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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Hello, my Little Peanuts sits me your host

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with me Lance Bass

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Speaker 1: and my lovely co host Michael Dirks and Dirky Durtson

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Speaker 1: right here. Sorry, I thought you were going to say

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Speaker 1: my name? Should Should I wait for you to answer?

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Speaker 1: Or should I introduce you? I don't know what is

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Speaker 1: that rude not to say your name? No? Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: you should say that beautiful voice? Well I would I

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Speaker 1: will acknow dark Chin. Congratulations on your LA Art Show showing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, that's why you're Michael Church and Art.

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Speaker 1: That's all right. A lot of people think my last

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Speaker 1: name is church and Art, Church and Arts, and I'm like, nope,

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Speaker 1: but no. He is a pop artist just like me,

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Speaker 1: but in a different realm Oh god, you're funny. So

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Speaker 1: your LA Art show was a major success. You sold

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Speaker 1: out of everything, which was crazy, and I like the

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Speaker 1: new stuff that you did because you've got into this well,

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Speaker 1: I have a love hate relationship. Very month you found Glitter.

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Speaker 1: I know now. His stuff is amazing. It's pop art,

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Speaker 1: it is it's incredible, and tons of people by your stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean all. You know, big, big celebrities have them

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Speaker 1: in their homes. Yes you're you're, Yes, celebrities seek you out.

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Speaker 1: But you found glitter. I did find glitter, and it's

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Speaker 1: really cool because I like things that sparkle. And when

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Speaker 1: it's on a wall and you put right lighting in it,

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Speaker 1: it is just gorgeous. But it's my paintings are They're

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Speaker 1: not even painting, they're glittering exactly. Well, it's just glitter.

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Speaker 1: I used just glitter through the whole entire now. But

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Speaker 1: you do paint an outline first, No, just literally I

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Speaker 1: draw a pencil, I draw out what I'm gonna do,

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Speaker 1: and then I paint with glue and them poor glitter,

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Speaker 1: and I just everything twice, mixing colors, y'all. He does

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Speaker 1: all this in the kitchen. I don't have a designated area. Okay.

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Speaker 1: This has been the crux of my whole art career. Um,

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Speaker 1: Like they say, glitter is the herpies of the art world,

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Speaker 1: and it is the herpies of our home. Our babies

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Speaker 1: have it all in their head and good, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this get in their eyes. This is gonna cut their eyeballs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's everywhere. It's every little baby sparkle. In fact, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see it on your face right now. You can't

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Speaker 1: it will not go away. Don't try to dull my shine,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So yeah, if you come to our house,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna leave with glitter. And I thought I gotten

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Speaker 1: rid of that with Giggles because Giggles used to wear glitter.

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Speaker 1: First started talking together almost sixteen years ago, seventeen years ago,

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Speaker 1: and she just covers. She would like put body glitter,

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Speaker 1: ont like do the groceries, like you run an errand,

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Speaker 1: and it would just jump on to me. Just it

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Speaker 1: was always on me. They're like, oh, if you've been

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Speaker 1: around Lisa, that's what I'm here for. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: she stopped think goodness, and then you fall into this glitter. Listen,

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Speaker 1: listen art it's it's it's it looks good and we

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Speaker 1: keep doing it. Yeah, it looks really good. It's worth it,

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Speaker 1: especially when you sell out the La R Show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right. We have Brad Faschetti on the show today.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have an Lafoe member on because we

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Speaker 1: went on the Pop two thousand tour together. He's still

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Speaker 1: on the Pop two thousand tour. Um. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: as if you don't know the other two members of

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Speaker 1: the band have passed away, very sad story and and

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Speaker 1: his his tribute to them in the in the concert

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Speaker 1: is just very moving. And I don't see how he

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Speaker 1: does it every night because he comes off that stage

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Speaker 1: just worn out, like just really drained from this. It

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Speaker 1: takes him a moment to kind of get his composure again.

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Speaker 1: And that's every night, I can imagine. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean your whole your whole band is

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Speaker 1: passed away. And then a matter of within a decade too.

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Speaker 1: And Rich was a long time coming anywhe It took

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Speaker 1: him five years and I think he went to remission

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Speaker 1: one time and whatever. But Devin was just felt like

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Speaker 1: it was overnight. I don't even know what kind of

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Speaker 1: cancer it was. I'm going to learn that for the

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Speaker 1: first time. I'm was interested to hear because like I've

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Speaker 1: heard so many stories about Brad from you, but like

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Speaker 1: you're never really sure if it's the right story, Like

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Speaker 1: he started off with lou BroMans Limo drivers. What I

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Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, I believe I'm never really known the

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Speaker 1: true origins. No Brad was there from the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: was you know, there was a lot we've we've lived

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Speaker 1: with us, Oh yeah, you'll you would definitely ruin their

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Speaker 1: street cred. H I'm but I do. Mister rich Rich

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Speaker 1: was such a character. What I'm good, dude. It was

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Speaker 1: so funny, so funny. Um, all right, before we get

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Speaker 1: Brad on the show, what happened this way? Oh you

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Speaker 1: know what we're doing? This is really fun. We what

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Speaker 1: are we doing? We like design? We do we love

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Speaker 1: like we're going through a whole house design because of COVID.

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Speaker 1: We actually ended up loving our house. So we're like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let's redo this, create a place we

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Speaker 1: enjoy to live in um. So we've been doing a

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Speaker 1: note our house. But uh, we're having fun with our

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Speaker 1: club Heart and Rocos because it needs a little jian

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Speaker 1: the club itself, especially Heart. I mean it's news I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, yes, But but the green room, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about with Mary. There's a whole green room

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. Heart has this you know, gorgeous green room.

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Speaker 1: So we have performers come in. That's where we had

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Speaker 1: the tribute concert with actually Boys and everyone. We've had Lizzo,

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Speaker 1: Cardi b Little nas x Um Patras, Sam Smith, everyone

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Speaker 1: And I go in there and like, this bathroom is horrible.

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Speaker 1: It's everything's just not good. So as an artist, like

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Speaker 1: I have to create something that these artists want to

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Speaker 1: bathroom and I'm like why there's like dirt footprints all

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Speaker 1: no one showers in. No one showers in, but it's

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Speaker 1: very dirty inside it's a nasty, disgusting, disgusting, and dressing

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Speaker 1: rooms are disgusting. They just are backstage just just disgusting.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not going to feed that beast anymore. Don't

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Speaker 1: gonna make it nice. I'm gonna make it Who says

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Speaker 1: that make it nice? So we're gonna make it nice.

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Speaker 1: So it's been fun because now we're picking out wallpaper.

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Speaker 1: There's this really what's the wallpaper as Aztech. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: the company we love. Okay, if you go into our house,

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Speaker 1: we kind of went wallpaper crazy. It's a bit psychoic.

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Speaker 1: It's a little psychotics because we did in like different

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Speaker 1: we did three months. We do this the next three months,

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Speaker 1: and then at the end we're like, crap, we've all

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Speaker 1: papered every single wall in our house. True, and we

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Speaker 1: don't really like look at the wallpaper we have. When

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Speaker 1: we picked other wallpaper, we're gonna get being blue. So

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Speaker 1: yea all that kind of the same color, but like

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Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, that's our esthetic. Yeah, it were just

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Speaker 1: we're that crazy house. Let's get to our guests, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because wants to hear us talk. We want to hear

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Speaker 1: from Brad Vashetti, which I'm super excited me too, because again,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know the full story of Allaphoe. I

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Speaker 1: met Brian and Rich the original two when they came

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Speaker 1: only know they were best friends. Yeah, I mean then

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Speaker 1: and for years they were together, as you know. Devon

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Speaker 1: Sync October one, nineteen ninety five. This is her friends.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember how they were friends, but you

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Speaker 1: They totally crashed with us just to get to meet

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Speaker 1: Louke Perroman to see if they would he would sign them,

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Speaker 1: and we were champion. We're like, yes, like sign these guys.

