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Speaker 1: It's a combine edition with Thor Nystrom.
Speaker 3: Welcome back, my man. Hey, thanks so much. Yeah, we've
Speaker 3: reached Combine week. We've reached Combine week.
Speaker 1: You're leaving in a matter of hours as we're taping
Speaker 1: this now.
Speaker 3: For some people that hear this a little later, they'll
Speaker 3: you'll already be there, that's right. Yeah. So you just
Speaker 3: think of me as in Indianapolis right now as people
Speaker 3: are listening to this, what are the odds that you
Speaker 3: are at, Oh, what's the big steakhouse in India Say almost,
Speaker 3: say almost, yes, almost, pretty good. I will be there
Speaker 3: at least one time for sure. You can come on that.
Speaker 3: You have to have the shrimp cocktail at the cocktail sauce.
Speaker 1: Not even the shrimp. I mean it's good, there's big shrimp.
Speaker 1: It's the cocktail sauce.
Speaker 3: It's the cocktail sauce. Yeah, which is more like a
Speaker 3: fear factor type challenge. It really gets through that they
Speaker 3: have the horse Radish apparently, the grind it fresh every day.
Speaker 3: It is so hot, especially for someone who's taste buds
Speaker 3: were born and bread in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So right, this is it's out of our normal comfort
Speaker 1: zone for sure. The Saint Elmos, I think you can
Speaker 1: buy it. I think they have it. You can't at retail.
Speaker 1: You can buy it in retail. Yeah, Cocktail sauce yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And they say if if.
Speaker 1: It's too spicy for you at Ketchup, which is like
Speaker 1: everything in Minnesota, right, ketchup is spicy in Minnesota. You
Speaker 1: because you can dial it down if you need to.
Speaker 1: There's the Sane Almos at the airport. That's usually we
Speaker 1: just yeah, yep. So a lot of times we'll just well,
Speaker 1: you're waiting for our planes, we'll hit that. Hit it there, Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: you can do that too. It's a I think Indianapolis
Speaker 1: is a pretty fun town. They've got. This is the
Speaker 1: combine is big. It's not even close to gen Con.
Speaker 1: Gen Con is in the same place. It's in that
Speaker 1: convention center. If you can imagine that convention center elbow
Speaker 1: to elbow with people, and there's like sixty thousand people
Speaker 1: in that convention center every day.
Speaker 3: It's nuts. Can I ask what gen Con is?
Speaker 1: It's a board gaming convention. It's the Comic Con of
Speaker 1: board games. Ok, yes, that is gen Con, which is
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 3: Oh, have to check that out some all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've got.
Speaker 1: We've got a I had my whiskey weekend last weekend,
Speaker 1: and some people have I was talking about it on
Speaker 1: the last show. Some people may be interested to know
Speaker 1: what won it was. Blanton's ended up winning. Now we've
Speaker 1: done this thing like fifteen years and nobody had ever
Speaker 1: brought it, and so it found its way up this
Speaker 1: year for the first time. As you know, you can
Speaker 1: ever bring a bottle whiskey. It's ever been there before.
Speaker 1: And the Blands is you know, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: it's extremely well regarded. It's hard to find in some states.
Speaker 1: Other states is easy, very hard in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was that was your unner. Wow, I
Speaker 3: ever had it. I have not had it. That's because
Speaker 3: you're in Minnesota. I've watched Joe Blanton pitch for the Ages.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be happy to be part of that family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt all right, so let's let's dive into the combine.
Speaker 1: So here's here's where headed. I. I asked you for
Speaker 1: some of the key people you're gonna be watching at
Speaker 1: the Combine, and we'll run through a handful of notable
Speaker 1: people at this stage of the process. What you hope
Speaker 1: to see at the combine. For these guys, we'll do quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: running backs, receivers, tight.
Speaker 3: Ends, and also some guys that aren't testing.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: Let's just start there, some of the players who could
Speaker 1: really only go down by testing and draft stock. Let's
Speaker 1: start with Shadura Sanders. Not a big surprise here, but
Speaker 1: they'll be in attendance, but they're not gonna they're not
Speaker 1: gonna do any work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And the consternation over it, I'm kind
Speaker 3: of rolling my eyes at, Like he'll throw at his
Speaker 3: pro day, And I don't really care if either him
Speaker 3: or ward Ro. We have years of their tape where
Speaker 3: they are throwing outdoors and and under duress and and
Speaker 3: actually having to make decisions with the bullets flying. I
Speaker 3: don't really care about the throwing sessions, be them at
Speaker 3: the pro day or at the Combine. So to me,
Speaker 3: it's it's more of a non story. And and to
Speaker 3: your point, the reason that they're sitting out, it's because
Speaker 3: because you're sitting at a poker table and you have
Speaker 3: the most chips at it, why would they you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't you're not the most aggressive player at the
Speaker 3: table and you have the biggest stack. Right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: they're they're they're gonna sit it out, and it sounds
Speaker 3: like both of them will throw at their pro day. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they by both, you also mean cam Ward, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the other one came Ward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the consensus top two quarterbacks. Yeah, cam Ward sitting
Speaker 3: out as well, and that again as expected, the consensus
Speaker 3: QB one. So yeah, it looks like in Coral Gables
Speaker 3: later this process, well we'll see cam mored throw. But
Speaker 3: again that's a it's a non story. Uh, Ashton.
Speaker 1: Now, I want to make sure I get the names right,
Speaker 1: and so if I butcher any names, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, and just interrupting, I'm an all time name butcher.
Speaker 1: So this is remember you and I Alive on air
Speaker 1: last summer figured out that it was Kamani v Dell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been saying it wrong like all spring into summer.
Speaker 3: We're finally getting into like training camp. But I'm a
Speaker 3: bad defender at this guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ashton Genty, Genty, Yeah, Ashton Genty. It will not
Speaker 1: do anything. He's expected to go first half of the
Speaker 1: first round. I'm seeing him mocked his early as Raiders.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, he absolutely has a shot at
Speaker 3: the top ten. I would imagine the floor is going
Speaker 3: to be the Cowboys at twelve. He doesn't need to
Speaker 3: test either. He has some of the best tape that
Speaker 3: you'll ever see for a running back prospect, and right
Speaker 3: now there is distance between him and RB two. I
Speaker 3: think the interesting thing will be Ken o'mari and Hampton,
Speaker 3: Traveon Henderson, Caleb Johnson. Can any of those guys test
Speaker 3: well enough to put any heat on Genty to incentivize
Speaker 3: Genty to do the athletic testing at Boise States Pro
Speaker 3: Day If there is still that enormous gap coming out
Speaker 3: of the combine, I would expect Genty not to athletically
Speaker 3: tested all this process because why would you have to
Speaker 3: write It's same story, right, It's all you can do
Speaker 3: is go back. For instance, Marvin Harrison last process, Marvin
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior, there was zero testing and he obviously went
Speaker 3: in the top five anyway, uh Quinn, youwers is gonna throw?
