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Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in fineal hour of the program for

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Speaker 3: tonight here at Fox Sports Radio. We appreciate you hanging

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Speaker 3: out with us, uh being part of the extended family

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Speaker 3: as we get you through your sporting evening. I'm Mike

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Speaker 3: Harmen alongside me the stick and genius himself a legend.

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Speaker 3: Several people have written me over the course of the night.

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Speaker 3: Just tell me so. It's already span your at sticking genius.

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Speaker 4: What's up with my Dodgers? What's going on here?

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Edwin Diaz comes into much fanfare, munch,

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Speaker 3: pomp and circumstance. It's now four one runners on first

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Speaker 3: and second, one out, the rain falling, and Mary Hart

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Speaker 3: is not in her chair.

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Speaker 4: How many games have been rained out at Todgers stadium

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Speaker 4: over the years.

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Speaker 3: That is a fantastic question. Not many, I bet you

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Speaker 3: under ten, oh way under. Let's see, there have been

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Speaker 3: seventeen in the history of Dodger.

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Speaker 4: Steinle don't believe seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, that's what AI told me. That's going all

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Speaker 3: the way back to nineteen sixty two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was about to say, you're going way way.

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Speaker 5: Back the most recent April seventeenth.

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Speaker 3: Of two thousand. Oh wow, theo how about that nine

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Speaker 3: of them occurred in April. There you go, and that's

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Speaker 3: one to grow on. Four to one, two runners on one.

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Speaker 3: Out Here in the ninth watching a little bit of

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Speaker 3: the qualifiers FS one, coming into the final moments, guys

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Speaker 3: are pulling jerseys over there heads, others laying down and crying.

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Speaker 3: Iraq to one over Bolivia to finish the job. The

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Speaker 3: game winner to Hussein in the fifty third minute, to

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Speaker 3: make that one hold. Earlier, we tried to console John

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Speaker 5: Consists, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: We don't have anything equivalent, you know. I guess doing

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Speaker 4: the equivalent is like when the United States hockey team

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Speaker 4: became so popular. But like even if we lose in

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Speaker 4: the Olympics. We kind of shrug it off after a

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Speaker 4: couple of days, you know what I mean, We're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: so we're not supposed to win it, so we'll just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's the curiosity. I mean,

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Speaker 3: some of it's culture. Some of it is people get

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Speaker 3: it wrapped up into their own teams, their own universities

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Speaker 3: and all of those things. Mine's more while you know,

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Speaker 3: the other kind of wildcat. Really he's a kinder, gentler soul.

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Speaker 3: But all of that to say the it is curious.

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Speaker 3: You know, you want to write a book, there's your.

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Speaker 4: Book, fifty pages a newspaper and half of it is

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Speaker 4: on soccer. That reminded me of what the National is.

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Speaker 4: That what it was called out here with the National.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, buddy of mine worked for them.

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Speaker 3: He still has one of the original newspaper, but with

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Speaker 4: I thought that was great, an all sports newspapers.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 4: We don't have it now. We couldn't, you know, we

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Speaker 4: couldn't support it. But they have a fifty pager out

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They just hired an army of people at the now

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I saw that started up.

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Speaker 3: Now they might actually end up having an anchorman like

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Speaker 3: fight with the guys that are left at the LA Times.

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Speaker 3: I think that could happen before. You got to look

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Speaker 3: out for the guy with the trident, That's all I

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Speaker 3: Finds out the majority of both sports fans seventy two

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Speaker 3: behind streaming paywalls. Only twenty seven percent of fans and

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Speaker 3: they said say they've skipped watching a game at least

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Speaker 3: happened quote unquote many times.

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Speaker 4: Right right. And you for some reason, you're like defending that.

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Speaker 4: You say, well, you just keep paying more and more

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Speaker 4: and more. Pay more for the streaming, pay more for

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Speaker 4: the uh you know whats If I want to get

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Speaker 4: the Red Zone channel, just pay more. If I want

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Speaker 4: to watch NBA games, just pay more, more and more,

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Speaker 4: you know, to watch every NFL game, you have to

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Speaker 4: pay like over one thousand dollars I believe to get

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Speaker 3: Is it worth it to you or not? That's the

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Speaker 3: question I ask you, and I ask American the globe.

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Speaker 3: If it is, then you'll figure out a way to

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Speaker 3: pay it. If it's not, then you'll pick and choose

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Speaker 3: which to me?

