1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: HiT's Thursday, March fourth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours. Jack 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Wars Happy Hour is presented by Duval Motor Company. And 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: now a guy who's college nickname was the Poutine Dream, 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: shay T. Shackvill. Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Logman, and we have a busy program today, the 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: calm before the storm. The free agency storm is a 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks away. It's eerily quiet right now. We'll 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: see what happens in the coming week with the franchise 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: hag window closing next week, and then of course all 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: heck could break loose once the teams start trimming players 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: free agency. Right around the corner. Were eight weeks away 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft starting in Cleveland, Ohio, so two 13 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: months ahead of draft talk, and we'll go around the 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: National Football League. Jeff Lackerman with us from his home 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: studio today as he is every week, and here we 16 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: are Logs. You know, this is an early quiet time 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: around the Jags. There's not a lot of news coming 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: out of this place right now, but in two weeks 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: time that should change. It may be quiet for us 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: and for most fans, but make no mistake about it. 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Inside the building, it is incredibly noisy. They have a 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: lot going on. They're trying to figure out exactly which 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: direction that they're gonna go in free agency. They're trying 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: to figure out who's going to be available in free agency. 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: They're trying to stack their draft boards position by position 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and overall and uh and they're trying to do it 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: with a with a new staff. I mean so um. 28 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I think when you have an organization that has kind 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: of been operating for a couple of years, are a 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: number of years and has been efficient, it's probably there's 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a comfort zone. But when 32 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: you have a new coach, a new design of the organization, 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: a new general manager, and some new components to the 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: personnel staff besides the general manager, there's a lot going on. 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: It's just that we're not hearing about it. But trust 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: me that Jaguars have a lot going on and they're 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: working their rear ends off right now. And I think, well, 38 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: we'll see the fruits of that labor soon. You would 39 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: think that early in free agency, the first day or two, 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: since the Jaguars have the most money to spend in 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, that there will be players, because they have 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: plenty of needs that could be helped by a veteran 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: free agent player to come in right away and play well. 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: And and you know, JP, to be honest with you know, 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: you kind of wonder sometimes when when Shot Khan made 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: the decision to clean house and then all of a sudden, 47 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: with the conversation that he had with the media about 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the change and how he felt it was needed, and 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: he talked about how much he was involved in the 50 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: decision making throughout all of last year leading up to 51 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the point where we're at right now. You sit there 52 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: and you go, you know, he might be smarter than 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people give him credit for. 54 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And that you know, you have a situation here to 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: where you have an amazingly attractive situation. You have an 56 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: organization that is flushed with cap space, that has acquired 57 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: great draft picks and uh and also the timing of 58 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: that with no pushing. And I'm not saying that he 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: predicted COVID, but I'm just saying that with COVID in 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: the situation that is upon us right now, boy, I mean, 61 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: there's probably not a more a more attractive new situation 62 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: in the National Football League than with the Jaguars have so, 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to attract what he viewed 64 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: as the best of the best in Urban Meyer. Obviously 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: it worked tremendously, but you know, you just wonder, you know, 66 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: what was some of the decisions and you go back 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and really were some of the decisions that we've seen 68 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of put in play here in the last couple 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: of months, where some of these decisions may be made 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: maybe longer than that ago, and that now we're just 71 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: starting to we're only getting a glimpse of really what 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: is happening of the inner workings of this organization. But look, 73 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are in in the catbird seat, so to speak. 74 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: This might be the one year in the NFL's history 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: that you can improve your team more so maybe than 76 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: in the other year because of what's going to happen 77 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: with the cap situation. You're gonna see a lot of 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: people that are gonna be out of work, and the 79 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: asking price of a lot of these people that are 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna be out of work, I think it's gonna drop significantly. 81 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: And so if you're a team that has cap space 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: that has needs, which the Jaguars certainly fall into, both 83 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: of those categories, you are in a great position to 84 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: acquire talent and in a great position to improve your 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: football team. And I'm gonna tell you this, JP, they 86 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: would be crazy not to try to improve their football team, 87 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: because the last thing in the world that you want 88 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: to do is to try to do something like what 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: they did or what Dave calledwell and Gus Bradley back 90 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: in and that was to build through the draft and 91 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: build through you From looking I'm not saying that can't work, 92 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: but you've got to be able to support a young 93 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: quarterback who's going to be coming into this organization. You've 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: got to support them, and you support them by putting 95 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: good players around them. I'm curious, two legs, once these 96 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: deals start becoming public, once the newly year hits and 97 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: free agency opens for business and deals are made and 98 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: contracts are signed, what kind of deals might we see? 99 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: Will the will the players want maybe a shorter deal, 100 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: and then once this cap expands again a year or 101 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: two out, maybe they get a little more of the 102 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: piece of the pie. I wonder how much of that 103 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: would happen this year. I think it's gonna depend on 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: the player. You know, if you're talking about a veteran player. Look, 105 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: you know you look, you're trying to You're trying to 106 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: maximize it. You know, if you've got one contract left, 107 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: You're like, look, I've got to get all I can 108 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: get right now. I've got to get as much upfront 109 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: money as possible because this is my last go round. 110 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go ahead and enter the dance again 111 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: in free agency. Whereas if it's a if it's a 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: young player and there are some free agents, and the 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks have one in Griffin the quarterback, who is 114 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: essentially I think five years old and he's entering free agency, 115 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: well for him, look, he he might have two contracts, 116 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: maybe three contracts, depending on the length of the deals 117 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: that he signs in his future. So for I think 118 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: a younger player, it would probably be more beneficial to 119 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: do a shorter term deal because if you look at 120 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: what some of the moneys are being reported about, what 121 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: is the spected TV revenue contracts coming in out around 122 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: two billion a year. I mean, you would be absolutely 123 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: crazy if if you're gonna do anything longer than a 124 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: year or two because you want to get back in 125 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: free agency again when the TV money is bumped number 126 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 1: one and number two when the gates are back open 127 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: again and teams are making money and concessions and ticketing 128 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: and parking and everything else. You know. So, I think 129 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: it all just depends on the player in the situation 130 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: that that player is dealing with JP. But man, if 131 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: if I'm a young guy just entering free h C 132 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: and I've got you know, I'm not thinking that I'm 133 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna be done for until another seven or eight years. Man, 134 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna sign a short term deal and 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: then try to cash in with a big deal like 136 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. Once the COVID situation subside, 137 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: TV money has jumped and things get back to being 138 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more normal to be able to cash 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: in again on another contract very soon. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour. 140 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: That's Jeff lug One. I'm J P. Shadrick. We're on 141 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Tin Tin Am Radio and Jacksonville and on the Jaguar 142 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: social media pages each Thursday afternoon. We were talking about 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: this on another podcast earlier this week, Logs. You know, 144 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: the the idea of how many new players will be 145 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: on this final fifty three roster after training camp. It's 146 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: a one in fifteen team. It's a new coach, it's 147 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: a new GM. They want to make it in their 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: own likeness. So my idea was like, thirty of the 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: fifty three might be new faces to the organization next year. 150 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Does that sound about right to you? Well, it could be. 151 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: And well the reason I said that because there's eleven 152 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: draft picks free agents coming, you know, undrafted guys that 153 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna keep around. It's you're you're pushing a lot 154 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: of new guys right there. The one thing that JP look, 155 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean it very well could be. I mean, you 156 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: could have thirty new faces easily with with fifty three 157 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: man roster. And then reality, you're not really just talking 158 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: about a fifty three man roster. You've got to expanded 159 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: practice squads and in a much more liberal situation because 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I think the code rules are not going away in 161 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: one They're still gonna be around, so your roster is 162 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: really much bigger than But with that being said, I 163 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: think that you could see a significant change. I mean, 164 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: you can see thirty new faces very easily, but that's 165 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: not just out of fifty three. That's out of a 166 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: much bigger number with practice squad and everything else. And 167 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: I think though, that the organization has to be really careful. 168 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: And when I say careful, I'm not trying to say 169 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: that that they're going to do something and and and 170 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: mess it up. But what I mean by as far 171 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: as the age structure, you know, your football team that 172 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: you have right now, the way it is right now, 173 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: is incredibly young. You've got eleven draft picks that are 174 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: sitting right there for you to you and I think 175 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: at some stage of the game you need to start 176 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: thinking how young do we really want our football team 177 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: to be? And because you know, you're gonna have a 178 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: great opportunity to be able to acquire talent and free 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: agency because of the number of people that are going 180 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: to be looking for work because of cat situations with 181 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: other teams, so you're gonna be able to fill a 182 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of those spots with free agency. Do you want 183 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: to add another eleven rookies to a football team that 184 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: was already the youngest roster in the National Football League 185 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: last year or would it make more sense to take 186 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: the eleven draft picks that you have, maybe package some 187 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: of them together to move up for one picks, in 188 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: other words, trade two picks for one that may be 189 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: higher in the draft, or trade three picks for one 190 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: that may be higher or jp. The even better situation 191 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: might be is to trade one of this year's draft 192 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: picks for a higher pick in two in a draft 193 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: where you're you don't have quite as much equally, so 194 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: build equity towards the future. And if you're the gentlemanager, 195 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: you've got to be sitting there thinking that would be 196 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: a perfect situation because we're gonna be able to approve 197 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: our football team and for you agency, we're available and 198 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: going to be able to do it reasonably from a 199 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: financial standpoint. We have a ton of draft picks from 200 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: last year, and it depends on how they like them 201 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: or how they don't like those type of guys. And 202 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: then with the draft picks that you have now, leverage 203 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: them into higher picks or future picks to keep the 204 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: aide structure of your roster where you want it to be, 205 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: which is a little bit more mature and not so young, 206 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: so plenty to dissect. And that's exactly what they've been 207 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: doing since they arrived in the office here, getting ready 208 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: for the next few weeks. Free agency coming up two 209 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: weeks away from yesterday, and then we're eight weeks from 210 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. We're back in a moment. We'll hear 211 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: a little bit from Reese Davis ESPN. He joined us today. 212 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: We'll hear the full interview on Monday on Jaguars dot com. 213 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: He has a long history covering college football and some 214 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on Urban Meyer and his shift to the National 215 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Football League and a couple of tight end free agents. 216 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: Will go through those guys as well, and we'll go 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: around the league a little later. We're off and running 218 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: a Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Fimal 219 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: Hospital has always been about helping animals with same day appointments, 220 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: walk ins and extended hours. Keeping your pets healthy is 221 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:30,239 Speaker 1: important to their experienced and dedicated staff. From preventive care, surgical, diagnostic, 222 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: and emergency procedures. They offer quality pet care at a 223 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: reasonable cost. Your pets deserve the best, and that's Forever Vetts. 224 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Visit Forever Vetts dot com to learn more and book 225 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: your first free office exam today. They can't wait to 226 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: have you as a part of the Forever Vets family. 227 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Floridians know what it means to stand together. That's why 228 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: Florida Blue is committed to the people of Florida by 229 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: providing healthcare with lower costs and higher quality. Enroll within 230 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: sixty days of life changing events such as losing your job. 231 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: To get benefits like plans as is zero dollars a 232 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: month and up to five dollars per year towards your 233 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: premiums and wellness rewards, call one eight hundred seven five 234 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: zero zero or visit Florida Blue dot com slash care today. 235 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: Florida Blue is a trade name of Blue Cross and 236 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Blue Shield of Florida Incorporated. These help benefit plans have 237 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: limitations and exclusions. It's the Good Greek Spireau and I 238 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: am proud to announced that Good Greek Moving of Storage 239 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: is now the official mover of your Jacksonville Jaguars. The 240 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars are making all of the right moves and you 241 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: should too. So when it's time for you to move, 242 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: do it like the judge or call it good Greek. 243 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Simply now start start Greek from yourself. I'll go to 244 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: good Greek dot com. That's good Greek dot com, Good 245 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: Greek Moving and Storage, official movers of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 246 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: Greek more on movies. Welcome to a new era of 247 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars football. The reload has begun, beginning with new head 248 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: coach Urban Mile. When you grab a seat in this 249 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: beautiful stadium, you're gonna see a team play really fast. 250 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: Want a team to place your liss don't miss out 251 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: on the best seats before they're gone. Lock in your 252 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: tickets now for the season by placing a deposit at 253 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. Proven I implements a strategic game plan 254 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: designed to streamline your business from maximum results. Make the 255 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: winning choice with the official business systems partner of the 256 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Proven I. Proven Its technology experts use a 257 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: customized approach to understand how to design, implement, and monitor 258 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: solutions that optimize your business. Proven It provides managed network services, 259 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: document management solutions, office technology, voice and data solutions, and more. 260 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Visit proven it dot com to see how they can 261 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: streamline your business. Proven It transforming workplace productivity. You won't 262 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: find a better deal to keep your right clean than 263 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Struggles Flexible service car wash starting the tunnel wash and 264 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: experienced state of the art equipment while enjoying a sop 265 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: light show. Our quality soaps and solutions keep your vehicle 266 