1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 3: You've heard Turn the Beat Around by Vicki Sue Robinson, 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: Heaven on the seventh Floor of a Freak by Chic 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: Fly Robin fly By, the Silver Connection, and now number 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: five on the Station where the seventies survived, KB I 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: L L Y. 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 4: But found that'll be an oppress. That's all I don't 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: see an The white Lady said nobody knows black stuggle 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 4: like white wizard. And I thought I was having a 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: dead life until I got. 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 5: Be's the cable. Remon't turn that up again, because sometimes 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 5: buried in laughter, buried in comedy is what turns out 14 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: to be a very very prescient statement. This comedian's name 15 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 5: is Jason j y s N. I don't know why 16 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: some black people put an extra y in. Jason is 17 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 5: still Jason. There are a few. We actually have a 18 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: show sponsor who he puts the Y in there, but 19 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 5: mostly it's a black thing, and I don't know why. 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 5: I'm not mad about it, but I'm figuring, did you 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 5: put the y to tell people that A is long? 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: Because I don't think anybody's trying to say Jason or Johnson. 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 5: I think pretty much people know jas O n is Jason, 24 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: and if you can put a y in the middle 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 5: of it. It's not like, hey, we're going to name 26 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 5: him something that a lot of people are already named, 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 5: and that's because we like the name. But maybe it's 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: too common, so we're going to add a Y in 29 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: there and be like, I see people who have a 30 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: real common name, and I have Michael, so it's the 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: most common name out there, but for some odd reason 32 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: I like it. Maybe it's my narcissism, but I see 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 5: people that have a really really common name, but they 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 5: changed the parents, changed the spelling on it. What are 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: you doing there, It's just come up with a different 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: name if you want to be so different. But anyway, 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 5: back to the point, his name is Jason Cross, and 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: now you'll remember how to spell his name, Jyn Cross. 39 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: Black guy. I'd never heard of him before, but I 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 5: came across this set he was doing and he makes 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: the statement, I just found out I'm being oppressed. I 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 5: saw it on CNN and a white lady said it, 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 5: nobody knows the black struggle like white women. I didn't 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: know I was being oppressed till I got basic cable, 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 5: But underneath that is this statement. These white liberal women 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: running around telling black people your life is miserable, and 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 5: they're going, no, no, I'm fine. I found out on 48 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 5: being oppressed. That's all I dont see an A white 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: lady said. 50 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: Nobody knows black stung like white women, and. 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: I thought I was having a. 52 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: Dead life until I got these the cable. 53 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 5: Since we're on the subject of awkward racial discussions and 54 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 5: that is the national obsession. I don't know this woman's name, 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: so I can't tell you who she is other than 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 5: that she's an idiot, but she's not uncommon. She was 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: on Piers Morgan's show, and Piers Morgan, she's Piers Morgan's guest, 58 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 5: and she says to a white woman with whom she's arguing, 59 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 5: I can't be racist to you because I'm black. I 60 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: can't be racist. Now, when you listen to this, I 61 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 5: want you to understand this is one of the most 62 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 5: central themes to the split on how we deal with 63 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: race in America. It is more profound than just who's 64 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 5: racist and who's not. Such a silly word, Such a silly, 65 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 5: silly word that is devoid of any meaning, any longer. 66 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: But what we're really discussing here is will there be 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: a sense of equal application of social moras? Will it 68 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: be okay for a white person for a black person 69 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: to say things about white people that if a white 70 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: person said about black people would be very upsetting. Get 71 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: you canceled? Will that be okay? Will it be okay 72 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 5: for a black person to say, I'm not going to 73 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: hire anyone white for this job, only a black person. 