1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: I'll be back another episode of Club five twenty podcasts. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm the host. My name is DJ Right. Well, special 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: guests in the building. To my left, we gonna introduce 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: my man's last to my far left. My dog should 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: be here out the pear least. How you what? 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: What's having? The nationalists? Get to it? God, damn it. 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: I see you upgraded the forces. You know what I'm saying. 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Jennis, have you ever seen 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: the call? You know I'm say they're rocking the Black 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: forces with the white laces out there? 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: No, I mean black forces mean that you you about 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: serious business? Damn damn. Somebody about to get got you 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: a high fashion again and here we will tap in 15 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: after the pole. Bro. I got fun with him though, 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, easy, just can you just have to shout 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: to the poll the all black so on too, so 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: you know you know what a shout easy, it's a 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: way they back. Yeah, they're back at all. We got 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: to my right, young young team. 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: I ain't got the Black Forces over, but I have 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: to beat them up. 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: He's mother. What's these called black cat force? Yeah? You 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: might not rob a nigga, but you might stab a 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: nigga know you know what I'm saying. But man, it's 26 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: good man. 27 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: We got we got legendary, we got an a legend, 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: a real legend class all wait, whop legend. 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: A lot of y'all getting paid because of this man 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: right here. B Jennings, appreciate you putting up the five twenty. 31 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: My dog Man show. Bro. 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: Oh y'all, thank you that show man. Like we gotta 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: start off the episode the right way. We got to 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: ask you a tough question. You know what I'm saying. 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: You came in the league, get super active. You know 36 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We know what you did. Who is 37 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: the first person that you guarded in the league? Was 38 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: just like, oh, this shit crazy. I know you was 39 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: a pro already when you got to the league. Who 40 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: was that first match show? 41 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: You? 42 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Was just like, oh shit, I got deal with this 43 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: shit every night. Uh. I would have to say Chauncey Phillips. 44 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I think it was like my third game man, and 45 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: I gave him thirty twenty nine. Oh. But at the 46 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: same time, I just knew. I was like, okay, like 47 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: this is what the league's about. Like posting me off 48 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. I have to get 49 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: stronger everything. But Chauncey Phillips was like my wake up 50 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: call to like all right, like all right, like this 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: is what it's gonna be. 52 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Like Nah fuck that How does a wake up call 53 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: you had thirty two or nine? 54 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: Ship, I don't be like this easy. I mean because 55 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: like I mean like I'm a rookie, so I'm a fan. 56 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: So it's like I'm going to get MVP like the 57 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: finals and you know, NBA champion and be able to 58 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: be like with him and Kenyon, Martin Mellow and j 59 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: are out there in thirty two nine, it's like, oh, Ship, 60 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: like you know, like it was it was a hype moment, 61 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: but it also was like a moment of like okay, 62 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: like all right, like this was gonna be about Like 63 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: so who made you switch your bag up? Though? When 64 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: you end up against them? Who made me switch my 65 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: bag up? 66 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 67 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: Like who was that crazy back and forth? Duor I 68 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: know Chauncey made you think about the game, But who 69 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: was that when you first went up against and it 70 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: was like, all right, I'm at this nigga here we're 71 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: going crazy at each other? 72 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: Uh in the league? 73 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jarren Williams, you will that crossover d Will yeah 74 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 5: in Utah, the double snatch, yeah, the double and then 75 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: like once I matched up with like I had a 76 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 5: bunch of great games against d Will, Like you know 77 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 78 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: So I just felt like and he was one of 79 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: the top guards, so you know it was him a 80 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: CP three. So those two and being able to match 81 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: up with d Will, it was like it was like 82 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like I'm nice, Like you 83 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I can compete because like he 84 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: was one of the top guards. 85 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: You a mixtape legend, got one of the coldest basketball 86 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: mix types of all time. Austin Rivers was talking about 87 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: it recently about the mixtape situation. Obviously we know where 88 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: you staying in that who would you say besides you 89 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: was so man. The people like damn, he got a 90 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: crazy mixtape, a kill Car stopper. The fact that when 91 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: he played he stopped crying in Baltimore says a lot 92 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: about him because they do the wire out there, like 93 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: you know, so I don't think a lot of people 94 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: give a kill Cart his love. But I've seen that 95 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: that young and and the type of hype and the 96 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: type of people that come in Baltimore and like stop 97 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: everything they doing just to see him. 98 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: That's that's different, Like that's just different to me. I 99 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: remember him playing against Mooka. 100 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: When that that was that was dope. I told him 101 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: was kind of low key scared to guard him a 102 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: little bit. He started doing all that ship. I seen 103 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: mook stand up, like man, going with that ship now. 104 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: But you know who had another crazy mixtape. Dude named 105 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: Trey Jefferson. Oh, Trey Jefferson bro his mixtape crazy, I 106 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: Ain't Gonna lie you Gotta Fire mixed. 107 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: Tape Tray Jefferson, John Wall, John Wah, you know John 108 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Washing School the person I am, Yeah, John Wall, I 109 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: mean yeah, man, I mean you know that was just 110 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: the beginning of it. You know, even d Rose. You 111 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: know you look at the roll ship like it's crazy. 