WEBVTT - We Have Won A Battle, But We're Still at War with Tezlyn Figaro 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.040 What's up. Family, I'm your girl to make a d 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.520 mallory and it's your boy, and we are your hosts 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:17.799 of street politicians the place. So we're working from home today. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.360 It's been a long, long, long, long weakened some change. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.680 I feel like, first of all, we were on the 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.360 road and then we came back and it's been funerals 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:33.560 and verdicts and a lot of trauma, more black death unfortunately. Um. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.680 And we decided to stay home today and try to 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.239 just um, you know, work for my personal spaces. And 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.440 I'll tell you like I don't you know, I know, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:48.320 I feel heavy, very heavy. But also I love how 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:54.000 Black people lay our people to rest. No one does 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.080 it the way we do it, like it's a family reunion, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:03.920 uh party, a church service. Uh you know. For DMX, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.959 I feel like I went to the mosque, the church 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:11.440 and the club. It just so many things happened, um, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.800 you know, whenever we have services for our own I 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.880 think it was very similar with Dante Rights service. It 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:22.080 was beautiful, um. And I love the fact that they 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.560 used the music, especially when the procession first came in 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.919 to sing freedom songs. You know, before I'll be a slave, 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.840 I'll be buried in my grave and go home to 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.480 my Lord and be free. Like usually, you know, you'll 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.560 hear maybe amazing grace or something else that's a spiritual 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.200 just you know, um sorts like a Christian song or 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.200 a gospel song. But but they chose to use Negro 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:53.000 spirituals to set the tone for how the service started. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.040 And I was just I was, you know, I felt 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.480 good about it. So it's heavy because we know that 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.920 all of these deaths and all the services and even 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.360 the verdict, while positive, yet still in the context of 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:12.200 so much trauma. You know, um, but nobody I believe 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:17.560 steps up to the constant Again. I can't find another 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.120 word to use outside of trauma like we do. Yeah, 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.880 it was, it was. It was a long week, you know. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.120 We we laid to rest one of our icons, which 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.560 was was was one of my mentors, um and it 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.480 was it was hard, you know. And then we went 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.680 to the funeral for Dante, right which which was also 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.480 a beautiful funeral, but it's just hard seeing such a 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.800 young man, you know, twenty years old, that that's just 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.600 not gonna be anymore, you know. It. It was so 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.480 many different things, and then you know, the Derek children verdict, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.200 which you know what, where we believed the correct the 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.240 correct verdict was definitely given in that case. So there 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.560 was not really not really to celebrate because you don't, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.120 you know, you don't you wish that you don't have 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.120 to celebrate that someone's going to jail or that we 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.440 actually received You don't want to celebrate those things. But 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:09.320 unfortunately America has given us so many down parts. We've 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.560 seen you know, justice not be served for us so 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:16.040 many times that we actually have to celebrate situations like this, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.560 you know, so we we It just was like a 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.400 constant roller coaster, man. But you know, I do say 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.240 the d N Mexicans funeral was a beautiful It was long, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.160 both of them was long. But you know, when you 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.280 when you're talking about the icon, you're talking about the 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.920 legend and somebody who touched so many people in so 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.160 many different ways, you know, it definitely it takes time. Yeah. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.800 One of one of the things was that that stood 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.880 out for me was, you know, Swiss said something that 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.080 was really important about how we need to love when 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.200 you know, how X needed that love while he was alive, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.680 you know, and he wished that people had given it 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.560 to him, and he spoke candid about that. You know. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.760 Another one of the highlights was um hearing to share 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.520 him his ex wife, who I know very well, Man, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.640 Just hearing her come from her place of honesty and 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.760 talk about their ups and downs, but just how much 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.680 she loved and they connected, you know. And then having 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.400 a moment just embracing his new fiance and bringing their 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.159 children together. I think there was that was a lesson 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.560 in class. She's always been a class actor. Shere has 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.200 always been such a classy, beautiful woman. Man. Since I've 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.320 known her, She's always been classy. But she just took 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.400 it to the next level, you know, because people want 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.279 to see drama, you know, people wanted to say, oh, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.400 something was wrong, but she she handled that so beautifully. Man. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.280 And to see all of his children, fifteen children in 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.800 one space at one time, you know, it was it 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.000 was just a blessing. You know, x X will not 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.360 be forgotten. He he will live on, not just only 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.520 through his music, but through the seeds that he planted here. Man. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.400 So it was just so many different things that went on, man, 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.800 and I just you're right. We had to stay home 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.159 and is rest as soon as we finished doing this. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.960 I'm gonna only back down because my body is just 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:11.679 dream body weird. My body weird. Yeah, no, I think 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:19.240 that to share us example of womanhood and grace that 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.440 she showed yesterday, I also loved to share us so much. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.320 She's a beautiful sister. From the first time we met, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.880 um at an event that I think Yandy uh did 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:34.320 some years ago, we just connected, you know, and just 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:39.880 became sisters. It didn't take several occurrences. We just connected, 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.960 and you know, she would send She sends me messages 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.800 telling me she's praying for me and I the same. Um. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.640 She's such a woman of God, And I think what 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:55.280 people have to understand is that that doesn't just happen overnight, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.239 like that's not you know, she she's been through a lot. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.320 She's been through a serious journe me and she's in 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.640 the process of writing a book right now where she's 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:09.719 telling her story, which can definitely help somebody else because 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.520 all of us have different situations and things that we've 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.799 been through, and you know, we suffer with those things. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.880 We suffer with um, you know, not so much hiding, 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:25.120 but the veil of the pain and not being able 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.479 to really express it. Just seeing how strong she was 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.400 when she walked up on that stage, um, and even 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.920 had to say a prayer for herself to get through it. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.440 To do what she knows that DMX would want her 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:44.440 to do was so powerful. You know, I appreciate one well. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.320 First of all, I wrote her and said that the 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:52.680 world needed to see what she did at that service, right, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.839 the whole thing, speaking about the truth, you know, the trauma, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.039 what they experienced together as a cup for I think 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.800 she said for thirty nine years or something like that. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:09.240 But then also the embracing of his fiancee. Um, she 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.800 set an example of what womanhood should look like, you know, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.160 and and just humanity should look like. She wasn't with 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.360 X anymore, you know what I'm saying. So to try 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.280 to use her power in the room, because clearly she 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:29.480 had power. She had she she possessed real power and 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.040 presence because everybody knows her, you know, everybody feels like 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.000 they grew up with dm X and two shar her 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.520 and to share he was his wife, she has I 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:44.120 think four of his children. Um, she's she's special, you know, 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.120 and and everybody knows that. And she could have held 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.520 that and used it as a way to snub the 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:54.440 rest of the children's mothers, but she didn't. She made 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.880 sure to use her presence in the room to empower 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.280 another woman that she knows DMX love and had a 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.480 child with it and was planning to marry. So I, 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.400 you know, I thought that that was probably one of 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.720 the most significant moments of the entire weekend. And we 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.120 all waited for her to speak, because the day before 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.400 she didn't speak. She didn't even go on the stage 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.360 at the public service, which, by the way, Kanye West 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:27.000 and his choir. You know, I am often critical of Kanye, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.520 um and and we should be because some of the 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.760 things that Kanye has done and said, I think you're 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.480 very harmful. Um And it's actually been very painful as 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.400 a Kanye fan. But I can tell you that that 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:44.640 choir and the way in which they they present their 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:49.800 gospel tributes, they are truly it's powerful. It's powerful. It 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.960 was like soul reaching, you know. Um. And so that's 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.200 one thing that brother can do well. But to get 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.079 back to to Sharon, you know, UM, you know, I 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.640 just say this really quickly. It takes a lot for 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.400 a woman who has been who has been traumatized by 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:14.120 the public life, you know, and DMX being a ladies man. Absolutely, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.200 you know you can tell that about the fact that 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:23.720 he has thirteen children. Well some people say seventeen, but 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.760 I know it's fifteen. Listen, he knocked, he was knocking 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.600 on twenty about that, right, and you can only imagine 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:37.440 what they went through, you know, over the years. Yeah, right, 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.760 But but he was a prophet. But the way that 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.640 she did what she did yesterday, it just what it 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.160 did for me, mice is it? It made me re 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:54.600 evaluate my own approach to life because I think healing 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:59.120 is probably the first step towards being in the space 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.319 that she's in. That you know that she's been through 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.840 a healing process. So shout out to to Shara Simmons, 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.000 we love you, says. If you see this wherever you are, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.240 just know that you gave us a lot of power yesterday. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.480 So there's a cat. Yes, my cat was just my 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.400 mother's cat. Rather just came from nowhere. I don't know. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.040 Very very interesting, but yeah, shut up to sha a 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.880 man like like I said, she's always been a class 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.840 that It was just so many different moments, man, just 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.280 seeing the rough riders on stage, seeing their children on 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.560 stage talk so well they did they all spoke, well, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:41.680 the minister gave a beautiful so his what he usually does, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.199 um and then then there was just this one point 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.720 though there are some brother you know, decided that he 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.160 wanted to utilize the space for his own and now 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.800 here's always gonna be something like we ain't gonna never 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.240 just have a smooth all the way. It was a 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.320 long time, like I wasn't mad. I was there five 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.160 hours because it was Ex. I was him people, you know, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.560 I was getting this energy. But one brother thought that 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.200 he was not recognized for his contributions to ask, you know, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.720 and that he didn't have the amount of time to 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.320 speak or nobody told him to speak, and he decided 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.400 he was gonna have He said, I'm gonna have me 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.040 a sugar night moment at the at the Grammys or something. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.439 And he went up there and he just started telling 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.000 what he did, you know, throughout Ex's last couple of years, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.520 and how the album that he just released wouldn't be 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.040 done with all and and I get it. You know, 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:32.839 a lot of people think they should have spoke. A 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.520 lot of people say, you know, why you didn't speak. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.840 My people asking that why I didn't, you know, I 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.480 get it you wanted. This was somebody that you loved 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.600 or care for. This probably was one of your close friends, 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.600 and you didn't feel that you had a voice. I 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.000 just thought that was not the time to express that 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.880 and the way that you did. And then he got 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.120 up there. He wasn't talking about X. You know, if 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.880 he would have went up there and say, your exted 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.320 this for me and X was this type of person 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.160 and exited this, people might have been more receptive to it. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.760 When he got up there and started explaining what he did. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.840 You know, I was the one that did this for 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.440 EX and I did this and me and X was 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.000 like this and I was doing this, and I just 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.160 was like, you know it just there's always one moment, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.680 you know that they're gonna be able to see where 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:20.679 when we quote unprogressive niggership going on. You know what 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:28.760 I thought, um, I recognize his frustration based upon the 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.640 fact that even in my own life and in yours 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.520 as well, there are people who feel like they were 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.679 there before the fame right and even though D and 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.760 Y and the whole rough Rider's family they came from 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.439 nothing and made something right to share or all these folks, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.240 a lot of people who spoke were folks who who 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.440 started with damp with with Earl, and he became the 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:57.600 dark man, you know DMX, Right, So this guy seemed 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.559 he kept saying that he was in the group home 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.600 with him. So he's talking about a time that is 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:09.360 before anybody even meeting and recognizing the talent that DMX had, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.760 and I think he felt probably that that needed to 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:17.720 be expressed. Everybody's speech included a lot of their own 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.960 experience or how they felt or what DMX did for them. Um, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.080 but this guy, he was out of line, for sure. Absolutely. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.880 But sometimes we have to find the one person who 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.800 can tell a story that most other people can't tell 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.719 and allow them to say it so that you can 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.199 just you know, make sure you cover all the basis right. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.280 Sometimes you just have to do that. And I guess 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.120 in my it just being a leader and an organizer, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.760 I've learned that when you go into a particular city 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.439 or you know, if you're working in certain spaces, you're 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.640 gonna have the person that's like, now, y'all ain't gonna 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.120 just come here, you know, and the best thing to 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.720 do is to give them a voice so that you 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.079 don't have to deal with them trying to do with 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:09.080 this guy did yesterday, although again what he did wasn't right. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:10.920 I'm not saying that it is, and I'm saying that 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.160 two things can exist at the same time. He could 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.560 be wrong, and there probably should have been a space 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.000 for somebody who could say I grew up with him 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.760 in the group home, because nobody else had that story. 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.720 Everybody else's story begins at the point that he's recognized 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.200 as a great talent but with nothing, and they all 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.640 helped to come together and build what we now know. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.600 But he's telling the story that before there was any 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.600 of this, I was, you know, I was with him, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.880 and then he seems like he was probably somebody that 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.600 was there to you know, he was a part of 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.320 a part of a time in in in DM Mex's 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.520 life that probably wasn't that good, so that he just 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:56.880 wanted to tell his story. Really, I mean, I don't mind, 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.920 because they're friends that I've had before done anything right. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.760 There will probably be able to tell stories of our 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.200 of our relationships and things like that from third and 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.120 fourth grade, and and and and those are relevant things 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.120 that people might want to hear. I just think that 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:18.200 his his whole premise didn't even reflect d m X 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:19.840 to me. You know, he said, I was in there 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:21.840 with d m X and I did this and it 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:23.800 wasn't for me. The last two years of his life, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.520 he wouldn't have made this album. You know. Me we 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.480 I was like, you didn't come there to celebrate him. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.200 You didn't say, yo X did this for me and 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.320 and you know we were together doing this and he 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.280 helped me do this. So he didn't come to share 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:44.360 and reflect on the positive and celebrate that. Yes, it's 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.520 he almost got beat up. Man. I had to stop 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.360 a lot of boys. Boys like what do he said, 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.920 I'm like, chill, relaxed. You know, it wouldn't have been 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.760 a church. I don't know if he had made it 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.960 up out of there, man, but God bless him. The pastor, 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.640 Albern said, set a prayer phone. You know, he understood 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.400 that we all we're all dealing with things. I just 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.720 thought that that, you know, that just wasn't the right 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.280 time for that. But other than that, man, everything was beautiful. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.360 You know, just just seeing people that haven't seen in 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.240 a long time. Unfortunately, you see a bunch of people 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.960 that you haven't seen in years at funerals, you know, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.480 and it just made me reflect, just think, you know, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.760 just be grateful because we're not promised tomorrow. To make 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.760 you realize that, you know, you have to be aware. 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.320 You have to tell people you love them. You know, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.760 you gotta you gotta embrace. Like you said, we gotta 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.840 give flowers while people are living, and we also just 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:40.440 gotta live in fullness, try to live in fullness daily 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.640 and just thinking about all that was said at the services, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.680 one of the things that came to me was this 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.360 whole idea of what you know, what people were saying 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.720 and on social media, like after DMX past, people were like, 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.360 why did anyone help him? Why did anyone help him? 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.159 The same conversation comes up around Black Rob, who I 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.200 don't think enough attention is being given to the fact 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.560 that he also passed away. I mean, obviously DMX is 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.120 larger than life, so you know, he's gonna suck up 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.080 the energy. But I do think that the focus should 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:21.640 shift immediately to Black Raw because I noticed that so 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.639 many of of you, all, you know, young artists and 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.080 just people in general love and appreciate him, and we 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.399 watch the end of his life be really painful. You know, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.960 the funeral is actually on Friday. I just received information 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.640 that his funeral will be on Frinday, yea, so hopefully 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.920 we have a real strong build up to that as well, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.600 and that people show up. I think what Swiss was 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.639 saying was different from the point that I want to 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.320 make Swiss he was. He was basically saying, you know, people, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.359 we talked about vultures, folks showing up when someone dies, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.560 everybody grabbing for what they believe is theirs. And he 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.399 said that, you know, people need to be there to 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:06.760 support when a person is alive. So I get that, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:13.359 but there is this specific narrative around folks asking why 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.280 didn't people help X to deal with his drug addiction, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:21.919 Like why didn't people get more involved? Right? And my 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:28.000 thought of the day is sometimes people are not ready 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.760 for help, right, They're not ready for help. And the 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.520 idea that we think that because we didn't hear it 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.840 out in the world, that folks weren't trying to help 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:43.199 and that they weren't having these conversations with him is 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.399 to me, it's it's kind of disingenuous, or it's it's 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.320 it's it's presumptuous, right, And and I think wrongly so 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.600 because I'm sure that people around him did try to 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.760 help him and to talk to him. But when you've grown, 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.240 if you want to get how I if you want 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:06.040 to lie, cheat, steal, do whatever, you will find a 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.880 way to do that. And I just think about even 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:14.840 in my own life dealing with addiction, people talk to me, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.439 you know, and and it was a small group of 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.399 people who knew about what was going on. But also 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.840 it didn't even meet those people didn't have to beat 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.040 me up. I know from seeing as a child growing 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.639 up what addiction can do to you. So I knew myself, 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.920 but it wasn't until I was ready to deal with 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.960 it right that I actually made a change. So I'm 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.720 just thinking, you know, do we need to what do 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.240 we do? Do we knock somebody over the head and 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.200 tie them down without you know, without their consent, because 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.840 I don't even think that's illegal, or how do you 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.400 help people who are not ready? I think it's a process. 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.240 I think when we look at the situation, and we 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.840 talked about specifically d n Mix, he was very complex. 