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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody, so the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show on this Monday. It's great of

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Speaker 1: you to join from all over the country and for

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Speaker 1: our digital listeners perhaps all over the world. We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot going on over the weekend. We'll dive in

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Speaker 1: quite clearly intended to intimidate Supreme Court justices outside of

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Speaker 1: their own homes. Mobs have gathered, and we'll discuss what's

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Speaker 1: going on with that. The White House doing a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a walk back on it's fine. People are

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Speaker 1: just passionate to realize that that's way beyond what you

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Speaker 1: can claim if you're going to say you're all for

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Speaker 1: civil discourse. Really, because they're threatening Supreme Court justices and

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Speaker 1: this White House was essentially complicit in that by refusing

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Speaker 1: to condemn it. We'll discuss what this is likely to

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Speaker 1: turn into. Plus, the baby formula shortage across America right now,

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal and people are really parents, moms

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Speaker 1: The price is up dramatically, and this comes against a

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Speaker 1: backdrop of the Biden administration, supply chain issues, inflation at

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Speaker 1: a forty year high, the stock market getting crushed again today,

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Speaker 1: all the gains essentially wiped out from Biden's presidency to now.

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Speaker 1: So if you've had your money sitting there, if you've

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Speaker 1: it turns out that the Fauciites and the people who

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Speaker 1: pushed for lockdowns, the massive spending which did nothing positive.

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Speaker 1: I have to remember that not only was it extremely negative,

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Speaker 1: pushed all kinds of people into despair, into suicide, destroyed businesses,

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Speaker 1: People got fired from their jobs for not getting the shot.

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Speaker 1: We had to stand six apart outside and the freezing

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Speaker 1: I mean, the idiotic stuff we were all put through.

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Speaker 1: None of it was worthwhile, none of it was good.

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Speaker 1: And Fauci is out there getting an honorary doctrine. Bill

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Speaker 1: Gates is walking around saying, yeah, you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: we kind of didn't understand that it really wasn't that dangerous.

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Speaker 1: As a virus to younger people, which is a huge lie.

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Speaker 1: Steam actually comes out of Clay's ears when he sees

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Speaker 1: that clip, by the way, like he actually do it,

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Speaker 1: really does it. We start to lose our minds over here.

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Speaker 1: But let's just start with this because Clay, there's a

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Speaker 1: legal component of this that I wanted to get to.

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Speaker 1: First off, here's what it sounds like. If you were

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Speaker 1: to say, over the weekend, walk past, if you're a

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Speaker 1: we're hearing. It's interesting on so many levels. One is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, they're not trying to make it. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to convince Justice Cavanaugh of the constitutionality of

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Speaker 1: abortion by shrieking like morons on his front lawn. It's

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Speaker 1: meant to be a threat. That's one part of it.

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Speaker 1: And the other part of this is it's actually not

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Speaker 1: statutory you cannot gather and protest at someone's home and

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Speaker 1: essentially disrupt the peace. But the police aren't doing anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is one where I think, regardless of your politics, Democrat, Republican, independent, indifferent,

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Speaker 1: And you talked about this last week, Buck, the fact

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Speaker 1: at other people. I just fundamentally reject this, and I

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Speaker 1: Podas strongly believes in the constitutional right to protest, but

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Speaker 1: that should never include violence, threats, or vandalism. Just perform

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Speaker 1: an incredibly important function in our society. They must be

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Speaker 1: So to me, this feels they're not directly saying don't protest,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like a fig leaf, because Buck, what

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Speaker 1: easily see buck how that could turn violent, how somebody

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Speaker 1: That is a threat in leadrect threat in moral terms,

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Speaker 1: this is a really bad look for them. And look,

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Speaker 1: the politics of this potential Supreme Court case are more

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Speaker 1: if if conservatives suddenly didn't like a decision that the

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Speaker 1: And that is a content neutral position that I believe

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Speaker 1: sure you saw as well. A lot of people listening

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Speaker 1: certainly saw that there were these and to call them

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Speaker 1: protests is actually to dignify them more than they deserve,

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Speaker 1: because there was true lunacy on display at Catholic churches,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people are watching, including Latino voters who,

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Speaker 1: Hispanics have become more Republican in the past several years,