112 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Treik Evans, but you know that's you know, that's one 113 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: of my goal to a class. You know, if people 114 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: don't say I'm the best player in the A class, 115 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: I gotta go with Errey Evans. You know, damn any day, 116 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Like Terry Evans was like, did you have any of 117 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you battles? Did we play against each other? You know, 118 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: we played against against each other high school against o'kill 119 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: and he, man, he crossed No One Smith so bad 120 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: and that was my god, No God, but god, damn 121 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: he hit No One with something crazy. But no, man, 122 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: he was just like that, you know, that that big guard, 123 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Like he was one of the first big guards that 124 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: we've seen. Like you know how guards now are like 125 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: six four sixty five, Like he was that first big 126 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: guard that you've seen. And that's why he went so 127 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: high in the draft too, because everybody was under six 128 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: foot and he was like six three six four. 129 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: The product type yeah of what today is absolutely so man, 130 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: we got to take it back in high school. That 131 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it started you off being a legend. You 132 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: go from Cali to the East coast. Yeah obviously you 133 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: know saying how you got there, But how was that 134 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: making that decision to go to Okill leaving comfort zone 135 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: young kid growing into a man taking basketball? It is 136 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: like your real job. Now, how was that decision? And 137 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: like how was that going out there? Because we talked 138 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: to everybody, like we talked to Josh Smith going out 139 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: there were like damn, o'k Hill said, like y'all was 140 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: doing a bid out there. 141 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean to me, I just wanted more in life. 142 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: Like my situation at home wasn't great. Grew up in 143 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: a sycamparent mother home. You know, my dad passed when 144 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: I was eight, so at eleven, I had to become 145 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: the man of the house. Like you know, basketball became 146 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: a job and it was the you know, it was 147 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: paying rent and things like that. So, you know, oak 148 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: Hill was just a situation where I wanted to grow 149 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: and you know, do things for myself, like you know, 150 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: ok Kill. I had to wash my own clothes, I 151 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: had to go to school, wake up and you know, 152 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: clean my room and just be a man, like you 153 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, grow up. So it was definitely 154 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: one of the best experience I've had in my life. 155 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: And you know, that was one of the reasons why 156 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't mind taking challenges and taking risk in life 157 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: because of that move to oak Kill. I think we 158 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: were just talking about it before on the part, but 159 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was between me and Eddie Reels m 160 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: if y'all know who. Eddie Reels is lefty from Miami, 161 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: and you know we were supposed to, Uh, Steve Smith 162 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: had to choose between me and him, and we're both lefties. 163 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: But of course I got the nod because you know, 164 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: my man Marcus Williams and his dad Kelly Williams, they 165 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, they looked out for me, and of course 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: he made the best decision. Definitely respect to Eddie, but 167 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: we know what this I busted, Eddie asked, but he's facts. 168 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: I played against Eddie Riyolson when he went to Miami, 169 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: and yeah, they made a good decision. 170 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: But no, no disrespect though. You did what you had 171 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: to do. 172 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: But I was wondering, like I knew you for it now. 173 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: I was a fan of your game since you was 174 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: in high school. You were younger than me, but I 175 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: used to watch your game. So you played for so 176 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: Cal out of California. Yeah, you had a squad. I 177 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: remember the first time I seen y'all played with you, 178 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: Chase Buddinger, I think Taylor King and Taj Gibson and 179 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: y'all went up against Indy Heat, who had Greg Olden, 180 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: Mike Conley, ay Kwan Cook, Aaron Pole, Eric Gordy and 181 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: y'all had a duel and that was the first time 182 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: I seen like somebody really go at Mike like you 183 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't like you wouldn't. 184 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Like ship and they like, yeah, he younger, too younger 185 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: than them. I was like tenth grade. Yeah, I'm like, man, 186 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: who is this little motherfucker? 187 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, I ain't no hater, but I'm like, 188 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, people like, nah, he gonna beat the trip. 189 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: They can't funk with Mike. I'm like, then, me fucking 190 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: with Mike, best guard in the country. Yeah yeah, yeah, 191 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: Like what was that like, man, Like competing two grades up? 192 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I guess you was a I mean I always loved 193 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: the challenge, man. So you know, like I said before, 194 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: like you know my situations in life, so basketball was 195 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: like everything that's all I knew. So you know, I 196 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: had to work ten times harder. You know, I'm only 197 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: six to one, and you know, us as little guards, 198 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: we gotta, you know, put in the extra extra time. 199 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: So just being able to, you know, be at that 200 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: age and be in advance and you know, be out 201 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: there with Greg Golden, Eric Gordon, Greg Golden, Eric Gordon, 202 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: you know the day Kwon Cook, Mike Conley, Like, taking 203 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: on those challenges early just helped me help my game. 204 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: So when I played against my class I was looking 205 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: at them. It was like they was like, like you 206 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: like you light because because I never ducked the smoke 207 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: since abc D camp, since you know, you've been a 208 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: b CD camp the big time everything. Like so you 209 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: if you see me at that, that means you know 210 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't ducking smoke. Now you will have duck enough smoke. 211 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: That's why when you was talking about Gills Arenas, like, 212 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I didn't get to see 213 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: them in high school. I knew Whean mm'sott buckets high school. 214 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: I seen him at McDonald's and all that ship. But 215 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I've seen this nigga. He was in 216 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: tenth grade, tring. 217 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: To hold my own. He was out there better niggas too. Yeah, 218 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: played against the top like that's you know, I'll be 219 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: on you know, I'll be keeping it humble with you 220 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: had a did you play against o J Mayo to time? 221 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: My nigga, Keenan Ellis was on that squad. 