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.639 He it is a very complex individual. I think you 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.600 look at he had mental health issues, he was he 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.240 had addiction from a very young age, you know, an 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.959 age of fourteen, somebody pretty much introduced him to drugs, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.919 who slipped him drugs. You know, then he had dealing 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.639 with just his own personal things that none of us 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.520 even know about. You know. So when you think about that, 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.520 it's it's going to take longer because when you do 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.919 something for so long, it becomes who you are, you 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.120 know it. It ain't like it was just something that, oh, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.600 it happened to him, so we have to change it 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.639 his his It became a part of him. So his 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.600 change in process was way different. And I know if 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.160 you just just talking about d and Y, just talking 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.720 about Swiss's talking about two shared or just talking about 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.520 even when his pastor was talking about you know, the 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.400 interaction that she had and how she talked to him 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.119 and how they embraced it's each other. You know, he 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.800 had people that loved him, He had people that wanted 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.960 to help. You know, I don't know necessarily know whether 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.159 or not he didn't want to receive the help, he 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.399 didn't know how to go, or you know, it was 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.400 it wasn't time for him, or you know, sometimes all 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.840 the time you have to be prepared to receive help. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.080 There's a lot of people that want to give you help, 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.199 but you have to actually be prepared, especially as an addict. 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.200 You have to say, you have to make up your 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:22.800 mind that you don't want to do it no more. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.159 Nobody can make up your mind. Went through that for 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.400 years with my mother and going through situations and and 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.600 crying and doing everything and doing everything. And the day 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:34.840 that she decided, she said, she woke up with then 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.360 and said, I just don't want to do this no more. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.159 And that's when she, you know, she decided that she 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.080 was gonna move forward. For twenty plus years she hasn't. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.920 She's been free, so, you know, drug free. So it's 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.000 a process, you know. So like you said that people 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.000 have to be ready to receive the help, They have 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.800 to make up their mind that they want to receive 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.840 the help. We should always try, you know, I don't. 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.440 I don't know if DMX. This situation is the situation 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.679 that we took about where people don't don't try to 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.720 help people. There are situations where there are times we 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:10.760 see people going down certain roads and nobody does interfere. 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.840 Some people just and you know, they empowered, they you know, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.280 they make somebody feel comfortable in this indocutive and they 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.480 don't stop them. So we have to talk about those two. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.680 But I think in this situation is just a little different. Yeah, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.800 I mean, I think, you know, and I wasn't that 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:31.000 close to the situation, but knowing to share, knowing Swiss 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:35.840 and Alicia, right, and and the relationships of all these individuals, 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.159 and just hearing why and D and and even you 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.320 talking about stories of things that happened in the past, 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.159 you know, D and his real trouble and fight to 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.840 try to save DMX and to make sure that he 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.440 was good. I think there were people there to help. 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.919 Of course, there's always going to be in neighborhoods. We 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.840 know that that that that's always going to be the case. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.920 But I think when we lean on enablers who are 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.800 also traumatized, also got they have issues. They were never 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.200 really your friends in the first place, and even if 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.600 they are, they have their weak um. You know, a 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.359 lot of people don't have the strength that it takes 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.359 to go up against somebody who was also strong, so 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.359 they just kind of fall into place and and and 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.760 that's how they deal with all everything in their lives. 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.439 But there are people who were there to help, and 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.920 it kind of reminds me of that story in the Bible, 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.880 or maybe it's a tale that people give. I don't 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.120 know if it's in the Bible or not. But when 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.600 they talk about Jesus sending the boat, you know, and 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.360 and and I think it's I think it is kind 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:43.760 of like an old folks tale. But they say, uh, 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:48.040 old wives tell. But they say, you know, he sent 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:53.919 multiple modes of transportation, if you will, to get the 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:57.359 people out of the wilderness. And they're like, well, I'm 0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.320 still waiting for the Lord to show up. Well, he 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.439 already showed old up in so many different ways. And 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.159 I think that we spent so much time trying to 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:09.080 chastise people and trying to find the one who didn't 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.920 do instead of focusing on the the many who did. 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.520 And and in my in my situation, you know, I 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:21.480 could say that no, nothing that anyone said, you know, 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.119 there were conversations that I had with each person who knew, 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:30.240 but there's nothing that any one person said that was 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.720 more powerful than what I was saying to myself. Then 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.600 when I started talking to myself, that's when the real 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.560 power came. That's when the real shift came. When I 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.359 said to Mika, you have to go, you know, you 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:47.280 have to get yourself clean. You know, today there is 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:52.280 a memory of a time one hundred article where Um, 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.679 Bob Land Lindus are sore carmon President I are in 0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.840 the magazine and it's a store read that was done 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.040 on us because we led the women's marshes was four 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.320 years later, Um, and you know that was that was 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.760 the time in my life, the first time in my 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:15.440 life that I became addicted to prescription medication because of 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.200 the stress that I went through during the Women's March, 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.560 just trying to get some sleep, just trying to calm 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.720 myself down from the tension and anxiety. It's no joke 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:31.600 to be in a situation where you are the leading 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.000 black woman in an environment where you're dealing with the 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:39.360 white supremacists who just became president. Still dealing with the 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.639 issues happening in our communities that we deal with every 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:47.000 single day. People still getting shot and killed, still supporting families, 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.720 you know, dealing with white women who who who many 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.199 of them were not in the movement, and even some 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.239 of them who think they were in the movement was 0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:00.119 still abusive. Um. You know, dealing with the trauma and 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.239 challenges of my personal life, with my own kid like 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.840 it was a lot. It was a lot happening. And 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.120 I know that with through the addiction that I suffered, 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.480 there was nothing that anybody could say. Y'all all said things. 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.600 Those people who knew, who were a part of the 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.400 small circle, said things like you gotta get it together, 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.480 will help you. It was I. It was me that 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.119 picked up the phone and called the friend and said, 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.359 could you please help me get into a program. And 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.280 then of course my my other friends, you know, Rachel 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:35.040 North Lincoln, others supported me through that process. But nobody 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.040 could take could take me anywhere on my own, you know, 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.520 against my will. There was nobody that could do that. 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.600 It's something that I had to be ready to do 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:49.119 for myself. And I understand because I suffer with addiction. 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.919 I'm not addicted today, Thank God, I've been cleaned for 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.160 two years and I'm so you know, grateful that God 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.480 saved my life. But I still have to always claim 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.560 that because they tell when you're going through the process, 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:06.280 if you don't understand addiction and how quick it can 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.280 grab you back, and you think that you're just living free, 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.000 and then you don't have to do the work on 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.439 a regular basis. You can find yourself relaxing. And so 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.600 I understand because when stress comes on me, even today, 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.080 like when I'm when I'm dealing with stress and I'm 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:28.359 dealing with UM, and I feel the tension because of 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.640 the fact that I'm strong willed, and I know that 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.840 the experience that I had with addiction UM was something 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.560 that you know, it was a one hit wonder. It's 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.240 never gonna happen to me again. There's nothing, there's nothing 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.840 that anybody could give me or any feeling that's so 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.800 good that I'm gonna find myself going out and getting 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:50.600 addicted again or relaxing. But I understand how when you 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.200 going through so much of you back in the public eye. 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.679 And look, the last thing I say on this is 0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:00.719 that I was removed. I removed myself. I literally resigned 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.440 from an organization that I started that nobody could put 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.480 me out of. My name was on all the bank 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.080 accounts I was, my name was on the incorporation documents, 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.480 and you couldn't put me out the Women's March. But 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.400 I chose to leave for my own mental health and 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.440 to be able to focus on the communities that I 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:22.160 know need need and and and my skill set the most. 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.479 So I removed myself. But DMX was never able to 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.439 remove himself from all the stuff that he was dealing with. 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.679 He was it was his life every day, dealing with 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.720 the ups and downs of the industry, to stressed the family, 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.000 to all of it, the trauma that he faced as 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.400 a child. That stuff he was never able to remove, 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.720 remove himself from. And so I think we all can 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.320 learn so much from his story. We can learn so 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.080 much from um. You know, the way in which people 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.080 loved him and the way in which they they as 0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.320 his family and friends, have sent him away. UM, And 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.400 hopefully his life and and the way that it ended 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:07.680 so abruptly will save somebody else who's watching with all 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.719 the same traumas, and people who look you look at 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.280 every day because with the Minnisterfericans say a lot of 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.040 people in public day one thing, but they're not really 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.600 that behind the scenes. And I took that to mean 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.760 a lot of things. But one of the things in 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.719 the context of dmx is life, is that there's a 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.440 lot of people out here suffering with addiction. Because I 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.960 never looked like I was suffering, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.520 It's a lot of people out here that's going through 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.640 a lot of things behind the wall, but their Instagram 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.520 page is popped, so that brings us to our streets 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:48.840 talking segment. Streets is always talking, and today they are 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:53.520 talking about these governors who are putting together policy that 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.960 makes it okay for people who are driving to actually 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.400 run over protesters. Now, this is crazy to me, like 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.560 just to to mentally fathomless when we think about what 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.120 happened in Charlottesville. They want they want that to be legal. 