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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I'm there war room for incenter news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Dallas Cowboys Select Late and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a draft show back in the SWBC Mortgage studios

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Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco. After a very successful

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Speaker 1: combine in Indianapolis, we're all back here to talk about

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Speaker 1: it as the big Boys guy, says Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: here with David Hellman, Dane Brugler, Kent Garrison, executive producing guys.

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Speaker 1: Another combine in the books. Time for the Draft show

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Speaker 1: to put a bow on it. I also want to

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Speaker 1: tease something else. You need a little Twitter on the twenty, sure,

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Speaker 1: because I always want to do that, definitely, But I'm

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Speaker 1: also going to ask you, guys, how we're gonna trade

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Speaker 1: an impact player in the National Football League. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go through that and impact player in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League who could that be? Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: try and talk about the pros and cons of maybe

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Speaker 1: trying to move a guy. I don't know. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't go back and don't talk much about it, Dave,

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Speaker 1: No, No No, I just I don't go back through the

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Speaker 1: archives and listen the way Brian does. Like Brian goes

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Speaker 1: back and re listens to all of our shows. Every show. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would bet my life that we have a show

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Speaker 1: like this every every single year where Brian's like, let's

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Speaker 1: do something crazy. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, Well, I've got my

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Speaker 1: guys in the room and we're gonna figure this thing out.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. We're gonna figure it out. I've

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Speaker 1: got I've got some pros, I've got some cons. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna see if it's worth it to

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Speaker 1: you out there to move a particular player. With that

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Speaker 1: being said, though, I do want to put a bow

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Speaker 1: on this combine Dane Brugler, and I want to start

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Speaker 1: with you because you are on this from the word go.

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Speaker 1: Now you've done a great job of always covering the combine.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your efforts, the talents, the ability you have.

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Speaker 1: So when you tell me combine winners and combined losers,

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Speaker 1: I pay attention. And that's a guy, it's a twenty

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Speaker 1: seven year veteran in the National Football League. So with that,

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Speaker 1: tell me some guys that caught your eye that you

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Speaker 1: you know, you study the tape, you understand this league.

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Speaker 1: Who are some guys that helped themselves in this combine?

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Speaker 1: And what I like to do is have three categories

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Speaker 1: leaving and combine winners, losers, and shoot, I need to

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Speaker 1: go back to the tape. Yeah, and there were plenty

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Speaker 1: of guys in each category this year. The winners, I

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Speaker 1: think we start with Montest Sweat, who okay, tape check

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Speaker 1: production only Josh Allen has more sacks the last two

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Speaker 1: years from Kentucky than Montest Sweat. So production, check, testing,

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Speaker 1: double check, highlight bold. I mean, he blew up the

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Speaker 1: combine with what he did four four one and the

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Speaker 1: care about the ten yards split, the three cone and

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Speaker 1: that's where he blew it up. In the ten yards split.

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Speaker 1: That's comparable to Antonio Brown, Jalen Ramsey. Uh, the seven

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Speaker 1: flat and the three cones a great time. So Montes

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Speaker 1: Sweat went from a mid first round pick too. I'd

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, now in mock drafts, David Hellman, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this name is gonna be pushed up the board, isn't it. Well,

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Speaker 1: he already got that push at the Senior Bowl, which

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Speaker 1: but you know, we've proud of him for going to

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Speaker 1: do with the Senior Bowl stuff too. Yeah. Absolutely, he's

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Speaker 1: been a good been a good rise for him. He's

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Speaker 1: killing this whole thing. And there's always a guy that

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Speaker 1: down to where he should be. Right, this is not

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Speaker 1: as hell, looks like we're not falling in love with

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Speaker 1: a guy just because he's worked out. Well, the tape

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Speaker 1: is good for this guy, right, What did Dan just say? Yeah? No, absolutely, no,

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Speaker 1: be intact. But back in December, I did a top

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Speaker 1: But I think we're trending away from that discussion when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Montest Sweat. So no, Charlie Castley, I'm

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Speaker 1: a different pass rusher, but not with monthest Sweat. I think, okay,

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Speaker 1: greatest rivalry in sports, Michigan. Ohiuse State from Michigan. I

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Speaker 1: think Rashaun Garry had all the buzz in terms of

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Speaker 1: the Michigan defenders, but it was David Long the corner

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Speaker 1: who really impressed. Four four five and the forty solid time,

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Speaker 1: going back to the last two decades, it's the fourth

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Speaker 1: positional stuffs. His hips, his movements and reverse looked really smooth.

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Speaker 1: So I think David Long helped himself. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: on tape who doesn't have a lot of action. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he answered those concerns with how he worked out.

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Speaker 1: Boy a good looking group of guys on David Hillman.

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Speaker 1: all three Ohio state receivers were blazing in the forty

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Speaker 1: It'll be out on Monday, Paris. Campbell is going to

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Speaker 1: round receivers. Now we're talking about it at all. Where

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Speaker 1: we've been debating this whole time. Mock draft though, Right,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about these guys? Yeah? No, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of people were talking about this guy, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to hear you boost his draft stock. Are people looking

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Speaker 1: Are people looking at these Ohio State receivers and say, no,

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Speaker 1: who's the next guy? Well? I think that you know

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Speaker 1: that asking probably too much there, different style of player,

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Speaker 1: his best year he had like eight hundred yards receiving.

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Speaker 1: were all, you know, Dane. The thing that Dane wanted

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper with with that'd be fun a receiver that

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Speaker 1: with the receivers, we have to see Miles Boykin. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And now I think that was a shock to me.