222 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: You've been playing niggas like in high school and on 223 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: AU That's what I'm saying. Niggas that came all the 224 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: way from Ohio out there to Domingas the folk with y'all. 225 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: So you've been doing it for a long time, bro, Yeah, 226 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Oja he killed us. Yeah, I was different, 227 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: but it's just like you know, that's the that's the 228 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: that's why I love the game of basketball, like I love, like, 229 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, the challenge. Like it's like I don't I 230 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: don't really fuck with people in basketball that that never 231 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: took up on the challenge. Like you know, if you're 232 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: not in those sayings, you don't like being in that 233 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: hostile environment, then it's like it's not for you, like 234 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: because this is what it's about, Like it's everything is 235 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: hostile's competition. So it's like you duck and smoke. It's like, 236 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, like watch out moving around. I got a question, though, 237 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: what's your best AU matchup? You think my best AU matchup? Yep, 238 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: I think my best my best AU game. And it 239 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with like scoring. It has to 240 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: do with locking up Eric Gordon in the second half 241 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: of the championship game in a big time Eric Gordon 242 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: had forty points on this street him and Derrick Rose. 243 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Eric Gordon was coming down killing I'm talking about he 244 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: was killing us right halftime. I said, I got him. 245 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: I got him, like I got y'all do what y'all do? 246 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: I got him and I held him to like maybe 247 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: ten sixteen points. I mean, you know he's so at forty. 248 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: But it was just like like that moment of just 249 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: like you know, being a defender and having to you know, 250 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: like take a you know, take a step down and 251 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: just like you know, like like defend somebody. So you know, 252 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: that was like one of my big, biggest like a 253 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: you moments to me. I was at that game. 254 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: They beat us in the final four mean streets did 255 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: Eric Gore had a dunk that was on the internet. 256 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: He dunk one of my teammates shot at the time home. Yeah, 257 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: he dunked on Tommy so bad. Everybody ran on the court. 258 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: Brother got ejected and everybody started blowing us and free man, 259 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: he got punched on. You gotta pushed it. I got 260 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: crossed the half court. My fuck, but you made that happen. 261 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn fun Temmy. But they started booing 262 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: us and I watched y'all game and Eric is going 263 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: crazy crazy. I'm like, Yo, this nigga is the best player. 264 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: He from here. 265 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: So I'm like, damn, Eric really is good. Yeah, who's 266 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: the best player ever seen? 267 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Not Indiana? Eric in high school. Eric was going in 268 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: high school when he did the Jordan Kids bro ESPUs legendarybody. 269 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: It was crazy. 270 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: But then to see y'all keep going at it, I'm like, 271 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: Eric was killing so much, and then the second half, 272 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: like you said, you started competing against him. I'm watching 273 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: the game differently because I'm a fan of the game. 274 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, Damn, Eric can't really get by him, Like, Damn, 275 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: Eric really ain't killing no more, Like damn the fuck 276 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: this little nigga killing, Like that's the same nigga from 277 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: last year. 278 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm noticing. 279 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, this little motherfucker gonna be cold because I'm 280 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: older than him, So I'm baking, like yo, he's a 281 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: little next thing. You know it's him, Bro, Yeah, I 282 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. That little fro little shirt was big as. 283 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: Hell, off and ship the big guy's. White teachers used 284 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: to wear a job brother like this gonna be nice. 285 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: Had the hardball uniforms. Y'all was tugging man what Yeah, 286 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: we were. I mean, Sonny had it lit for shout 287 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: out to Sunny pakrola legend. You know when he got 288 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: to Rebok. You know we was, you know, we had to. 289 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: We was wearing ice creams a st Carters uh Iver, 290 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: since I mean, I don't know what shoes y'all have. 291 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: No we get that. You know that ship you was 292 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the first thing I am. Let me tell you about 293 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: these niggas A. B. C. D. Kim Man. 294 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: It's him Thomas, Like I'm nobody knows. I get invited 295 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: by this camp by coach kind of got me in, Nigga. 296 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 3: I'm in the back of the line, way for my 297 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: jersey and shoes. Him and I t come out the 298 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: back two boxes of shoes, jersey, sweatshirts, all. 299 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Type of ship. 300 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, everybody get that ship. I get up 301 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: to the line of motherfucker's hand me my shoes. I 302 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: ain't even in a box. They hand me my two 303 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: like this, like you go. That's what I knew. Those 304 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: niggas was different. Bro, What was your jersey? Like two 305 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: fifty s like some real whatever like we was talking 306 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: about it earlier. 307 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Nigga, the real Hoopers played the second and the fourth. Yeah, 308 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I played the first and the third. 309 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: So but I'm killing I'm thinking I'm fucking niggas up 310 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: to a nigga. 311 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: Corey Fisher I played. He played the first quarter. 312 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter, I had a good game against 313 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: him in the first, a good quarter against him. And 314 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: then the nigga told me in the middle of the game, like, nigga, 315 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: you playing in the third like you talking about I 316 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: get to look it. I'm like all the good niggas, 317 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: all the good niggas on the bit. 318 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: I was like, damn it. Thought he was a real starter, 319 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: thought I was one nigga. They started me and everything 320 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: was called though he was cold New York behind him, man, 321 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: everybody nigga came, Bro. 322 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: They started yelling for the best matchup at that time. 323 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: You had a good matchup, but a fire match was 324 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: him and Johnny Flynn. The crowd was just standing up 325 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: the whole game, and I never forget Paul here. 326 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: It was like you better than him, Johnny, and looking back, 327 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: you're better than him. I'll never forget that. 328 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: Bro. 329 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Every CD Chemera was a moment, was crazy. And then 330 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: the one with Lance Stevenson and O J was in 331 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: the eighth grade. In the eighth grade going against an 332 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: old J Mill that was a junior Like, like I 333 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: already tell people, man, Lance Stevenson is one of them ones. 334 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: That's to me, that's just like bro. He was like, Bro, 335 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: he was different slam Bro, like he was he was 336 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: the party, the kid like he was up next ready 337 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: like I know Sebastian Telfairs. And he kept that legacy going. 