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.800 They're they're legalizing that. There's giving people the legal right 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.600 to run down protesters without having any legal recause. But 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.480 I don't even understand how somebody thinks that makes sense, 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.600 Like we're really just saying, hey, you can just kill 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.080 somebody because they're protested. They protested and there in a way, 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.440 go on and kill it. You know, I don't. I 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.120 don't even understand who comes up with this ship I 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.600 was I was looking for the young lady's name, just 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.400 so that we make sure we call her name. I 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:42.400 forgot again. I had to hire um. And it's not 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:47.920 just mowing down protesters. That's one part of legislation that's 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.520 being passed across the country that pretty much makes it 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.040 illegal to protests in some ways, or at least that 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.680 even the general public can take their own liberties with 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.120 how they want to deal with protests. To your point, 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.240 that was very good that you brought up had a 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:08.520 higher that these things could actually be legal. And what 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.720 I think people need to understand, Mice is that there 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:17.120 is a backlash every single time we had even the 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.760 slightest bit of progress. Now I know people will say, well, 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.000 Joe Biden is not progress for our communities because still 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.760 to date we are waiting to see what the Biden 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:33.960 administration is going to do specifically on policing um as 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.280 you know, as as it relates to the black community. 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.200 So I agree we all on the same page about that. 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.520 We believe that the George Floyd Justice and Police and 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.920 Act has to pass, It needs to be signed immediately, 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.920 and there needs to be more dumb even following that 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:55.400 particular legislative. I on that package. But we have to 0:31:55.440 --> 0:32:01.160 put ourselves in the mindset of white supremacy, because when 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:06.200 you think about white supremacists and how they operate in 0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:11.400 their mind we have gotten some form of progress done 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.960 right in their minds, so we may we understand that 0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.880 they're still mass, mass complications with any white man in 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.640 the office, and other people of color too. We know 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:28.480 that as a president, but they see it as we've 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:34.080 actually accomplished the goal because we came together as communities 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:38.480 of color, and particularly black people and black women came 0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:43.520 together and and ousted their dude. So they are in 0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:48.640 backlash mode. And they're smart because they realized we might 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.680 not have the White House, but we have states by 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:58.080 having governors, senators and otherwise who can actually come together 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:03.200 and draw up let inslation and then past bills. Right, 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.440 especially when I gotta say it, some of the Democrats 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.560 they sleep on the job, right, They're sleep on the job. 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:16.960 There's no mass movement that's happening on the streets of 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:21.200 these different states. Right. Two combat this this Why are 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:25.960 we not getting calls from elected officials in these states saying, yo, 0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.560 organized mass protests hit the ground. We need to be 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.600 on the ground that that that's not happening enough. It 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.120 did happen in Georgia, but it's not happening enough. These 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.080 bills are getting signed and we're hearing about it on 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:43.360 TV as the pen is going to the paper. There 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.560 has to be a better organizing strategy. It definitely has 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.120 to be a better organizing strategy. You know. Um, I 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.040 was watching The Breakfast Club the other day and Dr 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.760 Lumara Johnson said something that was you know that that 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.520 was kind of profound. You know. He said, Joe Biden 0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.280 has this anti Asian you know, um what what is it? 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:06.640 The anti discrimination law for the Asians. It was the 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:12.400 COVID nineteen Anti Violence like Act or something violence and 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.040 I and I agree with it. He also said that 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.720 there have been two hundred laws that they introduced about 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.879 anti lynching which affect with black people that have never 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.719 been brought into law, you know. And I think when 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:29.240 you think about that, that that makes you think like wow, answer, 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.319 you would think it's common sense. Hey, you just can't 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:36.640 lench people. You know, re lynching is directly attached to 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.440 black people. You know, this is something This was an 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.480 m matil law that they wanted to pass. And so 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.640 when you look at that and say two hundred times 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.600 nobody saw that, you know, it made sense to say 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.200 that lynching is illegal. You know that that's something that 0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:56.480 that directly, you know, correlates to the pain and trauma 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.800 of black people is illegal. Naming it after someone who 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.960 was was was killed for nothing that we know was 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.239 pretty much killed that that history records, the person who 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.200 lied on them admitted that they lied on them, was 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.960 killed for nothing. And we can't haven't got this bill passed. 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.600 I think, you know, we have to be very very 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.600 alarm at stuff like this. You know, it's alarming because, 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.880 like most of us, we were hoping that this administration 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.319 does more for us. You know that we're hoping that 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.359 it changes a lot. But we, like I said, I'm 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.920 always gonna be critical and we're gonna hold you too, 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.840 and we're gonna push the line every time, you know. 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.040 So when we see disparities like this, and we see 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.759 situations like this and understanding what it actually says, we 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.120 can't I'm not me personally, I just can't ignore that. 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.040 I can't sit back and say, well, you know, I 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.799 don't know what to say. No, it's not right. You know, 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.960 there's no way that we just we should not have 0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.799 an anti legon law. There are other things that that 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.920 people are saying Biden should be doing this. He's only 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.040 been in a hundred days. Okay, I'm give you a 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.759 little more time with certain things like this. These are 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.799 things that should be advocated for right now. These are 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.879 things that you know, these these laws that they write 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.319 in executive orders could be given right now. You know, 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.880 there's no need for us to wait about the anti 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.239 Lynchon bill. Yeah, No, I think there's a lot more 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:21.200 that can be done. And certainly, um, you know, we're 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:25.319 going to be hitting the streets very soon to to 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:30.960 challenge Joe Manchin, who is the Senator from West Virginia 0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.799 that has really been standing in the way of progress. 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.520 And you know, we're not stopping. So we always knew 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.440 we were gonna have to fight. We didn't think that 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.800 Joe Ian was gonna get in office in the world 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.040 would change. We always knew we would have to fight, 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.399 and we're prepared to do that now. And so, uh, 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.160 you know that's that's sort of where I stand on it. Um. 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:57.040 I think that what we're seeing is not as surprising 0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:01.160 as some would think they have to change. Nothing has changed. 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.640 The only thing that we can do is go as 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.439 hard um in terms of the organization that it took 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.880 to get a president and price president elected, that same 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.479 energy is needed in order for us to make sure 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.440 that we're pushing policy as well. Now, to be clear, 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.640 A T L you as well as the INN Double 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.640 a CP Legal Defense Fund, and people need to know 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.279 it is two totally different things. There's the INN Double 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:34.360 a CP organization who has so many people in it 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.520 that I love and and work with UM. But there 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.960 is the INN Double a CP Legal Defense Fund, which 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.719 is a completely separate organization. They were established at a 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:48.359 time when all the leaders were working together, so of 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:53.360 course you know the names are are closely aligned UM. 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.279 And then there's history there that people should go read 0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:00.160 up on. But today, as we are sitting here, these 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.200 are two separate organizations. They don't have the same board, 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.439 they don't have the same president. One is led by 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:12.400 Sherylyn Eiffel, who is a black woman, UM and and 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.360 then the other is led by Derek Johnson, who's a 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.120 black man. Two separate organizations, but a c l U 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.400 N double a CP Legal Defense Fund and many others. 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.680 And I think also the N double a CP. Don't 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.520 quote me, but I believe so. They are suing some 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.600 of these states for the laws UM that they are passing, 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.960 that they're signing into law. They are they are suing them. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.920 There are actual lawsuits out there, and those organizations matter 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.200 as well. There's so many layers to what has to 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.919 be done to to fight back and to push back 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.279 against white supremacy. Uh, you know that we we don't 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:54.000 have enough people doing the work. So that's the deal. 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.120 We need to keep our eyes on these different states 0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.800 and you need to figure out who is your governor 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.840 and what type of policy are they looking at. What's 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.840 the conversations. It's not hard to find because they organized, 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.719 they have rallies, they have conversations. It might be zoomed down, 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.799 but nonetheless, if you go to their websites and you 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.760 read up, you can see where they're meaning in terms 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.960 of policy um and in terms of their opinions and 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.000 feelings about what should happen in your state. Do some research, 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.480 find those things out, because you might be the one 0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.719 to say, whoa is something happening here? And before they 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.480 actually signed this law, with this bill, we are going 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.120 to hit the streets and push back. They are not 0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.920 going to stop if they think that the people are quiet, right, 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.000 We're always gonna push back. So just know that Joe Biden, 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.040 we on you, Joe Mention, we on you. Everybody that 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.880 can do something for us, that got the the ability 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.120 to pass these laws and you're trying to pass laws 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.600 that directly target us as protesters, black people and everything 0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:02.040 were on you. We own you, you know. Minus. We 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.960 always talk about all our friends, and today we have 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.200 another one of our friends. We're in a good company though. 