Speaker 3: I he is gonna throw, Okay, all right, so we
Speaker 3: have confirmation on him. We have confirmation on mill Roe Dart,
Speaker 3: and I believe Riley Leonard has come out as well
Speaker 3: to say that he will throw. But yeah, yours and
Speaker 3: Youwers has to viewers needs to get involved with any
Speaker 3: of the draft process that he can. He is coming
Speaker 3: off a step back of a of a last season
Speaker 3: at Texas. In my opinion, he should have entered the
Speaker 3: transfer portal and taken the bag, the nil bag. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, he decided to Claire, he certainly wasn't going
Speaker 3: to go back to Texas and be the starting quarterback
Speaker 3: next year because that is Arch Manning's job, no doubt.
Speaker 3: So that that's why he isn't. Why yours in the
Speaker 3: draft right now? And but yeah, like yours, he's good
Speaker 3: throwing intermediate. I don't think the arm is as good
Speaker 3: as as people thought coming in. You know, when he
Speaker 3: was being compared to Matthew Stafford coming out of high
Speaker 3: school both sidewinding Texans there and he's not very good
Speaker 3: under duress either yours and then going through the progression
Speaker 3: line like down to the third Ford progression. He's good
Speaker 3: at running your system for you. He does have some
Speaker 3: arm talent, so there's gonna be interested. But yeah, it'll
Speaker 3: be interesting to see his throwing session.
Speaker 1: All right, look, well, let's transition to some other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Let's go Jackson Dart from Ole, Miss See. I saw
Speaker 1: this is somewhere in his senior year of high school,
Speaker 1: he scored seventy nine touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that possible? Yeah, he was playing in Utah
Speaker 3: high school football, so maybe that helped. I don't care,
Speaker 3: but yeah, no, he transferred his last year he'd Interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart had very little high school recruiting interest up
Speaker 3: until he transferred during the COVID season because Utah continued
Speaker 3: high school football. There was a lot of states that
Speaker 3: cancel that, and Jackson Dart transferred to one of the bigger,
Speaker 3: sort of blue blood high school programs in Utah the
Speaker 3: last year. That's when he ripped it up. There was
Speaker 3: a end coach that happened to be watching one of
Speaker 3: the televised games that Jackson Dart did early on in
Speaker 3: that season in September, because the Pac twelve hadn't started
Speaker 3: their season yet. So this guy was home. He sees
Speaker 3: this kid just ripping it up on TV and DMed
Speaker 3: him right after the game. That is how us he
Speaker 3: got involved with Jackson Dart. That's where he started. Transferred
Speaker 3: out because Caleb Williams and Lincoln Riley showed up in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. That's offseason, yeah, so that the journey, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because there's no way Caleb Williams wasn't going to start,
Speaker 1: that's right, So he had to go somewhere else, goes
Speaker 1: and meets up with Lankiff and at Ole Miss reached
Speaker 1: twelve thousand total yards.
Speaker 3: A ton of yards. The stats are ridiculous, and not
Speaker 3: just that, like they're not, you know, not necessarily empty
Speaker 3: calorie stats. Because the Bill Parcells, you know that list
Speaker 3: of seven the checklists that Bill Parcells has, Jackson Dart
Speaker 3: hits every single one of them. And he has the talent,
Speaker 3: he has the pedigree. He was the five star recruit.
Speaker 3: He started three years at Ole Mess and he put
Speaker 3: up he put up those ridiculous stats. He's athletic, he's
Speaker 3: in a decent package. He has pretty good arm talent,
Speaker 3: so that like the package is first round for sure.
Speaker 3: But my concern with him is you ran the Mickey
Speaker 3: Mouse Lane Kiffin system while you were predominantly going to
Speaker 3: your first read. Watching his tape was crazy because Jackson
Speaker 3: Dart really would lock onto that first read and he
Speaker 3: would make some insane trick shot throws as opposed to
Speaker 3: looking to the other side of the field where there
Speaker 3: could be more advantageous more advantageous coverage situation. But he
Speaker 3: was attempting harder throws because of this. That's the one thing.
Speaker 3: Can he in a pro style system when when you're
Speaker 3: away from just locking onto that pre snap reaed, are
Speaker 3: you able to read the defenses with the bullets flying.
Speaker 3: He has all the physical ability and I do think
Speaker 3: he is going to impress at the combine. I think
Speaker 3: his throwing session is going to be good, and if
Speaker 3: he athletically tests, I think he's going to test decently.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the question with his evaluation, it's about going
Speaker 3: down the progression line. So this is Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1: Do you worry how much do you worry about players
Speaker 1: who get a lot of shotgun work and very little
Speaker 1: work under center you? Is that is that much of
Speaker 1: a factor. In the past, I've been that's been something
Speaker 1: that's made me nervous about a quarterback's overall projection, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like, like Drew Locke had that problem
Speaker 1: early on, there were a lot of players that I
Speaker 1: feel like that that was an ultimately hindrance for them.
Speaker 3: Does that worry you at all? I want to match
Speaker 3: players with systems. I want system fits, and so maybe
Speaker 3: yes and no. I would say, like with Dart, I
Speaker 3: want more RPOs in his offensive system at the next level,
Speaker 3: which are out of shotgun, and I want the field
Speaker 3: spread for him. That's just what he is the most
Speaker 3: comfortable at. He has really quick hands in the RPO
Speaker 3: game and it's a convincing play action as well. He's
Speaker 3: good with the bootlegs stuff like that. But I would
Speaker 3: match him with something like that as opposed to trying
Speaker 3: to take him out of his comfort zone.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna drill down more on these players later.
Speaker 1: That's not for this show, but we'll we'll talk a
Speaker 1: lot of Jackson Dart. I think as the sure as
Speaker 1: as the draft gets closer, let's go to Jalen Milroe
Speaker 1: from Alabama. He reminds me a little bit of Dante Culpepper,
Speaker 1: physically dominating big and fast, and then these questions about
Speaker 1: his hand size eight and three quarter inch hands, and
Speaker 1: he's fumbled twenty four times in twenty seven games that
Speaker 1: you know, we saw it here in Minnesota. There's a
Speaker 1: point at which you're such a bad fumbler that your
Speaker 1: career is in jeopardy. Tell me about Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has those small hands. The last one that
Speaker 3: we had in the process was Kenny Pickett with some
Speaker 3: nine inch hands, And so there is gonna be some
Speaker 3: shatter about that, in particular with Milroe because of the fumbles,
Speaker 3: and that is something like it's not a nothing burger
Speaker 3: because a huge part of his utility is running right,
Speaker 3: and so you have to have the ball security. He's
Speaker 3: a really interesting ball of clay because, first of all,
Speaker 3: he's gonna dominate the combine. He is freak, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he is an absolute freak. He's gonna run in the
Speaker 3: four threes at two hundred and twenty plus pounds, and
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a forty inch vertical out
Speaker 3: of him as well. So you're gonna see sort of
Speaker 3: the Anthony Richardson show out of Milroe. And then he
Speaker 3: again he's already confirmed that he gonna do the throwing
Speaker 3: session and this guy needs to he needs to. But
Speaker 3: this guy has a twitchy, elastic shot put shotgun like
Speaker 3: type arm, slingshot type arm. It reminds you of Michael Vick, who,
Speaker 3: interestingly enough, Michael Vick had tiny hands. Oh right, but
Speaker 3: he didn't know that he had that slingshot going downfield. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Michael Vick, I believe was eight and a half inches,
Speaker 3: So it was like the smallest pair of hands going
Speaker 3: back like thirty forty years in the NFL. As far
Speaker 3: as somebody who started at quarterback.