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Speaker 1: They're so fun. Heard them saying that you started career.

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Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent saying that I started Elfo's career. Wow.

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Speaker 1: That is going to be on my tombstone. Wow. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I know that's gonna be a word. So right,

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Speaker 1: all right, id that to Wikipedia? Now? I would hate

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Speaker 1: to read my Wikipedia page. I'm sure it's real true.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that in another show. I'm gonna go through.

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Speaker 1: We should, you know what, We should do that with

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Speaker 1: all the guests because Wikipedia's wrong a lot sometimes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get to Pratt, all right, Turkey, So let's get

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Speaker 1: to it. Brad Faschetti born in New York City, New York.

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Speaker 1: He has a singer, guitarist, actor, best known for being

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Speaker 1: a founding member of the pop hip hop band LFO

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety five. What a good year ninety five?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember what you were doing in ninety five? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How old are you two? I was eight years old?

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Speaker 1: Eight years old? I was eight years old. Oh my goodness. Well.

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Speaker 1: The band hit the scene at nineteen ninety nine with

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Speaker 1: a smash hit Summer Girls, which is Turkey's favorite, from

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Speaker 1: their debut album, self titled album. The band went on

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Speaker 1: hiatus in two thousand and two, and in two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: LFO they regrouped for a reunion tour, and although it

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Speaker 1: the show, mister Brad Fischetti from ELFO. Welcome to Frosted

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Speaker 1: Tips w Man. How are you good, brother? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good. It's good to be able to see you,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna be able to catch up because a

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Speaker 1: lot of things I don't really remember from the Lafo days.

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Speaker 1: My brain is so I don't remember ship anymore. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you on the show because there's

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Speaker 1: so much I don't know about your band, So we're

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Speaker 1: all going to learn together. But let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Mister Bradshetty, you were born in New York City. Where

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Speaker 1: in New York did you grow up? So? I was

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Speaker 1: born in New York City, Ling Hospital in Manhattan and

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Speaker 1: called Mala, which most people think it's not like a

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Speaker 1: real town, right name, But I like it, so, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I grew up like in a very suburban New Jersey

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Speaker 1: M nice. Now, when you were in school, did you

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Speaker 1: know that you wanted to be a performer? Like what

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Speaker 1: was what was a little brad doing? No, a little

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Speaker 1: brad want to be a baseball player? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. And you know, I know a lot of kids,

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Speaker 1: of got an early glimpse to that whole drama that

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00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: you mentioned where you know, you guys were started. You

423
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: guys had the house, Johnny was involved, and it was

424
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: just the whole like you know, And I think back then,

425
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 1: two nuts, like, there was so much like drama that

426
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: was created as opposed to like I guess, you know,

427
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: it's like these days, we're all like, hey, what's up.

428
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: There's plenty of love to go around, but back then

429
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: it didn't seem that way. And so I remember being

430
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: in being in meetings where they like, what do we

431
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: do that? The hand of this and that? But but um,

432
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: and I remember I think it was it might have

433
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: been you guys did some sort of it wasn't like

434
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: a show show, but it was like a filming over

435
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: there that was called a Pleasure Island Pleasure out. Yeah,

436
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: we did it at the Beach Club. That was our Yeah.

437
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: They were putting a big ePK package together and that's why. Yeah,

438
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: yeah that was cool. And then um, you know I remember,

439
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, as far as how like the music started

440
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: for for for from my part for ALFO, you know,

441
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: like I told you I'm down there just working for

442
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: Loot and I'm at his house one day and the

443
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: doorbell rings and it was Rich and Brian, the guy

444
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: who used to be U. The phone. I think Carrie

445
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: Sellers had connected them. Um, they had heard about what

446
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: was doing. I had no idea that we're coming. And

447
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, Lou brings us into the game and remember

448
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: the game room with like C three PO and R

449
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: two D two Star Trek and the laser disc player,

450
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, and he's like, hey, guys, you know you're

451
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: all you're three of you are doing the same kind

452
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: of music. Why don't you just come together as one

453
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: and I'll signing. So we're like, you know, okay, it

454
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: sounds good. And I remember he he had to sit

455
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: down on that couch. You remember the couch that had

456
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: like the laser disc player in front of it. And

457
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: he goes, I'll drank back, and he comes back with

458
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: a guitar, acoustic guitar because you know, Lou was a

459
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: decent guitar player, and he starts playing. He goes, all right, guys,

460
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: three rappers, I want you to sing this one. You know.

461
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: He starts playing La Bamba, and so we're like, we're

462
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: sitting there in the gaming room, la la la, what

463
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: on earth is going on? But that was that was

464
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: shortly after you came down. And I remember, you know,

465
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of experience doing choreography. I

466
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: don't think you did either at the time, and they

467
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: or maybe in Sync was just the other guys were

468
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 1: way more advanced, so they would send you to our

469
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: choreography lessons. I started in that karate student karate studio studio, Yeah,

470
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: and they give us pencils from microphones and it was like,

471
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: you know, but then we you know, we graduated to

472
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: the to the Blimp warehouse and uh, I remember we

473
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: had a chance to go overseas and play a few

474
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: shows backing up Trey D. And I remember coming back

475
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: and being at rehearsaling and and you guys, I think

476
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: you guys were just finishing and I don't know if

477
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: I think it was justin but what you guys were like,

478
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I heard you guys played a show

479
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: and like fans were screaming for you. Well that's coming

480
00:24:52,040 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: up soon for you guys. Man, that was awesome. It

481
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: was such a fun time. I'm glad you got to

482
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: experience the whole. Yeah, the blimp hanger one hundred and

483
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: fifty degree you know, temperature perform. I had no water,

484
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: like we we were tortured. Basically, we were tortured. But

485
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: one thing I remember, yeah, Carrie Seller too. I think

486
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: we have we heard carry on the show before. She

487
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: was she's David Archielletta's manager now. But anyway, she was

488
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 1: probably the first person I met in Orlando. So she

489
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: was at the house when I met the guys. Um.

490
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: She was working with trans Con and kind of I

491
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: don't know what her official job was, but she was

492
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, maybe hurting us. She was

493
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: the cats. Yeah, she was the babysitter. Um. But I

494
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: remember Carrie Seller's told me about Rich and Brian and

495
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: She's like I have these friends, you know, I think

496
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: they're super talented. They want to, you know, come down

497
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: here and meet Lou, and you know, I would love

498
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: them to get signed to trans Con. So they brought

499
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: them to our house that we lived in, and I

500
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: want to say Broun and Rich stayed with us. I

501
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: think they spent the night at our house. Um. And

502
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: we're the ones who told Lou, We're like, lud, you've

503
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: got to listen to these guys. These guys are awesome,

504
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: Like you got to sign these guys, you know, just

505
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: because we love to carry so much, because we didn't

506
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: really even I don't think we even heard them rap yet,

507
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: but we're like, we got to sign these guys. And

508
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: then I guess that's when they went over to Lose

509
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: house and met you y'all saying Obama, I guess he

510
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: was thinking maybe a Spanish hip hop act. Got lots

511
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: of ideas, had lots of ideas, lots of ideas. Um,

512
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: so when did Brian drop out? Because this is this

513
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: is where it gets fuzzy for me, because this is when,

514
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, we did the whole German thing, and then

515
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: we came to America. Y'all started in Germany. Also when

516
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: did Brian fizzle out and when did Devon come into plan? Yeah, so,

517
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: like you guys, you know, we started in Germany and

518
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: you remember the fans in Germany Man they were rabid, right,

519
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: you didn't have to even you didn't you know, in

520
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: our case, they didn't buy our records, but they would

521
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: camp out in the hotel lobbies, you know what I mean.