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:12.160 We've got people that we worked with every day, and 0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:15.680 Tesla and Figua is certainly one of those individuals. A 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:19.800 dear sister, a dear friend, UM and a powerhouse. So 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.880 I want to tell y'all first of all, now we 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:26.200 tell people every day to listen to Tesla, So I 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.360 y'all should know if you don't know who Teslin is 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.520 at this point, you're missing out because we get educated 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:36.640 every single day from this dear sister and powerhouse. Our 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:41.799 partner really in many ways and ally accomplice, really an 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.920 accomplice in this struggle. Um. So she is uh the 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:51.120 head of a communications group called Teslain Figureo Communications Group 0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.400 where she does a lot of political consulting work. She 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:59.600 also supports many families, particularly the most notable at this 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.840 moment it is the family of George Floyd um working 0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:07.360 alongside Ben Crump. And I'm sure she uh is a 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:11.680 thorn and being prompt side sometimes because she's always kicking 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.800 it to him real and making sure that he's keeping 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.239 his eyes opening his head on the swivel in terms 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.520 of all of these different cases um that he's working 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.400 on and and policy changes that need to happen in 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.759 alignment with those um cases. And then she is a 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:33.040 part of the Black Effect podcast network, Charlemagne's network that 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.920 he started and brought all of us onto, which is 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:40.640 a great podcast network. If you are not following Black Effect, 0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.239 if you are not a part of our family, we 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.040 need to become a part of it right away. UM. 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.919 There are many podcasts, not just Um Street Politicians, which 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.239 we know is your favorite because we're number one, but 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.640 there's some others that are also on the network, and 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.919 one of them is Straight Shot Mo Chase, so where 0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.000 you really get the low down, uh from Teslain on 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.520 a regular basis. And so we're happy today to have 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:10.120 our sister tesling figure roll straight shot no Chaser, because 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.960 that is exactly who she is. Tesla, thank you so 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.480 much for being with us, our dear sister and friends. 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.200 O what a warm introduction. Thank you so much. You 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.719 said too much. I'm just the home girl, but I'm 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.840 glad to be here. Thank you so much. As honor. 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.000 It's always honor the sea. Test. Like you said, straight shot, 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.480 no chaser. We outside. That's my outside partner. They hate 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.000 when we say we outside. Man, if you don't know 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:38.080 Test Test listened to me, Tessa text me sometimes like 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.440 I'm about to go in on these clowns. You know. 0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.719 She she'll test me like, look to tune in because 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.440 I'm about to go in, and I tune in, I 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.440 get my popcorn, and she's gonna break it down to you. 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.600 She don't duck no, she ain't ducking no smoke, you 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.440 know what I'm saying. She's gonna stand on what she's 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.279 standing on every time. She's one of the favorite, one 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.560 of my favorite people to just listen to and just 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.560 get commentary from because it's always gonna be wrong and authentic. 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.040 And you know, we have so many similarities because we 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.919 both have that hood background, you know what I'm saying. 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.840 We have that background where we understand the dynamics of 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.440 the streets, but we understand how to you know, the 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.880 to navigate through these suits. So you know, she's definitely 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.719 one of my favorite people. So now since you're on here, 0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.320 I have a segment that I do you know, and 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.600 I've seen you talking about this yesterday, so that's why 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:27.479 it's perfect that you actually here. This segment is called 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:30.640 I don't get it, you know, And what I don't 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.280 get right now is we know McCay bryant was killed 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.479 at the hands of the police. What I don't get 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:44.919 it's how we have so many people that come from 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.319 actually come from the communities in the backgrounds that we 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:52.719 have that are justifying this fifteen year old girl being 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:56.360 killed shot pretty much in the back by officers. You know, 0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:00.440 I don't get. I understand that legally they can do this. 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.520 I get it, you know, there is legal terms that justified, 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.680 but I don't understand how morally I were moral conscious 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.279 and I'm more compass makes people believe that it was 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:16.360 okay for officers to shoot a fifteen year old four 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.160 times after about seven seconds from getting from his car 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.800 and not asking no questions, not grabbing, not trying to intervene, 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.840 but shoot up four times to end her life. And 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:30.600 there's so many people saying, well, what else could he 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.200 have done? I really just don't get that. I just 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.600 don't get that mind stage. Can you kind of help me, 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.839 or can you give me some understanding of what you 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.000 think they mean or how you think people are viewing 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.319 this situation. Yeah, and again thanks for having me my side. 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.080 I really think it comes down to it. It's a 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.600 couple of people in the comments. When you know, when 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.760 I say in the comments, I'm talking about people overall 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.680 that are making comments on this particular case. You have 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:59.359 one folks who are simply white supremacists who are using 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.040 troll account ounce to be able to use this case 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:06.399 as an example to distract from the obvious evidence from 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.160 the George Floyd case that nobody that was very hard 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:13.320 for anybody to argue. This gives them a case to say, 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.279 what about the nice what about protecting the girl in 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.000 the pink? You know, I knew, I know you guys 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.000 don't care about black on black crime because you're not 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.640 standing for her. So it gives them an opportunity to 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.160 have a conversation that they've been waiting to have to say, look, look, look, 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.720 we told you people black folks do try to harm 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.520 other black people. Because we have an opportunity to say, look, look, 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.480 look look at what happened with George Floyd. We told 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.759 you That's what we've been talking about. So you have 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.759 that person who was out there doing that, who was 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:47.360 intentionally creating chaos around this to distract you into adjudicating 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:50.600 every single step of this particular case. Then you have 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:55.560 the second person that's in the comments, who is for 0:45:55.800 --> 0:46:00.919 black people, for the movement, but they understand the word justification. 0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:05.160 They're having a language issue. When we say it's justified, 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.800 we we do not mean that it is justice, meaning 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.759 that we are not treated equally, But they're using the 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.880 word justified as a way of if we were to 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:19.840 take this case to trial. Uh and based upon policy, 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.239 what you want to talk about all the time, what 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.440 needs to be changed? Policy says that he had the 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:28.280 right to intervene if he if if someone was getting 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.440 ready to cause him deadly harm or someone else a 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:35.479 third party. So there's people in the comments I would 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:39.680 say that truly are just having a language issue and 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.479 are and they're not strapped with knowledge and facts on 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:47.600 what it is that you, Tamika and Linda and me 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.000 and so many others are trying to talk about when 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.240 we talk about overall policing. So you have these different 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.279 elements you know, that are going on at the same time, 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.080 and actually, you know, I'm talking to attorney at Lee 0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.760 Jackson yesterday trade by Marn's attorney, and she said, tests 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.600 these are the cases that really show where people stand. 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.480 It gives us an opportunity to have political education. It 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.879 gives us an opportunity to go deeper into things that 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.600 are our community should fix within ourselves. And in addition 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:16.120 to what we should hold the police, are the government 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:20.040 accountable for when you say the words it's not right 0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.160 and when I hear right. And I was talking to 0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.120 our brother Charlemagne about this, but it's not right, it's 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:25.880 not right to think. He even talked about it, you know, 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:29.160 on the Breakfast Club. And so I reminded him of 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:32.680 the quote from Martin Luther King and said, morality cannot 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:38.000 be legislated, but behavior can be regulated. Digital decrees may 0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.320 not change the heart, but they can restrain the heart less. 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.719 So when we're using language to say but it's not right, 0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.759 but it's not right, my question is how do we 0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:52.000 fix it? How do we legislate morality Where we can't 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:56.960 legislate morality. We also don't want to say who's in 0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.919 charge of determining what's right and what's wrong, because more 0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.360 likely than not, most of the things that we do 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:08.480 will be determined not right. So when we're advocating, what 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.759 is it that we're trying to change about this situation? 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:14.800 I did my life. I'm so glad you got stopped 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.799 in because I want to make a point to everybody, 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.080 particularly those that are challenging until freedom and what you 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.640 guys do your role as an activist, and I need 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.080 people to get this, like understand that you don't do 0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.879 what they do. We need you pushing the line all day, 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:32.360 every day for black life period. That that goes for Makaya, 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:36.640 the Young Lady, and the pink Uh, George Floyd, whoever else, 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:38.520 the many cases that you work on. The people know 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.800 nothing about. You have a role as an activist to 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.279 like we said in the hood, get active. You're a 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.480 frontline soldier. So when I see people say in the comments, well, 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:50.480 they should be saying this, and they should be saying that, No, 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:52.880 your role is to do what they won't do because 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:54.520 the reality of it is they get to go to 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.719 work tomorrow and say I'm turning it off. I've had 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.319 so many people, and you know, we talked about this 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.600 with the George Floyd case. So many people that I've 0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:02.840 known throughout my career that's never called me to do 0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.560 a mental health check in until the George Floyd case. 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.640 Because they said, how do you deal with this every day? 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.920 I said, this is every day, like y'all just now 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:12.680 paying attention. But they were forced to turn on the TV. 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.560 They couldn't look anywhere without here about it, and they said, 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:19.560 I cannot deal with the trauma. And I said, this 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:24.160 is why, you know. It requires a personality like to me, 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.920 to like my son, to be able to have the 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.360 armor of God as you, as I would say, to 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.839 be able to go out and fight these battles while 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.239 everybody else go to work on Monday. So we need 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:39.080 you turned all the way up ten and higher because 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.280 of what you've been called to do now for people 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.360 like me. And I'm just I'm framing this and I 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.120 won't be long, but I'm framing this because I want 0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.840 people to get this, people like me. To the political 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.600 commentators on TV, I got two minutes in thirty seconds 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.880 most times to respond to a question. I have to 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.520 answer the question. I have to give uh answer what 0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.680 they asked. I have to give my point of what 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.280 I'm trying going to get out, all in two minutes 0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.600 and twenty seconds so when I have less than three 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:07.120 minutes to take a stand, I am standing for black people. 