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Speaker 1: But what happened next made me hate her even more.

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Speaker 1: I twenty eight female, have an older sister, Angela, thirty female.

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Speaker 2: Oh Angela, and I never liked her.

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Speaker 1: She always had to compete with me, but never in

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Speaker 2: Our entire life.

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Speaker 1: She always seemed to be resentful of my existence, as

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Speaker 1: the spotlight couldn't perpetually shine on her, so she had

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Speaker 1: to step on everything I enjoyed well. Sam For example,

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Speaker 1: if I learned piano, she learned piano. If I excelled

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Speaker 1: If I told my mom I had a crush, Angela

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Speaker 1: would be dating that boy in a week.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like, your sister is just better at things than you.

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Speaker 1: I would always tell my parents when she did this,

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Speaker 1: but I was disregarded because you weren't as good. My

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Speaker 1: gate keep what she likes. There was also more praise

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Speaker 1: My parents would miswork to attend her recitals, going to

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Speaker 1: every single one because the world would stop if they

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Speaker 1: missed it. However, I remember maybe two of mine they've

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Speaker 2: Yo, But like, what would you rather listen to chopsticks

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Speaker 2: That's got you suck poor Opie right here. So she

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Speaker 2: does not deserve, but Angela reveled in this. She would

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Speaker 2: make comments under her breath around our parents. Get this,

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Speaker 2: whenever our parents went around, she tell me how much

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Speaker 2: I would always come second to her. Ah.

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Speaker 1: She also physically bullied me in school. Angela purposely tripped

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Speaker 2: Why just insane, right, don't punch down like that?

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Speaker 1: Just when I thought we were out, you bring me

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Speaker 1: back in the school tried to get involved multiple times,

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Speaker 1: single time. My parents repeatedly told administration that this was

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Speaker 1: a family matter and we were just bickering like normal sisters,

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh o, FIE's sisters. Kind of a dick, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a big time big dick. She was never once reprimanded

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Speaker 2: by either parent. I would often get in trouble as

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Speaker 2: Angela would start crying, saying that she was the one

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Speaker 2: being targeted by the school, when I had been the

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Speaker 2: one antagonizing her. What She's literally flipping back all the

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Speaker 2: things she does and it's like lying, yeah, saying she's

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Speaker 2: doing it. After one of these occasions, Angela harmed herself

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Speaker 2: to prove to Dad that I was the aggressor. Yikes,

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Speaker 2: Oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, how can you be such a terrible person?

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Speaker 2: Dude? She really sucks.

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Speaker 1: I became a pariah due to Angela's malicious rumors about me,

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Speaker 1: so it was difficult to make friends. I resorted to

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Speaker 1: only befriending people in other districts. Angela eventually made sure

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Speaker 1: telling all of my friends about how I was favored

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Speaker 1: She is not letting her sister live. It is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 2: We're getting a one sided story here. I wonder what

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Speaker 2: her version of things.

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Speaker 1: Are Angela seems like a fire shirt, but maybe there

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Speaker 1: was more kind of like that, like one upping than

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Speaker 2: Story, like maybe they're both doing the same thing to

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Speaker 1: I would quit as a parent. I'd be like I resigned,

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Speaker 1: Like that would be too insane of a childhood scenario

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Speaker 2: That like a huge mistake just using MySpace. Come on,

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Speaker 2: use it Facebook at least or Snapchat. Don't be a dinosaur.

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Speaker 2: Later on, she.

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Speaker 1: Told one of the boys I liked that those were

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Speaker 2: What is wrong? All right? With this human? This girl terrible?

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Speaker 2: But damn is she like she knows how to play

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Speaker 1: She is the freaking Michael Jordan of just like manipulation,

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Speaker 2: Here She's ready to run a John dude, her get

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Speaker 1: The day of my high school graduation, my mom sat

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Speaker 1: horrid abuse that she had suffered at my hands and

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Speaker 1: I was no longer welcome in their home. What After

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I met my now husband shortly after this, and we

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Speaker 2: I informed my parents when I had my.

