WEBVTT - Tiffany Crowns and Terrible Execs

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>where the big money DJ powered party paddock track meets

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<v Speaker 1>were when we still had wheels and two functioning Achilles.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's show, we'll be unpacking the WNBA Playoffs, looking

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to a finals rematch in the Semis, and calling

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<v Speaker 1>in a favor from a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus what the fact that will make your blood boil?

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<v Speaker 1>It's all coming up right after this. Welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you need to know today. Two more first

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<v Speaker 1>round series in the books, and that makes it a

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<v Speaker 1>clean sweep for all four top seeds. In the first

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<v Speaker 1>round of the WNBA Playoffs, Connecticut Sun eliminated the Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>Fever with an eighty seven to eighty one victory in

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<v Speaker 1>the early game, and the Minnesota Links finished off the

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix Mercury with a one oh one eighty eight win

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<v Speaker 1>in the late game. The Fever Sun game had everything

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<v Speaker 1>a fan that Caitlin Clark had to get security to

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<v Speaker 1>put in time out. Clark and Dwana Bonner get into

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of feisty exchanges, a scary moment where Erica

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<v Speaker 1>Wheeler flew into a cameraman, but did return to play

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<v Speaker 1>a Marina the Dog Maybury Dagger three at the end

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<v Speaker 1>and some more insane stat lines from who else but

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<v Speaker 1>Alyssa Thomas. Thomas had nineteen points, thirteen assists, and five rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>She now has just the second game in WNBA playoff

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<v Speaker 1>history with fifteen plus points, thirteen plus assists, and five

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<v Speaker 1>plus rebounds. She also had the first one last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and per ESPN stats at Info, Thomas's twenty six assists

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<v Speaker 1>in the series ty with Sueberd in twenty twenty for

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<v Speaker 1>the most assists over a two game span within a

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<v Speaker 1>postseason all time. On the other side, a much better

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<v Speaker 1>game from Caitlin Clark in the loss. She put up

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five points, nine assists, and six boards. Via ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>Stats and Info, Clark became just the second rookie in

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA postseason history with at least twenty points, five rebounds

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<v Speaker 1>and five assists, joining her hero Maya Moore, who did

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<v Speaker 1>it in twenty eleven. Clark's team, Adaliah Boston had sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>points and nineteen boards, becoming the second youngest player in

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA playoffs history with fifteen plus points and fifteen plus

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds in a postseason game. Trailing only Candice Parker. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure sad to see the Fever season end, but an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible year for last year's last place team. I see

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of success in their future, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>arrested Kitlin Clark. And according to Wednesday night's ESPN broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to take some time to rest this offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>which means likely no Overseas league and no Unrivaled. We

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<v Speaker 1>were actually wondering if we were going to see that

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<v Speaker 1>announcement drop anytime soon about her joining Unrivaled, and it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out Indiana Fever gm Lyn Dunn revealed on one

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven five the Fans Wake Up Call show a

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<v Speaker 1>few months ago that Kaitlyn was invited to Unrivaled, but

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<v Speaker 1>she said at the time she thought Caitlyn preferred to

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<v Speaker 1>get more five on five reps. So could we see

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<v Speaker 1>her join AU basketball That's just a four week season,

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<v Speaker 1>could still get some reps in Caitlin and Nashville would

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<v Speaker 1>be very fun. We'll keep you updated on that. One

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<v Speaker 1>more thing about this series I think is worth noting.

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<v Speaker 1>In the postgame presser, Alisa Thomas was asked about her

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<v Speaker 1>son team staying professional in the face of racism and

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<v Speaker 1>threats from social media users and alleged fans during the series.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's some of what Thomas had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it's been a lot of nonsense. I think in

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<v Speaker 3>my eleven year career, I've I've never experienced the the

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<v Speaker 3>racial comments from the India and the Fever fan base.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unacceptable, honestly, And yeah, there there's no place for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've been professional throughout the whole entire thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>I I've I've never been called the things that I've

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<v Speaker 3>been called on on social media and and and there's

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<v Speaker 3>no place for it. And and you know, basketball is

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<v Speaker 3>headed in in in a great direction, but we we don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want fans that are are gonna degrade us

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<v Speaker 3>and call us racial names. I mean, we already see

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<v Speaker 3>what what's happening in the world and and what we

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<v Speaker 3>have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>In that aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we come to play basketball for our

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<v Speaker 3>job and it's fun, but we don't wanna go to

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<v Speaker 3>work every day and and and have social media blown

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<v Speaker 3>up over over things like that. It's it's it's uncalled

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<v Speaker 3>for and something needs to be done, whether it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>them checking their fans or this league checking it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's no time for it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's necessary to give you an example

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<v Speaker 1>of just how graphic and horrific these messages have been,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the direction of djn A Carrington, who accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>caught Kitlin Clark in the ie in game one of

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<v Speaker 1>the series. Before the game, Carrington shared to her Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>an email she received, and I'm warning you about the

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<v Speaker 1>language here, but I think it's necessary to share the

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<v Speaker 1>email read quote worthless N word bitch. I hope someone

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<v Speaker 1>rapes you and cuts your head off. All over social

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<v Speaker 1>media there are things like that and just awful things

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<v Speaker 1>being said, in particular to the Sun, A team opposing

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<v Speaker 1>Kaitlyn Clark's fever. Now, Kaitlin Clark is not to blame

