1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we go on the Giants of the 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Giants podcast network. All right, welcome to the newest edition 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: of the Giants Huddle podcast. My name is John Schmilk. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us today. We 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: just concluded the Giants Blue White Scrimmage at the fan 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Fest of MetLife Stadium on Friday night. I am joined 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: now in the booth. He just got finished filming our 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: coverage for MSG and the Giants YouTube channel. He is 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: former Giants center and Super Bowl champion Sean O'Haras. Sean, 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: how are you, man, John, I'm doing great. Great to 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: see you. It's great to be back here in MetLife. Uh, 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: it's great to see the fans here. They were they 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: were energized, they were enthusiastic. It's been a while since 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: we saw this many smiling faces in MetLife, especially while 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: they're doing autographs after the game. Handled like pelting Staycard 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Barkley with footballs as he was trying to get off 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the field. It was very funny. But yeah, look, it 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: was a great environment. Well let's start here then, of 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: a player perspective showing how is this for a player, 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: different and maybe more useful than a normal practice on 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: the practice fields outside of quest. Yeah, I think tonight 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: with this scrimmage, the whole mindset was, let's treat it 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: like a game. And they kind of came in, they 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: had a pregame meal, they had the same kind of routine. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: They came out, got a chance to kind of figure out, 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: all right, what's our pregame routine gonna be. With Brian Dabele. Now, 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: every coach has different, you know, themes and and different 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: timings and different drills that they want to do. So 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: this was a good practice run for them. So the 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: next week when they're playing the Patriots on Thursday night, 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: it's not a fire drill. Now everybody knows here's here's 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. So I think from that standpoint 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: it's great for the players to have that process. But 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: it's also you've got an intensity knob and when you 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: come into the stadium it goes up a click. And 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: when you've got fans in here, and just like a 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: game scenario in a game setting, you crank get up 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: another couple of notches. So I think from that standpoint, 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: it's great for the players to get that opportunity to 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of kind of ratchet up the game speed a 42 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: little bit, the intensity of the tempo. Things happened differently 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: when you get into that game mode. So this was 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: a great kind of dry run or rehearsal for them. 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: And anytime you get fans like this that are excited 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: to be here, I mean there was probably people here. Yeah, 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: the Lower Bowl was like Yeah, I think it makes 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: you play a little harder and it kind of reminds 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: you of why you're doing this. Training camp is presented 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: by for the official SUV of the New York Giants, 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Sean from the actual play now on the field, what 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: stood out to you? Well, I think you know, the 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: two words that we've been looking for from this team 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: is progress and production, and I felt like there was 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: some production offensively, which was nice to seem. Obviously, the 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: big question mark has been Brian Dables offense, Daniel Jones 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: at quarterback. What's it gonna look like? What are we 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: gonna see from them? And I think tonight we saw 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different formations, a lot of different motions. 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: We saw Sambarkle in motion a lot, we saw him 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: out as a receiver, but I think We saw a 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: really competent offense and an offense that can get the 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: ball out and can create space for some of these guys. 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: We saw Wandale Robinson get out in space and make 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: a couple of moves to Darius Tony on on some 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: nice crossing routes. We even saw s Quan out and 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of what looked like a little screenplay. But getting 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: him out in space as a receiver is gonna be 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: a big part of this offense, so I thought that 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: was really good to see. It was good to see 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones just kind of getting in out of the 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: huddle and he scrambled a lot tonight, which I think 73 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: part of that is, look, he's trying to take care 74 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: of the football, um. But I thought the biggest point 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: offensively was when they got down in the red zone, 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: they found a way to finish and he found Kenny 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Golladay in the back of the end zone on one 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: of their drives. And that has been there Achilles Heel 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: certainly last season the last couple of years. Can they 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: get points? Can they not settle for fields when they 81 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: get in the red