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Speaker 2: Wow, dude, this suck. Do they know, Like, did she

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Speaker 1: I can imagine a scenario where she's so exhausted from

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Speaker 2: It just sounds like that her sister is like super

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Speaker 1: the snake nostrils and everything. From what I know, Angela

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Speaker 2: It's like, like, you know, like when someone's so terrible

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Speaker 2: So like you just don't think, but what, like what

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Speaker 2: has this person experienced where she feels like this, Like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's literally she's just like born associate

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Speaker 1: the mental the neurons are synapson in the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: But after years of silence, I received a text at

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked in a while, and I surely miss

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Speaker 2: I love you. Get the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I'm glad my sister's suffering.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that she doesn't get to be a mother.

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Speaker 1: If she tormented me for years, what would she do

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Speaker 1: angry at my parents for expecting me to have any

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Speaker 2: Dude, so sad.

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Speaker 1: I feel some sort of guilt, but I refuse to

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Speaker 2: What a doozy? I mean, I don't think Op's awful

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Speaker 1: You you know, we can debate all day long on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Opie should like maybe say like

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Speaker 2: Like if it's all this MySpace stuff and like stealing

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to exhaust myself anymore.

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Speaker 2: like Opie's made the choice to just distance herself from yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's true. And you know what's a great choice for

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Speaker 2: Go to our slash okop show and submit a story.

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Speaker 1: That's right, which the great, crazy, craziest thing you got.

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Speaker 2: We want to read it that we do. Okayop, this

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Speaker 2: is Okayop. I'm Samuel Donner and I'm John Fry, and John,

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Speaker 2: please tell me your tales that you do so well.

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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for calling out my kid's

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Speaker 2: Oh god, when you got surrogates and husbands and wives

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Speaker 1: I, twenty nine female, dated a guy, Joe thirty mail

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Speaker 2: Turn off with the banks, Start off with the bank today,

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Right before we broke up, I found out I was

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Speaker 2: How how are you ecstatic?

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Speaker 1: Turns out his girlfriend had fertility issues and would likely

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Speaker 2: Bro, this is weird y, bro.

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Speaker 1: Getting back together was out of a question for both

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Speaker 1: of us, so he is currently still with that girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Joe was not allowed at the initial appointment because of

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Speaker 1: Trouble According to Joe, when he told Tim, she had

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Speaker 1: a mental breakdown about her own infertility and she wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to me. I met them at their house

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Speaker 1: and Kim started to say that she wanted to be

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Speaker 1: involved in my pregnancy because she would evently be the

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Speaker 2: Thing is I don't know what's normal in this situation

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Speaker 2: because it's weird. Yeah, it's very strange.

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Speaker 1: She started telling me that I needed to do in

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Speaker 1: at home birth, that I needed to formula feed so

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Speaker 1: they could have the baby half of the week, and

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Speaker 1: that she wanted one.

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Speaker 2: Boy and one girl. Bro that's not even in her

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Speaker 2: biologically possible. But how do you think you have ownership

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Speaker 2: over this woman that you don't even really know me.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, uh, you're telling me how I'm giving birth? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is my baby.

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Speaker 1: Kim wanted to kids to call her mama, since they

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Speaker 1: would be calling me mommy.

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Speaker 2: The audacity for the audacity. Bro Op wasn't having it.

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Speaker 1: I shut her down and I said I would make

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Speaker 1: the best choices for my children and my body and left.

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Speaker 1: I think the craziest thing is at home births because

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Speaker 1: it's like I am pushing twins out of this thing.

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Speaker 1: I am getting the medical attention that I want for that,

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Speaker 1: not one ny you want progressive. Kim continued to be

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Speaker 1: overbearing and texting me every single day about my eating habits,

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Speaker 1: her take a maternity leave. You not have it a

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Speaker 1: B because you're not freaking pregnant.

