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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Chargian.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly.

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Speaker 1: It's a combine edition with Thor Nystrom.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, my man. Hey, thanks so much. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 3: reached Combine week. We've reached Combine week.

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Speaker 1: You're leaving in a matter of hours as we're taping

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Speaker 1: this now.

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Speaker 3: For some people that hear this a little later, they'll

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Speaker 3: you'll already be there, that's right. Yeah. So you just

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Speaker 3: think of me as in Indianapolis right now as people

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Speaker 3: are listening to this, what are the odds that you

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Speaker 3: are at, Oh, what's the big steakhouse in India Say almost,

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Speaker 3: say almost, yes, almost, pretty good. I will be there

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Speaker 3: at least one time for sure. You can come on that.

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Speaker 3: You have to have the shrimp cocktail at the cocktail sauce.

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Speaker 1: Not even the shrimp. I mean it's good, there's big shrimp.

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Speaker 1: It's the cocktail sauce.

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Speaker 3: It's the cocktail sauce. Yeah, which is more like a

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Speaker 3: fear factor type challenge. It really gets through that they

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Speaker 3: have the horse Radish apparently, the grind it fresh every day.

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Speaker 3: It is so hot, especially for someone who's taste buds

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Speaker 3: were born and bread in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: So right, this is it's out of our normal comfort

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Speaker 1: zone for sure. The Saint Elmos, I think you can

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Speaker 1: buy it. I think they have it. You can't at retail.

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Speaker 1: You can buy it in retail. Yeah, Cocktail sauce yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: And they say if if.

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Speaker 1: It's too spicy for you at Ketchup, which is like

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Speaker 1: everything in Minnesota, right, ketchup is spicy in Minnesota. You

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Speaker 1: because you can dial it down if you need to.

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Speaker 1: There's the Sane Almos at the airport. That's usually we

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Speaker 1: just yeah, yep. So a lot of times we'll just well,

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Speaker 1: you're waiting for our planes, we'll hit that. Hit it there, Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: you can do that too. It's a I think Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: is a pretty fun town. They've got. This is the

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Speaker 1: combine is big. It's not even close to gen Con.

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Speaker 1: Gen Con is in the same place. It's in that

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Speaker 1: convention center. If you can imagine that convention center elbow

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Speaker 3: It's nuts. Can I ask what gen Con is?

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Speaker 1: It's a board gaming convention. It's the Comic Con of

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Speaker 1: board games. Ok, yes, that is gen Con, which is

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 3: Oh, have to check that out some all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've got.

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Speaker 1: We've got a I had my whiskey weekend last weekend,

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Speaker 1: and some people have I was talking about it on

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Speaker 1: the last show. Some people may be interested to know

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Speaker 1: what won it was. Blanton's ended up winning. Now we've

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Speaker 1: done this thing like fifteen years and nobody had ever

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Speaker 1: brought it, and so it found its way up this

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Speaker 1: ever bring a bottle whiskey. It's ever been there before.

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Speaker 1: And the Blands is you know, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: it's extremely well regarded. It's hard to find in some states.

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Speaker 1: Other states is easy, very hard in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was that was your unner. Wow, I

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Speaker 3: ever had it. I have not had it. That's because

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Speaker 3: you're in Minnesota. I've watched Joe Blanton pitch for the Ages.

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be happy to be part of that family. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt all right, so let's let's dive into the combine.

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Speaker 1: So here's here's where headed. I. I asked you for

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Speaker 1: some of the key people you're gonna be watching at

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Speaker 1: the Combine, and we'll run through a handful of notable

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Speaker 1: people at this stage of the process. What you hope

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Speaker 1: to see at the combine. For these guys, we'll do quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: Ends, and also some guys that aren't testing.

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Speaker 1: Let's just start there, some of the players who could

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Speaker 1: really only go down by testing and draft stock. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Shadura Sanders. Not a big surprise here, but

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Speaker 1: they'll be in attendance, but they're not gonna they're not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And the consternation over it, I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of rolling my eyes at, Like he'll throw at his

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Speaker 3: it's it's more of a non story. And and to

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Speaker 3: You don't you're not the most aggressive player at the

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Speaker 3: they're they're they're gonna sit it out, and it sounds

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Speaker 3: like both of them will throw at their pro day. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And they by both, you also mean cam Ward, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the consensus top two quarterbacks. Yeah, cam Ward sitting

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Speaker 3: later this process, well we'll see cam mored throw. But

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Speaker 3: again that's a it's a non story. Uh, Ashton.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to make sure I get the names right,

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Speaker 1: and so if I butcher any names, go.