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Speaker 1: He always also qualifies for they go back to the tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he gets in two categories. You're right. So for a

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Speaker 1: guy that's six four two twenty yeah, runs a four

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Speaker 1: four two. Uh, jumps were outstanding, the three Colne was outsanding.

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Speaker 1: Short line too. He plays athletic, Yeah, but he doesn't

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Speaker 1: He doesn't run with his pads like that. Right. He's

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Speaker 1: a fast guy, right, and he'll he'll make some impressive

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Speaker 1: adjustments to the football. You know, you can tell he's athletic.

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Speaker 1: On tape. Quarterback situation proved there too as well, but

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. That's true. It didn't have great production led

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Speaker 1: player to go back to the tape, but he helped himself.

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Speaker 1: He turned some heads with how he performed. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: add of winners. Are we still? I think two guys

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Speaker 1: in the offensive line Andre Dillard from Washington State. I

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Speaker 1: but I think there's a The Raiders earned that reputation

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Speaker 1: because most of those picks were bad picks like Darius

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Speaker 1: Hayward Bay not a similar player. Could this guy be

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Speaker 1: the biggest bus factor in the first round. I'm I'm asking,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking two names. Terrified of this guy? High risk,

427
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Speaker 1: high reward? Yeah, boom or bust. I think rare Shawn

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Speaker 1: Gary's in that conversation. Don't say that I love Gary.

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Speaker 1: I think that DK Metcalf's in that conversation. Sure, yeah,

430
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Speaker 1: I think that he would be uh, he would fit that.

431
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Speaker 1: So this guy makes me happy. The Cowboys don't have

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Speaker 1: a first round pick because you think they would take

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Speaker 1: this guy. No, they wouldn't, but not not because of

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Speaker 1: any of that. They just why do you need a

435
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Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round. I mean, you're gonna

436
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Speaker 1: bank on the big play potential. You're gonna focus on

437
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Speaker 1: what he can do and how special it is, and

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna hope for the best. This is

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Speaker 1: my this is my drop of twenty nine crap. You

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Speaker 1: boys are in the office. Your boys are Your team

441
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Speaker 1: has been struggling the last couple of years. You're both

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Speaker 1: couple of years. You're kind of on the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: A little bit. Are you taking this guy Metcalf? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is a point in the first round where I

446
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Speaker 1: would take him. Yes, I would not take him top

447
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Speaker 1: ten though, Okay, say, okay, you're Tampa, you're my guy

448
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Speaker 1: at Tampa. You're kind of you're kind of already have

449
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Speaker 1: a guy that runs straight. I'm just saying, though, you're

450
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Speaker 1: you're your GM that's on a hot seat. Yeah, you know,

451
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Speaker 1: a good draft. I guess what, fifty percent of first

454
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Speaker 1: round draft picks probably don't work out. So, yes, this

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Speaker 1: might gout. This guy might have higher bus potential, but

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Speaker 1: he has higher boom potential too. Wow, So at some

457
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Speaker 1: point in now I'm not taking him top ten, but

458
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Speaker 1: it's a lot more palatable after pick twenty. But like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Titans at nineteen and I'm looking for

460
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Speaker 1: every way to help Marcus Mariota, I thought, that's like

461
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Speaker 1: a pretty good guy with Davis a few years ago.

462
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Speaker 1: He really he's been okay, coming on, he's healthy, he's

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Speaker 1: on the field, he's been I'm saying, Okay, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm looking for that big play potential. And

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Speaker 1: if I'm a team like the Titans where I'm trying

466
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Speaker 1: to help out my quarterback, that would interest me. Does

467
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Speaker 1: he help your quarterback? Yes? I think he does. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I knew I could get you to say it. He's

469
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Speaker 1: a first round pick. It's just I think we need

470
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Speaker 1: to temper expectations with Oh, he's definitely top ten now

471
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's what we thought he was going in.

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Speaker 1: Really's fast, but really stiff. He's a late round, first

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Speaker 1: round pick for me. All Right, thank you for your

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right into it. Yeah. I'm actually really

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545
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Speaker 1: Mitchell wants to know does the tape match the athletic

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Speaker 1: traits for Kansas State running back Alex Barnes. It's funny

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Speaker 1: if you ask just a general college football fan who

549
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Speaker 1: led the Big twelve in rushing last year, how many

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Speaker 1: would say David Montgomery. It's a good guest here for

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma kid. Do we one of the Oklahoma's tray

552
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Speaker 1: sermon one of those guys? Uh? But it was this

553
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Speaker 1: kid Barnes from Kansas State, like thirteen hundred rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: He's a bigger guy. He's physical. He is not afraid

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Speaker 1: to drop his pads and run over you. They just

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Speaker 1: there were in a lot of open field runs on

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Speaker 1: his tape, so it was hard to see necessarily that athleticism.

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Speaker 1: But he has some burst to him. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he gets through the whole quickly. I didn't expect those numbers.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny he uh, talking to people that he

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Speaker 1: was training with his he had like a thirty eight

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Speaker 1: he's training with, he never got better than thirty five.

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Speaker 1: mean yeah great for hid scared he must have had

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Speaker 1: five oreos instead of four like one of Williams that morning.

