WEBVTT - iMessage Almost Comes to Android & Google Maps Navigation Hack

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<v Speaker 1>A new app brings I message to Android, but now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a game of cat and mouse with Apple. The

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<v Speaker 1>way a push notification can be used to spy on you.

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<v Speaker 1>How to bring Ai Santa to your backyard, plus your

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<v Speaker 1>tech questions answered. What's going on. I'm Rich Demiro and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Rich on Tech broadcasting live from Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>coast to coast. This is the show where I talk

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<v Speaker 1>got a great show this week. We've got guests in voting.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Mitchagovski, the co founder of Beeper. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Beeper Mini. This is the app that brought

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<v Speaker 1>my message to Android for a hot minute this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is currently shut down by Apple apparently, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe back up and running by the time you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not listening live Mitch Lee, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>founders of ARC. This is a startup building all electric

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<v Speaker 1>performance speed boats. I had the chance to go out

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<v Speaker 1>on one of their basically Tesla's of the Sea and

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<v Speaker 1>it is wild. So we'll talk to Mitch about electrifying

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<v Speaker 1>the boating industry. And we've got Steven Akino, a freelance

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<v Speaker 1>tech journalist covering accessibility and assistive technologies. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Microsoft's Seeing Ai app, which is now on Android,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple's personal voice feature, and PlayStation's new accessible controller.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope you're having a great week.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week after the show, I went to dinner and

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<v Speaker 1>a little wild story. So we're at dinner and basically

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a picture outside as I typically do my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>my kid, me taking a selfie outside this restaurant and

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<v Speaker 1>someone comes up and they say, hey, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to take your picture for you? As I always

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<v Speaker 1>say sure, go ahead, and so they take my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>They stand out in the street and they say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it be wild if I just are you worried

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<v Speaker 1>that I might just take your phone right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh what? And I kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>thought about this and I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just handed over my unlocked phone to some

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<v Speaker 1>stranger and.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept it cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I played it cool and was like, no, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you could take it, and you know, just clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>guy didn't look like he was going to take my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he was just playing with me. But

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<v Speaker 1>it really resonated with me, and it kind of struck

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<v Speaker 1>a nerve because I realized that we give our phones

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<v Speaker 1>to people all the time to take pictures, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time it's kind of like unprompted, Like people

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<v Speaker 1>will come up to us and say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can I take your picture, and we just take our

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<v Speaker 1>unlocked phone and kind of hand it to them. This

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<v Speaker 1>happens at you know, theme parks in the street in

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<v Speaker 1>foreign countries, and it just made me realize that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of scary, Like what could someone do when

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<v Speaker 1>they have your phone. Well, they can look at your

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<v Speaker 1>personal information, your contacts, your emails, your messages, your photos.

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<v Speaker 1>They might try to access your banking apps. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these apps do require another level of authorization,

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<v Speaker 1>like a pin code or your face ID, so that

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<v Speaker 1>does make a little bit more sense, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>them do not so if you can inside your financial

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<v Speaker 1>apps PayPal, Venmo, make sure that you have the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>authentication on inside those apps.

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<v Speaker 2>Social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine someone just takes my phone and they post start

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<v Speaker 1>posting stuff on social media on my behalf.

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<v Speaker 2>That would not be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot of followers on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not want them to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They could immediately try to change your passwords and lock

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<v Speaker 1>you out of your phone. Wall Street Journal did a

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<v Speaker 1>story about how if a thief basically has your passcode,

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<v Speaker 1>they are able to reset your entire iCloud account and

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<v Speaker 1>lock you out. That's pretty scary, but that does require

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<v Speaker 1>your pass code. But think about it. We put our

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<v Speaker 1>pass code in all the time. Maybe you just typed

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<v Speaker 1>it in. They say, can I see your phone? And

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got your passcode and your phone, they might

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<v Speaker 1>try to install malware spyware.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing they might do is go into your

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<v Speaker 1>settings and turn off the auto lock. Set it to

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<v Speaker 1>never so that your phone doesn't lock. Because think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the good news is most of our phones are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lock after a couple of minutes, right, so at the

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<v Speaker 1>worst comes to worse If they don't keep that screen

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone is gonna lock. But I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>all this because I'm not saying don't trust anyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that our phone is our

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<v Speaker 1>life and just to hand it over to some stranger

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of weird that we do that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my bigger point is if you can member to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, If you're going to hand your phone to

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<v Speaker 1>a stranger to take your picture, make sure your phone

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<v Speaker 1>is locked, right so there is a way to access

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<v Speaker 1>the camera on most iPhones and Androids with the screen locked,

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<v Speaker 1>and on iPhone it's a little tricky because as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you look at your phone, it's gonna unlock. So

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to do is you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure your phone is locked, angle it away from you,

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<v Speaker 1>light up the screen, and then swipe over to access

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<v Speaker 1>the camera or tap the camera short cut, all while

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<v Speaker 1>aiming the screen away from you so that face ID

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<v Speaker 1>does not identify you. On Android, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>easier because you can double click the power button on

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<v Speaker 1>the right side on most Android phones and that will

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<v Speaker 1>bring you to the camera without unlocking the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a little food for thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I posted it to my ex at Rich on Tech

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people were kind of chiming in

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on TV, and again, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. I don't think people are bad. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most people are actually good, but you can never be

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<v Speaker 1>too safe, especially when someone offers to do this for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What else this week, Oh, we got to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this whole I Message on Android thing. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a little bit because I've got

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with the guy who created the app Beeper Mini,

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<v Speaker 1>which brings I Message to Android. We tape the interview

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, can we please do this interview live?

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<v Speaker 1>And he just wasn't available to do it live, so

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<v Speaker 1>we taped it and I said, I hope things don't

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<v Speaker 1>change before the show airs, And of course things have

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<v Speaker 1>changed because the app was available and next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple somehow shut it down, so it's not available as

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<v Speaker 1>I speak right now, but they are working on it

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<v Speaker 1>and it may be back available. But I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>interview was still interesting because you can hear what his

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint is on this entire situation, like why he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that Android users should get access to blue bubbles on

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone. Right before I came in to do the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a phone call from a family member that

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<v Speaker 1>was attempting to watch a sports game. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have cable, it is really tough to watch sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is part of a strategy by the cable

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<v Speaker 1>companies and the sports and all this good stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>get you to spend money.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it. Sports are very expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not cheap to have that broadcast live from various

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<v Speaker 1>places across the US every weekend, day in, day out,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of money riding on sports and

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<v Speaker 1>that has been kind of the one major holdout when

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<v Speaker 1>people cut the cord. Right So for me, I cut

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<v Speaker 1>the cord a long time ago. I can get almost

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<v Speaker 1>anything I want to watch over the air on antenna

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<v Speaker 1>or by streaming, or by some of these free apps

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<v Speaker 1>just cobbling things together. But when it comes to sports,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really tough because typically games are on one place,

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<v Speaker 1>one channel, and you have to subscribe to get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Amazon has been doing something really cool and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of neat where they do with Thursday night Football game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is available to all Prime members across any

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<v Speaker 1>device that you can watch Prime on, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone or a Roku or an Apple TV. Apple

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<v Speaker 1>kind of did the same thing with their MLS. They

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<v Speaker 1>bought the Major League Soccer and they made it available

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<v Speaker 1>across any device using the Apple TV app. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that was interesting because it was kind of the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that there were no blackouts. You could watch the

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<v Speaker 1>game no matter where you were on the device you wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I'm explaining to this family member about YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>TV and they say, I can't believe YouTube TV is

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three dollars a month. I said, yeah, let's basically

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<v Speaker 1>cable except through the internet. And they said, wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean. I said, well, you get this

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<v Speaker 1>through the internet. And they said, well, how do I

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<v Speaker 1>sign up? I said, okay, you go to YouTube TV.

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<v Speaker 2>On the internet. Oh, on the internet, not on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, you can go on your phone, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably easier from a desktop. Oh, okay, you sign

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<v Speaker 1>it with your Google account and now you sign up

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<v Speaker 1>and you pay the money and they will charge you

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<v Speaker 1>and now you have access to these channels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well how do I get it on the TV?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, you download the YouTube TV app and

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<v Speaker 1>then you sign in on the app on your screen. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what how do I do that it's very complicated. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm explaining all of this to my family member,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized just how wildly complicated this stuff sounds to

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<v Speaker 1>someone that doesn't really understand. And this was the best

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<v Speaker 1>two questions I got from the family member. They said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, how am I going to get TV delivered

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<v Speaker 1>to my TV without a cable? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes through the internet. It doesn't come through a

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<v Speaker 1>cable anymore. But you also, he said, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>have to have internet though, right, I said, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to continue paying for the Internet to get this

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<v Speaker 1>TV delivered over the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this was the kicker on the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, well, hold on, I already subscribed to YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>TV once and I went to my YouTube and I

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<v Speaker 1>still had ads, so I don't get it. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube TV does not get rid of ads on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>which does not make any sense whatsoever. I remember a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, I was sitting in the audience

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<v Speaker 1>at YouTube headquarters here in Los Angeles where they do

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<v Speaker 1>all the YouTube TV stuff, and they were announcing YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>TV and back then, by the way, it was thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars, and they took us in a room and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a Q and A. And after I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to all of this information about YouTube TV, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, stupid question. I said, is YouTube ad free

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<v Speaker 1>included in YouTube TV? And they said, oh no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>still a separate charge. So if you want YouTube TV

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<v Speaker 1>and YouTube without ads, YouTube without ads is something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ten fifteen bucks a month, and then YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>TV is another seventy three dollars a month. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>almost one hundred dollars a month for just one service.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that may be cheaper than what you're paying for

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<v Speaker 1>cable and some aspects. But my point is this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is complicated, and it made me realize to say, the

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<v Speaker 1>emails I get, the questions I get. I take for

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<v Speaker 1>granted that I am in the thick of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>every day and it makes so much sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand your woes. So give me a call

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a question about technology. It's triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. There is no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a stupid tech question. My name is rich Demiro.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking Technology at triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Four to two four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting a lot of messages recently about Amazon getting hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a lot of people are posting on social

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<v Speaker 1>media that if you look inside your Amazon account, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a bunch of Amazon lockers that have been added

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<v Speaker 1>to your address book, and so people are saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>got hacked, your account was accessed by a hacker. They

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<v Speaker 1>added these lockers to your account so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>deliver stuff from your account to these lockers and pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up without you ever knowing. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that's not really true. So I did look in my

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<v Speaker 1>account and sure enough, there were a couple of Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>lockers that were added, and I kind of thought that Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>Put these in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because they've been really pushing me to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff instead of delivering it to me. And I said, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how the situation works. Like you were started

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<v Speaker 1>as a company to deliver stuff to my house. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go out and pick up stuff. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you're delivering.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I place an order right now, Amazon sends

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<v Speaker 1>me a notification that says Hey, we're delivering this order

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but would you like to pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>at a locker? And I say no, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pick it up, and I just ignore the text.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are accounts that do have these lockers in them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's making the rounds on social media. And as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I get a whole bunch of messages about this,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do some research. And my research brought

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<v Speaker 1>me to Snopes and so apparently this is not Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>did not get hacked, but it did happen, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to Amazon, there is let's see a small number of

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<v Speaker 1>customer accounts that got lockers added in error. We are

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<v Speaker 1>working to fix the issue. That's what they told Snopes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't really believe that. I think that Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>did add lockers to a lot of people's accounts. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can go into your Amazon account and check. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no harm that these lockers are in there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the default shipping, it's not your stuff is not

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<v Speaker 1>being sent to these lockers automatically. Hackers are not ordering

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to these lockers. So your account remains secure as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you have a strong password, two factor authentication.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn it on for your Amazon account. Don't click the

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<v Speaker 1>links in your email that say.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we have an Amazon order for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We need you to confirm everything from your Social Security

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<v Speaker 1>number to your data birth.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it. It is not ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, let's go to uh, let's go. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a call. Let's go to Ian in Durango, Colorado. Ian

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Rich, I just wanted to put my two cents

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<v Speaker 3>on the whole internet cable thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if if you want to, you know, make things happen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're just a casual you know, consumer of media

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever, if you want to do it on a budget,

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<v Speaker 3>my recommend dation is, you know, just pay for your internet,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, don't buy any fancy subscriptions unless you know

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<v Speaker 3>you got a friend or something that's let you.

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<v Speaker 2>Borrow theirs or which to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, well yeah, exactly if you do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I recommend Internet archive dot org. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 3>dot org. I gotta I have to Google again. But

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<v Speaker 3>Internet archives is a fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>Website to use.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's just some movie you want to watch, some

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<v Speaker 3>show you want to watch, some music you want to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to. There's just a lot of stuff on there.