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<v Speaker 1>for this, but it is something that the league finally

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<v Speaker 1>felt they should address. After this game, the WNBA put

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<v Speaker 1>out a statement that read, the WNBA is a competitive

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<v Speaker 1>league with some of the most elite athletes in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>While we welcome a growing fan base, the WNBA will

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<v Speaker 1>not tolerate racist, derogatory or threatening comments made about players, teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and anyone affiliated with the league. League security is actively

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring threat related activity and will work directly with teams

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<v Speaker 1>and arenas to take appropriate measures to include involved law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement as necessary. Now it feels like that statement is

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<v Speaker 1>a few days, if not weeks too late, but better

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<v Speaker 1>late than never. After the game, Fever coach Christie Sides

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<v Speaker 1>also made a statement about how there is absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>place for these players who are going to work and

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<v Speaker 1>doing their best to be receiving this kind of treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>To the late game where the Minnesota Links managed to

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<v Speaker 1>finish off the Phoenix Mercury one oh one eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>behind a fist at Collier. Picking up where she left

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<v Speaker 1>off in Game one, she put up twenty three points

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half and finished with forty two in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, tying a WNBA playoff record some truly ipop

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<v Speaker 1>and stats for Fee thanks to across the timeline first

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<v Speaker 1>player with back to back thirty five point games in

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA playoffs history. First player was seventy three plus points

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<v Speaker 1>in a two game span in a WNBA postseason. Fee

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<v Speaker 1>was cash money all night long. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>Britney Grinder was all but unstoppable and they got it

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<v Speaker 1>tour in the paint and she put up twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, but the Mercury simply couldn't get enough

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<v Speaker 1>stops on defense. Points off, turnovers were a hiller for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had no answer for the Links half court

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<v Speaker 1>offense either. Twenty eight team assists for the Links in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, a truly well oiled machine. This from across

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline again. In the two game series, the Links

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<v Speaker 1>had fifty eight assists on sixty eight field goals made.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eighty five point three percent of makes assisted down

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best mark over a two game span in

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA Playoffs history. Like Game one, Khalia Copper was slowed

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<v Speaker 1>down by foul trouble, she had thirteen in the lost

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<v Speaker 1>Natasha Cloud sixteen points and ten boards, and in what

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<v Speaker 1>might have been the final game of her incredible career,

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<v Speaker 1>Dina Trossi put up ten points. If she's done, she

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<v Speaker 1>leaves sitting in first place all time in points, field

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<v Speaker 1>goals made, and three pointers made, second in games played,

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<v Speaker 1>and fourth in assists. So much more to say about

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<v Speaker 1>Diana Trossi if she lets us know in the coming days, weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>or months that this was indeed it. Seeing Diana walk

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<v Speaker 1>off the court to a standing ovation from the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>crowd in fact, you know, seeing all these teams done

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<v Speaker 1>for the year, I'm not ready. I'm not ready to

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<v Speaker 1>say goodbye. Fans need a chance to see their squad

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<v Speaker 1>at home in the postseason at least once. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think these lower seeded teams need a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to make some money off a home playoff game or two.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to give to Twitter RTIs and shout

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<v Speaker 1>out on this show to this. Shay Serrano tweet, he wrote, WNBA,

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<v Speaker 1>the first round should be best of five. This best

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<v Speaker 1>of three nonsense is nonsensical. Please do something about this

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<v Speaker 1>at FBI, at the Rock, at Michelle Obama, someone, anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Shay is right, Michelle, we need you help us. In

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA Awards news, it's official. Connecticut Sun guard Dja Carrington

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<v Speaker 1>is the WNBA's most improved Player. It's the terry. On

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<v Speaker 1>top of the best regular season of her career, Carrington,

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<v Speaker 1>in her fourth year in the league, average a career

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<v Speaker 1>high twelve point seven points, five rebounds, one point six assists,

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<v Speaker 1>and one point five to six deals. The Stanford alum

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty eight of the sixty seven votes for the award,

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<v Speaker 1>with Dereka Hamby of the Sparks receiving eighteen and Bridget

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<v Speaker 1>Carlton of the Thanks getting fifteen to round out the

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<v Speaker 1>top three senior at a seat belt, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive guards in the league has been doing her

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<v Speaker 1>job in a variety of ways, which keeps the main thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing, locking opponents up. That's where that seat

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<v Speaker 1>belt celebration she does got its inspiration, and now that

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<v Speaker 1>playoff NAY is activated, she's showing no signs of slowing down.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to Dja Carrington. More w News. Kurt Miller is

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<v Speaker 1>out as head coach of the Los Angeles Sparks. The

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<v Speaker 1>franchise announced the move on Tuesday, after Miller's second season

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<v Speaker 1>with the team. While the Sparks were twenty five and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five during Miller's time at the Helm, the move

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<v Speaker 1>still came as a shock, seeing that Miller was brought

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<v Speaker 1>in to rebuild a struggling franchise and the player spoke

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<v Speaker 1>very highly of his leadership. The team was plagued with injury,

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<v Speaker 1>including an absolute killer to star rookie Cameron Brink, and

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<v Speaker 1>most assumed he'd be given more time to turn things around,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since Miller was the WNBA Coach of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen with the Connecticut Sun and the league's

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<v Speaker 1>first ever executed the year when he was the GM