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Speaker 1: But so good for him. He tested well. I don't

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Speaker 1: he also qualifies as a guy. You're going back to

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Speaker 1: watch the tape just to see if you know, you

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Speaker 1: do see a little bit more of that athleticism on

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Speaker 1: the field. But he definitely helped himself. Well, you're right

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Speaker 1: about that. The running stuff, even though they have you know,

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Speaker 1: a guy in a tackle you have to look at that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you preach act to guard your center, you know,

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Speaker 1: wherever you want to project him. Yeah, they just did

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Speaker 1: not have a lot of space to run, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean they were. There are a lot of times where

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Speaker 1: he's just running into a wall and you know, getting

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Speaker 1: what he can. So good for him for having the

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Speaker 1: workout that he did. Finishing up from the first segment,

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Speaker 1: CJ wants to know if Chichai Polite fell to fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: do you take that risk? And it's easy to dismiss

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Speaker 1: this because it's hard to imagine him falling that far.

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Speaker 1: And I know they're different positions, but I would have

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Speaker 1: I would have said the exact same thing about guys

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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, and there he was at fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be somebody's gonna slide and you're ready

589
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Speaker 1: and the interest of that, how would you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: And that's an interesting comparison because it's it's different than

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Speaker 1: like Randy Gregory, right, you know, Randy Gregory fell, which

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware, we we still don't know

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Speaker 1: what guys did that scared so many people off, right,

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Speaker 1: rolled with, you know, background, that kind of thing, just

596
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Speaker 1: it scared some teams away. And with Polite, it's just,

597
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Speaker 1: the maturity, the just way he handles himself. But you know,

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Speaker 1: can you trust him? You know? Yeah, if you can't

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Speaker 1: trust a player, you can't draft the player. So you

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Speaker 1: have to have some level of trust there. And if

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Speaker 1: this team can find that with him, then sure, roll

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Speaker 1: the dice at fifty eight and take him. But that

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Speaker 1: all low enough cost that you would do it. I

605
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Speaker 1: have to trust the player. I don't care it's seventh round.

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Speaker 1: I need to trust the player. Yeah, you guys are

607
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Speaker 1: talking right in my wheelhouse right now. Well, you know

608
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Speaker 1: Brian will do it. Yes, damn right, I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: And you don't even love the player. I have a second,

610
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Speaker 1: real great on the play. But he likes him a

611
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Speaker 1: lot more at fifty eighth than he would absolutely like

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Absolutely I do. And you know, and again

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Speaker 1: that's just I'm looking on ability and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But if if if guys like Dane Brugler and other

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Speaker 1: scouts are telling me brought us you need to go

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Speaker 1: back and look at this guy. You need to go

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Speaker 1: back and look at this You need to go back

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00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: and look at this guy. Okay, I don't have the

619
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Speaker 1: advantage in Dan's right, We don't have the advantage of

620
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Speaker 1: knowing all the off field stuff about him. I mean,

621
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Speaker 1: I wish I could go talk to the equipment manager

622
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: about this kid. I absolutely do. But if you're telling

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Speaker 1: fifty eight as you would do, Dave, come on, bring

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626
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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory at sixty and he had more. Clearly, his

627
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Speaker 1: baggage was a little bit more to deal with than

628
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Speaker 1: all that. So right, yeah, well, and taking that chance

629
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Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory is why this team's and a little

630
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Speaker 1: bit of a hole. Right, Yeah, Oh, you're absolutely right,

631
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Speaker 1: both negotiating with the Marcus Lawrence and trying to fill

632
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Speaker 1: that Jason Garrett said to him is you know, yeah,

634
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to worry about jam No, coach,

635
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to worry about me. It sounded

636
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: very convincing at the time. Yeah, and he won't be

637
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: the won't be the last. Trust me on that. Marcus says,

638
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: would you rather have Renell Wren or Kalen Saunders to

639
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: fensive tackles? We've talked a lot about. Oh, that's funny

640
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: because I was trying to mess with that right now. Well,

641
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I was working on this mock, and it's only a

642
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: first round mock, but I include the Cowboys and the

643
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: Saints in there because they don't have a first round pick,

644
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: and you haven't taken Ran. Didn't you take the Saunders?

645
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: You had Ran a couple of weeks ago, Yeah, I

646
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: want because I think he gives you kind of that

647
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: interchangeable He could play the three, he could play the nose,

648
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: he could help you out both spots. Really good athlete.

649
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: You love the makeup, you love just you don't love

650
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: the and you know, we know Will McClay traditionally doesn't

651
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: like the smaller school guys. But this is the type

652
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: of player where I hope you can overlook the dcal

653
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: and the helmet, the level of competition, you look at

654
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: the traits, You look at the player and say I

655
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: want him on my team. So Kaylin Saunders for me,

656
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: I think would be an excellent pick at fifty eight.

657
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: It's an interesting that's an interesting thought exercise because I mean,

658
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: they've been so good at drafting that I trust that

659
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: they would do that if they were put in that situation.

660
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: But they really haven't though. I mean you could, you know,

661
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: late and vander Esch, you can throw that out there

662
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: if you want to, but I don't. Boise States not

663
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: on that level. Boise States as good as a Nonpower

664
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: five program can be. So I would be curious to

665
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: see if that, you know, if that was the guy,

666
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: would they do it, because they really have avoided those

667
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: types of players in the last four or five, especially

668
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: like like the question asks compared to an Arizona State

669
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: right a player, absolutely, a guy who played right pack

670
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: twelve offensive lineman. Why am I just thinking give me

671
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: n because you play the Arizona State. No, I just

672
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: think he's a better player. Herm Edwards coached him up. Yeah,

673
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean there's some there's some rawness to rin. But man,

674
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: to me, there looks like if you you could, you

675
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: could hit on this guy. This guy, this guy. I mean,

676
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: I see a guy he's this guy's got so much

677
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: natural ability to play. The raw traits are for sure, Yeah,

678
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, a little tall out of his dance, But man,

679
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean he's got some power to him. You know,

680
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: talking with our Saudi buddy Dave, how'd that go? Our

681
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: Saudi scout overseas? He's he's on Wren. He I've got him.