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: street free every three minute. Car washpack. It comes to 267 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: self serve vacuuming, limp, free towels, window cleaner, and a 268 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: free air freshener. Visit us at the St. John's Town Center, 269 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: Fleming Island and Atlantic feat and coming soon to curtain 270 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: in Atlantic. Trust the bow Tie. You'll know quality once 271 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: you arrived. Go Jacks. Jaguar's Happy Hour is presented in 272 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: part by t i A, a bank created to serve, 273 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Bill to perform public where shopping is a pleasure and 274 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: Baptist Health changing healthcare for good, elevating. He elevated it 275 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: from you know, just being a good or the best 276 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: big end programs, being one of the best programs in 277 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: the country. And that's what that's what he's done consistently 278 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: at the college level. So I would agree with you 279 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: in terms of of his legacy, I mean, Saban stands 280 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: apart from everybody, But I would say Urban and Uh, 281 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: because he's done it more than one place. He also 282 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: won at Ukon. He wanted full and green for that 283 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: mad repin everywhere. But I would say that in terms 284 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: of impact on the sport and changing the shape of 285 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: the sport, and Nick would be at the top. Urban 286 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: would certainly be right there, but I'd also put Devil 287 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Sweeney in that category as well. That's Reese Davis. ESPN 288 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: College Game Day hosts joined us earlier today. This full 289 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: conversation will come up Monday on Jaguars dot Com and 290 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Jack's social channels. So we appreciate Reese for his time, 291 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: and uh, well we'll get a little more into the 292 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: conversation of Urban's legacy as a college head coach. And 293 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: uh there's little conversation logs about a certain quarterback for 294 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: a certain university in South Carolina, Trevor Lawrence. So plenty 295 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: of conversation with Reese coming up. He's been at this 296 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: for a long time, so look for that coming up 297 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: early next week. Earlier this offseason, we had right after 298 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: the hiring of Urban Meyer, Um Kirk Herb Street. We're 299 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: just gonna go for the whole College Game Day crew logs. 300 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Why not get them all on here? Why not? I 301 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: mean JP, I mean, look, look, I think it's great 302 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: and and and here's the thing, and everybody that you 303 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: talked to when when you start talking about two people, 304 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: which is Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence, they have nothing 305 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: but great things to say about them. As far as 306 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: the quality of coach and the quality of where looking. 307 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: And many people may like or not like certain personalities 308 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: of one or the other, but the reality is is 309 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: that if you're sitting there trying to evaluate Urban Meyer 310 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: as a coach, there's no debate that he's one of 311 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: the best football coaches that there is on the planet, 312 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: and that Trevor Lawrence is one of the best quarterbacks 313 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: that there is on the planet right now when it 314 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: comes to college football. And I was sleep we gotta 315 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: wait and see how the transition goes to the National 316 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: Football League level, but many people expect that to not 317 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: to be a very difficult transition. So look, there's a 318 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: lot of things to be excited about and a lot 319 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: of reason to be excited, and and look, I'm right 320 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: in that boat. You know, you've got a coach who's 321 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: approven commodity. And this kind of reminds me going back 322 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: to nine when Jimmy Johnson made the jump from the 323 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: University of Miami to the Dallas Cowboys, and I was 324 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: actually able to see some of that firsthand with Jimmy, 325 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: because that was pretty cool. JP. When I was a 326 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: senior and getting ready for the draft, I participated in 327 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: a couple of All Star games, one of them being 328 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: the Blue Gray which JP you know all about the 329 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: Crampton Bowl in Montgomery. Yeah, absolutely, it was. Yeah, it 330 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly uh you know, uh posh or anything of 331 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: that nature. I can say that, but it was good 332 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: football and it was competitive and uh yeah, there wasn't 333 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: a whole lot go on on and it was a 334 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: Christmas Day thing, so it wasn't exactly where you wanted 335 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: to be, but nonetheless it to look at the competition 336 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: and when we played ball, let's go and so it 337 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: was a great experience for me. But the East West 338 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: Shrine Game was something that was really nice. You know, 339 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: they took great care of us. It was a about 340 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: ten steps up from a Blue Gray game. It was 341 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: in Palo Alto, California, and it was almost dangerous because 342 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: they gave us they had vehicles that were for the 343 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: use of the players that came there. So we had 344 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: about four or five of us of guys that were 345 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: players and and we had a van and we end 346 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: up going out quite a bit. And one of the 347 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: coaches on our staff was Jimmy Johnson, and at this 348 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: time Jimmy wasn't named as the head coach of the 349 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Yet he was still just one of the 350 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: coaches on the staff of the of the East squad 351 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: of the East West Shrine Game, and Mike Godfried was 352 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: our head coach, and so got a chance to hang 353 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: out with Jimmy quite a bit, and he was relaxed, 354 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and nobody knew that he was gonna be taking the 355 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys job at that time, and maybe he knew that, No, 356 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: we didn't know, and uh, and so it was cool 357 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: to spend some time around him. And I've gotten to 358 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: know Jimmy through the years, and he's an outstanding coach. No, 359 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: a couple of guys and Daryl Johnson and Mark Stepanovski 360 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: that played for him for a very long time and 361 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: they had nothing but glowing things to say about him 362 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: as far as him being a coach and getting a 363 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: team to win. And so, I mean, some of those 364 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: same things I think are the reason that people are 365 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: excited about Urban Meyer and Jacksonville. You know, you've got 366 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: a great situation. You're flush with draft picks. The Jimmy 367 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: Johnson situation created it with the Herschel Walker trade. So 368 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a trade to get all the 369 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: draft picks, as you've already got them, but but the 370 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: excitement for the coach and also the expectations and the 371 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: excitement for a quarterback coming in. You know, Troy Then 372 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: coming in the Dallas Cowboys and here you got Trevor 373 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence coming into the Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to be 374 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: coming in. You know, there's so many different parallels. It's 375 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: gonna be excited, exciting to kind of watch the growth 376 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: of the entire thing and eventually down the road and 377 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: maybe hopefully draw comparisons of the two. It will be. 378 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, we were I was talking to Research Davis 379 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: earlier today and it was we're going through some of 380 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: the things, the choke that we were going through, some 381 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: of the coaches that have gone from college to the NFL, 382 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: and there's been some positives you mentioned Jimmy Johnson Switzer 383 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: came in. It was kind of a already set up 384 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: and ready, but he still had to go in the 385 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he did that. Uh, Pete Carroll, your 386 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: guy obviously had success. But then you can go the 387 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: other way, right, Spurrier didn't last long, didn't work out well. 388 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Saban They won some games, but just not enough that 389 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: they didn't have the right quarterback down there in Miami 390 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: when he was there. The Alabama thing might not have 391 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: ever happened if Drew Brees shows up in Miami. So, 392 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's kind of a feeling right now. 393 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: There was an initial buzz nationally over the Urban Meyer hiring, 394 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: but then I don't I don't feel that national buzz 395 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: about Urban right now. I mean, maybe it's there's so 396 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: much other stuff going on in the league right now, 397 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: free agencies coming up. But I think maybe once they 398 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: get back on the field again, maybe it'll hop back. 399 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: And you know, the first week, if they they're winning 400 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: football games, I think that will really shine again. Yeah, 401 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the buzz has has 402 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: subsided at all. JP. It's just that the conversation about 403 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: the National Football League has almost taken a little bit 404 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: of a break on most people's minds. And when the 405 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: topic comes back to the National Football League, trust me, 406 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and the Jacksonville Jaguars, they're gonna be right 407 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: back at the top of that conversation. And you know, 408 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: and it's interesting, you know, you you brought up some 409 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: guys that some have made great, successful transitions from college 410 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: to pros. Some that haven't made successful transitions from the 411 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: college to pros. And you brought up Pete Carroll, and 412 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll looked. The reality is that Pete Carroll uh 413 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: started at the University of Pacific and then he was 414 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator when I was with the Jets back 415 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: in the early days. Eventually he was the head coach 416 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: and was not successful with the Jets, and then eventually 417 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: he leaves there, and then he goes the Page Rates 418 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: and he wasn't successful there. He goes to USC and 419 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: he was incredibly successful there, and obviously you have the 420 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: ability to recruit and so it's not a level playing 421 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: field of college football. Well, then he goes to Seattle 422 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: and he's kind of average, and then all of a 423 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: sudden he gets quarterback in Russell Wilson and then he 424 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl. You know Bill Belichick, I mean, 425 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: you could look Bill Belichick the same thing, longtime coach 426 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: of Cleveland Browns. Didn't really have a great quarterback with Cleveland, 427 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he gets Tom Brady, 428 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: which is many people considered the goat, and then he 429 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: just starts winning super Bowl after super Bowl after super 430 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: Bowl and who who what? What? What quarterback did Nick 431 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Saban have? I mean Nick Saban had Dan Reno, but 432 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: it was Dan Reno at the end of his reign 433 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: and there was absolutely no other help on that roster 434 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: for Nick Saban to win with. So, uh, look, Howard Snellenberg. 435 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of college coaches that may transition, 436 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: and the one important factor for all of these guys 437 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: that make them the move from college that pros that 438 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: you've got to have a quarterback. And I always say 439 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: this when you start talking about coaching, and I understand 440 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: that coaching matters, but also the other part of that 441 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: reality is if you look at all the Hall of 442 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Fame coaches that exist in the in the in the 443 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, how many coaches are in 444 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame that don't have a 445 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback? There's not many come hand in hand, now, 446 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: there's really there's not many. I mean Joe Gibbs, I mean, 447 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: because Joe Gibbs one with three different with with Doug 448 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Williams and Joe Thiesman and Jay Schrader, you know so, 449 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: But I mean the rest of the coaches. I mean, 450 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about guys that had Hall of Fame quarterbacks 451 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: to help them win Super Bowls. And so with irban Meyer. Look, 452 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: urban Meyer is no dummy, and herban Meyer knows that 453 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: if you're gonna win in the National Football League. And 454 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: he said it in one of his interviews, and he 455 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: talks about football being a quarterback sport, and he emphasized 456 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: that it wasn't just about being at the National Football 457 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: League level. He essentially said that it means and everything 458 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: and it's important for everything at every level of football, 459 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: from Pewhee to high school, lunge two pros. And he 460 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: hit it right on the head there. I've got to 461 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: correct you on one note though, Um you mentioned what 462 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: say but at Miami you said Marino. Marino was done 463 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: in Remember the Jags beat him in the playoff game. 464 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: That was his final game. He retired at that point. 465 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: Saban got there in oh five, and his quarterbacks the 466 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: first year we're gust Farott and Sades rosen Fells. And 467 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: then in two thousand and six the quarterbacks in Miami 468 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: were Joey Harrington and Cleo Lemon Boy some real right, 469 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: who was the uh? Who was the coach for Dan 470 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: Reno's last year, for my Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson, Actually 471 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: I got confused. I'm sorry. I knew it was a 472 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: former college coach. But I mean, even the great Jimmy Johnson, 473 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: great of a coach is he is, he has Dan 474 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: Marino and he but still he doesn't win. So but 475 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: Nick Saban had no chance with those quarterbacks JP, no chance. 476 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: They've gotten breeze maybe, and they were close to getting them. 477 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: They just didn't work out down there and the rest. Hey, look, 478 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: if I had those quarterbacks, man, I would be I 479 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: would be turning around and running back to college football 480 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: at the speed of light. Get out of here quick, 481 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: because you know what when I get when I get 482 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: back to college football, JP, Okay, I'm gonna go recruit 483 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the country. Okay, done work that 484 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: way in the National Football League. You know, you keep 485 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: you keep swinging and keep trying to get your guy. Okay, 486 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: but you're not guaranteed of getting that guy in college football. 487 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Guess what if you're Nick Saban, If you walk into 488 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: this young man's house over here, and you say, hey, man, 489 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm Nick Saban, and I'm gonna win at the University 490 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: of Alabama. That young man who might be the best 491 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: quarterback in the country. Guess what, you ain't gonna hope 492 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: you can get him in the draft. All you gotta 493 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: do is convincing. Come on over here, young man, You're 494 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: gonna win with me. And that's the difference between the 495 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: pro game and the college game. Plenty ahead, we'll come 496 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: back in a moment. Free agency around the corner. We'll 497 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: touch on a couple of pending free agents that play 498 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: tight end position and one that Logs absolutely loves and 499 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: is loved for years in this division. Could he be available? 500 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: We'll find out a little later. Some Trevor Lawrence rehab 501 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: talk and quarterback rankings are starting to shuffle now and 502 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: the pre draft talk. We'll get your thoughts on Chris 503 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Simms list. Oh that's ahead, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on 504 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars fans, here's a great way 505 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: to pay with pride wherever you go, exclusively from t 506 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I A a Bank. The Jacksonville Jaguars Visa debit card 507 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: comes with a fierce look at fantastic features along with 508 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: the convenience to make purchases online or a millions of 509 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: locations worldwide, and it's yours free when you open a 510 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: yield pledge checking account. Order yours today. Visit t I 511 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: A A bank dot com slag jags card t I 512 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: A Bank. It's the vision of t I A a 513 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: f s B member fd I C and the official 514 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: bank of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Headquartered right here in Jacksonville, 515 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: the c s I Companies is one of the fastest 516 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: growing staffing firms in the nation. As a proud partner 517 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: of your Jacksonville Jaguars, c s I knows how important 518 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: it is to find the right people for your team, Cey. 519 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: Some of Jacksonville's top companies choose c s I for 520 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: their staffing needs. Visit the c s I Companies dot 521 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: com or called eight hundred five eight to zero eight 522 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: to eight today. That's eight hundred five eight two zero 523 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: eight to eight for the c s I Companies. Jaguars fans, 524 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: did you know that with Drizzly you can get Tito's 525 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: handmade vodka delivered to your door and under sixty minutes. 