1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to That's What Really miss Podcast. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm Jana and I am Kevin, and we have an update. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: We have news since we last spoke to you. All 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: good news, good news. We have done a little recon 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: research wanted to make sure we stood in solidarity with 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: our union. We have been approved to continue doing the 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: podcast where you were very excited and happy that SAG 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: has given us the go ahead and that we can 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: still be here with you guys, So hooray. If you 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: would like to learn more like we have been digging 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: into and learning all about this past week, go to 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: SAG Afterstrike dot org and it has all the info 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: about why the union is striking, why it's important to 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: support it, why we're in full support of it, and 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: why we wanted to make sure we did our due 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: deal diligence before we kept going. We wanted to go 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: ahead from our union that protects us every single day 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: when we go to work. 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: So here we are enjoyed the episode. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: If you were here last week, you heard part one 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: with Ashley Fink. 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: And all the nuggets, all the nuggets of information new 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: information she dropped. Are you kidding? 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: My jaw was literally on the ground. I had no idea. 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: I know, and it may not feel that big of 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: a deal to other people. 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: Okay, but feeling like we know everything, it's like something 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know is exciting. 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: It was like the first time I've seen you, like properly, 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: like gas was. 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Really I was excited, I was invigorated. I was shocked. 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: I was genuinely surprised. Well, there's more to it, so 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: let's let's listen. 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: I love that she just turns your mouth on and 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: let's it go. Thanks for joining us again. Here is 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: part two. 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: On the podcast, we talk a lot about like the 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: cringe worthy things, the things that don't age well, the 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: jokes that won't wouldn't play anymore obviously almost all of 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: them don't work for your character, you know, Like for 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: Tina and Mike, it was always like I was always like, 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: why do we have the same last name when we're 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: not both Chinese? Zics was like very it was very 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: like food driven. There was a lot of like, you know, 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: bribes with candy things like that, like, uh, did you 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: what did that make you feel at the time versus now? 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: I hated it at the time, and I was really 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: bothered by it, and I didn't understand the dichotomy of 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: having her be this badass bitch and also having her 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: eat in every scene. And thank god Stacy K. Black, 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: the brilliant Stacy K. Black, who was the head or 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: hair to herman at the time and now she's gone 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: on to be the very prolific director. He came up 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: to Ryan and she was like, I don't want to 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: see another scene where Ashley eats. Ever. Wow, was such 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: an advocate for me, and I have chill bumps talking 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 4: about it. And I think he didn't never thought he didn't, 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: just hadn't thought of it that way, you know. It 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: was kind of like, oh, this is the way we 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: get a punchline. This is the punchline every time. So 63 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: much of it has to do with genetics, and like 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: do I sit around eating all day? No, I'm just 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: a human person. Like that's so much more interesting than that. 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: And they didn't really focus on the physicality of other people. 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: And the way they that was just like my whole storyline. 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: It was really bored. Every time we do press for 69 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: the movie or tour, it'd be like, oh, plus size 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: actress Ashley Fak I'm like, but I will say plus 71 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: size actress Seth. 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Rogen, Right, it was really it. 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: Really bothered me, and thank goodness that sort of stopped 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: and they got to know more of who she was, 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: oh much of the show and not work today. 76 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of Some. 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: Of it is lucky that we got to do it 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: when we did it, because I mean, a school was mean. 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: People are mean, and of course the bullying and all 80 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: that stuff and Jane Lynch's character and stuff, that's all 81 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: super triggering and I understand why peop don't want to 82 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: watch it on TV. But at the same time, like 83 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: that is the high school experience. 84 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: So yes, it's cool that we got to. 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: Do some of that stuff, but obviously some of it 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: does not age well. And I got to say, I'm 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: really surprised the little the Little TikTok girlies love the 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: show so much, like because you would. 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: Think, right now, yeah, that's why we've had that conversation 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: so many times, because you, yeah, it seems like the 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: antithesis of what's being preached by gen Z. Yeah, and 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: then we say some crazy not okay things. 