Speaker 1: It never dawned on me that I could beat Michael
Speaker 1: Vick in thumb wrestling.
Speaker 3: You can till now. You absolutely could have. Yeah I
Speaker 3: could have. Yeah, I'm gonna move along before I make
Speaker 3: an inappropriate joke. But but yeah, no, I Millroe. He's
Speaker 3: going to impress with the athletic tests, and he's going
Speaker 3: to impress in the throwing session. The reason he didn't
Speaker 3: at the senior boat there's more intermediate stuff there. That's
Speaker 3: the stuff that he badly struggled with in college, whereas
Speaker 3: the deep stuff he was tremendous so over the last
Speaker 3: two years. So that's you know, you start in the
Speaker 3: whole time last two years at Alabama, Milroe on throws
Speaker 3: twenty plus air yards downfield thirty six to four td
Speaker 3: I and T rate and if you want more advanced
Speaker 3: stats on it, forty two big time throws against only
Speaker 3: one turnover worthy play on one hundred and twenty three
Speaker 3: such attempts. Wow, it sounds great. It sounds great, and
Speaker 3: he's he could be one of the best scramblers in
Speaker 3: NFL history. So if you have a nice starter kit. However,
Speaker 3: he had get this within nineteen yards of the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage td I and T rate over the last
Speaker 3: two years of thirteen to thirteen. That's terrible. It is horrid.
Speaker 3: And at the senior ball, that's the easy stuff, that's
Speaker 3: the that's easy stot zero to nineteen yards. This is
Speaker 3: the guy who it's like Happy Gilmore. Happy Gilmore crushed
Speaker 3: the ball out of the tee and no one can
Speaker 3: hit drives like Happy Gilmore. He can't putt. The NFL
Speaker 3: needs to teach Jalen Milroe how to putt. We got
Speaker 3: to get him one of the putters that is like
Speaker 3: a hockey stick, you know, like happy dat. But that's
Speaker 3: the problem. And this was the frustration last year with
Speaker 3: Kaylen Debor and Alabama, and I think it's part of
Speaker 3: the reason why Milroe went into the tank. Down the stretch,
Speaker 3: he had a ten to one td I and T rate.
Speaker 3: At the end of September he ripped up Georgia. Last
Speaker 3: game of September, he had almost five hundred total yards.
Speaker 3: Last nine games, Milroe had a six to ten td
Speaker 3: I and T ratio. Alabama goes five and four. Totally
Speaker 3: went into the tank because Debor wanted to keep him
Speaker 3: inside the pocket. And that's Milroe wants to be able
Speaker 3: to use his legs and and and those sorts of things,
Speaker 3: and the timing concepts he has not gotten down yet.
Speaker 3: He wants to see the guy wide open before he
Speaker 3: throws that that that is invariably gonna make him late.
Speaker 3: He is also errant on some of those throws as well.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be watching Jalen Milroll's throwing at the
Speaker 1: combine and see if we can get any better clarity
Speaker 1: on that. Let's move to the running back position. Is
Speaker 1: there a drill that you think is most indicative of
Speaker 1: fantasy success that you want to watch for running backs?
Speaker 1: Like Christian McCaffrey had one of the great three cone
Speaker 1: drills of all time? Is there is there a Is
Speaker 1: there a drill that you think for combine viewers at home,
Speaker 1: if you're watching a running back like we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about Caleb Johnson a second, So is there one thing,
Speaker 1: one drill that you particularly like to watch?
Speaker 3: There is, And I'm gonna split the group at two
Speaker 3: under and ten pounds. You get around threshold sides. The
Speaker 3: guys under that, the airbacks, they need to be good
Speaker 3: in the three cone and then the forty Okay, right,
Speaker 3: So those are the two ones you're looking at for
Speaker 3: the smaller backs, the bigger backs above two hundred ten pounds,
Speaker 3: the forty core is still important, but the broad jump
Speaker 3: is more important for those guys. You're talking about the acceleration,
Speaker 3: the explosion speed to power conversion with those guys, and
Speaker 3: then win your max speed, you know, indicative of that forty.
Speaker 3: So those are the tests I look for for the
Speaker 3: running backs. The Gophers played Iowa earlier this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and mid game, I've told this story by the publicly,
Speaker 1: I'm texting you, going, Holy shoot this Caleb Johnson, this
Speaker 1: guy's got NFL skills. Yeah, and this I love this guy.
Speaker 1: So I've seen your comp is Le'Veon Bell to Caleb Johnson,
Speaker 1: tell us what you like about Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 3: Caleb sees such a good zone back, you know, going
Speaker 3: to the Le'Veon Bell thing, you'll see it will evoke
Speaker 3: that for you on the out side stretch wide zone concepts.
Speaker 1: Where which he was Lean Bell's like one of the
Speaker 1: best at all, one of the best as a stretch round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the patients and the vision. But he was
Speaker 3: also so good at forcing the linebackers to declare the
Speaker 3: door they were going to walk through before he did.
Speaker 3: That's the whole cat and mouse game, right If the
Speaker 3: linebackers have to declare their gaps first, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you can just pick another door and they're stuck in purgatory.
Speaker 3: They're in there on the wrong line human mesh. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like that. They can't get out of it. Now you're
Speaker 3: running downfield. That's what Caleb Johnson has. He has that
Speaker 3: same kind of vision, patients and instincts for it to
Speaker 3: force to manipulate those linebackers into coming up and now
Speaker 3: you're stuck. He also very good on the inside zone stuff.
Speaker 3: That's more the charging ahead stuff. He was one of
Speaker 3: the best backs that we have in this class in
Speaker 3: yards per carry between the two guards, he was over
Speaker 3: six yards at that over heavy volume in the Iowa offense.
Speaker 3: And then what was added to the Iowa rushing offenses
Speaker 3: past season was the mid zone. So you had all
Speaker 3: three concepts. It evoked with the forty nine ers run,
Speaker 3: with the Packers run. That's Tim Lester came from there,
Speaker 3: the new offensive coordinator with Iowa so and the Rams
Speaker 3: as well, so their rushing schemes. That's what Caleb Johnson
Speaker 3: was in last year when he went absolutely ballistic. I
Speaker 3: think the thing that people are crazy sleeping on Caleb
Speaker 3: Johnson right now is his speed. They see him at
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five pounds, they think he's four sixes.
Speaker 3: They think he's high four fives. They think he's a plotter.
Speaker 3: He's going to run in the four fours, and I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna run a low four fours. So I
Speaker 3: think he's going to be a huge riser coming out
Speaker 3: of this week.