526 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Well you can, and now they're giving all fans ten 527 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: dollars off their first order. Use the code jags tan 528 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: at checkout. Just download the Drizzly app or go to 529 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: drizzly dot com and make sure you're all set to 530 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 1: mix it up with Tito's handmade vodka for the perfect 531 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: game day. That's d r i z l y dot 532 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: com and remember to use the special code JAG's ten 533 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: to save ten dollars on your first order eighty proof 534 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Tino's handmade Vodka, distilled unbottled in Austin, Texas, tracted to 535 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: be savored responsibly at Tropical Smoothie Cafe. One taste and 536 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: you're feeling good now, smiling wider now, seeing brighter now, 537 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: bucket duncan now now I'm a stay in now, popping 538 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: a wheelie now, living lighter now. You're on tropic time 539 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: now and on Monday's try our Jaguars do voll De 540 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Light Smoothies for two and you're roaring louder now, end 541 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: zone dancing now, Sip and spirit now, You're on tropic 542 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: time now at Tropical Smoothie Cafe. Why live with foot 543 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: or ankle pain. If you have persistent pain, numbness, tingling, 544 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: burning pain on the bottom of your foot, or swelling 545 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't improve with home treatment, it may be time 546 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: to see Jacksonville orthopede againstitute. Our foot and ankle specialists 547 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: have innovative new options to help you get back in 548 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: the swing of things without persistent name that slows you 549 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: down called j o I two thousand or go to 550 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: j o I online dot net Foreign Appointment. With over 551 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: one hundred years of experience, Duvo Motor Company knows experience 552 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: counts both on the field and under the hood. That's 553 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: why all of their service departments are staffed by certified 554 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: professionals who'd say pride in servicing any make and model, 555 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: not just the vehicles they sell. Keeping your vehicles on 556 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: the road is what drives du Val Motor Company. They 557 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: know how much you depend on your car, and you 558 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: can depend on them to put service first, any make, 559 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: any model, any location. Du Val Motor Company dot com. 560 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Altum is presented in part by Dream Finders 561 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: Homes Homes that fit your lifestyle, Next Grill Everyone's Invited 562 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: and a Deco Visit a Deco USA dot com. Welcome 563 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Duval Motor Company 564 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: and Welcome to a new era of Jaguars Football. The 565 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: reload has begun with new head coach Irvan Meyer. Go 566 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: miss out on the best seats before they're gone. Lock 567 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: in your tickets now for the season and place a 568 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: deposit at Jaguars dot com. Welcome back, j P. Shadrick, 569 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Lagavan, Glad you're along with us today. And by 570 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: the way, um you know, check out the Official Jaguars 571 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. It's available on Apple, iTunes, Spotify or wherever 572 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: fine podcasts are downloaded lives. I know you're subscribed to that, 573 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: so thank you for that. We appreciate that. All the 574 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: five stars, all the comments, everything. So this show is 575 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: also always um archived as a podcast. We have the 576 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Huddle Up Podcast on Wednesdays now with Bucky Brooks, John 577 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Osier and yours truly, and then on Monday's Jaguars Reporters, 578 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: So Sexton, Ashlon Sullivan, O'shan and I are on that one. Uh, 579 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: you're on this one. Longs. We've got Tuesday morning drive time, 580 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: which is fine, and then Friday we have the The 581 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Jags Broadcast Weekend Review presented by t I A. Bank. 582 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on on the podcast world 583 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: now for the Jags, and even when it's kind of quiet, like, 584 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: we still have all these shows going on, which is 585 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: a good thing, and it will only grow once we 586 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: get closer to the NFL Draft in the next two months, 587 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: will be a lot more content to put out their logs. Well, JP, 588 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: I can honestly say that I'm I'm a big fan 589 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: of you, like anything that you do. Yeah, I'm I'm 590 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a I'm a subscriber, I'm a fan, and 591 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm a big JP shadrack. How about that. 592 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That's not what I was going for. 593 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: There It okay, I'll take it, Thank you me. And 594 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell the truth. I mean, look, 595 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: here's a thing, you know. I mean, with the phones 596 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: that we have nowadays, I mean, look, you've got no 597 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: excuse to not be up to date on everything that 598 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are going through. JP s. It's not me, 599 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's the whole team, team effort, team effort, 600 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: And we have a plenty of different shows on this, 601 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: on this website and on the podcast network. You can 602 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: check it out. Hey, let's um, let's shift gears quickly 603 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: here tight ends in free agency. You know, we've we've 604 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: touched on that position group over and over and over again. 605 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: How it's been such an issue around here to not 606 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: have anybody really stick. I mean, they've gone through the 607 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, the Austin Seferian Jenkins of the world, Tyler 608 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Effort most recently, and none of them really quite have 609 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: worked out as anticipated. It tied end. They've tried to 610 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: draft and that hasn't worked out. Josh Oliver's been banged up, 611 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to play. So now it's you know, 612 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: at some point you gotta figure this thing out. And 613 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: and Bucky made a pretty good point the other other 614 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: week on the Huddle Up podcast, Bucky Brooks, and you know, 615 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: having tight ends is great, but you have to have 616 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: a history and a way to use the tight ends effectively. 617 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: And I think the match of that do And can 618 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: leave leave the graphic up for a minute because because 619 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: I want to go through some of these guys here 620 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: real quick, because I got a thought on each one 621 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: of them. Tyler Davis was a draft pick last year 622 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: that disappointed big time and uh, and so his opportunity 623 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: to make the roster this year I think is a doubt. 624 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Eifer, as a veteran guy. You know, he was okay, 625 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: but I mean the reality is that you're not paying 626 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: for what you're getting. You need to go get somebody 627 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: that's that's young, that's got speed, that can threaten the 628 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: middle and threatened the deep part of the field. Ben 629 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: Ellison is a guy that I like. I think he's 630 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: got a real chance. I think he's much better than 631 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: Tyler Davis. All you have to do is look at 632 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: how many times that Ellison was active compared to Tyler Davis. 633 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: Last year, James of Shaughnessy was essentially playing on one leg. 634 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: Eric Salbert was kind of an afterthought because they weren't 635 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: getting anything out of Tyler Davis. And they bring Salbert in, 636 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: who had been around a little bit, and he becomes 637 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of on the line type of tight end. And 638 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver is very intriguing because you know, what can 639 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: he do? We don't know. I mean, he's like the 640 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: Christmas present that you keep forgetting about every year and 641 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: it gets left in the back of the behind the 642 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: tree and everybody forgets about it, and then you're like, well, 643 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: let's just save it for next year. We'll open it 644 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: up next year. Well, then next year rolls around and 645 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: gets forgot forgotten about it behind the tree again and uh. 646 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: And the reason why it's because he's been hurt. And 647 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: that's not good. I mean, here's the reality. If you've 648 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: been playing the National Football League, the first and most 649 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: important thing is availability. It's not about your ability, it's 650 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: about availability again and and so hopefully he can get 651 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: on the field this year and stay healthy. But look, 652 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: ye gotta go find your guy. And when I say 653 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: find your guy, you need to find somebody that can 654 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: threaten the field, that has speed, that has quickness, that 655 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: is going to provide a comfort level for a young quarterback. 