682
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: I've got him watching the big fan. Yeah, big fan

683
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: of Wren. So absolutely, Okay, Um, this is this is

684
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: confirming my own personal bias. But I really enjoyed this

685
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: question from just for This Dane. Why is Hollywood Brown

686
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Marquis Brown not another John Ross? Well? First, A really

687
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: good question well, first, let's look at John Ross. What

688
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: why has John Ross been a bust up to this point?

689
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Injuries it's a big part of it, right yeah. Um,

690
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: And you know with Brown, he stayed healthy up until

691
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: the end of his career at Oklahoma. Unfortunately with the

692
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Liz Frank but a one hundred and sixty six pounds

693
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: has to worry you. He scares the crap out of it,

694
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: and as it should. Um, But I don't know, can

695
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: he Why can't he beat de Shawn Jackson instead of

696
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: John Ross? I don't know. Yeah, he could go, you know,

697
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: And you're right, I don't think there's really a clear

698
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: reason to say he's this or that, because we don't

699
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: know until he gets the NFL and you know, shows

700
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: that he can use that speed to equal production at

701
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: the NFL level. Until we see that, you know, it's unproven.

702
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, I get the concern

703
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: with John Ross. But okay, say say the say the

704
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: Bengals drafted John Ross in the early second round. We're

705
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: not talking about John Ross that much because it's just

706
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: unfortunately it didn't work out. But you know, in the

707
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: early second round it's a big difference in top ten

708
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: and we're not talking about Hollywood as a top ten pick.

709
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: We're talking about him probably in the early second round.

710
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: So if i'm I'm I've been more than willing to

711
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: roll the dice at that point. If I'm talking about

712
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: pick you know, thirty nine instead of nine overall that

713
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: is I mean, and yeah, I feel way better if

714
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: you're telling me pick forty two, that's fine. It's where

715
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about him, is like pick twenty one where

716
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm right. I think Jackson is an excellent comparison, by

717
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: the way. I think it makes perfect sense. And not

718
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: just the speed, the size, but DeShawn Jackson's such a

719
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: natural tracker of the football, oh gosh, yeah, the deep throw,

720
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's what Hollywood does. He is you see

721
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: him his ball judgment when the ball is in flight,

722
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: whether you know he understands how to slow his route

723
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: or speed up, you know, whatever he needs to do.

724
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: He gets underneath the football, completes the catch and finishes.

725
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: So I think the Deshaan Jackson Hollywood Brown comparisons are

726
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: just that they're almost clones. People on periscope want to

727
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: know what we think about a mina who I keep

728
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: asking about him to me everyby time I had asked

729
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: me about how is he possibly fifty eight? And I'm like, well,

730
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: that's a little rich for me. Yeah, I think so too.

731
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah at all. I want to say, y'all pegged him

732
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: kind of in the fourth round. Yeah, that's kind of

733
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: where I have him. You know. So if you're thinking

734
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: about a minute, if you're trying to think about a

735
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: replacement or guys are gonna draft, I don't think a

736
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: mena who at two or three is really a great option.

737
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: I think if you're talking about it more in the

738
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: fourth round, yeah, i'd give that a bet. I would

739
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: give that more credence. It's early in the process, so

740
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a firm grasp on how

741
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys feel about all that type of stuff, But

742
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't get the impression that they love him. In

743
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: What position would he play here? I think he's a

744
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: left defensive end myself. I know some teams are looking

745
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: at him as a three as a three tech. Yeah,

746
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: So it's just you know, I don't think he has

747
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: a set position in the pros, and I don't know.

748
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I think he's a solid roll guy, but I don't

749
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: think he's a three down starter. I don't think he's

750
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: going to give him much passionish value. Love the length,

751
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's things that coming tape. Yeah, sure,

752
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: but you know we're talking. We're talking about yeah, fourth

753
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: round or not a second round? Right there you go.

754
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: Thanks for the question of periscope. By the way, I

755
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: appreciate that Dane already. Dane just gave this away with

756
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: his most recent monch. But that's okay, because Sean wants

757
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: to know. Can each of you tell us who your

758
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: guy would be at fifty eight right now? Just give

759
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: me a guy. Don't think too hard. You're going Kaylen

760
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: Saunders Dane is Yeah for Kylen Saunders. N we're now Reren,

761
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah Ren? Okay, O're a pass rusher. Well, I think

762
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a better shot of me having a

763
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: better defensive tackle there at fifty eighth than a than

764
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: than a pass rusher. Let's say DeAndre Walker. Okay, let

765
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Okay, call your maybe how close

766
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: is that going to be? The TCU N Yeah, I'm

767
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Day's Did his combine change your opinion

768
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: at all? I love his tape, I agree, but I'm

769
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: asking did his combine worry you at all because his

770
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: three colne was really really bad? Does that concern you

771
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: at all? Does that you know you're just trusting the

772
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: tape and trusting the tape there? Okay, you know I

773
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: love the guys like Walker Georgia. I think, is I

774
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: wish Ferguson. There's no way Ferguson makes it to me

775
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech by the way, to Ferguson make it to

776
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: me at fifty eight, that would be pretty surprising. Can

777
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: I still get Okay? I think that there's gonna be

778
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: better defensive tackles. Then there you know what's gonna happen

779
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: with Tillary. The scouts hate him, don't they? Something's wrong

780
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: with him? When you say when you say Hillary, everybody

781
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of goes uh. He posted ah, he posted a

782
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: photo coming off his shoulder curtainery. He does not look

783
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: like a like. He looks light. He looks like an

784
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: offensive tack that much like. He does not And that's

785
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: what he was in height or when he went to

786
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Does not have a ton of bulk. No,

787
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I don't know. Hillary is a guy that again,

788
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: all it takes is one team to gamble on the talent.