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Speaker 3: Ahead, and just interrupting, I'm an all time name butcher.

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Speaker 1: So this is remember you and I Alive on air

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Speaker 1: last summer figured out that it was Kamani v Dell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've been saying it wrong like all spring into summer.

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Speaker 3: We're finally getting into like training camp. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ashton Genty, Genty, Yeah, Ashton Genty. It will not

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, he absolutely has a shot at

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Speaker 3: now there is distance between him and RB two. I

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Speaker 3: think the interesting thing will be Ken o'mari and Hampton,

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Speaker 3: Genty to do the athletic testing at Boise States Pro

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Speaker 3: Youwers has to viewers needs to get involved with any

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Speaker 3: off a step back of a of a last season

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Speaker 3: So that that's why he isn't. Why yours in the

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Speaker 3: be interesting to see his throwing session.

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Speaker 1: All right, look, well, let's transition to some other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Jackson Dart from Ole, Miss See. I saw

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Speaker 1: this is somewhere in his senior year of high school,

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart had very little high school recruiting interest up

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Speaker 3: high school football. There was a lot of states that

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Speaker 3: cancel that, and Jackson Dart transferred to one of the bigger,

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Speaker 3: got involved with Jackson Dart. That's where he started. Transferred

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Speaker 1: Because there's no way Caleb Williams wasn't going to start,

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Speaker 3: of seven the checklists that Bill Parcells has, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 3: hits every single one of them. And he has the talent,

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Speaker 3: he has the pedigree. He was the five star recruit.

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Speaker 3: He started three years at Ole Mess and he put

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Speaker 3: up he put up those ridiculous stats. He's athletic, he's

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Speaker 3: But my concern with him is you ran the Mickey

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the question with his evaluation, it's about going

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Speaker 1: Do you worry how much do you worry about players

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Speaker 3: Caleb sees such a good zone back, you know, going

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Speaker 1: Iowa's GPS system had Caleb Johnson pegged at twenty two

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Speaker 3: So he just has all the muscle and the bulk

430
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 3: right there, just packed in.

431
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Damian Martinez next from Miami. Had a

432
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 1: higher EPA than Nashon genty, higher success rate than Nation

433
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: genty three straight years of six yards per attempt or more.

434
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: But Miami if rarely gave him the ball. It was.

435
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: It reminds me of Damian Pierce at Florida.

436
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, where you know, like every time, every time you're

437
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: looking at him, You're like, what he got the He

438
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 1: looks great?

439
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: Why didn't they give him the ball? What do they

440
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: know that we don't know for sure. Yeah, I love

441
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: that you evoked that because it is similar where peer

442
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: Scott slept On and Martinez is absolutely getting slept on

443
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: and you know the last So the first couple of

444
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: years he was at Oregon State and it was more

445
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 3: the physical downhill uh type, you know, running scheme there,

446
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: and he was great at that. And then he transferred

447
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 3: to Miami. He goes into Shannon Dawson air raid, so

448
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 3: you have the thinner boxes, but you know, it was

449
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: a different sort of a scheme there. You have less

450
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: people blocking as well. But he acquitted himself tremendously well

451
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 3: despite the fact that this team is throwing, throwing, throwing, right,

452
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: you have Cam Whady, have Restrepoh, you have Royo, I

453
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 3: mean George, you get going on and on and on.

454
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: And then they had a backfield committee. I think that

455
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: was a what that coaching staff prefers is to have

456
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: the two different guys. But between those two things, the

457
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 3: carries go down. But if you just look at the

458
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: perk carry, they match up really well with the awesome

459
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 3: numbers he was putting up before that. PFF rushing grade

460
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: last year ninety one point one. Dang, PFF running grade

461
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: ninety four point three. It's one of the high, the

462
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 3: highest in the class. He can he can catch a

463
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: little bit. He can certainly pass a block. So it's

464
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: a guy that you know was underutilized. It I think

465
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: is being slept on right now. I love his feet

466
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: and I love his aggression. Right you have the power

467
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 3: thing with the feet. Yeah, that sort of a dichotomy.

468
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 3: You get the broken tackles from that. He has very

469
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: good vision as well. A big fan of Damien Martinez.

470
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So at the combine is here's weight going to

471
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: be something people are to be watching to see.

472
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 3: You know, he runs like a power back up. But

473
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 3: I think people.

474
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: Think he's heavier than he may actually turn out to be. Yeah,

475
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: are people going to be looking to watching the scale

476
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: for Damien Martinez when he when he weighs in, they.