zone, don't turn the ball over? 82 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: They need touchdowns. That was a big part of it, 83 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I think defensively by the just real quick. Offensively, the 84 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: first team's first drive, they got to the three yard line, 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: couldn't finish. On their first drive, they tried that little 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: back shoulder fade and I think and I thought he 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: had his feet in, so I'm guessing there was a 88 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: babble on the plane. That's why it was kind of 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: cold and complete out of bounds. Yeah, I think it 90 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: was a babble, and by the time he had possession, 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: he was out right. But then they did manage to 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: finish for the touchdown in that second drive on that 93 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: nice little uh. I guess it was a slant right 94 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: to go today over the middle. Yeah, it looked like 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: um actually looked like a little, you know, kind of 96 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: deep out route and you know what the slant was 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: the one that he didn't complete. Remember, they tried that 98 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: little stay slam in the middle, and I thought he 99 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: had a chance to catch it, but he didn't catch it. 100 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, I think that was I think that 101 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: was Julian Love maybe or Darnay Holmes. H No, No, 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: that was Jackson. Yeah. It's been a good battle to watch, 103 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: it really has. They're they're both very physical um, and 104 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think Daniel Jones showed some of the 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: accuracy that you know that the Giants liked about him 106 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: enough to take him sixth overall, so for him, good 107 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: first step, um. I think offensive line wise, I thought 108 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: they did a good job in protection. Andrew Thomas had 109 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: a number of reps against Cavon Thibodeau, and I thought 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas reigned supreme in that matchup. And I think 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: we've seen that during camp so far too. By the way, Yeah, 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, I mean his balance is really I mean 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: it's gone through the roof. So he just looks so comfortable. 114 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: He takes his passet and it's like you're not getting 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: by him, no, no doubt. He looks so confident in 116 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: his hands, is punched everything. I mean, he looks like 117 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: he's he's you know, in that comfort zone and totally 118 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: different from his first year where he kind of looked 119 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: like he was getting out of balance a little bit. 120 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: I thought, Shane lemn you look pretty good um against 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. That's been a good battle in training camp 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: to watch. Certainly, Leonard Williams has kind of has kind 123 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: of had his way with Shane and one on one, 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: by the way, not just Shane, he was beating Glawinsky too, 125 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: He was betting on both cards. Yeah, everybody. Leonard's a handful. 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: He is a powerful dude. So it's great work for Shane. 127 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: It was good to see John Feliciano back in there 128 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: at centers in some time. I think that really kind 129 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: of solidified the group. And then Evan Neil, you know, look, 130 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: I think much like we saw Andrew Thomas out here 131 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: his his rookie year, the very first Blue White Screwmage, 132 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I think Andrew Thomas was people were running by him 133 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: left and right, like he looked like he was standing still. 134 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Evan Neil looked good. I think he's still working on 135 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: some balance issues um and not not bending at the waist. 136 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: But I saw him on a couple of plays really 137 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: just moving guys. There was one play where he drove 138 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Elerson Smith the defensive end. He drove him ten yards 139 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: down the field in the red zone. Put it put 140 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: him in the end zone. And you know, that's kind 141 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: of one of the old line montras. If you put 142 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: your guy in the end zone, we're gonna score. So 143 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I think it was a good, you know, first step 144 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: for uh, the offensive line, and and for those five 145 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: guys to be together really for the first time in 146 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: a game setting like this, I thought they did pretty well. 147 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: I want to dig a little bit deeper on the 148 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: O for a second before you head over the defense fund. 149 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: The one thing that I saw I thought he was 150 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: my favorite offensive tackle the draft. I thought he was wonderful. 