789
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, teams, there's a lot of teams. You just

790
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: don't let me ask you this, y'all shout about that.

791
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: Would you take? Okay, if you think about wide receivers,

792
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: which those wide receivers would you take at fifty eight?

793
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: If you had to have been saying devo for months?

794
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Is Samuel too rich? I cant him in the third?

795
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: You're basically in the third. You're five picks away from

796
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the third. You're not wrong, You're not wrong, which, well, okay, Dan,

797
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: you think about that, which you've mocked him here before.

798
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: Do you still you know, a month and a half later,

799
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: do you still feel okay about Jonathan Abram at fifty eight? Oh? Yeah,

800
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: I think John than Abram go in the first I

801
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: would yeah, yeah, I would take him. I might love

802
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: John then Abram. You don't want to buy into the

803
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: Danes talking about how mature he is and all that,

804
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: married as a kid. Yeah he is. You don't want

805
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: to You don't want to buy into the smoke screens completely.

806
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: But my confidence that the Cowboys are going to invest

807
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: in safety and free agency is at an all time low. Oh,

808
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: there's no question. So Abram can play in the box

809
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: and let Xavier Woods play free and let's go. I

810
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: love the competitive nat. Just throw on the watch the

811
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: egg bowl, you know, throw on the tape. How close

812
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: do you have him in Rap Rap Washington? Sorry, I

813
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: have well, I have an adderly one like top free

814
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: safety and then RAP two and then Abram. I think

815
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: both those guys are they're they're fairly close. I like

816
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Rap a lot. I do too. Both those guys are

817
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: top fifty. If you gave me a choice between Rap

818
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: and Abraham taking Rap, how how similar are they? Rap

819
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: is the better athlete, a much better athlete, and he's

820
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: just he's so dang smart. But Abram is a wood layer.

821
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's what I want. He especially,

822
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean, Woods can play free safety, so I want

823
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: sure that guy. That's I mean. I think that Rap

824
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: can do that too, just not on the same level.

825
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: I think he's where he gets the edge is his

826
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: instincts and his ability to cover ground. I mean, he

827
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: could do just a little bit of everything. He's really

828
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: good in like every area, just not great in any area.

829
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: So you know there's value in that. Um With Abram,

830
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: you do worry about him and holding him in coverage,

831
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, can he play man to man It gets

832
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: a tight end. Yeah, when he's coming downhill, when he's

833
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: blitz and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean watching on

834
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: special teams. I mean he's a headhunter. He takes guys

835
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: and decletes them. So I love the energy, love the competitiveness. Um,

836
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: bring him on. Are you talking about rap I'm talking

837
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: about I'll fight for rap here. Yeah, No, exactly. I

838
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: mean this guy. This guy plays in coverage, he plays

839
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: all over the formation. He could time blitzes. I mean,

840
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not afraid to stick his nose in

841
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: the action. He's a form tackler. I mean reacts quick.

842
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Speaker 1: I mean these are all notes I'm saying angles to

843
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Speaker 1: the football. He doesn't miss tackle. This guy's a tough player.

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Speaker 1: He is. I mean that's I mean, he plays in

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Speaker 1: your line. That kind of talks to what you're asking about, Dave.

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Speaker 1: If you could play woods the back, let's play wrap

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Speaker 1: sounds like a really kind of cool deal, regardless of

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Speaker 1: who it is. Like, that's what I would think that

850
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: they would do with any safety that they draft. Yeah. Yeah,

851
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: and you think about all the secondary guys that Washington

852
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Speaker 1: has pumped out Jimmy Lake. Their defensive coordinator said, this

853
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Speaker 1: guy's the smartest guy I ever coached. I like it, Dave.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to quit there because I have yet time. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get We got into some because I gotta

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913
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and trade a football player today. But

914
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: you got what what are you thinking? Brian? I wonder

915
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: who might you possibly be trying to get rid of? Well, again,

916
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: we're trying to do some We're all about investigating educate here.

917
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: So again I need to look at all possibilities. I'm

918
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: looking at the possibility that I cannot sign the Marcus

919
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence to a long term extension. Okay, I'm looking at

920
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: forty four days now until the NFL Draft. Can't do

921
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: it or don't want to do it. I can't. I'm

922
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: having trouble getting it done. But I'm running out of days. Okay,

923
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and take these forty four days and

924
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and sign him. But we need to

925
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: come up with a plan in case we can't sign him,

926
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: in case it just turns into something that you know what,

927
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: it is not going to get done. We're too far apart. Again,

928
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: this is all about radio and stuff like that. These

929
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: guys are working hard every day. I'm sure both sides

930
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: are doing the best it can. But for our little

931
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: group here, we're in a little bit of a bind

932
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: and I need to figure it out. Is it would

933
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: be worth our trouble to try and trade this guy?

934
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Can't we can, Dane, as you as my director or

935
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: player personnel. Can I Can you find me a guy?

