazing an amazing reporter and

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00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: an arrow to the breast. Uh Ken also gave me

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Speaker 1: a little bit of an insight into what the vibe

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00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: is there. So these guys and they're all already locked

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Speaker 1: into the routine where they show up, they get tested,

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Speaker 1: uh they go through that process and there you know,

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00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: as the weeks go on, it will become more and

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Speaker 1: more like football. But that wasn't what the first week

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Speaker 1: and their coverage was. And he also said that the

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Speaker 1: building is not used in the way it has in

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Speaker 1: past years, so a lot of things are outside even

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Speaker 1: I believe, I believe he said with the Rams team

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00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: meetings are under a big overhang outside and they're using

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Speaker 1: zoom a lot more. So you'll see Hard Knocks using

607
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: zoom calls themselves. You'll see they have to use a

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00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: longer lens to try to capture things because everything is

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Speaker 1: more at a distance. But I thought that maybe they'd

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Speaker 1: be working with skeleton crew as well NFL films, but

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00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: that's not the case. They're at capacity compared to past years,

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Speaker 1: and that still means thirty personnel at each site logging,

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Speaker 1: and then once they collect what they have, it is

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Speaker 1: then the editor's job to go through four hours of

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Speaker 1: footage for one episode. So it's really cool conversation and

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Speaker 1: you could read about it more on Monday when my

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Speaker 1: piece goes live. But you know, I just I think,

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that I when I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: all right, what else will be different now that the

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Speaker 1: structure has been upended. One thing that I think they'll lose,

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Speaker 1: which they probably will struggle to get back, is I

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Speaker 1: always thought the heartbeat of the show is studying some

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Speaker 1: of the long shots, some of the guys that are

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Speaker 1: bottom of the roster, undrafted or seventh round underdogs, and

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Speaker 1: that has always been where Hard Knocks is really thrived

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Speaker 1: telling those human stories. I think it's like the only

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Speaker 1: reason my wife watches Hard Knockses. She loves that human

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Speaker 1: element of it. I don't know how they're even gonna

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Speaker 1: find those guys when part of like the narrative process

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Speaker 1: and the storytelling process of Hard Knoxes, you meet these

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Speaker 1: guys early in camp. You get to know them their

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Speaker 1: families and then their chance to shine as the preseason

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00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: which doesn't exist, and the rosters were cut down from eight,

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: so it's it's it makes it takes it from a

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00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: long shot to almost no shot to make the team.

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: I wonder if we just lose that element and you

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: can still fashion a story around it. You're right, you're

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00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: not gonna get the like assistant coaches pumping their fist

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00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: after like excusees me Week three, like huge like wide

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00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: receiver eight yard touchdown that somehow he makes the team

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Speaker 1: on But like their story is I think is gripping

642
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: as ever, because you've got like legitimately good athletes that

643
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: have no chance um that are on the outside, and like,

644
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: can one of them penetrate that like force Field and

645
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: still get on the team. That would be cool. It's

646
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: just a while till there is competition, that's the trick.

647
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean they you know, they're gonna have their first

648
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: show on Tuesday. I guess practices will start. Lighter practices

649
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: they're starting I think next week on some level, and

650
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: then the padded practice August seventeen. So there's that, there's

651
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: a pretty long build up towards there's any competition. But

652
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: in the meantime, you just gotta lean on the personality

653
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: of Jared Goff, you know, plug in what is the

654
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: personality of Justin Herbert? Like I do think like there's

655
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: a couple of players here where it's like I have

656
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: no idea what Justin Herbert who he is at this

657
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: point we've been given no access, and it's like I'd

658
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: like to I want to see because it happened three

659
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: years ago with your Brown's marker, two years ago, Anthony

660
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: Lynn and the coaches breathlessly talking up Tyrod Taylor only

661
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: to Bencham for the first round pick in week three.

662
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's happening, will happen to think has got

663
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: a longer, a longer chance this time. We always do,

664
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: we always do. He'll yeah, he'll be He'll be spoken

665
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: of and hushed tones by the coaching staff on this

666
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: show though, as one of the great quarterbacks we've ever seen.

667
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is with this, all right,

668
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: So check it out. And of course I write the

669
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: recaps Tuesday nights on NFL dot Com. I've been doing

670
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: it since two thousand twelve, which is insane. So check

671
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: that out as well. Our knocks love it. That was good.

672
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: Oh and don't forget one other thing. Schreg Bomb Peter

673
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: Schregor a buddy Good Morning Football. He does a hard

674
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: Knocks podcast and he has good access himself. You heard

675
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: that at the top of the show, Um, the trailer

676
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: for that, So I would say go check that out.