Speaker 1: Iowa's GPS system had Caleb Johnson pegged at twenty two
Speaker 1: miles prov Yeah for a back.
Speaker 3: His size is crazy, yeah, and he had one of
Speaker 3: the highest breakaway rates in the NCAA as well. So
Speaker 3: I don't get what people are missing. I think it's
Speaker 3: just because the true breakout was the last year, but
Speaker 3: they forget the contact with him that before that. You're
Speaker 3: stuck for your first two years in purgatory of one
Speaker 3: of the worst offenses that we have seen in the FBS,
Speaker 3: certainly the Power four level over the last twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: at Iowa, very impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's transition over to Arizona States. Cam Scatabow. He's
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting fun players to watch. My
Speaker 1: comp is like a slightly smaller Mike Alstott. He is
Speaker 1: the most physical running back I've seen after the draft
Speaker 1: in years. Yeah, I see there is a guy who
Speaker 1: just five just looking for players to mow down. I
Speaker 1: love watching him. I don't know that it works at
Speaker 1: the NFL level or not. So talk to me about
Speaker 1: him and especially concerns going into the combine, like is
Speaker 1: the is the body size is gonna support the way
Speaker 1: he plays at the next level?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the question is with the frame. Now, he
Speaker 3: has an all time bowling ball frame because he's like
Speaker 3: five to seven and a half and he's two hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty five pounds. It's twenty pounds and somewhere in there,
Speaker 3: so you you have that. Like I my comparison for
Speaker 3: him is shorter David Montgomery. David Montgomery at his combine
Speaker 3: out of Iowa State five ten two, twenty two, and
Speaker 3: people might forget this because he's had a good career,
Speaker 3: David Montgomery ran a four to six three that was
Speaker 3: twenty six percent and I'll shock even I did not
Speaker 3: remember that at all. His vertical jump David Montgomery was
Speaker 3: first percentile the month per neural. The bottom twenty eight
Speaker 3: point five was his vertical jump. I could do that.
Speaker 3: I think we could hit thirty. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: David Montgomery did not test well. I don't expect Scataboo
Speaker 3: to test very well either. The forty is where in
Speaker 3: particular will he run it? I I don't know that
Speaker 3: he will. The agility scores, I think he is gonna
Speaker 3: do better. I would like to think that he would
Speaker 3: outjump mister Montgomery as well, because uh, Scataboo does have bursts,
Speaker 3: but the long speed is the thing that's lacking. There
Speaker 3: will be interesting to see if he tests. What do
Speaker 3: you what do you think he's going to test at
Speaker 3: in the forty I think you would probably set over
Speaker 3: under like four five am. That's what I'm thinking, like
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't have that second gear. He
Speaker 1: wins down field by tossing aside a cornerback.
Speaker 3: He's an awesome he like outside of gent was of
Speaker 3: course to tackle breaking god, he had one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty one last year, Scataboo was number two in the
Speaker 3: NPS with one oh two. So yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 3: that's what he does. He has really good feet. He
Speaker 3: can change the angle like at the launch point for
Speaker 3: the linebacker and then you're not taking him down with
Speaker 3: an off angle attempt, an arm tackle at timp. He's
Speaker 3: a fighter, and again everything is just packed in with him.
Speaker 3: So he just has all the muscle and the bulk
Speaker 3: right there, just packed in.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Damian Martinez next from Miami. Had a
Speaker 1: higher EPA than Nashon genty, higher success rate than Nation
Speaker 1: genty three straight years of six yards per attempt or more.
Speaker 3: But Miami if rarely gave him the ball. It was.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of Damian Pierce at Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where you know, like every time, every time you're
Speaker 1: looking at him, You're like, what he got the He
Speaker 1: looks great?
Speaker 3: Why didn't they give him the ball? What do they
Speaker 3: know that we don't know for sure. Yeah, I love
Speaker 3: that you evoked that because it is similar where peer
Speaker 3: Scott slept On and Martinez is absolutely getting slept on
Speaker 3: and you know the last So the first couple of
Speaker 3: years he was at Oregon State and it was more
Speaker 3: the physical downhill uh type, you know, running scheme there,
Speaker 3: and he was great at that. And then he transferred
Speaker 3: to Miami. He goes into Shannon Dawson air raid, so
Speaker 3: you have the thinner boxes, but you know, it was
Speaker 3: a different sort of a scheme there. You have less
Speaker 3: people blocking as well. But he acquitted himself tremendously well
Speaker 3: despite the fact that this team is throwing, throwing, throwing, right,
Speaker 3: you have Cam Whady, have Restrepoh, you have Royo, I
Speaker 3: mean George, you get going on and on and on.
Speaker 3: And then they had a backfield committee. I think that
Speaker 3: was a what that coaching staff prefers is to have
Speaker 3: the two different guys. But between those two things, the
Speaker 3: carries go down. But if you just look at the
Speaker 3: perk carry, they match up really well with the awesome
Speaker 3: numbers he was putting up before that. PFF rushing grade
Speaker 3: last year ninety one point one. Dang, PFF running grade
Speaker 3: ninety four point three. It's one of the high, the
Speaker 3: highest in the class. He can he can catch a
Speaker 3: little bit. He can certainly pass a block. So it's
Speaker 3: a guy that you know was underutilized. It I think
Speaker 3: is being slept on right now. I love his feet
Speaker 3: and I love his aggression. Right you have the power
Speaker 3: thing with the feet. Yeah, that sort of a dichotomy.
Speaker 3: You get the broken tackles from that. He has very
Speaker 3: good vision as well. A big fan of Damien Martinez.
Speaker 1: Okay, So at the combine is here's weight going to
Speaker 1: be something people are to be watching to see.
Speaker 3: You know, he runs like a power back up. But
Speaker 3: I think people.
Speaker 1: Think he's heavier than he may actually turn out to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are people going to be looking to watching the scale
Speaker 1: for Damien Martinez when he when he weighs in, they.
Speaker 3: Might be surprised if they weren't paying attention, Like at
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, because Martinez at Oregon State they listened
Speaker 3: him at two forty one. At Miami, I believe it
Speaker 3: was two thirty six. And so it's not that big.
Speaker 3: I don't think. No, he's not. He weighed into the
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl at two twenty six and when oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I when realize they weighed in there. Yeah, And when
Speaker 3: I was talking to Martinez down there, I was setting
Speaker 3: up this question for him basically of like, did you
Speaker 3: lose weight so that you could go into the air raid?
Speaker 3: Was that a part of it? And then you know,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of talk through the progression of being
Speaker 3: the bigger back at Oregon State and you know at
Speaker 3: Miami you lose six pounds or whatever. So I was
Speaker 3: setting that up. I was like, you know, you're two
Speaker 3: forty one at Oregon State and to thirty six. And
Speaker 3: he stops me and he goes, dude, I've never played
Speaker 3: a game over two hundred and thirty pounds. And I
Speaker 3: was like, what, that's crazy. And they were by like
Speaker 3: sixteen pounds or something, so they would never you know, scandalous.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, he's he is more like your high
Speaker 3: to two twenties. You know, he's gonna be two twenty
Speaker 3: six to twenty eight, so somewhere in there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the game fits really really well. And the footwork again
Speaker 3: in conjunction with with that power. Uh, Damian Martinez being
Speaker 3: slept on right now?