74 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 5: Will it be okay in our laws? Will it be 75 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: okay in our public speeches? Will it be okay in 76 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 5: our politics? These are the sorts of things we struggle 77 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 5: through now. I don't It's pretty simple to me, say 78 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: what you want to say, and if someone's feelings are hurt, 79 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 5: they can decide how they want to deal with it. 80 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: I don't believe in canceling anybody. I don't care if 81 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 5: it's a black person saying it or a white person 82 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 5: saying it. I don't care what the historical implications are. 83 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 5: And I think that most people who run around screaming racism, 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: ninety nine point nine percent of them are really small minded, 85 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 5: really stupid, sometimes overly sensitive people, And I think they're 86 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: the worst of America. I think they're the absolute worst 87 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: of America. They're not inventors, they're not creators, they're not doers, 88 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: they're not builders. They don't in any way make America great, 89 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 5: never have, never will. They're small minded, petty, infighting, silly, 90 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: stupid people always nine nine point nine percent. I mean, 91 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 5: find me the exception to the rule and I'll point 92 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 5: it out. But I can't think who it is. But 93 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: listen to this woman and what she's saying. And I 94 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 5: want you to ask yourself this question. Where do you 95 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: come down on this? 96 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 6: Now? 97 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: You can restought cannot be racist to white women. 98 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 7: Are you kidding me? 99 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Sorry? That makes no sense. Sorry, black women cannot be 100 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: racist to white women. 101 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 7: Do you not understand? 102 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 5: Don't have to intellection? 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Oh yes, can I understand that? 104 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 8: Oh? 105 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Yes, very much. And you've been racist to me, that's 106 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: very much. You've been racist to me, a white man, 107 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I say, you on the race? Yeah, how am I 108 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: racist to you? 109 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 2: I'm black? 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: I can't be racist. You called me a race bats 111 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: with no evidence. To me when you could be racist 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: to me? When have I been a race based powerhouse? 113 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Tell me when I've been a race well, you may 114 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: be a powerhouse. Say something you may be, you may 115 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: be a powerhouse. Okay, when have I been a race baits? 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: Admit that? 117 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: When have I been a race bates? Okay? When have 118 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: I been a race baits? Okay? Tell me give me 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: one example of me race baitsy Blossom go. 120 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm here at this point. 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm just here to talk about trans women in sports. 122 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: I said what I say, So, you don't have anything 123 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: to you anything cool. 124 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 5: So I don't know why people have such people on 125 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 5: their show. I don't understand is that interesting? 126 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: Is that? 127 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 8: I mean? 128 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 5: Sure, you can't turn it off. That that part is true. 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: You can't turn it off. You can't look away. It 130 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: is the the It is the ultimate uh train wreck. 131 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: There's there's no doubt about that. It is the absolute 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: utter train wreck. But do you want to listen to that? 133 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: I understand I've subjected it to you, So who am 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: I to say? But I say that by way of 135 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: denigrating it, by way of saying a serious nation has 136 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: got to get past this racial problem. Our diversity is 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: not our strength any longer. Our diversity has become a 138 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: cudgel that some people use against others. And it's not 139 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: just that blacks use it against whites, white liberals use 140 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: it in what is truly you want to talk about racism? 141 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: The worst form of racism is liberal white women telling 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 5: black people to stay on the plantation so they can 143 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: control them. Don't speak up, I'll speak for you. You 144 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: sh hush, hush. I'll handle this. I'm the white liberal 145 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 5: wan to hear it. He'll just go ahead and say it. 146 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: Sorry, Michael Very show the bring down, the Battle of 147 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: the Man. 148 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 5: I ride a rubbing. I don't make name. So the 149 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: Democrat Party is at an inflection point. Chuck Schumer, who 150 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 5: has been the face of the party and the back 151 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: room negotiator strategists for their sort of how they handle legislation. 152 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 5: It's been Nancy and Chuck, and as much as I 153 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: don't like them, they've been very effective at executing their agenda. 154 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 5: At present, they are they are on the run, but 155 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 5: they're not on the run from our side of the island. 156 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 5: They're on the run from their side. The left doesn't 157 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: want what would be within the moderate side, the moderate 158 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: end of the spectrum, if the entirety of the spectrum 159 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 5: is the Democrat Party. So you start to the left 160 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: of metal and they're all over there. Pelosi and Schumer 161 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 5: would be in the middle of that, not at the 162 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: far left end. So it's not the middle of society, 163 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 5: it's the middle of their party alone. The left doesn't 164 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 5: want that anymore. The progressive the progressives with a nice smile, 165 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 5: you know this, This is the sort of first you 166 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: first just tolerate a community, and then you're required to 167 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 5: support them, and then if you don't, you're canceled. But 168 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: you start it just an incremental growth. Well, Jasmine Crockett, 169 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 5: who is just this loud mouth woman who has sort 170 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: of filled the void of Sheila Jackson Lea since her passing. 