936
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: You know? Can you find me a guy, Dave, I'm

937
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: gonna need you to help me make this trade, though,

938
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I'll do my best. I'm gonna under protest. Yes, I'm

939
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: gonna go to a team that has one hundred and

940
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: eight million dollars and actually a hundred and six million

941
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space right now, Dane, you know the

942
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: general manager very very well, and mister Ballot mister ball Yeah.

943
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, Indianapolis currently holds the

944
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: twenty sixth pick in this draft. They currently also hold

945
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: pick thirty four and pick fifty nine in the second round. Okay,

946
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking this might be a possibility for

947
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: me to trade him to a team that a has

948
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: the cap space and be he has picks that I

949
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: might like to partake in. I'd love to have number

950
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: twenty six. I'd really love to have number thirty four.

951
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: I would really like to have number fifty nine. To

952
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: be honest, too, I don't think I could get all three.

953
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: But we need to make a determination. Do we take

954
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: twenty six and fifty nine and just go with it,

955
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: or do we take twenty six and try and get

956
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: thirty four out of these guys? Or do we just

957
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: look at thirty four and fifty nine. There's also there's

958
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: something else you want to consider too, And you know

959
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: we talked about this before the show. Are you going

960
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: up like, are you making this deal with the It's

961
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: not like you've got a draft a defensive end to

962
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: replace tank because you lose arguably your best player, certainly

963
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: one of your best three players, and you're basically out

964
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: of pass rushers. If you do this, are you doing

965
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: the trade simply to have a haul of picks to

966
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: replenish your team, or are you doing it with the

967
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: notion like, if we're getting rid of this guy, we

968
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: have to draft another. We're gonna try and parlay this.

969
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: And I know people on periscope are saying, why not

970
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: go the Jets. I'm trying to send him to a

971
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: place where I know the defensive coordinator knows the player well.

972
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: Plus you're to facilitate the trade. I'm trying to make

973
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: this as easy although as possible. The Jets are going

974
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: to be running a four or three under Greg Williams.

975
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: That's right. It's worth keeping in mind. It is worth

976
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: keeping and for this sake, for this exercise, I'm gonna

977
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: look at I'm gonna look at it. I'm looking at

978
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: the Colts just because the familiarity with the player, with

979
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator exactly Mattie Eberflows is a great point.

980
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Also because you have a team with a lot of

981
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: cap room, right, you have a team with a general

982
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: manager who is not afraid to think outside the box.

983
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: That's exactly not afraid to take chances. That's exactly right.

984
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: And you have a team with the Colts that has

985
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: multiple picks in the first two rounds. That's success. The

986
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Jets don't have. I say, yeah, the Jets for the

987
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: same car. Second round pick the Jets. The Jets pick

988
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: at three, they don't pick again until sixty eight, which

989
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: is in the third round, and then ninety three. So

990
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate you. On periscope of jetting value

991
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: from the cults as far higher. I picked the team

992
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: and I thought that would be the easiest to try

993
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: and facilitation it is realistic, Okay, Dave. Yeah, Colts want

994
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: to offer me twenty six and fifty nine, do I

995
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: need to fight for that thirty four? Because if I

996
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: get twenty six and fifty nine, I'm looking at I'm

997
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: looking about at one hundred and I'm looking at ten

998
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: ten on my numbers, which would put me right around

999
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: in the fifteenth pick of the each draft. Fortunately for us,

1000
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: this just happened. Yeah, this, I mean this trade, A

1001
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: very similar trade just happened when Oakland sent Khalil Mack

1002
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: to Chicago. Yeah, Oakland got back. They got back two firsts,

1003
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: which isn't very nice, and I mean there were some

1004
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: there's a third involved in a sixth. But the meat,

1005
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: the meat of this thing was that Oakland sent this

1006
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: year's first and next year's first to the Bears, and

1007
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: the Bears sent back next year's second. Right, So in

1008
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: it's I mean, so really we'll see how the picks

1009
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: line up. But Oakland, they gave up two first and

1010
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: they get back a second, So I think that mitigates

1011
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: it a lot. So basically, the point I'm trying to

1012
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: make is I think it's unrealistic with that, with that

1013
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: format in mind, I think it's unrealistic that you could

1014
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: expect to get twenty six and thirty four for anybody,

1015
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: because I think the world of DeMarcus Lawrence, I think

1016
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack's a little bit better of a player. Yeah,

1017
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: so if you can't get twenty six and thirty four

1018
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: for Mac, it's unrealistic for me to think you could

1019
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: get that for tank Am I crazy. And to get

1020
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: value is all only what a team's willing to pay. True,

1021
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: So you know, it doesn't matter. If you want to

1022
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: use the Mac deal as a kind of a starting point,

1023
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: that's great, but it doesn't really matter, right, It's not

1024
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: like you're locked into that because that's the way that

1025
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: trade went. And there might be one team that's really

1026
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: seriously considering a trade, So you have to kind of

1027
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: work around their parameters. And I think you have to

1028
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: try to get a third pick, maybe it's a third

1029
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: rounder next year. Yeah, you know, I think you have

1030
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: to try and get that third pick. But you know,

1031
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get twenty six and thirty four,

1032
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be twenty six to fifty nine. Then

1033
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: you try to get that third pick. I will, Okay,

1034
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: what about this? So would you rather let's say you

1035
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: can get twenty six and fifty nine, did you rather

1036
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: send Tank to Indy for twenty six and fifty nine

1037
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: or would you rather go after that third pick? But

1038
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: you have to chip in a pick as well, whether

1039
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: it's this year or next year, like let's say to

1040
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: the Jets or to the Colts. So you get twenty

1041
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: six fifty nine and twenty six fifty nine and a fourth,

1042
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: but then you send Tank and next year's third. I mean,

1043
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: does that mean I think I'd rather just have the

1044
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: two picks and send the player. I would rather I would?