477
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: Might be surprised if they weren't paying attention, Like at

478
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, because Martinez at Oregon State they listened

479
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 3: him at two forty one. At Miami, I believe it

480
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: was two thirty six. And so it's not that big.

481
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: I don't think. No, he's not. He weighed into the

482
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl at two twenty six and when oh, okay,

483
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: I when realize they weighed in there. Yeah, And when

484
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 3: I was talking to Martinez down there, I was setting

485
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: up this question for him basically of like, did you

486
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: lose weight so that you could go into the air raid?

487
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: Was that a part of it? And then you know,

488
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: you know, sort of talk through the progression of being

489
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: the bigger back at Oregon State and you know at

490
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: Miami you lose six pounds or whatever. So I was

491
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: setting that up. I was like, you know, you're two

492
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: forty one at Oregon State and to thirty six. And

493
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: he stops me and he goes, dude, I've never played

494
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: a game over two hundred and thirty pounds. And I

495
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: was like, what, that's crazy. And they were by like

496
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: sixteen pounds or something, so they would never you know, scandalous.

497
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, he's he is more like your high

498
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: to two twenties. You know, he's gonna be two twenty

499
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: six to twenty eight, so somewhere in there. But yeah,

500
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: the game fits really really well. And the footwork again

501
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: in conjunction with with that power. Uh, Damian Martinez being

502
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: slept on right now?

503
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our final running back Ali

504
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: Gordon from Oklahoma State.

505
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know a lot about this kid. What

506
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: do I need to know? Yeah? So what are you

507
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 3: looking for at the combine? Well, with him, it's the

508
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: testing because we're we are we are interested to see

509
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: where does Allie Gordon test? The athleticism is is the

510
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: thing with him. He's a big back and he is

511
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: multi skilled too. He caught a whole bunch of balls

512
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: in college. He can pass block a little bit, but

513
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: where where is that athletic profile? In twenty twenty three,

514
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 3: he put up an enormous season Ollie Gordon twenty twenty four,

515
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 3: his stats were basically Cleveland half despite the fact he was,

516
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: you know, getting almost as much usage. Show was like,

517
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 3: why was that? I think it was because of the

518
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: supporting cast that his quarterback play was not very good.

519
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: The offensive line wasn't good. Oklahoma State likes to spread

520
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: the field. Quarterback couldn't throw down the field, So all

521
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: of a sudden you had stack box's against you know,

522
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 3: your minimal protection five to five offensive lineman. Maybe they

523
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: would have one other guy back there to block. Alli

524
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: Gordon got ganged up on last year. Was the whole

525
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: sum and substance of it. I think this guy is

526
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: a context dependent type back and a usage usage specific

527
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: type back. When you look at him towards the NFL, basically,

528
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: I think you're looking at a poor man's Andre Harris.

529
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: It's a very similar type physical package. I think you're

530
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: gonna get similar testing there and in the same way

531
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: Ali Gordon. He's gonna catch the ball for you, be reliable,

532
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: not going to give you the explosive plays he is

533
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: lacking in the long speed. He has build up speed

534
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: that he was able to access in twenty twenty three

535
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: more with the better blocking last year, you didn't see that.

536
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: That's why the stats ended up getting cleve. But just

537
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: curious to see how he ends up testing. All right,

538
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: Le's take a break. When we come back, let's go

539
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: to the wide receivers. Who are the people that you

540
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: are most looking forward to seeing at the combine? What

541
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: do you want to see from them at the combine?

542
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: Paul Charchi and Thorneistrom with you. Fantasy Football Weekly continues

543
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Speaker 3: in a moment Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. All right,

544
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: so here's here's the first big challenge. Everybody calls him

545
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: Teed McMillan, but I feel.

546
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: Like I at least got to give it a go.

547
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: TETAROA McMillan. That's pretty good? Pretty is that pretty good?

548
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: Okay? Good? Arizona.

549
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: He's I think he entered the season as the probable

550
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: first overall receiver, and they start hearing his name at

551
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: the very beginning of the college season as an elite prospect,

552
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: and then he went on to have a fantastic season,

553
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: and I think it feels like he's going to be

554
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: the first wide receiver taken in the draft, not counting

555
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter if you count him as a wide receiver.

