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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton is convinced that that letter defeated her, What

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Speaker 1: do you say to her? I hope not. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I sure hope not. But the

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Speaker 1: book for this reason. But talking about leadership, it was

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Speaker 1: important to tell the email story because it's me trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to lead well. That people will

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Speaker 1: read that story and try to put themselves in my shoes,

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Speaker 1: try to realize that I'm not trying to help a

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Speaker 1: candidate or hurt a candidate. I'm trying to do the

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Speaker 1: right thing. And you can come up with different conclusions.

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Speaker 1: Reasonable people would have chosen a different door for reasonable reasons.

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Speaker 1: But it's just not fair to say we were doing

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Speaker 1: it for some illegitimate reason. But but at some level

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Speaker 1: wasn't the decision to reveal influenced by your assumption that

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was going to win and your concern, and

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Speaker 1: that she wins, this comes out several weeks later, and

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Speaker 1: then that's taken by her opponents a sign that she's

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Speaker 1: an illegitimate president. It must have been. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: consciously thinking about that, but it must have been because

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Speaker 1: I was operating in a world where Hillary Clinton was

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Speaker 1: it was a factor. Like I said, I don't remember

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Speaker 1: the moment she's elected, the moment this comes out, if

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Speaker 1: you knew that letter would elect Donald Trump, you'd still

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Speaker 1: send it. I would. I would. In fact, that was

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Speaker 1: a question asked by one of my best people, UH

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Speaker 1: I said, thank you for asking that question. That's a

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Speaker 1: an independent force in American life. If I ever start

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Speaker 1: considering whose political fortunes will be affected by a decision,

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Speaker 1: We're done. We're no longer that group in America that

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Speaker 1: There's there's no precedent for putting out information like this

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Speaker 1: Call Me describes the fateful decisions around the two thousand

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Speaker 1: a toll free telephone number. It's very strange to watch

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Speaker 1: my own television network having my name up as a

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Speaker 1: days investigating the mafia and Ostra decades earlier. Comey learned

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to buy that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: But instead, what I'm talking about is that leadership culture

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Speaker 1: experience with the Trump administration. Critics say the fix was

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Speaker 1: And to those who say you should have brought Hillary

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Speaker 1: show the American people the FBI's work separately. Believing the

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Speaker 1: a dramatic and unprecedented move calling a press conference without

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Speaker 1: James Comey is about to give a statement to the press.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to give you an update on the FBI's

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Speaker 1: Your critics say, this is where your ego got the

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Speaker 1: as bad as this will be from me personally, this

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Speaker 1: Given all that had gone on, the Attorney General of

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Speaker 1: also harshly critical. Secretary Clinton used several different servers contained

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Speaker 1: The way they put it, listening the FBI. We simply

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Speaker 1: do not bloody up people. We choose not to prosecute. Look,

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Speaker 1: that's fair criticism. The Department Justice has long done that

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Speaker 1: in the appropriate case where it's necessary, the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 1: doubt creeps in that the system is rigged Somehow can

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Speaker 1: you assure people that the Obama Justice Department was not

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Speaker 1: protecting Hillary Clinton? Yes, the FBI drove this investigation, and

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Speaker 1: You know, there are two major pieces of this that

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Speaker 1: Well it might be possible, Well, anything might be possible.

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Speaker 1: the first interview with James Comey. There's so much here

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Speaker 1: when Stop Stephanopolos asked, this is any truth to the story.

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Speaker 1: It's possible, the story about hookers in a bed in Moscow.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the problem with that that Remember if you

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Speaker 1: listen to the former FBI Deputy director Rod Rosenstein quoted

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Speaker 1: as saying, without any dossier, there is no application for

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Speaker 1: a FISA warrant to spy on an opposition party candidate

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Speaker 1: and a lead up to an election, there is none. Now,

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Speaker 1: that to me means so when he went in January

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Speaker 1: well then how did they possibly use that very same

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Speaker 1: up to an election? With information that the FISAL law

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Speaker 1: here's another question for Comy that they didn't get into

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Speaker 1: destroying classified documents. Now we know that Hillary Clinton to

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Speaker 1: being incompetent. Okay, Uh, yeah, No, I think Look, we've

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Speaker 1: gone through the we've gone through all of this in

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Speaker 1: detail about investigating the investigators, and I don't think you

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Speaker 1: put a team together like this unless you have uh,

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Speaker 1: some desire to do, you know, something nefarious and and

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Speaker 1: look deeper and deeper. I won't argue that. I just

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Speaker 1: want to bring up another point that has to do

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Speaker 1: with Cohen, since he's in Kurt today. You know, uh,

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Speaker 1: President Trump didn't become President Trump by not knowing what

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Speaker 1: the other side was doing. And is it possible that

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Speaker 1: all this that's taken ace with the people around him

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Speaker 1: that he knows exactly what's been doing. They're doing and

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Speaker 1: they're playing right into the President's hands. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: they're playing right into the president's hands in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways. I think also the media has a lot

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Speaker 1: of egg on their face. Well, I think it's all

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Speaker 1: going to come out here shortly, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot is coming out shortly, and it's just a

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Speaker 1: matter of time. I can't wait to get the rest

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Speaker 1: of the IG report. We had the first part of

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Speaker 1: the report on the deputy FBI Director McCabe the other day.

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Speaker 1: All right, should I pay this off? Everybody's going insane here, Linda,

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Speaker 1: you watching all this. I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing going on. No, there's nothing going on. We

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Speaker 1: know we bombed Syria and anyway, so New York today

453
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Speaker 1: had a big, big hearing. Stormy Daniels was in their

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels attorney was in there, and I guess that

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen had to list the people that we're that

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Speaker 1: he's done some work with or whatever. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the full thing was that actually went on there.

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Speaker 1: So I've known Michael a long long time, and let

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Speaker 1: me be very clear to the media, Michael never represented

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Speaker 1: me in any matter. I never retained him in the

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Speaker 1: in the traditional senses retaining a lawyer. I never received

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Speaker 1: an invoice from Michael. I never paid legal fees to Michael,

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Speaker 1: but I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about

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Speaker 1: legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective,

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Speaker 1: and I assume that those conversations were attorney client confidential. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But and the other thing I will I will need

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Speaker 1: to point out to the media that is apparently going

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Speaker 1: insane over this. Not one of any issue I ever

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Speaker 1: dealt with Michael cone on ever ever involved a matter

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Speaker 1: between me and any third party. Now, I have eight

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Speaker 1: attorneys that I use for varying things in my life,

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Speaker 1: and in this particular case, you know, I like to

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Speaker 1: have people that I can run questions by, and Michael

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Speaker 1: very generously would give me his time and we'd always

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Speaker 1: say okay, attorney client, yeah good, okay good, and I'd

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Speaker 1: ask him a legal question and that's it. And um,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: that is that complicated. How did this blow up to

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Speaker 1: be such a big deal. I never had any case

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Speaker 1: with him and any involved any third party, none whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think the media is going insane with us?

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's think about it this way too, Shan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many attorneys do we have on the show?

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Speaker 1: I mean, expert upon expert. We bring people on the

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Speaker 1: show that are experts in their field, whether it's someone

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Speaker 1: like Alan Derschowitz, someone like David Shown, people who have

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Speaker 1: represented the A C L use of our liberties, whether

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Speaker 1: we're talking about people who are on our side of

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Speaker 1: the field, you know, and they want to defend certain

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Speaker 1: things that are happening for the GOP whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: We have varying experts on the show, and that's just

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Speaker 1: the way that it is. If you have a question

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Speaker 1: before you go on the air and you want to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: is this the right way to say this, or what's

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Speaker 1: the legal use for this? There's nothing wrong with that,

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Speaker 1: And for them to make it seem as if it's

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Speaker 1: something that it's not just shows their desperation to just

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Speaker 1: pull the narrative away from the good things that had

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Speaker 1: attorney client privilege because I asked him for that, and

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Speaker 1: you know, but he never sent me a bill or

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Speaker 1: an invoice or did I actually right, But they want

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Speaker 1: to make it seem like it's something nefarious. There's nothing nefarious.

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Speaker 1: People retain attorneys all the time for all sorts of things,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a simple question, whether it's to find out

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Speaker 1: their their expertise on something, whether it's to find out

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Speaker 1: their advice on something. Hey, we definitely We definitely would

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Speaker 1: say attorney client when I would ask him something in

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Speaker 1: an illegal frame, but I never used it was never

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Speaker 1: used Michael in any case that involved any matter between

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Speaker 1: me and a third party. Ever. Right, it's you and Michael.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I tell you. Why they're going

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Speaker 1: nuts because they're assuming because I guess he did some

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Speaker 1: type of Um. I guess he did some type of

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Speaker 1: work for some Republican guys. So he's figuring out he

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Speaker 1: must have did a big settlement case for Hannity. That's

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Speaker 1: not No, that's not what happened ever involved with any

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Speaker 1: matter between me and any third party. That was no. Like,

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Speaker 1: for example, I have all sorts of lawyers, some of

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Speaker 1: which people would know their names. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: hilarious that you know I have fifteen million messages flying

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Speaker 1: in and emails flying in even as we speak. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know I have them too. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think that it just shows that Michael was doing

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Speaker 1: his due diligence and being totally thorough about anybody that

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Speaker 1: he might have had attorney client privilege with. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: in terms of anything of any significance, none, zero. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what else can you say except that. Okay. I never

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Speaker 1: gave him a retainer, never received an invoice, never paid

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Speaker 1: any any fees. You know, I might have handed him

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Speaker 1: ten bucks. I definitely want attorney client privilege on this

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Speaker 1: something like that. I requested that privilege with him. When

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Speaker 1: I would ask him, well, this just came up. What

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Speaker 1: do you think about this or what you think about that?

