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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: I'm from Studio C.

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Speaker 2: See it's a dimly lit room deeper.

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Speaker 1: From the bowels of the Armstrong and Getting Communications Compound

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Speaker 2: There you go, doctor Oz.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to do that.

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Speaker 2: There's no requirement.

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Speaker 1: You picked the most annoying thing in the news for

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Speaker 1: the general manager. You get to choose.

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Speaker 2: You want this job.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of jobs, you want this damn job, this dirty job.

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Speaker 1: Micro wouldn't do this job. It's so dirty picking the

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Speaker 2: We could have gone the whole show without even mentioning it.

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Speaker 1: You meant at the feature point, oh you should see

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Speaker 1: our email, man, holy cow?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, the people noticed and had the

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Speaker 2: What So was the overall take not positive at least

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, I wouldn't call it a scientific survey

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Speaker 1: So I watched my evening newscasts this morning, last nine

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Speaker 1: evening newscast, I thought the lead story everywhere would be

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Speaker 1: on the one thousandth day of the war in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was the lead story of the day,

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Speaker 2: and it was. I watched the news for a long time.

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Speaker 2: No, it was more, it was more concrete than that.

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Speaker 1: They they changed their official nuclear whatever you call protocol

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Speaker 1: So and David SANGERU was writing about it in The

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Speaker 1: That's decent. Colbert's joke was the guy who's gonna the

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Speaker 1: with the whole it's just people he sees on TV.

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Speaker 2: That are on TV to make a lot of voters happen.

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Speaker 1: interior decorator. Is it because Trump sees these people on TV?

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Speaker 1: Or he thinks a lot of voters see these people

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Speaker 1: It's something like that. It's also people he knows, and

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Speaker 1: the way a lot of America sees doctor Oz. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oz is a smart guy. He's going to execute Trump's vision.

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Speaker 1: Bro. So he's pushed a whole bunch of fraudulent diet

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Speaker 1: plans throughout his life to become famous. Yeah, very rich. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Now, he's not that worried about it. It's Trump still

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Speaker 1: Yes, or some entity that he's licensed his does. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: November twentieth, Happy birthday to one Joseph R. Biden, who

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Speaker 3: This morning, it's increasingly clear it is Donald Trump's world

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Speaker 3: and we're just living in it. The most powerful rocket

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Speaker 2: a beautiful clip. It has it all.

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Speaker 1: I love that old budding World War three thing. Ought

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Speaker 1: with your World War stuff. Please. Happy birthday to Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden eighty two, oldest and fit is a fiddle ready

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Speaker 2: How does mailbag look? Oh it's decent enough. Yeah, you'll

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Speaker 2: You got your first trans congress person.

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Speaker 1: It's now they're battling over the whole bathroom thing there

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Speaker 2: Love of the day. There's so much to be said

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Speaker 1: I love this from Aristotle, the Greek philosopher, the thinker.

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Speaker 1: He is wrong about a lot of stuff, but anyway, Wow,

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Speaker 1: anthropologist dude who has a belief that there was a

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Speaker 1: major lost civilization somewhere on planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: That we haven't discovered yet.

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Speaker 1: That explains the giant leap from hunter gathering to agriculture

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Speaker 1: and civilization that happened simultaneously around the world kind of

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden ish in historical terms. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it happened over tens of thousands of years. But given

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Speaker 1: the fact that were humans around for like two million years,

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Speaker 1: why all of a sudden, all of a sudden, were

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Speaker 1: we able to create civilization. He thinks there was a

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Speaker 1: civiilation that grew very solely maybe in Antarctica, and we

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Speaker 1: just have never discovered that it has existence, and it

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Speaker 1: had spread around the world, but then it disappeared, was

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Speaker 1: covered up with ice, and then the lost atlantiss the

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Speaker 1: new idea of the way to live as humans got

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Speaker 1: out there and started.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who knows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you've studied this stuff at all, you