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Speaker 4: Is you like, if I didn't work in the industry,

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure I would have all those channels, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Line, I guarantee in ninety eight percent of the people

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Speaker 5: And that's fine.

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Speaker 4: Too, okay, I mean right, I mean if they don't

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Speaker 3: Know what, you make a choice of what you're doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then whre's the money to actually go to

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Speaker 5: It is a lot of life.

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Speaker 3: You're not supposed to be able to do all that

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Speaker 4: But Mike, when six out of ten people are telling

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Speaker 4: it's become too expensive, that's a problem. Okay. We're not

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Speaker 4: talking about going to games or going on vacation or

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Speaker 4: just watching it on TV. Or ready you're paying for

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Speaker 3: Know, right, but you've decided that it's the value proposition.

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Speaker 5: Right. I don't have right now traditional cable. Right.

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Speaker 3: I had, and this this is my personal consumption. I

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Speaker 3: had YouTube TV. Guess what what? That ended up becoming

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Speaker 5: And that's choice, right.

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Speaker 3: My choice as a person that works in this industry

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Speaker 4: But what about all the extras? Like I said the

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Speaker 4: can't even pick to watch my Arizona Wildcats every game?

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Speaker 4: I have to make sure I have all the you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying they do.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying it's the unfortunate thing in life is that

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess they're telling you know it isn't because

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Speaker 4: sixty percent of them skip games. Because they don't have

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Speaker 4: those times they.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't say, well, of course they're watching football.

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Speaker 3: But if that's not on the you know, once upon

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you got four two in the tune the episode.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you did. And then in nineteen eighty seven we

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you got static graphics on your monitor of someone

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Speaker 4: I had this conversation with George Michaels George Michael sports machine. Y,

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Speaker 3: It was nineteen years ago that he signed off for

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Speaker 4: No, nless you wait for that. There was the inside

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Speaker 4: that was the two high with Pat Summer and Tom Brookshire.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but where was that on?

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Speaker 4: I don't regular TV, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but you still had to seek it out like

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Speaker 3: this week in Baseball whatever on a saturd Yes. But

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Speaker 3: the point was you didn't have access to all two

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Speaker 4: Now no any access back.

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Speaker 3: No, no, But that's my point is that everybody got

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Speaker 3: spoiled in that all of a sudden, everything was free.

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Speaker 4: I think we got you know, we got spoiled with.

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Speaker 4: I think it's WGN, and that's still part of a

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't I would I would throw a fit.

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Speaker 3: You said cable. I didn't have cable growing up. At

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen to that guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his Arizona Wildcats will play on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: So you've got the fighting alone, which is a deeper

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Speaker 3: he was getting a.

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Speaker 4: Haircut at haircut.

441
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, shades of Geno Smith not knowing time zones and

442
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: stuff years ago. But Todd Mogan's guy taking over the

443
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns may or may not have to deal with

444
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: Shaun Watson.

445
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 4: Help you with them. He's gonna he's gonna get the

446
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: chance that John Watson is gonna be giving the chance.

447
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: He's making too much money and.

448
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Speaker 5: For forty five million dollars.

449
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and nobody else has really emerged as much you

450
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 4: want to say Sanders has or Dylan Gabriel, that's not true.

451
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 4: So he's going to be giving his job back. Well,

452
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: well see what you can do. Well, see if he's

453
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Speaker 4: healthy enough.

454
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Speaker 3: Sanders may put a couple lasses in seats, sell a

455
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: couple of tickets and jersy. Hey, look, Cleveland fans are

456
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: a desperate bunch, just like you know in Miami, trying

457
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: to find shades of those seventy two dolphins. Yes, still wishing, wanting,

458
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: hoping all these years after Finkle design Horn right, Champagne,

459
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 3: right exactly. I mean it's still popping. Champagne's the only

460
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Speaker 3: thing that they have to look forward to on a

461
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: year at their basis. Hey, you always have that, There's

462
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Speaker 3: no question about it. But we talk about the owners

463
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Speaker 3: meetings and you've got a couple of rule changes that

464
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Speaker 3: got approved.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about replacement referees.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just a lot of little pieces around

467
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Speaker 3: here that are curious.

468
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Speaker 4: You know, we are they going to get the replacement freeze?