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Speaker 1: I assumed, and obviously he assumed, and he kept his

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Speaker 1: word that they were confidential on attorney client But I

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Speaker 1: never had any matter with him, between me and any

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Speaker 1: third party. How is it possible that NBC and ABC

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Speaker 1: goes absolutely and an MSNBC and CNN goes absolutely off

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Speaker 1: the rails over a simple thing like that. It's really unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: They are just trying to drive this Comey Mueller narrative

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Speaker 1: as far as they can take it, and they'll take

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Speaker 1: anybody down that they can with it. It doesn't the

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Speaker 1: truth is irrelevant anymore, attorney client privilege irrelevant, None of

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Speaker 1: it matters anymore. That's true, very sad. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable. Where are we living? You know what it is,

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Speaker 1: They're just they're always hoping for the worst, and when

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Speaker 1: it relates to any conservative we're just always hoping for

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Speaker 1: the worst they don't want. Yeah, but not for nothing, Sean.

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Speaker 1: In this particular situation, there's just there's nothing there. You know,

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Speaker 1: you asked the guy for advice, or you asked the

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Speaker 1: guy for his opinion, and you are his legal expertise,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. Here's here's a question for you. You

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Speaker 1: know me, and how many attorneys that you know of

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Speaker 1: that I have. I have contract attorneys. I have all

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Speaker 1: sorts of attorneys, tons of attorneys, and we use them

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis for your personal for your business,

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Speaker 1: for on air, for TV, for radio. It is infuriating

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Speaker 1: to watch this. It really is, all right, I appreciate it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I love this. Michael Cohen's mystery third client is Sean

560
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Speaker 1: Hannity and they're speculating. I'll put this this statement out. Uh. Look,

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen was never never represented me in any specific matter.

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Speaker 1: I never retained him, I never received an invoice, I

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00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: never paid legal fees. But I have occasionally had brief

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Speaker 1: discussions with him about legal questions about which I wanted

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Speaker 1: his input and perspective. That's it, And I assume those

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Speaker 1: conversations were confidential. But by the way, for those that

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Speaker 1: are running wild with their speculation. I want to be

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Speaker 1: absolutely clear they never involved any matter between me and

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Speaker 1: any third party. I'll deal with us more tonight when

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Speaker 1: we come back. Alan Dershowitz, maybe I'll hire him on

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Speaker 1: the phone. Maybe he can be my lawyer. I have

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Speaker 1: so many lawyers as it is. Anyway, eight nine one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, David Shoon also check in as we continue

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Speaker 1: on this busy Monday. You know what the good news

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Speaker 1: for him is in the Southern District, they can bring

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Speaker 1: Sessions back. He's not any longer recused when it comes

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Speaker 1: from the separate investigation in New York, because that's unrelated

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Speaker 1: to the Russia matter. And that gets sure. He recused

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Speaker 1: himself Sessions because he was a potential subject or witness

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Speaker 1: in the Russia investigation. New York is not about the

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Speaker 1: Russia investigation. It's about Cone, it's about pre presidential activities.

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Speaker 1: Sessions is the Attorney General of the United States. He's

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Speaker 1: back in charge of the investigation, not rosan Stein. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's Professor Allen Dershowitz who joins us now. Our to

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show eight nine f one seawan are toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone number if you want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the program. Professor, welcome back to the program. To

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Speaker 1: what extent could Sessions actually uh get back in this

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Speaker 1: and in what regard he should get back in it.

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Speaker 1: He's the Attorney General the United States. He's in charge

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Speaker 1: of all cases except those in which he is formally recused. Now,

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Speaker 1: he's never recused himself, nor should he be recused from

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Speaker 1: the investigations that are occurring if they're occurring in the

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Speaker 1: Southern District of New York because they all involve pre

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Speaker 1: presidential activities. They're not part of the Russia probe. He's

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Speaker 1: not a potential subject of that. He's not a potential witness.

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Speaker 1: And there's absolutely no reason why the Attorney generally United

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Speaker 1: States should relegate that part of his job to the

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Speaker 1: Deputy Attorney General. Um, they say they're separate, they're separate investigations.

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Speaker 1: If there are separate investigations, he's not refused from the

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Speaker 1: separate part of it in New York. That's that's pretty

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Speaker 1: fascinating in a new development. Let me ask a broad

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Speaker 1: question about what you thought of Comey's interview. There are

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Speaker 1: two things that really stan stood out in my mind. UH.

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Speaker 1: Issued Number one, remember the Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe said,

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Speaker 1: without the dossier, the Steele dossier, Uh, there wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been a FISA warrant application. That's number one. Also, we know,

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Speaker 1: as it relates to the FISA application that there are

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Speaker 1: certain laws, especially because you're talking about spying on Americans

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Speaker 1: and approving a warrant to spy on American there are

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Speaker 1: specific FBI protocols and specific laws as it as it

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Speaker 1: relates to the representation of evidence in a visor warrant

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Speaker 1: application process. If James Comey today last night still does

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Speaker 1: not know whether the veracity and truthfulness and never corroborated

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Speaker 1: what was in that we now know Clinton bought and

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Speaker 1: paid for dossier with put together by a foreign national

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Speaker 1: and using Russian sources. If they didn't verify it, and

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Speaker 1: if they didn't corroborate it, and they allowed it to

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Speaker 1: be presented before the vis a judge and they never

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Speaker 1: told the judge. They knew who paid for it, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't tell the judge who paid for it, isn't

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Speaker 1: that misrepresentation to a judge? I think it is. And

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Speaker 1: I think that Stepanopolos asked him that question very directly.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think that the president had the right to

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Speaker 1: know who paid for the president? They didn't ask about

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Speaker 1: the Visa Court judge. They got the war in three

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Speaker 1: months before. Now, think about this. In January, Professor James

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Speaker 1: Comy told President elect Trump that it was salacious and

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Speaker 1: it was unverified, and he never told he never told

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Speaker 1: the President elect the source. But in October, just weeks

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Speaker 1: before or the election, the FISA Court was presented that dossier.

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Speaker 1: The Grassy Graham memo says, the bulk of the application

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Speaker 1: was the Steel dossier, and they presented it to the

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Speaker 1: judge and they didn't tell the judge where it came from,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't verify what was in the dossier, which

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Speaker 1: most of which turned out to be false. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you have the director that it is a problem, the

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Speaker 1: director of the FBI himself saying today today, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure it's possible. First of all, what is the director

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Speaker 1: the FBI going around peddling these kinds of sealationoust rumors

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Speaker 1: on international television without knowing whether they're true or not. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he could have just as easily said I

644
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Speaker 1: have seen no evidence in any way to validate the

645
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Speaker 1: allegations what I call the leak leak, the stuff about

646
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Speaker 1: you know, beds in urination. I've seen no evidence to

647
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Speaker 1: support that. And he should have said the same thing

648
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Speaker 1: about other issues, uh, whether the Russians him over a barrel.

649
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: He should have said, I have seen no evidence to

650
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Speaker 1: support that, instead of saying, well, it's possible, anything possible.

651
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Speaker 1: It's possible, maybe it's not likely. I wouldn't have said

652
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Speaker 1: it about another president, but I'm going to say it

653
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: about him. No, he's just engaging such speculation that's so

654
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Speaker 1: unsuitable for a former director of the FBI who's supposed

655
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Speaker 1: to go on facts, fact facts. But yesterday it was very,

656
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Speaker 1: very disappointing to hear him speculate, and always the speculation

657
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: is against the president. Can I dig deeper inside your

658
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: legal mind for a better answer on that? And in

659
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Speaker 1: this sense, because you're right, Comey said a new standard,

660
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Speaker 1: it might be possible. The problem is is that was

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Speaker 1: the very information, the bulk of information, according to the

662
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Speaker 1: Grassly Graham Memo, that was used to obtain a FISA

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Speaker 1: warrant to spy on an American citizen, and if they

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Speaker 1: didn't verify it, which which has mandated both law and protocol,

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Speaker 1: was a crime potentially committed there. Well, before we get

666
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Speaker 1: to the crime, I just want all your listeners to

667
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: ask themselves a question. If somebody was trying to intrude

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Speaker 1: into your most personal computers, your conversations with your doctor

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Speaker 1: or priest, your rabbi, your wife, your lawyer, would it

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Speaker 1: would it satisfy you to know that the criteria were well,

671
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Speaker 1: it might be possible. It's unlikely, but it might be possible,

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Speaker 1: because that's the criteria that seems to have been used

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Speaker 1: to get the FIS a warrant. Now you know whether

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Speaker 1: that's a crime. As you know, I don't like to

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Speaker 1: make things crime unless they're clearly established by the criminal law.