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our final running back Ali
Speaker 1: Gordon from Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know a lot about this kid. What
Speaker 3: do I need to know? Yeah? So what are you
Speaker 3: looking for at the combine? Well, with him, it's the
Speaker 3: testing because we're we are we are interested to see
Speaker 3: where does Allie Gordon test? The athleticism is is the
Speaker 3: thing with him. He's a big back and he is
Speaker 3: multi skilled too. He caught a whole bunch of balls
Speaker 3: in college. He can pass block a little bit, but
Speaker 3: where where is that athletic profile? In twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: he put up an enormous season Ollie Gordon twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: his stats were basically Cleveland half despite the fact he was,
Speaker 3: you know, getting almost as much usage. Show was like,
Speaker 3: why was that? I think it was because of the
Speaker 3: supporting cast that his quarterback play was not very good.
Speaker 3: The offensive line wasn't good. Oklahoma State likes to spread
Speaker 3: the field. Quarterback couldn't throw down the field, So all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you had stack box's against you know,
Speaker 3: your minimal protection five to five offensive lineman. Maybe they
Speaker 3: would have one other guy back there to block. Alli
Speaker 3: Gordon got ganged up on last year. Was the whole
Speaker 3: sum and substance of it. I think this guy is
Speaker 3: a context dependent type back and a usage usage specific
Speaker 3: type back. When you look at him towards the NFL, basically,
Speaker 3: I think you're looking at a poor man's Andre Harris.
Speaker 3: It's a very similar type physical package. I think you're
Speaker 3: gonna get similar testing there and in the same way
Speaker 3: Ali Gordon. He's gonna catch the ball for you, be reliable,
Speaker 3: not going to give you the explosive plays he is
Speaker 3: lacking in the long speed. He has build up speed
Speaker 3: that he was able to access in twenty twenty three
Speaker 3: more with the better blocking last year, you didn't see that.
Speaker 3: That's why the stats ended up getting cleve. But just
Speaker 3: curious to see how he ends up testing. All right,
Speaker 3: Le's take a break. When we come back, let's go
Speaker 3: to the wide receivers. Who are the people that you
Speaker 3: are most looking forward to seeing at the combine? What
Speaker 3: do you want to see from them at the combine?
Speaker 3: Paul Charchi and Thorneistrom with you. Fantasy Football Weekly continues
Speaker 3: in a moment Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. All right,
Speaker 3: so here's here's the first big challenge. Everybody calls him
Speaker 3: Teed McMillan, but I feel.
Speaker 1: Like I at least got to give it a go.
Speaker 1: TETAROA McMillan. That's pretty good? Pretty is that pretty good?
Speaker 3: Okay? Good? Arizona.
Speaker 1: He's I think he entered the season as the probable
Speaker 1: first overall receiver, and they start hearing his name at
Speaker 1: the very beginning of the college season as an elite prospect,
Speaker 1: and then he went on to have a fantastic season,
Speaker 1: and I think it feels like he's going to be
Speaker 1: the first wide receiver taken in the draft, not counting
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter if you count him as a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: For sure, and his McMillan's game has been nippicked a
Speaker 3: little bit, but he is wide receiver one if you
Speaker 3: don't count Hunters as a wide receiver. McMillan six foot five,
Speaker 3: he's just south at two hundred and fifteen pounds. He
Speaker 3: reminds me a lot of a taller Drake London. It's
Speaker 3: the same kind of a thing that the ball skills,
Speaker 3: the use of the body, the body control. McMillan I
Speaker 3: think is a bit better of a route runner than
Speaker 3: he has given credit for. You know, people get skittish
Speaker 3: with the guy where it's like, oh, he's led by
Speaker 3: his ball skills, and McMillan's ball skills aren't saying he
Speaker 3: has this crazy catch radius so like, but like he
Speaker 3: also is a decent route runner, like I said, Like,
Speaker 3: there's smoothness and fluidity to the way that he runs
Speaker 3: his route, so he is able to create a little
Speaker 3: bit of separation the intermediate range and you put anything
Speaker 3: around him, it's like a fisherman's net. With his catch radius.
Speaker 3: He is coming down with that ball and he can
Speaker 3: go low for it to catch it outside of his frame.
Speaker 3: Like I said, very very smooth. Tom McMillan's going to
Speaker 3: be the top wide receiver. Curious as far as that goes.
Speaker 3: Will he do the agility stuff? I think for sure
Speaker 3: you're going to see him run the forty Some of
Speaker 3: these taller, bigger receivers we've seen come out last five
Speaker 3: I have six seven years. They have ducked the agility drills.
Speaker 3: So and some of them who haven't, they wish they did.
Speaker 3: DK metcalf, I'm looking at you so well, will McMillan
Speaker 3: do the agilities. Curious on that, but yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you think you know, he's not a burner
Speaker 1: ted being built. This is you know, what do you
Speaker 1: think he comes in at the forty What are you
Speaker 1: expecting four?
Speaker 3: Five or five? Yeah, something like that. And you know what,
Speaker 3: that's fine for his first style of play. That is
Speaker 3: absolutely gonna wine down field. Ye, you can get off
Speaker 3: the line just fine, and you're gonna need a couple
Speaker 3: guys downfield with him to box him out, yeah, to
Speaker 3: try to knock that ball down.
Speaker 1: That's right, All right, let's transition to Luther Burton from
Speaker 1: Miszoo pretty much. It seems to me if I think
Speaker 1: I'm seeing pretty universally the wide receiver two in this
Speaker 1: draft class.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although heading into the combine now we're we're starting
Speaker 3: to it's starting like some negative pub for him. I
Speaker 3: saw like Kuiper's recent mock draft. I don't believe he
Speaker 3: was in round one or Jeremiah's I'm pretty sure. Okay, So, yeah,
Speaker 3: Burden coming off a poor season. We were gonna give
Speaker 3: him the contextual benefit of the debt for that, but
Speaker 3: they did not have good quarterback play. He is going
Speaker 3: to test really well. My sheets from I have the
Speaker 3: NFL's at least their numbers on him from over the
Speaker 3: over the off season, they had them between four to
Speaker 3: three eight I think was the estimated on him, and
Speaker 3: potential low four threes as well. So you have a
Speaker 3: very explosive player issue with Burden, and I think this
Speaker 3: is why he is getting nit picked. Unless there is
Speaker 3: a character thing that that I don't know about, will
Speaker 3: find out and doing on that. But he is he
Speaker 3: certainly is a slot. Uh, he is a slot only
Speaker 3: is a smaller receiver. But you also have to manufacture
Speaker 3: that touches for him a little bit. It's it's within
Speaker 3: ten yards of the line of scrimmage. He's magic with
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. You just have to get
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. I think that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of Deebo Samuel and Luther Burton. The way that
Speaker 3: he plays the game.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty pretty special cop. Yeah, there are many
Speaker 1: guys like Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and maybe you know what we'll say, Disco
Speaker 3: on Debo, we'll do that thinglo Reid well believe it
Speaker 3: for too is base that. Yeah, it's it's not Malachi Corley.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna go that far. But uh, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the thing with him. So if your offense is in
Speaker 3: need of something like that, that you're gonna be attracting him.