151 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: Is you know, he's six six sevent he looks like 152 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: he's but he moves really well. The one thing I 153 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: saw in the cold was that I thought sometimes, especially 154 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: in the run game, he would get up over himself 155 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: a little bit and lean forward a little bit too much, right, 156 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: a little too aggressive. I didn't think I saw that 157 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: though in past protection in college, but I think when 158 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: he's had some issues that's been what the problem is, 159 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: that he sometimes just tries to go forward too much. 160 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: And as a six seven, three fifty guy, if he 161 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: can just sit back in his stance and catch and 162 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: punch the guy, that that's all he has to do, right, Yeah, 163 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: no doubt he's big enough he can absorb that bulrush, 164 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: that power rush. So it's tough. You kind of have 165 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: to fight yourself. Sometimes you can't be too too anxious 166 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: and too eager to get that punch and then you 167 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: you get over your skis and big just use it. Yeah, 168 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: he's a mammoth of a man. I mean you when 169 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: you see him, he was walking next to Daniel Jones, 170 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: and I mean he made Daniel Jones look like Danny DeVito. 171 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: I think that that he's he's like this little like 172 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: this young Golden retriever with these big paws and he 173 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: just doesn't really know yet how to use all that strength. Um. 174 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: But I think he's also getting a little taste of 175 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. The defensive lineman. They used their hands so 176 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: much better like these guys aren't. They're not as skilled 177 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: with the hands and with the punch the push poll 178 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: like we're talking about what Leonard Williams does. So now 179 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: he's he's at a another level. And it's like, Okay, 180 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I can't get over my skis. I 181 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: can't get my face in the block. Exactly the minute 182 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: he leans forward, you get the poll after the push 183 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: and then he's by him right. So those are things 184 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: that I think he'll improve on. And you know what 185 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: what's great about Evan Neil has just been five minutes 186 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: with him, Like this guy cares about being a great 187 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: football player, just like Andrew. They have the same low key. 188 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm from the South. I care, but I'm serious about 189 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: what I do and I'm not a you know, show 190 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: off guy. He's like, you know, he's not. He's what 191 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you want an offensive line into. Yeah, you could tell 192 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: he loves playing football. He's being an offensive lineman. He 193 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: wants to be great. He's not happy with I just 194 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: I got drafted in the first round. Like his whole 195 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: life has been to get to this point and to 196 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: be great. And I think that, you know, this can 197 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: be the start of something special. So, um, I think 198 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: that they they've got to be pretty please with with 199 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: what they saw. Um. I think, just as we're talking 200 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: off with the line, I'll say josh A Zoodo got 201 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: a lot of great work tonight. He was in that 202 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: left tackle, he was in that left guard, and I 203 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a vital component of this offensive 204 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: line because of his versatility. You could throw him in 205 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: any position in a pinch, if somebody goes down, somebody 206 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: gets dinged. He moves pretty well. He's a nice little athlete. 207 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: You know, when you look at him, he doesn't he's 208 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: not as imposing as Evan Neil, but yet with his play, 209 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: like the one thing coming out you and I were 210 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: talking about him coming out and when the Giants drafted him. 211 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: He's got these heavy hands and you always wonder is 212 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: that going to carry over from the college level to 213 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: the NFL level, And it certainly has shown up both 214 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: in practice and tonight. So I think he does a 215 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: great job with that. UM, and I think he's he's 216 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: got great balance, Like you don't see him on the ground, 217 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: you don't see him getting beat and lunging, so he's 218 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: he's got a good technique. From that standpoint, I think 219 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: he's a good fit in Bobby Johnson's offense. Um. I 220 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: think the one blow tonight is Marcus mckeithin their late 221 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: round draft pick from North Carolina. He went down with 222 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: a knee injury, so I think get carted off. Yeah 223 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: that that that obviously, you know, lets a little air 224 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: out of the sales from the night. And they were 225 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: counting on him, um along with a Zudu with the versatility. 226 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: They wanted him to kind of be one of those 227 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: young guys that could be a swing guard, swing tackle. 228 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: So um, it's it's a shame to see something like that. 229 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: Now you hope that Matt Parrot can kind of accelerate 230 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: because now they're gonna have to lean on a guy 231 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: like that even more. Do you feel okay if Zudos 232 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: your swing tackle in week one or is that a 233 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: little bit too quick for him being a rookie. Well, 234 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: I think if he's just swing tackle, it's great as obviously, 235 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: as long as you don't have to go in, you know. 236 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: In other words, it might be a little bit. It's funny. 