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Speaker 1: know that some of the ancient civilizations and cities and

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Speaker 1: all are super well documented and some aren't. Some you know,

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Speaker 1: it's fairly fragmentary. But clearly there was a giant city

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Speaker 1: and I have not studied this much. Er was one

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Speaker 1: of the first civilized areas in Iraq. I believe but

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Speaker 1: it's not like a ton is known about it. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely imaginable that there was a big, important civilization

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Speaker 1: and the only records that were kept of it were

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Speaker 1: over here and oh, gully of volcano just went off,

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Speaker 1: wrecking the only records that have ever existed. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's also highly unfortunate that most of the oldest civilizations

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Speaker 1: in Egypt and Iraq, and maybe the oldest civilization is

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Speaker 1: in Turkey are in places where everything's so effed up

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Speaker 1: that the world can't really get there and explore it

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Speaker 1: in the way you could if it were like found

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Speaker 1: in Nebraska speaking of certain religions. Yeah, yeah, h. Also,

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Speaker 1: taking in all that information and things about these spreads

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Speaker 1: of time, it, I don't know, it kind of weirds

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Speaker 1: you out from a getting so worked up about your

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Speaker 1: current situation. Hey. Yeah, that's another version of the land

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Speaker 1: on your back and looking at the stars for twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes experience.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I go back and forth on that one.

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Speaker 1: So the so, if human beings have been modern humans

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Speaker 1: have been around for let's say seventy thousand years, thinking

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Speaker 1: and acting exactly like we do, and.

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Speaker 2: Why are you so worried about your today day?

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Speaker 1: Well, because I'm me and my kids are them, and

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Speaker 1: I worry about you know, I want them to be

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Speaker 1: happy and not miserable or in pain. So that seems

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Speaker 1: like a pretty good reason to be concerned about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: question of balance, I think perspective.

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Speaker 2: No balance, all or nothing, one hundred percent or zero.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I do it.

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Speaker 1: So all of that was really interesting in thought provoking,

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Speaker 1: and I thank you for bringing it to us.

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Speaker 2: But what does that have to do with doctor Oz

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Speaker 2: being point? That's what I was trying to avoid having

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Speaker 2: the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Leads doctor Oz mad days blah blah blah, pete hexeth,

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Speaker 1: sexual assault, blah blah. So just briefly for those of

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Speaker 1: you who don't know, and I won't go into it,

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Speaker 1: but we had a personal interaction with doctor Oz that

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Speaker 1: made me hate him for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: He is a dick and I don't like him at all,

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean he wouldn't be good at this job.

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Speaker 1: I don't actually have any idea whether or not he's

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Speaker 1: qualified to do this particular job.

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Speaker 2: I doubt that he is because it's a running medicaid medicare.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what forgive me, friends for using Jack's vocabulary.

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Speaker 1: We should all be better than that, but it's possible.

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Speaker 1: It takes a dick to go into those agencies and

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Speaker 1: turn them around.

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Speaker 2: Possible.

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Speaker 1: And Oz's great sin, which offended mister Armstrong, it mostly amused.

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Speaker 2: Me, but was that he came in and just tried

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Speaker 2: to take control of the radio show.

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Speaker 1: He was there as a guest and said, our screener

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Speaker 1: will screens calls, you sit down, here's the way it's

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Speaker 1: gonna go. We're like, wait a minute, no, but he

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Speaker 1: just seized control.

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Speaker 2: So he's a leader. He's a leader.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's a leader and a dick, but apparently he

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Speaker 1: is used to people saying yes, doctor Oz, yes, sir right,

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Speaker 1: and he gets things that go the way he wants

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Speaker 1: them to go. Oh yeah, I don't know one thing.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be as boring, friends, isn't that the

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Speaker 1: one sin that cannot be forgiven boring? The next couple

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Speaker 1: of years will be interesting. And Bremer made a decent

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Speaker 1: point on his Twitter feed yesterday that before you get

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Speaker 1: two worked up about a lot of these choices, confirmed

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Speaker 1: or not, they won't be around long based on recent history,

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Speaker 1: So whatever you know, it's not like it's for the

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Speaker 1: rest of our lives or all eternity. It's probably a

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Speaker 1: year or two for what it's worth. A love Linda

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Speaker 1: McMahon at the Education Department. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: that because our education system in the US seriously has.