469
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Speaker 4: They said they were gonna get it from college. But

470
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Speaker 4: if you're a college referee in a Power five conference,

471
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Speaker 4: do you want to cross the line? Do you want

472
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Speaker 4: to you know, be a scab for your fellow referees

473
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Speaker 4: in the NFL? I don't think you do.

474
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, right, what's the the chain of

475
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: moving up? Uh? And the process and the evaluation where

476
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 3: you get the call up? Right? We were talking about

477
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: Buckner on the baseball side of Tony be relegated? Can

478
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: he be sent to the minors? Uh for reconditioning UH

479
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: and and just re rediscovering your confidence like you would

480
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Speaker 3: a struggling closer.

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Speaker 5: UH.

482
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Speaker 3: But the same thing here in terms of getting that

483
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Speaker 3: that promotion to the NFL.

484
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Speaker 5: It's curious.

485
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Speaker 3: Jay Glazer's always posted this with us. I don't I

486
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: don't know that I approached this with you before. Uh,

487
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: because he's done all the work with merging vets and

488
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Speaker 3: players and former combat vets, and and they're after, you know,

489
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: after enlistment, after they're they're done with the military. What's next.

490
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: The idea of, well, you got folks in shape, You

491
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: have folks that have shown dedication and aptitude in a

492
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Speaker 3: number of fields. They'd be in better shape and more

493
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Speaker 3: equipped to break up fights and adjudicate some of those

494
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Speaker 3: things than some of the referees we have running on

495
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Speaker 3: the field. So maybe that would be a feeder program.

496
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Speaker 3: Start creating a training network there.

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Speaker 4: What you see that? I don't know. Why would you

498
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Speaker 4: not take somebody like in our field, Like we're sports

499
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 4: talk radio people. Obviously we watch a lot of football.

500
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 4: We're supposed to know the rules. I mean, why not?

501
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: I mean, do you have to? Really? They're looking for

502
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Speaker 4: people in their forties. I believe they don't want people

503
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Speaker 4: in their twenties or even in their thirties. I think

504
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Speaker 4: they want people that are older. Why wouldn't you look

505
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Speaker 4: at somebody in our field.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's that's a fine question, and that I look

507
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: amongst the people in our field that I just start chuckling.

508
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Speaker 4: Someone like me, someone like you.

509
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, how would you sell them if I said,

510
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: give me my give me your thirty second elevator pitch

511
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Speaker 3: as to why they should hire you?

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Speaker 5: Arenie?

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Speaker 4: Well, I know all the rules you do pretty much

514
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: pretty much enough.

515
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Speaker 3: I couple that I don't, right.

516
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a few I might not know. But if

517
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Speaker 4: I don't know him, you'll just buzz down for New

518
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: York like you do.

519
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 5: Go to the ABS challenge system.

520
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Speaker 3: Like every as long as you make everything reviewable, anything

521
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: you potentially screw up, as long as they're willing to

522
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: use the challenge, they can.

523
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 4: Get right exactly. I can scoop all I want.

524
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: But legitimately it's the It's not the worst idea in

525
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: the world, right, because you're trying to figure out you know,

526
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: who's invested in the game. You got your super fans,

527
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: You've got folks that work at the high school level.

528
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Speaker 4: And what's holding this up? Mostly is it the money?

529
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Speaker 3: Is it? Sure? You know you're trying to extract more money,

530
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 3: You're trying to you don't want to be full time, right,

531
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Speaker 3: because that's one of the other sticking points to a lot.

532
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Speaker 4: You do want to be full time in the NFL

533
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Speaker 4: doesn't want you to be full time.

534
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Speaker 3: Well, but you do, but you don't because you don't

535
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Speaker 3: want to give up your other job, right, right, Like

536
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Speaker 3: if you're working towards a pension or or you've got

537
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 3: a nice plumb job and whatever, you're a lawyer, you're

538
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: a school administrator or whatever, You're not gonna suddenly after

539
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 3: you know, eighteen years you need twenty two or whatever

540
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Speaker 3: to your age twenty five, like suddenly, you know what,

541
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go pursue the dream. Now the pay might

542
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Speaker 3: be enough to where you say, wow, I can step

543
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Speaker 3: out for a minute, and if I don't like this

544
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: and I'm no good at it, they'll fire me and

545
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: then I can draw two pensions or at least get

546
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Speaker 3: some kind of severance package on the right, right, right,

547
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Speaker 3: But like that's part of it is it's the all right,

548
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Speaker 3: I kind of want the full time job without making

549
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: it a full time job, sticking point to a lot

550
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Speaker 3: of it.