237 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I always love like, yeah, he's our backup tackle, and 238 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: then he goes in the game, They're like, oh, we 239 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: gotta get him out there and say, well, why the 240 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: hell did you keep him? If they're not good enough 241 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: to play, then why are they here? So I think 242 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Josh is good enough to play. I mean, do you 243 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: want to name any names there? Shot? I don't think 244 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I think Josh. I think he's ready. 245 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: I think you can handle it, uh, you know. And 246 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: I think he's got the great demeanor. And I know 247 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson really likes him a lot, and Tony Sparano Jr. 248 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: The assistant offenser line coach, um, they really like his mindset, 249 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: his mentality. So Josh is one of those guys were 250 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: he's not gonna beat himself, Like, I don't think you 251 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: have to worry about him having mental errors, having vapor 252 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: lock and you know, getting beat from that standpoint. Now, 253 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: we didn't get any numbers, but there I thought they 254 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: were probably for both the offense and the defense. They 255 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: probably weren't thrown with all the flags that were being 256 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: thrown the practice today either. No, but you know what, 257 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: I think you do that for that exact reason, like, hey, 258 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: here the things we need to clean up, because you 259 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: can get into bad habits in practice and when nobody's 260 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: calling you out on it. Um. Obviously there was some 261 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: grabbing going on now, you know, both outside with the 262 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: receivers and dbs and then inside there was a couple 263 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: of those two. But um, I think that's all part 264 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: of the reason why you do this, so that you 265 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: you get a little taste of that. All right, you, 266 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: I interrupt you before you're gonna move on to the defense. 267 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: We got to kind of see wink Martin Dale's at 268 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: least part of his arsenal in display, and it did 269 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: produe some unblocked rushers out of the secondary even Julian 270 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Love would had at least two sacks in the game. 271 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: What do you think of what you saw off from 272 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale's defense. I thought it was as advertised, you know, 273 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: they they We've been talking about Wink Martindale and the 274 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: pressure packages and the different fronts and the versatility, and 275 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: it showed up tonight. And I think, Um, when you 276 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned Julian Love, you know, he's one player, 277 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: he's playing deep safety, the next play he's done at 278 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: the linebacker level, and then you know, on third down 279 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: he's in the hay gap like as a blitzer, and 280 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: he was all over the field. He did everything. So 281 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that there was a number of different times 282 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: tonight where the Giant Stephens had a couple of fronts 283 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: that I think that they they got home. If it 284 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: was a game, it would have been a sack. To 285 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: your point, they would have got home. They would have 286 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: got a hit on the quarterback. They had some free rushers, 287 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: which is you know, that's that's a Wink Martindale calling card. 288 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: How do we get a free guy coming down the 289 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: bottle of the quarterback getting a hit. Um, if it's 290 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: not a sack, we're we're affecting the throw. That's how 291 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: you create turn turnover. So I saw a lot of that. 292 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: I was press with Julian Love. Um. I think that 293 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson is having a great camp. Um. I thought 294 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Robinson looked pretty good. Darnay Holmes looked excellent. Darren 295 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Everytons made a couple of plays in the corner. Um. 296 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: It was good to see Blake Martinez in there. Um. 297 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: He was involved in a couple of different blitz packages. 298 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Um he went. He went one on one with Sakekwan 299 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Barkley a couple of times, and some blitzes they saw 300 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: picked him up really nice on that one blitz right 301 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: up to the A gap. Yeah, he kind of scraped 302 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: around the side. So um it was it was a 303 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: good chess match going on there with Daniel Jones at 304 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: the line, and there was a couple of times where 305 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: he got the ball out quick. Um. You know they 306 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: went empty formation and there was a blitz in both 307 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: a gaps and Cavon Thibodeau was unblocked off the edge 308 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: and Dania Jones saw the same thing that the offensive 309 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: line saw and got the ball out. So those were 310 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: all good things to build on. Um. I think tonight 311 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: it was obvious that they really wanted to work on 312 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: the passing game. There wasn't a whole lot of run plays. Um, 313 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: it was definitely more of a pass heavy game plan tonight. 