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Speaker 2: It is diseased, seriously diseased.

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Speaker 1: And obviously you know me. I'm on about the radicalization

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Speaker 1: of our children and doctrination in schools which is horrific

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Speaker 1: and horrifically inappropriate. But you know you don't even need

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Speaker 1: to go there. They ain't teaching the kids to read

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Speaker 1: and write, the do arithmetic. Good lord, what are what

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Speaker 1: are those buildings there for? Just to keep the rain

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Speaker 1: off the kids' heads. The turn has happened with college education.

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Speaker 1: Polling shows that now most people realize, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: it's these places are crazy. I'm not sure this is

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Speaker 1: a good idea that the tide turned a lot. Where

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Speaker 1: do you think we are with public school K through twelve?

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Speaker 1: We still have work to do to get people to

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Speaker 1: realize this is way way way off dark Sure are

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Speaker 1: a lot. There are more people that ever homeschooling or

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Speaker 1: doing private schools and have ever been before.

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Speaker 2: COVID hastened that right, right, and and that's that's a

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Speaker 2: big factor.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, there's an awareness campaign

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Speaker 1: that needs to be done growing, But then the fact

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Speaker 1: is that there are not the same alternatives, or the

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Speaker 1: alternatives aren't as easy to take advantage of in elementary

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Speaker 1: education for working families, they got little kids, they're paying

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Speaker 1: their taxes. They think the government set up these schools.

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Speaker 1: I want my kid to learn, you know, homeschooling, private schooling,

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Speaker 1: it's expensive, van door, time consuming. Whereas I've came across

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Speaker 1: another great article from this guy who counsels like the

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Speaker 1: elite high school students of the Northeast who all wanted

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Speaker 1: to go to the Ivy League forever, and he reaffirmed

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Speaker 1: what I saw in the Wall Street Journal. We talked

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Speaker 1: about a little bit. He said, Now, all the lots

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Speaker 1: and lots of these kids, huge numbers of them, their

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Speaker 1: parents are like, Hey, how about Georgia, how about South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida,

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Speaker 1: where kids go to school to learn and like drink

567
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Speaker 1: a little beer on the weekend and try to get laid.

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Speaker 1: How about that as opposed to marching in favor of

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Speaker 1: Hamas all the damn time. Yeah, Plus, your future employer

570
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Speaker 1: has not seen this campus on the evening news being nuts, right,

571
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Speaker 1: which they assume you went to Tennessee to get a

572
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Speaker 1: degree in whatever you got a degree in, not in

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Speaker 1: radical studies. Right. Yeah, that's a good one. Hating capitalism.

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Speaker 2: We've got Katie's headlines on the way and a.

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Speaker 1: Lot more arstrow.

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Speaker 2: Hey yetty, why a bg som?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why? Who's killing off Beg's drummers? Two

578
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Speaker 1: Beg's drummers have died within four days.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Their original drummer and the drummer that followed him, both

581
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Speaker 1: in their late seventies, both died in the last four days.

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Speaker 1: Little strange, little too much for a coincidence. Not staying alive,

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Speaker 1: not staying alive a decent point. Wow, sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh well, we could certainly discuss that more if

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Speaker 1: you'd like, But perhaps next hour, let's figure out who's

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Speaker 1: reporting what it's the lead, starting with Katie Green, starting.

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Speaker 5: With ABC News, reports suggest Gates said over ten thousand

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Speaker 5: dollars in VENMO payments to two women who testified in

589
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Speaker 5: house probe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so for the sancture to keep them from talking.

