Speaker 1: What's up. Family, I'm your girl to make a d
Speaker 1: mallory and it's your boy, and we are your hosts
Speaker 1: of street politicians the place. So we're working from home today.
Speaker 1: It's been a long, long, long, long weakened some change.
Speaker 1: I feel like, first of all, we were on the
Speaker 1: road and then we came back and it's been funerals
Speaker 1: and verdicts and a lot of trauma, more black death unfortunately. Um.
Speaker 1: And we decided to stay home today and try to
Speaker 1: just um, you know, work for my personal spaces. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you like I don't you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I feel heavy, very heavy. But also I love how
Speaker 1: Black people lay our people to rest. No one does
Speaker 1: it the way we do it, like it's a family reunion,
Speaker 1: uh party, a church service. Uh you know. For DMX,
Speaker 1: I feel like I went to the mosque, the church
Speaker 1: and the club. It just so many things happened, um,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever we have services for our own I
Speaker 1: think it was very similar with Dante Rights service. It
Speaker 1: was beautiful, um. And I love the fact that they
Speaker 1: used the music, especially when the procession first came in
Speaker 1: to sing freedom songs. You know, before I'll be a slave,
Speaker 1: I'll be buried in my grave and go home to
Speaker 1: my Lord and be free. Like usually, you know, you'll
Speaker 1: hear maybe amazing grace or something else that's a spiritual
Speaker 1: just you know, um sorts like a Christian song or
Speaker 1: a gospel song. But but they chose to use Negro
Speaker 1: spirituals to set the tone for how the service started.
Speaker 1: And I was just I was, you know, I felt
Speaker 1: good about it. So it's heavy because we know that
Speaker 1: all of these deaths and all the services and even
Speaker 1: the verdict, while positive, yet still in the context of
Speaker 1: so much trauma. You know, um, but nobody I believe
Speaker 1: steps up to the constant Again. I can't find another
Speaker 1: word to use outside of trauma like we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a long week, you know.
Speaker 1: We we laid to rest one of our icons, which
Speaker 1: was was was one of my mentors, um and it
Speaker 1: was it was hard, you know. And then we went
Speaker 1: to the funeral for Dante, right which which was also
Speaker 1: a beautiful funeral, but it's just hard seeing such a
Speaker 1: young man, you know, twenty years old, that that's just
Speaker 1: not gonna be anymore, you know. It. It was so
Speaker 1: many different things, and then you know, the Derek children verdict,
Speaker 1: which you know what, where we believed the correct the
Speaker 1: correct verdict was definitely given in that case. So there
Speaker 1: was not really not really to celebrate because you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't you wish that you don't have
Speaker 1: to celebrate that someone's going to jail or that we
Speaker 1: actually received You don't want to celebrate those things. But
Speaker 1: unfortunately America has given us so many down parts. We've
Speaker 1: seen you know, justice not be served for us so
Speaker 1: many times that we actually have to celebrate situations like this,
Speaker 1: you know, so we we It just was like a
Speaker 1: constant roller coaster, man. But you know, I do say
Speaker 1: the d N Mexicans funeral was a beautiful It was long,
Speaker 1: both of them was long. But you know, when you
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the icon, you're talking about the
Speaker 1: legend and somebody who touched so many people in so
Speaker 1: many different ways, you know, it definitely it takes time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of one of the things was that that stood
Speaker 1: out for me was, you know, Swiss said something that
Speaker 1: was really important about how we need to love when
Speaker 1: you know, how X needed that love while he was alive,
Speaker 1: you know, and he wished that people had given it
Speaker 1: to him, and he spoke candid about that. You know.
Speaker 1: Another one of the highlights was um hearing to share
Speaker 1: him his ex wife, who I know very well, Man,
Speaker 1: Just hearing her come from her place of honesty and
Speaker 1: talk about their ups and downs, but just how much
Speaker 1: she loved and they connected, you know. And then having
Speaker 1: a moment just embracing his new fiance and bringing their
Speaker 1: children together. I think there was that was a lesson
Speaker 1: in class. She's always been a class actor. Shere has
Speaker 1: always been such a classy, beautiful woman. Man. Since I've
Speaker 1: known her, She's always been classy. But she just took
Speaker 1: it to the next level, you know, because people want
Speaker 1: to see drama, you know, people wanted to say, oh,
Speaker 1: something was wrong, but she she handled that so beautifully. Man.
Speaker 1: And to see all of his children, fifteen children in
Speaker 1: one space at one time, you know, it was it
Speaker 1: was just a blessing. You know, x X will not
Speaker 1: be forgotten. He he will live on, not just only
Speaker 1: through his music, but through the seeds that he planted here. Man.
Speaker 1: So it was just so many different things that went on, man,
Speaker 1: and I just you're right. We had to stay home
Speaker 1: and is rest as soon as we finished doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna only back down because my body is just
Speaker 1: dream body weird. My body weird. Yeah, no, I think
Speaker 1: that to share us example of womanhood and grace that
Speaker 1: she showed yesterday, I also loved to share us so much.
Speaker 1: She's a beautiful sister. From the first time we met,
Speaker 1: um at an event that I think Yandy uh did
Speaker 1: some years ago, we just connected, you know, and just
Speaker 1: became sisters. It didn't take several occurrences. We just connected,
Speaker 1: and you know, she would send She sends me messages
Speaker 1: telling me she's praying for me and I the same. Um.
Speaker 1: She's such a woman of God, And I think what
Speaker 1: people have to understand is that that doesn't just happen overnight,
Speaker 1: like that's not you know, she she's been through a lot.
Speaker 1: She's been through a serious journe me and she's in
Speaker 1: the process of writing a book right now where she's
Speaker 1: telling her story, which can definitely help somebody else because
Speaker 1: all of us have different situations and things that we've
Speaker 1: been through, and you know, we suffer with those things.
Speaker 1: We suffer with um, you know, not so much hiding,
Speaker 1: but the veil of the pain and not being able
Speaker 1: to really express it. Just seeing how strong she was
Speaker 1: when she walked up on that stage, um, and even
Speaker 1: had to say a prayer for herself to get through it.
Speaker 1: To do what she knows that DMX would want her
Speaker 1: to do was so powerful. You know, I appreciate one well.
Speaker 1: First of all, I wrote her and said that the
Speaker 1: world needed to see what she did at that service, right,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, speaking about the truth, you know, the trauma,
Speaker 1: what they experienced together as a cup for I think
Speaker 1: she said for thirty nine years or something like that.
Speaker 1: But then also the embracing of his fiancee. Um, she
Speaker 1: set an example of what womanhood should look like, you know,
Speaker 1: and and just humanity should look like. She wasn't with
Speaker 1: X anymore, you know what I'm saying. So to try
Speaker 1: to use her power in the room, because clearly she
Speaker 1: had power. She had she she possessed real power and
Speaker 1: presence because everybody knows her, you know, everybody feels like
Speaker 1: they grew up with dm X and two shar her
Speaker 1: and to share he was his wife, she has I
Speaker 1: think four of his children. Um, she's she's special, you know,
Speaker 1: and and everybody knows that. And she could have held
Speaker 1: that and used it as a way to snub the
Speaker 1: rest of the children's mothers, but she didn't. She made
Speaker 1: sure to use her presence in the room to empower
Speaker 1: another woman that she knows DMX love and had a
Speaker 1: child with it and was planning to marry. So I,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought that that was probably one of
Speaker 1: the most significant moments of the entire weekend. And we
Speaker 1: all waited for her to speak, because the day before
Speaker 1: she didn't speak. She didn't even go on the stage
Speaker 1: at the public service, which, by the way, Kanye West
Speaker 1: and his choir. You know, I am often critical of Kanye,
Speaker 1: um and and we should be because some of the
Speaker 1: things that Kanye has done and said, I think you're
Speaker 1: very harmful. Um And it's actually been very painful as
Speaker 1: a Kanye fan. But I can tell you that that
Speaker 1: choir and the way in which they they present their
Speaker 1: gospel tributes, they are truly it's powerful. It's powerful. It
Speaker 1: was like soul reaching, you know. Um. And so that's
Speaker 1: one thing that brother can do well. But to get
Speaker 1: back to to Sharon, you know, UM, you know, I
Speaker 1: just say this really quickly. It takes a lot for
Speaker 1: a woman who has been who has been traumatized by
Speaker 1: the public life, you know, and DMX being a ladies man. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know you can tell that about the fact that
Speaker 1: he has thirteen children. Well some people say seventeen, but
Speaker 1: I know it's fifteen. Listen, he knocked, he was knocking
Speaker 1: on twenty about that, right, and you can only imagine
Speaker 1: what they went through, you know, over the years. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: But but he was a prophet. But the way that
Speaker 1: she did what she did yesterday, it just what it
Speaker 1: did for me, mice is it? It made me re
Speaker 1: evaluate my own approach to life because I think healing
Speaker 1: is probably the first step towards being in the space
Speaker 1: that she's in. That you know that she's been through
Speaker 1: a healing process. So shout out to to Shara Simmons,
Speaker 1: we love you, says. If you see this wherever you are,
Speaker 1: just know that you gave us a lot of power yesterday.
Speaker 1: So there's a cat. Yes, my cat was just my
Speaker 1: mother's cat. Rather just came from nowhere. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Very very interesting, but yeah, shut up to sha a
Speaker 1: man like like I said, she's always been a class
Speaker 1: that It was just so many different moments, man, just
Speaker 1: seeing the rough riders on stage, seeing their children on
Speaker 1: stage talk so well they did they all spoke, well,
Speaker 1: the minister gave a beautiful so his what he usually does,
Speaker 1: um and then then there was just this one point
Speaker 1: though there are some brother you know, decided that he
Speaker 1: wanted to utilize the space for his own and now
Speaker 1: here's always gonna be something like we ain't gonna never
Speaker 1: just have a smooth all the way. It was a
Speaker 1: long time, like I wasn't mad. I was there five
Speaker 1: hours because it was Ex. I was him people, you know,
Speaker 1: I was getting this energy. But one brother thought that
Speaker 1: he was not recognized for his contributions to ask, you know,
Speaker 1: and that he didn't have the amount of time to
Speaker 1: speak or nobody told him to speak, and he decided
Speaker 1: he was gonna have He said, I'm gonna have me
Speaker 1: a sugar night moment at the at the Grammys or something.
Speaker 1: And he went up there and he just started telling
Speaker 1: what he did, you know, throughout Ex's last couple of years,
Speaker 1: and how the album that he just released wouldn't be
Speaker 1: done with all and and I get it. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people think they should have spoke. A
Speaker 1: lot of people say, you know, why you didn't speak.
Speaker 1: My people asking that why I didn't, you know, I
Speaker 1: get it you wanted. This was somebody that you loved
Speaker 1: or care for. This probably was one of your close friends,
Speaker 1: and you didn't feel that you had a voice. I
Speaker 1: just thought that was not the time to express that
Speaker 1: and the way that you did. And then he got
Speaker 1: up there. He wasn't talking about X. You know, if
Speaker 1: he would have went up there and say, your exted
Speaker 1: this for me and X was this type of person
Speaker 1: and exited this, people might have been more receptive to it.
Speaker 1: When he got up there and started explaining what he did.
Speaker 1: You know, I was the one that did this for
Speaker 1: EX and I did this and me and X was
Speaker 1: like this and I was doing this, and I just
Speaker 1: was like, you know it just there's always one moment,
Speaker 1: you know that they're gonna be able to see where
Speaker 1: when we quote unprogressive niggership going on. You know what
Speaker 1: I thought, um, I recognize his frustration based upon the
Speaker 1: fact that even in my own life and in yours
Speaker 1: as well, there are people who feel like they were
Speaker 1: there before the fame right and even though D and
Speaker 1: Y and the whole rough Rider's family they came from
Speaker 1: nothing and made something right to share or all these folks,
Speaker 1: a lot of people who spoke were folks who who
Speaker 1: started with damp with with Earl, and he became the
Speaker 1: dark man, you know DMX, Right, So this guy seemed
Speaker 1: he kept saying that he was in the group home
Speaker 1: with him. So he's talking about a time that is
Speaker 1: before anybody even meeting and recognizing the talent that DMX had,
Speaker 1: and I think he felt probably that that needed to
Speaker 1: be expressed. Everybody's speech included a lot of their own
Speaker 1: experience or how they felt or what DMX did for them. Um,
Speaker 1: but this guy, he was out of line, for sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: But sometimes we have to find the one person who
Speaker 1: can tell a story that most other people can't tell
Speaker 1: and allow them to say it so that you can
Speaker 1: just you know, make sure you cover all the basis right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to do that. And I guess
Speaker 1: in my it just being a leader and an organizer,
Speaker 1: I've learned that when you go into a particular city
Speaker 1: or you know, if you're working in certain spaces, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have the person that's like, now, y'all ain't gonna
Speaker 1: just come here, you know, and the best thing to
Speaker 1: do is to give them a voice so that you
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with them trying to do with
Speaker 1: this guy did yesterday, although again what he did wasn't right.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it is, and I'm saying that
Speaker 1: two things can exist at the same time. He could
Speaker 1: be wrong, and there probably should have been a space
Speaker 1: for somebody who could say I grew up with him
Speaker 1: in the group home, because nobody else had that story.
Speaker 1: Everybody else's story begins at the point that he's recognized
Speaker 1: as a great talent but with nothing, and they all
Speaker 1: helped to come together and build what we now know.
Speaker 1: But he's telling the story that before there was any
Speaker 1: of this, I was, you know, I was with him,
Speaker 1: and then he seems like he was probably somebody that
Speaker 1: was there to you know, he was a part of
Speaker 1: a part of a time in in in DM Mex's
Speaker 1: life that probably wasn't that good, so that he just
Speaker 1: wanted to tell his story. Really, I mean, I don't mind,
Speaker 1: because they're friends that I've had before done anything right.
Speaker 1: There will probably be able to tell stories of our
Speaker 1: of our relationships and things like that from third and
Speaker 1: fourth grade, and and and and those are relevant things
Speaker 1: that people might want to hear. I just think that
Speaker 1: his his whole premise didn't even reflect d m X
Speaker 1: to me. You know, he said, I was in there
Speaker 1: with d m X and I did this and it
Speaker 1: wasn't for me. The last two years of his life,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have made this album. You know. Me we
Speaker 1: I was like, you didn't come there to celebrate him.
Speaker 1: You didn't say, yo X did this for me and
Speaker 1: and you know we were together doing this and he
Speaker 1: helped me do this. So he didn't come to share
Speaker 1: and reflect on the positive and celebrate that. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: he almost got beat up. Man. I had to stop
Speaker 1: a lot of boys. Boys like what do he said,
Speaker 1: I'm like, chill, relaxed. You know, it wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: a church. I don't know if he had made it
Speaker 1: up out of there, man, but God bless him. The pastor,
Speaker 1: Albern said, set a prayer phone. You know, he understood
Speaker 1: that we all we're all dealing with things. I just
Speaker 1: thought that that, you know, that just wasn't the right
Speaker 1: time for that. But other than that, man, everything was beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know, just just seeing people that haven't seen in
Speaker 1: a long time. Unfortunately, you see a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that you haven't seen in years at funerals, you know,
Speaker 1: and it just made me reflect, just think, you know,
Speaker 1: just be grateful because we're not promised tomorrow. To make
Speaker 1: you realize that, you know, you have to be aware.
Speaker 1: You have to tell people you love them. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta embrace. Like you said, we gotta
Speaker 1: give flowers while people are living, and we also just
Speaker 1: gotta live in fullness, try to live in fullness daily
Speaker 1: and just thinking about all that was said at the services,
Speaker 1: one of the things that came to me was this
Speaker 1: whole idea of what you know, what people were saying
Speaker 1: and on social media, like after DMX past, people were like,
Speaker 1: why did anyone help him? Why did anyone help him?
Speaker 1: The same conversation comes up around Black Rob, who I
Speaker 1: don't think enough attention is being given to the fact
Speaker 1: that he also passed away. I mean, obviously DMX is
Speaker 1: larger than life, so you know, he's gonna suck up
Speaker 1: the energy. But I do think that the focus should
Speaker 1: shift immediately to Black Raw because I noticed that so
Speaker 1: many of of you, all, you know, young artists and
Speaker 1: just people in general love and appreciate him, and we
Speaker 1: watch the end of his life be really painful. You know,
Speaker 1: the funeral is actually on Friday. I just received information
Speaker 1: that his funeral will be on Frinday, yea, so hopefully
Speaker 1: we have a real strong build up to that as well,
Speaker 1: and that people show up. I think what Swiss was
Speaker 1: saying was different from the point that I want to
Speaker 1: make Swiss he was. He was basically saying, you know, people,
Speaker 1: we talked about vultures, folks showing up when someone dies,
Speaker 1: everybody grabbing for what they believe is theirs. And he
Speaker 1: said that, you know, people need to be there to
Speaker 1: support when a person is alive. So I get that,
Speaker 1: but there is this specific narrative around folks asking why
Speaker 1: didn't people help X to deal with his drug addiction,
Speaker 1: Like why didn't people get more involved? Right? And my
Speaker 1: thought of the day is sometimes people are not ready
Speaker 1: for help, right, They're not ready for help. And the
Speaker 1: idea that we think that because we didn't hear it
Speaker 1: out in the world, that folks weren't trying to help
Speaker 1: and that they weren't having these conversations with him is
Speaker 1: to me, it's it's kind of disingenuous, or it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's presumptuous, right, And and I think wrongly so
Speaker 1: because I'm sure that people around him did try to
Speaker 1: help him and to talk to him. But when you've grown,
Speaker 1: if you want to get how I if you want
Speaker 1: to lie, cheat, steal, do whatever, you will find a
Speaker 1: way to do that. And I just think about even
Speaker 1: in my own life dealing with addiction, people talk to me,
Speaker 1: you know, and and it was a small group of
Speaker 1: people who knew about what was going on. But also
Speaker 1: it didn't even meet those people didn't have to beat
Speaker 1: me up. I know from seeing as a child growing
Speaker 1: up what addiction can do to you. So I knew myself,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't until I was ready to deal with
Speaker 1: it right that I actually made a change. So I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, do we need to what do
Speaker 1: we do? Do we knock somebody over the head and
Speaker 1: tie them down without you know, without their consent, because
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's illegal, or how do you
Speaker 1: help people who are not ready? I think it's a process.
Speaker 1: I think when we look at the situation, and we
Speaker 1: talked about specifically d n Mix, he was very complex.
Speaker 1: He it is a very complex individual. I think you
Speaker 1: look at he had mental health issues, he was he
Speaker 1: had addiction from a very young age, you know, an
Speaker 1: age of fourteen, somebody pretty much introduced him to drugs,
Speaker 1: who slipped him drugs. You know, then he had dealing
Speaker 1: with just his own personal things that none of us
Speaker 1: even know about. You know. So when you think about that,
Speaker 1: it's it's going to take longer because when you do
Speaker 1: something for so long, it becomes who you are, you
Speaker 1: know it. It ain't like it was just something that, oh,
Speaker 1: it happened to him, so we have to change it
Speaker 1: his his It became a part of him. So his
Speaker 1: change in process was way different. And I know if
Speaker 1: you just just talking about d and Y, just talking
Speaker 1: about Swiss's talking about two shared or just talking about
Speaker 1: even when his pastor was talking about you know, the
Speaker 1: interaction that she had and how she talked to him
Speaker 1: and how they embraced it's each other. You know, he
Speaker 1: had people that loved him, He had people that wanted
Speaker 1: to help. You know, I don't know necessarily know whether
Speaker 1: or not he didn't want to receive the help, he
Speaker 1: didn't know how to go, or you know, it was
Speaker 1: it wasn't time for him, or you know, sometimes all
Speaker 1: the time you have to be prepared to receive help.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that want to give you help,
Speaker 1: but you have to actually be prepared, especially as an addict.
Speaker 1: You have to say, you have to make up your
Speaker 1: mind that you don't want to do it no more.
Speaker 1: Nobody can make up your mind. Went through that for
Speaker 1: years with my mother and going through situations and and
Speaker 1: crying and doing everything and doing everything. And the day
Speaker 1: that she decided, she said, she woke up with then
Speaker 1: and said, I just don't want to do this no more.
Speaker 1: And that's when she, you know, she decided that she
Speaker 1: was gonna move forward. For twenty plus years she hasn't.
Speaker 1: She's been free, so, you know, drug free. So it's
Speaker 1: a process, you know. So like you said that people
Speaker 1: have to be ready to receive the help, They have
Speaker 1: to make up their mind that they want to receive
Speaker 1: the help. We should always try, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if DMX. This situation is the situation
Speaker 1: that we took about where people don't don't try to
Speaker 1: help people. There are situations where there are times we
Speaker 1: see people going down certain roads and nobody does interfere.
Speaker 1: Some people just and you know, they empowered, they you know,
Speaker 1: they make somebody feel comfortable in this indocutive and they
Speaker 1: don't stop them. So we have to talk about those two.
Speaker 1: But I think in this situation is just a little different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, and I wasn't that
Speaker 1: close to the situation, but knowing to share, knowing Swiss
Speaker 1: and Alicia, right, and and the relationships of all these individuals,
Speaker 1: and just hearing why and D and and even you
Speaker 1: talking about stories of things that happened in the past,
Speaker 1: you know, D and his real trouble and fight to
Speaker 1: try to save DMX and to make sure that he
Speaker 1: was good. I think there were people there to help.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's always going to be in neighborhoods. We
Speaker 1: know that that that that's always going to be the case.
Speaker 1: But I think when we lean on enablers who are
Speaker 1: also traumatized, also got they have issues. They were never
Speaker 1: really your friends in the first place, and even if
Speaker 1: they are, they have their weak um. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have the strength that it takes
Speaker 1: to go up against somebody who was also strong, so
Speaker 1: they just kind of fall into place and and and
Speaker 1: that's how they deal with all everything in their lives.
Speaker 1: But there are people who were there to help, and
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of that story in the Bible,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's a tale that people give. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's in the Bible or not. But when
Speaker 1: they talk about Jesus sending the boat, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and I think it's I think it is kind
Speaker 1: of like an old folks tale. But they say, uh,
Speaker 1: old wives tell. But they say, you know, he sent
Speaker 1: multiple modes of transportation, if you will, to get the
Speaker 1: people out of the wilderness. And they're like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: still waiting for the Lord to show up. Well, he
Speaker 1: already showed old up in so many different ways. And
Speaker 1: I think that we spent so much time trying to
Speaker 1: chastise people and trying to find the one who didn't
Speaker 1: do instead of focusing on the the many who did.
Speaker 1: And and in my in my situation, you know, I
Speaker 1: could say that no, nothing that anyone said, you know,
Speaker 1: there were conversations that I had with each person who knew,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing that any one person said that was
Speaker 1: more powerful than what I was saying to myself. Then
Speaker 1: when I started talking to myself, that's when the real
Speaker 1: power came. That's when the real shift came. When I
Speaker 1: said to Mika, you have to go, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to get yourself clean. You know, today there is
Speaker 1: a memory of a time one hundred article where Um,
Speaker 1: Bob Land Lindus are sore carmon President I are in
Speaker 1: the magazine and it's a store read that was done
Speaker 1: on us because we led the women's marshes was four
Speaker 1: years later, Um, and you know that was that was
Speaker 1: the time in my life, the first time in my
Speaker 1: life that I became addicted to prescription medication because of
Speaker 1: the stress that I went through during the Women's March,
Speaker 1: just trying to get some sleep, just trying to calm
Speaker 1: myself down from the tension and anxiety. It's no joke
Speaker 1: to be in a situation where you are the leading
Speaker 1: black woman in an environment where you're dealing with the
Speaker 1: white supremacists who just became president. Still dealing with the
Speaker 1: issues happening in our communities that we deal with every
Speaker 1: single day. People still getting shot and killed, still supporting families,
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with white women who who who many
Speaker 1: of them were not in the movement, and even some
Speaker 1: of them who think they were in the movement was
Speaker 1: still abusive. Um. You know, dealing with the trauma and
Speaker 1: challenges of my personal life, with my own kid like
Speaker 1: it was a lot. It was a lot happening. And
Speaker 1: I know that with through the addiction that I suffered,
Speaker 1: there was nothing that anybody could say. Y'all all said things.
Speaker 1: Those people who knew, who were a part of the
Speaker 1: small circle, said things like you gotta get it together,
Speaker 1: will help you. It was I. It was me that
Speaker 1: picked up the phone and called the friend and said,
Speaker 1: could you please help me get into a program. And
Speaker 1: then of course my my other friends, you know, Rachel
Speaker 1: North Lincoln, others supported me through that process. But nobody
Speaker 1: could take could take me anywhere on my own, you know,
Speaker 1: against my will. There was nobody that could do that.
Speaker 1: It's something that I had to be ready to do
Speaker 1: for myself. And I understand because I suffer with addiction.
Speaker 1: I'm not addicted today, Thank God, I've been cleaned for
Speaker 1: two years and I'm so you know, grateful that God
Speaker 1: saved my life. But I still have to always claim
Speaker 1: that because they tell when you're going through the process,
Speaker 1: if you don't understand addiction and how quick it can
Speaker 1: grab you back, and you think that you're just living free,
Speaker 1: and then you don't have to do the work on
Speaker 1: a regular basis. You can find yourself relaxing. And so
Speaker 1: I understand because when stress comes on me, even today,
Speaker 1: like when I'm when I'm dealing with stress and I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with UM, and I feel the tension because of
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm strong willed, and I know that
Speaker 1: the experience that I had with addiction UM was something
Speaker 1: that you know, it was a one hit wonder. It's
Speaker 1: never gonna happen to me again. There's nothing, there's nothing
Speaker 1: that anybody could give me or any feeling that's so
Speaker 1: good that I'm gonna find myself going out and getting
Speaker 1: addicted again or relaxing. But I understand how when you
Speaker 1: going through so much of you back in the public eye.
Speaker 1: And look, the last thing I say on this is
Speaker 1: that I was removed. I removed myself. I literally resigned
Speaker 1: from an organization that I started that nobody could put
Speaker 1: me out of. My name was on all the bank
Speaker 1: accounts I was, my name was on the incorporation documents,
Speaker 1: and you couldn't put me out the Women's March. But
Speaker 1: I chose to leave for my own mental health and
Speaker 1: to be able to focus on the communities that I
Speaker 1: know need need and and and my skill set the most.
Speaker 1: So I removed myself. But DMX was never able to
Speaker 1: remove himself from all the stuff that he was dealing with.
Speaker 1: He was it was his life every day, dealing with
Speaker 1: the ups and downs of the industry, to stressed the family,
Speaker 1: to all of it, the trauma that he faced as
Speaker 1: a child. That stuff he was never able to remove,
Speaker 1: remove himself from. And so I think we all can
Speaker 1: learn so much from his story. We can learn so
Speaker 1: much from um. You know, the way in which people
Speaker 1: loved him and the way in which they they as
Speaker 1: his family and friends, have sent him away. UM, And
Speaker 1: hopefully his life and and the way that it ended
Speaker 1: so abruptly will save somebody else who's watching with all
Speaker 1: the same traumas, and people who look you look at
Speaker 1: every day because with the Minnisterfericans say a lot of
Speaker 1: people in public day one thing, but they're not really
Speaker 1: that behind the scenes. And I took that to mean
Speaker 1: a lot of things. But one of the things in
Speaker 1: the context of dmx is life, is that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people out here suffering with addiction. Because I
Speaker 1: never looked like I was suffering, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people out here that's going through
Speaker 1: a lot of things behind the wall, but their Instagram
Speaker 1: page is popped, so that brings us to our streets
Speaker 1: talking segment. Streets is always talking, and today they are
Speaker 1: talking about these governors who are putting together policy that
Speaker 1: makes it okay for people who are driving to actually
Speaker 1: run over protesters. Now, this is crazy to me, like
Speaker 1: just to to mentally fathomless when we think about what
Speaker 1: happened in Charlottesville. They want they want that to be legal.
Speaker 1: They're they're legalizing that. There's giving people the legal right
Speaker 1: to run down protesters without having any legal recause. But
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how somebody thinks that makes sense,
Speaker 1: Like we're really just saying, hey, you can just kill
Speaker 1: somebody because they're protested. They protested and there in a way,
Speaker 1: go on and kill it. You know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't even understand who comes up with this ship I
Speaker 1: was I was looking for the young lady's name, just
Speaker 1: so that we make sure we call her name. I
Speaker 1: forgot again. I had to hire um. And it's not
Speaker 1: just mowing down protesters. That's one part of legislation that's
Speaker 1: being passed across the country that pretty much makes it
Speaker 1: illegal to protests in some ways, or at least that
Speaker 1: even the general public can take their own liberties with
Speaker 1: how they want to deal with protests. To your point,
Speaker 1: that was very good that you brought up had a
Speaker 1: higher that these things could actually be legal. And what
Speaker 1: I think people need to understand, Mice is that there
Speaker 1: is a backlash every single time we had even the
Speaker 1: slightest bit of progress. Now I know people will say, well,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not progress for our communities because still
Speaker 1: to date we are waiting to see what the Biden
Speaker 1: administration is going to do specifically on policing um as
Speaker 1: you know, as as it relates to the black community.
Speaker 1: So I agree we all on the same page about that.
Speaker 1: We believe that the George Floyd Justice and Police and
Speaker 1: Act has to pass, It needs to be signed immediately,
Speaker 1: and there needs to be more dumb even following that
Speaker 1: particular legislative. I on that package. But we have to
Speaker 1: put ourselves in the mindset of white supremacy, because when
Speaker 1: you think about white supremacists and how they operate in
Speaker 1: their mind we have gotten some form of progress done
Speaker 1: right in their minds, so we may we understand that
Speaker 1: they're still mass, mass complications with any white man in
Speaker 1: the office, and other people of color too. We know
Speaker 1: that as a president, but they see it as we've
Speaker 1: actually accomplished the goal because we came together as communities
Speaker 1: of color, and particularly black people and black women came
Speaker 1: together and and ousted their dude. So they are in
Speaker 1: backlash mode. And they're smart because they realized we might
Speaker 1: not have the White House, but we have states by
Speaker 1: having governors, senators and otherwise who can actually come together
Speaker 1: and draw up let inslation and then past bills. Right,
Speaker 1: especially when I gotta say it, some of the Democrats
Speaker 1: they sleep on the job, right, They're sleep on the job.
Speaker 1: There's no mass movement that's happening on the streets of
Speaker 1: these different states. Right. Two combat this this Why are
Speaker 1: we not getting calls from elected officials in these states saying, yo,
Speaker 1: organized mass protests hit the ground. We need to be
Speaker 1: on the ground that that that's not happening enough. It
Speaker 1: did happen in Georgia, but it's not happening enough. These
Speaker 1: bills are getting signed and we're hearing about it on
Speaker 1: TV as the pen is going to the paper. There
Speaker 1: has to be a better organizing strategy. It definitely has
Speaker 1: to be a better organizing strategy. You know. Um, I
Speaker 1: was watching The Breakfast Club the other day and Dr
Speaker 1: Lumara Johnson said something that was you know that that
Speaker 1: was kind of profound. You know. He said, Joe Biden
Speaker 1: has this anti Asian you know, um what what is it?
Speaker 1: The anti discrimination law for the Asians. It was the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen Anti Violence like Act or something violence and
Speaker 1: I and I agree with it. He also said that
Speaker 1: there have been two hundred laws that they introduced about
Speaker 1: anti lynching which affect with black people that have never
Speaker 1: been brought into law, you know. And I think when
Speaker 1: you think about that, that that makes you think like wow, answer,
Speaker 1: you would think it's common sense. Hey, you just can't
Speaker 1: lench people. You know, re lynching is directly attached to
Speaker 1: black people. You know, this is something This was an
Speaker 1: m matil law that they wanted to pass. And so
Speaker 1: when you look at that and say two hundred times
Speaker 1: nobody saw that, you know, it made sense to say
Speaker 1: that lynching is illegal. You know that that's something that
Speaker 1: that directly, you know, correlates to the pain and trauma
Speaker 1: of black people is illegal. Naming it after someone who
Speaker 1: was was was killed for nothing that we know was
Speaker 1: pretty much killed that that history records, the person who
Speaker 1: lied on them admitted that they lied on them, was
Speaker 1: killed for nothing. And we can't haven't got this bill passed.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we have to be very very
Speaker 1: alarm at stuff like this. You know, it's alarming because,
Speaker 1: like most of us, we were hoping that this administration
Speaker 1: does more for us. You know that we're hoping that
Speaker 1: it changes a lot. But we, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: always gonna be critical and we're gonna hold you too,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna push the line every time, you know.
Speaker 1: So when we see disparities like this, and we see
Speaker 1: situations like this and understanding what it actually says, we
Speaker 1: can't I'm not me personally, I just can't ignore that.
Speaker 1: I can't sit back and say, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. No, it's not right. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no way that we just we should not have
Speaker 1: an anti legon law. There are other things that that
Speaker 1: people are saying Biden should be doing this. He's only
Speaker 1: been in a hundred days. Okay, I'm give you a
Speaker 1: little more time with certain things like this. These are
Speaker 1: things that should be advocated for right now. These are
Speaker 1: things that you know, these these laws that they write
Speaker 1: in executive orders could be given right now. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no need for us to wait about the anti
Speaker 1: Lynchon bill. Yeah, No, I think there's a lot more
Speaker 1: that can be done. And certainly, um, you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to be hitting the streets very soon to to
Speaker 1: challenge Joe Manchin, who is the Senator from West Virginia
Speaker 1: that has really been standing in the way of progress.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're not stopping. So we always knew
Speaker 1: we were gonna have to fight. We didn't think that
Speaker 1: Joe Ian was gonna get in office in the world
Speaker 1: would change. We always knew we would have to fight,
Speaker 1: and we're prepared to do that now. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's sort of where I stand on it. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that what we're seeing is not as surprising
Speaker 1: as some would think they have to change. Nothing has changed.
Speaker 1: The only thing that we can do is go as
Speaker 1: hard um in terms of the organization that it took
Speaker 1: to get a president and price president elected, that same
Speaker 1: energy is needed in order for us to make sure
Speaker 1: that we're pushing policy as well. Now, to be clear,
Speaker 1: A T L you as well as the INN Double
Speaker 1: a CP Legal Defense Fund, and people need to know
Speaker 1: it is two totally different things. There's the INN Double
Speaker 1: a CP organization who has so many people in it
Speaker 1: that I love and and work with UM. But there
Speaker 1: is the INN Double a CP Legal Defense Fund, which
Speaker 1: is a completely separate organization. They were established at a
Speaker 1: time when all the leaders were working together, so of
Speaker 1: course you know the names are are closely aligned UM.
Speaker 1: And then there's history there that people should go read
Speaker 1: up on. But today, as we are sitting here, these
Speaker 1: are two separate organizations. They don't have the same board,
Speaker 1: they don't have the same president. One is led by
Speaker 1: Sherylyn Eiffel, who is a black woman, UM and and
Speaker 1: then the other is led by Derek Johnson, who's a
Speaker 1: black man. Two separate organizations, but a c l U
Speaker 1: N double a CP Legal Defense Fund and many others.
Speaker 1: And I think also the N double a CP. Don't
Speaker 1: quote me, but I believe so. They are suing some
Speaker 1: of these states for the laws UM that they are passing,
Speaker 1: that they're signing into law. They are they are suing them.
Speaker 1: There are actual lawsuits out there, and those organizations matter
Speaker 1: as well. There's so many layers to what has to
Speaker 1: be done to to fight back and to push back
Speaker 1: against white supremacy. Uh, you know that we we don't
Speaker 1: have enough people doing the work. So that's the deal.
Speaker 1: We need to keep our eyes on these different states
Speaker 1: and you need to figure out who is your governor
Speaker 1: and what type of policy are they looking at. What's
Speaker 1: the conversations. It's not hard to find because they organized,
Speaker 1: they have rallies, they have conversations. It might be zoomed down,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless, if you go to their websites and you
Speaker 1: read up, you can see where they're meaning in terms
Speaker 1: of policy um and in terms of their opinions and
Speaker 1: feelings about what should happen in your state. Do some research,
Speaker 1: find those things out, because you might be the one
Speaker 1: to say, whoa is something happening here? And before they
Speaker 1: actually signed this law, with this bill, we are going
Speaker 1: to hit the streets and push back. They are not
Speaker 1: going to stop if they think that the people are quiet, right,
Speaker 1: We're always gonna push back. So just know that Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: we on you, Joe Mention, we on you. Everybody that
Speaker 1: can do something for us, that got the the ability
Speaker 1: to pass these laws and you're trying to pass laws
Speaker 1: that directly target us as protesters, black people and everything
Speaker 1: were on you. We own you, you know. Minus. We
Speaker 1: always talk about all our friends, and today we have
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Speaker 1: Tesla and Figua is certainly one of those individuals. A
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Speaker 1: I want to tell y'all first of all, now we
Speaker 1: tell people every day to listen to Tesla, So I
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Speaker 1: of all of these different cases um that he's working
Speaker 1: on and and policy changes that need to happen in
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Speaker 1: It's always honor the sea. Test. Like you said, straight shot,
Speaker 1: no chaser. We outside. That's my outside partner. They hate
Speaker 1: when we say we outside. Man, if you don't know
Speaker 1: Test Test listened to me, Tessa text me sometimes like
Speaker 1: I'm about to go in on these clowns. You know.
Speaker 1: She she'll test me like, look to tune in because
Speaker 1: I'm about to go in, and I tune in, I
Speaker 1: get my popcorn, and she's gonna break it down to you.
Speaker 1: She don't duck no, she ain't ducking no smoke, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She's gonna stand on what she's
Speaker 1: standing on every time. She's one of the favorite, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people to just listen to and just
Speaker 1: get commentary from because it's always gonna be wrong and authentic.
Speaker 1: And you know, we have so many similarities because we
Speaker 1: both have that hood background, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We have that background where we understand the dynamics of
Speaker 1: the streets, but we understand how to you know, the
Speaker 1: to navigate through these suits. So you know, she's definitely
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people. So now since you're on here,
Speaker 1: I have a segment that I do you know, and
Speaker 1: I've seen you talking about this yesterday, so that's why
Speaker 1: it's perfect that you actually here. This segment is called
Speaker 1: I don't get it, you know, And what I don't
Speaker 1: get right now is we know McCay bryant was killed
Speaker 1: at the hands of the police. What I don't get
Speaker 1: it's how we have so many people that come from
Speaker 1: actually come from the communities in the backgrounds that we
Speaker 1: have that are justifying this fifteen year old girl being
Speaker 1: killed shot pretty much in the back by officers. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't get. I understand that legally they can do this.
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, there is legal terms that justified,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand how morally I were moral conscious
Speaker 1: and I'm more compass makes people believe that it was
Speaker 1: okay for officers to shoot a fifteen year old four
Speaker 1: times after about seven seconds from getting from his car
Speaker 1: and not asking no questions, not grabbing, not trying to intervene,
Speaker 1: but shoot up four times to end her life. And
Speaker 1: there's so many people saying, well, what else could he
Speaker 1: have done? I really just don't get that. I just
Speaker 1: don't get that mind stage. Can you kind of help me,
Speaker 1: or can you give me some understanding of what you
Speaker 1: think they mean or how you think people are viewing
Speaker 1: this situation. Yeah, and again thanks for having me my side.
Speaker 1: I really think it comes down to it. It's a
Speaker 1: couple of people in the comments. When you know, when
Speaker 1: I say in the comments, I'm talking about people overall
Speaker 1: that are making comments on this particular case. You have
Speaker 1: one folks who are simply white supremacists who are using
Speaker 1: troll account ounce to be able to use this case
Speaker 1: as an example to distract from the obvious evidence from
Speaker 1: the George Floyd case that nobody that was very hard
Speaker 1: for anybody to argue. This gives them a case to say,
Speaker 1: what about the nice what about protecting the girl in
Speaker 1: the pink? You know, I knew, I know you guys
Speaker 1: don't care about black on black crime because you're not
Speaker 1: standing for her. So it gives them an opportunity to
Speaker 1: have a conversation that they've been waiting to have to say, look, look, look,
Speaker 1: we told you people black folks do try to harm
Speaker 1: other black people. Because we have an opportunity to say, look, look,
Speaker 1: look look at what happened with George Floyd. We told
Speaker 1: you That's what we've been talking about. So you have
Speaker 1: that person who was out there doing that, who was
Speaker 1: intentionally creating chaos around this to distract you into adjudicating
Speaker 1: every single step of this particular case. Then you have
Speaker 1: the second person that's in the comments, who is for
Speaker 1: black people, for the movement, but they understand the word justification.
Speaker 1: They're having a language issue. When we say it's justified,
Speaker 1: we we do not mean that it is justice, meaning
Speaker 1: that we are not treated equally, But they're using the
Speaker 1: word justified as a way of if we were to
Speaker 1: take this case to trial. Uh and based upon policy,
Speaker 1: what you want to talk about all the time, what
Speaker 1: needs to be changed? Policy says that he had the
Speaker 1: right to intervene if he if if someone was getting
Speaker 1: ready to cause him deadly harm or someone else a
Speaker 1: third party. So there's people in the comments I would
Speaker 1: say that truly are just having a language issue and
Speaker 1: are and they're not strapped with knowledge and facts on
Speaker 1: what it is that you, Tamika and Linda and me
Speaker 1: and so many others are trying to talk about when
Speaker 1: we talk about overall policing. So you have these different
Speaker 1: elements you know, that are going on at the same time,
Speaker 1: and actually, you know, I'm talking to attorney at Lee
Speaker 1: Jackson yesterday trade by Marn's attorney, and she said, tests
Speaker 1: these are the cases that really show where people stand.
Speaker 1: It gives us an opportunity to have political education. It
Speaker 1: gives us an opportunity to go deeper into things that
Speaker 1: are our community should fix within ourselves. And in addition
Speaker 1: to what we should hold the police, are the government
Speaker 1: accountable for when you say the words it's not right
Speaker 1: and when I hear right. And I was talking to
Speaker 1: our brother Charlemagne about this, but it's not right, it's
Speaker 1: not right to think. He even talked about it, you know,
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. And so I reminded him of
Speaker 1: the quote from Martin Luther King and said, morality cannot
Speaker 1: be legislated, but behavior can be regulated. Digital decrees may
Speaker 1: not change the heart, but they can restrain the heart less.
Speaker 1: So when we're using language to say but it's not right,
Speaker 1: but it's not right, my question is how do we
Speaker 1: fix it? How do we legislate morality Where we can't
Speaker 1: legislate morality. We also don't want to say who's in
Speaker 1: charge of determining what's right and what's wrong, because more
Speaker 1: likely than not, most of the things that we do
Speaker 1: will be determined not right. So when we're advocating, what
Speaker 1: is it that we're trying to change about this situation?
Speaker 1: I did my life. I'm so glad you got stopped
Speaker 1: in because I want to make a point to everybody,
Speaker 1: particularly those that are challenging until freedom and what you
Speaker 1: guys do your role as an activist, and I need
Speaker 1: people to get this, like understand that you don't do
Speaker 1: what they do. We need you pushing the line all day,
Speaker 1: every day for black life period. That that goes for Makaya,
Speaker 1: the Young Lady, and the pink Uh, George Floyd, whoever else,
Speaker 1: the many cases that you work on. The people know
Speaker 1: nothing about. You have a role as an activist to
Speaker 1: like we said in the hood, get active. You're a
Speaker 1: frontline soldier. So when I see people say in the comments, well,
Speaker 1: they should be saying this, and they should be saying that, No,
Speaker 1: your role is to do what they won't do because
Speaker 1: the reality of it is they get to go to
Speaker 1: work tomorrow and say I'm turning it off. I've had
Speaker 1: so many people, and you know, we talked about this
Speaker 1: with the George Floyd case. So many people that I've
Speaker 1: known throughout my career that's never called me to do
Speaker 1: a mental health check in until the George Floyd case.
Speaker 1: Because they said, how do you deal with this every day?
Speaker 1: I said, this is every day, like y'all just now
Speaker 1: paying attention. But they were forced to turn on the TV.
Speaker 1: They couldn't look anywhere without here about it, and they said,
Speaker 1: I cannot deal with the trauma. And I said, this
Speaker 1: is why, you know. It requires a personality like to me,
Speaker 1: to like my son, to be able to have the
Speaker 1: armor of God as you, as I would say, to
Speaker 1: be able to go out and fight these battles while
Speaker 1: everybody else go to work on Monday. So we need
Speaker 1: you turned all the way up ten and higher because
Speaker 1: of what you've been called to do now for people
Speaker 1: like me. And I'm just I'm framing this and I
Speaker 1: won't be long, but I'm framing this because I want
Speaker 1: people to get this, people like me. To the political
Speaker 1: commentators on TV, I got two minutes in thirty seconds
Speaker 1: most times to respond to a question. I have to
Speaker 1: answer the question. I have to give uh answer what
Speaker 1: they asked. I have to give my point of what
Speaker 1: I'm trying going to get out, all in two minutes
Speaker 1: and twenty seconds so when I have less than three
Speaker 1: minutes to take a stand, I am standing for black people.
Speaker 1: Let's never get that twisted. These types of platforms allow
Speaker 1: us to have the overall conversation on what is it
Speaker 1: about this case that is that is stuck, keeping people
Speaker 1: stuck and and making people feel some type of way.
Speaker 1: What I would say, my sign is there's three things
Speaker 1: that we talked about this before. There's protests, there's policy,
Speaker 1: and then there's punishment. In that order, you cannot have
Speaker 1: policy without protests. I'm secle folks saying protesting doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You cannot have policy without protests because somebody got to
Speaker 1: pull somebody's card. Period nexus policy. If I were to say,
Speaker 1: I want people to consider, what is it that is
Speaker 1: going to change police officers killing unarmed black people in
Speaker 1: our community when they arrive on the scene. Let's give
Speaker 1: some facts quickly. A thousand civilians are killed each year
Speaker 1: by law enforcement officers. Black men are two point five
Speaker 1: times more likely than white men to be killed by
Speaker 1: the police. There was another study that said black people
Speaker 1: who were fatally shot by the police were twice as
Speaker 1: likely let me say it again, twice as likely to
Speaker 1: be unarmed opposed to white people. There's another stack from
Speaker 1: Texas A and M in college station. Folks can look
Speaker 1: this up. Two million, nine one one calls in two U. S.
Speaker 1: Cities concluded that white officers dispatched to black neighborhoods fired
Speaker 1: their guns five times more than black officers. Does that
Speaker 1: mean that black officers, uh don't break the uh keep
Speaker 1: the wall, the blue wall of silence. Absolutely, there was
Speaker 1: a black officer on the sul Macayah. We are certainly
Speaker 1: not saying that black officers are better than white folks.
Speaker 1: What this says is that black officers that respond to
Speaker 1: situations in our neighborhoods are five times less likely to
Speaker 1: shoot a gun, maybe because they don't have our fear
Speaker 1: for my life, Maybe because they don't see another black
Speaker 1: man as a threat, maybe because running away doesn't hurt
Speaker 1: their ego, their white privilege ego, because resisting only hurts
Speaker 1: the ego. It doesn't hurt anybody but the ego. When
Speaker 1: you're running away, when you're trying to get away like Dante, right,
Speaker 1: the ego saying how dare you do this? And then
Speaker 1: me shoot? That is an ego issue and we have
Speaker 1: to start using that language as such. So people that
Speaker 1: don't like the Macayo Bryan case, I tell them this.
Speaker 1: If you don't like this, then pick one that you
Speaker 1: do like. Going back and forth, trying to judicate with
Speaker 1: every single person is draining the energy of the movement,
Speaker 1: and it is strategically being done because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I continue to keep asking people if
Speaker 1: they say, well, she had a knife, Okay, I got you,
Speaker 1: And how do we stop black people from being killed
Speaker 1: five times more than than anybody else when the police
Speaker 1: are called, Well, she was getting ready to harm the girl. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you. Now, how do we stop people from
Speaker 1: being killed five times more likely when they respond in
Speaker 1: our neighborhood? Oh well he was resistant, Okay, I got you. Now,
Speaker 1: how do we respond it? You continue to keep asking
Speaker 1: it for those who give a damn about what's happening
Speaker 1: with black people. If you give a damn about with
Speaker 1: having black people, that's the talking point. Continue to ask that,
Speaker 1: and you know what that's gonna do? My sign make
Speaker 1: them come up with a solution. Nobody wants to come
Speaker 1: up with a solution. It's better to just continue to
Speaker 1: be a clown in the comments. The bottom line is,
Speaker 1: what do we do to make sure that unarmed black people,
Speaker 1: well Mkaya was armed. Okay, but what about five times
Speaker 1: more likely the unarmed black people get killed. Throw it
Speaker 1: back to them to give them a solution, because then
Speaker 1: you have to say, what do we do when we
Speaker 1: task the Justice and George George Floyd Act Senator Joe
Speaker 1: Manson get off your ass and make it happen. It
Speaker 1: makes you take a look and see who you're leadering. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna do anohing like okay, well we know
Speaker 1: not doing nothing. Damn show I'm not gonna do nothing.
Speaker 1: So we can continue to keep saying or what's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Was that's gonna happen? Or we can continue
Speaker 1: to push the line. And that's so important. I think
Speaker 1: everything that you said is, you know, very clear, and
Speaker 1: I think it also helps us as advocates in terms
Speaker 1: of when we are making a case for ended duals,
Speaker 1: for policy change, for whatever it is, that it has
Speaker 1: to all be rooted in the solution um. And that's
Speaker 1: why I think you saw and a love that the
Speaker 1: four co founders of Until Freedom did the other day
Speaker 1: we were talking about defunding the police and explaining the
Speaker 1: system that has been created in New York to deal
Speaker 1: with violence. It's a solution and it can be UM
Speaker 1: used across the nation. It's a model for the entire
Speaker 1: country of how you take money from police departments and
Speaker 1: put it into programming within our community that deals with
Speaker 1: mental health, that deals with UM, you know, dealing with
Speaker 1: families that are traumatized for a multitude of of of reasons, UM,
Speaker 1: dealing with with different issues UM. It also deals with
Speaker 1: drug abuse, UM. It deals with clean food UM, you know,
Speaker 1: and addressing the issues of food deserts. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so many things that can happen if you don't put
Speaker 1: six billion dollars like New York into policing for them
Speaker 1: to buy military equipment that they barely ever use except
Speaker 1: when they show up at protests because for the most part,
Speaker 1: the issues that bring police out in military equipment because
Speaker 1: we don't have terrorism UM issues every single day. Not
Speaker 1: saying that there doesn't have to be a closet or
Speaker 1: a locker room somewhere that's got all the things you
Speaker 1: need in case we are attacked. We we we agree
Speaker 1: that there needs to be a response to that, but
Speaker 1: we see police officers on our street corners dealing with
Speaker 1: protests with tanks and military equipment that they should not
Speaker 1: be using to address protesters who, by the way, we're
Speaker 1: not protesting to say we want the right to go
Speaker 1: break in a store and steal closed we want the
Speaker 1: right to just cause them. No, you killed somebody. You
Speaker 1: killed one of our beloved family, loved ones, you know,
Speaker 1: people we care about, and the response is to cover
Speaker 1: it up or to ignore the pain that is coming
Speaker 1: from the community, and then to meet us with military
Speaker 1: equipment as if we are the criminals, as if we
Speaker 1: are committed the the act that caused the unrest. And
Speaker 1: so that for us, UM to your point, is a solution,
Speaker 1: and it's something that we constantly talk about. And I
Speaker 1: think in the Macayah Bryant situation, your language and your
Speaker 1: explanation around how officers are five times more likely to
Speaker 1: kill people in our community, particularly white officers. Again, we
Speaker 1: know black officers do some of the same things, but
Speaker 1: we know that in most of these cases, it is
Speaker 1: a white officer who has committed UM an act of killing,
Speaker 1: abusing and threatening the life of of of a black person.
Speaker 1: And I saw this on Joy and Read's page. I
Speaker 1: thought it was really important. I want to read it
Speaker 1: um to you all today. So this is a tweet
Speaker 1: that she put up where she is advocating uh for
Speaker 1: Macaya Bryant, and in fact it is a repost from
Speaker 1: a man the seals. Um I don't know who Molly
Speaker 1: Shack is. Maybe you all do know what I don't know.
Speaker 1: So she says, while national eyes are on Columbus police
Speaker 1: because of the horrific slang of sixteen year old Makaya Bryant,
Speaker 1: let me remind you of recent events that demonstrate the
Speaker 1: irredeemably tyrannical, racist, and violent nature to talk amount of
Speaker 1: the police department. So she shows the night before Macaya
Speaker 1: was killed, thousands of white Ohio State fans celebrating a
Speaker 1: practice football scrimmage by flipping and burning cars. Police did
Speaker 1: not come and no one was arrested. Okay, but you'll say, well,
Speaker 1: but that's still not someone charging at another individual with
Speaker 1: a knife. So these are other stories. CPD kill old
Speaker 1: Casey Goodson Jr. Who was walking into his home with
Speaker 1: a subway sandwich for his family. They killed Andre Hill
Speaker 1: just a few days after that. He was in the
Speaker 1: garage of his friend's house at the dropping off Christmas presents.
Speaker 1: Um I think that that's also a case that attorney
Speaker 1: Benjamin Crump is on and is fighting for his family. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Monday before, Columbus police shot and killed a black
Speaker 1: man named Miles Jackson in the emergency room at St.
Speaker 1: Anne's Hospital after bringing him there for a suspected overdose.
Speaker 1: Of course, it talks about McKay Bryan. Now, this was
Speaker 1: what I thought was staggering. It says in the last
Speaker 1: five years CPD has killed more than thirty people, most
Speaker 1: of whom were black. Tyree King was thirteen, Julius Tape
Speaker 1: was sixteen, Abd Rhyman Salad was sixteen, was fifteen, Henry
Speaker 1: Green and Donna Dalton were twenty three. Okay, and there's
Speaker 1: a list. There's a list of other individuals. Now, there
Speaker 1: will be some people Teslain and Mason, who will make
Speaker 1: the case that, well, this situation was different. But I
Speaker 1: submit and will continue to say that I do not
Speaker 1: believe that police officers who know the communities they work
Speaker 1: and they may not know the individuals, but they know
Speaker 1: the demographics. They know when they show up that it's
Speaker 1: more than likely black folks in this neighborhood, white folks
Speaker 1: in this neighborhood Latinos and another and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. I do not believe that police officers are
Speaker 1: showing up to places where sixteen year old girl a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl black women. To your point, maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't know she was sixteen, but black women are
Speaker 1: having a fight, and and and and and and let
Speaker 1: me say it in the reverse, because that's my point.
Speaker 1: Where white girls, white women are in an altercation where
Speaker 1: they pull out their weapon and shoot four times to
Speaker 1: the body a young white girl, I don't see it happening. Now.
Speaker 1: Somebody said to me, well, there was this case over here,
Speaker 1: in this case over here. Okay, perhaps there's been one
Speaker 1: or two times. There's nothing that's absolute in life, right
Speaker 1: except the fact that we're going to die. That's it.
Speaker 1: So I understand that. But when we look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: it is overwhelmingly the case that police officers respond to
Speaker 1: our communities without discernment, without taking the time to figure out,
Speaker 1: and they kill people too often. And now a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old baby is dead. And of course I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1: I understand the complications of everything that was happening. I
Speaker 1: get to your point when you say, you know, people
Speaker 1: want to talk about the force one. I get it,
Speaker 1: the force, the home, the other parents, the the the
Speaker 1: the where were the adults? I get that. I am
Speaker 1: specifically dealing with the fact that we are burying too
Speaker 1: many of our own people at the hands of police.
Speaker 1: And I want to know what type of um training, right,
Speaker 1: because everything is about training and I don't believe that
Speaker 1: training is the resolve. I do not believe that training
Speaker 1: is the resolve to this issue. I believe that, as
Speaker 1: you said, policy change and corrective behavior through accountability and
Speaker 1: punishment for when you commit crimes in our community is
Speaker 1: the only thing that's going to stop police brutality or
Speaker 1: to at least reduce it. That's what I believe. But
Speaker 1: if we're going to retrain, and that's a part, cool,
Speaker 1: show me what the training is that. Ericaford of Life
Speaker 1: Camp in Queens, A. T. Mitchell in of man Up
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Um, Uh, what's our brother's name in d C?
Speaker 1: My son Tony Lewis Jr. In d C. And the
Speaker 1: list goes on and on and on, because as we know,
Speaker 1: most black people do not call the police, but that
Speaker 1: does not mean that they're not dealing with issues. Right.
Speaker 1: These anti violence advocates, the social work is at school teachers,
Speaker 1: in classrooms, on playgrounds. Mama them, what kind of training
Speaker 1: do they have where they are able to disarm? And
Speaker 1: when I talk about these these anti violence advocates, a
Speaker 1: knife would be a nice day for them. They're dealing
Speaker 1: with guns, real weapons, weapons that folks are, that folks
Speaker 1: have and kids have, and I'm prepared to kill one
Speaker 1: another another over all types of things. And somehow Erica
Speaker 1: Ford tells the story of just how last summer they
Speaker 1: literally took knives and bleach out of the hands of
Speaker 1: young girls who had gotten into a fight. Now, unless
Speaker 1: you're telling me that white people don't have these fights,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's the point, and my son, you can
Speaker 1: of course jump in here. But perhaps what they're saying
Speaker 1: is that white people don't have fights, they don't have knives,
Speaker 1: they don't get into these types of things, that they
Speaker 1: are much more orderly in their communities, and that when
Speaker 1: the police show up and they say, you know, drop it,
Speaker 1: or they just show up because you know, it was
Speaker 1: so much fighting happening in that moment, I could see
Speaker 1: how you don't even know that there's an officer there
Speaker 1: which not to mention their two other officers who are
Speaker 1: standing there who are who don't have their weapons drawn,
Speaker 1: So I don't you know all of the dynamics there.
Speaker 1: To me, says that there was an opportunity to do
Speaker 1: whatever you do when you go to other communities where
Speaker 1: they have the same ship going on. But unless people
Speaker 1: are saying that that's not the case, then maybe I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: But that's what I see, And so this is where
Speaker 1: I'm where where I am. And by the way, when
Speaker 1: you talk about us being advocate, when you speak about,
Speaker 1: you know, us being on one extreme, because we're dealing
Speaker 1: with people who are on such a far extreme that
Speaker 1: we could never get extreme enough in order to be
Speaker 1: able to counterbalance what we are up against in terms
Speaker 1: of how white supremacy is perpetuated within our communities. Um.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about that, for my position, the
Speaker 1: role that I think we take is one to look
Speaker 1: at the overall, not just situation by situation by situation,
Speaker 1: is to look at the overall, and it's and for me,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to stand up for the shooter and the
Speaker 1: person who is shot, right. I am an advocate who
Speaker 1: understands that whatever Macaya Bryant went through for her whole
Speaker 1: life matters in the moment that we're looking at it matters.
Speaker 1: It may not matter to a police office. And perhaps
Speaker 1: I know I'm talking long, but this is important to me.
Speaker 1: Perhaps the reason why social worker and anti violence UH interrupter,
Speaker 1: a teacher, Mama, Auntie, and the neighbor can disarmed and
Speaker 1: deal with these types of things without someone dying is
Speaker 1: because they actually care about the communities that they work
Speaker 1: in and the people that they're working with. Perhaps that's
Speaker 1: the difference. That's the that's the whole difference. That's that's
Speaker 1: pretty much the whole thing. And that's my premise. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand what's justified. I understand what legal,
Speaker 1: legally they can do, but I understand that me as
Speaker 1: a man coming from my community, if I come into
Speaker 1: my community, that's gonna be the last resort that's gonna
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the first. Not within eight seconds, am
Speaker 1: I gonna shoot teach two girls fighting and shoot. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I might, I might risk my own life, I
Speaker 1: might take have to take one of those stab wounds
Speaker 1: before I'm trying to take a fifteen year old girl.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be in my mind, say my moral
Speaker 1: compass does not allow me to say, hey, I'm The
Speaker 1: first thing I think is I have to completely take
Speaker 1: this lady's life. It just it's not in me. And
Speaker 1: we need we need or first of all, we need.
Speaker 1: The screening process for who becomes an officer has to change, right.
Speaker 1: You can't just you gotta have more than just a
Speaker 1: high school dipromo at this point. You gotta have you
Speaker 1: gotta have some level of for the two. You gotta
Speaker 1: have some level of manhood, some strength. You can't be
Speaker 1: scared because the fact that we have these scared officers,
Speaker 1: because that's the first thing they said, they feared for
Speaker 1: their life, and they don't even be threatened Like I
Speaker 1: got my homeboys that's in the park that have no training,
Speaker 1: that have taken knives out of girl's hands. I've taken
Speaker 1: knives out of my sisters in them hands a million times,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Saying, So when we have
Speaker 1: officers who are who trained and paid to come to
Speaker 1: our community to protect and serve, who's first thought is
Speaker 1: I'm so much in fear, I'll get out my coat,
Speaker 1: my hand on my gun. I see two women. I
Speaker 1: never take my hand off the gun. I never try
Speaker 1: to intervene. I'm close enough to grab one of them,
Speaker 1: I don't reach. I just pulled my gun out and
Speaker 1: I aim with this target because I see this knife
Speaker 1: in my hand and I'm so much in fear. If
Speaker 1: you come from our communities, then you're gonna know that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be knobs all the time. You're gonna come
Speaker 1: in there with a different mindset. You're gonna understand what
Speaker 1: the dynamics is, what the culture is, how do you
Speaker 1: do you de escalate, how do you disarm people? You
Speaker 1: know what? What's the risk? The real risk fact that
Speaker 1: you did well. We need people who understand that. And
Speaker 1: it's not just so much as them actually coming from
Speaker 1: the because they're coming from the community and understand the
Speaker 1: culture is is definitely primar to me. But it's just
Speaker 1: about having a level of manhood and bravery. Right. We
Speaker 1: can't you can't hire cowards to be police officers. But
Speaker 1: and I agree, and these are all important points, which
Speaker 1: is why this case is so important to have as
Speaker 1: a community, because there's so many different intricacies and people
Speaker 1: are kind of finding, you know, what they want to
Speaker 1: catch on too. I like to deal with facts, you know,
Speaker 1: And because when I'm doing commentary and I am usually
Speaker 1: debating somebody that is on the extreme right, I can't
Speaker 1: leave any opening for a what had happened was so
Speaker 1: all of our arguments are are important, but I try
Speaker 1: to stick to the overarching thing because we can't legislate
Speaker 1: somebody to care. We can't make somebody care. What we
Speaker 1: can do, though, is start talking about maybe we need
Speaker 1: to consider removing the shoot center man's maybe we need
Speaker 1: to consider removing I was in fear for my life.
Speaker 1: Maybe we need to reconsider like to me, because said,
Speaker 1: how do we disarm people? Because based on the facts
Speaker 1: since two thousand five, thirteen thousand, I'm getting into the
Speaker 1: punishment side, thirteen thousand deadly police shootings, only a hundred
Speaker 1: and six officers were charged with murder or manslaughter, and
Speaker 1: only thirty three of them were convicted, but not of
Speaker 1: murder on manslaughter, which is the same thing of somebody
Speaker 1: driving drunk and oh I just accidentally, you know, kill someone.
Speaker 1: These are the facts, and when it says only four
Speaker 1: of them were convicted with murder, these are facts. So
Speaker 1: the part that we can change right now, while we're
Speaker 1: working to change people's hearts, while we're working too, because
Speaker 1: I always make it clear that defund the police is
Speaker 1: absolutely important because you guys do work all of the
Speaker 1: other work that they say, oh, don't do that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You keep repeating it over and over. What
Speaker 1: you do, um, you know, for dealing with issues within
Speaker 1: our community. But all of those that defund the police
Speaker 1: mechanism plays into that, putting that money into the community
Speaker 1: so that you don't have volicial situations. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about black on black crime. Why don't
Speaker 1: white crime, Asian or Asian crime, Hispanic on Hispanic crime.
Speaker 1: Anytime people live among each other is gonna be crimes,
Speaker 1: So let's kill that that that argument. But deefund the
Speaker 1: police does not deal with punishment. That goes into policy.
Speaker 1: We when we talk about policy, we deal with the law,
Speaker 1: the law, and then administrative policy. Over one hundred cities
Speaker 1: changed administrative policy since the death of George Floyd. We
Speaker 1: don't talk about that enough. Why are we not following
Speaker 1: that New York City in the qualified immunity, Colorado the
Speaker 1: state in the qualified immunity. You heard more about New
Speaker 1: York because New York is the largest city, and most
Speaker 1: folks talked about it, but people didn't even know Colorado
Speaker 1: did it at all. And they have some of the
Speaker 1: most progressive police reformed policies that they put in place.
Speaker 1: So to me, it all comes down to the policy.
Speaker 1: But we need all these different voices. But I hope
Speaker 1: that all of us that are constantly, you know, in
Speaker 1: in this conversation every day, live, eat, eat, breathing, that
Speaker 1: we're centering it on policy. And that's what I'm asking,
Speaker 1: make sure that we're including policy because I don't expect
Speaker 1: them to give a damn. I really don't. I I
Speaker 1: expect until this changes, I expect them to continue to
Speaker 1: have problems recruiting uh black officers to work in the community.
Speaker 1: I expect them to have issues where people say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I've known more in black officers who have
Speaker 1: retired since this foolishness because they don't even want to
Speaker 1: be associated, you know, with with the type of gang
Speaker 1: banging the police officers are doing. I've removed knives from
Speaker 1: people's hands. As this obstitute teacher, I get all of that.
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting them to do what I do or
Speaker 1: care about what I care. What I'm expecting is that
Speaker 1: we have policy in place because actually my sign. There's
Speaker 1: policy in place. It says taser first, and you know
Speaker 1: areas of de escalation that it should go up and
Speaker 1: up and up and up and up. I don't want
Speaker 1: to for me when I'm commentating it in the comments,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get caught up in the knife
Speaker 1: and you don't have two seconds and he had to
Speaker 1: respond and it was legal. I think those conversations should
Speaker 1: be had, and I think you guys and others are
Speaker 1: doing excellent job job with that. When I am debating
Speaker 1: on TV especially, and within three minutes, I'm gonna continue
Speaker 1: to say, what do we do to make sure five
Speaker 1: times people are not kids are like? Because it leaves
Speaker 1: it makes you deal with what it is. Each one
Speaker 1: of these cases are different, They're not all the same.
Speaker 1: We'll spend all day adjudicating. How about we direct their
Speaker 1: energy on complete root form, complete dismantle, not abolished, because
Speaker 1: we need police officers. My position, you have to have
Speaker 1: police officers, you have to have something in order but
Speaker 1: to dismantle and I and we use this word reimagine,
Speaker 1: I guess because it sounds good, a safer word, but
Speaker 1: tear this ship down. But Barzilla said it great. This morning,
Speaker 1: tear it down and let's rebuild, and it starts at
Speaker 1: punishment first before well, listen, that's the great test test,
Speaker 1: the shot, the straight shot, no chaser. Listen, man, that
Speaker 1: she's gonna get. You can't be in her comments talking
Speaker 1: crazy because she's gonna give it to you that way
Speaker 1: every time. I just want to say thank you, because
Speaker 1: that's your mentality. Is exactly where I met with it,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the mentality that I have, Like, we
Speaker 1: need soldiers, and I think that's where my frustration comes
Speaker 1: from that I see so few soldiers, you know, so
Speaker 1: many even people that you will leave. The soldiers that
Speaker 1: you will leave are gonna be right beside you, and
Speaker 1: I'm constantly disappointed. But just the advocation and just some
Speaker 1: of the men mentalities that some of these brothers have,
Speaker 1: and I think right now that I've really been moved
Speaker 1: to it. You know, I had a conversation about the
Speaker 1: Million Man March. You know, I had a conversation with
Speaker 1: the brothers. They had a celebration last year, and they
Speaker 1: want us to take it to the next level. And
Speaker 1: I think the Million Kings Marches needs to be next
Speaker 1: and where we start really redefining what it is for manhood.
Speaker 1: We redefining with soldiers what we need to be doing
Speaker 1: at this moment, because our young brothers are watching some
Speaker 1: of these fake ass o g s and people that
Speaker 1: saying they geez and they're following their you know, they're
Speaker 1: following what they're doing and they ain't doing it right
Speaker 1: or they ain't doing nothing at all, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I think we have to re gather
Speaker 1: our brothers and restructure your mind state, re established where
Speaker 1: we are as kings, what being the king means, what
Speaker 1: being a soldier means, and how much is needed in
Speaker 1: these times. So thank you Tesla for having more heart
Speaker 1: than most of the dudes that I talked to. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, the woman around me is
Speaker 1: tougher than the dudes man, and that's what I think
Speaker 1: really frustrates me. But my mayby Mama go what harder
Speaker 1: than you niggas the fact man, So I just want
Speaker 1: to say we love you. Test You know, we could
Speaker 1: do this all day, all the time, and you know
Speaker 1: what you bring to this movement. You know the way
Speaker 1: that you're able to take what it is that I
Speaker 1: do and just package it a little better. I love it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I love it too. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And hey, I just want to say this again because
Speaker 1: I want everybody be clear. My son want to get you,
Speaker 1: want to get you all together a million kings. You
Speaker 1: want to get tesln ted and keep your ass at
Speaker 1: the house. Wanna come to me. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: Harriet Tubman. I'm honking horn one time. You know, I've
Speaker 1: said this to Meka before to me and said you'll
Speaker 1: go back and get him and said, no, I want
Speaker 1: because somebody got to know the bus gonna leave them,
Speaker 1: because if they don't have that threat, we all have
Speaker 1: a role. My FN really wants you all to get
Speaker 1: it together. Tesla telling keep your ass at the house
Speaker 1: because somebody gonna get killed. I shot, So just stay
Speaker 1: at the house, do what you do. And just I
Speaker 1: just want three hundred to follow me. That's it. Just
Speaker 1: three hundreds sold. That's all I need. And in the meantime,
Speaker 1: let my sign get a million together and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna let him do that, and let's respect when
Speaker 1: we all do it. Let's keep it moving. There will
Speaker 1: be three hundred to come from the one million, so
Speaker 1: we get the one million. That's how we do. We
Speaker 1: love you, Test, we appreciate you as it's so great
Speaker 1: to be and we can't wait to have you back again.
Speaker 1: Go listen to Test in the show Straight Shot No
Speaker 1: Chaser on the Black Effect Network. It's Straight Shots No Chasing. Man,
Speaker 1: push the push the side as you to our sister,
Speaker 1: straight Shot No Chaser. You know, Test, I love to
Speaker 1: hear Tests talk their talk. Man. She she breaks it
Speaker 1: down so eloqually and then bring it back to the
Speaker 1: hood with it. Man. Yeah, like she said, Man, we
Speaker 1: definitely need to focus on politics, even though I hate
Speaker 1: politics and everything that goes with it. It's politics from
Speaker 1: the streets to the suitets. You know, we need policy
Speaker 1: to be enforced. That makes it a crime. You know,
Speaker 1: there has to be consequence. It makes it a crime
Speaker 1: for you to walk into our communities and just shoot
Speaker 1: four shots. I don't care if they got a nice
Speaker 1: nothing you should put. They're supposed to be steps. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta get a taser, get involved. You might have
Speaker 1: to do something else, but we we were trying to
Speaker 1: preserve life in our community. We need officers that believe that,
Speaker 1: that empathize with us, that see us as human beings
Speaker 1: that come into our communities that want to leave and
Speaker 1: make sure that everybody leaves alive, you know. So that's
Speaker 1: what we gotta be intentional about. I read with you mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who feel differently, and of course we know that. Uh,
Speaker 1: there are many police officers who all they want to
Speaker 1: do is get home and they want to keep everybody safe.
Speaker 1: But the ones that don't, they spoil the entire pot.
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna let these folks off the hook.
Speaker 1: We're going to, you know, continue to raise our voices.
Speaker 1: And the more that people try to push back and
Speaker 1: justify the killing of Makaia Bryant, it makes me even
Speaker 1: want to determined to stand up for that young sister
Speaker 1: and to speak for her and to say her name.
Speaker 1: So before we leave, I would be remissed not to
Speaker 1: mention the young three year old boy who was killed
Speaker 1: in Miami. You know, gunshot, senseless, gun violence. Brothers, we
Speaker 1: gotta do a lot better, man. You know, I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna hold the system accountable and make sure that they're accountable.
Speaker 1: What I want us to be accountable as well. When
Speaker 1: you hear stories like a young boy who was at
Speaker 1: his three third birthday party. Gun damn. You know it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. You know, we have to do a
Speaker 1: lot of better, a lot better in our communities. We
Speaker 1: have to hold ourselves accountable. We gotta have so so
Speaker 1: called old gez that you in the streets and you
Speaker 1: in that lifestyle to to have some level of consequences
Speaker 1: for things like that. You gotta have real conversations with
Speaker 1: these young brothers. You know the fact that you just
Speaker 1: senselessly shooting and you ain't even hitting the person that
Speaker 1: you supposedly call out. You know, I don't understand. How
Speaker 1: do you keep shooting woman in babies? You know, it
Speaker 1: just does makes sense. So maybe you should just stop shooting.
Speaker 1: How About since you can't hit the target you hit
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't be shooting at that target, maybe you
Speaker 1: should just stop shooting all together. Maybe we gotta find
Speaker 1: different ways. Maybe you could need to go out to
Speaker 1: shoot five man. They used to give you a fade,
Speaker 1: you getting to be for a brother, used to knuckle up,
Speaker 1: and everybody went home afterwards, and you shook hands, and
Speaker 1: if you didn't feel well, you for them again. Everybody
Speaker 1: went home with their life. So man, brothers so once
Speaker 1: again I want to say right P to the young
Speaker 1: king a largea France three year old shot in Miami
Speaker 1: at his birthday party. Man, we gotta do better. We
Speaker 1: gotta protect our young babies, and we gotta protect our women.
Speaker 1: We gotta protect us. We gotta do better, kings. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So once again that brings us to the end of
Speaker 1: another show. This show was really heavy this whole week.
Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks have been heavy. Man r
Speaker 1: I P Dante, Right r I P d M Mix,
Speaker 1: r I P Black Rob, r I Pologla France r I,
Speaker 1: Pete Mkia Brian. And to all of you or anyone
Speaker 1: who is suffering from addiction, reach out to somebody. A
Speaker 1: lot of places that you can reach out to to
Speaker 1: get help. Don't hold it in, don't suffer. It's a
Speaker 1: really serious thing, and we noticed that. So once again,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna always be right to Mek is not
Speaker 1: gonna always be wrong, but we will both always be
Speaker 1: or then yeah,