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Speaker 1: then white voters have one of the you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: They have not made a pivot where I go, oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought they are laying the groundwork again, buck for

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Speaker 1: unlimited mail in voting, for unlimited absentee ballots, for abilities

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Speaker 1: whether eighty one million people voted for Joe Biden or not. Right,

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Speaker 1: But the reality was the biggest part of the rigged

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Speaker 1: well what am I king going? I mean, the murder

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Speaker 1: clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas. So, Carrie, you have been

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Speaker 1: news that this Alito draft opinion had leaked? How stunning

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court, it just doesn't happen. Thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Kerry Savarino, Judicial Crisis Network President, former

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Speaker 1: Clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas. Okay, Kerry, So if you

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Speaker 1: we don't know what Chief Justice Roberts is going to do.

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Speaker 1: Right now. It's a five to four it appears majority.

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Speaker 1: Should they expedite the release of this opinion? Given the

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Speaker 1: physical danger as a result of this. I would hope

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Speaker 1: that all the justices would say, you know what, let's

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Speaker 1: this done right now, and get it out and then um,

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Speaker 1: to be people outraged about the opinion. Frankly, whatever ends

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Speaker 1: up happening with it, it's not going to be one

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Speaker 1: of those opinions that just yeah, carried. How concerned are

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Speaker 1: you that we could actually see a flip and that

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Speaker 1: it would go five four in the other direction and

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Speaker 1: actively the league and pressure campaign and threats would have

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Speaker 1: been successful. Well, you know what, I hope, and I

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Speaker 1: mind of any who are who are considering. You know

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Speaker 1: that maybe maybe this kind of outrage would be something

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Speaker 1: that I would not want to see. Maybe they maybe

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to see. And I think none of

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Speaker 1: of activity. But um, I would hope this would never

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Speaker 1: be something that would make them switch their votes. Now

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Speaker 1: we know they have life tenure under the Constitution specifically

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Speaker 1: to allow them to have that independence to not have

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Speaker 1: to be looking at the outside effects. Although obviously you

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Speaker 1: changes that whether you got life tenure or not, right,

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Speaker 1: But um, but I would hope that they would they

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Speaker 1: would be able to stay firm. Again, I would love

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Speaker 1: it if the Chief Justice said, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: going to I'm going to join this opinion just to

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Speaker 1: make the points that I'm I'm gonna not gonna be

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Speaker 1: bullied by by these things. And I think recognizing too

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Speaker 1: that he's not trying trying to uphold row is simply

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Speaker 1: not legally plausible. If you're off holding the missip lot

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Speaker 1: as well, it's just completely at odds with that decision.

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Speaker 1: You have kind of have to take one or the other,

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Speaker 1: and he's trying to have it both ways. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts unfortunately. But Kerry Savarino, everybody, Judicial Crisis

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Speaker 1: Network President, former Clerk to Justice Thomas Kerrie. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: Give me a massive number of people that are out

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Speaker 1: there listening to us, And unfortunately, as we have continued

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Speaker 1: to discuss the fallout of the wrongheaded decisions by the

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Speaker 1: lockdown crowd, by people who wanted to shut down schools,

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Speaker 1: by the people who insisted that you wear masks everywhere,

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Speaker 1: all of that fallout, and unfortunately it's continuing as young

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Speaker 1: wear masks. Two year olds are still massed up in

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Speaker 1: New York City. But I saw this study and it

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Speaker 1: gives me some measure of hope that as we continue

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Speaker 1: to move through this, there's going to be a reckoning.

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Speaker 1: And the reckoning needs to happen in November at the

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Speaker 1: ballot box. But also the reckoning needs to happen in

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Speaker 1: terms of people having to acknowledge that they're chosen heroes.