676
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Speaker 1: But it's certainly worthy of much further investigation. Asked the

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Speaker 1: question another way. Because you're so good at you you're

678
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Speaker 1: such a good criminal defense attorney. Everything worked, everything in

679
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: your mind works its way through the prism of how

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Speaker 1: do you defend this um on all sides? By the way,

681
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Speaker 1: not not just one side, but if if you were

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Speaker 1: the person that was being spied on, and you've found

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Speaker 1: out that the FBI presented to the court unverified, uncorroborated,

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Speaker 1: and now even some proven true information. That was the

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Speaker 1: basis of their application to get that warrant against you,

686
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Speaker 1: and it was done by, say, an arch enemy of yours,

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Speaker 1: and they never told the court that it was tainted

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Speaker 1: by by prejudice in that way. I have a funny feeling,

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Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz. The person would go apoplectic about the violation

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Speaker 1: of civil liberties based on unverified information, of course, and

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Speaker 1: so would the c O. You if the person who

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Speaker 1: is being targeted with Hillary Clinton or a liberal Democrat,

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Speaker 1: but if it's you know, you're consistent, you would do

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Speaker 1: it for anybody. Yeah, yeah, you know. It's so disappointing

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Speaker 1: because I thought well of of Comy. I met him

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Speaker 1: a few times, he came to Harvard. He's spoken classes,

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Speaker 1: you know, he speaks very well. He made a generally

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Speaker 1: good impression, I thought yesterday. But the thing that most

699
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Speaker 1: stood after me as pack of courage. Here's a man

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Speaker 1: who's supposed to be the chief law enforcement officer, and

701
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Speaker 1: he's hiding behind a curtain, trying to get his blue

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Speaker 1: suit to match the curtains so he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: confront the President. The president says, will you beat loyal?

704
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Speaker 1: He says, I'll be loyally honest or honestly loyal. And

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Speaker 1: now in front of the television cameras, he's perfectly prepared

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Speaker 1: to stand up to the President because he's no longer

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Speaker 1: working for him. But he had no courage, no guts.

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Speaker 1: As I said this morning on on Fox and Friends,

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Speaker 1: when I speak to any president, whether it was Clinton,

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Speaker 1: whether it be Obama, whether it be President Trump, any president,

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Speaker 1: I tell him what I think. And that's why I

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Speaker 1: think they value my insights. I'm not gonna say yes

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Speaker 1: or yes or yes or and being yes man. And

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Speaker 1: to have the head of the FBI not have the

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Speaker 1: courage of his convictions. When he wants to talk to

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, he leaks it through a law

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Speaker 1: professor because he was afraid to confront the journalists on

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Speaker 1: his front lawn because they might be upset that he

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Speaker 1: was giving it to one journal rather than another journalists. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that really takes courage to have to stand up to

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Speaker 1: a couple of journalists and say, sorry, I gave it

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Speaker 1: to the New York Times. Next time I'll give it

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Speaker 1: to you. I know how strongly you feel about the

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Speaker 1: criminalization of political differences, But sometimes there are politicians that

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Speaker 1: commit crimes. UM, no question about that, all right. So,

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Speaker 1: for example, eighteen USC seven nine talks about the mishandling

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Speaker 1: and destruction of CLASSIFY top secret special access programming information. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that goes to the heart of the email server

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Speaker 1: in a mom and pop shop that Hillary Clinton had

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Speaker 1: put up that we now know that foreign intelligence agencies

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Speaker 1: were able to hack into. And if I did that,

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Speaker 1: I think I'd be in trouble. But more importantly, once

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Speaker 1: those emails of hers were subpoenaed and she deleted thirty

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Speaker 1: three thousand of them, and then she blew out the

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Speaker 1: hard drive by acid washing it with bleach bit and

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Speaker 1: then had her employees beating up her devices with mers.

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Speaker 1: And I know, I don't think I'm making a a

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Speaker 1: I'm not criminalizing a political difference here. I'm stating a fact.

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Speaker 1: I think that if Sean Hannity did it, or Professor

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Speaker 1: Dershowitz took subpoena subpoena and information like this and you

741
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Speaker 1: acted that way, you would be in criminal trouble. Well,

742
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Speaker 1: I mean, the question is how many of those facts

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Speaker 1: are actually provable beyond a reasonable doubt everyone. They're also true.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't career people in the Justice Department come to

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Speaker 1: that conclusion. What happened in the end is that Comey

746
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Speaker 1: announced that there was uh, you know, serious negligence, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't rise to the level where other people, in fact,

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Speaker 1: have been prosecuted for this that had been Republicans also

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Speaker 1: had um email servers at home. But you know, if

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Speaker 1: all your facts are correct about the acid washing and

751
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Speaker 1: the destroying of that, that deserves being looked into, not

752
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Speaker 1: by a special counsel. I don't like special counsel, but

753
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: Justice Department, State Department should be able to look into it.

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Speaker 1: They expect the Inspector General report. Yeah, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to whitewash anybody. Well, then it gets into James Comey

756
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Speaker 1: in May. Often he and Peter Struck, who we know

757
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Speaker 1: as a personal vendetta against the president, and we know

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Speaker 1: they're the two that were writing the exoneration of Hillary,

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Speaker 1: and they were writing it before they interviewed horror seventeen

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Speaker 1: other key witnesses. And to me, that's that's the exact

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Speaker 1: opposite the way an investigation is supposed to go. We

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Speaker 1: know that he originally one of the original drafts that

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Speaker 1: he used the legal term um as it relates to

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Speaker 1: mishandling classified stream careless point. Let me give you the

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Speaker 1: headline for today's show. UM. So, what Comy said yesterday

766
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Speaker 1: about how they conduct investigations is the best argument why

767
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Donald Trump should not have to testify, because what he

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Speaker 1: said was, we already knew the results of our investigation

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Speaker 1: of Clinton. The only reason basically for questioning hers to

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Speaker 1: see whether she's gonna lie or not. That's called a

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Speaker 1: perjury trap. And if they pursued the same investigatory tactics,

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Speaker 1: they already known that Donald Trump is not guilty of

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Speaker 1: any sort of collusion. They already known he's not guilty

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Speaker 1: of the instruction of justice, and the only reason they

775
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Speaker 1: want him to testify now is to put him in

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Speaker 1: a perjury trap. So I think what Comey said yesterday

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Speaker 1: describing why they were able to write the exoneration letter

778
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Speaker 1: and not wait until Hillary Clinton testified, is the perfect

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Speaker 1: reason why Donald Trump doesn't have to now testify. It's interesting,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's gonna happen where you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look under James Comey's watch, because he likes

782
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Speaker 1: to hold himself up as kind of a holier than

783
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: that type of guy. And but look what happened with

784
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Speaker 1: his deputy director three times lying on lying want two

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Speaker 1: times under oath. Look at all the people that have

786
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Speaker 1: been demoted. Look at Bruce and Nelly or in their

787
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Speaker 1: connection of Fusion GPS and meetings with Glenn Simpson of

788
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Speaker 1: Fusion GPS. Glenn Simpson had did he never verified any

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Speaker 1: of the information in the dossier. Um Nelly helped write

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Speaker 1: that dossier working for Fusion GPS. Then you've got Lisa

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Speaker 1: Struck and a Lisa Page and Peter Struck and you

792
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: got then you've got the Attorney General does this weird

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Speaker 1: ominous whatever we don't know about Loretta Lynch comment that

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Speaker 1: that Comy makes what did you make of that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you the best part of Comy's statement,

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Speaker 1: the one I agreed with, as he said he was

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00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: against impeachment, that this is something the public ought to

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Speaker 1: decide in the next election. And that's what I think

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Speaker 1: generally these issues where they should be decided, they should

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Speaker 1: be decided at the ballot box, not in the jury box.

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Speaker 1: There should be investigations. No one is about the law.

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00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: By the way, when people say no one is about

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Speaker 1: the law. They forget that Prosecutors can't be sued, Judges

804
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: can't be sued, Senators and congressmen can't be prosecuted for

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Speaker 1: what they do, going to the senator being in the

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00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: House of Representatives. So there are officials in our government

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Speaker 1: that are not within the same rules of law that

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Speaker 1: the rest of us who within. That doesn't put them

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00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: above the law. That just says the law gives them

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Speaker 1: special breathing rooms so that they can perform their function.

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Speaker 1: The president too has that greeting room, which is why

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Speaker 1: he can't be charged with obstruction of justice simply performing

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Speaker 1: his constitutionally authorized acts. Let me let me just ask

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Speaker 1: one thing, where does this all end here and what

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Speaker 1: should the president be doing? The President, I don't believe

816
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: has much to worry about in terms of Mueller. I

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00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: think Mueller will not find obstruction of justice. He will

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Speaker 1: not find illegal acts relating to Russia. Um if he

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Speaker 1: were to find any such charges, that would create a

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Speaker 1: constitutional crisis, and the vast majority of Americans I think

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Speaker 1: would stand behind the president on that. Where his real

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Speaker 1: concerns should be focused is on his pre presidential activities

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Speaker 1: as a businessperson or if he did settle any matters

824
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Speaker 1: with women. He denies that, but that's where he doesn't

825
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: get the kind of constitutional protection he gets under Article too.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Bill Clinton ultimately fell the NFL. It

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Speaker 1: was impeached because of his testimony regarding something that happened

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Speaker 1: before he was president. And his special counsel was investigating Whitewater,

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Speaker 1: which happened before he was president. So it's the pre

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Speaker 1: presidential activities that should be focused on it. He should

831
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Speaker 1: make sure he builds a very very good legal team

832
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Speaker 1: to protect his interest in the Southern District of New

833
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Speaker 1: York and in front of the state Attorney General because

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Speaker 1: the state attorney general there were ever to be charges there.