171 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 5: The problem is media loves to put these people on 172 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 5: because they're hilarious and you can't turn it off. So 173 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 5: here's Jasmine Crockett talking about hold On said here she 174 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: is talking about Ted Cruz. 175 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 9: I think that you punch. 176 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: I think you punch. 177 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 9: I think you're okay, you okay, we're punching, you know, 178 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 9: I think, and I love Colin and I think towards 179 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 9: the end he started to punch a little harder. 180 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: But like it's sad Cruz. 181 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 9: I mean, like this dude has to be knots over 182 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 9: the head like hard, right, Like there is no niceties 183 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 9: with him, like at all, Like you you go clean 184 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 9: off on him. 185 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: Right? 186 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 5: So is Jasmine Crockett some ghetto dwelling, trash talking, tworking 187 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 5: woman or is she the candidate who first ran for 188 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: office and won? I don't know. I don't know who 189 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 5: she really is. One of them is a posed and 190 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 5: the fact that she can and use this latter of personality, 191 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 5: whether it's opposed or now she gets to shine through, 192 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 5: is of no consequence to me. It is time that 193 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 5: we get serious about dealing with bad people and keep 194 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 5: them out of the government, and keep them out of 195 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 5: administrative positions, and keep them out of teaching, and keep 196 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: them We're not solving problems, We're making them worse by 197 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 5: putting people like her in positions. Well, she is now 198 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: trashing trashing Chuck Schumer the way AOC is so that 199 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 5: you would, okay, you can tolerate that because the money 200 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: is not listening to her. But here is Nancy Pelosi 201 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 5: being critical of Chuck Schumer while at the same time 202 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: demonstrating why she is the most effective speaker in history. 203 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 5: Some of you lose your mind when I say that, 204 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: Oh hat, you can hate her, You can hate Tom 205 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: Brady you can hate Michael Jordan. That doesn't get too 206 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: that is the effectiveness. 207 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: You're a pit. 208 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 5: Your like of her or dislike has nothing to do 209 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: with how effective she was at doing her job. When 210 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 5: she is criticizing humor, he's in trouble. It's about what 211 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: comes next. 212 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 6: I myself don't give away anything for nothing, and I 213 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 6: think that's what happened the other day. We could have, 214 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 6: in my view, perhaps gotten them to agree to a 215 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 6: third way, which was a bipartisan cr for two four 216 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 6: weeks in which we could have had bipartisan legislation to 217 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: go forward. 218 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 5: So she first, so she she claims to be showing 219 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: respect for him, but and the butt is he gave 220 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: away the shop. He is not good at his job. 221 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 5: That's where the money gas will say, all right, he's 222 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: gotta go. Then there's crazy burning. He was on CNN 223 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: and he said that he disagrees with Schumer, but Chuck's 224 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: not the problem, make no mistake. He first guts him, 225 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 5: and then just like Nancy Pelosi in reverse order, he 226 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 5: says no, no, no, but but Chuck's not the problem, 227 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 5: while saying Chuck's the problem. 228 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 8: Where everyone's beating up on Chok and I strugg you 229 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 8: disagree with him strongly. No one is in the caucus 230 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 8: more critical of Schuma than I am. But it's not Schuma, 231 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 8: it's the caucus. It's not the caucus, it's the Democratic Party. 232 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 8: You gotta take the deep rep and understand that you 233 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 8: have a Democratic Party. You know, you got a Republican 234 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 8: body which is all by Any Republican who defies Donald 235 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 8: Trump will be primaried by must unlimited. 236 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: Amounts of money. 237 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 8: In the Democratic Party, you got a party that is 238 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 8: heavily dominated by the billionaire class, run by consultants who 239 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 8: are way out of touch with reality. It has the 240 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 8: Democratic Party as virtually no grassroots support. 241 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: An NBC News poll shows that liberal white women are 242 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: the spawn of the devil. My words, not theirs. But 243 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 5: I stand by and listen to the story. 244 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: To see this. White women with at least a college. 245 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: Degree the only group of white voters that really kind 246 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: of is on the left politically aligned with progressive causes 247 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: democratic politics. 248 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: Give you an. 249 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: Example here is that DEI question. 