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<v Speaker 3>That they just archive and they have it off on free,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, commercial free. You know, for like during the

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween season, I could watch every Friday the thirteenth free

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<v Speaker 3>of charge. Really, it's all it's just a historical like

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<v Speaker 3>project and so they just archive film, movies, websites.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just a fantastic wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at it, it's said.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm familiar with Internet Archive because they do

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<v Speaker 1>the wayback machine. So if you want to see like

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<v Speaker 1>an old version of a website, you can pop in

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<v Speaker 1>the URL and it will show you like what Yahoo looked.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in nineteen ninety seven or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is saying they've got thirty nine million books,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven million films, fifteen million pieces of music, two point

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<v Speaker 1>six something of TV software, photos, audio. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize they have all this stuff on here.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a great way to, uh to find stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like something older and you're looking you're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>an older black and white film or something and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to pay the five bucks to get it

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<v Speaker 3>on a streaming service. You know, google it.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>They most likely have it, all right, and thank you, good, good,

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<v Speaker 1>good free resource and since it's news to me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing it's news to others. I know the website. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize they have all this stuff. The website is

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<v Speaker 1>archive dot org, Archive dot org. A lot of stuff there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Good good, Uh good call.

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<v Speaker 1>If you use Gmail, their AI spam detection is getting

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<v Speaker 1>a major upgrade.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you remember these emails.

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<v Speaker 1>We were getting them for a while, but they would

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<v Speaker 1>be emails that would just be like an image or

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of like, you know, you want a gift

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<v Speaker 1>card or something, and so it was really tough for

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<v Speaker 1>Gmail filters to find these things and figure them out.

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<v Speaker 1>They're called adversarial text manipulations. These are emails that are

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<v Speaker 1>full of special characters and emojis. Well, now Gmail has

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<v Speaker 1>a new AI system called retvec and they say it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty eight percent improvement in spam detection, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Google says this is their largest defense upgrade in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently it's open source, so they're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>it in other applications. Other email systems can use this.

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<v Speaker 1>But the upgrade makes it much harder for spammers to

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<v Speaker 1>trick Gmail, and the system is apparently very efficient, so

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<v Speaker 1>it can kind of look for things instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>scanning the email for like words like, uh, you know, promotion,

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<v Speaker 1>gift card, free, whatever. Now it's actually looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>email like a human would look at it and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is total garbage, and it will send it to spam.

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<v Speaker 2>So less of those things are gonna get through. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, I'm gonna tell you about this whole Beeper

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<v Speaker 1>Mini controversy, the app that tried to get I message

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<v Speaker 1>to Android. We're going to talk to the co founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Beeper coming up next. You are listening to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech eighty to eight rich one oh one. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>So we got an app this week called Beeper Mini.

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<v Speaker 1>This app brings blue bubbles to Android and it was

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<v Speaker 1>working really well for just about twenty four hours and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone said, oh, Apple's going to shut this down,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, without saying a word. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple somehow tweaked their system and took this down. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that were testing it, like myself,

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<v Speaker 1>some people actually installed it and started using it and

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<v Speaker 1>were very excited it all came down. So Beeper says

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<v Speaker 1>they are working to get this up and running again,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't know if they will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But I do have an interview that I

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<v Speaker 1>conducted with Eric Midchiakowski.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the co founder of Beeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think it's relevant because he explains why he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing this and why they want to bring I Message

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<v Speaker 1>to Android. So let's hear from Eric.

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<v Speaker 7>So I've been working in startups for a while. I

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<v Speaker 7>started a company called Pebble back in the day, we

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<v Speaker 7>made smart watches, and ever since then, I've kind of

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<v Speaker 7>looked down at my phone and seen that I have

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<v Speaker 7>this folder full of chat apps. You know, I have Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp.

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<v Speaker 7>I all kind of do the same thing, but I

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<v Speaker 7>have a different section of my contact list on each one,

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<v Speaker 7>so I have to keep them all installed. And a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of years ago, I said, I just want to

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<v Speaker 7>have one app that I can use to chat with

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<v Speaker 7>anyone on any chat never. I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 7>to remember you know who's on WhatsApp and who's on

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<v Speaker 7>I Message, and it's just a hassle. So I started

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<v Speaker 7>building an app called Beeper. Beeper lets you chat with

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<v Speaker 7>anyone on any chat, all from one single app on

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<v Speaker 7>your phone or your computer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I noticed that when I DMed you via Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an immediate response, which is quite rare. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that's because it routed through your Beeper.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I spend a lot of time chatting, and all

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<v Speaker 7>of my chat apps go to the same inbox, so

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<v Speaker 7>I just have one place to check.

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<v Speaker 2>And I noticed this personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I was testing Beeper and I linked up a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of my accounts Instagram, LinkedIn and several others, and for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time ever, I had someone text me and

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<v Speaker 1>I did even realize that it was coming through LinkedIn,

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<v Speaker 1>and I responded back and forth immediately, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>realized later on, I said, oh, wow, that came in

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<v Speaker 1>through LinkedIn. I never respond to LinkedIn messages typically because

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think to check them, and here it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It just kind of opened up that entire way of responding.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's what we started working on a couple of

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<v Speaker 7>years ago. But one of the problems that we ran

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<v Speaker 7>into is well, I mean, to be completely honest, I'll

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<v Speaker 7>just put it out there. I'm an Android user. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>a proud Android user, and I've been one for twelve

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<v Speaker 7>years now. I have never been able to chat with

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<v Speaker 7>people on iPhones in the same way that iPhone users

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<v Speaker 7>can chat. I know that when people add me to

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<v Speaker 7>group chats, my ANDROIDNSS causes the whole group chat to

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<v Speaker 7>turn into a green bubble, and that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>hate to say it is a bit of a turn off.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>iPhone users are used to blue bubbles, and they expect them,

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<v Speaker 7>and so when there's a green bubble in the midst

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<v Speaker 7>it's a little bit weird. We wanted to solve that.

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<v Speaker 7>Chat is about bringing people together, it's about you know,

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<v Speaker 7>connecting people, it's about you know, just just hanging out

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<v Speaker 7>and chatting, and we didn't want this thing to come

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<v Speaker 7>in the way of that. So we set out to

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<v Speaker 7>build the first app for Android that lets you send

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<v Speaker 7>and receive blue bubble messages to iPhones. It's literally as

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<v Speaker 7>easy as going to the play Store, searching for Deeper

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<v Speaker 7>Mini and downloading the app on your Android phone. As

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<v Speaker 7>soon as you download it, you press a couple buttons

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<v Speaker 7>and you can start chatting with all of your iPhone

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<v Speaker 7>friends with a blue bubble. That means that you can

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<v Speaker 7>send full resolution images, videos, no more staticky you know,

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<v Speaker 7>small videos anymore. You can send emoji reactions, you can

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<v Speaker 7>participate in threads. All of your chats are now encrypted

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<v Speaker 7>so no one else can read them. And best of all,

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<v Speaker 7>your iPhone friends, when they type in your phone number,

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<v Speaker 7>you'll show up as a blue bubble, and you're probably

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<v Speaker 7>going to be more likely to be added to group chats.

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<v Speaker 7>I certainly have found that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, Eric, I'm imagining that you did not go

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<v Speaker 1>to WWDC Apple's developer conference and get the blessing of

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<v Speaker 1>Apple to do this. So how did you make this

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<v Speaker 1>possible for these Android users?

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<v Speaker 7>Actually a pretty interesting story. So up until deeper many

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<v Speaker 7>the only devices that could send blue bubble messages were

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<v Speaker 7>iPhones and Max. But over the summer, a sixteen year

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<v Speaker 7>old security reacher researcher actually uncovered the secret to how

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<v Speaker 7>I message works, and he wrote up a blog post

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<v Speaker 7>and created a kind of open source project that describes it.

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<v Speaker 7>We found it. Actually he contacted us, and well, I

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<v Speaker 7>mean we hired him as this sixteen year old kid

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 7>to work with us to help us crack the code

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 7>and figure out how to get this to work on

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 7>Android phones. So over the last few months we've been

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 7>working furiously on that, and just this week we announced

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 7>the app for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any sort of security issue here?

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Is there any sort of worrisome aspect of this other

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<v Speaker 1>than the fact that Apple may or may not shut

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<v Speaker 1>this down?

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's my other question. Can Apple shut

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<v Speaker 2>this down?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, here's how I look at it. Rich iPhone users today,

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<v Speaker 7>when they send a message to a friend on an

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 7>Android phone, they get a worse experience. It's not great.

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 7>You know, there's no like I said, there's no high

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 7>resolution pictures, Your messages are unencrypted. When your Android friend

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 7>downloads peper Mini, all of a sudden, you get a

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 7>better experience on your iPhone. And now I think it

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 7>would be kind of crazy to stop something like that.

0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 7>Bper Mini is an app that makes both Android users

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.199
<v Speaker 7>lives better as well as iPhone users. So I think

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 7>it'd be like, I think it'd be nuts to stop

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 7>something like that. It's just a net positive for the world,

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 7>and in terms of security, we have gone out of

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 7>our way to make this as secure and private as possible.

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 7>So the most important thing that we've done is we

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 7>do something called end to end encryption. That means that

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 7>when you send a message using deeper Mini, your message

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 7>is encrypted before it gets sent. That means that no

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 7>one can read your message. We can't read it. Apple

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 7>can't read it, your internet provider, your cell phone plan

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 7>can't read that message. No one can read the message

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 7>except for the recipient, except for the person that you're

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 7>sending it to. And that's really important. And up until now,

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 7>if you are an Android user sending a message to

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 7>an iPhone user, your message wouldn't be encrypted. Basically everyone

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 7>could read it. It's like a postcard. And so peeper

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 7>Mini actually brings a lot more security to the average

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 7>group chat or direct message.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't Apple make this app?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean they kind of are. So there was some

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 7>news two weeks ago where Apple said that they're going

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 7>to adopt an open standard for messaging called RCS, the

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 7>Rich Chat Service Protocol. They didn't say exactly when they're

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 7>going to do this, maybe by the end of twenty

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 7>twenty four, so fingers crossed, you know, it would be

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 7>a lot easier for us to do our jobs if

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 7>there was an open standard for messaging. So we're excited

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 7>by the possibility that Apple will do this, but we

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<v Speaker 7>just just said we couldn't wait. We had to do

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<v Speaker 7>it now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, There you have it, Beeper Mini. It was

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>working really well for about twenty four hours, and you

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>heard the question, I said, is Apple going to shut

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this down? And indeed they seem to have shut this down.

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So Beeper was tweeting over the overnight saying that they

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>are working on getting this back up and running. But

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>at this point it's kind of a game of cat

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and mouse because Apple sort of refuses to bring this

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.239
<v Speaker 1>to Android when they know they can and make a

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of lives better. I mean, the divide between you know,

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the green bubble and the blue bubble. It's a real

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:22.719
<v Speaker 1>thing and it's really annoying. And it's like the debate

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I posted on my Instagram at rich on Tech a

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>simple question, I said, iPhone versus Android, And you can't

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>believe that in the year twenty twenty three, people are

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>still debating the merits of these two platforms. Now, I

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>don't mind if you have a preference for the phone

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that you want. That's fine. There's a lot of options

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>on either side, but the fact that our messaging does

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>not work in the same way, and I feel like

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>a broken record because I've talked about this so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not right now.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Apple is bringing RCS to the iPhone next year, they

0:26:55.440 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>said late next year. That's still another possible six, seven, eight, nine,

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>ten months that people have to deal with this. And

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>even when RCS comes to the iPhone, which means Android

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>users will be able to exchange high quality photos and

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>videos with iPhone users, they will also be able to

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>get those you know, everything's just gonna work nice. So

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 1>that's basically it is. You'll be able to, you know,

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>exchange the videos and photos and not have them look

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like a postage stamp. That will be the big advantage.

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But the messages are still going to turn up green.

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>So Beeper was onto something. They were trying something. We'll see,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll continue to see if this works out. By the way,

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>they are charging two dollars a month, something else that

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Apple probably doesn't like. All right, if you have a

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>question for me, give me a call. Triple eight rich

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<v Speaker 1>one O one that's eighty eight seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also go to the website rich on Tech

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0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:56.679
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<v Speaker 2>More rich on Tech coming your way right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech, Rich to Miuro here

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>talking technology. Triple eight Rich one oh one is the

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>phone number for the show. That's eight eight eight seven

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. This is show

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>number forty nine. By the way, if you can believe it,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's almost been a full year of this show, which

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to say thank you for inviting me into

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>your home and your car and your speakers and your

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>phone and your earbuds and all the other places you

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>might listen. It has truly been an honor. And uh,

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not over. It's not like this is not like

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a goodbye, It's go. It kind of started to sound

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>like I thought Bobo was gonna play me out for

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a second there. No, I'm just saying thank you. I

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>just can't believe a year has gone by that fast

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>playing me out music. Let's go to uh John in

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>more Park.

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<v Speaker 9>John, You're on with rich Thank you Rich taking my call.

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 9>I use YouTube. I listened to it via Wi Fi

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 9>and whatever. Normally it works just fine. But every once

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 9>in a while they speed up the the velocity of

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 9>their speech. There's doubles of their time, and I have

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 9>hard time at normal speed even either that's too fast

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.239
<v Speaker 9>for me. I'm so slow. Is there any way I

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 9>can get around that? A trait of YouTube's feeding me up.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 9>So it happens a few seconds and then they go

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 9>back to normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, I think I know what's happening here.