656 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: I love John Smith of the Tennessee Titans, and I've 657 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: made that known many times before. And I think he 658 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: will be available. The Tennessee Titans are going to have 659 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: some cap issues and so he's expected to be on 660 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: the market now. Last year he had a somewhat of 661 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: an injury played year, had some knee issues and was 662 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: active for about fourteen games. But I think a lot 663 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: of the games that he was active, he just wasn't 664 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: very effective because of the injuries. But when he is 665 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: on his game, John new Smith, I think is he's 666 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: not at that top tier. But I think he's a 667 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: he's a notch below and looking if you can get 668 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: a notch below that top tier of the guy who's 669 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: in Kansas City and the guy that's in San Francisco, 670 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: you don't take that any day of the week. And 671 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: what I like about John and Smith he is competitive 672 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: as the day is long. He is a good willing blocker. 673 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: He's got quickness and he's got the ability to do 674 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: things after the catch, and that's what you want with 675 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: the tight end. So I think you gotta take a 676 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: strong look at him. Here here's the other thing. Delaney Walker, 677 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: who was a long time Tennessee Titan, is a guy 678 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: that uh that wants to get back into the game. 679 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: He sat last year out and there would be little 680 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: to no risk with a guy like the lady Walker. 681 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: So do you take a chance on him. When I 682 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: say a chance, you're not taking a financial chance because 683 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: I think it would be a minimum guy. But do 684 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: you take take a little flyer on him and see 685 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: if he's got anything left them tank Because the last 686 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: time we saw Delaney Walker before he got hurt j P, 687 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: he was pretty good. Yeah, he's he's towards this organization 688 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: before he is thirty six years old bugs, but veteran minimum. 689 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Why not? Right? Let me look, look, I mean there's 690 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: there's Look at Gronk man. I mean, Gronk goes and 691 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: retires and comes back and he ends up doing some 692 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: great things this past year for Tampa Bay. Uh. The 693 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: tight end that played UH for the Dallas Cowboys. You 694 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: know what was his name? J C. Witten? Witten? I 695 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: mean he played forever for the Dallas Cowboys, and he 696 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: slows molasses. He goes and he and he goes the 697 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: Monday night booth and he and he becomes a not 698 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: very good in the broadcast booth. He goes back into 699 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: football and he's still playing good ball. I mean, so look, 700 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean thirty six. I mean, if anybody can do it, 701 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: it's a Delanney Walker. Because, like I said, the last 702 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: time that I saw Delaney Walker play football, he was 703 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: still pretty good and still a Pro Bowl type level player. 704 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: But he had an injury. So where is he at 705 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: with that injury? I'd like to find out Hunter Henry 706 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: could come free as well. Chargers tight end who you know, 707 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: let's the last season, fourteen games, UH sixty catches six 708 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: in her thirteen yards. He's been over six hundred yards 709 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: the last two years, four touchdowns last season. He's a 710 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: guy that's put up numbers. Yeah. Look, I mean he's 711 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: a he's a guy that could that could do some 712 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: good things. I mean for me, though, um, John and Smith, 713 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: I think he's got more juice, you know what I mean. 714 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean that juice to where you're talking about when 715 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator sits there and goes, what are we 716 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: gonna do on the tight end? How do we treat him? 717 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: Do we treat him as a receiver? Do we treat 718 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: him as a tight end? Do we treat him as 719 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: a blocker? I mean, those are the guys you want it. 720 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: Does Hunter Henry do that for you? Do they? Does 721 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: he strike fear? How many touchdowns that Hunter Henry have 722 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: last year? JP without sixty some oddcast four? Okay, John 723 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: and Smith had eight and he only had like forty 724 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: catches last year in limited action with injury. For me, 725 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking John and Smith ahead of a Hunter Henry 726 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: even though he was got some injury issue. If he's 727 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: if he's all clear on all that, I'm taking jonas 728 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: set all right. There you have it. We're pretty clear 729 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: on what logs wants to do it tight end and 730 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: it's John ou Smith. We'll see if he's free first 731 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: and if the Jaguars make a move to go try 732 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: to get him in the first week or so of 733 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: free agency. Let's come back in a moment. Trevor Lawrence's 734 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: rehab is underway. We'll get to Chris Simms quarterback rankings 735 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: that have turned on Twitter this week. That's uh become 736 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: a little bit hostile at times because a certain Trevor 737 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: Lawrence is not number one on his list will go 738 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: around in the league as well. And it's Jaguars Happy 739 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Hour and the Jaguars Digital Network. Hi, this is Dr 740 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: Patrick Basil of Basil Plastic Surgery and Wellness. I'm a 741 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: proud veteran at the U. S. Navy, and during my 742 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: active duty time, I had the amazing privilege to serve 743 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: our country and those who were wounded in common that 744 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: helping my patients return to a normal life, I was 745 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: able to provide an unparalleled level of care, which I've 746 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: carried over to my own private practice. Today as the 747 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: official plastic surgeon of the Jaguars, I would like to 748 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: wish the Jack's best of luck and invite you to 749 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: visit us at Patrick Basel, MD dot com. Superior Fence 750 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: and Rail knows about commercial fence services from automatic gates 751 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: to security fence and railing. Superior Fence and Rail's professional 752 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: team delivers with great communication, trained installers and quality promins. 753 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: Trust your next commercial project with a top rated fence 754 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: company in Jacksonville. Get off the fence and call Superior 755 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: Fens and Rail for your commercial project today Superior Fence 756 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: dot com. The best thing about working at Fare and 757 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: Farah is all of the employees. We all work together. 758 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: It's extremely enjoyable to come to work every day. There's 759 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: a common cause or goal and no matter what your 760 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: job is, we're all there for the client. We are 761 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: debtic added to our clients. We do everything it takes 762 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: to maximize the value of their claims. Fair and fair 763 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: is really the Farah family when they choose us, to 764 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: choose a family to fight for them and to protect them, 765 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: to make sure that they're in a good place and 766 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: that they have somebody on their side. Pharah and Farah, 767 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: here for you, Here for good Jacksonville. The wait for 768 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: the holidays is over, America. It's time to make some 769 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: joy and we're here to help with the Ford Built 770 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: for the Holiday sales event. We're offering the best deals 771 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: of the season across the Ford lineup, so you can 772 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: road trip with the whole family comfortably in a Ford expedition, 773 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: bring home a tree that's bigger than you ever have 774 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: with a built Ford tough at one fifty, and find 775 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: new ways to make the holidays bright this year when 776 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: you visit your local Ford dealer, the joy is up 777 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: to you, America, So let's get to it. Ford Built 778 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 1: for the Holidays. Committed to the team, committed to the mission. 779 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: At Navy Mutual, we're committed to providing high quality life 780 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: insurance to members of the military and their families, so 781 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: our policies have no fine print and no military service restrictions. 782 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: We don't work on commission. We're nonprofit, so we passed 783 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: the savings along to our members because at Navy Mutual, 784 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: our highest commitment is to you. Visit Navy Mutual dot org. 785 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: Navy Mutual Ensuring those who serve. Castler Creative, proud partner 786 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars, has the large format printing services 787 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: running in high gear, creating large banners for marketing events, 788 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: full vehicle ramps, learn how Kessler changes the game with 789 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: friends and direct mail innovation from eye catching restaurant menus 790 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: to real estate yard signs and event displays. Kestler does 791 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: it all. Castler Creative, Jacksonville, Florida, results driven Marketing and 792 00:43:44,360 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: the proud partner that Jacksonville jaguash Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hour, 793 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman, Glad you're a long let 794 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: us say, and we're mentioning the podcasts earlier blogs I 795 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: left off and I will hear about it, so I've 796 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: made a correction here. The ozone podcast is also each 797 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: week hosted by our good friend John Osan the Ozone Podcast. 