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Speaker 1: President can't pardon anybody. He has no control over the

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Speaker 1: state legal system. All right, we appreciate your time, Professor

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Speaker 1: Allen Dershowitz. Thank you. A short time ago, I ordered

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Speaker 1: the United States Armed Forces to launch precision strikes on

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Speaker 1: targets associated with the chemical weapons capabilities of Syrian dictator

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Speaker 1: Forshar al Assad. A combined operation with the armed forces

841
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Speaker 1: of France and the United Kingdom is now underway. We

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00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: thank them both. Tonight, I want to speak with you

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Speaker 1: about why we have taken this action. One year ago,

844
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Speaker 1: Assad launched a savage chemical weapons attack against his own

845
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Speaker 1: innocent people. The United States responded with fifty eight missile

846
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Speaker 1: strikes that destroyed of the Syrian air force. Last Saturday,

847
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Speaker 1: the Assad regime again deployed chemical weapons to slaughter innocent civilians,

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Speaker 1: this time in the town of Dorma, near the Syrian

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Speaker 1: capital of Damascus. This massacre was a significant escalation in

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Speaker 1: a pattern of chemical weapons used by that very terrible regime.

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Speaker 1: The evil and the despicable attack left mothers and fathers

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Speaker 1: infantentialdren thrashing pain, and gasping for air. These are not

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Speaker 1: the actions of a man. They are crimes of a

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Speaker 1: monster instead. The Secretary was just a couple of days

855
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Speaker 1: ago that you said, you're still assessing the intelligence on

856
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: the chemical weapons attacks aspected attack. So at this point

857
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Speaker 1: do you know what the chemical was used in that attack?

858
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Speaker 1: Was it Sarah? Was a chlorine? And also, what is

859
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: your evidence it was actually delivered by the Syrian regime?

860
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Speaker 1: Said the last part, again, touch your evidence it was

861
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Speaker 1: delivered by the Syrian regime. Are you quite clear it was?

862
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: I am confident the Syrian regime conducted a chemical attack

863
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: on innocent people uh in in this last last week. Yes,

864
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: absolutely confident of it, and we have the intelligence level

865
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: of confidence that we needed to conduct the attack. To

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Speaker 1: your decisions, to the concern about escalation with Russia affect

867
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Speaker 1: your decision to keep this more targeted and moving from there,

868
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: how much assurance can you give us that this is

869
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: going to do what the strike last year didn't do,

870
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Speaker 1: which is basically the stop President assot from from using

871
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: chemical weapons again. And nothing is certain in uh in

872
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: these kinds of matters. However, we used a little over

873
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: double the number of weapons this year that we use

874
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: last year. UH. It was done on targets that we

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Speaker 1: believed were selective UH to hurt the chemical weapons program.

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Speaker 1: We can find it to the chemical weapons type targets.

877
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: We were not out to expand this. We were very

878
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: precise and proportionate. But at the same time it was

879
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: a heavy strike, all right. That was the President Friday

880
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: night and General Madness speaking about uh the competence that

881
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: he had that in fact it was the Syrian regime

882
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: that conducted the chemical attack. There were a hundred five

883
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: missiles fired in total, all one and five hit their mark.

884
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: UH as the President was very clear in saying that

885
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: these were precision strikes that were associated with the chemical

886
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: weapons capability of the Syrian dictator Assad, and it was

887
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Speaker 1: accommodation with armed forces of France and the United Kingdom,

888
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: And he gave a long explanation to following the horrors

889
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: of World War One, you know, civilized nations did join

890
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Speaker 1: together to banned chemical warfare, and chemical weapons are uniquely dangerous,

891
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: not only because they inflict gruesome suffering, but because small

892
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Speaker 1: amounts unleash widespread devastation. And the purpose of the actions

893
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: on Friday night were to establish a strong deterrent that

894
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: the world is not going to sit idly by when

895
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: these weapons are being used. And the President was clear,

896
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: this isn't about nation building. This is a particular action

897
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: based on the particular cruelty and evil of these specific

898
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Speaker 1: weapons that we're talking about here. And I think the

899
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: President was right. It was amazing. A lot of a

900
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: lot of conservatives didn't want the action, but I guess

901
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: after Iraq, a lot of people are skeptical number one,

902
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: about whether or not in fact that we know Assad

903
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: has used these weapons in the past. But more importantly,

904
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get bogged down in some type of civil

905
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: war in Syria. The President has been clear he's not

906
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: following that path anyway, joining us now. Colonel Oliver North

907
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: host The War Story The War Stories on the Fox

908
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: News Channel Fox Business Network. How are you, sir, I'm

909
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: glad to be with you, brother, How are you? I'm good.

910
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: You know. For all the talk about James Coomy and

911
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: how Vladimir Putin probably has compromised information on the President,

912
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I think that probably Putin by now, with all the

913
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: actions President Trump has taken, would have dumped whatever he

914
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: had because he's not exactly the biggest fan of Donald Trump. Well, look,

915
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: this whole thing is a distraction from what's really important

916
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: in the world. I mean, right now, we've got a

917
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: country called Syria, it's a totally failed state, uh, using

918
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: chemical weapons against the people, and that presses universally come

919
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: out against the president doing it without constant consultations with Congress.

920
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: You have this, uh, I guess biography or whatever it is.

921
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: It's out there as a total distraction from the really

922
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: important stuff of what's going on in the world. And

923
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: I feel for the President because apparently there's very few

924
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: people left in our media who understood what happened back

925
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: when Ronald Reagan was president. I happened to there have

926
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Speaker 1: been part of all of that when I look at

927
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: the the raid that was conducted in nine In fact,

928
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: it was today, thirty two years ago that Ronald Reagan

929
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: went live on national television and told me marpe people

930
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: about seven pm at night, two hours earlier than the

931
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: president for the President Trump announced what we've done, and

932
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: the press went nuts because he didn't notify convass beforehand.

933
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: In other words, he was acting in an unconstitutional manner.

934
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: On point of fact, he had notified two people, the

935
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader, minutes

936
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: before the raid went It's too late for them to

937
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: go out and clear the deal and announce it to

938
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: the world. And I don't blame the President did for

939
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: not announcing before end of Congress what he was gonna do.

940
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: We'd still be debating it in Congress. Either the nation

941
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: is threatened by the idea of nucle of excuse me,

942
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction being used, or it's not. And

943
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I happen to believe it's an existential threat to the country.

944
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: Clearly the President believe that it's in the national security

945
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: interests in the United States to act, act quickly, act proportionally,

946
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: and with great accuracy. And then they criticized him for

947
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: saying mission accomplished. But let me just let me just

948
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: describe the mission that I know of where I got

949
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: an Ada boid for mission accomplished. In May of nineteen

950
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: sixty nine, I was ordered to take fourteen othern Marines

951
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: with no more, no less, into the demilitarized zone the

952
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: separated North and South Vietnam. The mission was to capture

953
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: an enemy soldier. We did. We came back out captured

954
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese Army soldier proven to the people at

955
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: the Paris peace talks that the North Vietnamese on the

956
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: southern half of the d n Z. And I got

957
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: an Ada boy from the Community General of excuse me.

958
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: Second was actually Third Marine Division, an Atta boy that said,

959
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: well done, mission accomplished. It didn't end the war in

960
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: fact the world at all badly. But the fact is

961
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: my unit accomplished the mission. And that's exactly what happened

962
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: in this case. Sean, I'm stunned by the inability, first

963
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: of all, of anybody in our in our so called media.

964
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: Do you even know anything about history. And when Ronald

965
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: Reagan did exactly the same thing the President Trump did,

966
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: the media want nuts too. And you know what, that

967
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: was replicated under Barack Obama when he launched the first

968
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: American strikes into Libya against the same new mar Gadaffi.

969
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: The press didn't go crazy then. All they did was

970
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: pointing out that the constitution allowed that that kind of

971
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: latitude to the the committed in chief. So how is

972
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: it You've got this double standard of the law which

973
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: allows the attorney client privilege to be wiped out, this

974
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: double standard of the constitution which defines what the president

975
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: can and cannot do, and this double standard of what

976
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: drives people nuts when the president says the words mission

977
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: accomplishment was accomplished exactly the exactly what he wanted with

978
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: pinpoint accuracy, which is amazing. You know, I I have

979
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: in my own mind, I've had to reconfigure putting American

980
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: troops on the grounds and a lot of these conflicts. Look,

981
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: you fought in Vietnam, we lost fifty eight thousand soldiers,

982
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: The war becomes politicized, and in essence we pull out

983
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: without full victory. In Vietnam, the same thing could be

984
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: said about Iraq. Everybody thought it was the right idea,

985
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: go to Iraq. We toppled uh Saddam Hussein. We eventually

986
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: find him in a spider hole somewhere. But the reality

987
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: is is that these wars now become politicized, and I

988
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: don't think politically American the American people have the stomach

989
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: to see them through. And if that's the case, I

990
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: don't think one American soldier should die for a war

991
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: that's eventually gonna we're gonna eventually pull out of. I

992
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: don't think one soldier should lose. You lose an arm

993
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: and a leg. I don't know when we got to

994
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: the point where we don't fight wars to win them anymore,

995
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: and we put rules of engagement that are so dire

996
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: on our own troops that they're risking their lives because

997
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: just hiding whether or not they can shoot back. Well.