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>There's well, there's a couple of things, and I actually

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>think I have a solution to your you know, if

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to listen to things slower too, there's actually

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a solution for that. But so, what's happening I think,

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>And I've seen this before on my Instagram. I have

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a really bad connection at one of the places why

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I look at Instagram and my stories and like the

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>same thing happens. Like I'm watching a reel and it's

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like super fast, and all of a sudden it slows down,

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and then it speeds up and it slows down. And

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>what's happening, I think, is an unstable internet connection. So

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it's buffering, and so it's getting all that stuff and

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it starts to play it and then it slows down

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and it starts to play it again. So I think

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening here. So what you can do is

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you can try to improve your Internet connection wherever you're

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>using this, So I know, if it's a TV or

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>something or a computer, you know, you may not be

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>able to move it to a different place, but that

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>might be it. But you might want to just kind

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of like clear the cookies and the cash on your

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>computer and on your web browser, I should say, And

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe that will help kind of clear things out and

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>make YouTube run smooth again. Now, if you want to

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>listen to things a little bit slower on YouTube, actually

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>is a way to do that. And I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if this is just a premium feature. I pay for

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like YouTube premium, so I'm seeing this on my account,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>but it may be available to everyone. But if you

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>are watching a video, there's a little gear icon and

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it says playback speed, and you can playback normal. Some

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>people like to listen to things faster, so they'll do

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>like a two X, but you can choose anything from

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>point two five to two X. So if you want

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to listen to something slower, that is a way to

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>do it. And that's just a built into YouTube. I

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's a premium feature though, I do

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>not have information on that right now, but I know

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:39.719
<v Speaker 1>it's on my account.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess I can go into like a you know

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>what I can do. Let me try this.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go into a incognito web browser and

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>see if that's still available, and sure enough it is,

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. So John, just tap that little

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>gear icon in the on the screen when you're watching

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a video and it will say playback speed, which is

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>anywhere from point two five to two.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. Thanks for calling in today. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Bob in the San Fernando Valley. Bob, you're on with.

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<v Speaker 5>Rich A Rich Happy forty nine and happy happy holidays.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Thank you you too. What can I help you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm a big fan of the show, both on

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 5>TV here as well as the radio and this. I

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 5>have been with Time Warner on the East Coast and

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 5>then Time Warner here on the West Coast, and then

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 5>ultimately Spectrum. All this time I've been able to record

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 5>anything I wanted from television using cable and a recorder

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 5>of EHS or DVD recorder. On the end of the

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 5>middle of May of this year, I get an email

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 5>from Spectrum saying your item will arrive on Wednesday. Well,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 5>I didn't order anything. When it arrived, there was a

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:58.959
<v Speaker 5>huge box. Ok, I didn't open it. I called them

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 5>and said, well, if you didn't order that, you can

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 5>take it back, just drop it off. So I was

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 5>in and out of the Midwest and back, and on

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 5>May thirtieth, I got an email saying your new account

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 5>will start tomorrow. On June first, and I lost service

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 5>and I ended up calling Spectrum at like one in

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 5>the morning and talked to a tech for three hours.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 5>He said open the box. And the box was a

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 5>new cable box. And the one thing about the cable

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 5>box is it did not have a coaxial cable out.

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 5>There was a table in TV out. That's the way

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 5>it's always been. Apparently I was considered a legacy account holder,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 5>and so they stopped digital adapters which had both cable in.

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>TV out there just doing digital out.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So basically I now cannot record or time shift

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 5>anything to the recorder or disc because I would do

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 5>that for historical reasons. Basically time shift my work patterns

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 5>would be second shift, third shift, so I could record

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 5>what I needed to look at when I got home.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And now you have no way of doing that, no

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>way of doing it.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 5>And that's a program they are introducing across the country.

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 5>So when I was in the Midwest, I went to

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 5>a Spectrum store and told them that do you have

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 5>a cable box, And the one that they presented me

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 5>was to act cable in TV out to cables.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 5>And then they said, because you are in California, we

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 5>can't do anything about it. Otherwise I'm sure they would

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 5>give me the box.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 8>Right.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 5>They started in California. They're introducing it across the country.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 5>So by the middle of twenty twenty four or the

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 5>end of twenty twenty four, nobody will be able to

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 5>record to DVD or VHS. If you have it, I

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 5>have a combination right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I mean I think it makes sense. I

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's thank you for the warning. By the way,

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I think this makes sense as we make this digital transition.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I do think that less people are probably using the

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>coax out from their cable box and they're just using

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:17.280
<v Speaker 1>HDMI into the back of their TV for the box.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I was just in a Spectrum

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>store and they showed me the cable box, and I'm

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to look in my pictures to see if I

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>have a picture of the back of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look. Oh man, I wish I did. I don't.

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a picture of the back of the

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>cable box.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious now because I'm I didn't notice that

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that it didn't have an out. So if you don't

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>have those outs, you can't bring this into like any

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of recorder, which makes sense, but I mean, look,

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>there there are may be some ways around this if

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you gosh. I mean with HDMI, there are a lot

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>more copyright protections on the signal and also on the cable,

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>so it probably will not give you away. I can't

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>even think there's a recorder that would take that signal

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in and let your record like, especially like a DVD

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>recorder or something like that. I would say, maybe the

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>only way to round this is to do something like

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a TiVo that might have a cable card, but I

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>don't even think they offer cable card anymore. At the

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, these these companies want you to

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>use their products and services, and as we get more

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>into this on demand world and this world of cloud DVRs,

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the companies control that, and that's what they want because

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>now you have to pay them. And also you don't

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>have as much flexibility. You can no longer keep that

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>recording for as long as you want. So, Bob, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the information, and now we know we've got the

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<v Speaker 1>fair warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna be able to do your own recording soon.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Coming up next, how police can spy on

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<v Speaker 1>your push notifications eighty to eight rich one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at

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<v Speaker 1>Triple eight rich one O one eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two four to one zero one. Man, the phones

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are on fire today, just so many calls.

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I do want to get to them. I will try.

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's always a dance because I want to answer the calls,

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to answer the emails. But I also want

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>to tell you all the news that I brought in,

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and I have tons of it. I mean, it's all

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>just like sitting here, like I have tons of little

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>topics I want to bring up like this. This week,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there was a bit of a revelation that governments can

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>basically spy on you through a push notification. So this

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>all came to light this week because US senator out

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of Oregon sent a letter. I don't know who he

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>sent it to, but he sent it to someone or

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was Apple and Google, but he said, hey,

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys should really reveal the fact that you hand

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>over information on individuals if governments ask for it, and

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the way they do this is really tricky and I

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>never really thought about this. Okay, So basically, let's say

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you sign up for an app anonymously on your iPhone

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>or Android, okay, a messaging app, and you send a

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>bunch of messages and now all of a sudden you

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.479
<v Speaker 1>get a notification. Well, that notification has to go through

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Google or Apple servers. They're kind of like the post office,

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and they know the address to your phone and what

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>do they also know? Well, they also know your account

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>information that you use to sign up for that Google

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.359
<v Speaker 1>account or that Apple account. And so government's got hip

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to this and said, hey, can you share that information

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>with us when we need it? And why would they

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>need it? Well, maybe there's some sort of dissident in

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>their government or an activist or anyone that they may

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>be interested in getting information on. And Apple and Google

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 1>apparently comply with these requests. Now for Apple and Google,

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it depends on how they receive the request. With Apple,

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe they need a subpoena and with Google they

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>need a court order. But the reality is if you

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>sign up anonymously, but then that notification comes to your

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 1>phone and you have an iPhone or an Android, there

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is information that these companies can then share about you

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 1>because they know your account information. It's just wild that

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>this happens. And so my point is, if you think

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you are being anonymous on your phone, you are probably not.

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>And I thought this was also interesting that Google and

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Apple had this secret deal with the government that was

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 1>not previously disclosed until this senator said hey, you should

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>probably disclose this. And then Apple and Google came clean

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and said, yeah, we do have this program, and now

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>we know about it. And now you just have to

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>realize that you're never really being anonymous online. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Robin in Fallbrook, California. Robin, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey there, Bruton, is this okay if I'm talking through

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 4>my phone on my car?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah sounds great.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh perfect, Okay, I learned something new.

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<v Speaker 11>All right.

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<v Speaker 10>I have Spectrum at home internet. I have the right

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 10>internet only at my studio office, and now I want

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 10>and then I have a Verizon cell phone service for

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 10>just my husband and I and I'm kind of getting nailed.

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 10>I'm paying like one hundred and seventy five bucks a

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 10>month and it's not even unlimited internet. So we have

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 10>a place out in the middle of a desert where

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 10>I have to take like a they call it like

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 10>a jet path or something.

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to do that anymore because it uses

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 4>up all my.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 10>My my megabytes or data stuff for whatever they give

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 10>you every month. And is there is there something that

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 10>I can have that is like a portable internet that what's.

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<v Speaker 4>That thing with Elon Musk that he has that.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 10>I forget what it's called like a link of starlink.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so a couple of things you can do here.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my question. So you're right now you're paying

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>for what just your phone, your your Verizon serve and

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>when you go to your house in the desert, it's

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>using your jet pack, which is also on your account. Yeah, okay,

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's.

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<v Speaker 4>I need something where I can get unlimited minutes, which

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I can do with consumer cellular for real cheap, but

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 4>they don't have the jet packed capability, so I would

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 4>have cheap internet and cheap cell phone unlimited, but then

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 4>I can't get internet out.

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<v Speaker 1>In the desert, right, Okay, Well, couple, yeah, a couple

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>couple of suggestions for you. So Starlink is Elon Musk's

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>satellite Internet. There's a couple of companies that provide satellite internet.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>It's Starlink, one of them is called hues Net, and

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>then via sat. Now, I believe that the Starlink is

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the fastest of the three and the best technology, but

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be looking at some startup costs and

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>also some monthly costs which are not cheap. So I

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>believe the last time I looked at it, it was

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>about one hundred dollars a month for your Internet through

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Starlink and then a setup fee which I think was

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>close to a couple hundred dollars. So that's going to

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>be a very expensive option if you're not using the

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Internet a ton out there, like if you're living there.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that would be fine. But since you're telling.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Me that you have the ability to use a jetpack

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>at this location, a jet pack is basically just Verizon's

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>branding for a mobile hot spot. So there's a couple

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>things you could do. Number One, you can ask Verizon

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>for a plan that has more hot spot. So what

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I would probably do is this would be this would

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>be the order of things I would do. So, if

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you're already paying Verizon, see what plan you have, right,

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And Verizon has different Internet plans or different phone plans,

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and some of them include mobile hotspot. So if you're

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>using an iPhone or an Android, there is the ability

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to turn your phone into a mobile hot spot, but

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to have a certain amount of data to

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>do that, and all the companies used to kind of

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>include that in the plans. Now it is separated out

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>most of the time and you get a certain allotment

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of that. So with Verizon plans, they're unlimited plans. You

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>may get thirty gigs of hot spot data or fifty

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>gigs of hot spot data. It kind of depends on

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the plan you have with them. So I would go

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to Verizon and ask them and say, Hey, I've got

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>this place in the desert and I want to use

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>my phone as a hot spot. That's the keyword, my

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>phone as a hot spot. Which plan do you think

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is best for that? And they may say okay, Well,

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're on the Unlimited Plus or the Unlimited Ultimate,

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you'll get a certain amount of hot spots. So this

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Ultimate plan includes sixty gigs of mobile hotspot. That's probably

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.959
<v Speaker 1>enough for a month. So that's per month. By the way,

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the middle plan with Verizon will give you oh wow,

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the Unlimited Plus gives you thirty gigs, but you can

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>add an extra one hundred gigs of mobile hotspot. Anyway,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It's very confusing because it all depends on your plan.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So talk to someone at Verizon say hey, look, I

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>want to use my phone as a mobile hotspot at

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>my home. Now, when you get to your house, what

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you would do is you would plug in your phone

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and you would toggle the hot spot, and then your

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.919
<v Speaker 1>devices like your TV and you know, I'm guessing it's

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>just your TV and your computer that you want to

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>connect to this thing. They would connect to your phone

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and your phone would act as the mobile hotspot. I

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>would recommend that you plug in your phone so that

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the battery doesn't go dead instantly.

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Now that's one way of doing it.

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>The other way to do it is both Verizon, T

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Mobile and AT and T. They all have what's called

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>five G home Internet, and Verizon is and T Mobile

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>are especially aggressive in their pricing and their promotions with

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>this home Internet. So if you already have a Verizon

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>signal at this place in the desert, you might just

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 1>want to get the Verizon Home Internet. And all that

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>is is a hot spot, a jet pack that you

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>plug in in that home. It pulls in the cellular

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>connection and then it spits it out as a Wi

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Fi connection. So it's just an industrial hot spot for

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>your entire house. And the good news is if you

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>already have a Verizon account, the pricing is very is

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 1>very aggressive on this, so it's really affordable because they're

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to get people to switch to this. So the pricing,

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how much it is per month sort

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>of depends on your Verizon plan, but I've seen it

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>anywhere from like twenty five to fifty five dollars a month,

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>but especially with the promotions for the first year, you

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>can at least try that out see if it works.