Speaker 3: If not, you're not. But like, for instance, the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 3: I think are would be a tremendous fit for burn
Speaker 3: team that needs a slot receiver where you have the
Speaker 3: boundary and the tight end already taken care of. And
Speaker 3: is he is Luther Burton specifically a slot receiver. He
Speaker 3: has like a slot Okay, all right, yeah in college
Speaker 3: as well, very very little on the boundary. Jalen Royals
Speaker 3: from Utah State.
Speaker 1: We don't get it, you know, Utah and Utah State
Speaker 1: popping up, you know in ways that they never used to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Royals.
Speaker 1: Now it was Mountain West competition, but caught a lot
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 1: He is thought to be not particularly fast, but very productive.
Speaker 1: So what are you looking for at the combine from
Speaker 1: Jalen Royals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Utah, Utah, Los Jackson, dart to Los Angeles and
Speaker 3: then to Mississippi. But they got back Jalen Royals from Georgia. Okay,
Speaker 3: Jalen Royals was totally he went from Georgia. He was
Speaker 3: totally overlooked in the recruiting process. He actually went to
Speaker 3: Georgia at Military Institute coming out of high school, Okay,
Speaker 3: and that's when he ended up transferring to Utah State
Speaker 3: after that. He obviously was a good athlete. He played
Speaker 3: basketball as well. The thing he's going to do really
Speaker 3: good at is the jumps. You're gonna see some explosive
Speaker 3: jumps for Jalen Royals, assuming that his foot is good
Speaker 3: to go now. I think it will be because a
Speaker 3: month ago at the Senior but he was out there,
Speaker 3: he was competing, He wanted to be out there, but
Speaker 3: he had the season ending injury at the end of
Speaker 3: October in college football that knocked him out for the season.
Speaker 3: We weren't sure if we were going to see him
Speaker 3: at the Senior, but we did. He did confirm to
Speaker 3: us that he was not one hundred percent there. Like
Speaker 3: I said, hope that he has been one hundred percent
Speaker 3: long enough to have trained for these things where he'll
Speaker 3: be comfortable going out and doing the full game at
Speaker 3: a test thing. But he's a really interesting receiver five
Speaker 3: foot eleven, two hundred and ten pounds, so he's like
Speaker 3: your bowling ball build for a wide receiver. I talked
Speaker 3: to him doubt when I asked him about what the
Speaker 3: NFL was talking to him about as far as usage
Speaker 3: for the next level. He played the boundary, he has
Speaker 3: played the slot. He said early on last year was
Speaker 3: seventy eight percent was on the outside. He said early on,
Speaker 3: teams were talking to him about being a big, bigger slot,
Speaker 3: like the bigger forty five coup a slot, and being
Speaker 3: more the efficiency guy. You get off the line really
Speaker 3: quick with Royals. He is a good route runner. He
Speaker 3: is very precise that deep speed. I hope he runs
Speaker 3: because I would be curious to see where he ends
Speaker 3: up running. But yeah, I think that's what you're looking
Speaker 3: at at the next level.
Speaker 1: As a quick aside, look at how much, especially Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup has changed for slot receivers. Yep, you know, Khalil
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir just signed a sixty million dollar extension. As
Speaker 1: the teams go to receiver running from the slot. And
Speaker 1: I think teams are now, you know, third receivers are
Speaker 1: on the field like eighty percent of the plays. They're
Speaker 1: now you know, they are now really ready to build
Speaker 1: passing offenses around great slot receivers.
Speaker 3: Yeah they're Yeah, they're there. Are starters, and they're valued starters. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, if you were a slot only,
Speaker 3: oh you're you know right, Yeah, you'd start to get
Speaker 3: pushed on draft boards. But yeah, it's a valuable part
Speaker 3: of offense. And now for sure, all right, saveon Williams
Speaker 3: and DC guy is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I know you've got some skepticism here, but
Speaker 1: he is. He's crazy fast, you know, but cheap speed
Speaker 1: has never been one of has always been a red
Speaker 1: flag trade for you. So talk to me about Savion
Speaker 1: Williams and especially what could he do to change your
Speaker 1: mind at the combine.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for him because the couple things
Speaker 3: that I have the concerns about you aren't able to
Speaker 3: test for there occasionally for him, and that is we're
Speaker 3: out running in ball skills. But what you have here
Speaker 3: is an incredible physical package and people are going to
Speaker 3: be drooling over him. In Indianapolis, he was listed by
Speaker 3: TCU six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds.
Speaker 3: They clocked him on five twenty five. They clocked him
Speaker 3: on their GPS twenty two point five miles per hour,
Speaker 3: which is utterly ridiculous. Bruce Feldman reported last offseason, Williams
Speaker 3: had a ten to six broad jump and a forty
Speaker 3: inch vertical in addition to all that. And then you
Speaker 3: look at like last year, sixty catches, six hundred eleven yeards,
Speaker 3: six touchdowns, three one hundred and thirty two rushing yards
Speaker 3: in addition to that six more touchdowns, and he was
Speaker 3: a former high school quarterback who also completed all three
Speaker 3: trick pass plays that he did. Okay, so it's like
Speaker 3: you look at it from it's like, oh, he's got
Speaker 3: the versatility the NFL likes. He's in this perfect physical package.
Speaker 3: He's an athletic freak. You can do all these different
Speaker 3: things with them. But the inability to run the routes
Speaker 3: and just some metrics for you on this charge. Twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two and twenty twenty three, those were the first
Speaker 3: two years that he was the starter of. TCU tried
Speaker 3: to use Williams as a traditional boundary receiver. He had
Speaker 3: a dots over eleven and a half yards both those seasons.
Speaker 3: But in those two seasons, according to PFF, Williams was
Speaker 3: fifty first and thirty fifth percentile in separation percentage against
Speaker 3: single coverage. He wasn't gaining separation on the boundary and
Speaker 3: then he the drop seas. The ball skills are wildly
Speaker 3: inconsistent with Williams, so this year they radically change his usage,
Speaker 3: which leads to the big break Aull year, and he
Speaker 3: basically became your cord Aero Patterson, your laviska chanall your
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore manufactured touchdow Dude. You got the carries out
Speaker 3: of him, you got the short passes. I've seen people
Speaker 3: be like, oh, but he went eight for nine last
Speaker 3: season and contested catch situation. Sure, five of those came
Speaker 3: within nine yards of the line of the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Five of his drops I think he had eight drops, Yeah,
Speaker 3: five of them were within nine yards of the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, so almost all of his work was coming there.
Speaker 3: He had very few catches. I think it was nine
Speaker 3: catches he had that it was more than nine yards downfield,
Speaker 3: So almost all the production coming in close. I think
Speaker 3: that's what he is at the end of the bad sign.