250 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: Right here that we asked about in our poll. 251 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 8: We had two big statements we read to voters, basically, 252 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 8: do you want to continue DEI program or do. 253 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: You think they should be ended. 254 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: And again, look at this divide. 255 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: Here, white men no degree ended, White men with a 256 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 5: degree end it, they say, White women no degree end 257 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: it they say by double digits. 258 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 7: And then white women with a college degree completely different. 259 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: By a nearly forty point margin. They say, to continue DEI. 260 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: White liberal women, that's the group, that's the problem. You 261 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 5: look at the numbers. What happened. We sent them all 262 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 5: to universities and they were educated by other liberal white women. 263 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 5: Now white women, don't get upset. We're talking about liberal 264 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 5: white women. Understand the difference. 265 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: This is the Michael Verie Show. 266 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's on. 267 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Such a time. 268 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: I am best flight astronaut Clayton Anderson is our guest. 269 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 5: With space being in the news, who better to join 270 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 5: the show. He saw him on Fox News as their 271 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 5: expert on the matter last week. Clayton, let's start with 272 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: your reaction emotionally, personally, professionally when you saw our astronauts 273 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 5: come home last week. That was pretty thrilled. 274 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 7: You know, I've been removed from that game for I 275 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 7: don't know, probably fifteen years now, but I replaced Sonny 276 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 7: as back in two thousand and seven when she had 277 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 7: finished her first flight. 278 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: So I have a. 279 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 7: Kinder and spirit with my space sister, and it was 280 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 7: important for them to get home safely after all that, 281 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 7: and I'm glad they did. 282 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: I know, you stay up on NASA matters and space matters. 283 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: What happened. My understanding is they were going up for 284 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: a few days, and nine months later they were stranded there. 285 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: Can you explain that? 286 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the word stranded, 287 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 7: but the star Liner, the Boeing star Liner, took them 288 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 7: up for an eight to ten day test flight with 289 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 7: a crew, and then they had thrust problems. So then 290 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 7: they said, well, let's keep them on there for a while, 291 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 7: which is an awesome answer, right to spend a couple 292 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 7: months on the space station while we look at the 293 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 7: star Liner and try to figure out what happened. So 294 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 7: they do all that, and then they come to the 295 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 7: conclusion that well, you know, we're not going to be 296 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 7: able to fix the problems, and we don't want Butchers 297 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 7: Sonny to risk coming back on the star Liner, and 298 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 7: so they sent it back empty. Well, now they are 299 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 7: stranded for a brief period because they don't have a 300 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 7: rescue craft. You know, whenever you fly to the space station. 301 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 7: The seat that you fly in to the station on 302 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 7: is your escape seat to go home. And so that's 303 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 7: why they needed the SpaceX crew to come up with 304 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 7: two empty seats so they could dock and stay there 305 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 7: and bring Butching Sonny home. The thing I don't really 306 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 7: understand is why they made those that crew spend their 307 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 7: whole increment and made Butcher and Sonny spend that whole increment, 308 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 7: which then drove to the nine months. That's the part 309 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 7: I don't know, and I'm not privy. 310 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 5: To all Right, Clayton, if you wouldn't say they were 311 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: stranded there, what word would you use? 312 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 7: I would say. 313 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 5: The better word that's more descriptive. 314 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 7: Okay, So between the time when the star Liner left 315 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 7: and the time the SpaceX Dragon came up with two 316 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 7: empty seats, they were kind of stranded, So my bad. 317 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 7: But once they get up there, there's plenty of food, 318 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 7: there's plenty of water, there's plenty of oxygen, there's plenty 319 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 7: of clothes, so, you know, and it's a very safe environment. 320 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 7: We understand that environment. We've understood it for you know, 321 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 7: twenty something years now, so and they could contribute to 322 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: the mission objective of doing science and repair and maintenance 323 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 7: and all those good things. 324 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: When you. 325 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 5: That's a long period of time, so there had to 326 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: have been provision made obviously for things like food and water. 