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<v Speaker 1>for the Sun as well. After the news broke, sparkstar

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<v Speaker 1>Deerica Hamby took to Twitter, thanking Miller for always having

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<v Speaker 1>her back. She wrote, quote, A little lost for words. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is hard for me as a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>my transition success and support to LA has been Kurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope there is grace in this process for a proven,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing coach. Everything shouldn't fall on his shoulders. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much more that goes into coaching besides wins and losses.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she put in parentheses that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see but you speak on end quote. In

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<v Speaker 1>another tweet, Hanby continued, quote takes courage to come into

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<v Speaker 1>a situation as such and do the dirty work that

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<v Speaker 1>essentially you don't and won't get credit for. Everyone not

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<v Speaker 1>built for that. He wanted that challenge. Some people like

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<v Speaker 1>and only want gold hand it on a platter.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Miller actually responded, writing thanks to Erica, you are

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<v Speaker 1>one of a kind. I do and always will have

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<v Speaker 1>your back. Congratulations again on your year. Keep leading this group,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing changes, build LA into a champion period. Hashtag if

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<v Speaker 1>you know you know hashtag love You Shoe News Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas Aces, practical joker and self described bench warmer, Sidney

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<v Speaker 1>Colson is one step closer to being the quote face

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<v Speaker 1>of the league thanks to a new shoe deal. Colson

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<v Speaker 1>is the first signature shoe athlete and official brand partner

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<v Speaker 1>of Creative Control. Per the press release that went out,

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<v Speaker 1>Quote Creative Control is rewriting the rules of athlete brand partnerships,

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<v Speaker 1>putting athletes at the center of creative decision making and

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<v Speaker 1>offering a fifty one percent profit share from design to production.

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<v Speaker 1>Athletes like Sidney Colson are given full ownership over their

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<v Speaker 1>signature shoe journey, allowing them to build a personal brand

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<v Speaker 1>that extends beyond the court.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What Face of the League refers to get yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>a TV and watch season one of the Sydney TP Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to the trailer in the show notes. Track

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the night. Superstar participants include Thomas of

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<v Speaker 1>course in the two hundred meters plus Friend of the Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Massi Russell and the hundred meter Hurdles and fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>meters goat Faith Kip Yagan. The winner of each event

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<v Speaker 1>will receive sixty thousand dollars plus a crown from Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>and Company. And by the way, to put that in perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>that's double the money that athletes get for winning in

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<v Speaker 1>the Diamond League, which is track and Field's elite circuit

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<v Speaker 1>to soccer. We mentioned earlier this week that Kelly O'Hara

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<v Speaker 1>had played her final game after the Gotham FC defender

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<v Speaker 1>was placed on the season ending injury list due to

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<v Speaker 1>chronic needed generation. Back in May, O'Hara had announced her

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<v Speaker 1>plans to retire from soccer at the end of this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're happy to see that the US women's national

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<v Speaker 1>team won't let her career pass without celebrating it. US

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer announced it honor O'Hara in a retirement ceremony during

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<v Speaker 1>halftime of the team's friendly versus Iceland on October twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Per the Athletic US Soccer is also planning to honor

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Morgan, who retired this month after announcing she's pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>with her second child, but details on the timing of

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<v Speaker 1>that celebration are still in the works. And finally, great

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<v Speaker 1>news for chikai Ugo Red Stars fans and fans of

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<v Speaker 1>world class goalkeeping, Alissa Naier has re signed with the team,

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<v Speaker 1>agreeing to her tenth season with Chicago world's best keeper

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<v Speaker 1>sticking in the world's best city. But I'm not biased,

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<v Speaker 1>So the other day on Twitter, I asked y'all the

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<v Speaker 1>vote on this question, what's the ideal WNBA playoff watching

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<v Speaker 1>situation at the arena? At home on the couch with

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite snacks, in your own bathroom, out and about

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<v Speaker 1>running errands, are at the club on your phone, or

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<v Speaker 1>at a team sponsored watch party. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>y'all like free snacks and no bathroom lines, because at

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<v Speaker 1>home one with sixty two percent of the vote. In

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<v Speaker 1>the arena second with twenty eight percent. At a team

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<v Speaker 1>watch party, earned seven percent of the vote, and watching

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone while running errands are at the club

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<v Speaker 1>snagged two percent. Speaking of voting, it's hard to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're officially less than forty days from election day,

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<v Speaker 1>My little slices, As November fifth approaches, there are sports leagues, teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and groups organizing all over the place in support of

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harrison Tim Walls. Last week, more than fifty former

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<v Speaker 1>football players and coaches, including several Pro Football Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>famers and Super Bowl MVPs, announced their endorsement of the

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<v Speaker 1>VP on National Black Voter Day. And this past Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>I joined an organizing call for Athletes for Harris. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to hear from co chairs Magic Johnson and Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Jean King, from current Second Gentleman Doug M. Hoff, coaches

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr, Doc rivers, Greg Popovich and Moore. Other co

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<v Speaker 1>chairs of the group include South Carolina coach John Staley,

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<v Speaker 1>soccer legend Ali Krieger, MNBA players Draymond Green and Chris Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>and paralympian Ali Truett. Now, a few things stood out

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<v Speaker 1>from that call that I thought might be useful to

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<v Speaker 1>you slices as we spend these weeks approaching election day. First,