338 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: That's real fact. 339 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: So shout out to Lance Stevens can a legacy who 340 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: the best? Look at him. I don't know how to pie. 341 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's crazy. 342 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: And on this nast by the way, Bro, you might 343 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: as well have t paint on. I was supposed to 344 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: be going back to keep it going. This is a 345 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: natural part. So this is what natural. That's crazy. But 346 00:15:48,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: like I like my p now. 347 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: But speaking of the legacy, we talk about like California 348 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: where you put yourself as like California Guards. You know 349 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: you got bad, you got guilt, Yah, got so many 350 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: James Harden, where you put yourself. 351 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Well, we're could just say high school. Well okay, we're 352 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: just talking high school. Then we're talking everything. Then I 353 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: have to go with you know, if we're talking everything NBA, 354 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with James and Russ with the Guards 355 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: and then I mean, of course Gil and b D. 356 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: But we're talking just high school out of California. I 357 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: mean I'm number one, Like there's there's no guard in 358 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: California basketball that ever played high school basketball that's better 359 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: than me. That's all just off the fact that, first 360 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: of all, I left Domingus, like who the fuck leaves 361 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: Domingus when it's a powerhouse school to go to Okill. 362 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: So I made a transition that was first of all bold, ignorant, uh, 363 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, hockey type. And I go 364 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: to Okill my first year and win the national championship 365 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: all right, so you know, forty and one, and then 366 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: my senior year, I become nationpent Player of the Year. 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: So I actually actually feel like I took the bullet 368 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: for US West Coast. I mean La Hoopers, you know, 369 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: going to going to the East Coast and having to 370 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: battle all these guards and and you know, take on 371 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: every challenge every night because you know, okay, ain't no game, 372 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: every every game down, like you lose one game, you 373 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: don't win. You ain't in't no state, no no national nothing. 374 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: You're just going there. So I just think my route, 375 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: my route in general in high school was just better 376 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: than anybody's. 377 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: Nah, you got the best route. So I thought about it. 378 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, hell, no, your route is crazy, bro. Yeah, 379 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: I would say y' all the best. 380 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know every guard in California and 381 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: that it's gonna be a great debate for the PIP 382 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: when people getting YouTube comments or whatever. But for me, 383 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: I was gonna say you was the best out of 384 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: high school overall. Like I agree with you, James and Russ. 385 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: They the NBA's careers are amazing, but California got so 386 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: many hoopers. 387 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and then you know, even out of high school, 388 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: like going straight, like like just the beginning of my 389 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: career in the NBA, I was better than a lot 390 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: of things. No, you know what I'm saying, like from 391 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: from from Europe until like you know, my my thing 392 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: is I didn't have to wait. You did, like you know, 393 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: and that's that's just my biggest thing. Like I was 394 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: always a star and I hated you. 395 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: This is real ship nigga everything, and I felt that, 396 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: you know. 397 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: What's crazy, I felt that when we played. I'm like, Jeff, 398 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Jeff fuck with me, Like like like 399 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: what's the nigga? Everything I wanted to do? This nigga 400 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: was doing this. Niggas started as a rookie. Nigga's killing 401 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? Like I just went to 402 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: wait for it. 403 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: I was killing this nigga get to play. I'm gonna 404 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: stand behind Mike Dibbie. But then I never forget that 405 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: nigga that behind the back rep around hit the layup, 406 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: looked at me, said you. 407 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Might want to get in the game. 408 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Niggah ship This old nigga can't guard me. He wasn't 409 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: saying it as like nigga, you can't fuck with me. 410 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: He was saying it like, nigga, get him out the game. 411 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: Show it's young niggas time. 412 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Like, but I was hurt. 413 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to It's like Josh Smith being asked he is. 414 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: He was like, damn, h I know you want to play. 415 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: You want to play for sure? John, you know you 416 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: think you hum, yeah, you don't want to play. 417 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: I was like, damn, but nah, you was cold, and 418 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: I was like I was hating because you was playing, 419 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: but I always respected you, Like no, this nigga is good, 420 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: and I knew when it was time to play, you like, 421 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: it's nigga liable to get fifty, So let me try 422 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: to go at him first because I know this nigga 423 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: about to get his ship off. Nigga like he gonna 424 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: go at you. So if we try to like at 425 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: least try to give him some foul trouble or something 426 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: because he getting his fifty or twenty five thirty. I 427 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: was like, damn, and I still thank you to this 428 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: day that you want to leave Milwaukee because he the 429 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: reason I got some money. 430 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I say, yeah, you can't do no wrong. 