93 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a popular show. Yeah, and it's so 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: funny because I feel like anything that's popular for a 95 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: really long time, the bubble pops and people want to 96 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: hate it, just and capacitating. I think that kind of 97 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: happened with Glee. For a while. People loved it, loved 98 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: to love it, and then it kind of went off 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: the air, and then it was just kind of like, 100 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: I'm not passe, but just people didn't have the love 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: for it they do. And then the pandemic happened and 102 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: everyone watched it on Netflix and it's just like crazy, 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: the abount of people who had resonated with now and 104 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: who loved it, and it's all but that's the one 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: thing that the show did so well was I think 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: everyone was represented. You had somebody you could connect with, 107 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, And so I guess we're just lucky, the 108 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: kids like us, you. 109 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: Know, very lucky. Yeah, it's like a time capsule. 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: It's like I watch other phenomenon, you know, like huge 111 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: shows like Friends, and a lot of that wouldn't age 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: well either. 113 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: I mean all of them wouldn't age. 114 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: Well, but the big ones, the Juggernauts, and it's like 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: I still watch it with such love and and you know, 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: joy from those shows, and it just brings me like 117 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: ease and and like a calmness, and so I could 118 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: I can kind of understand its potentially like that people 119 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: understand that was it. It was a different time. Not 120 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: that it makes it acceptable, but it was a different 121 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, grace. 122 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. 123 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: Give me a little faith in like people that they 124 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: can sort of contextualize the show like that, because I 125 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: would think people would critique it like it was made 126 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. 127 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, they would, you know, maybe out with the bathwater 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: and mister Shu. Most of us has been pretty lucky. 129 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: That was a wild time, that that TikTok time. 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, god, oh my god, did you ever get slushy? 131 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: By the way, Oh I never did. I was so 132 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: lucky because I. 133 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: Was like waiting in the reboot. 134 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I. 135 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: Know, I did not. I was very lucky. I was 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 4: way too cool for that. Lauren would not have played 137 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: that way. 138 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's true. 139 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you were the one character like out 140 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: of all of us, like, like, who's going to try 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: to You've beat their hats? 142 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 4: Oh that's right. Silly Love Songs is the Santana Lauren fight. 143 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: My god, I still watch it is. 144 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: I died so. 145 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: Good, the way Z throws her around. 146 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: Just how much of that was you guys versus how 147 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: much uh. 148 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: The doubles they did the whole thing. 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: We didn't have doubles a budget we're talking about. No, 150 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: I just kidding, i'mu of course we did. We had 151 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: a stunt coordinator. We had a stunt coordinator, but that 152 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: was us. We did it well. No, when when I'm like, 153 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: there was one big throw, that's right, yeah, I did everything. 154 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: When they tried, they could not find a stunt they got. 155 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: They brought a man for my stunt double. You stop 156 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: right now, you stop right now every time, and he 157 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: just there was no way they could make it look 158 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: like it was me. And then we did most of it. 159 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: I and I also like we had a stunt coordinator there, 160 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: but also we knew each other really well. It was 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: kind of like what are you comfortable with? And and 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: all that stuff. Were like she's trying to pull on 163 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: me and I'm just standing there like, bitch, are you kidding? 164 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: Like that's just stuff we added or like so you guys, yeah, 165 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: we just yeah, or when like the smack was written obviously, 166 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: so she smacks me and I hand uh puck the glasses. 167 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: But I just love a forest. I ends you, like, 168 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. It's so good. That was scripted. 169 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: It like I'm lying on the heights adjacent. 170 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: It's just so fun. Yeah, it was the most incredible 171 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: fun I had. 172 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: For sure, And uh yeah it was. It was. We 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: definitely had a stub coordinator and all that stuff, but 174 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: a lot of the the jokes that we mined in 175 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: there were very much nigh andizing, like are you cool 176 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: with this? 177 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: Like this? 178 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: And then you know, Dot, who I'm also super close with, 179 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: comes in and breaks up the fight, and Dot and 180 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: I kind of added this moment where like I like 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: go like this to another kid, like I like I'm 182 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: going to punch him because he's like watching, And she's. 183 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Like, hey, you know, like all that stuff too good. 184 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: The way Na flew through the air. 185 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: And then I think she got air, she took air, 186 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: and then I think when it hits the ground and 187 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 4: it's like the back of her head that I'm pulling. 