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:11.160 Let's never get that twisted. These types of platforms allow 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.920 us to have the overall conversation on what is it 0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.400 about this case that is that is stuck, keeping people 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.359 stuck and and making people feel some type of way. 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.759 What I would say, my sign is there's three things 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:28.880 that we talked about this before. There's protests, there's policy, 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:32.560 and then there's punishment. In that order, you cannot have 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:36.360 policy without protests. I'm secle folks saying protesting doesn't matter. 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:40.000 You cannot have policy without protests because somebody got to 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:46.359 pull somebody's card. Period nexus policy. If I were to say, 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.319 I want people to consider, what is it that is 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:55.160 going to change police officers killing unarmed black people in 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.719 our community when they arrive on the scene. Let's give 0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:01.920 some facts quickly. A thousand civilians are killed each year 0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:05.720 by law enforcement officers. Black men are two point five 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.160 times more likely than white men to be killed by 0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.719 the police. There was another study that said black people 0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.879 who were fatally shot by the police were twice as 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.440 likely let me say it again, twice as likely to 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:23.960 be unarmed opposed to white people. There's another stack from 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.160 Texas A and M in college station. Folks can look 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:30.480 this up. Two million, nine one one calls in two U. S. 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:36.840 Cities concluded that white officers dispatched to black neighborhoods fired 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:40.920 their guns five times more than black officers. Does that 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.399 mean that black officers, uh don't break the uh keep 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:47.080 the wall, the blue wall of silence. Absolutely, there was 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.920 a black officer on the sul Macayah. We are certainly 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:52.400 not saying that black officers are better than white folks. 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.560 What this says is that black officers that respond to 0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:02.600 situations in our neighborhoods are five times less likely to 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.960 shoot a gun, maybe because they don't have our fear 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.439 for my life, Maybe because they don't see another black 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.680 man as a threat, maybe because running away doesn't hurt 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:14.560 their ego, their white privilege ego, because resisting only hurts 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.239 the ego. It doesn't hurt anybody but the ego. When 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.839 you're running away, when you're trying to get away like Dante, right, 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.640 the ego saying how dare you do this? And then 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:24.560 me shoot? That is an ego issue and we have 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.160 to start using that language as such. So people that 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.399 don't like the Macayo Bryan case, I tell them this. 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.600 If you don't like this, then pick one that you 0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.640 do like. Going back and forth, trying to judicate with 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.520 every single person is draining the energy of the movement, 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.279 and it is strategically being done because at the end 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.160 of the day, I continue to keep asking people if 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.400 they say, well, she had a knife, Okay, I got you, 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.279 And how do we stop black people from being killed 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:49.400 five times more than than anybody else when the police 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.240 are called, Well, she was getting ready to harm the girl. Okay, 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.080 I got you. Now, how do we stop people from 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.080 being killed five times more likely when they respond in 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.960 our neighborhood? Oh well he was resistant, Okay, I got you. Now, 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.120 how do we respond it? You continue to keep asking 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.200 it for those who give a damn about what's happening 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:04.680 with black people. If you give a damn about with 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.480 having black people, that's the talking point. Continue to ask that, 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.160 and you know what that's gonna do? My sign make 0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:11.279 them come up with a solution. Nobody wants to come 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:13.440 up with a solution. It's better to just continue to 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.840 be a clown in the comments. The bottom line is, 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.080 what do we do to make sure that unarmed black people, 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.240 well Mkaya was armed. Okay, but what about five times 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.759 more likely the unarmed black people get killed. Throw it 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:26.879 back to them to give them a solution, because then 0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.480 you have to say, what do we do when we 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:32.600 task the Justice and George George Floyd Act Senator Joe 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.600 Manson get off your ass and make it happen. It 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.520 makes you take a look and see who you're leadering. Oh, 0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.600 that's not gonna do anohing like okay, well we know 0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:40.680 not doing nothing. Damn show I'm not gonna do nothing. 0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:42.880 So we can continue to keep saying or what's not 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.560 gonna happen? Was that's gonna happen? Or we can continue 0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.920 to push the line. And that's so important. I think 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.440 everything that you said is, you know, very clear, and 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:55.000 I think it also helps us as advocates in terms 0:53:55.040 --> 0:54:00.560 of when we are making a case for ended duals, 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:04.319 for policy change, for whatever it is, that it has 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:07.919 to all be rooted in the solution um. And that's 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.560 why I think you saw and a love that the 0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:13.160 four co founders of Until Freedom did the other day 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:17.879 we were talking about defunding the police and explaining the 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.640 system that has been created in New York to deal 0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:23.680 with violence. It's a solution and it can be UM 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.560 used across the nation. It's a model for the entire 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.520 country of how you take money from police departments and 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:34.080 put it into programming within our community that deals with 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:37.080 mental health, that deals with UM, you know, dealing with 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:41.920 families that are traumatized for a multitude of of of reasons, UM, 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:45.440 dealing with with different issues UM. It also deals with 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:50.160 drug abuse, UM. It deals with clean food UM, you know, 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.360 and addressing the issues of food deserts. I mean, there's 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.640 so many things that can happen if you don't put 0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:02.879 six billion dollars like New York into policing for them 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:08.400 to buy military equipment that they barely ever use except 0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:11.560 when they show up at protests because for the most part, 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:16.239 the issues that bring police out in military equipment because 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:20.200 we don't have terrorism UM issues every single day. Not 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.960 saying that there doesn't have to be a closet or 0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.799 a locker room somewhere that's got all the things you 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.960 need in case we are attacked. We we we agree 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:32.080 that there needs to be a response to that, but 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.759 we see police officers on our street corners dealing with 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:41.719 protests with tanks and military equipment that they should not 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.919 be using to address protesters who, by the way, we're 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.799 not protesting to say we want the right to go 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.040 break in a store and steal closed we want the 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.440 right to just cause them. No, you killed somebody. You 0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:59.480 killed one of our beloved family, loved ones, you know, 0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:03.560 people we care about, and the response is to cover 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.920 it up or to ignore the pain that is coming 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.120 from the community, and then to meet us with military 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.960 equipment as if we are the criminals, as if we 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:16.960 are committed the the act that caused the unrest. And 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.880 so that for us, UM to your point, is a solution, 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.520 and it's something that we constantly talk about. And I 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:28.640 think in the Macayah Bryant situation, your language and your 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:33.799 explanation around how officers are five times more likely to 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.840 kill people in our community, particularly white officers. Again, we 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:41.400 know black officers do some of the same things, but 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.080 we know that in most of these cases, it is 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:48.120 a white officer who has committed UM an act of killing, 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.840 abusing and threatening the life of of of a black person. 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.080 And I saw this on Joy and Read's page. I 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.239 thought it was really important. I want to read it 0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.840 um to you all today. So this is a tweet 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:05.560 that she put up where she is advocating uh for 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.799 Macaya Bryant, and in fact it is a repost from 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.640 a man the seals. Um I don't know who Molly 0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:15.160 Shack is. Maybe you all do know what I don't know. 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:19.560 So she says, while national eyes are on Columbus police 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:24.280 because of the horrific slang of sixteen year old Makaya Bryant, 0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:28.840 let me remind you of recent events that demonstrate the 0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:33.960 irredeemably tyrannical, racist, and violent nature to talk amount of 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:38.920 the police department. So she shows the night before Macaya 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:43.160 was killed, thousands of white Ohio State fans celebrating a 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:48.320 practice football scrimmage by flipping and burning cars. Police did 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:52.320 not come and no one was arrested. Okay, but you'll say, well, 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:55.800 but that's still not someone charging at another individual with 0:57:55.880 --> 0:58:00.200 a knife. So these are other stories. CPD kill old 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:04.280 Casey Goodson Jr. Who was walking into his home with 0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:08.840 a subway sandwich for his family. They killed Andre Hill 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.880 just a few days after that. He was in the 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:16.040 garage of his friend's house at the dropping off Christmas presents. 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:19.800 Um I think that that's also a case that attorney 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:24.080 Benjamin Crump is on and is fighting for his family. Uh. 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:28.080 The Monday before, Columbus police shot and killed a black 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:32.720 man named Miles Jackson in the emergency room at St. 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:36.840 Anne's Hospital after bringing him there for a suspected overdose. 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.280 Of course, it talks about McKay Bryan. Now, this was 0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.480 what I thought was staggering. It says in the last 0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:48.360 five years CPD has killed more than thirty people, most 0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:54.080 of whom were black. Tyree King was thirteen, Julius Tape 0:58:54.120 --> 0:59:00.440 was sixteen, Abd Rhyman Salad was sixteen, was fifteen, Henry 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:05.440 Green and Donna Dalton were twenty three. Okay, and there's 0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:09.960 a list. There's a list of other individuals. Now, there 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:13.240 will be some people Teslain and Mason, who will make 0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:18.120 the case that, well, this situation was different. But I 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:21.760 submit and will continue to say that I do not 0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:26.479 believe that police officers who know the communities they work 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:28.840 and they may not know the individuals, but they know 0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.840 the demographics. They know when they show up that it's 0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:35.360 more than likely black folks in this neighborhood, white folks 0:59:35.360 --> 0:59:38.880 in this neighborhood Latinos and another and so on and 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:43.000 so forth. I do not believe that police officers are 0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:47.400 showing up to places where sixteen year old girl a 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:51.800 sixteen year old girl black women. To your point, maybe 0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:55.600 they didn't know she was sixteen, but black women are 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.560 having a fight, and and and and and and let 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:00.800 me say it in the reverse, because that's my point. 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:06.200 Where white girls, white women are in an altercation where 1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:09.760 they pull out their weapon and shoot four times to 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:14.680 the body a young white girl, I don't see it happening. Now. 1:00:15.000 --> 1:00:18.440 Somebody said to me, well, there was this case over here, 1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:21.880 in this case over here. Okay, perhaps there's been one 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:24.920 or two times. There's nothing that's absolute in life, right 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:27.560 except the fact that we're going to die. That's it. 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:31.680 So I understand that. But when we look at the numbers, 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:37.800 it is overwhelmingly the case that police officers respond to 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:43.720 our communities without discernment, without taking the time to figure out, 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:48.200 and they kill people too often. And now a sixteen 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:51.960 year old baby is dead. And of course I'm not crazy. 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:56.400 I understand the complications of everything that was happening. I 1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:58.959 get to your point when you say, you know, people 1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:00.680 want to talk about the force one. I get it, 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:03.320 the force, the home, the other parents, the the the 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:06.560 the where were the adults? I get that. I am 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:10.040 specifically dealing with the fact that we are burying too 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:13.680 many of our own people at the hands of police. 1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:19.720 And I want to know what type of um training, right, 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:23.280 because everything is about training and I don't believe that 1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:27.240 training is the resolve. I do not believe that training 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.960 is the resolve to this issue. I believe that, as 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:35.320 you said, policy change and corrective behavior through accountability and 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:39.600 punishment for when you commit crimes in our community is 1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:42.480 the only thing that's going to stop police brutality or 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:45.120 to at least reduce it. That's what I believe. But 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.840 if we're going to retrain, and that's a part, cool, 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:53.760 show me what the training is that. Ericaford of Life 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:58.440 Camp in Queens, A. T. Mitchell in of man Up 1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:02.760 in Brooklyn. Um, Uh, what's our brother's name in d C? 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:08.920 My son Tony Lewis Jr. In d C. And the 1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:14.720 list goes on and on and on, because as we know, 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:18.160 most black people do not call the police, but that 1:02:18.280 --> 1:02:21.120 does not mean that they're not dealing with issues. Right. 1:02:21.640 --> 1:02:27.840 These anti violence advocates, the social work is at school teachers, 1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:33.840 in classrooms, on playgrounds. Mama them, what kind of training 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:38.480 do they have where they are able to disarm? And 1:02:38.520 --> 1:02:41.920 when I talk about these these anti violence advocates, a 1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:45.560 knife would be a nice day for them. They're dealing 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:50.680 with guns, real weapons, weapons that folks are, that folks 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:54.200 have and kids have, and I'm prepared to kill one 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:58.200 another another over all types of things. And somehow Erica 1:02:58.240 --> 1:03:01.360 Ford tells the story of just how last summer they 1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:05.840 literally took knives and bleach out of the hands of 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:09.480 young girls who had gotten into a fight. Now, unless 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:13.760 you're telling me that white people don't have these fights, 1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:16.200 so maybe that's the point, and my son, you can 1:03:16.240 --> 1:03:19.400 of course jump in here. But perhaps what they're saying 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:23.080 is that white people don't have fights, they don't have knives, 1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:25.600 they don't get into these types of things, that they 1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:28.439 are much more orderly in their communities, and that when 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:31.240 the police show up and they say, you know, drop it, 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:33.880 or they just show up because you know, it was 1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:36.320 so much fighting happening in that moment, I could see 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:39.040 how you don't even know that there's an officer there 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:41.840 which not to mention their two other officers who are 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:44.880 standing there who are who don't have their weapons drawn, 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:48.120 So I don't you know all of the dynamics there. 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:52.000 To me, says that there was an opportunity to do 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:56.200 whatever you do when you go to other communities where 1:03:56.200 --> 1:03:59.000 they have the same ship going on. But unless people 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:02.400 are saying that that's not the case, then maybe I'm crazy. 1:04:02.720 --> 1:04:05.600 But that's what I see, And so this is where 1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:08.280 I'm where where I am. And by the way, when 1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:11.560 you talk about us being advocate, when you speak about, 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:14.520 you know, us being on one extreme, because we're dealing 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:17.080 with people who are on such a far extreme that 1:04:17.160 --> 1:04:19.960 we could never get extreme enough in order to be 1:04:20.040 --> 1:04:23.360 able to counterbalance what we are up against in terms 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:28.120 of how white supremacy is perpetuated within our communities. Um. 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:31.920 But when you talk about that, for my position, the 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:34.560 role that I think we take is one to look 1:04:34.560 --> 1:04:39.440 at the overall, not just situation by situation by situation, 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:42.280 is to look at the overall, and it's and for me, 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:46.000 I'm willing to stand up for the shooter and the 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:50.080 person who is shot, right. I am an advocate who 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:54.880 understands that whatever Macaya Bryant went through for her whole 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:58.160 life matters in the moment that we're looking at it matters. 1:04:58.200 --> 1:05:01.080 It may not matter to a police office. And perhaps 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:03.920 I know I'm talking long, but this is important to me. 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:10.640 Perhaps the reason why social worker and anti violence UH interrupter, 1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:16.960 a teacher, Mama, Auntie, and the neighbor can disarmed and 1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:20.680 deal with these types of things without someone dying is 1:05:20.760 --> 1:05:23.720 because they actually care about the communities that they work 1:05:23.760 --> 1:05:27.160 in and the people that they're working with. Perhaps that's 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:31.280 the difference. That's the that's the whole difference. That's that's 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:33.640 pretty much the whole thing. And that's my premise. It's like, 1:05:33.960 --> 1:05:36.920 you know, I understand what's justified. I understand what legal, 1:05:37.360 --> 1:05:40.080 legally they can do, but I understand that me as 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:42.400 a man coming from my community, if I come into 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:46.000 my community, that's gonna be the last resort that's gonna 1:05:46.080 --> 1:05:48.360 that's gonna be the first. Not within eight seconds, am 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:51.240 I gonna shoot teach two girls fighting and shoot. I'm 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:53.960 gonna I might, I might risk my own life, I 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:57.200 might take have to take one of those stab wounds 1:05:57.240 --> 1:05:59.800 before I'm trying to take a fifteen year old girl. 1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:01.960 It's not gonna be in my mind, say my moral 1:06:02.000 --> 1:06:05.680 compass does not allow me to say, hey, I'm The 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:09.480 first thing I think is I have to completely take 1:06:09.520 --> 1:06:12.040 this lady's life. It just it's not in me. And 1:06:12.080 --> 1:06:14.760 we need we need or first of all, we need. 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:18.960 The screening process for who becomes an officer has to change, right. 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:21.480 You can't just you gotta have more than just a 1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:24.520 high school dipromo at this point. You gotta have you 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:27.320 gotta have some level of for the two. You gotta 1:06:27.360 --> 1:06:30.200 have some level of manhood, some strength. You can't be 1:06:30.240 --> 1:06:33.200 scared because the fact that we have these scared officers, 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:34.960 because that's the first thing they said, they feared for 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:37.960 their life, and they don't even be threatened Like I 1:06:38.040 --> 1:06:40.880 got my homeboys that's in the park that have no training, 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:43.360 that have taken knives out of girl's hands. I've taken 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:46.200 knives out of my sisters in them hands a million times, 1:06:46.440 --> 1:06:47.840 you know what I'm saying. Saying, So when we have 1:06:48.040 --> 1:06:51.440 officers who are who trained and paid to come to 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:55.040 our community to protect and serve, who's first thought is 1:06:55.120 --> 1:06:57.280 I'm so much in fear, I'll get out my coat, 1:06:57.360 --> 1:06:59.600 my hand on my gun. I see two women. I 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:01.480 never take my hand off the gun. I never try 1:07:01.520 --> 1:07:04.400 to intervene. I'm close enough to grab one of them, 1:07:04.560 --> 1:07:06.960 I don't reach. I just pulled my gun out and 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:09.800 I aim with this target because I see this knife 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:11.840 in my hand and I'm so much in fear. If 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:14.280 you come from our communities, then you're gonna know that 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:16.560 it's gonna be knobs all the time. You're gonna come 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:19.160 in there with a different mindset. You're gonna understand what 1:07:19.280 --> 1:07:21.800 the dynamics is, what the culture is, how do you 1:07:21.880 --> 1:07:25.000 do you de escalate, how do you disarm people? You 1:07:25.040 --> 1:07:27.840 know what? What's the risk? The real risk fact that 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:30.880 you did well. We need people who understand that. And 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:33.480 it's not just so much as them actually coming from 1:07:33.520 --> 1:07:36.080 the because they're coming from the community and understand the 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:38.960 culture is is definitely primar to me. But it's just 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:44.000 about having a level of manhood and bravery. Right. We 1:07:44.080 --> 1:07:47.920 can't you can't hire cowards to be police officers. But 1:07:48.960 --> 1:07:51.160 and I agree, and these are all important points, which 1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:53.760 is why this case is so important to have as 1:07:53.840 --> 1:07:57.960 a community, because there's so many different intricacies and people 1:07:58.080 --> 1:07:59.920 are kind of finding, you know, what they want to 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.800 catch on too. I like to deal with facts, you know, 1:08:03.080 --> 1:08:06.880 And because when I'm doing commentary and I am usually 1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:10.280 debating somebody that is on the extreme right, I can't 1:08:10.360 --> 1:08:13.680 leave any opening for a what had happened was so 1:08:13.920 --> 1:08:17.280 all of our arguments are are important, but I try 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:22.080 to stick to the overarching thing because we can't legislate 1:08:22.120 --> 1:08:24.439 somebody to care. We can't make somebody care. What we 1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:29.040 can do, though, is start talking about maybe we need 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:32.640 to consider removing the shoot center man's maybe we need 1:08:32.680 --> 1:08:35.120 to consider removing I was in fear for my life. 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:37.479 Maybe we need to reconsider like to me, because said, 1:08:37.479 --> 1:08:40.000 how do we disarm people? Because based on the facts 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:43.680 since two thousand five, thirteen thousand, I'm getting into the 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:48.639 punishment side, thirteen thousand deadly police shootings, only a hundred 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:53.840 and six officers were charged with murder or manslaughter, and 1:08:53.920 --> 1:08:56.720 only thirty three of them were convicted, but not of 1:08:56.840 --> 1:09:00.759 murder on manslaughter, which is the same thing of somebody 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:04.280 driving drunk and oh I just accidentally, you know, kill someone. 1:09:04.800 --> 1:09:06.880 These are the facts, and when it says only four 1:09:06.880 --> 1:09:10.240 of them were convicted with murder, these are facts. So 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:13.960 the part that we can change right now, while we're 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:17.200 working to change people's hearts, while we're working too, because 1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:19.080 I always make it clear that defund the police is 1:09:19.120 --> 1:09:22.479 absolutely important because you guys do work all of the 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:23.960 other work that they say, oh, don't do that. I 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:25.559 don't know. You keep repeating it over and over. What 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:28.080 you do, um, you know, for dealing with issues within 1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:31.040 our community. But all of those that defund the police 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:34.560 mechanism plays into that, putting that money into the community 1:09:34.720 --> 1:09:37.960 so that you don't have volicial situations. And by the way, 1:09:38.000 --> 1:09:40.080 I'm not talking about black on black crime. Why don't 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:43.080 white crime, Asian or Asian crime, Hispanic on Hispanic crime. 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:45.479 Anytime people live among each other is gonna be crimes, 1:09:45.520 --> 1:09:49.360 So let's kill that that that argument. But deefund the 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:53.680 police does not deal with punishment. That goes into policy. 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:56.559 We when we talk about policy, we deal with the law, 1:09:57.080 --> 1:10:00.759 the law, and then administrative policy. Over one hundred cities 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:03.640 changed administrative policy since the death of George Floyd. We 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:06.040 don't talk about that enough. Why are we not following 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:09.920 that New York City in the qualified immunity, Colorado the 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:13.240 state in the qualified immunity. You heard more about New 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:15.800 York because New York is the largest city, and most 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:18.360 folks talked about it, but people didn't even know Colorado 1:10:18.439 --> 1:10:19.680 did it at all. And they have some of the 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:23.200 most progressive police reformed policies that they put in place. 1:10:23.600 --> 1:10:26.559 So to me, it all comes down to the policy. 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:30.040 But we need all these different voices. But I hope 1:10:30.400 --> 1:10:33.200 that all of us that are constantly, you know, in 1:10:33.200 --> 1:10:37.360 in this conversation every day, live, eat, eat, breathing, that 1:10:37.439 --> 1:10:40.479 we're centering it on policy. And that's what I'm asking, 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:44.599 make sure that we're including policy because I don't expect 1:10:44.600 --> 1:10:46.840 them to give a damn. I really don't. I I 1:10:47.240 --> 1:10:50.040 expect until this changes, I expect them to continue to 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:54.000 have problems recruiting uh black officers to work in the community. 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:57.240 I expect them to have issues where people say, you 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:59.320 know what, I've known more in black officers who have 1:10:59.400 --> 1:11:02.479 retired since this foolishness because they don't even want to 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:05.800 be associated, you know, with with the type of gang 1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:09.840 banging the police officers are doing. I've removed knives from 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:12.800 people's hands. As this obstitute teacher, I get all of that. 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:15.000 I'm not expecting them to do what I do or 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:17.400 care about what I care. What I'm expecting is that 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:19.439 we have policy in place because actually my sign. There's 1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:22.400 policy in place. It says taser first, and you know 1:11:22.640 --> 1:11:25.160 areas of de escalation that it should go up and 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:27.280 up and up and up and up. I don't want 1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:30.559 to for me when I'm commentating it in the comments, 1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:33.519 I don't want to get caught up in the knife 1:11:33.560 --> 1:11:35.400 and you don't have two seconds and he had to 1:11:35.439 --> 1:11:38.920 respond and it was legal. I think those conversations should 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:40.559 be had, and I think you guys and others are 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:43.479 doing excellent job job with that. When I am debating 1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:46.519 on TV especially, and within three minutes, I'm gonna continue 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:48.320 to say, what do we do to make sure five 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:50.439 times people are not kids are like? Because it leaves 1:11:50.720 --> 1:11:53.280 it makes you deal with what it is. Each one 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:55.360 of these cases are different, They're not all the same. 1:11:55.600 --> 1:11:58.600 We'll spend all day adjudicating. How about we direct their 1:11:58.680 --> 1:12:02.439 energy on complete root form, complete dismantle, not abolished, because 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:05.120 we need police officers. My position, you have to have 1:12:05.160 --> 1:12:07.400 police officers, you have to have something in order but 1:12:07.720 --> 1:12:11.240 to dismantle and I and we use this word reimagine, 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.439 I guess because it sounds good, a safer word, but 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:18.400 tear this ship down. But Barzilla said it great. This morning, 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:21.479 tear it down and let's rebuild, and it starts at 1:12:21.520 --> 1:12:26.719 punishment first before well, listen, that's the great test test, 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:30.640 the shot, the straight shot, no chaser. Listen, man, that 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:33.240 she's gonna get. You can't be in her comments talking 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:35.360 crazy because she's gonna give it to you that way 1:12:35.479 --> 1:12:37.840 every time. I just want to say thank you, because 1:12:37.880 --> 1:12:41.720 that's your mentality. Is exactly where I met with it, 1:12:42.120 --> 1:12:44.160 you know, that's the mentality that I have, Like, we 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:47.160 need soldiers, and I think that's where my frustration comes 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:50.120 from that I see so few soldiers, you know, so 1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:52.200 many even people that you will leave. The soldiers that 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:54.760 you will leave are gonna be right beside you, and 1:12:55.160 --> 1:12:59.519 I'm constantly disappointed. But just the advocation and just some 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:01.720 of the men mentalities that some of these brothers have, 1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:04.400 and I think right now that I've really been moved 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:06.519 to it. You know, I had a conversation about the 1:13:06.560 --> 1:13:08.960 Million Man March. You know, I had a conversation with 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:11.760 the brothers. They had a celebration last year, and they 1:13:11.800 --> 1:13:13.280 want us to take it to the next level. And 1:13:13.320 --> 1:13:16.679 I think the Million Kings Marches needs to be next 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:20.679 and where we start really redefining what it is for manhood. 1:13:20.760 --> 1:13:23.719 We redefining with soldiers what we need to be doing 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:26.840 at this moment, because our young brothers are watching some 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:29.640 of these fake ass o g s and people that 1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:32.559 saying they geez and they're following their you know, they're 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:34.599 following what they're doing and they ain't doing it right 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:36.880 or they ain't doing nothing at all, you know what 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:38.679 I'm saying. So I think we have to re gather 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:42.320 our brothers and restructure your mind state, re established where 1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:45.000 we are as kings, what being the king means, what 1:13:45.200 --> 1:13:47.760 being a soldier means, and how much is needed in 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:50.840 these times. So thank you Tesla for having more heart 1:13:50.880 --> 1:13:52.840 than most of the dudes that I talked to. You 1:13:52.880 --> 1:13:54.880 know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, the woman around me is 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:57.200 tougher than the dudes man, and that's what I think 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:01.479 really frustrates me. But my mayby Mama go what harder 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:05.080 than you niggas the fact man, So I just want 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:07.240 to say we love you. Test You know, we could 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:10.400 do this all day, all the time, and you know 1:14:10.439 --> 1:14:12.720 what you bring to this movement. You know the way 1:14:12.720 --> 1:14:15.080 that you're able to take what it is that I 1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:17.920 do and just package it a little better. I love it. 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:20.280 I appreciate it. I love it too. I appreciate it. 1:14:20.280 --> 1:14:21.639 And hey, I just want to say this again because 1:14:21.640 --> 1:14:23.760 I want everybody be clear. My son want to get you, 1:14:23.800 --> 1:14:25.920 want to get you all together a million kings. You 1:14:25.960 --> 1:14:28.000 want to get tesln ted and keep your ass at 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:29.880 the house. Wanna come to me. I'm not I'm not 1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:32.240 Harriet Tubman. I'm honking horn one time. You know, I've 1:14:32.240 --> 1:14:34.639 said this to Meka before to me and said you'll 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:35.960 go back and get him and said, no, I want 1:14:35.960 --> 1:14:37.800 because somebody got to know the bus gonna leave them, 1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:40.479 because if they don't have that threat, we all have 1:14:40.560 --> 1:14:42.840 a role. My FN really wants you all to get 1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:45.120 it together. Tesla telling keep your ass at the house 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:47.599 because somebody gonna get killed. I shot, So just stay 1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:49.760 at the house, do what you do. And just I 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:51.720 just want three hundred to follow me. That's it. Just 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:53.919 three hundreds sold. That's all I need. And in the meantime, 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:56.519 let my sign get a million together and we're gonna 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:58.519 we're gonna let him do that, and let's respect when 1:14:58.560 --> 1:15:00.439 we all do it. Let's keep it moving. There will 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:03.160 be three hundred to come from the one million, so 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:06.280 we get the one million. That's how we do. We 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:10.760 love you, Test, we appreciate you as it's so great 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:13.800 to be and we can't wait to have you back again. 1:15:14.640 --> 1:15:17.040 Go listen to Test in the show Straight Shot No 1:15:17.240 --> 1:15:21.280 Chaser on the Black Effect Network. It's Straight Shots No Chasing. Man, 1:15:22.600 --> 1:15:29.400 push the push the side as you to our sister, 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:33.080 straight Shot No Chaser. You know, Test, I love to 1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:35.800 hear Tests talk their talk. Man. She she breaks it 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:37.840 down so eloqually and then bring it back to the 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:41.320 hood with it. Man. Yeah, like she said, Man, we 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:44.679 definitely need to focus on politics, even though I hate 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:47.800 politics and everything that goes with it. It's politics from 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:50.519 the streets to the suitets. You know, we need policy 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:54.000 to be enforced. That makes it a crime. You know, 1:15:54.120 --> 1:15:56.080 there has to be consequence. It makes it a crime 1:15:56.320 --> 1:15:59.360 for you to walk into our communities and just shoot 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:03.000 four shots. I don't care if they got a nice 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:06.479 nothing you should put. They're supposed to be steps. You know, 1:16:06.560 --> 1:16:09.160 you gotta get a taser, get involved. You might have 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:11.519 to do something else, but we we were trying to 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:15.400 preserve life in our community. We need officers that believe that, 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:18.160 that empathize with us, that see us as human beings 1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:21.599 that come into our communities that want to leave and 1:16:21.640 --> 1:16:24.360 make sure that everybody leaves alive, you know. So that's 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:27.400 what we gotta be intentional about. I read with you mind. 1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:28.920 I mean, you know, there are a lot of people 1:16:28.960 --> 1:16:32.559 who feel differently, and of course we know that. Uh, 1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:34.840 there are many police officers who all they want to 1:16:34.880 --> 1:16:37.120 do is get home and they want to keep everybody safe. 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:41.120 But the ones that don't, they spoil the entire pot. 1:16:41.320 --> 1:16:43.519 And we're not gonna let these folks off the hook. 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:47.879 We're going to, you know, continue to raise our voices. 1:16:48.080 --> 1:16:51.280 And the more that people try to push back and 1:16:51.400 --> 1:16:55.280 justify the killing of Makaia Bryant, it makes me even 1:16:55.360 --> 1:16:57.800 want to determined to stand up for that young sister 1:16:57.880 --> 1:16:59.800 and to speak for her and to say her name. 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:06.040 So before we leave, I would be remissed not to 1:17:06.160 --> 1:17:09.400 mention the young three year old boy who was killed 1:17:09.400 --> 1:17:12.760 in Miami. You know, gunshot, senseless, gun violence. Brothers, we 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:15.400 gotta do a lot better, man. You know, I'm always 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:20.040 gonna hold the system accountable and make sure that they're accountable. 1:17:20.040 --> 1:17:22.320 What I want us to be accountable as well. When 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:24.240 you hear stories like a young boy who was at 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:29.519 his three third birthday party. Gun damn. You know it 1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:31.720 doesn't make sense. You know, we have to do a 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:33.880 lot of better, a lot better in our communities. We 1:17:33.960 --> 1:17:38.000 have to hold ourselves accountable. We gotta have so so 1:17:38.120 --> 1:17:41.160 called old gez that you in the streets and you 1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:45.240 in that lifestyle to to have some level of consequences 1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:47.880 for things like that. You gotta have real conversations with 1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:50.519 these young brothers. You know the fact that you just 1:17:50.560 --> 1:17:53.200 senselessly shooting and you ain't even hitting the person that 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:56.559 you supposedly call out. You know, I don't understand. How 1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:59.479 do you keep shooting woman in babies? You know, it 1:17:59.560 --> 1:18:02.400 just does makes sense. So maybe you should just stop shooting. 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:05.040 How About since you can't hit the target you hit 1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:07.479 and you shouldn't be shooting at that target, maybe you 1:18:07.479 --> 1:18:09.840 should just stop shooting all together. Maybe we gotta find 1:18:09.880 --> 1:18:11.960 different ways. Maybe you could need to go out to 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:14.160 shoot five man. They used to give you a fade, 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:17.000 you getting to be for a brother, used to knuckle up, 1:18:17.280 --> 1:18:19.519 and everybody went home afterwards, and you shook hands, and 1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:22.280 if you didn't feel well, you for them again. Everybody 1:18:22.320 --> 1:18:24.679 went home with their life. So man, brothers so once 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:26.519 again I want to say right P to the young 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:30.559 king a largea France three year old shot in Miami 1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:33.519 at his birthday party. Man, we gotta do better. We 1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:36.280 gotta protect our young babies, and we gotta protect our women. 1:18:36.320 --> 1:18:40.120 We gotta protect us. We gotta do better, kings. Mm hmm. 1:18:40.960 --> 1:18:43.360 So once again that brings us to the end of 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:46.960 another show. This show was really heavy this whole week. 1:18:47.520 --> 1:18:49.640 The last couple of weeks have been heavy. Man r 1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:52.839 I P Dante, Right r I P d M Mix, 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:58.680 r I P Black Rob, r I Pologla France r I, 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:02.200 Pete Mkia Brian. And to all of you or anyone 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:06.760 who is suffering from addiction, reach out to somebody. A 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:08.680 lot of places that you can reach out to to 1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:12.320 get help. Don't hold it in, don't suffer. It's a 1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:16.719 really serious thing, and we noticed that. So once again, 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:20.559 I'm not gonna always be right to Mek is not 1:19:20.600 --> 1:19:24.400 gonna always be wrong, but we will both always be 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:27.320 or then yeah,