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>That's probably what I would do. Use your phone first.

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>If that doesn't work, if you get really frustrated with that,

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>then I would I would try the home Internet. If

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you're going to move to this place, or you're spending

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>every single weekend there or weeks at a time there

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing work. Maybe check out something like starlink.

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>That's probably the way to go. Question Robin and let

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>me know what you do Rich on tech dot Tv.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Hit contact and keep me posted.

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:06.439
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>DoorDash, if you have DoorDash installed on your phone, you

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>can get free pickup and returns for your packages right now.

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to do five free pickups from

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>your house, you can use the code gift box. And

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>if you have dash Pass, which is their subscription service,

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you can get unlimited free pickups of your packages until

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>December thirtieth.

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>So what does that mean.

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You've got to return something to a store like Macy's

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>or Amazon. You've got the return code that you print

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>out at your house or the label. All you have

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to do is stick that on the package, package it up.

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Someone from DoorDash will come to your house, pick it

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>up and bring it to a FedEx, a UPS or

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a post office. This is for under thirty pounds under

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars. They will do everything you need. If

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>they mess it up, you've got a five hundred dollars reimbursement.

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Claim that you can do.

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Uber also has a similar package return service. I checked

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>on my Uber app and they are doing a promotion

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>where they will give you the first package return for free.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if you're like me, but we

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<v Speaker 1>order a bunch of stuff on Amazon, not all of

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>it works out. So by the front door, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of stuff that we need to return

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<v Speaker 1>to an Amazon Fresh store or a UPS store. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you have that and you want someone to do

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that for you, you can have DoorDash to it, or

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 1>you can have Uber do it. And it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a nice time to try this out during the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>know she's tough, but we get people on so I

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>guess you know, some people are really really nice. You

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>can follow me on social media. I am at rich

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:17.040
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<v Speaker 1>am back on X in a big way. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the blue bubble or not the blue bubble, the blue

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<v Speaker 1>check mark. Yes, I broke down and paid for the

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<v Speaker 1>X because I will tell you why, bo bo. I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you why. I was pure pressured into it

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>because I think I told this story. But I posted

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<v Speaker 1>on there, and look, you know people are still on

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>there and it's tough to argue that. And anyway, I'm

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>having a lot of fun being on there again because

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 1>I kind of gave up on it and now I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm probably over correcting because now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>posting like everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, here's my breakfast. But I'm there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also on Facebook at rich on Tech on all

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of these platforms.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. We got an email from Michael.

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>He said, Visible Wireless is the only phone plan with

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited hotspot that I know of.

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 2>It's twenty five dollars a month, and it's on Verizon.

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It should work in the desert, so yes, Verizon's Visible

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>does have a good plan with unlimited hotspot. There are

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>some limitations that you do need to know about. The

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>speed is capped, so I believe the speed is about

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<v Speaker 1>five megabits per second, which is slow, but it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>enough for like most things like you can probably watch

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Netflix and stuff like that, but you may only be

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>able to connect one device to your phone at a

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>time with that, so check the fine print. There's always

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>fine print with all of these situations. Might have gotten

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>an email from Amazon that says Venmo is no longer

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:58.399
<v Speaker 1>accepted on Amazon dot Com starting January tenth, twenty twenty four.

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Well that was fast. It's so wild how things change.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I remember getting an email from Amazon saying, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>accepting Venmo and we'll give you ten bucks if you

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<v Speaker 1>add it to your account, and I said sure. So

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I authorized my Venmo with my Amazon which I would

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>never do because why would I pay with Venmo? I

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>don't need to just use your card. And I got

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars off my purchase. My Venmo was kind of

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>lingering on my account. Actually, it's funny because I got

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a promo for adding Venmo to my Uber account and

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>my Amazon account, and then, of course what happens is

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you set it as your payment method and you forget,

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and so you start doing charges and they all go

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<v Speaker 1>through Venmo.

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<v Speaker 2>So this happened with Uber, it happened with Amazon.

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh shoot, I don't want to use

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:44.959
<v Speaker 1>Venmo for my Amazon account. And now it's no longer.

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess they're breaking up. That was like less than

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a year that lasted. I don't know what changed, but

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess it didn't work out. Nobody cared, nobody wanted it.

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Might have gotten an email from Ring this week. Ring

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:59.399
<v Speaker 1>says we are reassuring users. On June sixteenth, twenty twenty three,

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>we entered it into a settlement with the FTC to

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<v Speaker 1>resolve allegations that employees and contractors had access to the

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.439
<v Speaker 1>stored videos collected by Ring cameras, and some of these

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>employees viewed videos without permission and no business reason.

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Basically, the FTC said that Ring employees were just kind

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of looking at videos of your doorbell cams without any

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of reason to do that. Now, yeah, that does

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 1>not sound very nice. It says, these individuals are no

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>longer employed by RING, and since twenty eighteen, back when

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this happened, we have significantly changed our access and review practices.

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Now only a small number of employees can access videos

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and in only limited circumstances. Does that sound very reassuring

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to you? Sounds like they can still watch my videos?

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>So number one, is that a peeping tom? Is that

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a oh okay, that's crickets? Someone hiding in the bushes

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>looking at your RING cameras. Now, look, in all seriousness,

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I do think that these companies that have these cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, you have to be aware that there probably

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>is a method that someone can look at your video

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>streams if they need it to in the event that

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>there is a government request, police request. I think the

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>other thing to do here, if you really want to

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>make sure that nobody can see your videos, you can

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>enable what's called end to end encryption. It is not

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>on by default, not every provider offers it. I do

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>believe RING does offer that, but there are some downsides

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to that. Once you enable the end to end encryption,

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>there are some things that are not possible when you

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.240
<v Speaker 1>enable that, and it has to do with how many

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 1>different devices you can view your videos on and the

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 1>notifications and the videos and all that stuff. So it

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>is much easier if you don't enable that. But if

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.319
<v Speaker 1>you want the maximum protection and the maximum security of

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>your cameras, then you know you can enable that.

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 2>It is an option.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that Ring has probably cleaned up

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.319
<v Speaker 1>their act and this was a couple of bad actors.

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're talking five years ago, and it's just

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 1>one of those things where now that people know about it,

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it probably won't happen again. But we do know from

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 1>history that the government and law enforcement if they do

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>request these videos in a you know, in sort of

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 1>a court order or subpoena, they can probably get their

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:30.320
<v Speaker 1>hands on them. So don't put them in your bedroom,

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:34.439
<v Speaker 1>that's the bottom line. Keep them aimed out the front door.

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 1>This is weird. Windows, that's not funny. You don't you

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want cameras in your bedroom in general, Like that's

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of creepy, right. Windows bug renames printers to HP

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>laser Jet. There's a Windows bug that is renaming printers

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to HP laser Jet, regardless of the actual brand model.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>This is affecting Windows ten and Windows eleven device. The

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 1>bug also installs the HP smart app even if you

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>don't need it. Microsoft is investigating and apparently you can

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.399
<v Speaker 1>still print, but double clicking on a printer may show

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a no tasks available error. This bug was first reported

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on December sixth. There's no estimated fixed time. If you're

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.800
<v Speaker 1>really techy, you can block access to the Microsoft Store

0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and that will prevent the bug from renaming your printers.

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>But if you're wondering why this happened, if you're scratching

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 1>your head, you're like, what is going on here?

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 2>It's a bug. You're not going crazy, all right?

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we're going to talk to Mitch Lee, one

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of the founders of ARC. This is a startup that

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>is building an all electric performance speedboat. I was on it.

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It is pretty fun, no fumes. We'll talk to Mitch

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Lee coming up next right here on rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to rich On Tech.

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology on location.

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.879
<v Speaker 1>We've done interviews in the plane. This is the first

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:01.560
<v Speaker 1>time I've done an inner view on a boat. We

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<v Speaker 1>are in Long Beach and joining me now is Mitchley

0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of ARC Boats.

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining me.

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<v Speaker 6>It's great to be here and we are excited to

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 6>have you out on our one of our boats.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is an all electric boat. Describe what we

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:15.919
<v Speaker 1>are on right now.

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<v Speaker 6>This boat that we're on now is called the ARC one.

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<v Speaker 6>It is the first model boat that we brought to market.

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 6>It's a twenty four foot fully electric power boat, capable

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<v Speaker 6>of five hundred horsepower and software limited to forty miles

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 6>an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've already been on it spoiler alert, and it's

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>quite incredible. It's quiet, it's smooth, it's powerful. Tell me

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 1>about the company. Let's start with ARC You're based in

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, and what are you trying to do?

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 6>This company didn't even exist three years ago, and at

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 6>this point we have already manufactured and delivered the ARC

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 6>one to our initial customers. The entire company is now

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 6>focused on the next model we're bringing to market, which

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 6>is a mass market wakesport boat. If you zoom back out,

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 6>as a company, our goal is to electrify everything on

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 6>the water. Electric boats make a ton more sense than

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 6>gas boats across pretty much every aspect of boating. The

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 6>ownership experience is much nicer. They're quiet, We can hold

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 6>an interview on a boat. You're not smelling fumes. They're

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 6>far more reliable, they're less expensive to operate, and the

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:28.320
<v Speaker 6>experience of operating one itself is so much better thanks

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 6>to software and the technology on this boat. The hard

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 6>part is actually putting enough energy on the boat to

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:37.919
<v Speaker 6>move through water at high speeds and with a lot

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:41.839
<v Speaker 6>of power. That is what we specialize in. We build

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.799
<v Speaker 6>our holes, our battery packs, and a lot of the

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 6>systems that go into this boat in house in our

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 6>manufacturing facility in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Mitch, what made you wake up and say I

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.720
<v Speaker 1>would like to electrify a boat.

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<v Speaker 6>I am a lifelong boating enthusiast. My parents were boating enthusiasts,

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 6>and particularly water ski enthusiasts. They love to slalom ski.

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 6>So I grew up out getting dragged behind a boat

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:12.399
<v Speaker 6>with wakeboarding and knee boarding and water skiing and wakesurfing.

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 6>This is what I love to do with my time.

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 6>I also have a degree in mechanical engineering and spent

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 6>a while portion of my career as a software developer,

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 6>and this is kind of the marriage of all of

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 6>those things, my passion and my actual career.

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 1>When I tell people I'm going out on an electric boat.

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>They say, oh, a duffy because people think of a

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>low powered or slower kind of boat. That's not what

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you set out to build.

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<v Speaker 6>No, we absolutely want to change the perception of electric

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 6>boats in the same way that most people associate electric

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 6>cars with performance, with really fast zero to sixty times.

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 6>We are here to change the perception of electric boats

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 6>on the water, and hopefully your experience today made that point.

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So we're on the arc one.

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 1>This is the boat that you initially sold. You made

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a couple dozen of them, and now you're onto Well,

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>tell me some of the features of this unit that

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 1>we're on.

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 2>So this was a limited edition boat that.

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Was our first entrance into the market, into the marine space.

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.439
<v Speaker 6>It consists of two battery packs. Each one of those

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 6>battery packs is larger than pretty much anything you'd find

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.480
<v Speaker 6>in an electric car. In total, it's two hundred and

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 6>twenty kilowat hours of battery capacity, which, as a point

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 6>of references, roughly three times the size of a Model

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 6>Y battery pack. The boat is laid out in an

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 6>open seating arrangement. Given that everything is packaged below the floor,

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 6>that affords a lot of space, a lot of space

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 6>for storage and a lot of space for seating on

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 6>the boat of this size.

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a big boat. It's got a lot of space.

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's got a lot of space for people. Again, it's fast,

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:04.479
<v Speaker 1>it's quiet. There is absolutely no scent to the boat.

0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no fumes, there's none of that boating scent that

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you kind of associate with being out on the open water.

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a very simple setup. So you've got just the

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<v Speaker 1>steering wheel, the throttle. You've got this nice big screen

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of very Tesla esque in the center,

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<v Speaker 1>which is showing maps, music. There's even a backup camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if you can call it a back it's

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<v Speaker 1>a back camera. I should say. You see your current speed,

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<v Speaker 1>your current battery, You've got a compass, the water temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the water depth. Do you think that this

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<v Speaker 1>appeals to someone who has grown up with an iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>or someone who is driving a Tesla.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to make better boats and we hope that

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<v Speaker 6>those boats and expect that those boats will appeal both

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<v Speaker 6>to people that have grown up boating and people that

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<v Speaker 6>are brand new to it. By making boats far easier

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<v Speaker 6>to own and far less expensive to actually operate, opens

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<v Speaker 6>up the market. These are simply better boats. They solve

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<v Speaker 6>the main pain points with gas boats today.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the charging situation? How long does it take

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<v Speaker 1>to charge? How much time do you get out in

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<v Speaker 1>the water on a charge?