556
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: For sure, and his McMillan's game has been nippicked a

557
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: little bit, but he is wide receiver one if you

558
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: don't count Hunters as a wide receiver. McMillan six foot five,

559
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: he's just south at two hundred and fifteen pounds. He

560
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: reminds me a lot of a taller Drake London. It's

561
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: the same kind of a thing that the ball skills,

562
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: the use of the body, the body control. McMillan I

563
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: think is a bit better of a route runner than

564
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: he has given credit for. You know, people get skittish

565
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: with the guy where it's like, oh, he's led by

566
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: his ball skills, and McMillan's ball skills aren't saying he

567
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: has this crazy catch radius so like, but like he

568
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: also is a decent route runner, like I said, Like,

569
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: there's smoothness and fluidity to the way that he runs

570
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: his route, so he is able to create a little

571
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 3: bit of separation the intermediate range and you put anything

572
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 3: around him, it's like a fisherman's net. With his catch radius.

573
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: He is coming down with that ball and he can

574
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: go low for it to catch it outside of his frame.

575
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: Like I said, very very smooth. Tom McMillan's going to

576
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: be the top wide receiver. Curious as far as that goes.

577
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: Will he do the agility stuff? I think for sure

578
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: you're going to see him run the forty Some of

579
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: these taller, bigger receivers we've seen come out last five

580
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: I have six seven years. They have ducked the agility drills.

581
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: So and some of them who haven't, they wish they did.

582
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 3: DK metcalf, I'm looking at you so well, will McMillan

583
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: do the agilities. Curious on that, but yeah.

584
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: What do you think you know, he's not a burner

585
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: ted being built. This is you know, what do you

586
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: think he comes in at the forty What are you

587
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: expecting four?

588
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: Five or five? Yeah, something like that. And you know what,

589
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: that's fine for his first style of play. That is

590
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: absolutely gonna wine down field. Ye, you can get off

591
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: the line just fine, and you're gonna need a couple

592
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: guys downfield with him to box him out, yeah, to

593
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: try to knock that ball down.

594
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: That's right, All right, let's transition to Luther Burton from

595
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: Miszoo pretty much. It seems to me if I think

596
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm seeing pretty universally the wide receiver two in this

597
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: draft class.

598
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, although heading into the combine now we're we're starting

599
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: to it's starting like some negative pub for him. I

600
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: saw like Kuiper's recent mock draft. I don't believe he

601
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: was in round one or Jeremiah's I'm pretty sure. Okay, So, yeah,

602
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Burden coming off a poor season. We were gonna give

603
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: him the contextual benefit of the debt for that, but

604
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: they did not have good quarterback play. He is going

605
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: to test really well. My sheets from I have the

606
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: NFL's at least their numbers on him from over the

607
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: over the off season, they had them between four to

608
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: three eight I think was the estimated on him, and

609
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: potential low four threes as well. So you have a

610
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: very explosive player issue with Burden, and I think this

611
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: is why he is getting nit picked. Unless there is

612
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: a character thing that that I don't know about, will

613
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: find out and doing on that. But he is he

614
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: certainly is a slot. Uh, he is a slot only

615
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: is a smaller receiver. But you also have to manufacture

616
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: that touches for him a little bit. It's it's within

617
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: ten yards of the line of scrimmage. He's magic with

618
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. You just have to get

619
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. I think that there's a

620
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: lot of Deebo Samuel and Luther Burton. The way that

621
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: he plays the game.

622
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: That's a pretty pretty special cop. Yeah, there are many

623
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: guys like Deebo Samuel.

624
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and maybe you know what we'll say, Disco

625
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: on Debo, we'll do that thinglo Reid well believe it

626
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: for too is base that. Yeah, it's it's not Malachi Corley.

627
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: We're not gonna go that far. But uh, Yeah, that's

628
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: the thing with him. So if your offense is in

629
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: need of something like that, that you're gonna be attracting him.

630
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: If not, you're not. But like, for instance, the Arizona Cardinals,

631
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: I think are would be a tremendous fit for burn

632
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: team that needs a slot receiver where you have the

633
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: boundary and the tight end already taken care of. And

634
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: is he is Luther Burton specifically a slot receiver. He

635
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: has like a slot Okay, all right, yeah in college

636
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: as well, very very little on the boundary. Jalen Royals

637
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: from Utah State.

638
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: We don't get it, you know, Utah and Utah State

639
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: popping up, you know in ways that they never used to.

640
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Royals.

641
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Now it was Mountain West competition, but caught a lot

642
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: of things.

643
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: I believe.

644
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: He is thought to be not particularly fast, but very productive.

645
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: So what are you looking for at the combine from

646
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Royals.