998
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: And that's precisely why the President did what he did

999
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: last week against the regime in Syria. I mean, he

1000
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: did not want to widen the war. He has no

1001
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: intention of sending tens of thousands of troops. We have

1002
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: two thousand American troops on the ground in northeastern Syria.

1003
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: They're there to help the Kurds defeat Isis. They're going

1004
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: to stay there until they defeat Isis. He's not about

1005
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: to put fifty thousand, sixty thousand, hundred thousand troops in

1006
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: the Syria. And that's why he limited the scope of

1007
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: this attack. And I was just reading just before we

1008
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: came on is the press saying that Jim Mattis talked

1009
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: him out of a greater uh more lethal attack when

1010
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: we did the attack on Libya back in nineteen eighty six,

1011
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: thirty two years ago. Today, the president was given a

1012
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: list of options of how they how the attack ad

1013
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Go could have involved a lot more up the one elevens.

1014
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: It could have involved a lot more aircraft off the

1015
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: Navy carriers, but the factors, the President chose the option.

1016
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: It was not going to take us in the war,

1017
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: but it was going to be or Leumar Gadaffi from

1018
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: conducting any more terrorist attacks like the woman he'd done

1019
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: in Burlin on the fifth of April. And it took

1020
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: us ten days to come up with the targets. It

1021
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: took seven days in this case. Look at our intelligence

1022
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: is better the targets we'd find, the accuracy the weapons

1023
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: was better, and it was designed to deter and keep

1024
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: or prevent and deter the kinds of attack that this

1025
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: guy has been launching against his own people with chemical weapons.

1026
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: And I just it stuns me that the media is

1027
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: that flying like the Dickens, and so are the liberals

1028
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: up on Capitol and the so called professors progressive trying

1029
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: to make this and do a political issue rather than

1030
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: at a bloyd for the US military that had contributed

1031
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: to this and made it all happen, and commendations for

1032
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: the president to sit down and look at the options

1033
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: and say that's the one we're gonna do. And they

1034
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: carried it out flawlessly. You know, I was reading and

1035
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: this is something you'd appreciate, and with the advanced weaponry

1036
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: that you know, we have been able to deliver and build.

1037
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, this cruise missile attack on Syria or to

1038
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: Friday night, including air to surface missiles equipped with newly

1039
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: developed stealth missile guidance technology, which targeted Series main chemical

1040
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: weapons development site. And it's a product of Lockheed martin

1041
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: In in Troy, Alabama. The joint air to surface standoff

1042
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: missiles or as they call them, have a low radar

1043
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: cross section. It makes them difficult to detect. Their designed

1044
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: to penetrate as far as two hundred miles into an

1045
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: adversary's territory. The extended version fired late Friday night. They

1046
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: can fly more than five miles and every one of

1047
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: them hit their target. Colonel, that is an amazing success.

1048
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't leave out Racion, which still all of

1049
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: those standard cruise missiles at tm cs that were launched

1050
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: out of this out of the ships let's sea. And Okay,

1051
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: the rac and technology, by the way, is the same

1052
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: stuff that's in the British and the French missiles. The

1053
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: Western world has so far left beyond the bounds of

1054
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: where we were ten years ago, either into the technology

1055
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: that's there and the h SR, the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance,

1056
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: because they're all of that added to the accuracy of

1057
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: this mission and the effectiveness of it. And I'm just

1058
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: stunned at the where our media is just going. And

1059
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: it's all I aimed at the president. This this president,

1060
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: this president walked across the Potomac River. The Washington Post

1061
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: would say that president can't swim. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Right,

1062
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: As we continue with Colonel Oliver North. Colonel by the way,

1063
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: I didn't notice you're taking a trip to Normandy with

1064
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of our friends from the Freedom Alliance. What

1065
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: are you doing that? Well, it's coming up in in August.

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Speaker 1: It's a seven day riverboat cruise from Paris to Normandy,

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Speaker 1: one the most significant places in military history. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: show everybody aboard how these remarkable Americans changed the course

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Speaker 1: of history. Where Ronald Reagan paid the tribute to the

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Speaker 1: boards of poldooc in in. I'll tell you what and

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Speaker 1: for me, it was a very powerful experience. You and

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Speaker 1: I have been there a bunch of times, but this

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Speaker 1: is a very powerful experience because I get to be

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Speaker 1: to these kinds of people every day. And I'm hope

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Speaker 1: and that there's some folks that they simply go to

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Alliance website. Uh, that's Freedom Alliance dot org,

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Speaker 1: slash cruise or call eight seven seven eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: seventy six sixty two and as Rollin's crews to normally

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Speaker 1: join us, because it's going to be a great experience. Now,

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Speaker 1: can we get back. Let me let me just describe

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Speaker 1: to our listeners. Everybody knows a little bit about normandy,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through all of this stuff on normally.

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Speaker 1: Here's what the planners went through in seven days, a

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Speaker 1: planning cell of which I was apart back forty two

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Speaker 1: years ago, picking targets. Meanwhile, they deployed tankers, search and rescue,

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Speaker 1: arrange for abortion aboard basis for damaged aircraft. They used

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Speaker 1: use of the B one aircraft and the potential for

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Speaker 1: using the B two meant that they had to place

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Speaker 1: places for them to refuel and rearm in the region.

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Speaker 1: It means Cyprus, Jordan's, Israel, Turkey. Uh, you had arrange

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Speaker 1: for the diplomatic approval, colonel all all the all the

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Speaker 1: countries that join us and get the French in the

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Speaker 1: in the British to join us in the the French

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Speaker 1: abandoned us this time they joined us. Kudos to the President.

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Speaker 1: The team over's kind of gone to do it all right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Colonel Oliver North eight D nine one, Sean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program,

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Speaker 1: all right, with all all the new developments, Comey's uh

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Speaker 1: interview last night. If you really paid attention, all he

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Speaker 1: did was a cut and paste of what his testimony

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Speaker 1: was and just build up even bigger the interview with

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Speaker 1: uh that he added in the few meetings he had

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. It's absolutely pathetic that that became a book.

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Speaker 1: Is he in legal jeopardy? Will check in with David

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Speaker 1: Shon and Sarah Carter investigative reporter straight ahead? Why if

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Speaker 1: this was salacious and this particular part of the s unverified,

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Speaker 1: still unverified by the way, yes, so far as when

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Speaker 1: I got fired it was unverified. Did you tell him

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Speaker 1: that the steel doc he had been financed by his

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Speaker 1: political opponents? But did he have a right to know

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Speaker 1: that that had been financed by his political opponents? I

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Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. It wasn't necessary for

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Speaker 1: my goal, which is to alert him that we had

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Speaker 1: this information. I had a flashback to my days investigating

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Speaker 1: the mafia Locosa Nostra decades earlier, Comy learned about Lakos

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Speaker 1: a Nostra our thing in Italian as the U S

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Speaker 1: attorney prosecuting the Gambino crime family headed by John Gotti

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Speaker 1: gating the mafia. A man is measured by the strength

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Speaker 1: of his loyalty. There's a distinction between a friend of

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Speaker 1: yours and a friend of ours. I felt this effort

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Speaker 1: to make us all And maybe this wasn't their intention,

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Speaker 1: but it's the way it felt to me, to make

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Speaker 1: us all a Mican nostra. We're all part of the messaging.

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Speaker 1: We're all part of the effort. The bosses at the

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Speaker 1: head of the table, we're going to figure out together

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Speaker 1: how to do this. How strange is it for you

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Speaker 1: to sit here and compare the president to a mob boss.

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Speaker 1: Very strange, And I don't do it lightly, And I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to buy that, by the way, suggest that

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Speaker 1: President Trump outbreaking legs and shaking down shopkeepers. But instead,

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is that leadership culture constantly comes

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Speaker 1: back to me when I think about my experience with

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Critics say the fix was in from

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Speaker 1: the start. President Trump says, you were writing through the

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Speaker 1: conclusion even before you interviewed Hillary Clinton. That is just wrong.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who's actually done investigations knows that if you've been

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Speaker 1: investigating something for almost a year and you don't have

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Speaker 1: a general sense of where it's likely to end up,

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Speaker 1: you should be fired because you're incompetent. That was from

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Speaker 1: the special last Night News round Up Information Overload. Our

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Speaker 1: here on the Sean Hannity Show. Right down our toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone number. We'd love to hear from you today.

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Speaker 1: It's eight nine one, Shawn, if you want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. Uh. For me, it comes

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Speaker 1: down to some basic simple fundamentals here. Uh, that the

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Speaker 1: media is just missing, and they're missing spectacularly. And this

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Speaker 1: is not that complicated. And you know, did Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: break the law when she mishandled and later destroyed top

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Speaker 1: secret classified Special Access Program information? Did Hillary Clinton obstruct

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Speaker 1: justice when she deleted thirty three thousand subpoenab emails and

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Speaker 1: acid washed the hard drive and broke up her devices?