1045
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: I think I would rather have the two picks and

1046
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: the players. Because if you, if you can, okay, say

1047
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: they're not interested in giving us thirty four, you know that.

1048
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna try, yeah, But say they come

1049
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: back with fifty nine, so we need to parlay. Then

1050
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: we could parlay twenty six fifty eight our own and

1051
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: fifty nine, and that will give us thirteen. That will

1052
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: give us thirteen thirty on the points, thirteen thirty on

1053
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: the on the chart, get you the top ten at ten? Ten?

1054
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: This is okay, This is Brian's real genius slash madness

1055
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: is He's trying to do this deal and then quickly

1056
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: turn around and turn that into a deal to get

1057
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: into the top ten. I am, I'm trying. I'm trying that.

1058
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying like hell, though, I'm trying to try like

1059
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: hell if I don't care if now my my again,

1060
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: I have to be aggressive here to try and make

1061
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: this because all right, Dane, I'm trusting you now because

1062
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: you're my director. Can I get and you've always told

1063
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: me this, and you're absolutely right. I'm not trading for

1064
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: a position. I'm trading for a player at ten. If

1065
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: I could pull this trade off, if I could pull

1066
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: this trade off at ten, can I get a player

1067
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: that can help me at defensive end this year? I

1068
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: think that you can probably get Brian Burns, who is

1069
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: a flexible, bendy ed rusher, a lot of athleticism. Okay,

1070
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some hiccups versus the run Florida State. Yes,

1071
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm giving up a guy. I'm giving up a guy

1072
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: that can play the run. Yeah, And I'm giving up

1073
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: a guy that could play that it can rush the

1074
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: pair giving up a guy that can do everything. If

1075
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: you're trading up to number ten, I think the two

1076
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: pass rushers you're looking at are Burns and Cleveland Farrell

1077
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: from Clumbs. Okay, but both has clearly gone. Yes, Gary

1078
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: is clearly gone, and then most likely and then Sweat

1079
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: as well. Right and okay, So you're trading up for

1080
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: a defensive end. That's it can't no other position, right,

1081
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: That's and that's kind of my That's why I said

1082
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: that is Obviously trading to Marcus Lawrence screws you in

1083
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: terms of being able to rush. That's that's what I'm john.

1084
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: John Gruden can probably tell you all about that. Yeah,

1085
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times he said after losses

1086
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: last year, like we just can't get to the court.

1087
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: I wonder why I want to feel good for all

1088
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: my effort, but I'm trying to do here. I think

1089
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: you're probably screwing yourself if you do this and like

1090
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: locking yourself into trying to immediately replace him. Obviously that's

1091
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: what you would prefer, but how often does a draft

1092
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: board really fall that way? Are you saying? Then, Okay,

1093
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna try, and if you're

1094
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna do this, you better be willing to just make

1095
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: the most of what you get out of it instead

1096
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: of just saying Montez sweater bust. Because if that doesn't

1097
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: work out, then you're up ass creek. Okay, So with

1098
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: not okay, thinking of that, not replace them? Then I

1099
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: go for the tight end. I trade for Hackinson to

1100
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: see my guy, I go in a different direction. Okay,

1101
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: who do you got? I think that this team would

1102
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: love to add at Oliver to the defensive line. Oh

1103
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: I think you would be the perfect Rod Marinelli. Okay,

1104
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: technique that put a smile on my face. There to

1105
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: get your interior pressure, I mean you're losing outside pressure

1106
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: on the edges. Okay, at ten, I can get him,

1107
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: for sure, right, not for sure, but probably probably more

1108
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: likely than what if? What if I can only what

1109
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: if I can only get to fourteen? What if I

1110
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: can't get if I can't pull this thing together? I

1111
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: can we get to fourteen? I can only take I

1112
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: can only take my I've had Oliver going fourteen right

1113
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: now to the Falcons at number fourteen. So if you've

1114
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: got twenty six thirty four and fifty eight all. I'm

1115
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: sorry if you've got twenty six, fifty eight and fifty

1116
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: nine all at your disposal, Yeah, you ought to be

1117
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: able to get up there if you're if you're determined,

1118
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: i'd think so, if you're determined enough, do you know why?

1119
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: Why am I? Why are you scared? Now? Not? Not

1120
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: at all? Okay, not at all. I'm intrigued by what

1121
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: he just said. I mean, I still rather have Tank,

1122
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: but I whether pass a little bit. Maybe I was

1123
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: told this, but I think this team really leaks at

1124
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: Oliver and if they have a chance to get him.

1125
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: This team hasn't had a true badass undertackle in the

1126
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: entire time that Rod Marine Orphan, the coach. It's about

1127
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: the orphans. They were optimistic about Henry Melton, that didn't

1128
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: really work out. MALIEK. Collins had a pretty nice rookie

1129
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: season doing it. Uh, but they haven't had that guy,

1130
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: yeah the whole time he's been here. So that is uh, Yeah,

1131
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: that's interesting and okay, but you're still as fun as

1132
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: that sounds, You're still putting him on a line that

1133
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: no longer has the mark. Your no question currently does

1134
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: not have Randy Gregor. You're gonna you're to do some patchwork. Yeah,

1135
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: your ends are gonna be Dorance Armstrong and Crawford Crawford. Yeah,

1136
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean maybe you signed Dion Jordans, Maybe you sign

1137
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe can you can you get Dante Fowler

1138
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: for That's what I'm saying. Can you get Dante Fowler

1139
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: for a year? Oh so so so yeah, that made me.