647
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Utah, Utah, Los Jackson, dart to Los Angeles and

648
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: then to Mississippi. But they got back Jalen Royals from Georgia. Okay,

649
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: Jalen Royals was totally he went from Georgia. He was

650
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: totally overlooked in the recruiting process. He actually went to

651
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Georgia at Military Institute coming out of high school, Okay,

652
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: and that's when he ended up transferring to Utah State

653
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: after that. He obviously was a good athlete. He played

654
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: basketball as well. The thing he's going to do really

655
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: good at is the jumps. You're gonna see some explosive

656
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: jumps for Jalen Royals, assuming that his foot is good

657
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: to go now. I think it will be because a

658
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: month ago at the Senior but he was out there,

659
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: he was competing, He wanted to be out there, but

660
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: he had the season ending injury at the end of

661
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: October in college football that knocked him out for the season.

662
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 3: We weren't sure if we were going to see him

663
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: at the Senior, but we did. He did confirm to

664
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: us that he was not one hundred percent there. Like

665
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: I said, hope that he has been one hundred percent

666
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: long enough to have trained for these things where he'll

667
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: be comfortable going out and doing the full game at

668
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: a test thing. But he's a really interesting receiver five

669
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: foot eleven, two hundred and ten pounds, so he's like

670
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: your bowling ball build for a wide receiver. I talked

671
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: to him doubt when I asked him about what the

672
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: NFL was talking to him about as far as usage

673
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: for the next level. He played the boundary, he has

674
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: played the slot. He said early on last year was

675
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: seventy eight percent was on the outside. He said early on,

676
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: teams were talking to him about being a big, bigger slot,

677
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: like the bigger forty five coup a slot, and being

678
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: more the efficiency guy. You get off the line really

679
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: quick with Royals. He is a good route runner. He

680
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: is very precise that deep speed. I hope he runs

681
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: because I would be curious to see where he ends

682
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: up running. But yeah, I think that's what you're looking

683
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: at at the next level.

684
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: As a quick aside, look at how much, especially Cooper

685
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Cup has changed for slot receivers. Yep, you know, Khalil

686
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir just signed a sixty million dollar extension. As

687
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: the teams go to receiver running from the slot. And

688
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I think teams are now, you know, third receivers are

689
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: on the field like eighty percent of the plays. They're

690
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: now you know, they are now really ready to build

691
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: passing offenses around great slot receivers.

692
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah they're Yeah, they're there. Are starters, and they're valued starters. Yeah.

693
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: Back in the day, if you were a slot only,

694
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: oh you're you know right, Yeah, you'd start to get

695
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: pushed on draft boards. But yeah, it's a valuable part

696
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: of offense. And now for sure, all right, saveon Williams

697
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: and DC guy is fascinating.

698
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I know you've got some skepticism here, but

699
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: he is. He's crazy fast, you know, but cheap speed

700
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: has never been one of has always been a red

701
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: flag trade for you. So talk to me about Savion

702
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Williams and especially what could he do to change your

703
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: mind at the combine.

704
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for him because the couple things

705
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: that I have the concerns about you aren't able to

706
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: test for there occasionally for him, and that is we're

707
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: out running in ball skills. But what you have here

708
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: is an incredible physical package and people are going to

709
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: be drooling over him. In Indianapolis, he was listed by

710
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: TCU six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds.

711
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: They clocked him on five twenty five. They clocked him

712
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: on their GPS twenty two point five miles per hour,

713
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: which is utterly ridiculous. Bruce Feldman reported last offseason, Williams

714
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: had a ten to six broad jump and a forty

715
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: inch vertical in addition to all that. And then you

716
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: look at like last year, sixty catches, six hundred eleven yeards,

717
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: six touchdowns, three one hundred and thirty two rushing yards

718
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: in addition to that six more touchdowns, and he was

719
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: a former high school quarterback who also completed all three

720
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: trick pass plays that he did. Okay, so it's like

721
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: you look at it from it's like, oh, he's got

722
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: the versatility the NFL likes. He's in this perfect physical package.

723
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: He's an athletic freak. You can do all these different

724
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: things with them. But the inability to run the routes

725
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: and just some metrics for you on this charge. Twenty

726
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: twenty two and twenty twenty three, those were the first

727
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: two years that he was the starter of. TCU tried

728
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: to use Williams as a traditional boundary receiver. He had

729
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: a dots over eleven and a half yards both those seasons.

730
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: But in those two seasons, according to PFF, Williams was

731
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: fifty first and thirty fifth percentile in separation percentage against

732
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: single coverage. He wasn't gaining separation on the boundary and

733
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: then he the drop seas. The ball skills are wildly

734
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: inconsistent with Williams, so this year they radically change his usage,

735
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: which leads to the big break Aull year, and he

736
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: basically became your cord Aero Patterson, your laviska chanall your

737
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore manufactured touchdow Dude. You got the carries out

738
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: of him, you got the short passes. I've seen people

739
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: be like, oh, but he went eight for nine last

740
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: season and contested catch situation. Sure, five of those came

741
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: within nine yards of the line of the line of scrimmage.