188 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: That was definitely that was the double exactly, very short, 189 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: very minimal does not work. 190 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: I bet they probably were like, you're not doing. 191 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: That, let's do it well. Also, that fairy would not 192 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: have lasted, you know, wouldn't have. 193 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: I love that. 194 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys on the podcast The 195 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: Fairy Vale, have you? 196 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, people know about fairy Vale for sure. 197 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: I mean I knew they knew back in the day, 198 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: But like that, I will never forget, just you know, 199 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: being on an award show and Gwyneth Peltrow or Kristin 200 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 4: Chenna with being like my Fairyvale, You're like, oh my god, 201 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: that's our legacy that lives on. So right, do you 202 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: guys remember the last night on tour in the States 203 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: before we flew to London. We were all bored children 204 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: that were trapped in the hotel and we played spin 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: the Bottle. We all played Spin the Bottle, and then 206 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 4: there was this weird talent show New York and it 207 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: was not New York. It was that weird like Minnesota hotel. 208 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: This is was it the first masterpiece for my. 209 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Birthday masterpiece theater? 210 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 211 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that birthday. 212 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: It was Troy and we were in that weird old 213 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: hotel where you had like actual physical keys and Corey 214 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: Loss's keys. So we just went across the street and 215 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: got a hotel room because you didn't want to deal 216 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: with but no there, yeah, oh yeah for sure. And 217 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: uh and that's where we just ever twinkles because we 218 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: had like champagne with a vodka top or at his 219 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: hotel across the street. Remember twinkle. 220 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: So fuck and then all of London that's all we 221 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: drank was twinkles. 222 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: I wondered how a twinkle? I mean, I love it 223 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: going down and I wanted to. 224 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah at the end of the night, but no, Yeah. 225 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: So it started as Mousterpiece and we all did like 226 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: a talent show. 227 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: Huh yeah. Masterpiece theater is the thing that we did, 228 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: like Masterpiece. If you noticed in the show when we 229 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: kiss each other, we say I want to mouse you, 230 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 2: because that was in real life. That's what we said 231 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: to each other. And then Mousterpiece was a thing that 232 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: started on my birthday and then people would adopt it 233 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: for their birthdays where people would have to do random 234 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: any any sort of talent anything like Chris Colfer took 235 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: the glass off of the coffee table and blew it 236 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: like a blowfish like, so his face blew up like 237 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: that was his talent. 238 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: And then he took the weird like crystal thing off 239 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 4: the top of the light the lamps Hayden was doing 240 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: weird like karate stuff. Clothing was optional. Clothing was always optional. 241 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: But at the end of it, we all were just 242 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: like a little drunk, and Zach had finally gotten there, 243 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: and Darren had been jamming with the Warblers and he 244 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: finally got there. And we're also like, let's play spin 245 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 4: the bottle because we're not ground ups, and we all play. 246 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: We all played spend the bottle and everyone ended up 247 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: kissing everyone because that's what we did. And then but 248 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: Corey was patient zero and he had a cold, and 249 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: so we all flew across the country with a sinus 250 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: infection and like had they all land and get like 251 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: beach twelve shots. 252 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: We did get in Manchester because we were sick as ship. 253 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: Because I was dumb asses all made out with each 254 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: other before we had to fly across the country and 255 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: I don't know why. I just thought of that, but I. 256 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: Did not know that's how the contagion started. On my birthday, 257 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: my gift to. 258 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that, Kevin. 259 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite memories. 260 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: Wow, that was a very special night. That was hilarious. 261 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: I won't say who Corey had to kiss, but I 262 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: just remember watching his face and it was so sweetly 263 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: and it was just I was like, I'm I remember 264 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: thinking like I need to lock this in. This is 265 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: hilarious and wonderful. 266 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, forever, forever. 267 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: We played Spin the Bottle so often. It was insane, 268 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: gender blind Spin the Bottle? 269 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Now, did they put that in blame it on the 270 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 3: alcohol episode because they knew we played. 271 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: It so much? Or was that the catalyst for us 272 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: to actually. 273 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: Feel like that way? Right? I feel like, but we 274 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: definitely did blame it on the alcohol before tour. There 275 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: could have been a Spin the Bottle before that. 276 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Twenty years old. You guys, we played Spin the Bottle. 