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Johnson talked about not needing to know every single

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<v Speaker 1>issue in order to feel comfortable talking to friends and

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<v Speaker 1>family about voting. Just figure out the ones that matter

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<v Speaker 1>most to you and your loved ones and community and

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<v Speaker 1>start conversations about those issues, talk about how they would

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<v Speaker 1>be affected by the election of either candidate. And second,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr had an interesting angle on getting traditionally conservative

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<v Speaker 1>voters to cast a ballot for Harris Walls. He talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the need for a stable Republican party in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>how valuable and necessary it is for the GOP to

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<v Speaker 1>be a functioning party, and he talked about how removing

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump as the leader of the GOP and resetting

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<v Speaker 1>their idea of what would be a successful candidate can

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<v Speaker 1>help start their path back to a respected party that

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<v Speaker 1>differs in issues of policy instead of issues of decency.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're in a battleground state like Arizona, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>at Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin or near one of those states,

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<v Speaker 1>it is all the more important that you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>folks about voting and you get involved. You can actually

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<v Speaker 1>go to events dot Democrats dot org and find opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>to do things like phone banking or canvassing in places

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<v Speaker 1>all across the country. It might not be something you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done before. They will walk you through every single

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<v Speaker 1>little detailed They'll show you how to do it and

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a difference. You could truly talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people that are on the fence or aren't sure what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do and help them understand what an

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<v Speaker 1>important election this is going to be for the future

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<v Speaker 1>of our country and in particular the future of the

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<v Speaker 1>rights for women in our country. So be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>share the site iwill vote dot com and tell folks

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<v Speaker 1>vote by mail and all sorts of other stuff. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to take a quick break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's got the edge when you run back a WNBA

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<v Speaker 1>finals matchup one year later, the team that won last

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<v Speaker 1>year or the team with the better record this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it next.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, my little slices.

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<v Speaker 1>The WNBA semifinals, which are best of five, get underway

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday. Both semifinals series start that day. But today

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<v Speaker 1>I want to dig in on the Aces Liberty series.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rematch of last year's WNBA finals. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>set the stage. It's twenty twenty three, can you remember it?

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie and Oppenheimer were dueling at the box office. Billionaires

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<v Speaker 1>still had high hopes of visiting the Titanic in a submersible.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at the very beginning of what hopefully will

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<v Speaker 1>be an endless in Infinity era tour from Taylor Swift,

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<v Speaker 1>and every WNBA headline was about the battle of the

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<v Speaker 1>super teams, the Las Vegas Aces versus the New York Liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>What a time to be alive. So no one was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised when the Liberty and the Aces met in the finals.

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<v Speaker 1>But were we a little surprised when the Aces, after

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<v Speaker 1>losing Chelsea Gray and Kia Stokes to injury, made easy

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<v Speaker 1>work of the Liberty to win a second straight WNBA title.

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<v Speaker 1>We were, We were surprised, and in their postgame celebration,

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<v Speaker 1>the Aces made it clear there was only one real

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<v Speaker 1>super team in the league. Fast forward to twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Liberty have been the better all around team,

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<v Speaker 1>earning the number one seed in the playoffs. New York

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<v Speaker 1>dominated the Aces in the regular season, beating them in

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<v Speaker 1>all three meetings. Ninety to eighty two on June fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine to sixty seven on August seventeenth, and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five to seventy one on September eighth. After the matchup

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<v Speaker 1>was set, Aces guard Kelsey Plumb had this to say

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<v Speaker 1>about taking on the liberty. I think, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>New York is a lot better than they were last year,

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<v Speaker 1>just playing simple, bigger. They shove the ball at a

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<v Speaker 1>better clip if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go down the line, like pound for pound.

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<v Speaker 1>Individually, all of them are better basketball players, So credit

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<v Speaker 1>to them. And here's ace's coach Becky Hammond talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the finals rematch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll just say they've been the best team all year.

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<v Speaker 4>They played like a team pissed off with an edge,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, we've worked our way there.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we got our edge back probably in

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<v Speaker 3>the last three to four weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into it. Mis Let's start with you,

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<v Speaker 1>how similar is this actually to last year's final matchup?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Sarah, It's funny because it doesn't feel similar

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<v Speaker 4>at all to me. Frankly, the vibe feels completely opposite,

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<v Speaker 4>like the pendulum has totally swung on this head to head.

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<v Speaker 4>So some more stats to kind of back up what

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<v Speaker 4>you just told the people. First and foremost, the Aces

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<v Speaker 4>were the best team in the league. They were thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four and six this year. Obviously, they looked shaky until

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<v Speaker 4>about three quarters of the way through.

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea Gray was healthy the entire year. They had beaten

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<v Speaker 2>New York twice. Already in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 4>They were scoring at one hundred and thirteen points per

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred possessions rate, which is good for the best

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<v Speaker 4>offensive rating in the history of the league. So that's like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's drastic compared to what we've seen this year. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>and by the way, nobody was suing the organization, so

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was probably a little bit less stress.