677
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: That would be what I would do. But check it

678
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: out because Shreig Bomb is great as he is on

679
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: every Timeay he's on the show. All right. So before

680
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: we go, Mark, you promised us a top ten list

681
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: of why you love Estonia, and before you do that,

682
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: I just want to touch on something um from Wednesday's show,

683
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: because I thought that your aggression about my Canada top

684
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: ten list and your aggression towards Greg was a little

685
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: unfair and it was aggression that I don't think should

686
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: go unchecked. So I just want to tell you that

687
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I am going to enjoy your Estonia list. But I

688
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: also was heard a little bit by your behavior at

689
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: the end of the show, because when Greg rightfully pointed

690
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: out that the reason you were so mad was because

691
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you would claim the Blue Jays, the Toronto baseball team,

692
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: as your own, that did get me thinking that, you know,

693
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: you've been killing baseball for many years and then you

694
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: become a baseball fan. I had no problem that. I

695
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: was happy for you, and then when I mentioned Canada,

696
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's it's an attack moment. I mean,

697
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: number one message received. And you know, like we've been

698
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: doing these for hundreds of pond hundreds of hours of

699
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: these shows, and there are moments when I'll sign off

700
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: and think, huh, I maybe could have handled that a

701
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: bit better, and I'll think about it for like the

702
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: next eighteen to nineteen hours, And that might have been

703
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: one of those cases. I adore everyone. There was some

704
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: character attacks. There was some character attacks during that. Well,

705
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, when you get into it on the show,

706
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta bring the heat right. So it's

707
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: like I did that and I maybe brought too much

708
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: to an issue that didn't require it. Well, Dan is

709
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: like very forgiving and open hearted. You know I'm a

710
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: smaller person. Well, I lost greg friend emotionally and and

711
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: you know as part of that, you have your top

712
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: ten you know list about Estonia. I guess coming up. Well,

713
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: I've got my top ten, uh favorite things about lat Via.

714
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: You know, Estonia's big time rival. I'm a big fan

715
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: of lot. All right, well, I like this. There's some

716
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: you know, let's see. I hope that's true. I don't

717
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: know if it is. Let's start with mark, and I

718
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: will give you the floor mark because I said my piece,

719
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm that piece of it. I liked your response, so

720
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: we're cool. Now. I will be supportive of your top ten. Okay,

721
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm a wildly imperfect person, so take my apology to

722
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: be genuine. All right, here we go. Ten cool things

723
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: about Estonia. Let's go. Number ten. Estonia owns the fifteen

724
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: quickest internet speed in the world, faster than the United States,

725
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: by the way to look at me United States. Number nine.

726
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: The capital city of Taleen features a puppet theater, which

727
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: recently staged their own version of Roman Polanski's Chinatown True Story.

728
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: Number eight. Astonia has a bar dedicated to depeche Mode.

729
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: It's also the birthplace them Very Good Band. It's also

730
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: the birthplace of West fetish Margus Hunt Little NFL Connection

731
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: for you. Number seven. Estonia's young mothers are rich with nutrients.

732
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Number six, home to the Werner Sisters, is Estonia, who

733
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: became famous for crossing into Rush on weekends to assassinate

734
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: naughty horses. Number five. You know what we don't need

735
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: to do the rest of the list, Ricky, Take us

736
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: to the real song, Take us to the rat Yo,

737
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: turn my mic up a bit. We're all my Estonia

738
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: is at He's so trean. Estonia, Estonia. It's really nice

739
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: to Knowingia, Estonia. It's really nice knowing you. Estonia, Estonia.

740
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: It's really nice Estonia, Estonia. It's really nice knowing you.

741
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: My name is Mark Sessler. I'm Estonia's biggest fan. They

742
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: got these frigid winners across the whole land, voted best

743
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Internet in two thousand twelves, Canada, UK and the US

744
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: collecting dust on Ah. You know my favorite player. I

745
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: can't even front the big BMF monster named Marcus, Hunts,

746
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: Dan and Gregg. All they do is wine, my Estonia is.

747
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: All they do is sha Stonia, Estonia. It's really Nicetonia, Estonia.

748
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: It's really nice Estonia, Estonia. It's really nice Estonia, Estonia.

749
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: It's really weird day. Oh he's in Estonia. Was smooth

750
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: goal with some girl. I just read the line girls,

751
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: I read the lines that. You know, I have a

752
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: writer who helped me with some of those lines. Um,

753
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: someone attached closely to the show, and I thought that

754
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: it was a supreme job by the writer. Did Yeah,

755
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: this was like a long apology to when Mark got

756
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: the Baltic States upset a couple of weeks ago. I

757
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: didn't even connect all of that that. It's all you know,

758
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: you've been feeling well, you can bring you can try

759
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: to bring your lot being heat. Let's see that was great. Well,

760
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: I love to but I got really enjoyed on it.