522
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: So it's like we had no money, but we couldn't

523
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: leave out really kind of you know, that's exactly what

524
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know, we played,

525
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: we toured back shore. He told you guys, we had

526
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: modest success, you know, you know, enough to where you

527
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: couldn't leave your hotel room. But like I said, nobody

528
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: was buying the records. And by the end of ninety seven,

529
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you know, it seemed like we

530
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: were we were kind of done. Like it just didn't

531
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna work. And at the time the States

532
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: were still like the MECA, like, oh my gosh, imagine

533
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: being released in the States. I think Backstreet had maybe

534
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: just started, you guys are getting ready to start being

535
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: released in the States. And then early ninety eight, small

536
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: label under BMG decided they wanted to release us in

537
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: the States, and we were like holy cow. Like it

538
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: was like we couldn't believe it, you know. So I flew,

539
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, flew back to to the States, and I

540
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: remember we played some shows of you guys remember playing

541
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: like a put put or something, but it was like

542
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: thirty people in nineteen ninety eight. We did those. We

543
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: would do those little little club gigs where they'd have

544
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: like four mics, not five or either, like one of

545
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: the mics would have a chord and all the rest

546
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: would be, you know, chordless. So you had to really,

547
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of work around a lot of those

548
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: video Well what about the European team clubs where none

549
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: of them worked? Oh yeah, like I know, Well they

550
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: were so confused when we would come to Europe because

551
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, we like to, you know, sing live, and

552
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: they're not used to people singing live. It was always

553
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: lip syncing, true. Yeah, yeah, so when we would it

554
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: was like you could not sing live. I don't think

555
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: they can have no work. They weren't capable. I remember

556
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: one time we four Stars. I think Vetten Doss is

557
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the only show that we could actually sing live. But

558
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: all the other shows, you know, MTV everything. We're like, no,

559
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: we're singing live. We have to prove ourselves. And then

560
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: the first time that we did and it sounded like

561
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: crap because they're just not prepared for it. We're like, okay,

562
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: we'll lip sync from now and we're good. We're good

563
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: anything exactly. Yeah, yeah, um, so how did you find Devin?

564
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Y'all did an open audition? Right, No, we did, so,

565
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, we started touring in the States and ninety

566
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: eight and again we started making some waves, like there

567
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: was you know, we're we're in the team magazine, were

568
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: with a little cool jail. We played some shoulder to

569
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: you guys. But you know, it's like we always kind

570
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: of look, you know, I think one of the tough

571
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 1: parts about being part of the camp and was like

572
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: we look at the other artists and see like where

573
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: they're at, what kind of videos they're shooting, and I mean,

574
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: and you want you want the same, you know, But

575
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: you guys in Backsheet are really kind of taken off

576
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: huge and we were still on a small label. And

577
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: so I remember one time we were with lou remember

578
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: the stage Delhi in New York City. Yes, yeah, so

579
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: we're sitting there, sitting there at the stage, the three

580
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: of us, and and I took like, I don't know,

581
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: like a catchup bottle and said this is ourca and

582
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Mayo and said this is this is Arista and Mustard,

583
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: and said this is Sony. Man. It took like three

584
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: sugar packets. I said either we go here, we go here,

585
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: we go here, and then I spread the sugar pack

586
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: as far as it overdone, Like basically like you got

587
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: to get us a bigger deal. We've gone as far

588
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: as we can go in the small label. So he

589
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: wound up setting up a showcase for us with Clive Davis.

590
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: It was out at some convention in San Diego, and

591
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: they set up a whole live performance set up in

592
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: a conference room out there, and it was just like

593
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Clive and a couple of his and one of the

594
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: guys from Germany, like five or six people to car.

595
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: You know, we put on like a half an hour

596
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: show for Clive. This is towards the end of and

597
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: and he liked it. And very early part of ninety nine,

598
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: I think January we toured. We had a tour over

599
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: in England. I don't know if you remember any of

600
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: those tours where they would like lure you over there

601
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: with you're gonna have a luxury minibus, ak minivan, you

602
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, yeah, we did this horrible

603
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: tour of like literally we played like kindergarten libraries, team

604
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: clubs with keen clubs, with fake mikes, and we're and

605
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: we're doing like three shows a day and they have us.

606
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: We're thinking, like we're going to London. They say you're

607
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: gonna stay in London. They had to stay in Wimbledon.

608
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: But during the wintertime there's nobody in Wimbledon. I mean,

609
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: so it was just we were miserable. But I was like,

610
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: the first time they took us to New York and

611
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: it is my first time, like to go New York City, Manhattan,

612
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is gonna be amazing, my first trip. Um.

613
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: And then he put us like deep into Queens somewhere

614
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: like just there was nothing around, like nothing. I'm like, well,

615
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: this is fun. But of course us teenagers sneak out

616
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: of the hotel at midnight, walking around Queens like idiots

617
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: and found an arcade somewhere played games. It could have

618
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: been dangerous, it could have been, but we were done. Yeah, Anyhow,

619
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: towards the end of Night eight, early night and night

620
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: we uh, we experienced which and I experienced the separation

621
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: with Brian. And in the meantime, UM, a guy named

622
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Mike Kaputo, who's like a Boston base manager, was still

623
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: like to me, he's one of my best friends and

624
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: really like the fourth member of La Phoe. But he um,

625
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: he was managing Devon at the time, and and I

626
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: think through Dacari, he brought Devon into the mix, and um,

627
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, the long story short is Devon joined and

628
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: and then Clive Davis decided to sign us. That's great

629
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: to explain who Dacari is to everyone. Dacari for he's

630
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: a music producer for Alfoe. Um, he was one of

631
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: the most important people in our world. He really helped

632
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: us to find our sound. He really helped us to

633
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: develop our show. Um, and you know he was he

634
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: really instilled a lot of confidence in us. And I still,

635
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, I still keep up with him. Yeah, in

636
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: a way, he was, man, I mean, he you know,

637
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: we we weren't you know. We obviously our show was

638
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: a lot different than yours. You were not singing in harmony,

639
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: and but he you know, he helped us to really

640
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: find our you know, our basis was in hip hop,

641
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, and he really helped us to find our sound,

642
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: to develop a show, and he just kind of he

643
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: just instill a lot of confidence. You know. It's a

644
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: very positive guy, you know. Um, and you know, some

645
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: producers they were just driving you crazy in the studio.

646
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you know, just you didn't feel

647
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: great while you're recording. But you know, with the car

648
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: he was just like always positive, always positive, and just

649
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: a really important part of the LFO story. And so,

650
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: um yeah, man. So we got signed to Arista Records

651
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: with with Clive Davis, and things got interesting from there

652
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: because I think the initial plan, you know, because you remember,

653
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: right when when you first get signed to the major,

654
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: it's like you'll sing any song makes tell you to sing, right,

655
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: it was like you're just happy to be sad. We

656
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: would have saying happy birthday if Clide said saying happy birthday,

657
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: you know, and they started and back then to remember,

658
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: they would always want to connect you with these big

659
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: producers as big songwriters. Um. And so they had these

660
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: different songs for us, but not really what necessary we

661
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: would really like. But hey, it's Clide Davis. We'll do

662
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. But we had a couple of songs

663
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: that we really wanted Clyde to listen to, and one

664
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: of them was Summer Girls. And I remember we had

665
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: a meeting with Clive one day in his office and

666
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I told rich before the meeting, said we have to

667
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: play him Summer Girls. And he goes, no, man, and

668
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: where did you find Summer Girls? How did y'all come

669
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: across that song? Well, we wrote it? Yeah, yea rich

670
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: rich Road rich lyrics, what Bob. And so we're sitting

671
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: in his office and we're just meeting. You know, he's

672
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: talking about Rudy Houston, Carlos Santan or whatever else you

673
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: know is Butler's bringing him his line and uh, I said, hey,

674
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: claud we have a song I want to play for you.

675
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: And Richard yeah, oh my. So he pops it in

676
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: the I don't know if it was a paid player

677
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: or CD player, and he listens to it. He goes, Okay,

678
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: that's that's a nice song. We can put that on

679
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: the album. We can put it on the album. And

680
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: so we started like freaking out because you know, back

681
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: then it was it was unusual for a boy band

682
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: to get a song on the album, and so um,

683
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: and so we're really excited. We go back to studio

684
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: recording some more. Meanwhile, do you remember, obviously your number

685
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: Z one hundred and one of the characters on the

686
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: morning show is do Great Tea that you called them

687
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Great Tea the frat boy. You would have them do

688
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: all sports or crazy things like break into Martha Stewart's

689
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: house and just crazy stuff. So um, there was a

690
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: programming director in the DC area that had received a

691
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: copy of Some Girls from our old label if He

692
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: was just kind of sending it around to get, you know,

693
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: to get some feedback. And this one particular day, he

694
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: was just looking for a summer song to play and

695
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: was like rifling through some CDs and listen to it,

696
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: liked it, put it on the air. This guy Great

697
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Tea from ZE one hundred was driving through see at

698
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: the time on his way home from a trip with

699
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. His girl, they hear the song. His girlfriend

700
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: starts freaking out how much he loves the song. He

701
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: calls the radio station asks what song it is? He

702
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: said he literally heard the guy like rifling through CDs

703
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: to try to figure it out. He got the name

704
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: of the song, he tracked it down and he brought

705
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: it to ZE one hundred and told told the PD

706
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: and told the morning. So like, you guys got to

707
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: hear this song. And one Friday morning they devoted their

708
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: entire morning to Summer Girls. And then it started exploding

709
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: on ZE one hundreds, which is like the biggest radio

710
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: station in the country. Meanwhile, Harriston wasn't ready for that,

711
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: and they actually try to stop it, and then Zeven andrews,

712
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: I listen, we're not stopping. And then other radio stations followed,

713
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: and so it was like, Okay, this is real. We

714
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta finish getting the album together. And the

715
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: other thing that did for us is it gave them

716
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: the confidence in us to write more songs for the

717
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: record and so to follow up to that girl on

718
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: TV something that that we wrote and west Side Story

719
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: if you wrote the songs. So, but that's that's that's

720
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: how Summer Girls. You know, you know, I think I

721
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: would I love stories like that because it's in true.

722
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: Back then, radio made you, like, I mean, you could

723
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: not be anything without radio. They made and broke artists, right,

724
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: But how often did a radio station play a song

725
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: without being solicited by an independent promoter. Never man, It's like, yeah, Greg,

726
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Greg T and I were talking about that the other day.

727
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I did his podcast a couple of weeks ago, and

728
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: it's such an unusual story because it's just not the

729
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: way radio happens. It does not happen that way. And

730
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: so um, yeah, that's obviously set things off. And Summer

731
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: Girls was you know, a number one hit, follow a

732
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Girl on TV? It was a big hit. What was

733
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: your favorite Turkey? I think girl on TV was your

734
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: favorite girl on TV? Yeah, and that was about Jennifer

735
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Love Hewett, right or is that a rumor? If? Girl

736
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: on TV? In one way it helped us sell a

737
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: lot more records, and in another way, I think it

738
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: costs us a lot of records. So we had the

739
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: same publicist as Jennifer of Hewett, and Rich was really

740
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: infatuated with her, and we were getting ready to do

741
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, one of the award shows in California

742
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: could have been like Kid's Choice or you know, one

743
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: of the many award shows, and she was going to

744
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: be there, and you know, I don't know, I don't

745
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: know how well you knew Rich, but he would get

746
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: really nervous for big things. You know, his face would

747
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: turn red and he would just you know, he just

748
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: was he get kind of angry. And so we're in

749
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: a limo driving to the show and he's drinking out.

750
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: You remember how the limos had like these glass bottles

751
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: of VA and stuff like that. You know, he's drinking

752
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, goes, Brad, he goes, stay away from her.

753
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He goes, don't go bad

754
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: in those eye lactes at her. I said, I said, dude,

755
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: I said, I was. I had no plan to like,

756
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: he goes, listen, you stay away from her. I'll give

757
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: you my publishing for Summer Girls and a cool you

758
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: could have the girl anyways. So so they needed this

759
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: award show and um and she she really inspired him

760
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: and we had the track for Girl on TV already,

761
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: and I think that night he went back and wrote

762
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: most of Girl on TV about her. And the problem was, um,

763
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: she was either still was or just had finished being

764
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: Carson Bailey's girlfriend. Yeah, And so we were on we

765
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: were on TRL one time and with Carson remember TRL,

766
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: like he had the glass wall and all the fans

767
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: are out in the street going crazy, and so you know,

768
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: he he's we're just talking. I remember exactly what we

769
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: were talking about, maybe the new album is coming out,

770
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: and then he goes, this is off script. He goes,

771
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: so I hear you have a new song, and we're

772
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: like what. He goes, girl on TV? He goes, who's

773
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: that about? And Rich was like not a word even

774
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: and even myself, which I do pretty well under pressure,

775
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say. And Devin the guy

776
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: never really speaks at all. He just sings and riffs.

777
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: He comes in and says to Day like, oh, you

778
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: know any girl you like in the movies? Whatever, But

779
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: that kind of okay, we kind of got the hint,

780
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: like okay, Carson's islence of this thing. And then we

781
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: had the audacity could put Jennifer love Hewitt in the

782
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: video and yeah that that you know, that was cool

783
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: because it made the video actually cool. But when the

784
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: guy who hosts the biggest show on MTV to play

785
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: your video, so you remember back then, like the big

786
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: thing was to have the TRL world premiere, right, that's

787
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: where you wanted your video to premiere. So initially that's

788
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: where it was going to be, and then they said no,

789
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. It was just going to be

790
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: a world premiere some other time slot, which was like, okay,

791
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: not so bad, and then it was we're just adding

792
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: it to rotation, and so that's a big problem, you

793
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think obviously the song still

794
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: did really well and still sold a lot of copies

795
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: and was it was a pretty big hit. But I

796
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: don't know man the drama Carson because because Richard Love,

797
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: they did date after that, right, I mean, weren't they. Yeah? Yeah,

798
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: while now we you know, we we made a man's

799
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: with Carson and we wound up going back on Remember

800
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: they did TRL down Yst I think it was two

801
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: thousand and one and went down there with him and

802
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: but yes, I remember that and they found terror read

803
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: oh Dinny, Yeah, did Carson day Tara? Yes, I don't

804
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: remember research. I think Carsons. Yeah. Someone someone said this

805
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: and I can't confirm if it's true, but apparently on

806
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: the last episode of tr um on one of the

807
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: last things Carson said it was some sort of some

808
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: sort of dig at LFO. I don't know if that's

809
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: true or not, but I hope it is because I

810
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: making a good story. But you get free rent in

811
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: his brain. That's what they say, Yeah, what does how

812
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: did you come up with light funky Ones? Like what

813
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: who came up with it? You know, in our minds

814
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't stand for life Ones, it's you know, it

815
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: started with Rich as this blonde haired, green eyed rapper

816
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: in Boston, you know, a teenager, and they just nicknamed

817
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: in the life Funky One because Rich was literally he

818
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: was one of the greatest rappers who ever lived. Wouldn't

819
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: you wouldn't necessarily hear it, you know, in our music,

820
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: but if you gave him like a beat and a microphone,

821
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: his freestyle was crazy. Man. He was so creative, and

822
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: so they would call him a light funky one. And

823
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: then when he met Brian, they just decided to be

824
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: like funky ones. And then when you know, when when

825
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: I got at him, we got signed and we just

826
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: went by like Funky Ones LFO, and then we dropped

827
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: the Life Funky Ones apart because we realized at some point,

828
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: maybe when twenty that it was whack so but over

829
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 1: over a journey. There still there's like a techno group

830
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: called Lefo, and so they still had the trademark. So

831
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: in the Europe you'll see us as Lefo and underneath

832
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: it by Funky Ones. But at this point, I don't

833
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: even care. Just like back then, we hated being called

834
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: boy band exactly, I don't care. And I was gonna

835
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: say that because we all hated being called boy bands.