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<v Speaker 2>We think in terms of usage time.

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<v Speaker 6>We want people to be able to use their boat

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<v Speaker 6>exactly how they want to use it for a full day,

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<v Speaker 6>plug in at the end of the day, and wake

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<v Speaker 6>up the next morning with a boat that is ready

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<v Speaker 6>to hit the water again. In practice, that tends to

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<v Speaker 6>mean three to five hours of active usage time. That

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<v Speaker 6>is a much better experience than what you gas boat

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<v Speaker 6>owners deal with today, lugging gas cans down to a

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<v Speaker 6>dock and filling it up manually, having to go twenty

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<v Speaker 6>minutes away to the nearest marina to pay ten dollars

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<v Speaker 6>a gallon, or any of the other creative solutions people

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<v Speaker 6>come up with.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the chargers readily accessible? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>This boat uses what's known as a CCS one charger.

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<v Speaker 6>It is the same style of charger that you use

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<v Speaker 6>for any electric car on the road today. And another

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<v Speaker 6>awesome part about electric boats is that they tend to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Easier access to power.

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<v Speaker 6>When you look across a marina today, most of those

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<v Speaker 6>marinas actually already are equipped with what is known as

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<v Speaker 6>shore power, because even gas boats use electricity to power

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<v Speaker 6>refrigerators or bilge pumps or other accessories on the boat.

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<v Speaker 6>You can just plug straight into that, plug it into

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<v Speaker 6>your boat, and again wake up the next morning with

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<v Speaker 6>the charge. Boat docks tend to be the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the ARC One already. People are using this

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<v Speaker 1>out in the world. You're learning a lot of data

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<v Speaker 1>from that, and you're now building your mass market electric boat.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we expect from that.

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<v Speaker 6>The next boat we're bringing to market is a mass

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<v Speaker 6>market wakesport boat. We'll have more to share about that soon.

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<v Speaker 6>But as with a lot of new technology, the goal

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<v Speaker 6>is to, over the course of our development time, make

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<v Speaker 6>the technology more accessible to more people. Our goal is

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<v Speaker 6>eventually for every boat on the water to be electric.

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<v Speaker 6>It makes sense from a customer perspective, from a product perspective,

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<v Speaker 6>and from environment perspective. We want to make it happen,

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<v Speaker 6>and we want to make it happen quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>How much are we talking for this boat for the

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<v Speaker 1>buyers that already have it, and also the upcoming model.

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<v Speaker 6>This boat was the ARC One was three hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a all in price that includes trailer delivery and

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<v Speaker 6>best in class service.

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<v Speaker 2>That might sound like a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>But gas boats today of this size routinely sell for

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<v Speaker 6>that amount of money. Boats just tend to be more

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<v Speaker 6>expensive than automotive. Having said that, our goal is to

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<v Speaker 6>drop the price of these boats over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Performance wise, we were doing some what do you call

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<v Speaker 1>them s turns, S curves, and it was pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 1>This boat goes very fast, It has a lot of maneuverability.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like you have a lot of control in

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<v Speaker 1>this boat. Advantages of the electric system.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so one of the things that we have designed

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<v Speaker 6>into this boat is the ability to go quickly from

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<v Speaker 6>zero up to top speed. You also get a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of torque at low speeds, which makes it easy to

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<v Speaker 6>pull a wake order water skier out of the water,

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<v Speaker 6>and it also makes the acceleration quite fun. So we

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<v Speaker 6>were out there doing what are known as hole shots,

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<v Speaker 6>which is when you pin the throttle down and let

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<v Speaker 6>the boats software take over and accelerate that boat up

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<v Speaker 6>to top speed and then turn that into s turns

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<v Speaker 6>where you're cranking the wheel left and right and going

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<v Speaker 6>back and forth and really experiencing how sporty this boat is.

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<v Speaker 6>We are not taking away from any part of your experience.

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<v Speaker 6>This is absolutely better than what you're experiencing today on

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<v Speaker 6>gas boats.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mitch Lee, one of the founders of ARC.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell folks how they can learn more about the company.

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<v Speaker 6>Go to arcboats dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining me today on the open water.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want a link to that, I'll put on

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<v Speaker 1>my website. Rich on Tech dot TV more rich on.

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<v Speaker 2>Tech coming your way. Do you have a question about technology?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a call.

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<v Speaker 1>The number is triple eight rich one O one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Richdmuro and you are listening to rich

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<v Speaker 2>on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Tomuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology. The phone line is triple

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two.

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<v Speaker 2>Four one zero one. Ah. Did you like the electric boat?

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<v Speaker 2>That thing was so fun?

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was loving it the entire time up until they

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<v Speaker 1>said the price, and I just about I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, wait why. I know boats are expensive, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of these things where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted it so badly. Like now that I saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ah, this is great. U let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Chris in Glendale.

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<v Speaker 11>Chris John with Rich high Rich, thank you continuing my call.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a bit of a text I know, so this

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<v Speaker 8>might be user error and I can't keep calling my

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<v Speaker 8>thirty year old daughter to resolve this.

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<v Speaker 2>But when i'm that's usually what happens.

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<v Speaker 8>It always happens. I'm out and about. I have an

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<v Speaker 8>Apple phone, I have ways of application, I have Google Maps,

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<v Speaker 8>I have the various apps. I'll be lost and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>trying to get somewhere, and when I try to use

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<v Speaker 8>these apps, it comes up with no Wi Fi connection. However,

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<v Speaker 8>I have.

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<v Speaker 11>My cellular data on my roaming on my personal hotspot on.

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<v Speaker 11>I thought that because I have all those things on,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm going to be connected to my carrier, to a

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<v Speaker 11>Wi Fi signal. I guess that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you're in a spot where you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>the information you need from these apps because your phone

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it's connected, but it's not getting the data

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<v Speaker 1>needs right. Okay, Well, I have two solutions for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, You're not alone. This happens all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on the iPhone. Happens to me, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you it's actually kind of weird. Number One, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the iPhone does a good job of ditching

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi when there's not a good Wi Fi signal.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's happening is your iPhone when you're using it,

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<v Speaker 1>is managing your cellular and your Wi Fi all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's toggling those and using the connections based on availability

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<v Speaker 1>now most of the time. And let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example of how this works. So let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>are driving in your car and you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no Wi Fi signal around you. The iPhone recognizes that

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<v Speaker 1>and it says, okay, we're going to use Chris's internet

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<v Speaker 1>connection from Verizon or T Mobile or AT and T.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, it finds when you

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<v Speaker 1>come into your living room, says, oh, we noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris's Wi Fi signal at home is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's use that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the phone we'll switch to using that signal

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<v Speaker 1>because it's saying, well, we always want to use Wi

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<v Speaker 1>Fi when it's available, because it's usually a better connection,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cheaper, it's more readily available, whatever. But sometimes your

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<v Speaker 1>phone gets tripped up and there's a Wi Fi signal

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<v Speaker 1>that it thinks it can latch onto, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>valid or it's not usable. And this happens with my

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<v Speaker 1>phone a lot because of spectrum has these hot spots

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<v Speaker 1>all over the city, and I connected to it once

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<v Speaker 1>and my phone thinks that it can always connect to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but somehow it's not a valid connection or a Starbucks

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<v Speaker 1>connection that you have to click into. So the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is there's a lot of times when your phone does

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<v Speaker 1>not have a connection when it thinks it does, and

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<v Speaker 1>it should drop that Wi Fi but it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So a couple things you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this is annoying, but if you're ever

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation and you need a quick fix, you

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<v Speaker 1>can swipe down from the upper right hand corner of

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone and you'll notice there's a Wi Fi signal.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tap that Wi Fi signal and it should

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<v Speaker 1>be blue if it's on. If you tap it, it

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<v Speaker 1>will turn white, and that means the Wi Fi signal

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<v Speaker 1>is off. Now, that does not turn off Wi Fi forever.

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<v Speaker 1>That only turns it off temporarily to get you out

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<v Speaker 1>of that situation. And then once your phone gets to

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<v Speaker 1>a place where there is a valid Wi Fi signal

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<v Speaker 1>that it recognizes. Again, like when you get home, your

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<v Speaker 1>phone will automatically toggle the Wi Fi back on and

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<v Speaker 1>it will connect to that Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two I think is another solution that when you're

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<v Speaker 1>running into this issue is what's called offline maps. Now

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<v Speaker 1>on ways, I don't know if you can download offline maps.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see if you can do that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you can do that. Let's see settings. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see do they have an offline I don't think they do,

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<v Speaker 1>but and they might. But on Google Maps, there is

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<v Speaker 1>something called offline maps, and I highly recommend that you

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<v Speaker 1>download these for the areas that you frequent. So, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>if you live in Los Angeles, you can download pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all of the maps for Los Angeles, so they

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<v Speaker 1>are on your phone. And there's two ways to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is kind of a secret way. So just

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<v Speaker 1>go to your open up your Google Maps and you

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<v Speaker 1>can type in okay maps, And if you type in

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<v Speaker 1>that keyword, it's like a little hack. It's a little trick.

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<v Speaker 1>It will say download this map, and now you can

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<v Speaker 1>zoom out and download pretty much all of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>and I highly recommend you do this because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to take up much data on your phone, like

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<v Speaker 1>for literally the entire area of LA. It's saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take up three hundred and twenty megabytes, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can zoom in to just do like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the basin. What I don't know, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I call the basin And is that like

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<v Speaker 1>a part of LA you know, just like whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also recommend that you do this for any

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<v Speaker 1>city that you're visiting. So if you are visiting let's

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<v Speaker 1>say Seattle in the next couple of weeks, I would

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<v Speaker 1>type in Seattle and you can do the same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you type in Seattle and then you scroll up,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see where it says download offline map, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can tap that, and that means all of Seattle would

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<v Speaker 1>now be downloaded onto your phone. And so what that

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<v Speaker 1>means is that anytime you're in Seattle or navigating, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>always have the ability to get directions in that place,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't have a valid cellular connection in

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<v Speaker 1>that area. So highly recommend it. Two ways to do it. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the keyword is okay maps, and if you type it in,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like, you know, Google has all these

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<v Speaker 1>engineers that are just kind of like, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>nerdy like myself, and nerds love secret little hacks like

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<v Speaker 1>that Okay Maps. It's like, you know, okay computer kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. So you type in okay maps and it

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<v Speaker 1>will bring up the secret way to download any map. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you fancy Apple Maps, you can. They just added

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to do offline maps. So the way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it on Apple Maps is if you type in

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<v Speaker 1>a city. Let's type in Seattle again and you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>if you start typing in a city, it will come

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<v Speaker 1>up with that city name and you can tap download

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<v Speaker 1>and it will give you the downloaded maps for that city.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Ways offers offline maps. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>check real quick and I'll see offline maps are not

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<v Speaker 1>available at this point in Ways. But a good question,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that will help you out the next time

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<v Speaker 1>you are in a pinch with that situation. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have Disney Plus, you might have noticed on

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<v Speaker 1>your TV screen a new Hulu icon on the Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Plus app. And this is because Disney is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to merge these two services. Disney Plus and Hulu are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be one app come March twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now they're testing it with some people. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not subscribe to Hulu at this point, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have this, but I got a bunch of emails

1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:06.559
<v Speaker 1>from people saying, rich, Hulu is now on my Disney screen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a subscriber of both Disney Plus and Hulu,

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<v Speaker 1>you might notice that that Hulu hub is now on

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<v Speaker 1>your TV screen. So the reason they're doing this is

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<v Speaker 1>because it makes sense. Disney owns both of these services,

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<v Speaker 1>why not have them mixed into one place where you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch the shows from all of them. So if

1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you have it, you've got access to both, but you

1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:29.840
<v Speaker 1>do have to pay. This is not something where you

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<v Speaker 1>just have it if you don't pay. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>else here. If you want to talk to Santa in

1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.880
<v Speaker 1>augmented reality, this is really cute. If you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the website ask Santa dot app, Ask Santa dot App,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to this from your phone's web browser. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no download necessary. This is an augmented reality Santa experience

1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:55.599
<v Speaker 1>which lets you talk to Santa in real time and

1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of cute the way they do it. You

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<v Speaker 1>basically aim your phone at the sky. You have to

1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:02.040
<v Speaker 1>aim your smart phone at the sky. You tap your

1:13:02.080 --> 1:13:04.559
<v Speaker 1>phone screen and next thing you know, Santa will come

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<v Speaker 1>down to your backyard and you can talk to Santa

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<v Speaker 1>using AI. This is available now through January fifth. Again

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<v Speaker 1>the website Asksanta dot App. This is from Nyantik, the

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<v Speaker 1>creators of Pokemon Go. So it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Try it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask Santa dot app. Eighty to eight rich one O one.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to rich on Tech. We'll have more

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<v Speaker 1>coming up right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim sent an email about the whole Beeper Mini situation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the app that brings iMessage to Android, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is really about allocating resources to develop a

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<v Speaker 1>superior product and then have companies with a lesser product

1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:32.360
<v Speaker 1>wanting to use it and make money. If Apple users

1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:34.599
<v Speaker 1>don't like that, their friends have green words and they

1:14:34.640 --> 1:14:36.759
<v Speaker 1>are free to trade in their iPhones for an Android,

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<v Speaker 1>and Android users who don't like the interface can buy

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<v Speaker 1>an iPhone. I haven't talked to any iPhone users who

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<v Speaker 1>complain or want to switch. Plus, Beeper money will make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Beeper Mini will make a ton of money without the

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<v Speaker 1>upfront cost of developing I message. If a company cannot

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<v Speaker 1>develop a superior product and protect it, then no company

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<v Speaker 1>will spend the money on development. Rich How would you

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<v Speaker 1>feel if someone duplicated your show, called it Rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech and aired it at the same time you aired

1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:04.679
<v Speaker 1>and took your audience that you built up. Jim, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the radio show thing is the same.