431 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: You can't do because they talk about it. They offered me, 432 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: and then I was like and I had to go 433 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: because they wanted me to go meet Bud. I'm like, 434 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm not finna go go to Atlanta and meet him, 435 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Like you know, just young me, 436 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: you know young like you know, we ain't and then 437 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: and then they offered you. And then that's when I 438 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: went to Detroit. Yeah, that's what I was like, because 439 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: they want Atlanta wanted me, and I was like, I'm 440 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: ain't going to Atlanta, Like I just wasn't working with it. 441 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I appreciate this snake for the rest 442 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: of my life. 443 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm not starting back. 444 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: I was like, he's not signing bag. 445 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 3: I'm sitting at the crib because Atlanta offered me like 446 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: four year twenty four and they just gave Kyle Korver 447 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: like four year twenty eight. 448 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, y'all fucking kidding me. 449 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: I'm like walking, yeah, y'all playing for real, bro. And 450 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: then he was like, I don't know what they offered you, 451 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: but you turned it down. I'm like, damn, Like I 452 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: thought you was gonna get Like everybody was like, I'm like, 453 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: Jenny's getting that like Stephan tomorrow, I gonna get the same. 454 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: And you left, and I'm like, damn. They called me said, 455 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: I love this nigg the rest of my life. 456 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: I need this bad now. But what's crazy is, you know, 457 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: like going back to that situation, it's like, you know, 458 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: that's the reason why I left my agent, Bill Duffie, 459 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: because he didn't tell me that they had Milwaukee had 460 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: offered me. Milwaukee had Milwaukee So so the beginning of 461 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: that year, right before that year, Milwaukee had offered me 462 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: forty for four right, and my agent didn't tell me. 463 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: So so what happened was and my agent didn't tell me, 464 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: and then the GM Jim at the time, what's my god? 465 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: He told John Hammond, Right, John Hemmant, he told uh, 466 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: he told my unarmed rap. He was like, man, can 467 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: you believe this kid didn't take forty for four. I'm like, 468 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: and I had no idea that they had offered me, 469 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: so then come so then come back. My agent was 470 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, uh he was like, yeah, I 471 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: don't think forty for four is it, like, you know, 472 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: we should go for the max max max. So my 473 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: mom and him was pushing the max, and you know, 474 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: it kind of fucked my situation, my relationship with my 475 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: mom too, ad agent, because it was like, well, y'all 476 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: doing shit behind my back and I don't even know. 477 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: So I didn't sign going into I'm playing the game 478 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: and it was too late to sign, so I had 479 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: to play that whole year in Milwaukee without being uh 480 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, you know, without I wanted to resign. So 481 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: that's why the situation looked so bad when I left, 482 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, I wanted to sign, but it 483 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: was too late for me to sign because I didn't 484 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: know they offered me. 485 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: So I had got fucked OVERMN. So yeah, that was 486 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: my big that they helped me. 487 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: And I mean I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, 488 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: but but you know that that's just yeah, that was 489 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: just like the code of the game, like you know, 490 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: and I was speaking to the rising stars of the 491 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: day kids about like life and you know, situations and 492 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: the people that surround you. You know, you gotta you know, 493 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: you gotta uh you know, watch yous around you. You know, 494 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: no matter if it's your mom, it's your dad, is 495 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: your agent, anybody like you gotta make sure they're really 496 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: there for you and care for you. And you know, younger, 497 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: my younger career didn't really have good people around me. 498 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying my agent wasn't good or people. 499 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: It's just things that they didn't tell me. Like I 500 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: like to be be honest with me, like I'm gonna 501 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: take it how it is. But when you don't tell me, 502 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: then you know, then I gotta act because you know 503 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, then I gotta act out. 504 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: There was no reason for you to leave Milwaukee because 505 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: you was like, yeah, yeah, but they offered me. 506 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, they offered me. That's why I was confused. 507 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: I was like, damn. I was like, fuck it offer 508 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: she I saw that so fast. He said, what curse 509 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: of great? But nah, but when you did that, you 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: went to Detroit. 511 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: And we're gonna get back to you being in Milwaukee 512 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 3: and how he was killing because I know you went 513 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 3: to Detroit after that, but you was killing Detroit too. 514 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: But I want us to go back to Milwaukee, mama. 515 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: Fact I won't go even further back, like you not 516 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: even going to college, Like what made you take that route? 517 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 3: Like fucking You're supposed to go to Arizona and you're like, nah, 518 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: well I couldn't pass that, sat. It's a lot of 519 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: like that crazy They don't gotta do that, shi it 520 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: no more. 521 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's probably because of you. Ship come from you. 522 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: Brandon is demnit the soldier boy. But no, like I mean, 523 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't that because pass it. They flagged my my 524 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: score twice. So I had took it in the summertime, right, 525 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: so so I'm out of school. I had to take 526 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: it again, and I took it and then they flagged it. Right, 527 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: So I'm in the summer and I'm just like trying 528 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: to figure out my life. Like you know, I'm eighteen, 529 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: number one player in the country, and I don't have 530 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: nowhere to go, damn, Like I have nowhere, I can't 531 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: I can't go to summer school at Arizona. Luke Olson 532 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: just retired. Jeral Bay jeral Bayles said that he's leaving. 