798 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: He's the senior writer for Jaguars dot Com. You might 799 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: have heard of him, so, uh, I haven't met him. 800 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: You will at some point soon and his done sound familiar. Well, well, 801 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: we'll get you in touch early next week. The next 802 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: ozone podcast will come out with Peter Schreeger from NFL Network. 803 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: He has a great visit Ozone does each week with 804 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: a great national guest or coach or player or whoever 805 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: is the topic of the week, So that will come 806 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: out early next week. My apologies to Ozone I'm sure 807 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: since he's like, I love Ozone. I'm just kidding. I'm 808 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: just I'm just kidding. Is uh I can tell I 809 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: will say this, Um, John is Johnny go Zone whatever 810 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: you wanna call, one of the most talented writers that 811 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: there is in a national football league. I think that 812 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: Jackson was very fortunate to have him. And I'm being 813 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: serious about this because I'll give you an example. The 814 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Cults, and since I've been doing the broadcasting of 815 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: the football games, which you know, if you go back 816 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: to doing uh television, which you go all the way 817 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: back to gosh, my first year going that was UH 818 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: nine with Fox and then eventually with radio, starting with 819 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and oh three, whenever I did an Indianapolis 820 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: Cults game, the Cults PR department, I mean it was terrible, 821 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: terrible When I say that they you know, because it 822 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: was the Peyton Manning era. So you would open up 823 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: the public relations guide and the weekly release and it 824 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: was just all the statistical information and You're like, look, dude, 825 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't have time. This is not a statistician broadcast. 826 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't have time to go through fifty pages of 827 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: how great Payton Manning is just in the numbers. Just 828 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: give me the cliff Notes version, give me a summary, 829 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: give me bullet points, give me information. And the Colts 830 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: never gave that to you. So you know what I did. 831 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 1: At the time Johnny had already left Jacksonville and then 832 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: he was actually writing for Colts dot com. I would 833 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: get all of my little tidbits and nuggets of information 834 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: that would would help our broadcast from John Oshan's writing 835 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: on Colts dot com and then wherever he was at 836 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 1: because there was a period of time that he wasn't 837 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: but he was still covering the team. That's how good 838 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: of a writer John oshres. He never missed anything when 839 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: it came into the Colts and I relied on him 840 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: to get my cults information. So just then, that's the 841 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: god's honest truth. I'm not trying to say that to 842 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: pump up Johnny. O'sher trust me. Well, I'll say this 843 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: that you mentioned it was the Peyton Manning era, but 844 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: it was the reason why there was no information coming 845 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: out officially through the Colts PR department because it was 846 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: the Bill Polian era as well. And that was no, no, no, no, 847 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: no no. Look look, look, you had Marvin Harrison, Reggie, 848 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: Wayne Peyton, Manning, the two pass rushers Freeney and mathis 849 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: when you had hall of fame type guys, okay, And 850 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: so when you have hall of fame type guys, you 851 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: don't have to sit there and list every single catch 852 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: that they've ever had in their career. Give them five 853 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: key things to talk about in a broadcast about each guy. 854 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: They may not use all five, but the real key 855 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: to a public relations department and is focusing in the 856 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: narrative of on certain guys. Give them the important, give 857 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: them the nuggets, give them the nugget that they're gonna 858 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: use and make it easy for them in a broadcast. 859 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: And the CULTPRD staff, for whatever reason during that time 860 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: period they didn't get it. And uh and Dan Edward's 861 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: son is now working for the cold PR department. So 862 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: I think things are gonna change. I think I think 863 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: so too. Let's move along here to the quarterback prospect list. 864 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: You know, this is the time of year. Trevor Lawrence 865 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: has been for three years haralded as the one at 866 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: some point the number one overall pick and the best 867 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: quarterback in college football and all these things. But as 868 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: expected hashtag as expected you know, it's about this time 869 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: before the draft, two months out people start putting these 870 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 1: lists out, looking at more tape. Oh we found this guy. 871 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: And now these lists start to change a little bit. 872 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: Chris Sims, when we're NFL Quarterback now with the Pro 873 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: Football Talk, put his newest quarterback ranking list out and 874 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was not number one. Zack Wilson has moved 875 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: to the top of his quarterback list, and he went 876 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 1: through along reasoning why earlier this week on Pro Football Talk. 877 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: But that's kind of this is that timeframe when people 878 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: look at maybe some reasons why you shouldn't pick a 879 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: guy over another and list change and you find tell me, 880 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: tell me the big reason why Chris Simms thought that 881 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: he should be over trebled on Basically it was complete package, 882 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: can make the big time throws. He has the mindset of, um, 883 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, he actually dropped names like Aaron Rodgers and 884 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. He has that type of arm ability. Said so, 885 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: so Chris Sims is now Sigmund Freud. I don't know, 886 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: he's digging into the mind quarterback. It's funny though, Like 887 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: the reaction to these is what cracks me up. Is 888 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: like people freak out out over this. It's not I'll say, 889 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: is that the Jets are gonna get a really good 890 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe uh it kind of just makes me 891 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: laugh though, because the former senior editor of Jaguars dot Com, 892 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: Vic Keshman, used to kind of laugh and because he 893 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: would talk to scouts or he would talk to the 894 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: talent evaluators and and they would give Vic, you know, 895 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: his their opinion on a certain guy. And they tell 896 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: Vic and and they look at him, go the look 897 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: in his eye just tell him by the look in 898 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: his eye that this guy can play. You know, It's 899 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: like put you some kind of uh you know, secret 900 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: uh abilities to be able to look into a guy's 901 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: soul and the crystal ball of his future and to 902 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: see what he's gonna be. H. But look look at 903 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: christens Is in title to his opinion, and there's a 904 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of really good quarterbacks. But when you look at 905 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: the traits that he talked about that put the young 906 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: man ahead of Trevor Lawrence. The reality is that Trevor 907 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: Lawrence does all those things. But then Trevor Lawrence has 908 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,479 Speaker 1: also done it on the national stage, and he's also 909 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: done it everywhere and at every level he's ever been. 910 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he has better physical attributes 911 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: to play the position at the National Football League level. 