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Speaker 1: You know, is that something that other people would be

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Speaker 1: prosecuted for? I think the answer is obvious and and

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Speaker 1: it's it's not that complicated. You know, just go to

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Speaker 1: eighteen USC seven nine three mishandling classified information. We know

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Speaker 1: exactly what they did here, you know, And you know,

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Speaker 1: to listen to an FBI director obsessed with the size

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Speaker 1: of the president's hands, his his total size, the thaie color,

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Speaker 1: the color of his skin and eyes. It gets bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Now it's even more spectacular here is Okay, Maybe he

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Speaker 1: didn't feel it was important to tell President elect Trump

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Speaker 1: that Hillary paid for that salacious, unverified dossier as he

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Speaker 1: described it in January of before Donald Trump was inaugurated,

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Speaker 1: but it was used as the basis the bulk of

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Speaker 1: information we are told by the Grassy Graham memo to

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Speaker 1: obtain a fizor warrant to spy on a Trump can

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Speaker 1: paign associate in the lead up to a presidential election.

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Speaker 1: So what he's basically admitting here is they didn't follow

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Speaker 1: the law and FBI protocols and do their job, and

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Speaker 1: they didn't vet and corroborate any of the information in

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Speaker 1: the dossier. And I think it's a very strange standard

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Speaker 1: that we now have. Well, it might be possible, that's

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Speaker 1: what he's telling us. It might be possible that was

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Speaker 1: presented to a vis A judge to get a warrant

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Speaker 1: to spy on an American. It might be possible. Is

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Speaker 1: not the standard anyway? Joining us now is criminal defense

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Speaker 1: attorney Uh friend of the program, A good friend. David

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Speaker 1: Shown is back with us. Also investigator reporter Fox News

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Speaker 1: contributor Sarah carter Um. Is there anything I'm missing here?

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Speaker 1: Isn't there? Part of the fis a law that says

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Speaker 1: that you have to only present truthful information, corroborated information,

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Speaker 1: verified information to affise a judge. And didn't they have

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Speaker 1: an obligation to inform those judges both in the initial

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Speaker 1: application three subsequent applications that in fact that in fact

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Speaker 1: Hillary had paid for this when they knew she paid

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Speaker 1: for it. Absolutely insanity. Um, that's a requirement in every

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Speaker 1: application every judicial officer agent is that a crime? Did

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Speaker 1: James Comey admit that that a crime was committed? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd have to hear the whole interview, I suppose,

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Speaker 1: But but he's running rough shot over the law. That's

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Speaker 1: for clear, And I have to point out that standard

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Speaker 1: is heightened, as you just said, for the Fisichord, for

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Speaker 1: good reason because it's the secret court. It's done X

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Speaker 1: part day as many applications are, but it's done X

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Speaker 1: party there with extraordinary Uh. He's he's admitting even today

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know it might be possible, meaning the truthfulness

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Speaker 1: in the dossier, most of it's been debunked. But if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know to day that had happened, how did

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Speaker 1: we get four pies and warrants? If that was the

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Speaker 1: bulk of information used to get the Phis warrants and

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Speaker 1: at a minimument the dereliction of duty. Um, he certainly

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Speaker 1: didn't fulfill his obligations or ensure that the obligations were

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Speaker 1: fulfilled by anyone else in it. And going back to

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Speaker 1: your earlier question, I think about whether he had an

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Speaker 1: obligation to UH tell him Mr Trump, Uh, he was

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Speaker 1: paid for by political opponents. Of course there's an obligation there.

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Speaker 1: You want to put all of the facts out. Would

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Speaker 1: anyone argue reasonably that that's not a relevant fact in

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Speaker 1: this equation? Well, I mean it's a very relevant fact.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sarah, this is something you broken March ofen

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Speaker 1: the whole story that Trump Tower had in fact been

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Speaker 1: wired tap or we've known this now for over a year.

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Speaker 1: Now we learn from the former deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.

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Speaker 1: He was the one that was quoted as saying that

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Speaker 1: without the dossier, that wouldn't have been a fies the application,

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Speaker 1: And now we're learning from Comey not only did they

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Speaker 1: not tell the eyes a court judge in the original

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Speaker 1: application and subsequent applications that in fact Hillary paid for

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Speaker 1: that information, but they never told the judge that this

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Speaker 1: information was unverified and never corroborated, and it was put

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Speaker 1: together by a foreign national h that used Russian and

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Speaker 1: Russian government sources to obtain it. It's incredible, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: And and the and the fact that Comy just so

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Speaker 1: callously in the in the interview admits that, you know,

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Speaker 1: even when he briefed President elect Trump on this, on

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Speaker 1: this dossier that's unverified, that's fallacious. Uh, that was actually

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Speaker 1: information that was the to the brief spy Christopher Steele

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Speaker 1: experienced spy by the Russians. He doesn't even tell him, Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what beyond me briefing you on this, this was

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Speaker 1: also paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign in the

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Speaker 1: d n C Sean. This is incredible. And you know

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Speaker 1: what David Shown brought up earlier is so important because

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Speaker 1: it is true the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance chord, you have

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Speaker 1: to have extraordinary evidence that in order to spy on someone,

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Speaker 1: and and they even they taken over this stassae which

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Speaker 1: hasn't even been verified, and then they don't have to

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Speaker 1: defend you. So it's like Carter Page. The FBI is

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Speaker 1: turning over all of this information which is unverified, to

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Speaker 1: the peign Intelligence Surveillance Court. They're withholding information and there's

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Speaker 1: nobody really there on behalf of the person that's being

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Speaker 1: spied on. In this case, Carter Page to fight back

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Speaker 1: and say, Okay, this is bogus, this is a complete lie.

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Speaker 1: Just ask me these questions or let my attorney present

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Speaker 1: you with some facts so that I can fight this,

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Speaker 1: so that you're not listening on my phone call, so

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Speaker 1: that you're not taking my emails. And I think what

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Speaker 1: we saw was extraordinary. If this is where our FBI,

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Speaker 1: UH and intelligence community is going with investigations, we should

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Speaker 1: be very concerned about this. Let me bring up something

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Speaker 1: else that made news by McClatchy, and they were suggesting that,

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Speaker 1: in fact, uh, the the president's personal attorney, Michael Cone,

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Speaker 1: may have in fact on to Prague and met somebody

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Speaker 1: from Russia. UH. But Michael Cone had said now publicly

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Speaker 1: that that is absolutely not true. He's never been to Prague,

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Speaker 1: he never met with any such official and saying that

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Speaker 1: he has proof that he was in Los Angeles at

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Speaker 1: the time with his son. What are we to make

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Speaker 1: of that, David, because it would be a big story

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Speaker 1: if in fact he had Remember he had tweeted out

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Speaker 1: a picture of his passport that had no entry point

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Speaker 1: into Prague anywhere at any at any time in the past. So, um,

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Speaker 1: is this just that? He said? She said, I gotta

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Speaker 1: believe it's something verifiable very quickly, isn't It can't be,

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Speaker 1: he said, He said, She said, I from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: I simply wish the lawyer would not have come out

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Speaker 1: with that public statement when I'd much prefer would be

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Speaker 1: to commit the Mueller team to that position, commit the

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Speaker 1: Muller team to a Dayton time which Michael Cohne was

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Speaker 1: in progue with Michael Cone holding the evidence to the

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Speaker 1: absolute it was not there that day. How badly would

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Speaker 1: that undermine the credibility of anything else that came out

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Speaker 1: of that investigation, since the Mueller team would have put

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Speaker 1: that forward as a highly material fact. If there's no

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Speaker 1: credibility to that, there's no credibility to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the allegations, arguably against Michael, Well, then who's leaking that

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Speaker 1: information to McClatchy. I mean, McClatchy is considered a news service,

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Speaker 1: aren't they? Absolutely? And one of the things I did

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Speaker 1: was I reached out to the Special Council and I

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01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: asked them specifically, Uh, you know this appears to be

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Speaker 1: coming from the Special Council or somebody closely connected to

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Speaker 1: the Special Council. Can you, for a fact, back up

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Speaker 1: the McClatchy story. Uh. They declined to comment. I asked

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Speaker 1: them again. I said, listen, either way this is a

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01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: big story. Either he was in Prague or he wasn't

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Speaker 1: in Prague. And if people from the Special Council are

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01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: leaking this information to specific news outlets, it would be

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01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: beneficial for all news outlets to know the truth now,

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Speaker 1: So somebody has to answer. And then, which they respectfully

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Speaker 1: declined to comment. Again, Well, we're not getting a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of information about them. I gotta take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll have more with Sarah Carter and

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Speaker 1: David Shone on the other side. All right, as we

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Speaker 1: continue with investigative reporter Sarah Carter and of course civil

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Speaker 1: and criminal rights attorney David Shone. All right, So, was

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Speaker 1: there anything Sarah as you were watching this whole thing

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Speaker 1: last night? To me, it's it's almost impossible that we

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Speaker 1: never got to the fact that Hillary paid a foreign national,

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele, for what turned out to be Russian lies

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Speaker 1: to manipulate the American public in a lead up to

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Speaker 1: a presidential election, and Comey never didn't know then and

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Speaker 1: doesn't know now if that information presented to the fives

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Speaker 1: accord is true. Where's the investigation into the mishandling of

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Speaker 1: that well? And where were the questions? Right? I mean,

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: this is a man who headed the FBI. I mean

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Speaker 1: this was his The buck stops at his desk, right,

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: and he was in charge of Obviously, this is an

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01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: investigation into the president elect, so he would and he

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: should know what's going on in this investigation. What about

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: Lisa Page and Peter Struck and their text messages back

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: and forth. What about beyond just to McCabe, the the

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Speaker 1: the enormous amount of evidence that the Inspector General of

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Michael Horowitz collected on him in his live What about

1313
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: the leadership? I mean, you want to talk about a

1314
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: higher authority and moral standing and being able to teach

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01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: an ethics class. What about the fact that you ran

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: an FBI division? I mean you ran You're the top

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: dog in the United States, You're the top sheriff, You're

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: the top guy, and your FBI was full of people

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 1: on the seventh floor that we're lying, people who have

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Speaker 1: been demoted, people who have been fired, people who are

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: mishandling an investigation. I mean, this is the real thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his narrative was that he's this very moral

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: guy and he's calling out the president on his character, when,

1324
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: if anything, he was but that. I mean, look at Tomey.