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<v Speaker 1>That's basically competition and bring it on. If someone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk technology at the same time and compete for listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I think the issue I take with I

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<v Speaker 1>Message is that it is unnecessarily dividing the world. So

1:15:25.320 --> 1:15:30.000
<v Speaker 1>technology is supposed to connect us, right. Imagine back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day when we had telephones, like a telephone line

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<v Speaker 1>that was in your house and you had AT and

1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:38.680
<v Speaker 1>T and someone else had Verizon in your phone like

1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:42.360
<v Speaker 1>a standard phone line, and you tried to call that person,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, oh, sorry, you can't call them because they

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<v Speaker 1>have Verizon. It doesn't work like No, everything works the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You call them, it goes through. It works email, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter if you send through Yahoo, Hotmail, Aol, Gmail, it

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<v Speaker 1>all works the same. There are things that are standardized.

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<v Speaker 1>You plug in an HDMI cable, it is standardized. You

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<v Speaker 1>plug in a coax cable, it is standardized. Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>is standardized. Messaging is standardized. There is a standard message protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple has booked that trend because they locked people into

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<v Speaker 1>I Message. Now, yes, you can say you can opt out,

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<v Speaker 1>but the thing is it's using your phone number and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the iPhone. So I just feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way they went about it, and they knew

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<v Speaker 1>what they had here, believe me, because they would have

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<v Speaker 1>come up with an I message app years ago if

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't think that this locked people into their phones.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, it's great and it works really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can get all of those features on WhatsApp, on Telegram,

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<v Speaker 1>on Signal, on RCS, on Facebook Messenger, Instagram Messenger, any

1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:52.880
<v Speaker 1>other app in the world will work like this. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is the cross message functionality. The cross platform

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<v Speaker 1>functionality is what I take issue with. When you're sending

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<v Speaker 1>a text message, it should send the same way to

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<v Speaker 1>any phone, and we have protocols in place for that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. Apple is adopting those protocols, but it's confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to the average person that is just using their phone

1:17:13.439 --> 1:17:16.280
<v Speaker 1>number on an iPhone and they don't understand why when

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<v Speaker 1>they text someone a picture or a video to an

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<v Speaker 1>Android it comes out all pixelated. They don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening, and they think it's because Android is not good.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I take issue with that. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to nas in Irvine. Nas am I saying that right, Yes, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Are saying it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, You've got to move, You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>move to a better place in your in your home

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<v Speaker 1>so I can hear you better.

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<v Speaker 2>I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really getting some breakup, So move to a better place.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back to you in a moment. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Sarah and Ventura. Sarah, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 12>I was calling because I have a problem with I

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<v Speaker 12>was trying to head trap off my Internet, and then

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<v Speaker 12>I was logging back into it. And then when I was,

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<v Speaker 12>it said suddenly that it was untrusted.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean you turned off your Internet?

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<v Speaker 12>I mean I turned off the router. Why there is

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<v Speaker 12>something happening with it? Like I would be going to

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<v Speaker 12>a page and then it would like kind of scroll

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<v Speaker 12>backwards and go to the main screen like it would

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<v Speaker 12>just It's like someone said, ah, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 12>is it called? When we will?

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<v Speaker 1>So what's happening now? You just you're just you can't

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<v Speaker 1>serve the Internet on your computer or what?

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<v Speaker 12>No. I I was trying to log into my Internet,

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<v Speaker 12>and I said it so that it wouldn't log in automatically.

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<v Speaker 12>I have to manually do that. So when I did tried,

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<v Speaker 12>it said FFL is untrusted. Then on the page inside

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<v Speaker 12>it's said data colon checks slash HTML.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you I'm confused. Why you need to log

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<v Speaker 1>into your internet at home?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this at home or a home? Okay? And who's

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<v Speaker 2>your internet provider? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're turning off Are you turning off your router regularly?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, because I'm getting some kind of problem with it.

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<v Speaker 12>And after talking to a test who came to here,

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<v Speaker 12>he said I would check it and see if someone

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<v Speaker 12>is gaining access to.

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<v Speaker 1>Your No, no one's gaining access. I mean turning off

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<v Speaker 1>your router is okay. But like I've had my Internet

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<v Speaker 1>in my house for ten years, I've never turned it off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, unless there's a power out, there's no reason

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<v Speaker 1>to turn your internet. And if you're using uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the way that these routers come from Spectrum or

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<v Speaker 1>any company, they typically have secure passwords, and unless someone

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<v Speaker 1>is physically gaining access to your house, they're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>on your your internet at home. So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>By turning off your router and making it so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to log into your Internet, it's just causing all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of problems. So you might have to pay Spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>to come out there and kind of like reset things

1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:23.400
<v Speaker 1>if you've changed settings. But it sounds like you've tweaked

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that doesn't really need tweaking. These things should just

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<v Speaker 1>be set it and forget it. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>secure your Internet, there's two things I recommend. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>when you come up with your Wi Fi password and SSID,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not using the one that Spectrum assigned to you,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can change it. Make sure that that is secure.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure it's not something that's easily guessable. If you

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<v Speaker 1>think that your neighbor is trying to latch onto your Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>you can always do what's called hiding the SSID, which

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<v Speaker 1>if you go into the settings on the router, there

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<v Speaker 1>is an option to make it so that your router

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<v Speaker 1>does not show your work to other computers. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you won't even see it. You have to log in manually.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend that for like ninety nine point nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people unless you are running some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, security highly secure network at your house

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason. Otherwise, I think what I would try

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<v Speaker 1>to do is just factory reset the router. So there

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<v Speaker 1>should be a push button on there that you can

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<v Speaker 1>press and hold for a very long time and it

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<v Speaker 1>will bring everything back to factory settings. I would do

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<v Speaker 1>that and turn off your computer, reset your computer. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to reconnect your computer and your other devices to

1:21:38.960 --> 1:21:41.439
<v Speaker 1>this router. But in general, there is no reason to

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<v Speaker 1>turn off your router. And if you're suspecting that your

1:21:44.160 --> 1:21:47.920
<v Speaker 1>neighbor is on your router, there's typically a way to

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<v Speaker 1>log in to your router on the back end using

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<v Speaker 1>the information on the bottom of it and see a

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<v Speaker 1>list of all of the devices that are currently accessing

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<v Speaker 1>that router. And if you see neighbor Gym's computer on there,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got a problem. But ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time that is not the case, Sarah. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I would stop resetting the router unless you have like

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<v Speaker 1>an Internet connection issue, like if your powers going out

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, NAS in Irvine. Uh, you're on with Rich

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<v Speaker 1>you there? Nas you there?

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<v Speaker 10>Is it better?

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<v Speaker 8>Is it better?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Much better? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you so much for your great program.

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<v Speaker 9>Very informative.

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<v Speaker 11>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>I have a question regarding TV.

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<v Speaker 8>We have a package with clocks. It's a basic cable.

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<v Speaker 9>A landline phone, and a DVR that you can record

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<v Speaker 9>our programs and also the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recommend something else?

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<v Speaker 10>If you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 8>Stay with cocks but have the same page. That's something

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<v Speaker 8>you can record.

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<v Speaker 2>How much are you paying for this?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm paying about two hundred dollars and fluctuates.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you're a little bit so yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's called the triple play.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the Internet, you've got the full cable package,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got your phone through them. About two hundred

1:23:08.280 --> 1:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>dollars is kind of like you know, the running cost

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<v Speaker 1>for that. And the only way that you could save

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<v Speaker 1>money here is if you switch to a different provider

1:23:18.600 --> 1:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that is in your area and they have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve month promotional pricing fee and like it maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars a month or something for first twelve months.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is if you stay with cos and

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<v Speaker 1>you just keep the Internet and then you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>streaming services, number one, your Internet is probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>be more expensive. You know, they might charge you one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars a month for just the Internet, and then

1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:47.559
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna start getting your streaming services on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix is going to be twenty dollars, Disney Plus is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be thirteen bucks, Hulu is going to be another

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<v Speaker 1>couple bucks. So there are ways of doing that, but

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<v Speaker 1>the triple play that you have is probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the cheapest if you like all that stuff. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need all that stuff, if you're not watching

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of Bravo and a ton of ESPN a

1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>ton of sports, you probably don't need all of that

1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:10.559
<v Speaker 1>cable package. But if you're just gonna go and sign

1:24:10.640 --> 1:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>up with these cable packages independently, like if you go

1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>with YouTube TV or Fubo or any of this stuff,

1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna come out to the same price, if

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<v Speaker 1>not more so. The only way to really save is

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<v Speaker 1>to get internet only, drop the other two services and

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<v Speaker 1>then bring on a couple of streaming services on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But you're still talking, you know, one hundred

1:24:32.280 --> 1:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars if you're doing that. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>check to see if there's any other providers in your

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<v Speaker 1>area for the cheaper internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question there.

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<v Speaker 1>Nos eighty to eight rich one o one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you at triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Free call from anywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. Remember when calls were not free, like in general,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember, you used to have to choose a

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<v Speaker 1>long distance operator, Like remember, MCI, when was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time you heard that spoken out of someone's lips? MCI,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 13>That was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, bobo.

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<v Speaker 1>They had all these codes you could dial before your

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<v Speaker 1>before your long distance call to like save money. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>those were the good old days, right, And you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much your phone bill was. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the month, you would get it and it would

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<v Speaker 1>just be some random, arbitrary amount. Sometimes it was a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it was a little.

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<v Speaker 2>You just didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, people probably got ripped off a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot more back then, because who really looked at

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff and took the time to call in and

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<v Speaker 1>say like, hey, MCI, I'm noticing I got charged eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five ninety nine for a call to my grandma and Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>And they'd be like, yeah, that's how much it costs

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<v Speaker 1>to call her for three minutes. You're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the party line we had. This is before

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<v Speaker 1>your time, Bobo, no bobo saying remember this. My grandma

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<v Speaker 1>had a house like in the middle of like the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would lift up the phone line and there

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<v Speaker 1>would be someone on the phone line, like a party line.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd share the phone line, like what kind of craziness

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<v Speaker 1>did we grow up with? You could listen to someone

1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>else's phone line like conversation what and we're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff? And to end encryption like no, you

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<v Speaker 1>would just pick up the line and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are you on?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you like pick up the line in five more minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be done? What what kind of Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun when you think about this stuff, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is why you've got to talk to your grandparents and

1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>people and your family and just ask questions, like just

1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>to ask, you know, if you have a loved one

1:26:52.680 --> 1:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>around that was around before you, like what what was I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like as a kid? What what was this like? Or what?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's so wild, the stuff that just by.

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<v Speaker 1>Exploring and being curious, like even though you think you

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<v Speaker 1>remember all this stuff, you don't, and just by hearing it,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes out loud, it just brings back, you know, conjures

1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:16.559
<v Speaker 1>up these memories. Uh, all right, let's get to some

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<v Speaker 1>news items here. Verizon has a bundle with Netflix and

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<v Speaker 1>Max for ten dollars a month. Verizon's got a new

1:27:24.479 --> 1:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>perk for My plan users. You can get an ad

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<v Speaker 1>supported Max and Netflix for ten dollars a month. Sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have an Unlimited Welcome, Unlimited Plus or Unlimited

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate plan. It's cheaper than subscribing to both services separately.

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<v Speaker 1>It saves you about seven dollars a month. But here

1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:43.519
<v Speaker 1>is the thing. This is what I don't like about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's so tempting because these companies want you

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<v Speaker 1>to bundle. It's kind of like what we were talking

1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>about with NAS. It's like bundling saves money, and the

1:27:52.760 --> 1:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>cable companies were all about bundling, and now it's the

1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>cellular companies are all about bundling. But here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>When you need to make a change, there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more friction.