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Speaker 1: The doctor Fauci's of the world failed them. And I

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Speaker 1: am encouraged in some level. Buck by this because some

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Speaker 1: of the places that are putting out these studies. This

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Speaker 1: is not right wing news dot com, right, this is

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Speaker 1: not a necessarily outlet that you would anticipate would be

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Speaker 1: coming out with this study, and the one that I'm

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Speaker 1: referencing today just came out got a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: so far. This morning. Harvard did a study and into

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Speaker 1: that oxymoron of remote learning, and they found that gaps

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Speaker 1: widen in school districts like Florida and Texas that mostly

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Speaker 1: Florida and Texas. And I'm reading directly from their study. Interestingly,

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Speaker 1: in Texas and Florida where schools remained in person, gaps

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Speaker 1: did not widen. This is racial and socioeconomic gaps. Where

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Speaker 1: schools shifted to remote learning, gaps widened sharply. Shifting to

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Speaker 1: remote instruction was like turning a switch on a critical

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Speaker 1: piece of our social infrastructured we'd taken for granted. Our

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Speaker 1: findings imply public tools truly are the balance wheel of

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Speaker 1: social machinery, and that that was broken by our COVID responses. So, Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that reckoning hopefully will start in November.

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Speaker 1: But also, these people who argued you don't want to

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Speaker 1: be on the wrong side of history, Buck, they are

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Speaker 1: their response to COVID. It's just a question of how

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Speaker 1: long it will take for this to become consensus opinion.

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Speaker 1: But for the Rhn decantis Is of the world and

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Speaker 1: the Greg Abbots, both of whom are up for reelection.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to us in Florida and Texas, as

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Speaker 1: many of you are, you need to be sharing this

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Speaker 1: data with your suburban mother friends, with your friends who

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Speaker 1: are willing to be persuadable. And we need absolute landslides

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Speaker 1: in this state to ratify the decisions that were made

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Speaker 1: graphic fascinating. Just so I can explain to everybody who's listening,

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Speaker 1: forty five percent of Republicans had faith in science until

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Democrats go way up to sixty

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Democrats decided where the Science party,

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Speaker 1: the idea that they are the idea that they have

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Speaker 1: is wearing his mask. You know who that was? King

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Speaker 1: NBA Lib Steve Kerr, he would wear his mask. He's

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is the head coach, is wearing his mask,

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Speaker 1: and what's he doing constantly pulling the mask down to

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Speaker 1: and I'll probably tweet about it because I didn't tweet

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Speaker 1: and he's regularly constantly pulling it down because you can't

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Speaker 1: doing this. This is like people who this is the

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Speaker 1: same the same scientific mentality, you could say, as somebody

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Speaker 1: who thinks that they're protecting themselves effectively from a very

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Speaker 1: contagious venereal disease by taking the prophylactic device on and

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Speaker 1: off many times over the course of their session. You know,

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Speaker 1: take it on and take it off, take it on,

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Speaker 1: take off. Yeah, I'm protected. Kind of No, you're not. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you're wasting your time with this, which is the same

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Speaker 1: thing that you had had with planes and the mask

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Speaker 1: up between bites. And I mean, I am still almost

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Speaker 1: in all the stupidity of the Delta Airlines flight attendant

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Speaker 1: I have I had just a few weeks ago, maybe

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Speaker 1: a month ago, who was saying that people were taking

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Speaker 1: wasn't just me? So people say, oh, it's because she

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Speaker 1: knows you. No, no, no, anybody who was taking too

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Speaker 1: long between bites. She thought she was keeping us safe

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Speaker 1: by saying, sir, you've that's enough, Like that's enough time

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Speaker 1: between bites. You need to mask up in between bites.

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Speaker 1: These are people who are mentally ill. They actually have

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Speaker 1: This is like people who will not go at This

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Speaker 1: is like agoraphobia. They will not go outside. They almost

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Speaker 1: have a fear of breathing fresh air and not having

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Speaker 1: the mask on their face. In fact, I think we

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Speaker 1: should come up with some term of phobia without masking,

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Speaker 1: because that's what this really is. I'll have to look

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Speaker 1: at what the what the Greek would be on this,

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Speaker 1: the ancient Greek. Well, and to your point, did you

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Speaker 1: see and we need to talk about this too, because

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Speaker 1: it's just so ridiculous. But I'll give a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a tease here for later in the show. Did

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Speaker 1: you see the idiot md online who said as soon

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Speaker 1: as masks are removed on airplanes? I want to read

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Speaker 1: her tweet here. As we get ready to finish the cancelations, everywhere,

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna get canceled. Every everything on the planet basically

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Speaker 1: is going to get canceled. Uh, you're you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to fly anywhere, all of this ridiculousness and uh,

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Speaker 1: and it completely fell apart. There was out there. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: ahead I thought you want to should we tease it?

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Speaker 1: Should we play the tease game, and I'll read this

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Speaker 1: tweet when we come back. Let's play when we come back.

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Speaker 1: What I just want to say, it's nice, right, you

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Speaker 1: and me and this audience can sleep well at night

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Speaker 1: knowing that we were not the jackasses for two years

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Speaker 1: who thought that all this stuff was a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say there should be some real solace

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Speaker 1: taken in. We were right, they were wrong, and that

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Speaker 1: does have its own its own it has its own reward.

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Speaker 1: But I want the scoreboard to reflect it. And that's

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Speaker 1: why November needs to be so. I want CNN and

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Speaker 1: MSNB siying literal tears rolling down their cheeks. I want

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Speaker 1: Welter curled up in a ball in the corner asking

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Speaker 1: Mommy to make it stop as those election returns come in.

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Speaker 1: And I want and I know you're in New York City,

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Speaker 1: but I want all those people living in New York

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Speaker 1: in LA who have no idea how the rest of

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Speaker 1: the country is living, to be trying to explain what

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Speaker 1: the national electorate is saying. When I feel like living

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Speaker 1: here in Nashville and traveling around for college football games,

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Speaker 1: which to me is the heartbeat of America, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I have my finger on the pulse of America

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Speaker 1: really really well. And this destruction that is coming in November,

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Speaker 1: I think it is going to blow the minds of

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Speaker 1: the East and West coast lives and they're not going

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Speaker 1: to be able to really understand what the message. It's

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Speaker 1: the only way to restore balance. It's the only way

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Speaker 1: to restore sanity. Actually, if if it doesn't happen, we're

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Speaker 1: in trouble as a country, no doubt. By the way,

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Speaker 1: inflation is coming out the newest number this week for

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Speaker 1: Consumer access dot org. Welcome back to the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. As promised, our friend Ali Beth

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Speaker 1: Stucky is with us now. She is host of the

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Speaker 1: podcast Relatable, author of You're Not Enough, and a writer

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Speaker 1: at World Magazine. Ali, thanks for joining us, Yeah, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. Can we start because there's obviously so

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Speaker 1: much bide administration, imploding inflation, abortion, decision looming. We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot we can talk to you about, but I

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Speaker 1: just want to know what are you hearing. You're plugged

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Speaker 1: into this community. You know what it's like for the

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Speaker 1: young moms out there, the baby formula shortage. I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: people really really freaked out about this because what are

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Speaker 1: they supposed to do? Yeah, this is terrifying in so

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Speaker 1: many ways, and I think a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: even consider. I am friends with people who are foster

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Speaker 1: parents who have recently adopted. I have friends who have

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Speaker 1: kids who have special allergies and special needs that require

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Speaker 1: them to have a certain kind of formula. This is

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Speaker 1: an insanely impactful and pervasive problem. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: your worst nightmare if you're a mom who is trying

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Speaker 1: to feed your child, to get your child and nutrients

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Speaker 1: that it needs, like bare minimum. First priority as a

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Speaker 1: mother is to take care of your child in this way,

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Speaker 1: and you are literally helpless, especially if you are someone

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Speaker 1: who maybe doesn't have the means that others do. If

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Speaker 1: you have lots of dollars laying around, you might be

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Speaker 1: able to stockpile the formula if you can find it,

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Speaker 1: or you can order some expensive brand overseas, but for

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Speaker 1: working class women, for the average woman, especially for a

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Speaker 1: woman who is impoverished, it is almost getting impossible for

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Speaker 1: them to feed their children. That is a very scary prospect. Ali,

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Speaker 1: what are thanks for coming on the show? By the way,

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Speaker 1: what are moms being told and dads who have to

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Speaker 1: go out to buy this formula? What are they being

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Speaker 1: told about? How long this shortage is going to last,

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Speaker 1: how much worse it might get. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: alarming on an incredibly high level for anybody out there

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Speaker 1: that has raised kids and has had to buy formula,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, because this is one of those things

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Speaker 1: that it's hard to replicate with something else. What are

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Speaker 1: moms being told? Yeah, that's part of the anxiety, right,

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Speaker 1: is that they just kind of being told as vague

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Speaker 1: answer supply chain issues, which we can talk about all

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Speaker 1: the different possibilities and all of the different reasons causing that.