327 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 5: Do you have any sense of the length of those provisions, 328 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 5: those stocks? I mean, how long could this have gone on? 329 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 7: It can go on for quite a while. What we 330 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 7: have to understand is that the supply chain to get 331 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 7: supplies back and forth from the International Space Station was 332 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 7: never broken, right progress vehicles came from Russia, other vehicles 333 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 7: bring stuff up, so that part was intact. So there 334 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 7: was plenty of food, plenty of water, and they were 335 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 7: never worried from that aspect. I would imagine once they 336 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 7: figured out Sonny and Butch were going to be there 337 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 7: for a while, they did a little bit of scrambling 338 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: to get clothing in their size and those sorts of 339 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 7: things on the next delivery vehicle to come up to them. 340 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 7: But once all that happened, it's pretty much steady as 341 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 7: she goes. Well. 342 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 5: The problem with that is women will often lie about 343 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: their sizes because they don't want to be there. So you, 344 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: I guess you have to you have to prepare on 345 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: that account, you know, and add a little extra fluff. 346 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure that was done. 347 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 8: You know. 348 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: You know, I buy all my pants now with an 349 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: element that we didn't have growing up with the you know, 350 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: the Levi's, and it's it's a little a little stretch factor, 351 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 5: so they can they can stretch out or close up, 352 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 5: depending on how I'm doing that week. Maybe maybe they 353 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 5: did that. 354 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 8: Well. 355 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 7: You know, it's funny. I lost both times I flew 356 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 7: five months and two weeks, and both times I lost 357 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 7: the same amount of weight twelve pounds when I got 358 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 7: up to space, and of course I gained it right 359 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 7: back when I came back to Earth. 360 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: All Right, I have a question. We're going to handle 361 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: this delicately, but we have to handle it because I've 362 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: always been curious. Do you use whatever words you want 363 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 5: to use to keep it clinical, But how does one 364 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 5: How does one pass a movement when you're up there. 365 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 7: The same way you pass a movement when you're down here. 366 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 7: You just need a little bit of a vacuum cleaner. 367 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: Oh okay, and and the same for for uh, same 368 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: for the pep. 369 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: Yes, the the. 370 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 7: Pepe is you just pee into a hose and it 371 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 7: sucks it down into a can. And back in those days, 372 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 7: we use kind of Russian kitty litter was inside the 373 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: can some some form of absorption. And then in the 374 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 7: number two there's a plastic bag that has holes in it, 375 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 7: and the holes allow the fan to draw the air 376 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 7: through that bag, which then inflates or opens it so 377 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 7: you can drop your addition into the UH into the fray, 378 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 7: and then you take all your clean up things, your gauze, 379 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 7: your toilet tissue, your gloves, all those things, and you 380 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 7: put it in that little plastic bag and then you 381 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 7: snap the top off and has a nice tight rubber band, 382 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 7: and then just push it down in the can and 383 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 7: you're good to go for the next time. 384 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 5: Are you anxious and tense when you're doing such things 385 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 5: or does it just become second nature? 386 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 7: The very first time on the shuttle, I was scared 387 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 7: to death. I read that checklist one hundred times and 388 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 7: I made sure everything was good to go. It was 389 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 7: all successful. 390 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: But I learned one. 391 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 7: Thing, and that was the next time I was going 392 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 7: to go number two on any space vehicle, I was 393 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: getting naked. I was taking off everything because I didn't 394 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 7: need anything inhibiting me. 395 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: Right, Interesting, how does it change you? How emotionally physically 396 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: anything like, what are the things we would take for 397 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: granted or that we wouldn't notice that space does to you. 398 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 7: Physically. I don't think much. For me my five months 399 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 7: and my rehab took about three weeks coming home. I 400 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 7: think Sonny and Butch will probably have double that maybe. 401 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 7: But what it did for me was it strengthened my 402 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 7: faith in God. As I looked at Earth, all I 403 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 7: could think of was Man. None of this is random. 404 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 4: You know. 405 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 7: You hear about the overview effect and the orbital perspective 406 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 7: that astronauts talk about on occasion, and I believe all that. 407 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 7: All that's true. We're on spaceship Earth, right, we should 408 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 7: take care of Earth. But for me, it just strengthened 409 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 7: my faith. You know, for a small town kid from 410 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 7: Nebraska that would end up in outer space for one 411 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 7: hundred and sixty seven days and have the privilege of 412 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 7: the things that I was exposed to and allowed to do, 413 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 7: it's all about my faith. 414 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: Well, so much of life is, if viewed properly, an 415 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: opportunity to get to do something, and most people are 416 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: never going to go to space. But whatever that is, 417 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 5: and our men industry where it is, our life where 418 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: it is, our influence where it is. And I think 419 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 5: it's all about perspective. And you have such a good 420 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: perspective as an astronaut. You've used it to write children's books. 421 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: We'll talk to astronaut Clayton Anderson coming up. 422 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: This is the Michael Berry Show. You want to climb 423 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: on a rock? 424 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: You want to go to space? 425 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: Won't to leave the Earth without a trace. Tried fourteen 426 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: times but they said no way. But the fifteenth time 427 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: you was on your way. Oh, has so much fun 428 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: on the eyes. 429 00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 6: Space walson success. 430 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: You're the spaceman to X shows in your. 431 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: Name is Clayton on the Michael Berry Show. Your mother 432 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: wanting the busy lest. 433 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 5: As of fun, Space shuns Clayton. 434 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: Clay. 435 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: Not every day you get your own customized intro by 436 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: chance McLean. 437 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 7: Hey, that was pretty awesome pick out. 438 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: You know we would license it. We will license that 439 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: to you for your own introductions, for your speeches and things, 440 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: if you would like, okay. Clayton Conrad Anderson is a 441 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: retired NASA astronaut Launstone STS one seventeen. He replaced Sunita 442 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 5: Williams on June tenth, two thousand and seven as a 443 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 5: member of the ISS Expedition fifteen crew, currently an author, 444 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 5: motivational speaker, and professor of practice at Iowa State University 445 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: in Ames, Iowa. Twenty twenty two, he became the president 446 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 5: and CEO of the Strategic Air Command and Aerospace Museum. 447 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: I just was reading from your wiki Wikipedia profile. I 448 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: don't know if you've if you've checked that out in 449 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 5: a while, Clayton, let me ask you a question. 450 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 7: I wrote most of it. 451 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 5: I wasn't going to say that. Let me ask you 452 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: a question. So in I don't know, two thousand and 453 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 5: nine or so, Charles Bolden, who was then the NSA 454 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: or NASA director, I don't know if you knew him 455 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 5: or not. He gave an interview where he said that 456 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 5: President Trump had given him three goals and none of 457 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: them were related to space travel or science. The third 458 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: being to tell the Muslim world that they have a 459 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 5: contribution historically to math and science and you know that 460 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 5: they matter. It was part of the Muslim outreach, and 461 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 5: I thought to myself, you know, a once great space 462 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 5: program has now been reduced to patting countries on the 463 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: back so they feel good about themselves. What is the 464 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 5: state of NASA today? 465 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 7: That's a good question. I think there's some unknowns going 466 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 7: on with the new administration and the changes that have 467 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 7: got over the last few years, and the space launch 468 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 7: system is probably concerning given costs and schedule. I mean, 469 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 7: it's always about budget and money and schedule. And when 470 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 7: you have people like SpaceX and Blue Origin and Virgin 471 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 7: Galactic out there pushing the commercial envelope, I think all 472 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 7: that's good. I think it forces us to look at 473 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 7: things different light. 474 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: Do you do you think that space travel as we 475 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 5: once knew it, at least as as conducted by NASA. 476 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: Is over? 477 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 5: And how do you see SpaceX fitting into all of that. 478 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 7: I don't think it's over. I think that, you know, 479 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 7: having a presence in the federal government is important. You know, 480 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: if you look back at Challengering Columbia, the reason that 481 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 7: we were able to continue on was because of the 482 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 7: push from the federal government. So I think it's a combination. 483 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 7: I think it's important that we have these commercial space 484 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 7: flight companies that are pushing the envelope and showing us 485 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 7: what's possible and bringing the prices down. Those are all 486 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 7: good things. Think about Orville and Wilbur at Kitty Hawk 487 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 7: in nineteen oh three when they flew their right flyer, 488 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 7: and now think about what you can do today on 489 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 7: a commercial aircraft. 490 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 6: Right. 491 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 7: None of that was believed to be possible back then, 492 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 7: but now it is. It's commercially driven, and it's very 493 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 7: safe and used by many, many people. So I think 494 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 7: that's a good analogy. We're on the cusp of that. 495 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 7: We're on the beginning of that in spaceflight, where Orble 496 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 7: and Wilbur might have been back in nineteen oh three. 497 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 5: What do you make of Elon's ability to do the 498 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 5: things he's done as a private company on a lean budget, 499 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 5: And yet I mean, you know, they're sure there are 500 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: failures along the way. NASA had failures. It's a dangerous business. 501 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 5: But I'm not a scientist. I don't have obviously the 502 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: experience you do. But I am in awe of what 503 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 5: they have accomplished. But I'm curious your thoughts. 504 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 7: I am too, you know, as an astronaut who flew 505 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 7: on the Space Shuttle and lived on the Space Station. 506 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 7: Those were pretty incredible accomplishments. But if you look at 507 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 7: what he's done and the speed the rate at which 508 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 7: he's done it, it's kind of unprecedented. Now, what folks 509 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 7: have to understand is statistics. Down the road, there will 510 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 7: be a problem. There will be a death. You know, 511 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 7: someone will die, just it's statistics, and we hope that 512 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: never happens, right, but I think it's inevitable. And then 513 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 7: how the recovery is from all of that is what's 514 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: important to me. You know, does he take his millions 515 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 7: and go home or does he stay and fight the 516 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 7: battle and make it better and go again and all 517 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 7: those things. So it's like the explorers in America back 518 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 7: in the day when they started to move west across 519 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 7: the country, right, they were uncovering problems every day and 520 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 7: they were fighting against things they didn't know existed. So 521 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 7: we're in that way in space travel. And I always 522 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 7: talk about the threats of spaceflight, danger, difficulty, and dollars, 523 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 7: and those are very prevalent. We know it's dangerous. We 524 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 7: oftentimes figure out and fix the difficult, but it's all 525 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 7: about the dollars. 526 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 5: Clayton Anderson astronaut Clayton Anderson's our guest. I have two 527 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 5: minutes left, so I'm going to be fast because I've 528 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: been wanting to ask you about this for a while. 529 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: So you served as an Aquanaut during the NEMO five 530 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 5: mission on the Aquarius Underwater Laboratory, living and working underwater 531 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: for fourteen days. Right, what is the future of our ability? 532 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 5: Jacques Cousteau style to go under the water and spend 533 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: any significant time there. 534 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 7: I probably have less expertise. If I have any expertise in. 535 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: Anything, just make something up. 536 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 7: Okay, it's fascinating. I think it's an extreme environment. Right, 537 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 7: Space and underwater are extreme environments outer space and inner space, 538 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 7: and those are perfect places to figure out what humans 539 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 7: can do, what we can stand, how much stress we 540 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 7: can take, how we work together with each other. They're 541 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 7: just great analogies for doing incredible things. So I think, 542 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 7: you know, we should live underwater too. In space and underwater, 543 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 7: I think they're both great venues. 544 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 5: You know, the mind of a child and what inspires 545 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 5: a child, what they read, what they see, what they hear, 546 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: these sorts of things. I think you have to have 547 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 5: those things to light that fire in a young mind 548 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 5: and understand why math and science, physics and literature and 549 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 5: all these things are so incredibly important. Clayton Anderson, it's 550 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 5: always a pleasure. We will have you back again. I 551 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: appreciate you sir. 552 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 7: I appreciate you, Michael, and my best to the King 553 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 7: of Ding as well. 554 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: You got it. 555 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: Astronaut Clayton Anderson our guest there. President Trump talks a 556 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: lot about our birthright of greatness and our legacy of exceptionalism, 557 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 5: a word that Rush really brought back into America's common vernacular, 558 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 5: common conversation, this idea of American exceptionalism, and that is 559 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: what Elon represents. That's what Edison represented, That's what Steve 560 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 5: Jobs represented, That's what we should be exceptional great We 561 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: have to be careful because there's a always some ninny, 562 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 5: there's always some lefty, there's always some loony, there's always 563 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 5: somebody that wants to destroy this country from within. Don't 564 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: forget who and what we are. Elon proved that with SpaceX, 565 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: but there are so many others, so many of you 566 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: that in your own walk of life, in your own way, 567 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: represent American exceptionalists. And I'm glad to get to join 568 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 5: you here every single day. It's my honor. 569 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: ELSD thank you, and have a good night.