314 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: If they're not and they get they weren't pets tonight, 315 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: But generally speaking, if they're not in pads, they don't 316 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: run it like they're just like there's no point in 317 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: running without pads on it and as an offensive line, 318 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: and I guess that doesn't make sense to an extent, right, Yeah, 319 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: I think you're just trying to avoid the pile ups 320 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: and the bodies. When you get full pads and you 321 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: start doing nine on seven, inevitably people start falling on 322 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: each other, they go to the ground, and guys get finished. Um, 323 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: so you try to avoid all that. But um, I 324 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: thought defensively they did a good job. Um. You know, 325 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: they created some turnovers there at the end of the night. 326 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: There there was a couple of interception There was a 327 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: a fumble day forced on Austin prol down and on 328 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: the end zone, which was good to see. Um. I thought, Oh, 329 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Shanezamnes looked pretty good. Um, he's had some nice reps too, 330 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: and in practice this year, and so was so was 331 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: um uh Quincy Rochet. Both of them have had some 332 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: nice little outside rushed snaps. Yeah, they've done a good job. 333 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes you've got to take that in context because 334 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: they're running with the twos and so maybe you know 335 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: they're going up against the second string offensive line and 336 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: it's worth third string, So that's a little bit um different. 337 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought came on Thibodeaux. You know, 338 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: he he looked, he looked good. I watched a little 339 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: bit of Cordell Flat in the slot, and you know 340 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I thought he he he held his own like, he 341 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: looked like he belonged. Um. I'll say this, Sewan, you 342 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: haven't really noticed Cordell Flat at practice much. That's a 343 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: good thing for cornerbacks anything with an offensive one. If 344 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: you don't notice them, it means they're probably doing their job. 345 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. Yeah, so 346 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: when you look at this defense overall, Sean, and we'll 347 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: do a cop more before we say goodbye here. But 348 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: first on ourmind, Giant fans that they can either order 349 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: their two season tickets or get a sweet package right 350 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: now called eight eight eight n y G it's just 351 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: a hundred dollar UM deposit. If you want tickets, you 352 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: get access to schools of events, experiences, pre sales and more. 353 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: And then for the sweets, you get a premier hospitality experience. 354 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: You get access to concerts, you can place depositive individual games, 355 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: get a season location, whatever you want. Just called eight 356 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: eight eight n y G or go to giants dot 357 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: com slash tickets or giants dot com slash suites for 358 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: more information. So what's sewing for you? Is the key 359 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: for this defense then to be effective this year? Because 360 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: obviously the scheme can can do a lot to help. 361 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: But what personnel group for you is the most important 362 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: one to step up and play well if you want 363 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: this defense to be success. Good question. I think we're 364 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: talking about all these different pressure pressure packages and different 365 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: fronts and personnels, and that's great on third down. And 366 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, Wink Martindale and you know you, When I 367 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: think about the Baltimore Ravens defense, I go back to 368 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: like Rex Ryan, and you know, you look at all 369 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: these different packages they had. It was a nightmare. It was. 370 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: It was tough wrapping your head around all the different 371 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: blitzes and different personnels and who's who's where. That's great 372 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: and dandy, but if you don't take care of things 373 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: on first and second down, then you don't ever get 374 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: to do the fun stuff on third down. So I 375 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: think the challenge for this defense really is going to 376 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: be stopping the run. I think they were twenty five 377 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: last year in the NFL. Um they were giving up 378 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: a hunter and thirty yards a game on the ground. 379 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: You you just can't win football games a week in 380 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: a week out when you're doing that. So I think 381 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: the challenge for them is gonna be can they can 382 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: they bow up? You know when when they start to 383 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: go up against some of these big time running offenses. 