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<v Speaker 2>Involved as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And then for New York, they'd written Stewie's cold tales

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<v Speaker 4>all year. She was the MVP last season for a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>John cole Jones was dealing with a foot injury. She

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<v Speaker 4>was trying to acclimate to the team, so was Courtney

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<v Speaker 4>van der Sloute. She was new, they didn't have arguably

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<v Speaker 4>the sixth player of the year and Leoni Phoebich doing

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<v Speaker 4>her thing, So things were just completely different for both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it is a completely different setup in

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<v Speaker 1>so much of that was also kind of like momentum

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<v Speaker 1>and confidence. Yes, So, Alex, when we look at these

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<v Speaker 1>two teams, who has the edge in that category? You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a team coming in two time defending champs and

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<v Speaker 1>they won this matchup in the playoffs last year. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, the Liberty had the better record

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<v Speaker 1>this year, looked the best from start to finish, and

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<v Speaker 1>they won all three regular season matchups. Who should come

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<v Speaker 1>in more confident?

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Liberty do. But I want to go

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<v Speaker 5>back because you know, when we were talking about that

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<v Speaker 5>super team superteam matchup last year, I think the thing

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<v Speaker 5>that made the Aces hate that the Liberty were also

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<v Speaker 5>being called a superteam was this idea that you can't

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<v Speaker 5>just build a super team overnight. You know, the Aces

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<v Speaker 5>and the Liberty on paper had the pieces, but the

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<v Speaker 5>Aces had the chemistry and the Liberty did not. Heading

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<v Speaker 5>into this series, right, the Liberty has the momentum. They've

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<v Speaker 5>made it clear that these pieces can work together, it

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<v Speaker 5>can achieve great things on the court. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>what the Aces have going for them is they know

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<v Speaker 5>how to do it. It's just whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 5>all healthy in the same head space. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>And I do think that that's something that you can

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<v Speaker 5>turn on in the playoffs in a way that if

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<v Speaker 5>you don't have those pieces, you have no hope at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's such a good point. And Mesh I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Calli finn slash loss and Freeman. We're still adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>to that name change the other day and I asked her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wonder what your take on this is. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that Asia's unbelievable season has come as a

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<v Speaker 1>response to some of the other players not playing as

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<v Speaker 1>well as they had last year and also Chelsea Gray

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<v Speaker 1>being out, or do you think that because Asia is

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<v Speaker 1>so dominant sometimes the team is almost maybe even subconsciously

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<v Speaker 1>or unintentionally deferring to her instead of stepping up.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it could be a good mix of both, right,

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<v Speaker 4>one could lead to the other. And what I mean

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<v Speaker 4>by that is Kelsey Plumb, Jackie Young, Alicia Clark, like

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of their group. It's not like they haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been putting in the work and doing the same stuff

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<v Speaker 4>they were doing in the twenty twenty three regular season,

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<v Speaker 4>like they've been doing that. But at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 4>once you realize you don't have it going. You kind

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<v Speaker 4>of have to make that decision because if you keep

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<v Speaker 4>jacking shots up, Hey, Becky's not gonna be real happy

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<v Speaker 4>with you, and b you're not gonna have a one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirteen offensive rating like you did in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three. So I think, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a domino effect in that they realized, Okay, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>have it going, and somebody's gonna have to write this shit.

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<v Speaker 4>And Asia is the best player in the world and

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<v Speaker 4>she's on the team, so why would you not defer

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<v Speaker 4>to her? But it's a really good question, especially in

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<v Speaker 4>the playoffs, when it comes down to the crunch time,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta figure out who your go to is gonna be,

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<v Speaker 4>who's hands you're putting that ball in, because everybody can't

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<v Speaker 4>have the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>At one time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we saw in game two of that opening round

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<v Speaker 1>series Kelsey Plumb couldn't hit the broadside of a barn

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<v Speaker 1>in game one, and in game two she erupts. And

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<v Speaker 1>we love to see it in the first game that

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<v Speaker 1>she kept shooting because you're like, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>confidence you need if you're gonna be a good player.

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<v Speaker 1>You try to shoot through it. You don't just stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And in game two we saw the Kelsey plum that

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to seeing. That's gonna be huge for the

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<v Speaker 1>Asis is having nights where some other player just explodes

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<v Speaker 1>because the other team is going to focus on Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>and rightfully so, but you need to figure out then

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<v Speaker 1>if Asia's getting double team triple teamed, or if she's

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<v Speaker 1>just tired, who are you going to and are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna step up exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>And like to that point, you hear people talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Liberty series against Atlanta, get the ball to

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<v Speaker 4>Tea and Charles, she's got to touch the ball with Seattle.

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<v Speaker 4>Against Vegas in the elimination game, get the ball to

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<v Speaker 4>Echo Gumacase she's got to touch it so she can

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<v Speaker 4>spray it out and make other things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know that's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Asia Wilson is also a fantastic passer, shares the ball so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and reads the floor so well.

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<v Speaker 4>So if I'm Becky and the rest of that crew,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just glad she's on our team and she's gotten

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<v Speaker 4>them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a lot of holes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Alex, we talked about confidence. Who should come

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<v Speaker 1>in more confident? What about pressure? You've got a team

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<v Speaker 1>trying to repeat a very rare occurrence in any sport,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in the W And then you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>team trying to win their first title, and with the

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<v Speaker 1>extra added pressure of this roster most likely not looking

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<v Speaker 1>too similar next year once all these contracts and deal

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<v Speaker 1>shake out, who's got more pressure.