742
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: Five of his drops I think he had eight drops, Yeah,

743
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: five of them were within nine yards of the line

744
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, so almost all of his work was coming there.

745
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: He had very few catches. I think it was nine

746
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: catches he had that it was more than nine yards downfield,

747
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 3: So almost all the production coming in close. I think

748
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: that's what he is at the end of the bad sign.

749
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: It's a bad sign, but you know the NFL will

750
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: start dreaming on him when he goes there. He's gonna

751
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: be you know, six four two twenty five, and he's

752
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: gonna run like a deer and everyone's gonna be like,

753
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: oh gosh, look at this kid. He's gonna be a star.

754
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't think he's gonna be a star.

755
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a utility, manufactured touch guy

756
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: at the next level, no matter how well he tests.

757
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 3: So if you hear this after he tests and oh guy,

758
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 3: that guy ten rounds, yeah, exactly, just keep in mind

759
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: what he is.

760
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the tight end position. Tyler

761
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Warren Penn State. Let's I know he's one of the

762
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: that you want to you want to follow. Tell me

763
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: more about Tyler Warren. Honestly, I don't have anything on him.

764
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if Tyler Warren ends up testing

765
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: because he is tight end one right now. And it's

766
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: not Harold Fannin. No, no, fann In probably three I would, yeah,

767
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: but Warren in this enormous physical package. He is six

768
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: sixty five six two hundred and sixty pounds, and man,

769
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: can that guy move. This past season he broke out,

770
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: they got a new offensive coordinator there, and then THEO

771
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: Johnson was was, you know, off to the NFL and

772
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: they started manufacturing all he's touching for Tyler Warren, he

773
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: had a bunch of runs. It was like brock Bowers

774
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: type usage. Even scored a touchdown a trick play where

775
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: he started out as the center, everybody lined up to

776
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: his right and he was an eligible receiver. He snapped

777
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: the shotgun snap, then ran a fly route, and then

778
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: the quarterback just chucked it up to him and he

779
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: went and mossed some poor safety in the back of

780
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 3: the end zone. So Tyler Warren, he can do all

781
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: these these different kinds of things in terms of the

782
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: physical package with the athleticism. That's where he gets a

783
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: vote to Gronk. The difference I would tell people is

784
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: Gronk was one of the great tight end blockers that

785
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: we've ever seen in line. Warren is just to get

786
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: you by kind of a blocker. But that doesn't people

787
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: don't care anymore. In fantasy. This guy's gonna get you

788
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: what you want, Okay, Tyler Warren will watch you. What

789
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: do you want to see at the combine from him?

790
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: I want to see him test period because since he

791
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: is the tight end one, I'm expecting sort of a

792
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: late pullout of that. But I would love it if

793
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: he went out because he's an athletic free So I

794
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: would love it if you went out there and just

795
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: put on a show. Colston Loveland from Michigan, this guy

796
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: is the most skilled receiver of the tight ends like that.

797
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: You know, Warren is the bigger package. He is a

798
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: better athlete and you can do some more stuff with him,

799
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: But just in terms of the pure mechanics of receiving,

800
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: Loveland is the most skilled, tremendous route runner, tremendous ball skills.

801
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: We saw that in twenty twenty three for the national

802
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: champion Michigan Wolverines when he was working with JJ McCarthy.

803
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: This past season, Michigan's quarterback play was horrible, so you

804
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: didn't get to see it quite as much. But yeah,

805
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: he is a very very skilled receiver and the NFL

806
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: is very very high on him. They're watching the tape

807
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: from previous to this past season. And of course Colson

808
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: Loveland's college coach is coaching in the NFL right now,

809
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: and you're a team that could use that tight end

810
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: a guy just like him. So keep an eye on

811
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: the Chargers. Okay, we'll watch it. What round is Colson Loveland?

812
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: You going to go in the first? Both? Okay, so

813
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: all charmers will be picking. What do they pick like

814
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: the twenty second? I believe second. Yeah, something to keep

815
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: an eye on. I think I think he Loveland could

816
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: get stolen from Harbaugh two picks ahead of them by

817
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: mister Sean Payton. That yeah, and they want the joker guy.