912 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,919 Speaker 1: He's got better sight lines because he's got more height, 913 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: he's got the size, he's got the athleticism, he's got 914 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: everything that you want. So I'm not trying to completely, 915 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, to say that Chris Simms is full of it. 916 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: But uh, I think Chris Sims needs to maybe go 917 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: back and reanalyze the tape a little bit, because I've 918 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 1: watched the tape and there's no way. Pete Friscoe always says, 919 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: everyone's entitled to their own wrong opinion. Let's go around 920 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: the National Football League and start off with the schedule release, 921 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: and Ben Fisher Sports Business Journal said the NFL says 922 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: that it's currently targeting the second week of May for 923 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: the schedule release. Historically, Loggs the release has come before 924 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: the draft most years, and then last year, of course, 925 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: it was pushed back into early May, and it could 926 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: be even deeper. And the reasoning it's because the talk 927 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 1: of the seventeen game schedule that could be coming after 928 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: NFL owners meetings at the end of March and the 929 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: television deals. All that combined could push that announcement back, 930 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: and that's a that's a big offseason mile post to 931 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: really get people fired up for the season ahead. Well, 932 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: that would be a lot to do in one off 933 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: season to be able to negotiate new TV deals, to 934 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: expand the season to seventeen games, and also do it, 935 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: by the way, we still have a global pandemic going on. 936 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be a lot to be able 937 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: to accomplish. But I think the league needs to focus 938 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: in on for this year. This is just my opinion. 939 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: They need to focus in on sixteen games for this year, 940 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: make that the focus, and worry about getting things more 941 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: back to normal with the COVID situation. Before you say, okay, 942 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,720 Speaker 1: let's just go to seventeen games and look, I understand 943 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of money at stay okay and 944 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: totally get it, and that's not gonna go away in 945 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 1: the future. Though you still have the ability to to 946 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: get to seventeen games. I think you've got to find 947 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: a way to get more normalcy for your season this 948 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 1: year with sixteen games to where you're starting to find 949 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: a way to bring fans back and etcetera, etcetera. Before 950 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: you start saying Holy let's go ahead and add seventeen games, 951 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, But the amount of money that they're talking about, 952 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: I think with the networks obviously entails. And the reason 953 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: for some of the sizeable increases in the money is 954 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: to I think in a large part of them talking 955 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: about seventeen games. And so at some point you've got 956 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: to go ahead and stop talking about and then do it, 957 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: and then then commit yourself to that, and then you 958 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: make a lot more money. I get it. But I 959 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: think this year, I think you have to commit to 960 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: getting back to more normalcy with sixteen games and still 961 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: dealing with a global pandemic before you're worrying about adding 962 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: the seventeenth game. That's just my opinion. Well, we we 963 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: all know this next player has never met a microphone 964 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't like, and he's using one lately. Jalen Ramsey, 965 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: rams cornerback, is in the media again this week. He 966 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: says Deshaun Watson is quote extremely serious about not playing 967 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: for the Texans again. That was on the Huddle and 968 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: Flow podcast this week. Of course, Ramsey and Watson had 969 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 1: the same agent. There's a notorious picture. Not notorious there's 970 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: a photo of all three of them together that Jags fans, 971 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: some of them I think is uh kind of rubbed 972 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: them the wrong way when Jalen was um still with 973 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Of course he was photographed with the Texans quarterback. 974 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: I think that was during the season. Come to think 975 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: of it, it it might have been during the back injuryissue. 976 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: All of that combined, So m are correct on all 977 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: of that. So Watson it is extremely serious apparently about 978 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: not playing for the Texans again. How about that? Are 979 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: you surprised? What what is is? Is Jalen Ramsey breaking news? There? No? 980 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: You know? So look, I mean I think everybody knew 981 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson was very serious. And uh, you're gonna 982 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: find out how serious he is when he starts to 983 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: put his paychecks at risk by not playing for the 984 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. And will it get to that point, I 985 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know. But if you want to find out how 986 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: serious that Deshaun Watson is, and if the Texans truly 987 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: want to find out how serious Deshaun Watson is, see 988 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: if he will forego millions of dollars to not play 989 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: for you. That's the way you're gonna find out how 990 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 1: serious he is. And uh, and I just I know this. 991 00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: I would have a hard time, you know, passing up fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, 992 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars or whatever he would consider losing this 993 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: year if he doesn't play, and it might even be 994 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: more than that. I don't know. You'll never get it 995 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: back once you don't get it to begin with that. Hey, Uh, 996 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: And I ask you Unique and Gockway if if you 997 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: if you get that money back. And Gockway turned down 998 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: a pretty sizeable deal by the Jaguars a couple of 999 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: years ago, and uh, and he's not going to see 1000 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: that again, you know. And right now, I think that 1001 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: if he could, if he could go back in time 1002 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: and revise his personal history, I think he might take 1003 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: that deal. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but from 1004 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: a financial standpoint, he would have done much better by 1005 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: taking the Jaguars deal at that time. An update on 1006 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,800 Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger situation in Pittsburgh. Adam Schefter reporting today 1007 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 1: that Big Ben agreed to take a five million dollar 1008 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: pay cut in the final year of his contract this 1009 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: season and spreads his cash pay out into the two 1010 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: season lord the capit by fifteen million, and then well, 1011 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: the capit was going to be forty one million in 1012 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: chain lugs, so they needed a little space to get 1013 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: some things done, and he will be the quarterback of 1014 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 1: the Steelers this year. So in other words, he took 1015 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: a pay cut and then they tacked how many years 1016 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: onto the contract? The lower's great question. Great question, because 1017 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's I mean, that's the only way 1018 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: to see that. That was the tricky part about Ben 1019 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger that made at such a difficult situation for both 1020 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: Ben and the Pittsburgh Steelers, because you couldn't just say, oh, 1021 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna get last Ben to take a pay cut, 1022 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: because even if he just took a pay cut, he's 1023 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: the amount of money that that was still going to 1024 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,439 Speaker 1: be applied to the cap. In other words, you needed 1025 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: to try to find a way to add years to 1026 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: the current contract that he had to be able to 1027 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: lessen the hit for this year. And essentially, what you're doing, 1028 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: unless Ben plays in the future for extremely cheap you're 1029 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: still continuing to kick the can down the road, so 1030 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: to speak, on dealing with the salary cat f issue 1031 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: of Ben roethl Sburger. But here here's the one thing. 1032 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's back, because Ben Roethlisberger is part 1033 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: of He is the Pittsburgh Steelers in my mind, and 1034 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: that's an organization I think is gonna it's gonna undergo 1035 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of change this offseason. It's gonna look 1036 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: a little different next year. But look, I mean when 1037 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: you watch football sometimes he just you know, certain guys 1038 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: are what football is about. I mean, Ben is the 1039 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. For many years, Tom Brady was the New 1040 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: England Patriots, and this year it was very different than 1041 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't Drew Brees is the New Orleans Saints. Will 1042 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: he be back? I don't know, you know, so, I 1043 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: mean there's certain things that are very comforting and football 1044 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: to have your favorite player or one of your more 1045 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: likable players to stay with their team. So I'm glad 1046 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: that that happened. All Right, We've made it to the 1047 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: end of another edition of Jaguars Happy Hour. Lugs, have 1048 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend. We'll catch up again with you next week. 1049 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Loguman out of here podcast stuff. Yeah, subscribe and 1050 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: give a five stars in a comment while you're at it, Logs, 1051 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: and we'll entertain you daily on the Jaguars Official Podcast 1052 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: Network again. Look for the Rees Davis interview coming up 1053 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: Monday on Jaguars dot Com. Thanks to our entire crew, 1054 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver, I'm J P. Shadrick. Thank you 1055 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: for listening and thanks for watching on Jaguars dot com. 1056 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network