WEBVTT - Combine Questions With Thor 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.519 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.920 Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.960 source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.360 whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now, 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:21.160 here's your host, Paul Chargian. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.400 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.920 It's a combine edition with Thor Nystrom. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.480 Welcome back, my man. Hey, thanks so much. Yeah, we've 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.880 reached Combine week. We've reached Combine week. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.640 You're leaving in a matter of hours as we're taping 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:37.919 this now. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.840 For some people that hear this a little later, they'll 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.000 you'll already be there, that's right. Yeah. So you just 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.800 think of me as in Indianapolis right now as people 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.720 are listening to this, what are the odds that you 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.680 are at, Oh, what's the big steakhouse in India Say almost, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.200 say almost, yes, almost, pretty good. I will be there 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.160 at least one time for sure. You can come on that. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.880 You have to have the shrimp cocktail at the cocktail sauce. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.920 Not even the shrimp. I mean it's good, there's big shrimp. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.240 It's the cocktail sauce. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.520 It's the cocktail sauce. Yeah, which is more like a 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.600 fear factor type challenge. It really gets through that they 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.680 have the horse Radish apparently, the grind it fresh every day. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.319 It is so hot, especially for someone who's taste buds 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.640 were born and bread in Minnesota. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.600 So right, this is it's out of our normal comfort 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.600 zone for sure. The Saint Elmos, I think you can 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.400 buy it. I think they have it. You can't at retail. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.360 You can buy it in retail. Yeah, Cocktail sauce yeah yeah. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.199 And they say if if. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.160 It's too spicy for you at Ketchup, which is like 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.480 everything in Minnesota, right, ketchup is spicy in Minnesota. You 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.360 because you can dial it down if you need to. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.920 There's the Sane Almos at the airport. That's usually we 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.560 just yeah, yep. So a lot of times we'll just well, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.760 you're waiting for our planes, we'll hit that. Hit it there, Okay, yes, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.320 you can do that too. It's a I think Indianapolis 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.200 is a pretty fun town. They've got. This is the 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:02.720 combine is big. It's not even close to gen Con. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.680 Gen Con is in the same place. It's in that 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.440 convention center. If you can imagine that convention center elbow 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.280 to elbow with people, and there's like sixty thousand people 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.680 in that convention center every day. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.040 It's nuts. Can I ask what gen Con is? 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.480 It's a board gaming convention. It's the Comic Con of 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.040 board games. Ok, yes, that is gen Con, which is 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:23.360 right there. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.920 Oh, have to check that out some all the time. Yeah, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:26.760 we've got. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.240 We've got a I had my whiskey weekend last weekend, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.480 and some people have I was talking about it on 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.000 the last show. Some people may be interested to know 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.760 what won it was. Blanton's ended up winning. Now we've 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.880 done this thing like fifteen years and nobody had ever 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.000 brought it, and so it found its way up this 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.600 year for the first time. As you know, you can 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.520 ever bring a bottle whiskey. It's ever been there before. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.359 And the Blands is you know, it's kind of a 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.040 it's extremely well regarded. It's hard to find in some states. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.240 Other states is easy, very hard in Minnesota. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.160 But yeah, that was that was your unner. Wow, I 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.120 ever had it. I have not had it. That's because 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.600 you're in Minnesota. I've watched Joe Blanton pitch for the Ages. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.160 I think he'd be happy to be part of that family. Yeah, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.040 no doubt all right, so let's let's dive into the combine. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:19.239 So here's here's where headed. I. I asked you for 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.720 some of the key people you're gonna be watching at 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:28.440 the Combine, and we'll run through a handful of notable 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.640 people at this stage of the process. What you hope 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.840 to see at the combine. For these guys, we'll do quarterbacks, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.360 running backs, receivers, tight. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.160 Ends, and also some guys that aren't testing. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:40.280 Me. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.920 Let's just start there, some of the players who could 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.200 really only go down by testing and draft stock. Let's 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.920 start with Shadura Sanders. Not a big surprise here, but 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.920 they'll be in attendance, but they're not gonna they're not 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:51.760 gonna do any work. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.880 Yeah, that's right. And the consternation over it, I'm kind 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.040 of rolling my eyes at, Like he'll throw at his 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.360 pro day, And I don't really care if either him 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.839 or ward Ro. We have years of their tape where 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.600 they are throwing outdoors and and under duress and and 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.720 actually having to make decisions with the bullets flying. I 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.680 don't really care about the throwing sessions, be them at 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.400 the pro day or at the Combine. So to me, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.680 it's it's more of a non story. And and to 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.159 your point, the reason that they're sitting out, it's because 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.159 because you're sitting at a poker table and you have 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.640 the most chips at it, why would they you don't. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.640 You don't you're not the most aggressive player at the 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.240 table and you have the biggest stack. Right, So yeah, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.559 they're they're they're gonna sit it out, and it sounds 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.800 like both of them will throw at their pro day. Uh. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.120 And they by both, you also mean cam Ward, Yeah, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.479 I mean the other one came Ward. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.640 Yeah, the consensus top two quarterbacks. Yeah, cam Ward sitting 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.440 out as well, and that again as expected, the consensus 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.600 QB one. So yeah, it looks like in Coral Gables 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.839 later this process, well we'll see cam mored throw. But 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.920 again that's a it's a non story. Uh, Ashton. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.400 Now, I want to make sure I get the names right, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.599 and so if I butcher any names, go. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.760 Ahead, and just interrupting, I'm an all time name butcher. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.520 So this is remember you and I Alive on air 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.520 last summer figured out that it was Kamani v Dell. Yeah, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.599 we've been saying it wrong like all spring into summer. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.039 We're finally getting into like training camp. But I'm a 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.400 bad defender at this guys. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:18.000 Yeah, Ashton Genty, Genty, Yeah, Ashton Genty. It will not 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.839 do anything. He's expected to go first half of the 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.520 first round. I'm seeing him mocked his early as Raiders. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.840 Yeah yeah, I mean, he absolutely has a shot at 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.680 the top ten. I would imagine the floor is going 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.880 to be the Cowboys at twelve. He doesn't need to 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.040 test either. He has some of the best tape that 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.760 you'll ever see for a running back prospect, and right 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.359 now there is distance between him and RB two. I 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.760 think the interesting thing will be Ken o'mari and Hampton, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.279 Traveon Henderson, Caleb Johnson. Can any of those guys test 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.120 well enough to put any heat on Genty to incentivize 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.360 Genty to do the athletic testing at Boise States Pro 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.200 Day If there is still that enormous gap coming out 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.719 of the combine, I would expect Genty not to athletically 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.880 tested all this process because why would you have to 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.919 write It's same story, right, It's all you can do 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.479 is go back. For instance, Marvin Harrison last process, Marvin 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.360 Harrison Junior, there was zero testing and he obviously went 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.880 in the top five anyway, uh Quinn, youwers is gonna throw? 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.240 I he is gonna throw, Okay, all right, so we 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.039 have confirmation on him. We have confirmation on mill Roe Dart, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.480 and I believe Riley Leonard has come out as well 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.400 to say that he will throw. But yeah, yours and 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.000 Youwers has to viewers needs to get involved with any 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.119 of the draft process that he can. He is coming 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.640 off a step back of a of a last season 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.160 at Texas. In my opinion, he should have entered the 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.200 transfer portal and taken the bag, the nil bag. Yeah, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.279 but yeah, he decided to Claire, he certainly wasn't going 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.120 to go back to Texas and be the starting quarterback 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.559 next year because that is Arch Manning's job, no doubt. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.839 So that that's why he isn't. Why yours in the 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.039 draft right now? And but yeah, like yours, he's good 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.800 throwing intermediate. I don't think the arm is as good 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.360 as as people thought coming in. You know, when he 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.920 was being compared to Matthew Stafford coming out of high 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:06.200 school both sidewinding Texans there and he's not very good 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.040 under duress either yours and then going through the progression 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.080 line like down to the third Ford progression. He's good 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.880 at running your system for you. He does have some 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.280 arm talent, so there's gonna be interested. But yeah, it'll 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.840 be interesting to see his throwing session. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.720 All right, look, well, let's transition to some other quarterbacks. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.200 Let's go Jackson Dart from Ole, Miss See. I saw 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.000 this is somewhere in his senior year of high school, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.240 he scored seventy nine touchdowns. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.960 Yeah, is that possible? Yeah, he was playing in Utah 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.200 high school football, so maybe that helped. I don't care, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.920 but yeah, no, he transferred his last year he'd Interestingly enough, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.520 Jackson Dart had very little high school recruiting interest up 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.480 until he transferred during the COVID season because Utah continued 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:50.160 high school football. There was a lot of states that 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.040 cancel that, and Jackson Dart transferred to one of the bigger, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.360 sort of blue blood high school programs in Utah the 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.520 last year. That's when he ripped it up. There was 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.600 a end coach that happened to be watching one of 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.440 the televised games that Jackson Dart did early on in 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.160 that season in September, because the Pac twelve hadn't started 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.360 their season yet. So this guy was home. He sees 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.840 this kid just ripping it up on TV and DMed 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.920 him right after the game. That is how us he 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.920 got involved with Jackson Dart. That's where he started. Transferred 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.360 out because Caleb Williams and Lincoln Riley showed up in 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.600 Los Angeles. That's offseason, yeah, so that the journey, yeah. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.600 Because there's no way Caleb Williams wasn't going to start, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.360 that's right, So he had to go somewhere else, goes 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.040 and meets up with Lankiff and at Ole Miss reached 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.319 twelve thousand total yards. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.120 A ton of yards. The stats are ridiculous, and not 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.280 just that, like they're not, you know, not necessarily empty 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.800 calorie stats. Because the Bill Parcells, you know that list 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.840 of seven the checklists that Bill Parcells has, Jackson Dart 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.960 hits every single one of them. And he has the talent, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.120 he has the pedigree. He was the five star recruit. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.480 He started three years at Ole Mess and he put 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.360 up he put up those ridiculous stats. He's athletic, he's 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.679 in a decent package. He has pretty good arm talent, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.360 so that like the package is first round for sure. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.720 But my concern with him is you ran the Mickey 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.640 Mouse Lane Kiffin system while you were predominantly going to 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.600 your first read. Watching his tape was crazy because Jackson 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.800 Dart really would lock onto that first read and he 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.400 would make some insane trick shot throws as opposed to 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.160 looking to the other side of the field where there 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.880 could be more advantageous more advantageous coverage situation. But he 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.920 was attempting harder throws because of this. That's the one thing. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.400 Can he in a pro style system when when you're 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.160 away from just locking onto that pre snap reaed, are 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.800 you able to read the defenses with the bullets flying. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.600 He has all the physical ability and I do think 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.600 he is going to impress at the combine. I think 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.719 his throwing session is going to be good, and if 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.160 he athletically tests, I think he's going to test decently. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.400 But yeah, the question with his evaluation, it's about going 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.000 down the progression line. So this is Jackson Dart. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.920 Do you worry how much do you worry about players 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.839 who get a lot of shotgun work and very little 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.480 work under center you? Is that is that much of 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.640 a factor. In the past, I've been that's been something 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.719 that's made me nervous about a quarterback's overall projection, and 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.600 I'm trying to like, like Drew Locke had that problem 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.439 early on, there were a lot of players that I 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.200 feel like that that was an ultimately hindrance for them. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.800 Does that worry you at all? I want to match 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:24.200 players with systems. I want system fits, and so maybe 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.439 yes and no. I would say, like with Dart, I 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.079 want more RPOs in his offensive system at the next level, 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.680 which are out of shotgun, and I want the field 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.880 spread for him. That's just what he is the most 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.480 comfortable at. He has really quick hands in the RPO 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.559 game and it's a convincing play action as well. He's 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.079 good with the bootlegs stuff like that. But I would 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:45.839 match him with something like that as opposed to trying 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.559 to take him out of his comfort zone. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.440 And we're gonna drill down more on these players later. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.480 That's not for this show, but we'll we'll talk a 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.160 lot of Jackson Dart. I think as the sure as 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.280 as the draft gets closer, let's go to Jalen Milroe 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.800 from Alabama. He reminds me a little bit of Dante Culpepper, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.240 physically dominating big and fast, and then these questions about 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.880 his hand size eight and three quarter inch hands, and 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.240 he's fumbled twenty four times in twenty seven games that 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.560 you know, we saw it here in Minnesota. There's a 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.719 point at which you're such a bad fumbler that your 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.559 career is in jeopardy. Tell me about Jalen Milroe. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.720 Yeah, he has those small hands. The last one that 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.439 we had in the process was Kenny Pickett with some 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.920 nine inch hands, And so there is gonna be some 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.120 shatter about that, in particular with Milroe because of the fumbles, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.880 and that is something like it's not a nothing burger 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.160 because a huge part of his utility is running right, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.720 and so you have to have the ball security. He's 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.600 a really interesting ball of clay because, first of all, 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.800 he's gonna dominate the combine. He is freak, right, Yeah, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.560 he is an absolute freak. He's gonna run in the 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.280 four threes at two hundred and twenty plus pounds, and 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.240 I think we're gonna get a forty inch vertical out 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.679 of him as well. So you're gonna see sort of 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.400 the Anthony Richardson show out of Milroe. And then he 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.000 again he's already confirmed that he gonna do the throwing 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.880 session and this guy needs to he needs to. But 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:08.560 this guy has a twitchy, elastic shot put shotgun like 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:13.680 type arm, slingshot type arm. It reminds you of Michael Vick, who, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.120 interestingly enough, Michael Vick had tiny hands. Oh right, but 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.600 he didn't know that he had that slingshot going downfield. Yeah, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.520 Michael Vick, I believe was eight and a half inches, 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.199 So it was like the smallest pair of hands going 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.520 back like thirty forty years in the NFL. As far 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.920 as somebody who started at quarterback. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.280 It never dawned on me that I could beat Michael 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.000 Vick in thumb wrestling. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.520 You can till now. You absolutely could have. Yeah I 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.080 could have. Yeah, I'm gonna move along before I make 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:42.840 an inappropriate joke. But but yeah, no, I Millroe. He's 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.760 going to impress with the athletic tests, and he's going 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.959 to impress in the throwing session. The reason he didn't 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.560 at the senior boat there's more intermediate stuff there. That's 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.240 the stuff that he badly struggled with in college, whereas 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.480 the deep stuff he was tremendous so over the last 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.559 two years. So that's you know, you start in the 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.560 whole time last two years at Alabama, Milroe on throws 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.160 twenty plus air yards downfield thirty six to four td 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.480 I and T rate and if you want more advanced 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.960 stats on it, forty two big time throws against only 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.800 one turnover worthy play on one hundred and twenty three 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.120 such attempts. Wow, it sounds great. It sounds great, and 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.240 he's he could be one of the best scramblers in 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.320 NFL history. So if you have a nice starter kit. However, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.280 he had get this within nineteen yards of the line 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.360 of scrimmage td I and T rate over the last 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.320 two years of thirteen to thirteen. That's terrible. It is horrid. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.280 And at the senior ball, that's the easy stuff, that's 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.240 the that's easy stot zero to nineteen yards. This is 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.120 the guy who it's like Happy Gilmore. Happy Gilmore crushed 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.679 the ball out of the tee and no one can 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.600 hit drives like Happy Gilmore. He can't putt. The NFL 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.880 needs to teach Jalen Milroe how to putt. We got 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.360 to get him one of the putters that is like 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.320 a hockey stick, you know, like happy dat. But that's 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.920 the problem. And this was the frustration last year with 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.000 Kaylen Debor and Alabama, and I think it's part of 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.400 the reason why Milroe went into the tank. Down the stretch, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.160 he had a ten to one td I and T rate. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.200 At the end of September he ripped up Georgia. Last 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.600 game of September, he had almost five hundred total yards. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.200 Last nine games, Milroe had a six to ten td 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.160 I and T ratio. Alabama goes five and four. Totally 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.480 went into the tank because Debor wanted to keep him 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.800 inside the pocket. And that's Milroe wants to be able 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.400 to use his legs and and and those sorts of things, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.960 and the timing concepts he has not gotten down yet. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.880 He wants to see the guy wide open before he 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.800 throws that that that is invariably gonna make him late. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.920 He is also errant on some of those throws as well. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.960 All right, we'll be watching Jalen Milroll's throwing at the 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.680 combine and see if we can get any better clarity 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.160 on that. Let's move to the running back position. Is 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.920 there a drill that you think is most indicative of 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.840 fantasy success that you want to watch for running backs? 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.960 Like Christian McCaffrey had one of the great three cone 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.840 drills of all time? Is there is there a Is 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.320 there a drill that you think for combine viewers at home, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.080 if you're watching a running back like we're gonna talk 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.320 about Caleb Johnson a second, So is there one thing, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.640 one drill that you particularly like to watch? 