277 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: I think we had done it before we had done it. 278 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: We had done it before we had I think we 279 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: played it that night the Super Bowl. 280 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: Come, that's right, that's right. 281 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's a gateway drug. 282 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: You know, well, I mean, who else are we going 283 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: to make out? We literally lived there. 284 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: And you know, if you're not we know each other 285 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: so much. Everyone's like, oh, our friends are so hot, 286 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: and yeah, like why not? 287 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: Also, if you're not making out with your friends, what 288 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: do you do? You're doing it wrong. You know you're 289 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: doing it wrong. 290 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of tour someone you were always working as an actor, 291 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: not necessarily a musical artist going on tour, but you 292 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: come from the musical theater. 293 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: I went to musical theater school and everything. 294 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: So being on stage singing fine, been there, done that, 295 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: sure tour, but not in front of twenty thousand people. 296 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: Broken foot. 297 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: That was more of oh my god, that's right. 298 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: Filming the last episode of Good season two, we were 299 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: dancing the TKTS steps and Heather Morris pleasant Work tripped 300 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 4: because she was wearing heels and grabbed me for support. 301 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 4: But I was, you know, dancing, I was doing my ship. 302 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: You know, camera was on me and I didn't notice, 303 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: and so she just grabbed me and we both just 304 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: tumbled down the stairs. And I stood up and I 305 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: was like, oh, it was my foot. Uh, And then 306 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: I got through the episode and and whatever. But so 307 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: I had like a my foot was fractured in like 308 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: three places. And we only had like three days off 309 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: from filming before tours started. Yeah, so that was my Like, 310 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: I that was one thing that sucked because I really 311 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: was excited about the singing and dancing, and like they 312 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: didn't even realize my mic didn't work for like three 313 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: ups before like three cities. I'm just keeping at one stops. 314 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: I'm laughing because it's insane. 315 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: Bet from some of the like huge bigger numbers, just 316 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: because I literally like I was limping. And but then 317 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: as I like the tour went on, like it got 318 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: much better. But the craziest thing about tour was like, 319 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: I'm so lucky for my experience with Glee and I 320 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: will treasure it forever, and like, how incredible that I 321 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: got to be a part of this. However, there's so 322 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: much of my experience where I was like the step child, 323 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: Like I was on tour, but I wasn't really on tour. 324 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't on any of the merchandise. The Glee three 325 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: D poster they used a picture of me from rehearsal 326 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,239 Speaker 4: when I had no hair and makeup. 327 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: On I'm so glad you were on it. 328 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: Shocking that I was on it. 329 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't on it. You're not on the poster now 330 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: they forgot. 331 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: I would rather have not been on it than on it. 332 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: I look, it's bad. It's bad, and I honestly think 333 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: I have my ace bandage on. 334 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Way. 335 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, can we google this and let me look? 336 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: I mean, we're so little in it anyway, like it's bar. 337 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: We're all barely legible that it's we're in it arena. 338 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: Security never believed I was like in the show. So 339 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: I had a whole solo thing where I'd come down 340 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: the stairs and I'd be like in Fat One, girls 341 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: are like get over here, Puckerman, and we would run 342 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: and like find each other and like k and whatever 343 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: and run back on stage and we all like jammed 344 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: out with like Cord and Corey. But without fail even 345 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: though I'm like, get over here, Pokerman with a microphone 346 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: in a spotlight. As I'd run down the stairs to 347 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: meet Mark, I would get tackled by security, throw me 348 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: against the wall because they were like, who's this big 349 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: ass fan running down here? Try to attack this man 350 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: every time, and so it was it became hilarious, and 351 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: like Mark would always do what he could to be 352 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: like I would say, and I'd be like, I don't know, 353 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: and then they'd kind of realized and we just sort 354 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 4: of keep it pushing, like it became a thing. So 355 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: then every single city, Mom Rob or somebody in our 356 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: security team would take me to meet the security people 357 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: and be like these are the stairs she's going to 358 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: be running down and about half the time they wouldn't 359 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: tackle me. So it's so funny because there are so 360 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: many videos those people like filming this moment. There used 361 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: to be on you Ti. I don't know if they're 362 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: still there. On Twitter, people always tag me because it's 363 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 4: like hilarious, like I am running down having my like 364 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: big solo moment and then I get like tackled by security. 