818
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: That is what Colson Loveland is. Well, unless you believe

819
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: this Gronk report. Oh, Grenk's gonna come out and flavor

820
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: yeah for the Broncos. Yeah. Yeah.

821
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: There's an acquaintance and a name that many are familiar

822
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: with in the fantasy community. Ce Salami, who's been working

823
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: with football guys, but his primary job is Denver Sports Radio,

824
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: and he reported that Gronk wants to come play for

825
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, was considering playing for Sean Payton.

826
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: That's wow, that's yeah, that would be a while, That

827
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: would be would be incredible kidding.

828
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Harold fannin Bowling Green set

829
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: the single season FBS record for tight ends and receptions

830
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: and receiving yards and set three different pff ERA records

831
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: yards have to catch, forced miss tackles, and receiving grade.

832
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Harold Fannon.

833
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he be going First, is it just because

834
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: he played at Bowling Green, well, because he's he's six

835
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: foot three, two thirty.

836
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: Eight, and then yes, and then problem well, internal short,

837
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 3: you're not going to have him in line, so he's

838
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: gonna be the slot and he's going to be the

839
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: the move around type type guy as well. So is

840
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: he and Isaiah Likely? I asked him, You're gonna love this,

841
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: I asked. I ask all the players Senior Bowl combine,

842
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: I asked them for their own color. And usually they're

843
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 3: absolutely ludicrous, you know Kronk, Yeah, like a small small

844
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: airback saying Le'Veon bell. You know, they always go to

845
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: the very top. Harold Fannon had the most realistic self

846
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 3: comp I've ever heard. He said, Ija Likely all right.

847
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, you have self awareness.

848
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: It was like, that is exactly what you are and

849
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: that and then yeah, I think you know, you could

850
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: get the utility out of him in the backfield doing

851
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 3: ender rounds with him. He's actually a decent lead blocker.

852
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: He just you can't put him against the ward Daddy

853
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: edge rushers in the NFL in line, but he does

854
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: give effort as a blocker, but the receiving utility is

855
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: what you're you're going for there, over heavy, heavy targets

856
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 3: in college two point two percent drop rate career. That's incredible.

857
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 3: Over over the volume that that he had. This kid

858
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: can do a whole lot of stuff, and I think

859
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: he is going to wow with his testing and impress

860
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: and surprise. People down in Mobile were kind of grumbling like, oh,

861
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: that's Harold Fannom, Like he's not moving, you know, around

862
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: as well as I as I thought he would. But

863
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: then we got the metrics back from the GPS system,

864
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: the Zebra system that they have down there in Mobile.

865
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: Fannin had the fourth highest max feed of any tight

866
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: end going back to win that system. The GPS system

867
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: was introduced in twenty eighteen at the Senior Bowl. So

868
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: of all those tight ends, fourth highest max speed and

869
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: then eighties sports Travis May he had some called on

870
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: field athleticism score where he can bind your max speed

871
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: and then the other athletic metrics that we get from

872
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: the GPS down and mobile max decceleration max acceleration being

873
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: two of them. He sort of puts them all together

874
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: and then has an equation. Fannin tested or was the

875
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: most athletic tight end with the by the GPS data

876
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: that has been at the Senior Bowl since twenty eighteen,

877
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 3: according to Travis Mays Metrics, So he was moving around

878
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: really well. It's like your eyes are lying to you

879
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: a little bit. He's again he's on the smaller side.

880
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: He's a bit of an unorthodox mover, sort of like

881
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson in some ways where people think he's slow

882
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: because Caleb Johnson doesn't really move his arms when he's running.

883
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: You could balance a tea cup on the top of

884
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: his helmet for the last thirty yards of his touchdown runs. Wow,

885
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: Fannin's a bit unorthodox too, and I think that explains

886
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: why he gets separation as well. He moves better. He's

887
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: snappier than you would think, certainly more fluid, and I

888
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: think he has more long speed than people are giving

889
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: him credit for. So I think he's gonna open some

890
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: eyes in Indianapolis. Harold fan into.

891
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: Me feels like just base, I don't he wasn't watching

892
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Bowling Green football.

893
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: You know, I was maction baby Max.

894
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: It yeah, it just if what you're saying is true,

895
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: it just feels like he's gonna be one of these

896
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: guys he just gets dinged for being at Bowling Green,

897
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna if he finds himself in the right offense,

898
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: that will be way more productive than his draft slot's

899
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna end up being.

900
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: For sure in terms of the numbers. For sure. That's

901
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: why a team is drafting him is to advance the

902
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: ball forward right and the shifting stuff you make the

903
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: defense tip off to the zone or the man in advance.