Speaker 3: It's a bad sign, but you know the NFL will
Speaker 3: start dreaming on him when he goes there. He's gonna
Speaker 3: be you know, six four two twenty five, and he's
Speaker 3: gonna run like a deer and everyone's gonna be like,
Speaker 3: oh gosh, look at this kid. He's gonna be a star.
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't think he's gonna be a star.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a utility, manufactured touch guy
Speaker 3: at the next level, no matter how well he tests.
Speaker 3: So if you hear this after he tests and oh guy,
Speaker 3: that guy ten rounds, yeah, exactly, just keep in mind
Speaker 3: what he is.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the tight end position. Tyler
Speaker 1: Warren Penn State. Let's I know he's one of the
Speaker 1: that you want to you want to follow. Tell me
Speaker 1: more about Tyler Warren. Honestly, I don't have anything on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if Tyler Warren ends up testing
Speaker 3: because he is tight end one right now. And it's
Speaker 3: not Harold Fannin. No, no, fann In probably three I would, yeah,
Speaker 3: but Warren in this enormous physical package. He is six
Speaker 3: sixty five six two hundred and sixty pounds, and man,
Speaker 3: can that guy move. This past season he broke out,
Speaker 3: they got a new offensive coordinator there, and then THEO
Speaker 3: Johnson was was, you know, off to the NFL and
Speaker 3: they started manufacturing all he's touching for Tyler Warren, he
Speaker 3: had a bunch of runs. It was like brock Bowers
Speaker 3: type usage. Even scored a touchdown a trick play where
Speaker 3: he started out as the center, everybody lined up to
Speaker 3: his right and he was an eligible receiver. He snapped
Speaker 3: the shotgun snap, then ran a fly route, and then
Speaker 3: the quarterback just chucked it up to him and he
Speaker 3: went and mossed some poor safety in the back of
Speaker 3: the end zone. So Tyler Warren, he can do all
Speaker 3: these these different kinds of things in terms of the
Speaker 3: physical package with the athleticism. That's where he gets a
Speaker 3: vote to Gronk. The difference I would tell people is
Speaker 3: Gronk was one of the great tight end blockers that
Speaker 3: we've ever seen in line. Warren is just to get
Speaker 3: you by kind of a blocker. But that doesn't people
Speaker 3: don't care anymore. In fantasy. This guy's gonna get you
Speaker 3: what you want, Okay, Tyler Warren will watch you. What
Speaker 3: do you want to see at the combine from him?
Speaker 3: I want to see him test period because since he
Speaker 3: is the tight end one, I'm expecting sort of a
Speaker 3: late pullout of that. But I would love it if
Speaker 3: he went out because he's an athletic free So I
Speaker 3: would love it if you went out there and just
Speaker 3: put on a show. Colston Loveland from Michigan, this guy
Speaker 3: is the most skilled receiver of the tight ends like that.
Speaker 3: You know, Warren is the bigger package. He is a
Speaker 3: better athlete and you can do some more stuff with him,
Speaker 3: But just in terms of the pure mechanics of receiving,
Speaker 3: Loveland is the most skilled, tremendous route runner, tremendous ball skills.
Speaker 3: We saw that in twenty twenty three for the national
Speaker 3: champion Michigan Wolverines when he was working with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3: This past season, Michigan's quarterback play was horrible, so you
Speaker 3: didn't get to see it quite as much. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he is a very very skilled receiver and the NFL
Speaker 3: is very very high on him. They're watching the tape
Speaker 3: from previous to this past season. And of course Colson
Speaker 3: Loveland's college coach is coaching in the NFL right now,
Speaker 3: and you're a team that could use that tight end
Speaker 3: a guy just like him. So keep an eye on
Speaker 3: the Chargers. Okay, we'll watch it. What round is Colson Loveland?
Speaker 3: You going to go in the first? Both? Okay, so
Speaker 3: all charmers will be picking. What do they pick like
Speaker 3: the twenty second? I believe second. Yeah, something to keep
Speaker 3: an eye on. I think I think he Loveland could
Speaker 3: get stolen from Harbaugh two picks ahead of them by
Speaker 3: mister Sean Payton. That yeah, and they want the joker guy.
Speaker 3: That is what Colson Loveland is. Well, unless you believe
Speaker 3: this Gronk report. Oh, Grenk's gonna come out and flavor
Speaker 3: yeah for the Broncos. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's an acquaintance and a name that many are familiar
Speaker 1: with in the fantasy community. Ce Salami, who's been working
Speaker 1: with football guys, but his primary job is Denver Sports Radio,
Speaker 1: and he reported that Gronk wants to come play for
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, was considering playing for Sean Payton.
Speaker 3: That's wow, that's yeah, that would be a while, That
Speaker 3: would be would be incredible kidding.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Harold fannin Bowling Green set
Speaker 1: the single season FBS record for tight ends and receptions
Speaker 1: and receiving yards and set three different pff ERA records
Speaker 1: yards have to catch, forced miss tackles, and receiving grade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Harold Fannon.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he be going First, is it just because
Speaker 1: he played at Bowling Green, well, because he's he's six
Speaker 1: foot three, two thirty.
Speaker 3: Eight, and then yes, and then problem well, internal short,
Speaker 3: you're not going to have him in line, so he's
Speaker 3: gonna be the slot and he's going to be the
Speaker 3: the move around type type guy as well. So is
Speaker 3: he and Isaiah Likely? I asked him, You're gonna love this,
Speaker 3: I asked. I ask all the players Senior Bowl combine,
Speaker 3: I asked them for their own color. And usually they're
Speaker 3: absolutely ludicrous, you know Kronk, Yeah, like a small small
Speaker 3: airback saying Le'Veon bell. You know, they always go to
Speaker 3: the very top. Harold Fannon had the most realistic self
Speaker 3: comp I've ever heard. He said, Ija Likely all right.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, you have self awareness.
Speaker 3: It was like, that is exactly what you are and
Speaker 3: that and then yeah, I think you know, you could
Speaker 3: get the utility out of him in the backfield doing
Speaker 3: ender rounds with him. He's actually a decent lead blocker.
Speaker 3: He just you can't put him against the ward Daddy
Speaker 3: edge rushers in the NFL in line, but he does
Speaker 3: give effort as a blocker, but the receiving utility is
Speaker 3: what you're you're going for there, over heavy, heavy targets
Speaker 3: in college two point two percent drop rate career. That's incredible.
Speaker 3: Over over the volume that that he had. This kid
Speaker 3: can do a whole lot of stuff, and I think
Speaker 3: he is going to wow with his testing and impress
Speaker 3: and surprise. People down in Mobile were kind of grumbling like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's Harold Fannom, Like he's not moving, you know, around
Speaker 3: as well as I as I thought he would. But
Speaker 3: then we got the metrics back from the GPS system,
Speaker 3: the Zebra system that they have down there in Mobile.