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Speaker 1: Do we think oh? Either both It's easy to forget

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Speaker 1: that prostitution is illegal virtually everywhere, and certainly in Florida.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's easy to forget, but I'll

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Speaker 1: take your word for it. Well, because everybody's concentrating on

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Speaker 1: the underage or whatever. If the guy just, you know,

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Speaker 1: concerts with hose, that's going to be controversial for an

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Speaker 1: Attorney general appointee. I know somebody you're saying, yeah that

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Speaker 1: Justice Vardon and under Biden's been crooked as hell and

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Speaker 1: engaged in lawf era. I'd rather have a guy who

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Speaker 1: gets with hose. They do subverts the Constitution, and it's

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Speaker 1: not an unfair point from USA.

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Speaker 5: Today, United States shuts kiv Imboss embassy due to quote

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Speaker 5: potential significant air attack.

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Speaker 1: Things are deaf heating up in the whole Russia Ukraine war.

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Speaker 1: With the attack i'm's being used now and Biden announcing

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Speaker 1: today the land mines putin changing is nuclear doctrine, and

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Speaker 1: you know, one hundred thousand possibly North Korean troops coming.

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Speaker 1: Significant majority of Ukrainians also say, hey, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: negotiating and ending this thing. So everybody's sprinting to get

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Speaker 1: to the best place before they sit down at the

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Speaker 1: bargaining table. Yeah, we got more on that later.

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Speaker 5: From the New York Times, US envoy will head to Israel,

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Speaker 5: citing progress on Lemon Lebanon ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: Another fun thing for the Trump administration to inherit and

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Speaker 1: try to work out.

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Speaker 5: From the Associated Press, fifty one year old man is

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Speaker 5: charged with murder after three are stabbed in New York

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Speaker 5: City rampage.

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Speaker 1: God, what a heart. Yeah, and it's mentally ill. Bombed

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Speaker 1: and arrested nine times this year, and they just kept

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Speaker 1: turning loose and turn them loose. In a related story,

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Speaker 1: Alvin braggsy about to get re elected. The stabber, the

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Speaker 1: knife wielded maniac had been arrested nine times this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And even Eric Adams was like, why was this

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Speaker 5: guy still.

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Speaker 1: On the street?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think about that.

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Speaker 1: And in a related story, da, Alvin Bragg's gonna get

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Speaker 1: re elected? Good Lord, Manhattan, have you lost your minds?

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Speaker 5: From the Wall Street Journal, American companies are stalking up

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Speaker 5: to get ahead of Trump's China tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, building up inventories.

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Speaker 5: From the Daily Mail, Biden dodges reporters and MISSUS photo

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Speaker 5: ops to secure quote super lame duck status on world stage.

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Speaker 2: Boy, he is that the lamest of all ducks.

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Speaker 1: From NBC.

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Speaker 5: Trump names former wrestling executive Linda McMahon as his pick

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Speaker 5: for Education Secretary.

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Speaker 1: Love the choice. We'll discuss next hour. We have your

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Speaker 1: meme of the day.

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Speaker 5: It's the picture of Trump and Elon and RFK Junior

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Speaker 5: on the plane with the McDonald's where RFK looks super

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Speaker 5: uncomfortable and it says, making sure the new gang member

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Speaker 5: does drugs to make sure he's not an undercover cop.

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Speaker 2: That's good, funny, perfect, And finally, the.

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Speaker 5: Babylon b experts predict every liberal will soon be on

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Speaker 5: their own individual social media platform to prevent encountering wrong opinions.

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Speaker 2: There you go, oh boy, that's good.

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Speaker 1: So how big and sprawling and ineffective is the federal

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Speaker 1: government and what can be done about it? Our seam

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Speaker 1: Next hour. You don't get Next hour. Grab the podcast

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Geddy on demand.