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<v Speaker 2>So, for instance, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I've got my Peloton and my Netflix bundled up

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<v Speaker 1>through my wireless provider. Now I don't know when that ends,

1:28:12.479 --> 1:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and so what's gonna happen is invariably I'm gonna wake

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<v Speaker 1>up to a bill for my wireless provider. It's gonna

1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>be like another two hundred dollars and I'd be like, wait, what, Oh,

1:28:20.560 --> 1:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to change my Peloton and my Netflix and

1:28:23.400 --> 1:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>whatever promotion I had is gonna expire. So that's why

1:28:27.240 --> 1:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>they like you to do it is because they are

1:28:29.360 --> 1:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>now in control. If you don't have this bundle, you

1:28:33.040 --> 1:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>can go to Peloton dot com or Max dot com

1:28:36.160 --> 1:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and you can easily change things as you need. But

1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>once things are bundled, it gets a little bit more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it's that tiny bit of friction that companies

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<v Speaker 1>like because you may be able to call the next

1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>time after you see that on your bill, but now

1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>they've just won one extra bill on you, and that

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<v Speaker 1>one extra bill at ten, fifteen twenty dollars a month

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<v Speaker 1>times millions of customers is a whole lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So I personally do not like bundling. Even if it

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<v Speaker 1>saves you money in the short term, it may not

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<v Speaker 1>save you money.

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<v Speaker 2>In the long term.

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<v Speaker 1>Meta launches a free AI image generator called Imagine and

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<v Speaker 1>guess what It's trained on all the pictures you've been

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<v Speaker 1>uploading to Facebook and Instagram over the years. You knew

1:29:21.120 --> 1:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>this was happening. Nothing is really for free. All those

1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>pictures you've been uploading to Facebook and Instagram. If they're public,

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<v Speaker 1>they might have trained this AI model called emu EMU.

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<v Speaker 1>It's trained on one point one billion Facebook and Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>user photos. You can try this out if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Imagine dot Meta dot com. You have to log

1:29:41.880 --> 1:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in with your Facebook account. You can type in whatever

1:29:44.360 --> 1:29:48.519
<v Speaker 1>you want it to create, plane flying over cotton, candy clouds,

1:29:48.600 --> 1:29:51.439
<v Speaker 1>and it'll create four images for you, all for free.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you notice that that picture looks like your

1:29:54.680 --> 1:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>old girlfriend or you know someone in your family that

1:29:58.200 --> 1:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you uploaded earlier, make no mistake, it's because they train

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<v Speaker 1>this AI model on these user uploaded pictures. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding, you're probably not going to find a picture

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like someone you know. But the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>when you are not paying for something, your data is

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<v Speaker 1>the payment, and that's what happens here. Now I'm not

1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>saying this is bad, it's kind of what's happening. All

1:30:20.960 --> 1:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>these AI image generators have to be trained on something,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them are just scraping images from

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<v Speaker 1>the web. But Meta had people upload a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff over the years that they can use for this.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you probably tagged your images too,

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<v Speaker 1>with different things like descriptions, like maybe you uploaded a

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<v Speaker 1>pizza and you said, oh, best pepperoni pizza from Sal's

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<v Speaker 1>Pizzeria in Hoboken, And now they know exactly what that

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<v Speaker 1>pizza looks like because you've described exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>What that image contains. Very very smart.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Coming up next, we're going to talk accessibility,

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's new app, Apple's personal voice feature, and a new

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<v Speaker 1>controller from PlayStation. It's all coming up right here on

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<v Speaker 1>the rich On Tech Radio show. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology at Triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one eighty eight seven four to two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. If you have some feedback for the show

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get it in the feedback segment later on. Send

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<v Speaker 1>it in right now on the website Richontech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit contact if you want to get your voice in

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Tell me what's good, what's bad, what

1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you like or anything you want to comment about. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring on Steven Aquino, freelance tech journalist covers accessibility

1:31:44.800 --> 1:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and assist of technologies for outlets like Forbes. Steven, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Hey there, I am doing great. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me today. So tell me about your interest

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<v Speaker 1>in covering accessibility.

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<v Speaker 2>How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 12>Sure, well, it.

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<v Speaker 13>Really comes about because I was born freame much really

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<v Speaker 13>and I have a whole host of us the build

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<v Speaker 13>what it is that I've dealt with my entire life,

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<v Speaker 13>and you know it. They have affect how I use

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<v Speaker 13>you know, everything, and that includes technology. So I just

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<v Speaker 13>want to show people that not everybody uses technology in

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<v Speaker 13>the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is very true. And I think that technology

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<v Speaker 1>has actually been a great you know, it's helped a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people with varying of abilities do things because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got stuff like larger text on screens, readers,

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff that has really I think done a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk first about this Seeing AI app. It's

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<v Speaker 1>now available and Android. This is from Microsoft, and this

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<v Speaker 1>app narrates the world for the blind and low vision.

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<v Speaker 1>It can read text, it can identify products and describe photos.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you make of this app? Have you

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<v Speaker 2>used it?

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<v Speaker 1>I have not.

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<v Speaker 13>I definitely reheard it and what it is is like

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<v Speaker 13>just as you were saying, it basically helps people like

1:33:45.439 --> 1:33:50.719
<v Speaker 13>me who have low eye sight or no vision you've

1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:55.840
<v Speaker 13>been at all, to be able to identify by objects

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<v Speaker 13>or even you know, other humans, you know in the

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<v Speaker 13>real world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is now available on Android. It used

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<v Speaker 1>to just be on iOS, so that is available now

1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>from Microsoft. It's called Seeing AI and it's available in

1:34:14.000 --> 1:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>eighteen languages. It's free to use, and you know, it's

1:34:18.280 --> 1:34:20.679
<v Speaker 1>a great thing that you can aim it at something

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<v Speaker 1>and have it read text, identify an object, or describe

1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:27.519
<v Speaker 1>a picture. And it's also I guess they improved a

1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit because they brought it to Android. They've got

1:34:30.439 --> 1:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>richer descriptions of photos and you can also kind of

1:34:33.439 --> 1:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>go back and forth with documents a little bit, so

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<v Speaker 1>it does use some AI there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about this feature on iOS.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Personal Voice and basically you can record. This

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<v Speaker 1>is for folks that are at risk of losing their voice,

1:34:49.760 --> 1:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and you can record your voice and kind of save

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<v Speaker 1>it for later.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make of that feature?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure, so.

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<v Speaker 13>This feature isn't intended for When it first came out,

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<v Speaker 13>Apple said that they worked with people at the l

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<v Speaker 13>the teams patients helping people with als, and the whole

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<v Speaker 13>idea here is that at some point someone with a

1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:44.439
<v Speaker 13>LS is gonna lose their build goody to speak. So

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<v Speaker 13>the idea with this software is that you record I

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<v Speaker 13>think it's fifteen minutes of spoken text through your and then.

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<v Speaker 2>The software will.

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<v Speaker 13>Forward that and you'll be able to talk using your

1:36:13.160 --> 1:36:14.799
<v Speaker 13>own voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this is like in you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a a you know, a system that would do

1:36:22.000 --> 1:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a generic kind of computerized voice. Now you can actually

1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>type something and speak it in your own voice, which

1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>is pretty incredible just how far we've come with that technology,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since it's available on the iPhone. I did try

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<v Speaker 1>this out and it did take It took a little

1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>bit longer than I thought, Like, you can't just do

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<v Speaker 1>this like quickly, Like you have to be able to

1:36:43.880 --> 1:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>have some time to sit down and record this. But uh,

1:36:47.160 --> 1:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know again, if you are at risk of losing

1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>your voice due to some sort of illness like als,

1:36:52.720 --> 1:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>that is something that is an option. Now all right, finally,

1:36:55.840 --> 1:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this PlayStation controller. This is a new

1:36:58.960 --> 1:37:02.559
<v Speaker 1>accessible controlller for PlayStation five. It looks like you wrote

1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:04.280
<v Speaker 1>about this for Forbes, right.

1:37:07.439 --> 1:37:11.240
<v Speaker 13>I did. I brod buttered a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So what.

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<v Speaker 13>This is is is it's a specially designed roller for

1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:33.400
<v Speaker 13>people who for some reason can't use the stock roller

1:37:33.439 --> 1:37:39.360
<v Speaker 13>that comes with the system. So what it is is

1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:43.800
<v Speaker 13>it's you've got its own shape and everything, and you

1:37:43.800 --> 1:37:50.400
<v Speaker 13>can like swap out the different buttons and the sticks

1:37:50.439 --> 1:37:54.000
<v Speaker 13>on the controller, and there's a whole lot you can

1:37:54.040 --> 1:38:00.000
<v Speaker 13>do in software to sort of uh break your own

1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:05.439
<v Speaker 13>like super controlled the Blue as it were, because you

1:38:05.479 --> 1:38:09.080
<v Speaker 13>can like hailor it to your you know how you

1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:10.840
<v Speaker 13>have to have.

1:38:10.920 --> 1:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It so your abilities. It's configurable in a lot of

1:38:15.880 --> 1:38:19.679
<v Speaker 1>different ways. And also, you know, the main point here

1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>is that one size does not fit all when it

1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>comes to controllers, Like if you have varying abilities or

1:38:25.840 --> 1:38:29.559
<v Speaker 1>a disability, you know, you can program this and and

1:38:29.640 --> 1:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of orient it in the way that you need.

1:38:33.200 --> 1:38:35.240
<v Speaker 1>So there's a whole bunch of stuff that you can do,

1:38:35.960 --> 1:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's just a really great way to open up

1:38:38.760 --> 1:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>gaming to a wider audience.

1:38:40.240 --> 1:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you think this is going to be a good thing?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, you know, uh greaming technology switchy is really important

1:38:51.360 --> 1:38:55.160
<v Speaker 14>and it says a whole lot that these huge com.

1:38:56.320 --> 1:38:57.160
<v Speaker 8>For these.

1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:04.439
<v Speaker 13>Like Sony have you know, had time and effort to

1:39:04.520 --> 1:39:07.280
<v Speaker 13>do this because uh, you know, as you were saying,

1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:13.400
<v Speaker 13>it really fixed their games you know, accessible to to

1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:17.879
<v Speaker 13>a to a audience.

1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this is available for the PlayStation five. I've

1:39:21.120 --> 1:39:24.840
<v Speaker 1>also been at Microsoft events. They have a lot of

1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:28.599
<v Speaker 1>accessible kind of like, they have a lot of pushes

1:39:28.600 --> 1:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>into this accessibility idea, and so does Apple, and so

1:39:32.040 --> 1:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>does Google. So it really is amazing what these tech

1:39:35.040 --> 1:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>companies have done for bringing technology to more people and

1:39:38.840 --> 1:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>allowing more people to do things in the way that

1:39:40.800 --> 1:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>works for them. Steven Akino, thanks so much for joining

1:39:43.920 --> 1:39:46.479
<v Speaker 1>me today. I really appreciate it.

1:39:46.640 --> 1:39:47.400
<v Speaker 12>Great Rich.

1:39:49.439 --> 1:39:51.320
<v Speaker 13>You for having me, sir.

1:39:51.680 --> 1:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, find them online Steven Akino on Forbes. You

1:39:55.840 --> 1:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>can find them also on x and read uh and

1:39:58.720 --> 1:40:04.240
<v Speaker 1>keep up on all of the accessibility and diversity options

1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that are out there with technology.

1:40:06.280 --> 1:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks for joining me today. Let's uh, Oh,

1:40:08.960 --> 1:40:09.760
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go to break.

1:40:09.800 --> 1:40:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll go to break and we'll come back and

1:40:11.479 --> 1:40:14.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll do the feedback segment. Oh my gosh, that means

1:40:14.320 --> 1:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it's almost the end of the show. Get those emails

1:40:17.280 --> 1:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>in rich on tech dot TV, hit contact if you

1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>want yours right on the air. Welcome back to rich

1:40:27.880 --> 1:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>On Tech time for the Oh well, we're gonna get

1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:35.519
<v Speaker 1>to feedbag. And yes, I decided I think it is

1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a feedback segment. Because this is what I've decided. It's feedback,

1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's also mail bag. So the feedback plus the

1:40:46.640 --> 1:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>mail bag is feedbag. All right, let's get through a

1:40:52.080 --> 1:40:53.919
<v Speaker 1>couple of stories before we get to the feedbag.

1:40:54.600 --> 1:40:55.439
<v Speaker 2>YouTube Premium.

1:40:55.479 --> 1:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>If you're paying for YouTube premium and you were grandfathered in,

1:40:58.920 --> 1:41:01.400
<v Speaker 1>well your price is going up in January. So if

1:41:01.439 --> 1:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you're paying seven ninety nine a month or nine to

1:41:04.400 --> 1:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine a month, those are both grandfathered in, you

1:41:07.000 --> 1:41:10.479
<v Speaker 1>will be paying thirteen ninety nine a month, effective on

1:41:10.920 --> 1:41:14.720
<v Speaker 1>in January twenty twenty four, so next month. So it

1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was delayed. This was announced back in July, so don't

1:41:17.200 --> 1:41:19.439
<v Speaker 1>get mad at me. This was something that was announced

1:41:19.439 --> 1:41:22.559
<v Speaker 1>for many months now. But you were grandfathered in, which

1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:24.439
<v Speaker 1>is pretty rare these days. Most of the time when

1:41:24.439 --> 1:41:27.479
<v Speaker 1>these companies are announcing price hikes, it's like effective with

1:41:27.520 --> 1:41:29.439
<v Speaker 1>your next billing cycle. So the fact that you got

1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>six months, you know you should be thanking me.