Speaker 3: Fannin had the fourth highest max feed of any tight
Speaker 3: end going back to win that system. The GPS system
Speaker 3: was introduced in twenty eighteen at the Senior Bowl. So
Speaker 3: of all those tight ends, fourth highest max speed and
Speaker 3: then eighties sports Travis May he had some called on
Speaker 3: field athleticism score where he can bind your max speed
Speaker 3: and then the other athletic metrics that we get from
Speaker 3: the GPS down and mobile max decceleration max acceleration being
Speaker 3: two of them. He sort of puts them all together
Speaker 3: and then has an equation. Fannin tested or was the
Speaker 3: most athletic tight end with the by the GPS data
Speaker 3: that has been at the Senior Bowl since twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: according to Travis Mays Metrics, So he was moving around
Speaker 3: really well. It's like your eyes are lying to you
Speaker 3: a little bit. He's again he's on the smaller side.
Speaker 3: He's a bit of an unorthodox mover, sort of like
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson in some ways where people think he's slow
Speaker 3: because Caleb Johnson doesn't really move his arms when he's running.
Speaker 3: You could balance a tea cup on the top of
Speaker 3: his helmet for the last thirty yards of his touchdown runs. Wow,
Speaker 3: Fannin's a bit unorthodox too, and I think that explains
Speaker 3: why he gets separation as well. He moves better. He's
Speaker 3: snappier than you would think, certainly more fluid, and I
Speaker 3: think he has more long speed than people are giving
Speaker 3: him credit for. So I think he's gonna open some
Speaker 3: eyes in Indianapolis. Harold fan into.
Speaker 1: Me feels like just base, I don't he wasn't watching
Speaker 1: Bowling Green football.
Speaker 3: You know, I was maction baby Max.
Speaker 1: It yeah, it just if what you're saying is true,
Speaker 1: it just feels like he's gonna be one of these
Speaker 1: guys he just gets dinged for being at Bowling Green,
Speaker 1: He's gonna if he finds himself in the right offense,
Speaker 1: that will be way more productive than his draft slot's
Speaker 1: gonna end up being.
Speaker 3: For sure in terms of the numbers. For sure. That's
Speaker 3: why a team is drafting him is to advance the
Speaker 3: ball forward right and the shifting stuff you make the
Speaker 3: defense tip off to the zone or the man in advance.
Speaker 3: You get him isolated on some slow footed strong safety
Speaker 3: or middle lineback or whatever that he can rip up
Speaker 3: and coverage. You get him on a team where he
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be the top option. Obviously Bowling Green
Speaker 3: was just every single time they were thrown to him.
Speaker 3: I bet where he's more like the third option, whatever
Speaker 3: fourth option. That's that's where he is really going to
Speaker 3: excel because you'll be able to isolate him on guys
Speaker 3: that are pouring coverage, slow footed people, and he's gonna
Speaker 3: he's gonna lick him in the NFL right like it's
Speaker 3: it's not a situation where you're gonna be rolling all
Speaker 3: your coverage resources. Two herold fannin and and receiving is
Speaker 3: the thing that he does. And he's really good with
Speaker 3: the ball after the catch as well. So yeah, he
Speaker 3: is a very intriguing fantasy guy. It's not gonna go
Speaker 3: super early. Someone to keep an eye on for people
Speaker 3: later on. All right, love it, great job, thor thank you.
Speaker 1: As the as we get closer to the draft, you
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be talking many times, can't We'll do
Speaker 1: deep dives on each position. The problem, the problem we're
Speaker 1: gonna have there's too many running backs for one show.
Speaker 1: We might have to break we might have to do
Speaker 1: running backs into two different groups.
Speaker 3: There's like literally like forty different guys in this class
Speaker 3: that are like super interesting running back class. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: We've been we've been.
Speaker 1: You know, wide receivers have been great for like three
Speaker 1: straight years. That's correcting this year. Running backs it's been
Speaker 1: thin for a lot of years.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm excited about the year we get
Speaker 3: our market credit. It's like the bonanza in one year.
Speaker 3: And it's funny. Yeah, some of these running back class
Speaker 3: we've had in the last year's running back class was terrible.
Speaker 3: There's so many running backs in this class. If they
Speaker 3: just come out last year, right, would have gone so
Speaker 3: much higher. But yeah, like Donovan Edwards is a great example.
Speaker 3: Donovan Edwards actually from Michigan. He actually could go undrafted
Speaker 3: in this class. He might have been a Day two
Speaker 3: pick last year. Wow. Yeah, So it's it's just kind
Speaker 3: of wild the way that difference is in those two.
Speaker 1: Based today it's combined week so we're way in advance
Speaker 1: of the draft. Still pick your spot for Ashton Gendy.
Speaker 1: Where is he gonna where you think he will go,
Speaker 1: not where he should go. Where you think he's gonna go.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go twelve with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I know. It's like, it can't get past twelve, right,
Speaker 3: it can't get past twelve. No, they'll they'll take him
Speaker 3: if he's there. But and again, you have the threats
Speaker 3: to take him above there. You brought up Raiders. You
Speaker 3: have the Raiders, you have the Bears potentially, I mean
Speaker 3: they have DeAndre Swift under contract. You you have the
Speaker 3: big back and Rochean behind him. But you also have
Speaker 3: a new coach coming in who they shocked the world
Speaker 3: with the Lions taking Jamior Gibbs at twelve. You're sitting
Speaker 3: here in exactly Ashton GenZ is a better prospect than
Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs was, right, one of the best. What's the
Speaker 3: let's go back draft classes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which running back would have been thought of more
Speaker 1: highly at this stage of the process than Genty is
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: Barkley, all right, you gotta go back five. Some people
Speaker 3: put him, you know, him and Bijon. I have Genzy
Speaker 3: a bit above, a little bit above the for me,
Speaker 3: you have to go back to Saquon. Wowe impressive. He's crazy.
Speaker 3: He's great, especially because the kid didn't even discover start
Speaker 3: playing football till seventh grade in Italy. Yeah, in Italy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he he was in Italy up through ninth grade.
Speaker 3: They they won like the European Division two uh some
Speaker 3: some something or other football you know, championship or whatever.
Speaker 3: They had to go on like ten hour bus bus rides.
Speaker 3: Some of their home games were played in the middle
Speaker 3: of a dormant volcano. In this one that doesn't even
Speaker 3: make sense. The football stadium that was on the campus
Speaker 3: of this this air force base. Because Genty's dad was
Speaker 3: a you know, naval officer or whatever, they did not
Speaker 3: have lights, so they had to play at a field
Speaker 3: where they had lights. And there was this park locally
Speaker 3: that's inside of a dormant volcano that had lights. So
Speaker 3: they played a couple of jenz has literally played games
Speaker 3: inside dormant volcanoes in Italy. Well, that's not gonna ever
Speaker 3: happen again. The time we'll ever.
Speaker 1: Talk about a draft process of all a guy playing
Speaker 1: in bo only time. Yeah, that's amazing, that's amazing, great stuff,
Speaker 1: Thor appreciate it. Thank you very much. We'll be back
Speaker 1: next week for more Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 3: Talk to you then, everybody.
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