365 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: And that's just sort of my clear experience in general. 366 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: How did you get down there with your boot on? 367 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: Did you just do it? 368 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: It wasn't allowed. I didn't wear I did not wear 369 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 4: the boot. I had to leave the boot and Thomas 370 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: the stank engineer crazy bank, Oh I think I can, 371 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 4: I think I can. That was the name of the 372 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: plane on tour. And then I would just like wrap 373 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: it in an a spanders that was hid by like 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: the nine layers of clothing. 375 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: They had me. 376 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, those costumes, remember how much we love those. 377 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: We could we could have a whole season about those costumes. 378 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: The costumes. 379 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: We had some issues white damn jackets that we threw 380 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: into the audience in Ireland. Well, I'm sorry that that 381 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: was your tour experience. 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: I no it's great to see the world. I hear you. No, 383 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: I hear you though, yeah in. 384 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: The bottle, but it was like, yeah. 385 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that, I feel you. 386 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: Everyone had merchandise and like all my friends and family 387 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 4: would come to the tour and be like, and you know, whatever, 388 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: there are worse things. I'm on, like the biggest show 389 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: in the world, traveling the world for free. Like I'm 390 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: so grateful and I have so much, you know, gratitude 391 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: for the whole experience. But it was just funny. I 392 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: was like, this is so indicative of my time. 393 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: What a strange, strange experience. 394 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: You had such a unique experience with similar challenges to 395 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: some of the things that we dealt with, but also 396 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: while getting paid a lot. Yeah, you know, it's like, okay, 397 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: at least I was like weaving a co in the back, 398 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 3: and I was very expensively doing it, you know, but 399 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: like I get. 400 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: It and then sort of like what me touched on 401 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: it again, I have nothing but gratitude for the experience, 402 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: like I've experienced something that only fourteen other people have. 403 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: But it did also stop us from getting other jobs, 404 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: like Fox couldn't. 405 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: Address and I Susman too, he had he was going 406 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: to test and got on pause as well. 407 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. 408 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: That's because especially for you, it's like you had you 409 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: had a decision to make. 410 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, decisions plural and yes you had. 411 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: You're very lucky to have many decisions and for some reason, 412 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: well you chose that. 413 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: I did if, like I said, it felt important, And 414 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, the kids that would come up and 415 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: talk to me all the time, it really resonated with me, 416 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: and I don't know, but the business side of things 417 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 4: is something like as as we've gotten older, like I 418 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: wish that people would teach kids that, Like, I don't 419 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: think there's enough emphasis on like young talent being taught 420 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: about the business. And I think they had a lot 421 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: of times I have representation that I didn't but like 422 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: want to take advantage of them, and they don't have 423 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: your best interest in heart, and they're just excited you're working, 424 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: and I don't know, I I just feel like it's 425 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: a disadvantage for a lot of younger actors, you know, 426 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: like now we've all do stuff, we're all business people, 427 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: are on our own right and you totally see every 428 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: step of the other side of it. And it's just like, man, 429 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 4: I wish that I knew more about that right back then. 430 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Well, because it is a business, yeah, because. 431 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like a business, like we're family and 432 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: everything is a game. This whole industry is a gamble. 433 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 4: But you can't always just be able to have your 434 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: back the way you have theirs, and there's a bottom 435 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 4: line and there's all these things at play that you're 436 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: you know, it's just interesting. But yeah, I did it 437 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: did It was great, and but but I would come 438 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: in once a season, you know, and so not being 439 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: able to work on other stuff. There was a big 440 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: franchise that a friend of mine wrote and wrote a 441 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: character for and me in and I wasn't even allowed 442 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: to audition for it. It's like, oh she was one, she 443 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 4: can't be another singing movie. It's weird, Like it's a 444 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: conflict of interest. And so that kind of sucked because, 445 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: like I'm sure you guys even experienced this, like going 446 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: from working to one four hours a day every day, 447 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 4: and like you don't have weekends off because you're doing 448 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: charity events, you don't have somewhere off because we're on tour, 449 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 4: and then not having anything new. It's like so weird 450 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: for your mental health. 