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Speaker 1: The very first impression he got a President Trump. The

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01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: very first thing he said was he made fun of

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: his hair, He made fun of his can Uh. He

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: talked about the way he looked. Uh. He sounded like

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01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: a jilted high school person that had just been dumped

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01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: by someone. He didn't sound like an authority from the

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Speaker 1: FBI who had any evidence whatsoever to target the president,

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Speaker 1: a duly elected president of the United States. And secondly, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I think what was most disturbing to me, really disturbing

1334
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: to me, is that he continued to pontificate and make

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: allegations against the president, not based on fat based on

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: his seeings and hearsay and disinformation. This is like a

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01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: really incredible disinformation campaign that was not only perpetuated by Comy,

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: but people like McCabe, Brennan Clapper, all of them making

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: allegations against a duly elected president without one shred of evidence,

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: without one shred of evidence at all. The Republican National

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: Committee has been ripping into Comey's comments during those TV

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: appearance and and I think that Sarah Davids has hit

1343
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: hit this pretty good and highlighted this. All of this

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: misconduct happened under his watch. Um and if you look

1345
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: at some of the things that he has said, Comy

1346
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 1: testified he'd never been asked to halt an investigation for

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: political reasons. Uh he said that, and the arms and

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: then he also said he admitted that when pressed that

1349
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: neither Trump nor his staff asked him to stop the

1350
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: Russia investigation. Comey said at the time the Trump asked

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01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: him to let this go, but that Trump did not

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: order him to do so. Uh So it's like, you know,

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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: Comey has kind of caught, you know, with these repeated

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: contradictions on big issues, and he leaves the impression that

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: bad things happened, but then contradicts him own self and

1356
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: backs off. It very sloppy work for a man who

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: has held notice positions, who we've put in those positions.

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: And I have to say, you're Carter has hit it

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: on the head once again. I really titty, Mr Comy

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: trying to take any higher moral ground with Sarah Carter

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Speaker 1: after from checking sex. Uh, and you Mr Hanny Um. Frankly,

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: it's a disgrace, Uh what Mr Comey is doing. Mr

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01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: Comey appears to be all about Mr Comey. Um. And

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Speaker 1: the country doesn't really seem to matter. The integrator of

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: the office doesn't seem to matter. This is a spectacle.

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01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be happening from someone who held the position.

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: It's about profit making, um and so on. But I

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Speaker 1: think last the interview, also know we have we have

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01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: short term history, short term memories about history. Should Mr

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: Stephanopolis really have been conducting that interview? You mean you

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Speaker 1: mean the guy that ran the Clinton war room and

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: the guy that used to be the press secretary for

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01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: the Clinton's that guy, that guy. Should that have been

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Speaker 1: the interviewer? Uh? No. In a short and short thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. We'll see you both on Hannity tonight.

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: We'll have full coverage with the media. Will never share

1377
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: with you the questions that should have been asked in

1378
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: last night's interview, that warrant will have that and the

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01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: inconsistencies of James Comy. That's all coming up. Nine Eastern

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: on Fox. Will take a quick break, we'll come back one.

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Speaker 1: Shawn is our number, and we'll get to your calls.

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01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: Coming up next. All right, busy, crazy, insane newsday as always,

1383
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: you got the madness at the court in downtown New

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01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: York City, Uh, Stormy Daniels, our attorney Michael Cone going

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: before the judge there. And of course this interview last

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01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: night with James Comey, you know, one of the things

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: and I expected this was gonna be the case because

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01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: we all knew and call me still, in my view,

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01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: has implicated himself in a legal matter, the idea that

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Speaker 1: that he knew that that dossier, which was not corroborated

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01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: or verified, was used to obtain a FIZE warrant to

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: spying an American citizen. They have a legal obligation to

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01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: do so, and he never did it. And I also

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: believe there's a pretty strong case that could be made

1395
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: about obstructing justice putting the fix in as it relates

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton, we really to believe that Struck in

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: page big Trump haters, that when Comey and Struck were

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: writing back and forth the varying versions of her exoneration

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01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 1: long before they interviewed her, and Peter Struck was the

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01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: one that got tapped to interview Hillary Clinton. We really

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: to believe that their feelings for Donald Trump didn't weigh

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: into this. I mean his revelation that um, his wife

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01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: and daughter attended the Women's March. I wonder it was

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01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: that the Women's March where madonnad was talking about blowing

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: up the White House? Is that the one said my

1406
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: girls marched in the Women's March the day after President

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01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: Trump's inauguration. I think that's the day. That's the day

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: where Ashley Judge is lost it on stage. And to

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01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: our detractors that insist that this march will never add

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01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: up to anything, thank you you, but this is the

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01:19:54,479 --> 01:20:02,520
Speaker 1: hallmark of revolution. Yes I'm angry, Yes I am outraged.

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: Yes I have thought an awful lot about blowing up

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01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: the White House. I am a nasty woman. I'm nasty,

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01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: like my blood stains on my bedsheets. We don't actually

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: choose if and when to have our periods. Believe me,

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01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: if we could, some of us would. We don't like

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01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: throwing away our favorite pairs of underpants. Tell me why

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: our tampons and pad still taxed when Viagra and roe

1419
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: Gain are not. Is your direction really more than protecting

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: the sacred, messy part of my womanhood? Is the blood

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01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: stain on my jeans more embarrassing than the sitting of

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01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: your hair. My wife and girls marched in the Women's

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Speaker 1: March the day after President Trump's inauguration. At least my

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01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: four daughters, probably all five of my kids wanted Hillary

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: Clinton to be the first woman president. I know my

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01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: amazing spouse did. I wanted a woman president really badly,

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01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: and I had supported Hillary Clinton. A lot of my

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01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: friends worked for her, and it's devastated when she lost.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, I guess it was that particular event. Eight

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01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: dying four one Shawn is a toll free telephone number.

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: Now you've got the FBI that James Comy is so

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01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: pure all the people that have been demoted, James Comey

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: was so absolutely perfect. That James Comey was the one

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01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: guy that, um, you know, dad did nothing wrong in

1435
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: all of this. He was he was pristine, impure, but

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: yet he knew that they never verified the the dossier

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01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: and they presented it and apes application anyway. And he's

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01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: the guy that watched thirty three thousand deleted email else

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01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: and acid wash them that was a poened and breaking

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01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 1: up devices, but that didn't in any way seem to

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01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: be a crime in James Comey's world. Anyway, One, Shawn

1442
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: is our number if you want to be a part

1443
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: of the program. All right, let's get to our busy telephones. Uh,

1444
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: let's say hi to h James and Phoenix, Arizona. James. Hi,

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01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: how are you? What's going on? Hi? Good afternoon. Thank

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01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: you Sean for taking my call, and I want to

1447
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: thank you for what you do. It's very much appreciated

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01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: to many of us. My question is simply this, the

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01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: fact that a fraudulent dossier was utilized to bring the investigation.

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01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: I just am curious as to to why everyone has

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01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: touched it, brought it to life and continued its life.

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Could not be considered a conspiracy to committee, insurrections, edition

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01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,839
Speaker 1: and treason because you're trying to unsee the lawfully seated president,

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01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: not to mention the involvement in trying to overthrow the election.

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01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: That's it, thank you. Well, That's exactly what it comes

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: down to, isn't it. Because they think they know better

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01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: than the American people, which is the saddest part of

1458
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: all of this deep state nonsense. Let's say hi to

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01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: Diane is in Illinois. Diane, Hi, how are you glad

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01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: you called? Oh, it's great to speak to you, San,

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01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan and and it's it's an honor

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01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Uh, there's an honor to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Thank you. Well. The reason why I called

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: is um It almost sounded like Comey was bragging that

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Speaker 1: his wife would never have believed any type of dossier's

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Speaker 1: story if he was involved in it, And I thought, well, yeah,

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01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, my husband has never ever given me any

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01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: type of reason to believe he would have participated. And

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01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 1: we've been married thirty or five years, but this was

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Speaker 1: the FBI knocking on the door and saying we can't

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Speaker 1: prove this isn't true. I think I would still look

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: at him and go, okay, dude, you know what's going on.