1140
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: That made me like, Okay, So when when Brian pitched

1141
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: this segment, I was like, shut up, we're not I

1142
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do this. Yeah. No, that was good.

1143
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: I like that. So so the likelihood, the likelihood what

1144
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: you just told me is my director is that, hey boss,

1145
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: we can go get a defensive tackle. I can't assure

1146
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: you the defensive end end. That's fair. Yeah, I would

1147
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: rather have Oliver than any of the two defensive ends

1148
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: you talked to when you said birds. That's well, that's

1149
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: and that's why again, that's why you can't pigeonhole yourself

1150
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: into that, because basically, if we're doing that deal for

1151
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: an end and it's anybody but Bosa or Sweat, I

1152
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. And that seems really unlikely.

1153
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: But I like that honestly, even with even with Jason Witten.

1154
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be as excited, but like I mean, I

1155
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: could do Hockinson too. I could do that for Hockinson.

1156
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be as excited about it, but it would

1157
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: make sense. Yeah, who who would Who would help us more? Oh?

1158
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: Right now? The Hawkerson or Oliver, especially if you don't

1159
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: have a freaking all pro left end. Yeah, you'd have

1160
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: to say Oliver in terms of this year at least

1161
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: so so Cowboy fans. If you're looking at this, it

1162
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't be for the defensive end like I was trying

1163
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: to get. It should be for the defensive tackle. Okay,

1164
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: or Tidy? Get an impact player. You're going to get

1165
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: a player. Yes, it's at Oliver who you're going to get.

1166
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: That's a bebbe on the table. Yeah. Let me ask

1167
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: you this. You love getting rid of our picks. You

1168
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: don't want us to have picks. Me and Dane like

1169
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: having picks. Would you do this deal and more than

1170
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: likely stand pat and have twenty six, fifty eight and

1171
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: fifty nine to just get three chances to you know,

1172
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: hit a home run. You're just about you're getting rid

1173
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: of tank. You're not worrying in the short term, you know, Okay,

1174
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: you get a journey. Let's say, could you get you

1175
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: could get maybe IRV Smith with that twenty six? Couldn't you?

1176
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: Or could you get fanned? Could you get? How close

1177
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: is that going to be? Can we move up? When it?

1178
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Can we move up? But we got a compensed story? Four?

1179
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: What about Earth? Yeah, IRV, I think we'll be there. Yeah,

1180
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: I think you could get Earth. Okay, so you could theoretically,

1181
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: well all right, I don't want to throw out specific names,

1182
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: but let's just okay, you get rid of to Marcus Lawrence. Yeah. Again,

1183
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: purely this is spitballing. You sighed Vinny Curry to like

1184
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: an affordable deal to come on and play it for you.

1185
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Then you add IRV Smith, Jonathan Abram and uh your

1186
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: boy Kaylen Saunders. So you hit three big positions of

1187
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: need with three picks, and your defensive in spot's definitely

1188
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: not as good, but at least you don't have a

1189
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: pissed off all pro who's not at OTAs. So who

1190
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: would you rather have? IRV Smith, Jonathan Abrahm, Kaitlyn Saunders

1191
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 1: or at Oliver. Uh? That's tough. That is that's really tough.

1192
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: Is you know what you know what I'm gonna say,

1193
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: Give me the three players. WHOA, that's not that's not

1194
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: what I expect. Give me the three players. Give me

1195
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: the three I think I give me them. Give me

1196
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: more chances, because like, even as good as the Cowboys

1197
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: are drafting, they're probably not going to be provo all.

1198
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: They're not all three gonna be provole. Give me. I'm okay,

1199
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay with Smith. I'm trusting you on on a

1200
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: Abram because I've seen the work of him. Saunders, Okay,

1201
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: you know you hit your three better, but you know, yeah,

1202
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: but you hit him, you hit all three. You made it.

1203
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: You You took an all pro, a top probably a

1204
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: top five defensive player in this league. Would you say,

1205
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: top ten at least pass top fifteen, yeah, top yeah,

1206
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: top five pass rush for three players that you know,

1207
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: and the financial flexibility to go sign your other players. Okay,

1208
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: oh good point. All right, Well, with all that in mine,

1209
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: would you rather have all that or DeMarcus Lawrence? Give

1210
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: me Lawrence. I'm not I'm gonna figure out a way

1211
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: to keep my on my team. I think I think

1212
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, So so when we get close to

1213
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: actual draft day and again we're gonna we're gonna do

1214
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: our best to keep lawns. To reiterate, to reiterate my

1215
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: point is. I mean, that's all great, but this team's

1216
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: trying to take the next step, or that's what they

1217
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: tell us, and you're not doing that by shipping DeMarcus Lawrence.

1218
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: You're just not not in the short term. All right, guys,

1219
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: that's fun, good idea. Appreciate you guys to stuff. That's

1220
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: a draft show for another week. We'll be back next week.

1221
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: We continue to investigate and educate for my buddies. Dave Burglar,

1222
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: David Hellman, Kate Garsign, Brian brought us. We'll see you

1223
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: next week with more as we get closer to our

1224
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: date in Tennessee. You guys, take care