836
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: But even like the most boy bandy of boy bands,

837
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: we hated being called boy band because when we all

838
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: started in the nineties, there was no such thing. We

839
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: just wanted to be respected and I'm a man, yeah,

840
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: And well, the term boy band, especially over in Europe,

841
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: it just became like we were talking about earlier lip syncing.

842
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: It was you know, it was manufactured by a label.

843
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: It just wasn't very authentic at all. So you didn't

844
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: want to be associated with that because you wanted people

845
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: to see that you were talented and you you know,

846
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: we wanted to stand out. So anytime you call boy band,

847
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: you're like cringe. But I would imagine with your group,

848
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: because you aren't the typical boy band. You know, you're

849
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: not doing the crazy choreography um and doing all the harmonies.

850
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all were like rapping, right, Um, how did

851
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: y'all deal with I mean, did they immediately start calling

852
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: you a boyband? Just because you were three guys in

853
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: a group or did they have like how did they

854
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: market you at first? Yeah? Yeah, for sure, Well they

855
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: definitely did. And you know remember in Germany, dude, like

856
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: we were we all like I know you do too.

857
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: There's so many pictures of those days that I wish

858
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: would disappear forever. Ye like name Max Martins literally just

859
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: posted a picture of us because I Want You back,

860
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: just twenty six years old and twenty six and he

861
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: put a picture when I first landed in Sweden and

862
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: we were recording I Want You Back, our very first song,

863
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm still I think I just turned seventeen.

864
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I don't know how old I

865
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: was seventeen, but I was on acutane because you know,

866
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: you had a few pimples. But you know, I was

867
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: just talking about acutaine that the same doctor's office two

868
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: days ago, because I was there with my kids. I

869
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: was there with my kids, and I still go to

870
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: the same doctor's office that you and I went to

871
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, did you ever take accudine? So

872
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, said said doctor Krody put me in

873
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: Lance on acutaine back in nineteen ninety six. Yeah, I

874
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: mean because Justin had Donna and it, you know, worked

875
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: for him, and they're like, you know, you have a

876
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: few pimples, kid, you know, a kid, you're seventeen. But

877
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: if you take acutanine, we'll get rid of all that.

878
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: So I did that. But accutane, you know, pushes everything

879
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: out for a good six months. So these pictures of

880
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: when we do I want you back. I look like

881
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: someone had just like hit me across the face with

882
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: the baseball bat. It was just hard. And so yeah,

883
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: he posted that picture this week and like, goodlord, us

884
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: a filtered back smartin seriously, man, and just how about

885
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: like the team magazines and make you dress up in

886
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: where the skunk costume? Especially you guys, especially you guys.

887
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys dressed up as like Easter

888
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: bunnies or something like that, and they painted us gold

889
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: for a cover. Like we would do anything, because you know,

890
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: we had to do everything. We were trying to catch

891
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: up to the Battery Boys. So if a magazine even

892
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: wanted to interview us, like yes, it's like, oh you

893
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: want to put us in dresses, Sure we'll do it.

894
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just whatever they asked we did well

895
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: and always trying to take your shirt off. Oh, take

896
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: your shirt off, kids, take your shirt off. Oh yeah,

897
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I think that's really the only

898
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: reason people like me back then. But yeah, so so

899
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like so so yeah they were. They

900
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: consider us a boy band, and you know back then

901
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: saying you know, you got the hair, they load a

902
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: bunch of makeup on you. And but we it was

903
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: such a negative connotation back then, like like you, we

904
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: did not want to be considered that. And I remember

905
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: one time we were doing a live TV show in

906
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Germany and we had the bright idea of writing across

907
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: my chest with a sharpie we ain't no boy band

908
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: and at the end of our step and the other

909
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: side that pulled up my shirt or a live TV

910
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: we ain't no boy band. Oh that did not go

911
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: down very very good. Well, that could have gone either way.

912
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, because the fans are I mean, look, we

913
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: love our fandoms out there, but you don't mess with

914
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: the boy band fandoms. They will cut you. All right, All,

915
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: let's take a little break and we come back. I

916
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: have some fan questions for you, so don't go anywhere.

917
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: We're back with Brad Faschetti. All Right, so, um, I

918
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: have some fan questions for you, and let's see what

919
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: do you think. Okay, Kitty trash Panda, which is a

920
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: great name. Kitty trash Panda, It's a great name. Um.

921
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Oh we already answered this one. Is it true you

922
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: were Lou Proman's limo driver? Yes, indeed and got my

923
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: parents lost. Uh what is your It wasn't It wasn't

924
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: your future. It just wasn't. Um. What's your favorite LEFO song?

925
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: By moon Child thirty five? My favorite Lefo song is

926
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: from the first record, a song called Baby Be Mine,

927
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Baby Be Mine. Okay, to carry produce and nice. Okay,

928
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: I'll check that one out. What is one thing not

929
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people know about Rich and Devon? This

930
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: is from Sarahl Sarah Iggy. All right, yeah, I know,

931
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know that. Oh yeah, by recognize some

932
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: of the screen names you recognize from past. Um, I

933
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: guess some people know that Rich was When he was

934
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: on it was like literally the funniest person on the planet.

935
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: He commanded a room like like nobody else, especially when

936
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: he had a drink forget about it. Well, he had

937
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: a name for I think he called it personality or something, Yeah,

938
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: a little personality, yeah yeah, but he was just the

939
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: funniest guy on the planet. Um. And you know Devin,

940
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, Devin really grew to be an extraordinary musician

941
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: and really like a philosopher. Like when when we met Devin,

942
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: he just sang, you know. I mean he barely spoke.

943
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: When he would wake up in the morning, would like,

944
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, he'd stand over the toilet. You hear him going,

945
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: like he just sang, you know. And when we took

946
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: our hiatus, when band worder broke up, Um, he spent

947
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: like five years in his house just like studying music, Um,

948
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: studying instruments, reading a lot. He read the entire dictionary

949
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: and he came out of that, like and then he

950
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: started getting into meditation. Like he literally meditated for like

951
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: a year or two straight. Like he just you couldn't

952
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: get a word out of him, but he just became

953
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: this really amazing sort of philosopher and he just I

954
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: don't people are didn't get a chance to see that

955
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: that side of him. Yeah, no, we didn't. And you know,

956
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: and to get into you know, the sad part of

957
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: all this, you know, you do an amazing tribute on

958
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: the Pop two thousand tour. Um, you know, for your

959
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: for your brothers in the band, Um, that has to

960
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: take a lot of energy out of you every single

961
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: night you hit that stage. When you when you do that,

962
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, tribute to them. So how do you stay positive?

963
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: You know with such sadness around your group? You know,

964
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: at some point when your face with that adversity, you

965
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: have to choose lighter darkness, you know, and when you know,

966
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Rich passed away in two thousand and

967
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: ten after battling the kemia for five years. Um, we

968
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: were devastated, as were a lot of the fans, but

969
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: you know I had still had Devon thankfully. He was

970
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: not only my bandmate but my best friend. And you

971
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: lived in town and after my garage for a couple

972
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: of years. And um, and we brought Lefo back on

973
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: the road. And in twenty seventeen U in see two

974
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, Jeff Timmans from Randy Degrees and I

975
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: were texting back and forth and he mentioned that they

976
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: attributed Lephoe during their My two K tour, and kind

977
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: of half joking, I said, hey man, but if you

978
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: ever want us to do a cameo let me know,

979
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: and he goes, all right, pick a date, and you know,

980
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: I looked at the calendar and they were playing Coney

981
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: Islands and that's that's where we shot the Summer Girls video.

982
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: So we flew up there. We did our part. I

983
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: was like, you know, thirty seconds long, but the crowd

984
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, really kind of went crazy. And three days

985
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: later I got a call from an agent ask me

986
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: if we'd bring Lefo back on the road. And that

987
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: wasn't something that Devin and I ever really considered, um,

988
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: but I prayed about it a lot. U tried to

989
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: like zem and where my heart was my where were

990
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: my attentions? You know, as were clear in my heart

991
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: was pure. Like it was like, how can we honor rich?

992
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: How can we bring the fans back to a simple

993
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: old time? And then obviously there's an opportunity to help

994
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: support your family. And so we did that tour in seventeen. Man,

995
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: it was really um. We we brought the whole band out.

996
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: I drove the tour bus, we slept at truck stops,

997
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, and a month after the tour, Devin got sick.

998
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: You know. For those who don't know Devon, he was

999
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: like the most fit dude you could ever meet, kind

1000
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: of like the guy sitting right next to you, like

1001
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: just Diesel, you know what I mean, what about me?

1002
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: What about me? What about Lance? I mean, you're you know,

1003
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: you've gotten more handsome as the years have gone out.

1004
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: But that guy next years, the guy next to you,

1005
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: is real fit. But but you know, Devin was strong

1006
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: and he ate good, had very little stress, and then

1007
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: he just felt his weird pain and his stomach and

1008
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: turned out he had the tumor on the side of

1009
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: the football primary and general cancer. So the Adriano glance,

1010
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: it's on top of the kidney and it's like a

1011
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: one in a million cancer, which I guess is appropriate

1012
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: for one in a million kind of guy. And he

1013
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: had a surgery that we thought would be curative. You know,

1014
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: I took out a tumor and kidney and um, but

1015
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: it had spread to his bonds and his blood. And yeah,

1016
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: I just I was so out of the blue for sure,

1017
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: because with Rich, you know Rich did he go into

1018
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: remission at one point? Yeah? He you know, Rich battle

1019
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: for five years, he had you know, he um he

1020
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: had chemo and then I think he learned too remission

1021
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: and then he had a stem cell transplant, right, because

1022
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: with that stem cell, does it like it changed like

1023
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: the look of his face too. Well, what happened was

1024
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: when the stem cells, I don't know the scientific way

1025
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: to stays, but when they don't match up perfectly, yeah,

1026
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: you can get a disease called graph versus host disease.

1027
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: And the graph versus host disease is really what did

1028
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: him in um and he suffered me. At one point

1029
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: during treatment, he had a stroke. He just was really even.

1030
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: We actually brought Lefa back on the road in two

1031
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: thousand and nine and we did one last tour and

1032
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: he was really sick at the time, but but we'd

1033
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: let him remember the back lounge of the tour buff

1034
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: he gave a whole lounge to him. That was his domain.

1035
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: During the day, he would sleep like Devin and I

1036
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: would do the press, we would do the sound checks,

1037
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: and then we'd we'd help him get dressed, help him

1038
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: get to the stage. And as soon as he was

1039
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: like you know, on the stage with his mic stand,

1040
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: he was good. He would rot the shows. And then

1041
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, a few months after the tour, I'd heard

1042
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: that he was having trouble walking. So I texted him like, hey, man,

1043
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: I hear you're having trouble walking. I figured there's no

1044
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: better way to get you out of bed than the tour.

1045
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: So what do you think Let's let's sched him on

1046
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: the tour. And he didn't respond. And a couple of

1047
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: weeks after that was his birthday, texted on no response,

1048
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: and then like a week after that I found out

1049
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: that that he had passed away. But with Devin, it

1050
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: happened quick. Man. It was like he got diagnosed in

1051
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: the fall of seventeen and he was gone a year later. Man,

1052
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: he really you know, cancer is cancer does not discriminated.

1053
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: As you guys know, we've all experienced losses, but you know, Devin,

1054
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: he really suffered and it was just it was devastating

1055
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: And it really was like when when Devin died, it

1056
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: was like the last straw for me. You know what

1057
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean? Now I know you are You're a man

1058
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: of God for sure. And did this make you turn

1059
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: to God even more after this? Or have you always

1060
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: been a churchman? You know? I really wasn't a churchman.

1061
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: I grew up going to church, okay, like I don't

1062
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: know how often, but it wasn't like our weekends revolved

1063
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: around church. We didn't create the dinner table anything like that. Um.

1064
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: And then sort of, in the height of lfoe, actually

1065
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: lost my faith altogether. Um. And you know that's a

1066
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: whole noble story. But you know, I sort of came back,

1067
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: came back to it after going through some really tough times.

1068
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm definitely a believer, and I've learned to

1069
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 1: stay for me personally, Like it's important that I really

1070
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: stay tight to my my faith. I think it helps

1071
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: keep me moving in the right direction. Now. When Devan died,

1072
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't go through like a crisis where

1073
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't believe anymore. But I spent a

1074
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: lot of time screaming begging God not to take him,

1075
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, when he was getting real sick, just like

1076
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: please don't take him, you know. And but when he died,

1077
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, I honestly I just went into the darkness, man.

1078
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned it at the Aaron Carter thing. But

1079
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: it's like it's like somebody pulled the hood over my eyes,

1080
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, and I just really went dark. I found

1081
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: no joy in anything. I was sad, mad, And eventually

1082
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: my wife's like, you gotta do something you can't live

1083
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: this way at the time I had At the time,

1084
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: I had five kids, and so you know, I just

1085
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: decided to get some help. Man, It's like we get

1086
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: to a point in our lives where we have to

1087
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: make a choice light or darkness, and as men, we

1088
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: have to be vulnerable enough to say I need some help.

1089
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: You know, we're always so quick to make sure that

1090
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: our bodies are in order and get other physicals and

1091
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: working out. But I think with men especially, and things

1092
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: don't feel so great in the brain, we're hesitant to

1093
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: get hesitant to get some help. And so I did.

1094
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: I went to my primary doctor, gave me a questionnaire,

1095
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: sent me immediately to a psychiatrist, met with my therapist

1096
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: my pastor, tried to eat better, try to work out more,

1097
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: tried to spend some time with my friends, and you know, eventually,

1098
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: eventually I got through the darkness. Now, there's there's certain

1099
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: losses we experience in life that I don't think anybody

1100
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: you just can't get over. And that's you know, Devin

1101
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: is one of them. We were just our closeness was

1102
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: just hard to describe um and it still blows my

1103
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: mind that is gone. But we have a choice, And

1104
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: so what am I going to do? Sit around and cry?

1105
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: And so am I going to try to live like

1106
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: they would want me to live? So? Yeah, and you

1107
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: have a beautiful, beautiful life. I mean, one, you have

1108
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: an incredible legacy that you're going to be leaving, just

1109
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, like Devin and Rich what is the legacy

1110
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: that you would like to leave? Is it your family?

1111
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: Because you have, you know, beautiful family. I mean, your

1112
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: life is amazing right now. But what is what when

1113
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: you when you leave this planet? What is the legacy

1114
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: you'd like people to remember you? I guess the I

1115
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: guess the greatest thing that someone can say of oppression

1116
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: is that they were a good father, a good husband, honest, genuine, generous, right, um,

1117
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: somebody who you know you think about, like like in

1118
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: scripture talks about like you know, being the poor and

1119
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: clothing the naked and visiting the in prison and people

1120
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: who are in hospital. Those are important things in my life,

1121
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: you know. And the musical legacy that I have the

1122
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: unfortunate honor to and nurture at this point is a

1123
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. And I know a lot of folks will

1124
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: remember me for that opportunity or that that that part

1125
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: of my life. But but being my kids looking back

1126
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: and saying, oh he was he was a good dad.

1127
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know that's that's the thing

1128
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: that would be most important to me, or my wife

1129
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: staying on he was a good husband, or you know

1130
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: people at church and I'm like, oh, you know, he

1131
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: helped he helped me with this, or he did a

1132
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: lot to feed the poor. Those are important things. But

1133
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, the legacy that Devin enriched up behind and

1134
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: every day I pray and I thank them for for

1135
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: that legacy. You know, I'm not the guy dude like like,

1136
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: I never wanted to stand on stage by myself ever.

1137
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Enemy Um, it just that wasn't my aspiration. You know,

1138
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: Rich and Devin wanted to do soloars. I never wanted that.

1139
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: So the fact that I'm the guy staying there trying

1140
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: to honor them, it's just I don't know what the

1141
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: word is for it, but but I take it seriously.

1142
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: And you know, when I'm on the Pop two thousand tour,

1143
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, I got the old time guys that are

1144
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: up there with me and on stage, and you've been

1145
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: you've been up there with me too. Saratoga Springs right,

1146
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: And then I do a show called The Lefho Story

1147
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: where I had my bands and I just tell the

1148
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: whole story from nineteen seventy four and Richards born until today,

1149
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: playing music at the time that inspired us our own music,

1150
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: and then sharing some of these personal stories throughout the

1151
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: concert as well. So it's a very interesting life. Man.

1152
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: It's you know, the the lefol stories. It's definitely a tragedy.

1153
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: But um, and what we all went through with Perlman,

1154
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: which is you know everybody knows about It's like we

1155
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: could all just go out and hell fit this is

1156
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: a horrible story. But um, I don't know if that

1157
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: really when we're facing the kind of the kind of

1158
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: difficult things, it's like, well, don't don't let the negative

1159
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: pull it down. Let's try to bring something positive about

1160
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: out of what negative situation or tragic situation. It makes

1161
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: you the person who you are today. And I know

1162
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, you know, people, it's not

1163
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: what you do, it's how you made people feel. And

1164
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,959
Speaker 1: the way you make people feel is everyone does feel

1165
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: your kindness. That's what I always hear about you. It's

1166
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: like God, he's like the most kind person and just

1167
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: wants to take care of others, um and that that

1168
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: is a legacy right there. That is a beautiful thing

1169
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: to leave everyone with. When when the whole thing went

1170
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: down with Lou, Like, I don't even know how close

1171
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: you were when he went to prison, Like we'd been

1172
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: away from him for years, but I'm assuming he was

1173
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: more like family to you than he was to us.

1174
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: But when all that started going down, where we found

1175
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: out about the Ponzi schemes and all this, were you

1176
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: surprised at that? And were you in contact with him

1177
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: at that point? I've been at a contact with him

1178
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: for a few years. I don't, honestly don't. I don't remember.

1179
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: I guess just maybe like two thousand and in five

1180
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: or so when when I lost contact with him. I

1181
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: don't remember what year things weren't down with him. But

1182
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as you know du Lou was.

1183
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: He was a very, very troubled soul, and and there

1184
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: was no real middle ground with him, right, Yeah, there

1185
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: was parts of him that were great. I mean, he

1186
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to hang around with. You

1187
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: like to go to nice dinners, you'd like to go

1188
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: to the movies. You know, he he invested a lot

1189
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: of money into a bunch of kids that you know,

1190
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: didn't have much of a history. Um. But then all

1191
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: the bad stuff that he was involved as obviously came out.

1192
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: That great will start eating at you, you know. And

1193
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: I told him one time, mans, I told him one time.

1194
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: I said, dude, you could have you could have had

1195
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: an empire at Clay five days. All you had to

1196
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: do was going, Okay, it's time to renegotiate these contracts.

1197
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Just be fair. Just be fair, because I don't know.

1198
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we had the same lawyer as you guys,

1199
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: but you know, it costs us like two hundred thousand dollars.

1200
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: And he knew what I came down to, you know,

1201
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: the lawyer, remember the lawyers I don't talk to, don't talk.

1202
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: I sat down with him at the Power Steakhouse in

1203
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: Orlando at the end of it and said, here's the

1204
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: five remaining issues. Let's work him out right now. And

1205
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: we did what I mean. But if he would have

1206
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: just renegotiated with all of us, we would all stay

1207
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: loyal to him, and he would have been like you

1208
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: said the next moltown. But like you said, greed, Greed

1209
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: is one, I guess, a very deadly sin. And it's

1210
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: unfortunate because he had he had good attributes, but he

1211
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: was a very troubled, troubled soul, and I just think

1212
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: he got in over his head where he needed all

1213
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: this money, Like he knew he was stealing from us,

1214
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: but he was, you know, creating a Ponzi scheme in

1215
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: every single business that he had, so he had to

1216
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: pay these people off. So he was using our money

1217
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So I think he

1218
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: was just way over his head his whole entire career.

1219
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, he definitely was a creative guy.

1220
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: You know, he was very smart, you know, very smart

1221
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: and creative. But it's a shame that that his legacy

1222
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: is is what it is. But but on the good side,

1223
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't for him, you know, you and I wouldn't

1224
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: be talking right exactly. I mean, we have to look

1225
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: at the positive things like this. Everyone goes through, especially

1226
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry. You hear this story over and

1227
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: over and I'm pretty much I would say ninety percent

1228
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: of artists go through someone like a loop Roman, so

1229
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: it you know, and they always say, well you learn

1230
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: something right, so and I think we did it really

1231
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: taught me a lot about what to look out for

1232
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: and really treat this like a business, because when you

1233
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: get into this at a young age like we did,

1234
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: it's you're not thinking of it as a business. This

1235
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: is just fun. Like I can't believe I get to

1236
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: do this. I mean, I'll pay you to be able

1237
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: to do this, right for sure. But then you realize, wait,

1238
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: wait a minut, this is a business and people are

1239
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: making a lot of money off of us, and we're

1240
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: not getting our fair share. So you know, you're mature

1241
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: and you start to realize, you know, when you grow

1242
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: up that wow, I need to take control of my

1243
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: own business here. And we all did. We all did,

1244
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: and we learned at an early age, which is nice

1245
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: to have that lesson early on in life. All Right,

1246
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: So I have a little questionnaire before I let you go.

1247
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: I want to see if you can remember what you

1248
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: answered in a nineteen ninety nine Bop magazine article. All right,

1249
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: now think Brad Fischetti nineteen ninety nine, Get into that

1250
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: that era. All right, okay, So what is your idea

1251
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: of a good first date? What would Brad say in

1252
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: ninety nine? Oh? Well, what did I say ninety nine?

1253
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: I had no idea, did I stay like a beach

1254
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: or movies or something. It is a movie. You go

1255
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: to a house yours or hers and watch a movie

1256
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: before you invented Netflix and chill look at you like

1257
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: a psyche. Welcome, You're welcome, Thank you, thank you. Um?

1258
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: All right, what's a bad first date? What would you

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Speaker 1: not do? The ballet? That's a good You said, don't

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Speaker 1: go skiing or Disney World. You said, don't do anything

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Speaker 1: that's gonna make you sweat or have body order or

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of money. Where okay? Um? And then

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Speaker 1: we have an interview from MTV Fanatic interview from the

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Speaker 1: year two thousand and two thousand and one, one of

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Speaker 1: those okay, So the question is, if you were on

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Speaker 1: the show Who Wants to be a Millionaire? Which one

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Speaker 1: of the guys would you pick to be your lifeline

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Speaker 1: between between Rich and den Um. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: you can throw Brian in there too, if you want.

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Speaker 1: Back then, I probably would have said it Rich, but

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Speaker 1: these days I would I would say Devin because he

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Speaker 1: just became like this amazing philosopher, right right, good. If

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Speaker 1: you were on the show Who Wants to be a Millionaire?

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Speaker 1: Which one of the guys. Would you use he was

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Speaker 1: rich because he knows everything about history. Yeah, there you go. Yes,

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Speaker 1: look at that right and your last one from Bop

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Speaker 1: magazine in nineteen ninety nine. How do you get out

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Speaker 1: of a bad date? Brad? This is funny to be

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Speaker 1: maybe like food poisoning or diarrhea. No, you just said

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Speaker 1: you You said say something like, oh my god, I've

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Speaker 1: gotta go, and then don't answer any more phone goals,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta go, Oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go, and then disappear. You invented ghosting too, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, you ghosting guys? Just just say thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. I love it. You

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Speaker 1: can add this to your legacy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, put

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Speaker 1: that in your book. Would you ever write a book?

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Speaker 1: Would you do an autobiography to tell your story? Um?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. People have said that to me before. Um.

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Speaker 1: Is there something that people don't know about you that

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Speaker 1: they would be surprised you put in a book? Is

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Speaker 1: there something that you've not let out yet? Well, you

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Speaker 1: can't tell us. Is to save it for the book?

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Speaker 1: I know you put it on my podcasting a book,

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan? Yeah, just call me, Joe. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think some things are better on set. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know this, Yeah, well we'll see, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: the story as it is. I've told a good part

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Speaker 1: of it already via interviews and stuff. Um, but if

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Speaker 1: you know, the right publisher came along, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: write books, but not necessarily an autobiography of what would

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Speaker 1: you like to write about? I'm more of like a

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Speaker 1: fiction guy. Yeah, you know. I like Steinbeck. He's my

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Speaker 1: favorite author, you know. So I listen to a lot

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Speaker 1: of that, do a lot of audio books. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love my audio But we're listening to the Stephen King

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Speaker 1: book right now. Used a new one. That's the brand

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Speaker 1: new one. It's called fairy Tale. It is. It's the say.

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Speaker 1: I love listen to audible books or you know anything.

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Speaker 1: It's like a podcast. When I go to sleep, you know,

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Speaker 1: I put the little timer on and put in like

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Speaker 1: for forty five minutes and I just kind of just

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Speaker 1: go to sleep listening. But it has to be a

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Speaker 1: good narrator, you know. It's like if you get a

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Speaker 1: bad book, but a bad narrator can't do it. But

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Speaker 1: Stephen King picks some really great actors to do it.

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Speaker 1: Stephen King books are scary. I think this one is

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Speaker 1: gonna get scary. It hasn't yet. We're about sixty chapters

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Speaker 1: in and he's still describing what he had for Brady.

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Speaker 1: He's a real descriptive, that Stephen King. But it's it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one to put you to sleep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not boring, but it just, you know, rock shit

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Speaker 1: asleep a little bit untially get scary. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: then he had nightmares. Yeah, Um, Brad, how can everyone

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Speaker 1: stay in touch with you out there? The social media

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Speaker 1: handles are the great phone and that's you know, that's

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Speaker 1: where we're at. All right, sounds good, Well, we'll be

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Speaker 1: seeing you on tour. The Pop two thousand Tour is

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Speaker 1: going to every city near you. I mean this. I

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Speaker 1: remember when the Otown guys put this tour together. I

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Speaker 1: think it was supposed to be like six months and

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Speaker 1: now it's going on for years, so it's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And of course my boy Chris kerp Patrick is hosting it.

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Speaker 1: So go check out the Pop two thousand Tour because

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Speaker 1: it is a really really really great show and a

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Speaker 1: very moving obviously part that you do in the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. But it was great to get

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Speaker 1: to know you so much better. Brad. I love having

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Speaker 1: you on the show. I hope to see you very soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It's good seeing you guys and

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Speaker 1: doing nice chatting with you. All right, man, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you later, all right, Brad Vachette, We love him.

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Speaker 1: What a great guy. It's yeah, it's you know, especially

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Speaker 1: having to deal with, you know, such devastation in your group.

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Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't imagine. I could not imagine because,

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Speaker 1: like he said, I never want to be a sole artist,

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Speaker 1: to be on the stage by myself. It's just not

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Speaker 1: my thing. But imagine if for four of the guys,

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Speaker 1: all of your members go and then I'm on stage

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Speaker 1: by myself having to do the InSync catalog, bawling my

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Speaker 1: eyes out, open up the song. It's like, well, I

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Speaker 1: got a song the octave, three octaves, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to do the whole. But I just could I couldn't

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Speaker 1: imagine because I mean, those are your brothers, um I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know it. I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: imagine it right now. This is not good to talk about.

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Speaker 1: This a positive show, all right, Guys, that is all

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Speaker 1: the show I have for you. Who's coming up next week? Anyone? No,

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Speaker 1: no one? We don't know. We never know who's coming

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Speaker 1: up next week. But I'm glad you're listening. We love

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Speaker 1: your support out there. We love your DM so get

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Speaker 1: us at I crossed the tips with lance h DMUs there.

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Speaker 1: That's how we talk to you, um our ladies at

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Speaker 1: my Heart. Any questions, any remarks, any tips, we'll put

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Speaker 1: them on anything. Do you have any tips today? We

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Speaker 1: didn't have any tips. I did have this. This one

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Speaker 1: went long because we're trying to make these a lot

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Speaker 1: longer because I know I originally I wanted this to

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Speaker 1: be a thirty minute podcast. Oh no, They're like, if

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Speaker 1: it's not at least an hour, we don't even want it.

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Speaker 1: So wow, weird, we hear you. Yeah, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: make them longer. I just thought you wanted bite sized stuff,

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Speaker 1: but you don't know. They want They want some media

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Speaker 1: and it keeps you on the treadmill for a lot longer. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: I love listening to podcast on treadmill. Yeah, you just

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Speaker 1: walk on that treadmore and just it flies by. You're like,

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Speaker 1: holy crap, you just driver on the block. For an hour. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, well here's your tip. If you see a UFO,

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Speaker 1: take a picture of it. Why are we seeing any

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Speaker 1: pictures of these things? I know Alaska all the images

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Speaker 1: of things shooting down, like someone take a photo. Do

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Speaker 1: we not have great cameras in Alaska? They're coming to

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Speaker 1: you first? All right? I know you got to intercept

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Speaker 1: these things, Sarah Palin make yourself. Where are you girl?

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Speaker 1: But out the camera? See you a vose from your house?

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Speaker 1: I know, all right, I mean ring camera. Something's got

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Speaker 1: to catch these things, ring camera. Yeah, that'll bit. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that is all the show. I half of you, of course,

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