533 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know what the hell I'm finna do, right, So, 534 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just sitting I'm sitting in the car 535 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: in traffic with my mom broke. We broke, like poor 536 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, you know, And Sonny Bacarel 537 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: goes on the phone and he's like, yoa, I don't 538 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: understand why kids just don't sit out for a year, 539 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: train or go overseas. So I'm just like, well, damn, 540 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: like you know, shait go over seas, Like you know, 541 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can play, you know. You know, 542 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: I'll start going to YouTube looking at that video with 543 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: him fighting and like I don't know what different. I'm like, 544 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, like you niggas might want 545 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: to take off, like you know. So now I asked 546 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: my coach Steve Smith. I was like, yo, do you 547 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: think I can play? He was like, hell, yeah, you 548 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: can play over there, Like this is gonna be good 549 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: for you easy. So he was. He was one of 550 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: the persons that gave me the confidence. And then I 551 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: called Sonny and you know, for for youngins two going 552 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: out there, Uh, you know that one something in life 553 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to pick up the phone and call 554 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: uh people when you want something in life. So you know, 555 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: I called Sonny. You know he was like hell, yeah, 556 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: let's do this. You know, did my background check and everything, 557 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: and then we went to Vegas in two weeks and 558 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: I got signed. So so this was like, this was 559 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: like all in a two week of span. Like I'm 560 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm in the house stressing out, like in my room, 561 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And you know, I'm just like, bro, 562 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm about to be a failure, Like I'm about to 563 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: be one of them, you know, Lenny Cooks or whatever 564 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: it is like, you know, just those guys and Sonny call, 565 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: make the phone call. Then next thing you know, I signed, 566 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: I signed a contract in Rome, uh for a team 567 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: in room. And then I signed a contract with and Darmer. Well, like, 568 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: what's that like? The level month all in the span 569 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: of three weeks. 570 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: What it's like being that guy? Like we see Steph 571 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: Curry got under Armer. Now yeah he's the big but 572 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: you popped that ship on ere Yeah what was that like? 573 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Because I remember I used to look. 574 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: At your shoes. I was like, man, it's no way 575 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: he liked them. Ship. Yeah, I mean it was different. 576 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, I just felt like my route has always 577 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: been different, always felt like everything has been a challenge 578 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: for a risk. So it was another risk, another challenge 579 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: that I was taking, you know, me tearing my achilles 580 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: of course in the shoes and things like that. You know, 581 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: I just saw West Worldwide West the other day. You know, 582 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: he gave me some advice to the long time ago 583 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: when I had toward my achilles. He was like, you know, 584 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: an armor they owe you, like you know that you 585 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: should be signing a lifetime deal with him just because 586 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: of what you started and what you built. And now 587 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: that I'm working back with him, it's just like, you know, 588 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: everything's been full circle for me. So it's like now 589 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it like ship, I'm in the I'm 590 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: in the moment where I could get a lifetime deal 591 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: with under They do like you know, so it's great, 592 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Like the journey of life has been great for me, 593 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's a blessing. I have a lot 594 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: of gratitude and you know, I can't ask, you know, 595 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I can't thank God. 596 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: You know. 597 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: What's crazy is you sound with under Armer. I went 598 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: with Nike. 599 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, it's getting all this money, right, and 600 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: then I've seen Kimber Kimball coming under army. 601 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I did, hey, agent, you give 602 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: me on under armer. I put them shoes on. 603 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: I said, these niggas got some good ass ankles, because 604 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: these ain't gonna work for tigun work for me. These 605 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: niggas are special. I knew you and Kimba was different. Boy, 606 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: the way y'all was cutting the shit work for me. 607 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: I said, I need some I need something a little starty. 608 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: But I used to like how y'all came with y'all shoes. 609 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: Many had every colorway. 610 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to treat y'all good, So it's it's 611 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: dumblest man. Chryston made a lot of things happened during 612 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: that time. I mean he was with Cray Brand now, 613 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: but Chris Stone was really the force of everything. He 614 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: was like whatever y'all want. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 615 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: It was like whatever we wanted. So we were we 616 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: were basically just creating things like doing the lockout I had. 617 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: You know, Christ made sure that I had an internship job. 618 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: That's how I got into passion because I was in there. 619 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: I was in there creating my own shoes and different things. 620 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: So I was able to see how a business was 621 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be run and everything like making merch and everything. 622 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: So do it right like that eleven. That twenty eleven 623 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: lockout was special and gave us some of the best 624 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: basketball ball time. 625 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: The Lockout program runs with some of the best basketball 626 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: time yours reservice. 627 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: The other day, I had a oh yeah, I did 628 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: a moment in the locker going to John wall. Yeah, 629 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: we had a little moment. 630 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Mine just resurface to Josh Shelby. Oh, y'all had a 631 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: moment and yeah, Josh the fee. Yeah, shout out to 632 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: Josh Shelby. Bro. We adin't fun each other when I 633 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: first song because because it was like, you know, like 634 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: that Hooper moment, you know when you look at somebody 635 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: like look up and down out here. It was like that. 636 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: But nah, sho be more. 637 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: I always wanted to, Like you said, you're pioneered so 638 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: many things of basketball, especially for both of the other 639 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: ways y'all play. If y'all could play in y'all problem 640 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: like in today's NBA, especially ways you can market yourself, 641 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: especially way like with the fashion the way you just 642 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: how you went period, it would be so crazy, Like 643 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: if you would be able to take over like under 644 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: armor handle and then play in the game, like you 645 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: feel like you could just grow your brain even more 646 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: now the way that they encourage players to have their 647 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: own brands now because they kind of discouraged it. 648 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Back then on the low. Yeah, I mean I feel 649 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: like to me, I was ahead of my time, Like 650 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: I came in to the league fucking gumby fucking high 651 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: top fade Louis backpack. But today, I feel like if 652 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: we played today, they would hate us because we wouldn't 653 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: need the NBA, Like you know what I'm saying, Like 654 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: we needed the NBA for marketing. Now you can market yourself, 655 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. We would be on 656 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: a part like you would have your podcast, right, you 657 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: would have other things in life to where you wouldn't 658 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: need like you could just market yourself and the money 659 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: of course, I mean think about I mean now they're 660 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: getting I mean, should we be getting eighty million there? 