904
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: You get him isolated on some slow footed strong safety

905
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: or middle lineback or whatever that he can rip up

906
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: and coverage. You get him on a team where he

907
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be the top option. Obviously Bowling Green

908
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: was just every single time they were thrown to him.

909
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: I bet where he's more like the third option, whatever

910
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: fourth option. That's that's where he is really going to

911
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: excel because you'll be able to isolate him on guys

912
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: that are pouring coverage, slow footed people, and he's gonna

913
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna lick him in the NFL right like it's

914
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: it's not a situation where you're gonna be rolling all

915
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: your coverage resources. Two herold fannin and and receiving is

916
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: the thing that he does. And he's really good with

917
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: the ball after the catch as well. So yeah, he

918
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: is a very intriguing fantasy guy. It's not gonna go

919
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: super early. Someone to keep an eye on for people

920
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: later on. All right, love it, great job, thor thank you.

921
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: As the as we get closer to the draft, you

922
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be talking many times, can't We'll do

923
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: deep dives on each position. The problem, the problem we're

924
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: gonna have there's too many running backs for one show.

925
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: We might have to break we might have to do

926
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: running backs into two different groups.

927
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: There's like literally like forty different guys in this class

928
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: that are like super interesting running back class. I can't wait.

929
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: We've been we've been.

930
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, wide receivers have been great for like three

931
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: straight years. That's correcting this year. Running backs it's been

932
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: thin for a lot of years.

933
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm excited about the year we get

934
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: our market credit. It's like the bonanza in one year.

935
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 3: And it's funny. Yeah, some of these running back class

936
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: we've had in the last year's running back class was terrible.

937
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: There's so many running backs in this class. If they

938
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: just come out last year, right, would have gone so

939
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: much higher. But yeah, like Donovan Edwards is a great example.

940
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: Donovan Edwards actually from Michigan. He actually could go undrafted

941
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: in this class. He might have been a Day two

942
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: pick last year. Wow. Yeah, So it's it's just kind

943
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: of wild the way that difference is in those two.

944
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: Based today it's combined week so we're way in advance

945
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: of the draft. Still pick your spot for Ashton Gendy.

946
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Where is he gonna where you think he will go,

947
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: not where he should go. Where you think he's gonna go.

948
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go twelve with the Cowboys.

949
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: I know. It's like, it can't get past twelve, right,

950
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: it can't get past twelve. No, they'll they'll take him

951
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: if he's there. But and again, you have the threats

952
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: to take him above there. You brought up Raiders. You

953
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: have the Raiders, you have the Bears potentially, I mean

954
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: they have DeAndre Swift under contract. You you have the

955
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: big back and Rochean behind him. But you also have

956
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: a new coach coming in who they shocked the world

957
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: with the Lions taking Jamior Gibbs at twelve. You're sitting

958
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: here in exactly Ashton GenZ is a better prospect than

959
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs was, right, one of the best. What's the

960
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: let's go back draft classes.

961
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, which running back would have been thought of more

962
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: highly at this stage of the process than Genty is

963
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: this year.

964
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 3: Barkley, all right, you gotta go back five. Some people

965
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: put him, you know, him and Bijon. I have Genzy

966
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: a bit above, a little bit above the for me,

967
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: you have to go back to Saquon. Wowe impressive. He's crazy.

968
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 3: He's great, especially because the kid didn't even discover start

969
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: playing football till seventh grade in Italy. Yeah, in Italy, Yeah,

970
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean he he was in Italy up through ninth grade.

971
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: They they won like the European Division two uh some

972
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: some something or other football you know, championship or whatever.

973
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: They had to go on like ten hour bus bus rides.

974
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: Some of their home games were played in the middle

975
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: of a dormant volcano. In this one that doesn't even

976
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: make sense. The football stadium that was on the campus

977
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: of this this air force base. Because Genty's dad was

978
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: a you know, naval officer or whatever, they did not

979
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: have lights, so they had to play at a field

980
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: where they had lights. And there was this park locally

981
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: that's inside of a dormant volcano that had lights. So

982
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: they played a couple of jenz has literally played games

983
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: inside dormant volcanoes in Italy. Well, that's not gonna ever

984
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: happen again. The time we'll ever.

985
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: Talk about a draft process of all a guy playing

986
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: in bo only time. Yeah, that's amazing, that's amazing, great stuff,

987
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Thor appreciate it. Thank you very much. We'll be back

988
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: next week for more Fantasy Football Weekly.

989
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: Talk to you then, everybody.

990
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,399
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991
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,520
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