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.840 There is, And I'm gonna split the group at two 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.480 under and ten pounds. You get around threshold sides. The 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.120 guys under that, the airbacks, they need to be good 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.560 in the three cone and then the forty Okay, right, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.080 So those are the two ones you're looking at for 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.320 the smaller backs, the bigger backs above two hundred ten pounds, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.800 the forty core is still important, but the broad jump 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.960 is more important for those guys. You're talking about the acceleration, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.680 the explosion speed to power conversion with those guys, and 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.520 then win your max speed, you know, indicative of that forty. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.080 So those are the tests I look for for the 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.160 running backs. The Gophers played Iowa earlier this year. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.160 Yeah, and mid game, I've told this story by the publicly, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:40.920 I'm texting you, going, Holy shoot this Caleb Johnson, this 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.840 guy's got NFL skills. Yeah, and this I love this guy. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:50.480 So I've seen your comp is Le'Veon Bell to Caleb Johnson, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.320 tell us what you like about Caleb Johnson. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.520 Caleb sees such a good zone back, you know, going 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.920 to the Le'Veon Bell thing, you'll see it will evoke 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.920 that for you on the out side stretch wide zone concepts. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.280 Where which he was Lean Bell's like one of the 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.320 best at all, one of the best as a stretch round. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.920 Yeah, it's the patients and the vision. But he was 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.320 also so good at forcing the linebackers to declare the 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.360 door they were going to walk through before he did. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.520 That's the whole cat and mouse game, right If the 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.400 linebackers have to declare their gaps first, all of a sudden, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.440 you can just pick another door and they're stuck in purgatory. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.800 They're in there on the wrong line human mesh. Yeah, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.560 like that. They can't get out of it. Now you're 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.440 running downfield. That's what Caleb Johnson has. He has that 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.120 same kind of vision, patients and instincts for it to 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.880 force to manipulate those linebackers into coming up and now 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.960 you're stuck. He also very good on the inside zone stuff. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.480 That's more the charging ahead stuff. He was one of 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:41.960 the best backs that we have in this class in 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.600 yards per carry between the two guards, he was over 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.840 six yards at that over heavy volume in the Iowa offense. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:49.920 And then what was added to the Iowa rushing offenses 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.800 past season was the mid zone. So you had all 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.840 three concepts. It evoked with the forty nine ers run, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.080 with the Packers run. That's Tim Lester came from there, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.120 the new offensive coordinator with Iowa so and the Rams 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.679 as well, so their rushing schemes. That's what Caleb Johnson 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.159 was in last year when he went absolutely ballistic. I 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.560 think the thing that people are crazy sleeping on Caleb 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.720 Johnson right now is his speed. They see him at 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.919 two hundred and twenty five pounds, they think he's four sixes. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.840 They think he's high four fives. They think he's a plotter. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.560 He's going to run in the four fours, and I 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.200 think he's gonna run a low four fours. So I 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.280 think he's going to be a huge riser coming out 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:21.760 of this week. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.920 Iowa's GPS system had Caleb Johnson pegged at twenty two 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.400 miles prov Yeah for a back. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.200 His size is crazy, yeah, and he had one of 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.720 the highest breakaway rates in the NCAA as well. So 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.880 I don't get what people are missing. I think it's 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.840 just because the true breakout was the last year, but 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.520 they forget the contact with him that before that. You're 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.119 stuck for your first two years in purgatory of one 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.639 of the worst offenses that we have seen in the FBS, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.960 certainly the Power four level over the last twenty years. Yeah, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.360 at Iowa, very impressive, very impressive. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.400 Okay, let's transition over to Arizona States. Cam Scatabow. He's 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:00.280 one of the most exciting fun players to watch. My 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.320 comp is like a slightly smaller Mike Alstott. He is 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.439 the most physical running back I've seen after the draft 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.480 in years. Yeah, I see there is a guy who 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.640 just five just looking for players to mow down. I 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.399 love watching him. I don't know that it works at 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.080 the NFL level or not. So talk to me about 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.679 him and especially concerns going into the combine, like is 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.400 the is the body size is gonna support the way 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:24.879 he plays at the next level? 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.359 Yeah, that the question is with the frame. Now, he 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.879 has an all time bowling ball frame because he's like 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.040 five to seven and a half and he's two hundred 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.640 and twenty five pounds. It's twenty pounds and somewhere in there, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.040 so you you have that. Like I my comparison for 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.640 him is shorter David Montgomery. David Montgomery at his combine 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.639 out of Iowa State five ten two, twenty two, and 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.919 people might forget this because he's had a good career, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.119 David Montgomery ran a four to six three that was 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.760