451 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: Because people don't like, like actively don't want to work. 452 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but just like going from that busy lifestyle to 453 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: like being like what how do I? 454 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 455 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 4: Did you guys feel that way when the show ended. 456 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it took a while for me because luckily I 457 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: had some things lined up afterwards. Like I know, Kevin 458 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: went off to London to work for a little bit, 459 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: I moved to New York. I was like, hit it 460 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: and quit it. Let me go do some stuff in 461 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: New York. So I worked for a while, but then 462 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: then the law happened about a year after, and that 463 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: was really hard. And then as the time went on 464 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: even longer, it was like you're separating yourself from the 465 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: worth of what you know, because we were so young 466 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: when we were doing it, Like I connected everything on 467 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: my whole worth and self love with. 468 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: My career working since I was three years old, like. 469 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: It, and so separating finding how to love myself, finding 470 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: how to stand up for myself because a lot of 471 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: Glee was, oh, you're such a good team player. Oh 472 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 3: John is one of the ones that will do whatever 473 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 3: we ask absolutely, So that was definitely I was think 474 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: about that the other night. I was like, these relationships 475 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: even in my life that I was in. I was adaptable, 476 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: I was I was a minimal I was you know, 477 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, it's like, but what 478 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: about me? At some point it was it like clicked 479 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: and it was like, but what about me? 480 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 481 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: That was really crazy, Kevin? Did you did you have that? 482 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: Like? 483 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: I think the three of us are similar in that 484 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: exact way, I have to say. I think because we've 485 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: been doing this for a really long time. Yeah, and 486 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: we're family. Yeah, And it's like you the old woos, like, yeah, 487 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: we'll work hard, keep our head down, keep it moving, 488 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: like happy to just be here, happy to have a job, 489 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: you know. 490 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: But I agree with you actually like the business side 491 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: of things. I wish I had learned more and I 492 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: am kind of business saving. I do have that ability 493 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: to turn that on so like, And maybe it's because 494 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: we've all worked for so long that like we we 495 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: had the foresight or like the hindsight. 496 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't know either one both, but like, but for you, 497 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: it's like. 498 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: I felt like I feel like because we're artists and 499 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: and a lot of people lead with their creative side 500 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: in this industry, a lot of people lead with their 501 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: heart and all of our emotions. It's like, and then 502 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: along with it, it's like, just. 503 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: Be gratefully you have a job. 504 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: The business side goes by the way side, and that's 505 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: where we're not protected. 506 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: And that's why we're in a strike right now, because 507 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: we really that's why we have unions to protect us. 508 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: It's hard to like when you are like leading with 509 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: creativity too, it's like you shouldn't have to worry about 510 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: the side of it because like, you're not hired to 511 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: do business. 512 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: No, you're hired to make people feel something, and that's 513 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: obviously some going. 514 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I agree with Jenna, what about you? Actually, 515 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: I think if unfortunately though, you need to have some 516 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: sort of business acumen to navigate it because you're especially 517 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: for us, that started really hard, right You're thrust into 518 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: a world of adults who have been doing this and 519 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: who know how to do it. We know how to 520 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: do that now, and we can help people who younger. 521 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: If I could go back, oh my god, you know, 522 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 4: I mean definitely fel the same way. But it's like, also, 523 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 4: you're we were so busy, like we didn't you know, 524 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: we had to have people taking care of that kind 525 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 4: of stuff for us. We I didn't have you know, 526 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: we didn't have time to do for ourselves. But then 527 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: you're putting a lot of faith and your reps and 528 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: the network people to like look after you and take 529 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: care of you. And if you know, yeah, it's smart 530 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: to it's smart if you're if you're a little human 531 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: out there who wants to get into this business. I 532 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: would say, read a book about the businesses, because very 533 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: easy to get swept up in the romance of the 534 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: fun and how lucky you are. But also sometimes people 535 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: get really taken advantage. 536 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: Of because lucky to have a job is great, but 537 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: I can get out of hand very quickly. 538 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and on top I think that we were in 539 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: a very unique situation. But I there's this thing with 540 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think how to say this, this thing 541 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 4: with actors where they don't want you to feel like 542 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: you have enough, have any control or any power. 