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<v Speaker 5>I always think when you see someone win a title

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<v Speaker 5>for the first time, the emotion that accompanies it is joy,

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<v Speaker 5>and when you repeat or repeat again, the feeling is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh see, I disagree. Ooh what do you think? I

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<v Speaker 1>think the first title is relief. I think the first

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<v Speaker 1>title because legacy is all about titles, and we know

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<v Speaker 1>that because of the players that have gone down as

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best ever and have never won it all,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the asterisk that lives on their resume forever.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what their stats are.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, the first one is joy and relief,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ones that come later there's a little relief there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more just like, oh man, this is all

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<v Speaker 1>like cherry on top, keep adding on top, like that's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I'm thinking of it more in respect to the

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<v Speaker 5>pressure that you come in facing. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>you've won everything else that there is to win, but

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<v Speaker 5>you haven't yet won a WNBA title, right, Like, that

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<v Speaker 5>is probably more pressure than if you haven't ever won

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<v Speaker 5>anything at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why for me, it's the Liberty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the Liberty hands down.

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<v Speaker 4>Funny you say that because this is the team that

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<v Speaker 4>the most finals appearance is five with no championship. And

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 4>I've heard from Erica Elaiyala shout out to Black Rosie

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<v Speaker 4>and all them folks and all the people who love

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberty in New York. They're fed up, they're mad

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<v Speaker 4>at this team. They were pissed last season after Game four.

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<v Speaker 4>So I definitely would agree the pressures on New York. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>who's the X factor in this series? Let's give one

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<v Speaker 4>for each team.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where the semantics come in, because like, X factor,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean like the glue gal?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean the star? Does that mean the unexpected?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? So take your pick of what you think it

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<v Speaker 1>means when someone says X factor, but make sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>X factors.

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<v Speaker 4>You know Sarah, she's been doing her job really well

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<v Speaker 4>and hasn't been forced to step up to the plate

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<v Speaker 4>in an offensive way.

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<v Speaker 2>Thus far these playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think Kiya Stokes is gonna be really really

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<v Speaker 4>important in this series, not just on the offensive end,

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<v Speaker 4>but on both sides of the ball because she's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to deal with John Quell, She's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with Brianna Stewart and y Aresabii, who's coming off

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<v Speaker 4>the bench and I think actually really producing well for

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<v Speaker 4>New York when she gets some minutes. So but he

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<v Speaker 4>has also got to be ready to take that corner

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 4>three balls. She's got to be ready to knock down

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<v Speaker 4>any open jumpers and clean up on the offensive boards.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's something that'll help them get over the

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<v Speaker 4>hump and then gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>New York team full of X factors.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna go with Arguably she's not my pick,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 4>but I love what she's done. Arguably the sixth woman

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<v Speaker 4>of the Year in Leoni Phoebich, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean the one I selected? Not too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Not too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm standing by Tiffany Hayes.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I am standing by her, but I think you know,

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<v Speaker 4>based on what she didn't for her playoff debut, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one points in your playoff debut, when you know she

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<v Speaker 4>can go off like that, if, for example, John Quel

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<v Speaker 4>gets into foul trouble, which we know she can, if

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason Stewie doesn't have it going from three,

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 4>any of these myriad of things can happen. Leoni Phoebich

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<v Speaker 4>can help put a band aid on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's mine. Mine are actually two people you

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned. It's Foebitch and it's Tiff Hayes. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's cliches all the six women, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that these starting lineups, there are so many ways

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I can see them offset each other. There are ways

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<v Speaker 1>I can convince myself, oh, they've got this matchup beat,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be easy, And then there's completely

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<v Speaker 1>other side. I'm like, okay, well there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>mismatch here that I'm worried about. But that person coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench in the moments where people are tired,

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>in the moments where there's a foul someone gets hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>like knowing that that person's coming off and going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to contribute, which we've already seen from both

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<v Speaker 1>of them just in this first round. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think for me it's Tiff and Leoni Febitch. What about you, Alex.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think for the Liberty, I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 5>John Quell Jones. And maybe it's a little bit strange

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<v Speaker 5>to call somebody who's such an integral part of the

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<v Speaker 5>team and X factor, but I think John Quell can

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<v Speaker 5>be so hot and can also be so cold. And

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at when the Liberty haven't had success

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<v Speaker 5>this year, it is often because John Quall is getting

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<v Speaker 5>three points, you know, And so I think she really

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<v Speaker 5>has to turn it on, have confidence, and be willing

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<v Speaker 5>to do her thing and be set up in a

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<v Speaker 5>position to do her thing for the Liberty to have success.

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<v Speaker 5>For the Aces, this maybe sounds like a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a copad answer, but their bench, And the reason

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<v Speaker 5>why I say that is I think that the Aces,

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<v Speaker 5>out of all the teams in the league, have the

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<v Speaker 5>best bench chemistry, and that's led by Sid Colson, self

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 5>described benchwarmer. Right like she owns that title. She knows

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 5>that she's not going to be the star on the court,

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<v Speaker 5>and it is hard, I think, in a league with

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<v Speaker 5>the best players in the world to have people on

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<v Speaker 5>the bench who know what their place is, who know

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 5>how to set up their teammates for success, and aren't

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 5>resentful of that. It's that off court chemistry that really

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<v Speaker 5>makes a big difference when you get down to the

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<v Speaker 5>finals in the semifinals.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that answer because I have found, like, particularly

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>with my teams that I follow, that's the stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>notice when you watch every single game of a season.

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<v Speaker 1>You notice when the bench has certain celebrations for different

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>players doing things. You notice how hype they get when

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<v Speaker 1>someone comes last woman off the bench and gets some

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>playing time and everyone loses their shit. You notice when

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>they're messing with Kate Martin and then leaving her off

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the bus and having like those things stand out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do love that answer, and I do think

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes I'll look back on a championship year from one

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>of my teams and I'll be like, you could almost

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>tell from the beginning they just had it. They had it. Okay,

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>last question, big question, Miish, I'm starting with you.

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Who's your pick?

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Who?

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<v Speaker 4>I literally was the person to write this in our

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 4>rundown today. I want everybody to know that I'm still struggling. Oh,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 4>I have to go liberty, and it is it's going

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 4>against all the Leo cells in my body to not

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 4>pick Asia Wilson to advance here. But I'm at a

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 4>point where, looking big picture, it's got to be New

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 4>York this year, or it's got to be Connecticut, like

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<v Speaker 4>somebody's gonna get that payoff.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 2>And it just feels like New York's time.

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 4>Everybody's clicking la China Robinson said it on WNBA accountdown

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 4>called it in the clinching game to Brittany and Escue

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna lead the way she did the Tiger. She's

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<v Speaker 4>built different this season, and I think the rest of

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 4>the team is also following that lead.

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<v Speaker 5>So Alex New York, I'm still ninety.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Alex is sticking to her guns. She said it a

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<v Speaker 1>month or so ago, and she's sticking to it. Okay,

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going Liberty.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going Liberty for a lot of what you said me.

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<v Speaker 1>She'm going Liberty because in the matchups, every time this

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<v Speaker 1>season they've come out on top, they've figured out how

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<v Speaker 1>to beat an Ace's team that yes has gotten better

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and maybe hasn't even been at its peak in those

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>regular season matchups. But something about this Liberty team that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is it's it's gonna get it done this year.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Sharyl Reeve is jotting down your name

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<v Speaker 1>for not including the links in that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you were saying two teams that have never won,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>but she's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for real, okay, all right, good to know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good stuff, guys. We got to take another

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 2>break when we come back.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh what the fact that puts the WNBA's recent success

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>into perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>You're back, We're back to welcome backslices. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>a little what the fact? Okay, so a little context here.

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<v Speaker 1>As women's sports have exploded of late, I've spoken on

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a number of panels, I've done some keynotes, and I'm

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>always trying to emphasize the context around what we're seeing now.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not just Caitlin Clark changing the whole landscape for

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>women's sports. It's also what came before and prevented it

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>from blowing up before. That includes patriarchal values that kept

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>women from participating, pseudoscience dictating what women were allowed to

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>even attempt to do, actual bands on women's sports, like

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>seventy years banning women's pro soccer in England, and then

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>lack of investment, lack of data, lack of resources, lack

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of coverage, you get the idea. The point is all

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that context around the landscape of women's sports is so

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>necessary when we have conversations about how we got here

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and where we're going. And that's true in the WNBA two. Yes,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we've seen Kaitlin Clark be the match that lit up

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the bonfire of a league that was being built over

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the last quarter century. And when we talk about this change,

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>this pivotal moment, so much of it is around the

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>hype about Kaitlin Clark. But we also have to talk

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>about the league's starts and stops, it's moments of growth

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and regression, and we just got some new information about

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that because the recent sportsmediawatch dot com article entitled how

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Clark raised the bar for the WNBA highlights an

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>excerpt from a book about ESPN. Now I actually have

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>this book, and I thought I read the whole thing,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>but I do not remember this section. Maybe it's just

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hitten a little different in the context of everything that's

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>going around with the w But the story talks about

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this part of the book and reflects on how decision

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>making from one higher up at the worldwide leader changed

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole trajectory of the league. So here's a bit

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>of that story from sportsmediawatch dot com, written by John Lewis.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Quote in the Jim Miller and Tom Shales book Those

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Guys Have All the Fun. Former ESPN executive Mark Shapiro

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>was blunt about the clashes he and then NBA commissioner

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>David Stern had over the airing of WNBA games in

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands. This quote from Shapiro, he wanted

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the WNBA on the air. I told him the WNBA stinks,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't rate, and I didn't want it. No one

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<v Speaker 1>watches it, men don't watch it, women don't watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>My goal was to get it off the air. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it off altogether. But he went above me to

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN president George Bodenheimer, and I think Disney CEO Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Iiger and one. It was one of the few times

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<v Speaker 1>George ever overruled me. At least I got it put

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN two where it couldn't hurt us. End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis's story continues quote. The WNBA's banishment to ESPN two

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<v Speaker 1>after benefiting from regular windows on NBC and ESPN, was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of its dark ages when viewership tanked, every

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<v Speaker 1>team jersey was the same except for color and the

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<v Speaker 1>ad on the front, and playoff games were being moved

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<v Speaker 1>to college campuses because Disney on Ice held precedents. A

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA title was once clinched at the Convocation Center of

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Michigan. The only attention the league got was as

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<v Speaker 1>the butt of jokes on Network's It Comes. It took

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty years for the league to merely recover to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where it was viewed as having potential. It

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<v Speaker 1>may well have continued to grow without Clerk. The difference

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<v Speaker 1>she has made is not between survival and failure, but