384 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: And look, the Giants are starting out week one with 385 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. So here comes Derrick Henry and Christian McCaffrey 386 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: and we do it in a week right. So and 387 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: and they've got some you know, i'd say two out 388 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: of those three teams have really good offensive lines. Yeah. 389 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: And the Eagles man had the best run game in 390 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: all football. Yeah, they were number one in the league 391 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: last year. So, um, they've got some big bodies. That's 392 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the big challenge. And you know, look, we 393 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: didn't mention Dexter Lawrence. I was actually about to ask 394 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: you because I thought he had one place where you 395 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: just deposited Flico on the ground and got Barkley for 396 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: a tackle for loss. Today, I think Dexter is one 397 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: of those guys when when you're not talking much about him, 398 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: that means he's doing he's doing his job as well. Um. 399 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: But you know, the interesting thing really is going to 400 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: be the linebackers for the Giants. I feel like that's 401 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: kind of been one of their weaknesses over the last 402 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: few years. They've tried to address what Blake Martinez. Um, 403 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: They've tried to bring some guys in. Take Crowder, he's 404 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of their nickel linebacker right now. Darrene Beavers. I 405 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: think it's looked pretty good too. The Reavers does look good. 406 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: He I tell you what, physically, he doesn't look like 407 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: a rook he looks right now. Seriously. I mean they 408 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: got him listed at sift five and when that guy 409 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: comes downhill, he brings a hammer with him. So inside 410 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: linebackers are pounds anymore. Yeah, Yeah, I'm really curious to see, 411 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: you know, how he emerges. Um. You know, they've got 412 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: some young guys. Carter Coughlin is still trying to kind of, 413 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, find a way to get reps. Um. I'm 414 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: curious to see how Michael McFadden, UM, you know, ends 415 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: up fitting in to this defense. But um, I like Beavers, 416 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: I think that this defense that's gonna be the key 417 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: first and second down, like, can we find a way 418 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: to bow up? Can we slow people down? Um? Keevan 419 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Thibodeau obviously he's gonna be a part of that. And 420 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think once they've kind of figured out, 421 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: all right, where do we want to play him? Do 422 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: we want to play him at sam linebacker? Um? Obviously 423 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: no Auzies Ogilari, which is you know that he's a 424 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: big part of the defense. So hopefully can get him 425 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: back sooner than later. He's still on the n f 426 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: I No Football Injury list with a hamster right right, 427 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: so you know he's missing some time. Once he comes back, 428 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: I think they'd ideally like Cavon to be the same 429 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and then Gilari be the will um, which I feel 430 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: like would really make this front pretty stout. So you 431 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: feel okay with the cornerbacks then, because I think in 432 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: wings scheme, right and we saw with the Ravens last year. 433 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Once they're you know, they have some of the best 434 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: corners in the league, went Humphries Peters. Once those guys 435 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: went out, it became problematic in the back half of 436 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: the Yeah, and I think they lost like two of 437 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: them in one in one game. So, um, that was 438 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: a tough blow for them last year. Well, I mean 439 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: we've got to see you know, I think Aaron Robinson. Look, 440 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: it's one thing to look good in practice, look good 441 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: against your own team, and you're receivers that you know 442 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: because you've been going against them every single day. How 443 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: does he play in the games? You know? Can he 444 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: lock down that other spot? Um? I think a dory 445 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: is set on one side. And then for Aaron it's 446 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: really his job to lose right now. Um, it's darnay 447 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: inside too, right, Yeah, darnay inside. Um. You know, look, 448 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: Julian and Xavier, they both can can slide in and 449 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: play corner and I think they'll be fine. I don't 450 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: think worry about I'm not worried about them at all. 451 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: And then I'll see the same question offensively, then, what's 452 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: the one position group that you think will be the 453 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: fullcorn point in terms of how this unit is going 454 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: to play this year. I think tight end for right 455 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: now is kind of up in the air. Bellinger has 456 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: looked good. I think he looks like a better receiver 457 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: than than we thought he was gonna be when they 458 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: drafted him. Um, you go back and look at his 459 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: stats at San Diego UH State, and you know, he 460 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: wasn't really he wasn't receiving tight end. He was an 461 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: h back. They really pass it. He he was blocking 462 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: Jorge of the time, so you didn't really get to 463 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: see how good his hands were. And I've been very 464 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I've been very impressed with his hands. I just don't 465 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: know in this offense how how much of a part 466 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna play. So I think that's something to keep 467 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: an eye on. And um, you know, like I said, look, 468 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: the run game in this offense, this is not going 469 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: to be a I formation old school you know, we're 470 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: running thirty six power and we've got a fullback and 471 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: a tight end and we're going up against base person run. 472 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: So it's not that type of run game. It's gonna 473 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: be more shotgun runs. We're seeing a lot of zone reads. Um, 474 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: so I think the running game is going to be 475 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: a factor. But out of a different personnel and kind 476 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: of have a different look to it. They're gonna dress 477 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: it up differently, So that's still TVD. I think tonight 478 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: what we saw from the wide receivers is encouraging, UM 479 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: and they were still healthy by which is a big 480 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: part of that huge part of it. UM. We saw 481 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: Kenny Gallant with some makes, some contested catches. Obviously we 482 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the touchdown in the red zone. I think Wandell Robinson, 483 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he has looked better than anybody expected. 484 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: He just like it seems like he's playing at a 485 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: different speed and he's got unbelievable acceleration, Like after two 486 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: two to three steps, it seems like he's already created 487 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: separation in space. So I'm really excited to see him. 488 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: Darius Tony obviously, health with him is a big factor. UM. 489 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: The fact that both he and Kenny have not had 490 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: one jury issue yet and we're about two weeks in 491 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: the camp essential for this team to be successful. It is, 492 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: that's crucial, no doubt. All right, final question as a 493 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: player the next week from yesterday, actually the Johnson will 494 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: be playing in the first preseason game, So what's this 495 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: upcoming week like what are the goals? And then what 496 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: are your goals for that first preseason game. Yeah, I 497 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: think it's great when the games you know are are 498 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: on the horizon. You know. I think sometimes you get 499 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: into training camp and it's like you can't even see 500 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: the finish line and you're just kind of like it's 501 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Groundhog Day and you're, you know, you're just kind of 502 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: going through the everyday scenarios. And um, once the games 503 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: you know are on that horizon, now all right, you 504 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: get a little extra juice. And then also you kind 505 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: of get the chance to say, all right, we're facing 506 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: a different defense, different front, different philosophies, so you can 507 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, you get the juices flown a 508 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: little bit, and I think it definitely helps ratchet things up. Um, 509 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: and with every preseason game. The good news with that 510 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: is it just means you're one week closer to the 511 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: real stuff. Only three preseason games, now, man, you would 512 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: have signed up for that one. You're a player, Oh yeah, yeah, 513 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. And you know, look for a lot of veterans, 514 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: they would only play in three anyways. Um, you know 515 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: that fourth game was kind of a throwaway game. But um, 516 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think as as players to like to 517 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: play the plate. Patriots, like you know what, they are 518 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: always a welld coach team. I think it's always a 519 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: great litmus test for a team, both from a coaching 520 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: standpoint and from a players standpoint. If you have flaws 521 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: in your game, if you have flaws in your techniques, 522 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: when you play the Patriots, they will find it and 523 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: they will show up. So UM, I think it's a 524 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity. And you talk about stopping the run. 525 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: What better team the poop you can stop to run 526 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: against the Patriots who have one of the best run 527 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: blocking offensive lines in the whole league, and they want 528 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: to run the ball first and foremost, right, Yeah, no 529 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: doubt they They seem to just churn running backs out. 530 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: You know every single year. They've got three three guys 531 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: that they just rotate in um and and they do 532 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: a great job with the personnel matchup, so that that'll 533 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: be fun to watch stuff. See you this week at camp. 534 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you guys stay tuned the Giants dot Com, 535 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: the Giant, Small black Ball, or social media platforms as 536 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: we continue to cover Giants training camp. Saturday is an 537 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: off day, then we're back for practice on Sunday, Monday, 538 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: and then throughout the rights of the next week up 539 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: until that game on Thursday, so Wednesdays and off day 540 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: after three straight days of practice for Shonahar. I'm John Shamallo. 541 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on this episode of the Giant 542 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: Subtle Podcast, live from the fan Fest and Blue White 543 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Scrimmage at MetLife Stadium. We'll see you next time.