543 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: Like completely kept down. 544 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: So if you constantly feel replaceable and cut down and 545 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: all that stuff, then it keeps you complacent, right, it 546 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: keeps you in the way that we all were. I 547 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: don't want to rock the boat and all these things. 548 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: And some people like doing some things that you're maybe 549 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: not comfortable doing, but you don't want to say no. 550 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: And that's something I stopped after Lee, Like, you know, 551 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not doing any more sad factral 552 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: parts like not you know and stuff like that, and 553 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: so it's like, I don't know, it's just interesting. The 554 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: business side of it is just so interesting. But you're 555 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: totally right, Like separating yourself worth as a human from 556 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 4: the success of your job, for how many people care 557 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: about your job, like, is so important, especially because now 558 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: it's like back when we started, it was like who's 559 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: the most talented, you know in a lot of ways, 560 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: and now so much other things and so many other things. 561 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: You know, how many followers do you have? How much 562 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: can you bring to a project and all that stuff. 563 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 4: And we're lucky, because you're ugly, we have a nice following, 564 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: and I'm so grateful for that. Just so many things 565 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 4: come into play other than just showing up and auditioning 566 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 4: or doing your. 567 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: Job totally, especially because we're in such formative years, like 568 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: learning about ourselves as humans and then all of a sudden, 569 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: millions of people around the world watch us every single week. 570 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know who am I? I am? 571 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: You are? 572 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly we thought we were. 573 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: I think we know those twinkles. 574 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: Or concused us before we let you go. What what 575 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: is the feeling that Glee leaves you with? 576 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: Honestly family, truly, truly, madly, deeply family, and like we're 577 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: all good people formative years. Getting that famous, y'all, getting 578 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: that famous that young is such a recipe for disaster, 579 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: as we all know. But I feel like the majority 580 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 4: of us have so much gratitude and and are so grounded, 581 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: and I would take a bullet for any one of y'all, 582 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: you know, And and the cool thing about Glee is 583 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: every set I've been on since somebody there worked on Glee, 584 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: even if it's the you know, the step photographer or whatever, 585 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: it just feels like everywhere you go you know somebody 586 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: you know. And having all y'all is just uh, I mean, 587 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 4: just think about all the things we've supported each other, 588 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: and like flying to London to see Amber and you know, 589 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: Amber winning the Mass Singer and Amber Winding dancing with 590 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 4: the Stars. 591 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: Wait a second, yeah, I. 592 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: Mean like it's awesome how they support. 593 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that shows up we're lucky. We are lucky. 594 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, fam, well, we. 595 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 3: Are lucky for you and that we got to have 596 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: this wonderful conversation with you today. 597 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: We're so grateful and thank you for being so open. 598 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: And I know it's I think it's it's nice and 599 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: people trust us and this enough to know that they 600 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: can be open and we can therapize together exactly same 601 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: and get it out there. 602 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 603 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 2: He love I love you well. 604 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed part two of Ashley. Thank 605 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to part one and go back, 606 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: because there's a. 607 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Lot of stuff, a lot Ashley, thank you so much 608 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: for being here and being open and honest and sharing 609 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: your I mean roller coaster Glee journey. What a roller coaster. 610 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: We love Ashley. 611 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: I love her. I mean I can't remember a world 612 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: in which she wasn't in it in terms of like Glee, right, 613 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: It's very strange. 614 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm also shook because obviously we know that I don't 615 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: know a lot about Glee. 616 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: That the. 617 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: That she left the Glee Club and then wasn't there 618 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: like it felt like she was always there obviously, because 619 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: she was there behind the scenes we saw at every 620 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: party all the time. But I was really I'm really 621 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: shook that she was only in twenty five episodes. 622 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't compute in my brain. But she's a 623 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: part of our lives forever, correct, and you can't put 624 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: that into episodes. 625 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Jenna Well said Kevin, thanks for joining us. Come back 626 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: next week for another recap. 627 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: Thanks Ashley, and That's what you really missed. Thanks for 628 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: listening and follow us on Instagram at and That's what 629 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: you really miss pod. Make sure to write us a 630 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: review and leave us five stars. See you next time.