551
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: Because the refs wanted it is a full time job,

552
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: and you know, so you get benefits and all that type.

553
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: Well, sure, you want benefits, you want pensions, you want

554
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, healthcare or whatever else which may or may

555
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: not be greater than whatever your day job is. But

556
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it just comes back to

557
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: the if I have to give up all of this other, well,

558
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: how much more work am I doing for that one

559
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: game a week that I'm refereeing?

560
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Speaker 4: Right?

561
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: If?

562
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Speaker 4: What else would they make you do? I have no idea, but.

563
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Speaker 5: That's just it.

564
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Speaker 3: Are you suddenly gonna have to go do you know,

565
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: be work with a personal trainer eight hours a day

566
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: so you're in the best shape luckily, you know what

567
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: I mean? Though, like like that would be one of

568
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: the bigger chans. Or are you just sitting in more rules?

569
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Speaker 3: Uh administration? Like I rent my daughter when she was

570
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: playing a yso soccer At the beginning, they had a

571
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: thing for, you know, the playoffs where they said, well,

572
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: you know, the teams, the moms, the dad, the grandma's, grandpa's,

573
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: whoever it is as a team. You've got a ref

574
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: so many hours in this scar Yeah, and what was

575
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: laughable and it's amazing. I still give referees. The business

576
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: that I do is that nobody wanted to do it,

577
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: so they finally couldjol me to do it under much duress,

578
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: Like I did not want to do this at all,

579
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: from the fact that like I didn't grow up with soccer,

580
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: like at that point, I was still learned, Like.

581
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Speaker 4: We covered it in the rooms.

582
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Speaker 3: But think about it from a sports talk radio perspective,

583
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: Jason and I probably do more soccer coverage than anybody, right,

584
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Speaker 3: And it's a game that for the last I don't know,

585
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: twenty five years, I've learned a lot about but I

586
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: never was in a referee, so like it's a different

587
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: way of looking at a game, especially if you do

588
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: the training videos. You're like in a luxury suite looking

589
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: down on the field. Well, it's pretty easy to see

590
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: off sides. It's pretty easy to adjudicate it there when

591
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: you're actually running back and forth.

592
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Speaker 5: Not so much. Oh No.

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Speaker 3: I also was better because I got a U twelve

594
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: game as my first assignment because we did it so

595
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Speaker 3: late in the season out of desperation and I had

596
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: no RS, so I had twelve year olds basically punching

597
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: each other in the throat and.

598
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Speaker 5: Coaches like, and I explained it to him, was like

599
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 5: the first game, not my fault.

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Speaker 4: Leave me alone.

601
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now.

602
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Anything and he blows to the neck or head area,

603
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Speaker 3: I'm calling it. You don't like it too bad?

604
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 5: Now?

605
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: I ended up being an eight nothing burial, so nothing else.

606
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: I was gonna do it. But early in the game

607
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: a guy took an elbow to the face, blatant, just

608
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't like you.

609
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 5: Elbow to the face, not.

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Speaker 3: A you know it kind of an inadvertent I'm spinning

611
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: and i'd happened to catch it. No, no, and I

612
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: and I whistled it and they got all mad at me.

613
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, did did do you not see that welt?

614
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: And how his eyes getting really buffy there? Like what

615
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: are we doing? But all that to say, do you

616
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: go down to those levels and just say, hey, let's

617
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: start training folks like you have academies for maybe guys

618
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Speaker 3: for refereeing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the college guys will come on up. Maybe the

620
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: ones that aren't in power for conferences will take advantage

621
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Speaker 4: of it and want to make a little extra money

622
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: on Sundays and and break the break the line. I'm

623
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: not sure. I kind of assume that they wouldn't want to,

624
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: but you know, you never know what guys say hey,

625
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: I'll do it, and I'll never you know, refer the NFL.

626
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Speaker 4: So this is my one chance.

627
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: It's the opportunity for the mid majors to take back over.

628
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Speaker 3: How about that Cinderella lives again.

629
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the mid majors and you can go to

630
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Speaker 4: the NFL and after doing a game on Saturday and

631
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: then do a game on Sunday. You know why not?

632
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Speaker 3: Well, just remember you got to keep those legs in shape,

633
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: so you're gonna have to have a lot of extra

634
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Speaker 3: benefits for this stretching and for the physical therapy.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

636
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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific