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Speaker 4: Cardinals they released DeAndre Hopkins. They're going to take a

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Speaker 4: y'all good to go? Oh yeah, we're good.

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Speaker 3: You know out here, LaVar, I don't know what's been

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Speaker 3: going on with this weather man Phil the East Coast man. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't move out here for this. I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: that it's not cold, but it's just it's just dreary looking. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of weather changing, DeAndre Hopkins is going to

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Speaker 5: I mean, this man is a has two hundred and

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Speaker 5: But I just don't see how the Arizona Cardinals are

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Speaker 4: It seems like it's a it's definitely a prepare for

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Speaker 4: UH One one one destination that I'm not really hearing about.

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Speaker 1: Well that's why I've read, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I mean to me, would not be a good move

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Speaker 5: You're looking you're trying to put yourself in a situation

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Speaker 5: The LA Chargers is a good move, maybe even the

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Speaker 5: saying that Deshaun Watson can't. What I'm saying is that

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Speaker 3: Now we would assume that Shaun Watson will be a

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Speaker 3: he be that? Would he be Number one? People think, oh,

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Speaker 3: Why is that a problem? You didn't bet on NFL games.

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Speaker 4: want you to do, Like place that bet for me

434
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Speaker 4: and thank you very much, appreciate you, love.

435
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: You, talk to you out to practice whatever, like just

436
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: don't do it, like honestly, if the amount of money

437
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: guys make, unless you're a big time gambler, there's no

438
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 3: amount that you're gonna.

439
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: Win where you're gonna be like, man, I won it

440
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: was worth that six game.

441
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like bet dudes on a team, We're don't

442
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: do it this, gods, just do it for fun really,

443
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, but Vegas is Vegas for

444
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: a reason. You're gonna lose more than you win and

445
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: just keep your paper. We all know, man, certain guys

446
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: get away with things. They just as soon as Jamison

447
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: Williams got spent as probably five sixcept make guys like

448
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: they ain't.

449
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: Get me yet. You're doing this. It won't be the

450
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: last one, No, it will not.

451
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 5: As we sitting here continue to have this conversations on

452
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 5: multiple occasions, it will.

453
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: Not be ready to get suspended the whole year and

454
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: here we go again. It's like you would think guys

455
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: would learn. And yes he was betting on NFL games

456
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: and it's different, but still you're making bets and what

457
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 3: are you sitting in the locker room looking at lines

458
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, let me bet on this game. You

459
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: couldn't do that prior. You can't do it when you

460
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: get home after a practice or whatever it is. And

461
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: when did he make these bets because he wasn't even playing,

462
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: Like is he even in these meetings because he's doing

463
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: his rehab last year when this was taking place. So

464
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: there's just so many different things that have a gray

465
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: area that we just don't know about.

466
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: I just I just think in the end, it's not

467
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: like you said, it's just not it's just not worth

468
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: it to to be a part of something that puls

469
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: you into a scenario in a situation where it can

470
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 4: cost you your ability to be able to generate money.

471
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: Like I just I think it's just very in my estimation,

472
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 4: it's it shows a level of immaturity.

473
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: It shows a level of not not owning up to awareness.

474
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Man yeah, man not.

475
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: You definitely gotta be owning up to what what your

476
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 4: your job is and what you're doing and what your

477
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: opportunity is and be aware of the fact that even

478
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: if I don't know all of the specifics of what

479
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: it is that may be governing some of these rules

480
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay away from that, you know, I'm gonna

481
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: stay away from that, like anything. Like I sat in

482
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: those meetings and it was the most boringest stuff that

483
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: you'd ever deal with, sitting in those meetings where they

484
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 4: tell you all these rules, whether it be the new

485
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: rules of how they make it easier on receivers and

486
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: offensive players for the for the game, for the upcoming

487
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: season more.

488
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: Or really or or if it's the pocket, Wow, really

489
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: we took it. We took out of every position of

490
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: the football. Ye to say, what a mother rogers.

491
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 8: We sit in the back so wide receivers come man,

492
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 8: or we're sitting there listen to the talk about all

493
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 8: these god dang rules and and all, you know, even

494
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 8: and and I'll be honest with you, I doubt it.

495
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: And I focused in on the benefits, benefits conversations and

496
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: stuff like that.

497
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: Really really deeply.

498
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: But even then its just it's like it's a mix up,

499
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: Like it's a it's a brain scrambler because you're in

500
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: training camp.

501
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: That's always training.

502
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: Camp business, and your your mind, like you got to

503
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 4: take into consideration for any of those people that may

504
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 4: be sitting there acting as though like guys are ignorant

505
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: and they should have known and you get ample opportunity.

506
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Yeah you do. But you know what, guys are worrying

507
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: about making a roster.

508
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: Guys are worrying about not falling asleep because they're tired.

509
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: God, I mean. And that's not to make that's not

510
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: to make excuses. That is very real.

511
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: Like integrating those type of large downloads of information of

512
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: what the rules are and what's available and what isn't

513
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: you know, you would say the responsible thing is is

514
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: to follow up because there's no way you're going to

515
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: retain all that information in one sitting, in one meeting.

516
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: But at the same time, right is right and wrong

517
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: is wrong. You should know that if it's in doubt,

518
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: if it's in question, don't do it. Just don't do it.

519
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: And as far as gambling, it's so easy to just

520
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: give it to somebody that you love, Like, give it

521
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: to somebody that you love, let them place your bet,

522
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: and from there like done. Like they can't govern that,

523
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: the league can't govern that, and nobody else can govern that.

524
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: Don't have your name attached associated not your cell phone,

525
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: don't have no apps on your cell phone, like, have

526
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: somebody else do it for you, and nobody could say

527
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: anything to you.

528
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Done.

529
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: Moving on anyway, speaking and moving on, let's move on

530
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: to our man, Isaac Loewencron before we change topics and

531
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Speaker 4: go to something else.

532
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Speaker 1: What you got iloed.

533
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 6: Whise advice LeVar, Because as I always say.

534
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: You've got to have a fall guy.

535
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: Indeed, that's right. Today's double as LeVar is actually my

536
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 6: fall guy.

537
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: So there you go.

538
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 6: Make for some awkward moments today's mess. Okay, hey, hey,

539
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 6: if it's all right with you, it's definitely a right.

540
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: I know the rules, That's what you got to know.

541
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Got I know the rules so that means I can

542
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: manipulate them a little bit.

543
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 6: You dig Hey, Hey, I'm I'm all for it. I

544
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 6: think we form a formidable duo that way. Speaking of formidable,

545
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 6: today's Major League Baseball action gets underway at Yankee Stadium.

546
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 6: At the top of the hour is the A host

547
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 6: the San Diego Padres. Tonight. First up at eight pm Eastern,

548
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 6: it's Game five at the NHL's Western Conference Finals, with

549
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 6: the Vegas Golden Knights leading the Dallas Stars three games

550
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 6: to one. Then at eight thirty Eastern, Game six of

551
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 6: the NBA's Eastern Conference Finals, from Miami, the Heat leading

552
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 6: the Boston Celtics three games to two. Now, the Heat

553
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 6: says that guard Gabe Vincent was a partial participant at

554
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 6: shoot around today. Vincent did not play in Game five

555
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 6: because of a spring left ankle. He's officially listed as

556
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 6: questionable for game six. Finally, guys, there's been a new

557
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 6: development in a bizarre story in which an Internet sleuth

558
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 6: claimed that NBA referee Eric Lewis was using a burner

559
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 6: account to defend himself against critics on Twitter. Veteran NBA

560
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 6: reporter Mark Stein even tweeted that the NBA had opened

561
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Speaker 6: an official review into the situation. However, last night, the

562
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Speaker 6: alleged burner account posted, and I quote, this is Mark

563
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Speaker 6: Lewis right, family, older brother. I'm sorry that I put

564
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 6: E in this situation, but this ain't Watergate unquote. And

565
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: with that, fellas back to you.

566
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh there you go.

567
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: Ain't Watergate. Huh you have a fall guy, that's right, Well,

568
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: that's right, he got a fall. Guys like I don't

569
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: know who to believe. Uh So, Josh McDaniel seems to

570
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: be DeVante Adams fall guy. He's come out and basically

571
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: said that he understands uh and and and that Davante

572
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: has the right to vent his frustrations. You know, Jimmy

573
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: G had the surgery before signing with with the Vegas team.

574
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: Obviously he lost car uh and and so now go ahead,

575
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Speaker 4: I believe you had the surgery after he signed with

576
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: the Raiders. No, he had it before, He had it before,

577
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: because if you Jimmy G. No, he had it after

578
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: he signed the d Yes, after about and the Raiders

579
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: knew about it before they signed him.

580
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Speaker 1: Yes, is that how it worked? Yes?

581
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had he had the surgery after he signed

582
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Speaker 5: the contract, and the Raiders knew that he needed surgery

583
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Speaker 5: before they signed him, and they still signed.

584
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you're right there. Now there was was

585
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: that last year? Was that last year where he got

586
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: the surgery on what was it? On his shoulder? And

587
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: then it didn't allow for them to trade It didn't

588
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: allow for San Fran to trade him. I thought that

589
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: was this year.

590
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Speaker 3: Last year he was coming off shoulder surgery. This year

591
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: he had foot surgery after he signed with the Raiders, right, okay,

592
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: after he signed the country. My apologies, my apologies for twisting,

593
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: which makes zero sense.

594
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Speaker 5: I just don't understand how if you're an organization and

595
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 5: you're looking for a franchise quarterback, you go out and

596
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: sign a guy that you know has a foot injury,

597
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 5: that knees surgery before you signed the contract. These team doctors,

598
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: they do it. They perform physicals on every athlete that

599
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: is going it is going to another team before they

600
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: sign a contract. And I just don't understand how a

601
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: team doctor can pass a guy for a big contract

602
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: before a big contract and a team still signs them.

603
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: That does not happen. I don't understand what is going on.

604
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: But if you're a wide receiver or whatever, the or

605
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: cornerback or linebacker and they know that you need a

606
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: foot surgery before you sign a contract, ten out of

607
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 5: ten times that team is not going to that team

608
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 5: is not going.

609
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: To pass you on a physical to sign that contrast,

610
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: quarter you just spoke of the d hop and then

611
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers does it. He's a quarterback, Jimmy, he's a quarterback.

612
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: They just get away with things that other players can't

613
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: because every the Raiders right now are basically Jimmy g

614
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: or bust. We know this for a fact. He's gonna

615
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: miss games during the season. History has shown us that

616
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: how many, we don't know. But he's not playing in

617
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: a full season. Now you have this surgery. Who's the

618
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: backup Brian Hoyer. So let's hope that when he misses,

619
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: Brian Hoyer can win games. Because you've gone all in

620
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Speaker 3: with Jimmy G. And that's what Davontae Adams is speaking of,

621
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: like what are we doing? Like we went all in

622
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: with a quarterback that's not always available and then this

623
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: is our backup. We didn't even keep Stidham that hit

624
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: up the best defense in the league for like four

625
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: hundred yards passing, And so I don't know when Jimmy

626
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 3: G will be back. Yes, he'll be back before the season,

627
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: but as I said earlier, history is shown he not

628
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: playing a full season. And so that's the frustration with

629
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Speaker 3: Devonte Adams. Josh McDaniels wants Jimmy G because he had

630
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: him in New England, albeit many many years ago.

631
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Speaker 1: This I don't see it ending well.

632
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, you can't rely on I'm

633
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: a guy who's not available on a consistent basis.

634
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: You just can't do it.

635
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 5: And you're the Las Vegas Raiders. You get rid of

636
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: Darren Rawley to trade him to the New York Giants,

637
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: and make no mistake about it. When DeVante Adams left

638
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 5: Green Bay, he went to the Las Vegas Raiders to

639
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: play with Derek Carr.

640
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: And that was his understanding going forward.

641
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: He even said, listen, I have a better chance to

642
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: win the World Championship with the Las Vegas Raiders than

643
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 5: the Green Bay Packers right now, which I didn't believe.

644
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: But he went to the Raiders to play with his

645
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 5: homeboy that he played with in college, and now you

646
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: oust them after his first year. Devin has what fifteen

647
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: hundred yards, twelve touchdowns, whatever the case may be, had

648
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: a great season. You can't put all the blame on

649
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: Derek Carr for what happened with the radio season because

650
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 5: the first five or six games they lost by are

651
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: combining like twelve points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were winning those games. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: losing games by two point or two, like, oh, you

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Speaker 1: can't pick up pick comebacks like meltdowns basically yeah.

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Speaker 5: And you can't sit here and tell me that Jimmy

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Speaker 5: g is a tremendous upgrade from what Derek Carr was

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Speaker 5: on that offense. You can't make that justification to me,

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Speaker 5: especially knowing that the guy needs foot surgery, so you

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Speaker 5: might as well just stick with Derek Carr and hopefully

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Speaker 5: you can put out some of those games that you

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Speaker 5: had those meltdowns and you lose about one or two

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Speaker 5: points and now you're a whole different team in the

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Speaker 5: AFC West. But the plug in Jimmy g and you

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Speaker 5: just think all your problem is going to be fixed.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: That's Plexico Burrs, otherwise known as Stretch Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: That's a TJ.

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Speaker 4: Huschman Zada alongside him, known as a panteen Man. You know,

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Speaker 4: so they have superpowers. I'm LaVar Arrington and I just

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Speaker 4: like to spectator and see what color the wall is

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Speaker 4: going to be when they get done.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna take a quick break. And on the other side

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Speaker 4: of the break, John Grutin, you'd be interested to know

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Speaker 4: he made it visit to the Big Easy. Why did

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Speaker 4: he make that visit?

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Speaker 1: And what for?

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Speaker 4: And is uh our superhero duro? Are they okay with

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Speaker 4: what's taking place? I'm curious to hear about it. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you will be as well. Take a quick respite.

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Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break and on the

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Speaker 4: other side, we're going to discuss it.

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Speaker 1: This is up on game. We'll be right back. Uh

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Speaker 1: uh uh uh uh uh uh uh yeah, uh uh uh.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back. That's right up on game. We're live from

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Speaker 4: tyraq dot com studio. Listen, guys, your boy John Gruden,

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Speaker 4: he's back.

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Speaker 1: He's made.

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Speaker 4: He's made return to the National Football League, not as

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Speaker 4: a head coach, but to the New Orleans Saints facility

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Speaker 4: to help install the new offense that will be ran

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Speaker 4: in New Orleans next season. If you're current and up

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Speaker 4: on everything that is taking place and go on, not everything,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of the things that take place in

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Speaker 4: the NFL, you know that John Gruden was Derek Carr's

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Speaker 4: coach in in Vegas. So now he ends up going

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Speaker 4: into the Saints facility and he's helping car once again

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Speaker 4: offensive coaching staff under Dennis Allen. It's interesting that this

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Speaker 4: would take place.

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Speaker 1: Now. I take a tab bit of a different.

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Speaker 4: Angle on this news coming out knowing that you know,

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Speaker 4: John Grutin does have a lawsuit against the National Football

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Speaker 4: League and he was seemingly a scapegoat in the mess

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Speaker 4: of everything that was taking place with Dan Snyder and Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: Are you guys okay with just you know what what

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Speaker 4: we know about the emails and what was stated by

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Speaker 4: John Gruden. A lot of players don't think that John

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Speaker 4: Gruton is racist or or has said things that he

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Speaker 4: thinks that they were misinterpreted.

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Speaker 1: What's your take? I know we don't have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of time, but what's your take on it?

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Speaker 3: Are you guys? I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know John Gruden. I've met him obviously playing

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Speaker 3: against him, but I don't know John Gruden. So to

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Speaker 3: say he's this or that, I can't do that because

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Speaker 3: I don't personally know him. I know he's a hell

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Speaker 3: of a football coach, is a great offensive mine. He

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Speaker 3: coached Derek Carr. The Saints feel like he can help him.

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Speaker 3: They called him, he went in and hopefully he helped them.

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Speaker 3: But all the other stuff, his time in the NFL

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Speaker 3: is done. Once you start sewing the league, it's very rare.

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Speaker 3: That get very no. No Because I say rare because

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Speaker 3: Brian Fleur is a sewing the league and he's he's

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Speaker 3: still AFL.

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Speaker 1: That's why I say rare. But that's totally different. TJ.

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Speaker 5: We're talked about some of these language that this man

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Speaker 5: using is in these emails. You ain't got to know

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Speaker 5: him personally or not, but when you speak of things

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Speaker 5: of that nature, and it seems like everybody that is

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Speaker 5: supporting him are his former players.

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Speaker 1: That's true, but right right is wrong, is wrong.

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Speaker 5: Just like a LaVar said earlier, he should not be

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Speaker 5: able to walking to an NFL facility and install nothing.

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Speaker 1: So I totally disagree with it.

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Speaker 5: There seems to be a double standard with coaches, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: whatever the case.

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Speaker 1: We know that that's and it's just that's nothing new,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's.

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Speaker 5: Just a slap in the face to all these things

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Speaker 5: he had to say, and he shouldn't be allowed in all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well you've heard it here first. Maybe he should,

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Speaker 4: Maybe he should. I don't know, but I do know.

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Speaker 4: That's hour two of us on game. It's coming up

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Speaker 4: at your nex.