761
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm already late to pick up Walker, so Lot the

762
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: Latia will have well, good luck to you and I

763
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: will see you all right. All right, Wow, Mark, that

764
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: was I didn't expect that. I gotta say, well, it's

765
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: a character for you. Yeah, I don't think I thought

766
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: it was good. I don't think it's a career path,

767
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: but I had I haven't you know, we have a

768
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: talented producer. So wait, was Ricky the ghostwriter on it too?

769
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: You're saying, or is there somebody else involved? Ricky? Does?

770
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean? She can do it all? So she did

771
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: do it all essentially, um on this production outside of

772
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: me delivering you know, a C minus uh rap showmanship there. Yeah,

773
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Greg likes rap. But now the only documented rapper on

774
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast is Sesslor Sessler dropping bars

775
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: and the biggest of all spots. Not who you would

776
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: have been on. But take it seriously, you know, would

777
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: you think Ricky? Be honest? Now you're you're close to

778
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: the product obviously as the producer and co writer, But

779
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: what did you think assessor's flow? I I was super

780
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: impressed actually because like I wrote it to that beat

781
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: and then I recorded, you know, like the first songwriter's

782
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: track so he could or of copy mine, and yeah,

783
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: he killed it. Well i'd say this, you know, not

784
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I think there's a way to improve. But um, I

785
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: was dedicated to do it. And if that was the

786
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: first take, I could have re recorded it fifty times,

787
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, but I said, first take, bang, let's keep

788
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: it raw, let's get That's what Estonia does. Awesome dude. Awesome,

789
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: but a way to go into the weekend. Everybody. Mark

790
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: Sessler drops a rap solo in the biggest of all spots. Um,

791
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: do we actually have listeners from Estonia by the way, Oh,

792
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: yes we do, Yes we do. We had someone send

793
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: in the video which we can share. What's up that

794
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: I from odsdown Duden just wanted to say much loved

795
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Greg Ricky West special. Shout out to Mark as I

796
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: like to call him, for his unwavering belief in the

797
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: Estonian people, and shout out to Damn for being the

798
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: fan Canada or whatever it's just want to say when

799
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: he was staying in the show, keep up the good work,

800
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: and uh and thank you. That is our listener Christian

801
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: from Estonia. And there are others he believes there are others.

802
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: But it's a small nation, you know. It's not a

803
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: gigantic listenership there, right, And I don't want one thing.

804
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: I want to make clear the Christian kind of insinuated

805
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: a little bit there. This is not Canada versus Estonia.

806
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: We don't need that, No, we don't, because right, why

807
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: lop off like our third largest audience in some sort

808
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: of in house feud feels not productive. All right, good

809
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: good stuff. We'll be back on Monday. Hopefully we got

810
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: West on the on deck for next week, but we

811
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: could just cross our fingers on that one, and until then, everybody,

812
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: have an excellent weekend. Bricky, you stay out of trouble.

813
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: You're You're a house on fire behind the scenes right now.

814
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: And I just want you to. I don't want to.

815
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to read you in the news. What's

816
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: that home alone this weekend too? So if if, if

817
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm if something bad's gonna happen, it's probably gonna be

818
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: this weekend. Oh my god. Alright, well, I guess Mark

819
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: and I are gonna have to come over and keep

820
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: you company. You're gonna have to any minutes, all right,

821
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: that's it. Turn my mic up a bit. We're all

822
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: my Estonia alright, Estonia, Estonia. It's really nice to know you, Estonia.

823
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: It's really nice to know in Estonia. Estonia. It's really

824
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: nice to know Estonia. Estonia. It's really nice to knowing you.

825
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: My name is Mark Sessler. I'm Estonia's biggest fan. They

826
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: got these frigid winners across the whole land. Voted best

827
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Internet in two thousand twelves, Canada, UK and the US

828
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: collected dust on US. You know my favorite player I

829
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: can't even front the big bm it monster named Marcus

830
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: hunts Dan think Greg. All they do is wine my

831
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: Estonia just all they do is shah Estonia, Estonia. It's

832
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: really nice Estonia, Estonia. It's really nice in Estonia. Estonia.

833
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: It's really nice to know. And Estonia, Estonia is really

834
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: nice nowing you wheresay? Oh he's in Estonia is small

835
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: gold