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Speaker 1: Some of it also is a recall that happened to

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Speaker 1: add It Labs. Unfortunately, there is contamination of the formula

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Speaker 1: that led to the sickness of lots of babies and

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Speaker 1: the death of two babies, and so that's scary. So

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Speaker 1: there's just less formula in circulation and they're not being

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Speaker 1: told any answers is to really why. And then also

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Speaker 1: when it's going to end, there are suppliers or stores

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Speaker 1: like Target, like CBS, like Walgreen saying that for the

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Speaker 1: foreseeable future they are just going to have to ration

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Speaker 1: the formula. So I don't have any answers. A Biden

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Speaker 1: administration doesn't seem to have any answers. These suppliers don't

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Speaker 1: seem to have any answers. I true, I wish I

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Speaker 1: could say there's light at the end of the tunnel,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't have that kind of a positive

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Speaker 1: vision right now. Ali also want to ask you your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the situation of the Supreme Court justice who

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Speaker 1: have lunatics shrieking at them from their front lawns of

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Speaker 1: their private, you know, their homes, and an unwillingness it

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Speaker 1: seems from most of the Democrat media. The White House

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Speaker 1: just changed their position from hey, people are upset, too

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Speaker 1: bad too Okay, maybe don't threaten Supreme Court justices, but

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Speaker 1: this feels like a very combustible situation, and I think

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Speaker 1: the unhinged and to some demonic components of the left

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Speaker 1: are coming out for everyone to see. And it's not

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Speaker 1: just the Supreme Court justices and the Young Children of

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Speaker 1: Justice League cabin On a Barratt that are being you know,

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Speaker 1: intimidated and threatened right now. We're also talking about people

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Speaker 1: with far less security and far fewer places to go,

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Speaker 1: like your pregnancy resource centers. Unfortunately, we've seen on Twitter

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Speaker 1: pictures of these resource centers being vandalized. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: are clinics. These are centers that are helping women no

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Speaker 1: matter what they ultimately decide to do with their to see.

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Speaker 1: They're offering pre pregnancy classes, free babies, supplied, maternity closed,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things. And as you said, these demonic

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Speaker 1: pro abortion activists, for whatever reason, feel that they need

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Speaker 1: to vandalize and in some cases burn down these clinics

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Speaker 1: because they are so rabid and intent on seeing more

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Speaker 1: babies murdered. And it really is sad. But I hope

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Speaker 1: people see more than they ever have that this is

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Speaker 1: a really a light versus darkness dichotomy more than it

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Speaker 1: is a political battle. Ali, I'm curious what you're hearing

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Speaker 1: from moms because I talked about this on the show

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. I was out with a group of couples

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Speaker 1: a lot of different moms of a variety of different

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Speaker 1: political persuasions, and what I found was just I was

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Speaker 1: just having a conversation with them about what their thoughts

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Speaker 1: were on the Alito opinion leak. It's amazing to me

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Speaker 1: that people who are pro choice define themselves very strongly

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Speaker 1: pro choice. Almost all of them that I talked to said, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I would never support an abortion in the seventh, eighth,

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Speaker 1: or ninth month of pregnant, see when the child is

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Speaker 1: in many ways potentially able to survive outside of the womb.

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Speaker 1: And similarly, people who said, hey, I'm one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: pro life, obviously, we're okay with birth control. Everyone that

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Speaker 1: I was talking with, they were okay with exceptions in

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Speaker 1: the life of the mother certainly an incest and ape

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Speaker 1: and other things. How much agreement, and this may be

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Speaker 1: a surprise question, but it surprised me there's actually a

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Speaker 1: ton of agreement on abortion, and now that every state

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Speaker 1: has to make decisions, I think democrats are going to

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Speaker 1: find when you go into the specific details of abortion,

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Speaker 1: there isn't as much support for certainly all the way

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Speaker 1: up to nine month pregnancy as they're trying to argue