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<v Speaker 1>between gradual growth and a level of cultural relevance that

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<v Speaker 1>the league realistically may never have reached without her. From

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<v Speaker 1>baby steps to a full sprint. End quote. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this book has been out there, but I think looking

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<v Speaker 1>at everything around the w right now, looking at all

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<v Speaker 1>the bad faith arguments people have made about the product

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<v Speaker 1>being bad, about nobody watching it, hits especially to read

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<v Speaker 1>that an executive at the most powerful sports media company

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to tank it with intention and listen. As

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<v Speaker 1>business people, you can decide whether you want to elevate something,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you believe in something, whether you want to bet

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<v Speaker 1>on something to bring in ratings and revenue and ad dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>But also at every turn in history, usually men have

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<v Speaker 1>not bet on women. They have not given it a

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<v Speaker 1>shot to thrive. And as it said in that story

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<v Speaker 1>and as it said in the book, when it did

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to be seen and covered, it did thrive.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as they took that away, it started

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<v Speaker 1>to falter. And that example is true across so many

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<v Speaker 1>different opportunities for women's sports in the past. And I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that now that we're having real dialogue about this

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<v Speaker 1>and being transparent about how those decisions can change everything,

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<v Speaker 1>we do not allow that to happen again. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thankful for those who fought him on at least keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it on. But man, does that suck to hear how

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<v Speaker 1>much farther along the league could have been if it

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been for people putting those roadblocks in the way. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important to keep talking about that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important to keep calling out those what the facts,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we can make sure we don't make those

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<v Speaker 1>same mistakes in the future. We love that you're listening slices,

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<v Speaker 1>but we always want to get you in the game

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<v Speaker 1>every day too. So here's our good gameplay at the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a real easy one. Just go watch Sidney

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<v Speaker 1>Coolson's shoe launch video. We'll link to it in our

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. It finally puts an end to the age

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<v Speaker 1>old question, can you flirt with yourself? Yes? Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go watch it. You'll understand we love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's what we did today. There's been some

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<v Speaker 1>major drama in the ultra running world, so we called

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<v Speaker 1>up friend of the show, former group Chat guest and

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<v Speaker 1>ultra marathon Kalaim Conahan to help us out.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's her review, changing Wikipedia pages for your competitors. Out

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<v Speaker 6>of five stars, this story gets crazy. Eights before yesterday,

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<v Speaker 6>I knew Kamille Herron as one of my favorite ultrarunners,

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<v Speaker 6>a champion who had earned twelve world records in ultra running,

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<v Speaker 6>including fastest one hundred miler, running a ridiculous seven minutes

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<v Speaker 6>thirty eight seconds per mile for one hundred miles. She

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<v Speaker 6>remains the only athlete to have won all the IAW

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<v Speaker 6>World championships for the fifty K, one hundred k, and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four hours. Her talent, wins and accolades are undeniable.

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<v Speaker 6>But then, just like when my headlamp went out in

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<v Speaker 6>the deep woods of Rocky Point, New York in the

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<v Speaker 6>middle of the night, things have taken an unexpected turn

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<v Speaker 6>to the dark side.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh.

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<v Speaker 6>In an article from Canadian Running magazine, reporter Marley Dickinson

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<v Speaker 6>details how heron and her coach slash husband Connor Holt,

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<v Speaker 6>have been caught removing accolades from other runners Wikipedia pages.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, slices. One of veres sneaky Wikipedia account has

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<v Speaker 6>been found pulling superlatives from the pages of fellow runners

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<v Speaker 6>like Desi Lindon, who won the twenty eighteen Boston Marathon,

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<v Speaker 6>and Courtney de Walter, who, after winning the three most

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<v Speaker 6>prestigious one hundred milers last summer, is arguably the sport's

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<v Speaker 6>biggest star. This Wikipedia account removed phrases like quote, widely

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<v Speaker 6>regarded as one of the best trail runners ever from

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<v Speaker 6>de Walter's Wikipedia page, meanwhile adding the suspiciously similar phrase

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<v Speaker 6>quote widely regarded as one of the greatest ultra runners

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<v Speaker 6>of all time, to you guessed it. Camille Heron's Wikipedia page.

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<v Speaker 6>Also sketchy, This Wikipedia account was created hours after a

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<v Speaker 6>prior account was temporarily banned for conflict of interest policies,

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<v Speaker 6>specifically for jusging up Heron's page, and it was later

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<v Speaker 6>determined to be a continuation of that banned account. Even

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<v Speaker 6>more sketchy, this same Wikipedia account was awfully quiet during

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<v Speaker 6>Heron's six day world record attempt back in March. Either

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<v Speaker 6>the Internet is full of great detectives, or perhaps this

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<v Speaker 6>account was not so sneaky after all, changing other runners

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<v Speaker 6>Wikipedia entries is not cheating per se. So you really

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<v Speaker 6>can't take away any of Camille Heron's incredible successes as

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<v Speaker 6>an ultrarunner. So why is she trying to take away

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<v Speaker 6>the success of her peers. I'm all for healthy competition,

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<v Speaker 6>but this ain't it. It's embarrassing and cringe and downright bananas.

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<v Speaker 6>As an ultrarunner myself, I don't mind being called crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm kind of used to it, but this is crossing

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<v Speaker 6>the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Camille absolutely Bonker's story.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Klain.

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