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01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: You've got anything to tell me here? Because the FBI

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: are supposed to be the good guys, the ones that

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: proved um, that saved people, and they tell the truth,

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01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: then you're you. They live on, they take care of everybody,

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01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: and and I would you know, even though we're married

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01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: that much, I would have been a little bit one

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01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: percent suspicious well, I'm gonna tell you something, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, if it's one percent that led

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01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: he's worried about Milanni, Now, why would you ask the

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Speaker 1: FBI director about one percent? You know what? And you said,

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Speaker 1: I want the truth that he's telling him it's not true.

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Speaker 1: And he said, look, even if she thinks one percent

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Speaker 1: of this is true, it's just can't we prove it false?

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Speaker 1: That sounds to me like an innocent guy. And for

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Speaker 1: Comey to use his his new standard that we have, well,

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Speaker 1: it might be possible. Okay, well, a lot of things

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Speaker 1: in life might be possible. But after all this time,

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Speaker 1: with no verification and the President acting against Russia as

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Speaker 1: harshly as he had, if he was compromised, as Comey

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Speaker 1: suggested last night, I don't think it would have happened.

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Speaker 1: You know, if they had compromising materials, it would have

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Speaker 1: been out a long time ago, now, right. And I

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01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: think the other thing is um as time has been

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Speaker 1: going on, we become more and more suspicious of news

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01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: and information that comes forward because so many, so much

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Speaker 1: has been proven false. So maybe in the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking a year or a year and a

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Speaker 1: half ago, you would go Holy Cow. And now I

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01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: look at everything with just a little bit of suspicion,

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: and I do a little bit more investigating to prove

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01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: it's right or not. And even if it is the

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01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:36,440
Speaker 1: FBI or the CIA or the police, and being everybody's

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01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: everybody's being held with a little bit of suspicion, regardless

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01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: of who they work for anymore. In my book, Yeah, well,

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01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something. People aren't doing the right

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01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,919
Speaker 1: thing in this and they're trying to deceive the American

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Speaker 1: people at a really high level. One, Shawn is our number.

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Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's say hi to Joel in Chester, New Jersey. What's up, Joel?

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Speaker 1: How are you very well? Seum, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: As you know, all d o J employees, including FBI personnel,

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Speaker 1: needs to be clear to publish books based on their work. Now.

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Speaker 1: Comy's book includes information about an ongoing investigation, as well

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Speaker 1: as notes from his meeting with President Trump, which is

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01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: government property, not his personal property. Now, reportedly, Comey says

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01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: that he gained FBI approval to publish his book with

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01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: minor edits. If this is true, do we know who

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Speaker 1: provided that approval? In the FBI because it's smacks of

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Speaker 1: corruption given the classified nature of the information. And if not, alternatively,

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Speaker 1: can we get confirmation from the a G A is

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Speaker 1: to the propriety of this information being published while an

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Speaker 1: ongoing investigation is at hand and some of the data

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Speaker 1: reference and government owned classified property not Comy's alright, Joel,

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Speaker 1: good call. Thank you for checking in with us today.

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Speaker 1: Sandy in El Centro in California. Hey, Sandy, how are you?

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Speaker 1: What's going on today? Um, the president's job is very difficult,

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01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: so when they come into office, they deserve information. So

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Speaker 1: I think that Comey listening to the interview purposely undermined

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Speaker 1: President Trump by not telling them that the dossier was

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Speaker 1: paid for by Hillary and the d n C and

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Speaker 1: instead emphasizing the salacious information which is not verified. And

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Speaker 1: I also feel like he under undermined President Trump when

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Speaker 1: he didn't tell them that the dossier was used for

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Speaker 1: the FIE to warrant. I think the president of the

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: United States of America deserves that information. He also lied,

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Speaker 1: as other people did when President Trump bought brought up

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Speaker 1: wire taps. And I know, maybe President Trump should have

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01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: used surveillance, but that doesn't matter. They lied. We now

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01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 1: know for sure that they were surveilling the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 1: And I also feel like come undermine President Trump when

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01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: he failed to tell the American people that President Trump

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01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: wasn't under investigatingtion. And when he talks about evidence of obstruction,

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01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: comey doesn't have evidence. He just has I claim. This

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Speaker 1: just his word. That's not evidence. That's just like hearsay,

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01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: that's just his word. And when he says the Russians

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Speaker 1: have information on Trump, that's just again him believing it.

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Speaker 1: That's not evidence. I didn't hear any evidence other than

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: evidence that shows me that there was definitely an intent

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01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: to undermine President Trump. They've never had any evidence whatsoever

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01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: of collusion, and we have the montage of them saying it.

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Speaker 1: But Mr clapperd then went on to say that to

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Speaker 1: his knowledge, there was no evidence of collusion between members

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01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: of the Trump campaign and the Russians. We did not

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Speaker 1: conclude any evidence in our report. And when I say

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Speaker 1: our report, that is the n s, A, FBI, and

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Speaker 1: CIA with my office the Director of National Intelligence, that

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01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: had anything any reflection of collusion between the members of

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01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Trump camp and the Russians. There was no evidence of

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01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: that in our report. Was Mr Clapper wrong when he

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01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: said that. I think he's right about characterizing the report

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01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: which you all have read. We did not include any

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Speaker 1: evidence in our report. And I say our that's n S, A, FBI,

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Speaker 1: and c I A with my Office of Director of

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01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: National Intelligence, that had anything that had any reflection of

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01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.

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01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 1: There was no evidence of that included in our report. Now,

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Speaker 1: you said in January two thousand seventeen this year that

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Speaker 1: you knew of no collusion. Did you know of those

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Speaker 1: two events? No, I did not, And uh, the statement

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Speaker 1: I made at the time was it was was true.

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Speaker 1: We had no I had no direct evidence of collusion. Now,

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Speaker 1: we had lots of concerns because we were aware of

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Speaker 1: multiple meetings that we're going on. While at least my part,

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Speaker 1: it was not directly of the content of the of

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Speaker 1: these meetings, but we were certainly concerned. Have you seen

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Speaker 1: anything either intelligence briefings, through intelligence briefings, anything to back

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01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:17,480
Speaker 1: up any of the accusations that they have the documentation

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Speaker 1: that they did the hacking, The hacking on the d

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Speaker 1: n C right and on some of us, you know

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: that put the collusion. Though we have not. Do you

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01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump

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01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: associates and Russia during the campaign. Not. At this time,

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Speaker 1: it looks like increasingly he's investigating the Russian invasion the

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Speaker 1: United States political system and not collusion. We just don't

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Speaker 1: have We're in this sort of the black box, behind

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01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: the veil of ignorance. But we still have seen no

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01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: evidence of collusion. Have you seen anything that suggests any

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01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign? Well, there's

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01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: an awful lot of smoke there, Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: People that might have said they were involved, to what

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01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: extent they were involved, what extent the president might have

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01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: known about these people or whatever. There's nothing there from

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01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: that standpoint that we have seen directly linking our president

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01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: to any of that. Did evidence exist of collusion, coordination,

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01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian state actors at

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Speaker 1: the time you learned of twenty sixteen efforts? I don't

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Speaker 1: know whether or not such collusion, that's your term, such

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Speaker 1: collusion existed. I don't know. The big questions, of course,

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01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: is is there any evidence of collusion you have seen yet?

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01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Is there there is a lot of smoke We haven't

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01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: smoking gun at this point, but there is a lot

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01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 1: of smoke. Diane Feinstein has said there's no evidence of collusion,

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01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: So collusion between whom? Can you tell us that. I'm

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Speaker 1: not prepared to say that there's proof you could take

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Speaker 1: to a jury, but I can't say that there is

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01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: enough that we ought to be investigating. At the time

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Speaker 1: you separated from service in January seventeen, had you seen

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01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: any evidence that Donald Trump or any member of his

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01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: campaign colluded, conspired to coordinated with Russians or anyone else

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01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: to infiltrade or impact our vol infrastructure. Um, not beyond

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01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: what has been out there open source, and not beyond

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Speaker 1: anything that I'm sure this committee has already seen and

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Speaker 1: heard before directly from the intelligence community. All Right, Sandy,

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Speaker 1: thank you appreciate the call today. By all right, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap things up to today. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us. Stot We get well full Hannity tonight on

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Speaker 1: all things, James Comey, all things. How sick and twisted

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01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 1: and messed up the media is. I'm experiencing it myself.

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01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. I just actually can't believe some of this.

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01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll get to all of that, the things

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Speaker 1: that the media missed in their interview with Comey, and

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01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 1: the questions that should have been asked, and the crimes

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Speaker 1: that may have been committed, and the oversight and the

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01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: abusive bias and pettiness of Comy. We've got it all.

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Speaker 1: We'll get your news and information you will not get

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. It's all coming up tonight Hannity nine Eastern

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Speaker 1: on the Fox News Channel, and we've got a great

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Speaker 1: list of guests, Joe did Jenneva, Alan Dershowitz tonight, Lannie

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Speaker 1: Davis he's no fan of James come newke ingridg tonight,

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Speaker 1: Sean Spicer, uh Sebastian Gorka, Ari Fleischer, and Attorney David Jones.

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Speaker 1: We've got all that coming up. Set you DVR ninety

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Speaker 1: eastern tonight. We'll a full complete coverage of all of

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Speaker 1: this tomorrow and the media's melt down over yours truly,

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Speaker 1: it's all coming up on the Tuesday edition of The

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. We'll see you tonight at nine. Back

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow. Thanks for being with us,