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Speaker 1: through the media. Have you started to see those conversations

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Speaker 1: take place, maybe an indifferent way, that the shift has

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Speaker 1: gone from should Rove Wade be the law of the

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Speaker 1: land to okay, what should abortion policy look like? Because

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued by the actions and responses when

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Speaker 1: you have those conversations. Well, you're absolutely right, and putting

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Speaker 1: my own opinions aside, I'm really as anti abortion as

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Speaker 1: you can get. The average American is extremely what I

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Speaker 1: would call moderate on this issue. You'll hear a lot

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Speaker 1: of pro choice activist day. While the majority of people

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Speaker 1: want women to have access to abortion, they support Roe v. Wade,

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Speaker 1: But also the reality is that most people don't really

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Speaker 1: understand what Roe v Wade is. They think that if

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Speaker 1: Rovwade is overturned, then America is going to abolish abortion

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Speaker 1: across the land. Most people in America do believe in exceptions,

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Speaker 1: even if they consider themselves pro life. Again putting my

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Speaker 1: own personal opinions to decide that it's just typical of

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Speaker 1: the average Americans. But as you mentioned, most Americans also

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Speaker 1: believe that there should be restriction, especially when you get

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Speaker 1: into this second and third trimester, and that really has

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Speaker 1: been Eddie. I mean, the last has moved far left

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Speaker 1: over the past ten and twenty years, for sure, but

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Speaker 1: when it comes to abortion, the average American really has

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Speaker 1: stayed the same in what they consider to be a

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Speaker 1: good abortion policy. So if the LAFT really cares about

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Speaker 1: democracy as much as they say they do, if they

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Speaker 1: really are so confident that Americans want access to abortion,

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Speaker 1: then let's put it up to a vote, which is

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Speaker 1: exactly what would happen across the state. Of course, if

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Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade is overturned, it would be our democratic

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Speaker 1: processes playing out in state legislatures. I feel like we're

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Speaker 1: making you are unofficial but semi official Mom whisperer here

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Speaker 1: in real time, because I got another mom question for you,

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Speaker 1: and that is with the school issue that we've seen

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Speaker 1: and teaching of CRT and all of the all of

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Speaker 1: the back and forth at the school board meetings, are

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Speaker 1: you getting the sense that moms, we know moms were

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Speaker 1: fired up, right, that would be we saw that in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that in some key some key indicators, including

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Speaker 1: in some elections. Let's call it six seven months ago.

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Speaker 1: But are they still fired up? Do you think that

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Speaker 1: the shutdowns of schools for COVID the teaching of CRT

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Speaker 1: and now the teaching the transagenda might surprise some folks

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Speaker 1: with how much that motivates parents, moms, but parents in

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Speaker 1: general to show up at the polls in this midterm. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can absolutely bet the Democrats that's exactly what Democrats

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Speaker 1: are trying to distract women and moms from using this

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Speaker 1: abortion issue and trying to stoke courage around abortion. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to make them forget about what Democrats did to

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Speaker 1: their children over the past couple of years. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that it's going to work. I don't think abortion

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Speaker 1: mobilize it independent or moderate women as much as they

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Speaker 1: think that it does, and so I do think it's

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Speaker 1: an issue. I do think that the radicalism and school

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Speaker 1: curriculum is going to be an issue. I think the economy, inflation,

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Speaker 1: the lack of supplies like baby formula that moms are

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Speaker 1: able to find, I think that that's going to be

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Speaker 1: far more mobilizing than the abortion issue, for sure. And

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Speaker 1: I think as the fall comes and as we see

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Speaker 1: more school board meetings, that you are going to see

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Speaker 1: that energy kind of reop once again. But look, it's

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Speaker 1: going to take a lot of work on the conservative

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Speaker 1: side to make sure that moms are still aware of that,

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Speaker 1: because look, there's a lot of propaganda, especially I like

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Speaker 1: And so it's going to take a lot of effort

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Speaker 1: to reach those moms and to educate and inform those

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Speaker 1: why it matters. I think it's possible, but it's going

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Speaker 1: to take a lot of efforts. Ali, we agree suburban

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Speaker 1: on again sometime soon. Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks so much.

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