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Speaker 2: You you fool.

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Speaker 1: At the virtual genetics counseling appointment, she attended instead of

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Speaker 1: Joe and took over the whole meeting, trying to talk

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Speaker 1: about her family history, which wasn't relevant. You're not related,

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Speaker 1: You're not related. This is all irrelevant information, you freaking idiots.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen that episode of

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Speaker 2: the Office where like Michael taking care of Jan's baby

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Speaker 2: it's not even his, Like this is that scenario.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, now this baby will be related to Michael through.

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Speaker 2: Collusion.

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Speaker 1: When it came time for my twenty week Level two scan,

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Speaker 1: they allowed me one guest and Joe suggested that I

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Speaker 1: take Kim and stead of him, which I refused to do.

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Speaker 2: Also, why is Joe so absent from this process? Like

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Speaker 2: he was so excited at again initially, but now I

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Speaker 2: can't even.

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Speaker 1: Show up this is actually his child that.

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Speaker 2: The family history is actually important as actually relevant.

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Speaker 1: Joe did end up coming and he found out the gender.

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Speaker 1: Because I wanted to keep it a surprise for me

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Speaker 1: so we could throw a gender reveal party, I put

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Speaker 1: a pregnancy announcement on my social media, and then we

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Speaker 1: put up an announcement saying that we are expecting twins

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Speaker 1: the non traditional way, and how blessed she.

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Speaker 2: Was on traditional. Oh you mean birth from your boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your boyfriend's like freaking traditional. I was irritated,

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Speaker 1: but I kept my mouth shut. Then she threw a

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Speaker 1: which I wasn't even invited, and Opee wanted that to

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Speaker 1: be a surprise for her for her child, who she's

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Speaker 1: carrying in her stomach.

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Speaker 2: Get worked up?

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Speaker 1: What is the She also announced that she'd be having

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Speaker 1: a baby shower.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, I commented on her baby. Dude,

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Speaker 2: we're just getting worn down. It's not your baby. But

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Speaker 2: it's not your baby. That's not your baby.

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Speaker 1: I commented on her posts and told her to stop

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Speaker 1: treating me like a surrogate and the kids weren't hers,

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Speaker 1: and that Joe didn't have any claim or custody of

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Speaker 1: the kids until they are born. I then called Joe

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Speaker 1: and reiterated all of this and stated that I would

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Speaker 1: not be seeing either of them until we went to

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Speaker 1: family court, and that my mother would be my birthing partner.

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Speaker 1: He and Kim and some of her friends and family

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Speaker 1: are saying that I'm the a hole, and her mother

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Speaker 1: even called that I insisted and I give her one

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Speaker 1: of my babies. Like this isn't the parent trap.

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Speaker 2: Kim's mom wants oh Pe to give away one of

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Speaker 2: her children to this freaking delusional person that I guess

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Speaker 2: wants a child so bad. So like making up this fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like hey, we can bamboozle one of the kids

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Speaker 1: into thinking that she he's from Kim.

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Speaker 2: So am I the ahole? No? No, I think you're

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Speaker 2: the ahole. It's your kids, bro, it's your the the

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Speaker 2: the baby daddy's kids. And this freaking girlfriend, this Kim

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Speaker 2: over here, this Kim has this Kimar. She has no

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Speaker 2: claim over these children. And like treating her like a surrogate.

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Speaker 1: That's that's no bueno, even worse than a surrogate, because

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Speaker 1: the surrogate is like I am intentionally choosing to have

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Speaker 1: your child is you are get paid, they're getting paid,

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Speaker 1: Like this is like worse than that because it's like, listen,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a surrogate.

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Speaker 2: I'm me.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a baby that's not yours, So get the

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Speaker 1: f out of my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, this is uh freaking nuts, but like you

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