1:41:32.680 --> 1:41:34.360
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not me that's doing it.

1:41:35.439 --> 1:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Threads has added hashtags, but they don't call them hashtags,

1:41:40.040 --> 1:41:43.599
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have the pound sign or the hashtag

1:41:43.680 --> 1:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>sign whatever you however you look at it, So they

1:41:47.160 --> 1:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>call hashtags tags. They're clickable blue links, not the traditional

1:41:51.960 --> 1:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>hashtag symbol. You can add one tag per post. The

1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>feature was rolled out and it's kind of confusing because

1:42:00.080 --> 1:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>why did they change a good thing.

1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:03.240
<v Speaker 2>We all know what hashtags are.

1:42:03.400 --> 1:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Every single online website uses hashtags, but not threads.

1:42:07.960 --> 1:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>They use tags. I don't like it.

1:42:11.040 --> 1:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Apple Podcasts arrives on Tesla next week. If you have

1:42:14.800 --> 1:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a Tesla, you're gonna get a holiday software update and

1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you will have Apple Podcasts, which is kind of nice.

1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>They added Apple Music last year. It does not work

1:42:24.920 --> 1:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>very well. I will tell you that hopefully this will

1:42:27.960 --> 1:42:31.720
<v Speaker 1>be better. Apple music is very, very slow and just

1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>not very good at least in my experience in the Tesla.

1:42:36.800 --> 1:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>But Apple Podcasts it'll be nice to have. So you

1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>can listen to the show Rich on Tech. Search it

1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>up and if you'd like to listen to the podcast,

1:42:42.760 --> 1:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you can do it in your Tesla. As of next week,

1:42:45.680 --> 1:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>if you have a pixel phone, two things one thing

1:42:49.320 --> 1:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to do. There is a new feature where it will

1:42:52.160 --> 1:42:56.599
<v Speaker 1>send critical data to first responders. You can share medical

1:42:56.600 --> 1:42:58.760
<v Speaker 1>info and emergency contacts with nine one one.

1:42:58.800 --> 1:42:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:02.559
<v Speaker 1>This is on the pixel phone in the personal safety

1:43:02.600 --> 1:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>app Pixel has or I guess they've somehow. There's a

1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>partnership with this rapid SOS company which sends medical info

1:43:10.200 --> 1:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to the first responders. But it's been available on iPhone forever.

1:43:13.880 --> 1:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I did a story with this years ago, but now

1:43:16.120 --> 1:43:19.519
<v Speaker 1>it's finally coming to Android, starting with the Personal Safety

1:43:19.560 --> 1:43:22.479
<v Speaker 1>App on Pixel. So if you go to open up

1:43:22.520 --> 1:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the Personal Safety app, your info emergency info access share

1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>during emergency.

1:43:27.640 --> 1:43:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Call, turn that on.

1:43:30.040 --> 1:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>That way, if you ever have to die on nine

1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:35.639
<v Speaker 1>one one, it'll send more information. And Jimmy Stewart has

1:43:35.680 --> 1:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a new bedtime story inside the call map. How is

1:43:39.200 --> 1:43:39.919
<v Speaker 1>that possible?

1:43:39.960 --> 1:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>You ask?

1:43:41.360 --> 1:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>It's AI generated. They took Jimmy Stewart's voice, they recreated it,

1:43:45.880 --> 1:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and now he's reading. It's a wonderful sleep story. It's

1:43:49.160 --> 1:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a story about love, lost, hope and joy. Sounds like

1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>my life.

1:43:54.200 --> 1:43:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Most of it.

1:43:57.520 --> 1:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Stuart's family was okay with this. The AI voi was

1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>created by a company called Respeecher. It's pretty good. I

1:44:04.680 --> 1:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>listened to the little clip they put online and I

1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:10.679
<v Speaker 1>got goosebumps because Jimmy Stewart is no longer with us,

1:44:11.160 --> 1:44:13.559
<v Speaker 1>yet somehow he is now reading a new story.

1:44:13.600 --> 1:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>It's quite incredible.

1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I know it's controversial because people, you know, some people

1:44:18.320 --> 1:44:22.320
<v Speaker 1>say you're exploiting these actors that have passed away. But

1:44:23.040 --> 1:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>if their a state is okay with it, I guess

1:44:25.120 --> 1:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. But anyway, you have to be a calm

1:44:27.120 --> 1:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>subscriber to hear the whole thing. All right, let's get

1:44:29.880 --> 1:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to feedback. Bert says, please quit saying everyone hates X. Clearly,

1:44:34.120 --> 1:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're getting a lot of interaction, everyone doesn't hate it.

1:44:37.000 --> 1:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>The beautiful thing is that you can get on X

1:44:39.000 --> 1:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and say everyone hates X, and that's fine because free

1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:44.839
<v Speaker 1>speech is alive and well on that platform. Thanks to Elon,

1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the guy responsible for the car you love. Great show,

1:44:50.360 --> 1:44:51.479
<v Speaker 1>minus the fake news.

1:44:51.600 --> 1:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Bert. Thanks Bert, there's no fake news on this show.

1:44:56.560 --> 1:44:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Gary says, Hey, Rick, Rick, I love when people call

1:44:59.800 --> 1:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>me because I've never called myself Rick, but so many

1:45:02.040 --> 1:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>people call me Rick.

1:45:02.960 --> 1:45:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I like the radio show you do, Leo proud.

1:45:05.360 --> 1:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I purchased a one plus phone on Amazon and it's

1:45:08.400 --> 1:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>locked to T Mobile. Is there a legal way to

1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>remove the carrier lock? I'll be returning this. If there's

1:45:13.080 --> 1:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>not an easy way to remove this, Gary, go to

1:45:16.439 --> 1:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the unlocker dot com. The unlocker with Noe dot Com

1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and he specializes in all things unlocking phones. Yes, you

1:45:26.400 --> 1:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>can unlock a phone. Just keep in mind it may

1:45:29.000 --> 1:45:31.720
<v Speaker 1>not work on every network, so it'll probably work on

1:45:32.280 --> 1:45:34.439
<v Speaker 1>T Mobile AT and T. It may not work on

1:45:34.560 --> 1:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Verizon if you unlock it. You just have to be

1:45:36.160 --> 1:45:39.599
<v Speaker 1>careful with that. Bruce says, I want to recommend fuel

1:45:39.680 --> 1:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Rod rechargeable. I'm biased as I'm a maintenance tech that

1:45:43.080 --> 1:45:46.519
<v Speaker 1>services the kiosks here in San Diego. No complaints, Charge

1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:48.479
<v Speaker 1>it at home, or swap it for a used rod

1:45:48.520 --> 1:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>for a fully charged one for one buck. Love your show,

1:45:51.439 --> 1:45:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Bruce and San Diego.

1:45:53.080 --> 1:45:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Bruce.

1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's a couple of these companies around with kiosks

1:45:56.200 --> 1:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that lets you get one of these portable batteries. It's

1:45:59.200 --> 1:46:01.439
<v Speaker 1>very nice when you see them because you feel like

1:46:01.479 --> 1:46:03.599
<v Speaker 1>you can use your phone and if worse comes to worse,

1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you go to the vending machine, you pop out one

1:46:05.720 --> 1:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of these portable batteries you can charge your phone. The

1:46:08.680 --> 1:46:10.280
<v Speaker 1>main thing is most of them you do have to

1:46:10.320 --> 1:46:12.720
<v Speaker 1>return at some point. But I've seen them all over

1:46:12.760 --> 1:46:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the place. I've seen fuel Rod for sure. I did

1:46:15.200 --> 1:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a story with another company that plays these things and

1:46:17.680 --> 1:46:22.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a big business. Pine says constructive criticism from a fan.

1:46:23.320 --> 1:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>As I start this week this Monday, your segment comes on,

1:46:26.280 --> 1:46:28.599
<v Speaker 1>I put down my coffee because I'm a fan. I'm

1:46:28.600 --> 1:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>only disappointed by you showing the same report you did

1:46:31.160 --> 1:46:34.439
<v Speaker 1>on your Saturday radio show. It's happened many times. I

1:46:34.439 --> 1:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're lazy or they don't pay you enough,

1:46:36.880 --> 1:46:39.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's annoying. I don't want to troll because I'm

1:46:39.280 --> 1:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a fan. Can you fix this or at least tell

1:46:41.080 --> 1:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>me to avoid watching both shows? Okay, I think you're

1:46:44.200 --> 1:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>referring to the fact that I overlap. Like on the radio,

1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I will do an interview with someone that I then

1:46:49.720 --> 1:46:50.559
<v Speaker 1>show on TV.

1:46:51.000 --> 1:46:53.040
<v Speaker 2>These are two different mediums. Radio.

1:46:53.360 --> 1:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>If you notice, the interviews are much longer, so you're

1:46:55.920 --> 1:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>getting kind of a deeper dive. TV the stories are

1:46:58.840 --> 1:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>two minutes, so I think it's called synergy.

1:47:03.040 --> 1:47:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Like today we had the electric boat.

1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:07.559
<v Speaker 1>If you like the electric boat that you heard about

1:47:07.720 --> 1:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on this week on TV, you're going to see that

1:47:09.960 --> 1:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>electric boat segment. It's not laziness. And no nobody ever

1:47:14.000 --> 1:47:17.519
<v Speaker 1>pays anyone enough, do they. No, people always want more,

1:47:18.200 --> 1:47:21.599
<v Speaker 1>So it's not about laziness. It's just I think it's

1:47:21.600 --> 1:47:23.439
<v Speaker 1>great that you can hear the story on the radio

1:47:23.479 --> 1:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and learn more. Oh David has a reply to this.

1:47:26.920 --> 1:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm older and not very tech savvy, but willing to learn.

1:47:29.920 --> 1:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I find you interesting and informative. I listen on Fox

1:47:32.760 --> 1:47:36.559
<v Speaker 1>fifty nine in Indianapolis. So David David likes the reports

1:47:36.600 --> 1:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>on TV. Let's see what else do we have here?

1:47:40.960 --> 1:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>So many things? Oh my god, these just keep going

1:47:45.040 --> 1:47:49.760
<v Speaker 1>on and on and on. Okay, uh, let's see. Hi, Rich,

1:47:49.800 --> 1:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I love your show and podcasts. I want to make

1:47:51.400 --> 1:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a custom wall calendar for my hiking club, but I

1:47:53.880 --> 1:47:55.599
<v Speaker 1>want members of the club to be able to order

1:47:55.640 --> 1:47:58.160
<v Speaker 1>their own copies. There are many companies that will let

1:47:58.200 --> 1:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>me make a calendar, but the problem is to order it.

1:48:02.600 --> 1:48:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Everyone needs to use my account.

1:48:04.160 --> 1:48:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give away my account number and

1:48:05.840 --> 1:48:08.439
<v Speaker 1>password so they can order the calendar that I create.

1:48:09.040 --> 1:48:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Is there a company that allows me to share my

1:48:10.840 --> 1:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>work so my company my friends can print the calendar, Dan, Dan,

1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that Canva will handle this situation. So Canva

1:48:19.920 --> 1:48:23.679
<v Speaker 1>dot com. You create your calendar on Canva. You share

1:48:23.720 --> 1:48:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the link to that calendar with the people who want

1:48:26.280 --> 1:48:29.240
<v Speaker 1>to order it. They can then sign in, they can

1:48:29.280 --> 1:48:31.040
<v Speaker 1>do whatever tweaks they want. They want to add their

1:48:31.080 --> 1:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>birthdays to the calendar, and then they can print it

1:48:33.040 --> 1:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>out using their account and their phone number. So that's

1:48:36.080 --> 1:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>what I would recommend. Canva dot com is incredible. The

1:48:40.640 --> 1:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>problem is with Canva, a lot of it you might

1:48:43.160 --> 1:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>have to pay for, like the design you want. It's

1:48:45.960 --> 1:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like it's a free it's a freemium kind of account thing.

1:48:50.680 --> 1:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So just know that if you use things that cost

1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>money inside there, like the things with Little Star, people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to pay to print that out.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, if you can believe it, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>For this episode of the show, you can find links

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<v Speaker 1>to everything I mentioned on my website. Just go to

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<v Speaker 1>rich on tech dot tv for the show notes. You

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<v Speaker 1>can also go to rich on tech dot tv slash

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<v Speaker 1>wiki to see all of the show notes from over

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<v Speaker 1>the last year. You can find me on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I am at rich on tech. Next week some great guests.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk eBay with the person who has sold

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<v Speaker 1>two million books about eBay, so we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>eBay tips and tricks. Plus a really cool website guy

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<v Speaker 1>runs a website with all kinds of spy accessories, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's really fun. Thanks so much for listening. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many ways you can spend your time. I do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who makes this show possible. Bill, Bobo, Kim. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Richdmiro. I will talk to you real soon