661 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Like imagine what we would be doing. So today, I 662 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: think they would hate us because we wouldn't because we 663 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: would be like like because we wouldn't need them, like 664 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: like you know, like some of the stuff that we 665 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: needed back then, we wouldn't need the NBA. We could 666 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: just do ourselves. That's real. 667 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 4: Can we speak on that fifty five point game though, 668 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: but do you remember that day from start to finish 669 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee? 670 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: Uh? The thing about fifty five people be forgetting I 671 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't score in the first quarter, so they did a 672 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: shit in three quarters. Yeah shit, So I didn't score 673 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: in the first quarter at all. I went zero for 674 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: five and scouts pulled me out. He was like, you 675 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: ain't ready to play. He's like, you ain't ready to play, 676 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: Like one of the scouts was on me every fucking day, 677 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: broth scout scouts because you know, he helped me, you know, 678 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: especially not having a father figure in my life, like 679 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, your first your first coach, and your first 680 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: you know everything in the league, like you want to 681 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: go well. So like he was that guy that was 682 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: there for me that that I needed to hear humble 683 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: me and also let me know like you're not as 684 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: that you think you like, you know that that that 685 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: type of humbleness that I needed. But man, yeah, he 686 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: took me out the game, like you ain't ready to play. 687 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Come back in there. He was like, hope, you're ready 688 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: to play now, like you know, just always on me. 689 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: But fifty five game. I just remember going to Denny's 690 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: the next morning, went ton after scoring fifty five. Yeah, 691 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean under I'm my budget wasn't like that. 692 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 6: Like Thatckers from the seven went to the next day 693 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 6: and then reading the newspaper with myself and it was 694 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 6: cool though I was I was still young. 695 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't on no fancy. I was nineteen man, 696 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: so you know, I was just like, let's go to Denny's, 697 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: I hop or something like. 698 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: Man, I remember you scoring at fifty five and the 699 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: next day I was at home and I seen you 700 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: do ESPN like you had the ESPN maybe a day 701 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: or two later or day maybe the next day, and 702 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: I just remember watching now I was like, this motherfucker 703 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: really scored fifty five points. Like I was sitting there 704 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: thinking like this nigga gone like he's the one. 705 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Like it was amazing. 706 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, they blew that ship up. And the 707 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: way you went at another rookie was just Steph y'all 708 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: was having a moment. But when you started, I'm like, damn, 709 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: ain't it kind of crazy to see like like you're 710 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: playing against Steph at that time and see where he 711 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: is now. I tell everybody, like, this shit kind of 712 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: real because I didn't see that. 713 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but you know, to be honest, you know, 714 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: it's all about you know, I'm gonna tell you know, 715 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: just for all the youngins, you know, it's all about 716 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the people you have around you. That's a fact. You know. 717 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 1: Steph has you know, he has his wife, he has 718 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: good people. You know, he has you know, he has 719 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: a foundation. I didn't have a foundation. You know. I 720 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out my foundation when I was 721 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: in the league, and it hurt me because instead of 722 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: focusing on basketball, I was focused on foundation and trying 723 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: to make everybody else around me happy when I should 724 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: have been telling everybody no I can relate to. So 725 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: you know that that's why, you know, I feel like 726 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: in basketball, you know, it's not just you know, everybody 727 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: works hard, everybody got the talent, but it's all about 728 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: the people you have around you too. And at the 729 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: beginning of my career, the people that had around me 730 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: that was I was more. If I paid attention and 731 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: knew what was around me, I probably have had a 732 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: better career. Like you know, things would have happened for 733 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: me better. 734 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: Now you, I feel like people don't give you enough 735 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: credit because to me, you were like one of the 736 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: first guards I've seen that was scoring. Like you've always 737 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: been a really good pastor. I watched your game since 738 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: it was high school, so I know you always like 739 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: you was a pastor first, like you used to throw 740 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: hello dimes. But like when I seen you become like 741 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: a scorer, like you were scoring and ship and like 742 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: Nick Vann next on them to always tell me like 743 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: it's about making your other teammates better, I'm like, but 744 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: this little motherfuckering Milwaukee. 745 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: Out there, like I keep talking to me about passing 746 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: the fucking joke and he's fucking killing. But Nick Man 747 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: was a scorer, That's what I'm saying. You ain't watching 748 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: him like killing. 749 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: Luke written that are passing to him like seeing this 750 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: ship and he was like, man, it ain't going that 751 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: he get to do that for his team. And I 752 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: used to be like, man, I feel like you in 753 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: this league right now will be phenomenal like you would be. Ah, 754 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: you already got the fashion of brown, you said the 755 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: gun beyall. You already got the. 756 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: Brand and ship. But like you as a player in 757 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: this league. 758 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 4: Broll you Anthony Edward personal bringing on the court, Bro, you. 759 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: Would have probably averaged twenty eight twenty seven. But you 760 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: got to bike yourself up too though. Bro, Like your 761 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: situation Atlanta was perfect for you. Like you know, you're 762 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: like like you, I mean, you became an All Star. Yeah, 763 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: but I want to shoot that Look. 764 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I came out of high school, I mean college, 765 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: I was a scorer, Like I averaged them at twenty 766 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: points in college. So I'm like, I want to shoot. 767 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: When I got to Atlanta, them nigga said, go to 768 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: the corner. Nigga gives Joe Jamal rightfully, So that great score, phenomenal, 769 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: But that is not. 770 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: What I wanted to do. It was like I don't 771 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: take it on the court. 772 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: You like, all right, I'm gonna play defense and I'm 773 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: gonna run to the corner. But like I used to 774 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: like look at y'all and be like I want to 775 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: do that. Like and but that you earned that ship. 776 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: You kill. 777 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: You did your ship like you had fifty Like niggas 778 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: knew you was one of them, but I was. I 779 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: used to be sitting there like the nigga fifty came. 780 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think the whole situation came out 781 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: of know it because remember I didn't play at all 782 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: the year before in Rome, so I didn't I was 783 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: just more on some like revenge and just like some 784 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: dark like just hostile ship. Like I got the workout 785 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: because I was like because I was so mad because 786 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: first of all, I was getting killed every day. Jay 787 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: billis you know ESPN. They was just like, you know, 788 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: you know who this kid think he is going not 789 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: skipping college, like you know, he he doesn't need an education. 790 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I'm getting the best education overseas. 791 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm learning life, like you know what I'm saying, learning 792 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: the value of life and like what it really you 793 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: know what life really means. So I don't feel like 794 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: I've missed anything out of college besides you know, women 795 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: and partying. And it got it got great, it got 796 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: great letter, you know. But yeah, now, but I mean, 797 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonn let DJ do his thing. 798 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: But I was gonna say about our workouts, like going 799 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 3: into the draft, you was crazy, motherfucker. You was calling 800 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: people out like you ain't care. So I say, everybody 801 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: always get me slack for messing with Ricky Ruby on 802 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: our podcast. I pushed him, I did some shit whatever, 803 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: don't worry about that. I like Ricky, but you called 804 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: him out and was like, Ricky ain't like that. And 805 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: I remember being in that workout. Before the workout came, 806 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 3: I got described the whole thing to everybody that you 807 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: came in with the Louie book bag. I'm from the 808 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: West Side, I knew, I knew nothing about Louis Vaton 809 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 3: and you came walking in and you put the bag down, 810 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: and I never forget Saidamn, you got that Louie. 811 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: Damn I supposed to know what that is. You know 812 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? 813 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: You like, yeah, said something like five hundred. I said, damn, 814 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: got five hundred. I'm thinking five hundred dollars, nigson one 815 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. I'm like, got five unred thousand dollars before 816 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 3: like shit, what the fuck is this nigga? 817 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: Like this nigga not a real person. 818 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 3: So you start talking going around like, bro, you better 819 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: than Ricky, you better than Ricky, You better than Ricky. 820 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling all your niggas is better than Ricky. And 821 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: he pointed at me, damn better than staying in this dres. 822 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: I was going back to school. 823 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 3: I saw the guy he was. I swore to God, 824 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: you better than better. We did the workout, Tyrey Gavins 825 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: had a good workout. Boom, go to another workout in 826 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 3: Milwaukee's when I knew he was getting picked by the Bucks. 827 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: He doing his pick and roll. 828 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: Shit. 829 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: I ain't never seen a picking roll in my life. 830 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: I ain't do that in college. That I so, this 831 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 3: nigga carving us up, making us look stupid. Me and 832 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: Tyree gave we stopped guarding nigga. I looked at that 833 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: gardon nigga, that nigga doing. But I knew he was 834 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: getting picked by the Bucks. I knew you was different 835 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: when you going overseas, having a chance to learn the 836 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 3: game play like that, I. 837 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: Knew you was different. I was like, he gonna be 838 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: good in this league. Yeah, I mean that that year 839 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: in Europe was just me to mature and see what 840 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: a pro is like, see see what it takes to 841 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: be a pro. Right. So I was around Alan Ray 842 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: Andre Hutson. I had a bunch of great you know 843 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: guys that played you know in the league or was 844 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: just from America. So you know, that was just a 845 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: year of me, you know, just learning how to be 846 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: an adult, how to be a pro, you know, show 847 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: up on time and you know, do things the right way. 848 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: So that year was just a year of learning. So 849 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: that's why I always say, like when I'm done, when 850 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: tough crowd blows up and I'm out of here, I'm 851 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: moving back to Italy. Damn yeah. Like I'm moving back 852 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: to Rome because that's where fashion. You know, that's where 853 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: I learned about fashion and you know, just about myself 854 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: in life. So you know, I would love to take 855 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: my family and just live my rom when it's all 856 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: same stuff. So I BJ appreciates you sliding on this man, 857 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: shouts a tough ground, shouts at Gilzarena to check my 858 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: boy out everywhere you see the swag, you see the show. 859 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: Appreciate you sliding on this man. Light Shore, subscribe all 860 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: that good ship will be back next week. Club five 861 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: to twenty. 862 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah,