1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: A new app brings I message to Android, but now 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: it's a game of cat and mouse with Apple. The 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: way a push notification can be used to spy on you. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: How to bring Ai Santa to your backyard, plus your 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: tech questions answered. What's going on. I'm Rich Demiro and 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: this is Rich on Tech broadcasting live from Los Angeles, 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: coast to coast. This is the show where I talk 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: It's also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: I believe that tech should be interesting, useful, and fun. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one oh one. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: zero one. 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 2: Give me a call. 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: If you have a question about technology. Email also open. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Just go to richon tech dot TV hit contact. We've 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: got a great show this week. We've got guests in voting. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: Eric Mitchagovski, the co founder of Beeper. He's going to 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: talk about Beeper Mini. This is the app that brought 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: my message to Android for a hot minute this week, 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: and it is currently shut down by Apple apparently, and 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: maybe back up and running by the time you listen 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: to this. 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Who knows. 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: If you're not listening live Mitch Lee, one of the 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: founders of ARC. This is a startup building all electric 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: performance speed boats. I had the chance to go out 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: on one of their basically Tesla's of the Sea and 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: it is wild. So we'll talk to Mitch about electrifying 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: the boating industry. And we've got Steven Akino, a freelance 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: tech journalist covering accessibility and assistive technologies. He's going to 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: talk about Microsoft's Seeing Ai app, which is now on Android, 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Apple's personal voice feature, and PlayStation's new accessible controller. 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're having a great week. 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Last week after the show, I went to dinner and 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: a little wild story. So we're at dinner and basically 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking a picture outside as I typically do my wife, 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: my kid, me taking a selfie outside this restaurant and 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: someone comes up and they say, hey, do you want 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: me to take your picture for you? As I always 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: say sure, go ahead, and so they take my phone. 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: They stand out in the street and they say, Hey, 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be wild if I just are you worried 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: that I might just take your phone right now? And 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh what? And I kind of like 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: thought about this and I was like, oh my gosh, 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: Like I just handed over my unlocked phone to some 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: stranger and. 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: I kept it cool. 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I played it cool and was like, no, it's fine, 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: you could take it, and you know, just clearly the 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: guy didn't look like he was going to take my phone, 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: but I think he was just playing with me. But 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: it really resonated with me, and it kind of struck 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: a nerve because I realized that we give our phones 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: to people all the time to take pictures, and most 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: of the time it's kind of like unprompted, Like people 58 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: will come up to us and say, hey, you know, 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: can I take your picture, and we just take our 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: unlocked phone and kind of hand it to them. This 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: happens at you know, theme parks in the street in 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: foreign countries, and it just made me realize that, like, 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: that's kind of scary, Like what could someone do when 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: they have your phone. Well, they can look at your 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: personal information, your contacts, your emails, your messages, your photos. 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: They might try to access your banking apps. Now, a 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: lot of these apps do require another level of authorization, 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: like a pin code or your face ID, so that 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: does make a little bit more sense, but some of 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: them do not so if you can inside your financial 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: apps PayPal, Venmo, make sure that you have the secondary 72 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: authentication on inside those apps. 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: Social media. 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Imagine someone just takes my phone and they post start 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: posting stuff on social media on my behalf. 76 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: That would not be good. 77 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of followers on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. 78 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: I would not want them to do that. 79 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: They could immediately try to change your passwords and lock 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: you out of your phone. Wall Street Journal did a 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: story about how if a thief basically has your passcode, 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: they are able to reset your entire iCloud account and 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: lock you out. That's pretty scary, but that does require 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: your pass code. But think about it. We put our 85 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: pass code in all the time. Maybe you just typed 86 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: it in. They say, can I see your phone? And 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: now you've got your passcode and your phone, they might 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: try to install malware spyware. 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: Of course. 90 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: The first thing they might do is go into your 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: settings and turn off the auto lock. Set it to 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: never so that your phone doesn't lock. Because think about it, 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: the good news is most of our phones are gonna 94 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: lock after a couple of minutes, right, so at the 95 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: worst comes to worse If they don't keep that screen 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: on your phone is gonna lock. But I tell you 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: all this because I'm not saying don't trust anyone, but 98 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that our phone is our 99 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: life and just to hand it over to some stranger 100 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: is kind of weird that we do that. So I 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: guess my bigger point is if you can member to 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: do this, If you're going to hand your phone to 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: a stranger to take your picture, make sure your phone 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: is locked, right so there is a way to access 105 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: the camera on most iPhones and Androids with the screen locked, 106 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: and on iPhone it's a little tricky because as soon 107 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: as you look at your phone, it's gonna unlock. So 108 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: what you have to do is you have to make 109 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: sure your phone is locked, angle it away from you, 110 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: light up the screen, and then swipe over to access 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: the camera or tap the camera short cut, all while 112 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: aiming the screen away from you so that face ID 113 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: does not identify you. On Android, it's a little bit 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: easier because you can double click the power button on 115 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: the right side on most Android phones and that will 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: bring you to the camera without unlocking the phone. 117 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: So it's a little food for thought. 118 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: I posted it to my ex at Rich on Tech 119 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of people were kind of chiming in 120 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: talked about it on TV, and again, it's one of 121 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: those things. I don't think people are bad. I think 122 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: most people are actually good, but you can never be 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: too safe, especially when someone offers to do this for you. 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: What else this week, Oh, we got to talk about 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: this whole I Message on Android thing. I'm going to 126 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: talk about that in a little bit because I've got 127 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: an interview with the guy who created the app Beeper Mini, 128 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: which brings I Message to Android. We tape the interview 129 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: and I said, can we please do this interview live? 130 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: And he just wasn't available to do it live, so 131 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: we taped it and I said, I hope things don't 132 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: change before the show airs, And of course things have 133 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: changed because the app was available and next thing, you know, 134 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: Apple somehow shut it down, so it's not available as 135 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: I speak right now, but they are working on it 136 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: and it may be back available. But I thought the 137 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: interview was still interesting because you can hear what his 138 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: standpoint is on this entire situation, like why he thinks 139 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: that Android users should get access to blue bubbles on 140 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: the iPhone. Right before I came in to do the show. 141 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: I got a phone call from a family member that 142 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: was attempting to watch a sports game. And when you 143 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: don't have cable, it is really tough to watch sports. 144 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: And that is part of a strategy by the cable 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: companies and the sports and all this good stuff to 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: get you to spend money. 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: And I get it. Sports are very expensive. 148 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: It's not cheap to have that broadcast live from various 149 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: places across the US every weekend, day in, day out, 150 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of money riding on sports and 151 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: that has been kind of the one major holdout when 152 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: people cut the cord. Right So for me, I cut 153 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: the cord a long time ago. I can get almost 154 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: anything I want to watch over the air on antenna 155 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: or by streaming, or by some of these free apps 156 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: just cobbling things together. But when it comes to sports, 157 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: it's really tough because typically games are on one place, 158 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: one channel, and you have to subscribe to get that. 159 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Now Amazon has been doing something really cool and it's 160 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of neat where they do with Thursday night Football game, 161 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: and it is available to all Prime members across any 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: device that you can watch Prime on, whether it's a 163 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: cell phone or a Roku or an Apple TV. Apple 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of did the same thing with their MLS. They 165 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: bought the Major League Soccer and they made it available 166 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: across any device using the Apple TV app. And so 167 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: that was interesting because it was kind of the first 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: time that there were no blackouts. You could watch the 169 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: game no matter where you were on the device you wanted. 170 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: But so I'm explaining to this family member about YouTube 171 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: TV and they say, I can't believe YouTube TV is 172 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: seventy three dollars a month. I said, yeah, let's basically 173 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: cable except through the internet. And they said, wait, what 174 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: what does that mean. I said, well, you get this 175 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: through the internet. And they said, well, how do I 176 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: sign up? I said, okay, you go to YouTube TV. 177 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: On the internet. Oh, on the internet, not on my phone. 178 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, you can go on your phone, but 179 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: it's probably easier from a desktop. Oh, okay, you sign 180 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: it with your Google account and now you sign up 181 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: and you pay the money and they will charge you 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: and now you have access to these channels. 183 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: Well how do I get it on the TV? 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: I said, well, you download the YouTube TV app and 185 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: then you sign in on the app on your screen. Wait, 186 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: what how do I do that it's very complicated. And 187 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: as I'm explaining all of this to my family member, 188 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I realized just how wildly complicated this stuff sounds to 189 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: someone that doesn't really understand. And this was the best 190 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: two questions I got from the family member. They said, well, 191 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: hold on, how am I going to get TV delivered 192 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: to my TV without a cable? And I said, well, 193 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: it comes through the internet. It doesn't come through a 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: cable anymore. But you also, he said, but I also 195 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: have to have internet though, right, I said, yes, you 196 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: have to continue paying for the Internet to get this 197 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: TV delivered over the Internet. 198 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: And then this was the kicker on the whole thing. 199 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: He goes, well, hold on, I already subscribed to YouTube 200 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: TV once and I went to my YouTube and I 201 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: still had ads, so I don't get it. And I said, well, 202 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: YouTube TV does not get rid of ads on YouTube, 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: which does not make any sense whatsoever. I remember a 204 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I was sitting in the audience 205 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: at YouTube headquarters here in Los Angeles where they do 206 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: all the YouTube TV stuff, and they were announcing YouTube 207 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: TV and back then, by the way, it was thirty 208 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: five dollars, and they took us in a room and 209 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: they had a Q and A. And after I listened 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: to all of this information about YouTube TV, I said, 211 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: hold on, stupid question. I said, is YouTube ad free 212 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: included in YouTube TV? And they said, oh no, that's 213 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: still a separate charge. So if you want YouTube TV 214 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: and YouTube without ads, YouTube without ads is something like, 215 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, ten fifteen bucks a month, and then YouTube 216 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: TV is another seventy three dollars a month. You're talking 217 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: almost one hundred dollars a month for just one service. 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Now that may be cheaper than what you're paying for 219 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: cable and some aspects. But my point is this stuff 220 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: is complicated, and it made me realize to say, the 221 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: emails I get, the questions I get. I take for 222 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: granted that I am in the thick of this stuff 223 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: every day and it makes so much sense to me. 224 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: But I understand your woes. So give me a call 225 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: if you have a question about technology. It's triple eight 226 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to 227 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: two four one zero one. There is no such thing 228 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: as a stupid tech question. My name is rich Demiro. 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: Give me a call. 230 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 231 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: out with you, talking Technology at triple eight rich one 232 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven. 233 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: Four to two four to one zero one. 234 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: Getting a lot of messages recently about Amazon getting hacked. 235 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people are posting on social 236 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: media that if you look inside your Amazon account, there 237 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: are a bunch of Amazon lockers that have been added 238 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: to your address book, and so people are saying, you 239 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: got hacked, your account was accessed by a hacker. They 240 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: added these lockers to your account so that they can 241 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: deliver stuff from your account to these lockers and pick 242 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: it up without you ever knowing. And it turns out 243 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: that's not really true. So I did look in my 244 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: account and sure enough, there were a couple of Amazon 245 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: lockers that were added, and I kind of thought that Amazon. 246 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: Put these in there. 247 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: It's because they've been really pushing me to pick up 248 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: my stuff instead of delivering it to me. And I said, no, no, no, 249 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: that's not how the situation works. Like you were started 250 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: as a company to deliver stuff to my house. I 251 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: don't want to go out and pick up stuff. That's 252 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: why you're delivering. 253 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 254 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: Every time I place an order right now, Amazon sends 255 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: me a notification that says Hey, we're delivering this order 256 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: to you, but would you like to pick it up 257 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: at a locker? And I say no, I don't want 258 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: to pick it up, and I just ignore the text. 259 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: But there are accounts that do have these lockers in them, 260 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and it's making the rounds on social media. And as 261 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: soon as I get a whole bunch of messages about this, 262 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: I have to do some research. And my research brought 263 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: me to Snopes and so apparently this is not Amazon 264 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: did not get hacked, but it did happen, and according 265 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: to Amazon, there is let's see a small number of 266 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: customer accounts that got lockers added in error. We are 267 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: working to fix the issue. That's what they told Snopes. 268 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Now I don't really believe that. I think that Amazon 269 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: did add lockers to a lot of people's accounts. And 270 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: you can go into your Amazon account and check. There 271 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: is no harm that these lockers are in there. It's 272 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: not the default shipping, it's not your stuff is not 273 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: being sent to these lockers automatically. Hackers are not ordering 274 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: stuff to these lockers. So your account remains secure as 275 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: long as you have a strong password, two factor authentication. 276 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: Turn it on for your Amazon account. Don't click the 277 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: links in your email that say. 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: Hey, we have an Amazon order for you. 279 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: We need you to confirm everything from your Social Security 280 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: number to your data birth. 281 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: Don't do it. It is not ah. 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's go to uh, let's go. Let's take 283 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: a call. Let's go to Ian in Durango, Colorado. Ian 284 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich? 285 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: Hey, Rich, I just wanted to put my two cents 286 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: on the whole internet cable thing. 287 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: Sure. 288 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, if if you want to, you know, make things happen. 289 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: If you're just a casual you know, consumer of media 290 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: or whatever, if you want to do it on a budget, 291 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: my recommend dation is, you know, just pay for your internet, 292 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: you know, don't buy any fancy subscriptions unless you know 293 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: you got a friend or something that's let you. 294 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: Borrow theirs or which to do. 295 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, well yeah, exactly if you do. 296 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: But I recommend Internet archive dot org. I believe it's 297 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: dot org. I gotta I have to Google again. But 298 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: Internet archives is a fantastic. 299 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: Website to use. 300 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: If there's just some movie you want to watch, some 301 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: show you want to watch, some music you want to 302 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: listen to. There's just a lot of stuff on there. 303 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: That they just archive and they have it off on free, 304 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, commercial free. You know, for like during the 305 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: Halloween season, I could watch every Friday the thirteenth free 306 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: of charge. Really, it's all it's just a historical like 307 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: project and so they just archive film, movies, websites. 308 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: It's just a fantastic wow. 309 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, it's said. 310 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm familiar with Internet Archive because they do 311 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: the wayback machine. So if you want to see like 312 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: an old version of a website, you can pop in 313 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: the URL and it will show you like what Yahoo looked. 314 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Like in nineteen ninety seven or something. 315 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: But this is saying they've got thirty nine million books, 316 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: eleven million films, fifteen million pieces of music, two point 317 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: six something of TV software, photos, audio. I mean, yeah, 318 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I didn't realize they have all this stuff on here. 319 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: So that's a great way to, uh to find stuff, 320 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: especially if. 321 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: It's like something older and you're looking you're looking for 322 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: an older black and white film or something and you 323 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: don't want to pay the five bucks to get it 324 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: on a streaming service. You know, google it. 325 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 6: There you go. 326 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: They most likely have it, all right, and thank you, good, good, 327 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: good free resource and since it's news to me, I'm 328 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: guessing it's news to others. I know the website. I 329 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: didn't realize they have all this stuff. The website is 330 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: archive dot org, Archive dot org. A lot of stuff there. 331 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: Wow. Good good, Uh good call. 332 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: If you use Gmail, their AI spam detection is getting 333 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: a major upgrade. 334 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember these emails. 335 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: We were getting them for a while, but they would 336 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: be emails that would just be like an image or 337 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: some kind of like, you know, you want a gift 338 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: card or something, and so it was really tough for 339 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Gmail filters to find these things and figure them out. 340 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: They're called adversarial text manipulations. These are emails that are 341 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: full of special characters and emojis. Well, now Gmail has 342 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: a new AI system called retvec and they say it's 343 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: a thirty eight percent improvement in spam detection, and so 344 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Google says this is their largest defense upgrade in recent years, 345 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: and apparently it's open source, so they're going to use 346 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: it in other applications. Other email systems can use this. 347 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: But the upgrade makes it much harder for spammers to 348 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: trick Gmail, and the system is apparently very efficient, so 349 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: it can kind of look for things instead of just 350 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: scanning the email for like words like, uh, you know, promotion, 351 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: gift card, free, whatever. Now it's actually looking at the 352 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: email like a human would look at it and say, oh, 353 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: this is total garbage, and it will send it to spam. 354 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: So less of those things are gonna get through. That's 355 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: a good thing, all right. 356 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: Coming up, I'm gonna tell you about this whole Beeper 357 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Mini controversy, the app that tried to get I message 358 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: to Android. We're going to talk to the co founder 359 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: of Beeper coming up next. You are listening to rich 360 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: on Tech eighty to eight rich one oh one. Welcome 361 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out 362 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: with you talking technology at triple eight rich one O one. 363 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 364 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: zero one. Give me a call if you have a 365 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: question about technology. The website rich on Tech dot TV. 366 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: So we got an app this week called Beeper Mini. 367 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: This app brings blue bubbles to Android and it was 368 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: working really well for just about twenty four hours and 369 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: then everyone said, oh, Apple's going to shut this down, 370 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: and sure enough, without saying a word. By the way, 371 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Apple somehow tweaked their system and took this down. So 372 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people that were testing it, like myself, 373 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: some people actually installed it and started using it and 374 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: were very excited it all came down. So Beeper says 375 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: they are working to get this up and running again, 376 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: but we don't know if they will be able to 377 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: do that. But I do have an interview that I 378 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: conducted with Eric Midchiakowski. 379 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: This is the co founder of Beeper. 380 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: I still think it's relevant because he explains why he's 381 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: doing this and why they want to bring I Message 382 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: to Android. So let's hear from Eric. 383 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 7: So I've been working in startups for a while. I 384 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 7: started a company called Pebble back in the day, we 385 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 7: made smart watches, and ever since then, I've kind of 386 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 7: looked down at my phone and seen that I have 387 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 7: this folder full of chat apps. You know, I have Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp. 388 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 7: I all kind of do the same thing, but I 389 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 7: have a different section of my contact list on each one, 390 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: so I have to keep them all installed. And a 391 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 7: couple of years ago, I said, I just want to 392 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 7: have one app that I can use to chat with 393 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 7: anyone on any chat never. I don't want to have 394 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 7: to remember you know who's on WhatsApp and who's on 395 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 7: I Message, and it's just a hassle. So I started 396 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 7: building an app called Beeper. Beeper lets you chat with 397 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 7: anyone on any chat, all from one single app on 398 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: your phone or your computer. 399 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: And I noticed that when I DMed you via Twitter, 400 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: I got an immediate response, which is quite rare. And 401 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's because it routed through your Beeper. 402 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: That's it. 403 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I spend a lot of time chatting, and all 404 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 7: of my chat apps go to the same inbox, so 405 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 7: I just have one place to check. 406 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: And I noticed this personally. 407 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: I was testing Beeper and I linked up a bunch 408 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: of my accounts Instagram, LinkedIn and several others, and for 409 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: the first time ever, I had someone text me and 410 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I did even realize that it was coming through LinkedIn, 411 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: and I responded back and forth immediately, and then I 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: realized later on, I said, oh, wow, that came in 413 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: through LinkedIn. I never respond to LinkedIn messages typically because 414 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: I just don't think to check them, and here it is. 415 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: It just kind of opened up that entire way of responding. 416 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 7: But that's what we started working on a couple of 417 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 7: years ago. But one of the problems that we ran 418 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 7: into is well, I mean, to be completely honest, I'll 419 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 7: just put it out there. I'm an Android user. I'm 420 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 7: a proud Android user, and I've been one for twelve 421 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 7: years now. I have never been able to chat with 422 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 7: people on iPhones in the same way that iPhone users 423 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 7: can chat. I know that when people add me to 424 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 7: group chats, my ANDROIDNSS causes the whole group chat to 425 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 7: turn into a green bubble, and that, you know, I 426 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 7: hate to say it is a bit of a turn off. 427 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: Right. 428 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 7: iPhone users are used to blue bubbles, and they expect them, 429 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 7: and so when there's a green bubble in the midst 430 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 7: it's a little bit weird. We wanted to solve that. 431 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 7: Chat is about bringing people together, it's about you know, 432 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 7: connecting people, it's about you know, just just hanging out 433 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 7: and chatting, and we didn't want this thing to come 434 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 7: in the way of that. So we set out to 435 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 7: build the first app for Android that lets you send 436 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 7: and receive blue bubble messages to iPhones. It's literally as 437 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 7: easy as going to the play Store, searching for Deeper 438 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 7: Mini and downloading the app on your Android phone. As 439 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 7: soon as you download it, you press a couple buttons 440 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 7: and you can start chatting with all of your iPhone 441 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 7: friends with a blue bubble. That means that you can 442 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 7: send full resolution images, videos, no more staticky you know, 443 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 7: small videos anymore. You can send emoji reactions, you can 444 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 7: participate in threads. All of your chats are now encrypted 445 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 7: so no one else can read them. And best of all, 446 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 7: your iPhone friends, when they type in your phone number, 447 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 7: you'll show up as a blue bubble, and you're probably 448 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 7: going to be more likely to be added to group chats. 449 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 7: I certainly have found that. 450 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: Okay, So, Eric, I'm imagining that you did not go 451 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: to WWDC Apple's developer conference and get the blessing of 452 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: Apple to do this. So how did you make this 453 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: possible for these Android users? 454 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 7: Actually a pretty interesting story. So up until deeper many 455 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 7: the only devices that could send blue bubble messages were 456 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: iPhones and Max. But over the summer, a sixteen year 457 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 7: old security reacher researcher actually uncovered the secret to how 458 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 7: I message works, and he wrote up a blog post 459 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 7: and created a kind of open source project that describes it. 460 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 7: We found it. Actually he contacted us, and well, I 461 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 7: mean we hired him as this sixteen year old kid 462 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 7: to work with us to help us crack the code 463 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 7: and figure out how to get this to work on 464 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 7: Android phones. So over the last few months we've been 465 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: working furiously on that, and just this week we announced 466 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: the app for the first time. 467 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: Is there any sort of security issue here? 468 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: Is there any sort of worrisome aspect of this other 469 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: than the fact that Apple may or may not shut 470 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: this down? 471 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: And I guess that's my other question. Can Apple shut 472 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: this down? 473 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 7: Well, here's how I look at it. Rich iPhone users today, 474 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 7: when they send a message to a friend on an 475 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 7: Android phone, they get a worse experience. It's not great. 476 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 7: You know, there's no like I said, there's no high 477 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 7: resolution pictures, Your messages are unencrypted. When your Android friend 478 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 7: downloads peper Mini, all of a sudden, you get a 479 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 7: better experience on your iPhone. And now I think it 480 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 7: would be kind of crazy to stop something like that. 481 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 7: Bper Mini is an app that makes both Android users 482 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 7: lives better as well as iPhone users. So I think 483 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 7: it'd be like, I think it'd be nuts to stop 484 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 7: something like that. It's just a net positive for the world, 485 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 7: and in terms of security, we have gone out of 486 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 7: our way to make this as secure and private as possible. 487 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 7: So the most important thing that we've done is we 488 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 7: do something called end to end encryption. That means that 489 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 7: when you send a message using deeper Mini, your message 490 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 7: is encrypted before it gets sent. That means that no 491 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 7: one can read your message. We can't read it. Apple 492 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 7: can't read it, your internet provider, your cell phone plan 493 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: can't read that message. No one can read the message 494 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 7: except for the recipient, except for the person that you're 495 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 7: sending it to. And that's really important. And up until now, 496 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 7: if you are an Android user sending a message to 497 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 7: an iPhone user, your message wouldn't be encrypted. Basically everyone 498 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 7: could read it. It's like a postcard. And so peeper 499 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 7: Mini actually brings a lot more security to the average 500 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 7: group chat or direct message. 501 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Why didn't Apple make this app? 502 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 7: I mean they kind of are. So there was some 503 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 7: news two weeks ago where Apple said that they're going 504 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 7: to adopt an open standard for messaging called RCS, the 505 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 7: Rich Chat Service Protocol. They didn't say exactly when they're 506 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 7: going to do this, maybe by the end of twenty 507 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 7: twenty four, so fingers crossed, you know, it would be 508 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 7: a lot easier for us to do our jobs if 509 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 7: there was an open standard for messaging. So we're excited 510 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 7: by the possibility that Apple will do this, but we 511 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 7: just just said we couldn't wait. We had to do 512 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 7: it now. 513 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: All right, There you have it, Beeper Mini. It was 514 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: working really well for about twenty four hours, and you 515 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: heard the question, I said, is Apple going to shut 516 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: this down? And indeed they seem to have shut this down. 517 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: So Beeper was tweeting over the overnight saying that they 518 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: are working on getting this back up and running. But 519 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: at this point it's kind of a game of cat 520 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: and mouse because Apple sort of refuses to bring this 521 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: to Android when they know they can and make a 522 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: lot of lives better. I mean, the divide between you know, 523 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: the green bubble and the blue bubble. It's a real 524 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: thing and it's really annoying. And it's like the debate 525 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: I posted on my Instagram at rich on Tech a 526 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: simple question, I said, iPhone versus Android, And you can't 527 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: believe that in the year twenty twenty three, people are 528 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: still debating the merits of these two platforms. Now, I 529 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: don't mind if you have a preference for the phone 530 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: that you want. That's fine. There's a lot of options 531 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: on either side, but the fact that our messaging does 532 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: not work in the same way, and I feel like 533 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: a broken record because I've talked about this so much. 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: It's just not right now. 535 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: Apple is bringing RCS to the iPhone next year, they 536 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: said late next year. That's still another possible six, seven, eight, nine, 537 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: ten months that people have to deal with this. And 538 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: even when RCS comes to the iPhone, which means Android 539 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: users will be able to exchange high quality photos and 540 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: videos with iPhone users, they will also be able to 541 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: get those you know, everything's just gonna work nice. So 542 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: that's basically it is. You'll be able to, you know, 543 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: exchange the videos and photos and not have them look 544 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: like a postage stamp. That will be the big advantage. 545 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: But the messages are still going to turn up green. 546 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: So Beeper was onto something. They were trying something. We'll see, 547 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: we'll continue to see if this works out. By the way, 548 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: they are charging two dollars a month, something else that 549 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Apple probably doesn't like. All right, if you have a 550 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: question for me, give me a call. Triple eight rich 551 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: one O one that's eighty eight seven. 552 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: Four to two four one zero one. 553 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: You can also go to the website rich on Tech 554 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: dot TV, hit the contact link and you can send 555 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: me your email. 556 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: More rich on Tech coming your way right after this. 557 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech, Rich to Miuro here 558 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: talking technology. Triple eight Rich one oh one is the 559 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: phone number for the show. That's eight eight eight seven 560 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. This is show 561 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: number forty nine. By the way, if you can believe it, 562 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: it's almost been a full year of this show, which 563 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for inviting me into 564 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: your home and your car and your speakers and your 565 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: phone and your earbuds and all the other places you 566 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: might listen. It has truly been an honor. And uh, 567 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: it's not over. It's not like this is not like 568 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: a goodbye, It's go. It kind of started to sound 569 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: like I thought Bobo was gonna play me out for 570 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: a second there. No, I'm just saying thank you. I 571 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: just can't believe a year has gone by that fast 572 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: playing me out music. Let's go to uh John in 573 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: more Park. 574 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 9: John, You're on with rich Thank you Rich taking my call. 575 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 576 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 9: I use YouTube. I listened to it via Wi Fi 577 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 9: and whatever. Normally it works just fine. But every once 578 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 9: in a while they speed up the the velocity of 579 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 9: their speech. There's doubles of their time, and I have 580 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 9: hard time at normal speed even either that's too fast 581 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 9: for me. I'm so slow. Is there any way I 582 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 9: can get around that? A trait of YouTube's feeding me up. 583 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 9: So it happens a few seconds and then they go 584 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 9: back to normal. 585 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think I know what's happening here. 586 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: There's well, there's a couple of things, and I actually 587 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: think I have a solution to your you know, if 588 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: you want to listen to things slower too, there's actually 589 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: a solution for that. But so, what's happening I think, 590 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: And I've seen this before on my Instagram. I have 591 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: a really bad connection at one of the places why 592 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: I look at Instagram and my stories and like the 593 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: same thing happens. Like I'm watching a reel and it's 594 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: like super fast, and all of a sudden it slows down, 595 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: and then it speeds up and it slows down. And 596 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: what's happening, I think, is an unstable internet connection. So 597 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: it's buffering, and so it's getting all that stuff and 598 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: it starts to play it and then it slows down 599 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: and it starts to play it again. So I think 600 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: that's what's happening here. So what you can do is 601 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: you can try to improve your Internet connection wherever you're 602 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: using this, So I know, if it's a TV or 603 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: something or a computer, you know, you may not be 604 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: able to move it to a different place, but that 605 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: might be it. But you might want to just kind 606 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: of like clear the cookies and the cash on your 607 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: computer and on your web browser, I should say, And 608 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: maybe that will help kind of clear things out and 609 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: make YouTube run smooth again. Now, if you want to 610 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: listen to things a little bit slower on YouTube, actually 611 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: is a way to do that. And I'm not sure 612 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: if this is just a premium feature. I pay for 613 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: like YouTube premium, so I'm seeing this on my account, 614 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: but it may be available to everyone. But if you 615 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: are watching a video, there's a little gear icon and 616 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: it says playback speed, and you can playback normal. Some 617 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: people like to listen to things faster, so they'll do 618 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: like a two X, but you can choose anything from 619 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: point two five to two X. So if you want 620 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: to listen to something slower, that is a way to 621 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: do it. And that's just a built into YouTube. I 622 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: don't know if that's a premium feature though, I do 623 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: not have information on that right now, but I know 624 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: it's on my account. 625 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: I guess I can go into like a you know 626 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: what I can do. Let me try this. 627 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to go into a incognito web browser and 628 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: see if that's still available, and sure enough it is, 629 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: So there you go. So John, just tap that little 630 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: gear icon in the on the screen when you're watching 631 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: a video and it will say playback speed, which is 632 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: anywhere from point two five to two. 633 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: Good question. Thanks for calling in today. Let's go to 634 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: Bob in the San Fernando Valley. Bob, you're on with. 635 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 5: Rich A Rich Happy forty nine and happy happy holidays. 636 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: Thank you you too. What can I help you? 637 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: I'm I'm a big fan of the show, both on 638 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: TV here as well as the radio and this. I 639 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 5: have been with Time Warner on the East Coast and 640 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: then Time Warner here on the West Coast, and then 641 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 5: ultimately Spectrum. All this time I've been able to record 642 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: anything I wanted from television using cable and a recorder 643 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 5: of EHS or DVD recorder. On the end of the 644 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 5: middle of May of this year, I get an email 645 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 5: from Spectrum saying your item will arrive on Wednesday. Well, 646 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: I didn't order anything. When it arrived, there was a 647 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 5: huge box. Ok, I didn't open it. I called them 648 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 5: and said, well, if you didn't order that, you can 649 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 5: take it back, just drop it off. So I was 650 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 5: in and out of the Midwest and back, and on 651 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 5: May thirtieth, I got an email saying your new account 652 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 5: will start tomorrow. On June first, and I lost service 653 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 5: and I ended up calling Spectrum at like one in 654 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 5: the morning and talked to a tech for three hours. 655 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 5: He said open the box. And the box was a 656 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 5: new cable box. And the one thing about the cable 657 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: box is it did not have a coaxial cable out. 658 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: There was a table in TV out. That's the way 659 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 5: it's always been. Apparently I was considered a legacy account holder, 660 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 5: and so they stopped digital adapters which had both cable in. 661 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: TV out there just doing digital out. 662 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. So basically I now cannot record or time shift 663 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: anything to the recorder or disc because I would do 664 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 5: that for historical reasons. Basically time shift my work patterns 665 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 5: would be second shift, third shift, so I could record 666 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 5: what I needed to look at when I got home. 667 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: And now you have no way of doing that, no 668 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: way of doing it. 669 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 5: And that's a program they are introducing across the country. 670 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 5: So when I was in the Midwest, I went to 671 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: a Spectrum store and told them that do you have 672 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 5: a cable box, And the one that they presented me 673 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 5: was to act cable in TV out to cables. 674 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 675 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: And then they said, because you are in California, we 676 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 5: can't do anything about it. Otherwise I'm sure they would 677 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: give me the box. 678 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 8: Right. 679 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 5: They started in California. They're introducing it across the country. 680 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 5: So by the middle of twenty twenty four or the 681 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 5: end of twenty twenty four, nobody will be able to 682 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: record to DVD or VHS. If you have it, I 683 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 5: have a combination right. 684 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean I think it makes sense. I 685 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: think it's thank you for the warning. By the way, 686 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: I think this makes sense as we make this digital transition. 687 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: I do think that less people are probably using the 688 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: coax out from their cable box and they're just using 689 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: HDMI into the back of their TV for the box. 690 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I was just in a Spectrum 691 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: store and they showed me the cable box, and I'm 692 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: trying to look in my pictures to see if I 693 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: have a picture of the back of it. 694 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: I didn't look. Oh man, I wish I did. I don't. 695 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: I don't have a picture of the back of the 696 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: cable box. 697 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: But I'm curious now because I'm I didn't notice that 698 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: that it didn't have an out. So if you don't 699 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: have those outs, you can't bring this into like any 700 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: sort of recorder, which makes sense, but I mean, look, 701 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: there there are may be some ways around this if 702 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: you gosh. I mean with HDMI, there are a lot 703 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: more copyright protections on the signal and also on the cable, 704 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: so it probably will not give you away. I can't 705 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: even think there's a recorder that would take that signal 706 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: in and let your record like, especially like a DVD 707 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: recorder or something like that. I would say, maybe the 708 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: only way to round this is to do something like 709 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: a TiVo that might have a cable card, but I 710 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: don't even think they offer cable card anymore. At the 711 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, these these companies want you to 712 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: use their products and services, and as we get more 713 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: into this on demand world and this world of cloud DVRs, 714 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: the companies control that, and that's what they want because 715 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: now you have to pay them. And also you don't 716 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: have as much flexibility. You can no longer keep that 717 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: recording for as long as you want. So, Bob, thanks 718 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: for the information, and now we know we've got the 719 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: fair warning. 720 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: Not gonna be able to do your own recording soon. 721 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, how police can spy on 722 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: your push notifications eighty to eight rich one on one. 723 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich On Tech. 724 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at 725 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one O one eight eight seven four 726 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one. Man, the phones 727 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: are on fire today, just so many calls. 728 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 2: I do want to get to them. I will try. 729 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: It's always a dance because I want to answer the calls, 730 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: I want to answer the emails. But I also want 731 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: to tell you all the news that I brought in, 732 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: and I have tons of it. I mean, it's all 733 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: just like sitting here, like I have tons of little 734 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: topics I want to bring up like this. This week, 735 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: there was a bit of a revelation that governments can 736 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: basically spy on you through a push notification. So this 737 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: all came to light this week because US senator out 738 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: of Oregon sent a letter. I don't know who he 739 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: sent it to, but he sent it to someone or 740 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: maybe it was Apple and Google, but he said, hey, 741 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: you guys should really reveal the fact that you hand 742 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: over information on individuals if governments ask for it, and 743 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: the way they do this is really tricky and I 744 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: never really thought about this. Okay, So basically, let's say 745 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: you sign up for an app anonymously on your iPhone 746 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: or Android, okay, a messaging app, and you send a 747 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: bunch of messages and now all of a sudden you 748 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 1: get a notification. Well, that notification has to go through 749 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Google or Apple servers. They're kind of like the post office, 750 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: and they know the address to your phone and what 751 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: do they also know? Well, they also know your account 752 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: information that you use to sign up for that Google 753 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: account or that Apple account. And so government's got hip 754 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: to this and said, hey, can you share that information 755 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: with us when we need it? And why would they 756 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: need it? Well, maybe there's some sort of dissident in 757 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: their government or an activist or anyone that they may 758 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: be interested in getting information on. And Apple and Google 759 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: apparently comply with these requests. Now for Apple and Google, 760 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: it depends on how they receive the request. With Apple, 761 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: I believe they need a subpoena and with Google they 762 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: need a court order. But the reality is if you 763 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: sign up anonymously, but then that notification comes to your 764 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 1: phone and you have an iPhone or an Android, there 765 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: is information that these companies can then share about you 766 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: because they know your account information. It's just wild that 767 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: this happens. And so my point is, if you think 768 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: you are being anonymous on your phone, you are probably not. 769 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: And I thought this was also interesting that Google and 770 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: Apple had this secret deal with the government that was 771 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: not previously disclosed until this senator said hey, you should 772 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: probably disclose this. And then Apple and Google came clean 773 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, we do have this program, and now 774 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: we know about it. And now you just have to 775 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: realize that you're never really being anonymous online. Let's go 776 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: to Robin in Fallbrook, California. Robin, you're on with Rich. 777 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 4: Hey there, Bruton, is this okay if I'm talking through 778 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 4: my phone on my car? 779 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah sounds great. 780 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 10: Oh perfect, Okay, I learned something new. 781 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 11: All right. 782 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 10: I have Spectrum at home internet. I have the right 783 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 10: internet only at my studio office, and now I want 784 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 10: and then I have a Verizon cell phone service for 785 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 10: just my husband and I and I'm kind of getting nailed. 786 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 10: I'm paying like one hundred and seventy five bucks a 787 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 10: month and it's not even unlimited internet. So we have 788 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 10: a place out in the middle of a desert where 789 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 10: I have to take like a they call it like 790 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 10: a jet path or something. 791 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 792 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to do that anymore because it uses 793 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 4: up all my. 794 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 10: My my megabytes or data stuff for whatever they give 795 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 10: you every month. And is there is there something that 796 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 10: I can have that is like a portable internet that what's. 797 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 4: That thing with Elon Musk that he has that. 798 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 10: I forget what it's called like a link of starlink. 799 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a couple of things you can do here. 800 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: So here's my question. So you're right now you're paying 801 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: for what just your phone, your your Verizon serve and 802 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: when you go to your house in the desert, it's 803 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: using your jet pack, which is also on your account. Yeah, okay, 804 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: and that's that's. 805 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: I need something where I can get unlimited minutes, which 806 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 4: I can do with consumer cellular for real cheap, but 807 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: they don't have the jet packed capability, so I would 808 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: have cheap internet and cheap cell phone unlimited, but then 809 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 4: I can't get internet out. 810 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: In the desert, right, Okay, Well, couple, yeah, a couple 811 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: couple of suggestions for you. So Starlink is Elon Musk's 812 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: satellite Internet. There's a couple of companies that provide satellite internet. 813 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: It's Starlink, one of them is called hues Net, and 814 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: then via sat. Now, I believe that the Starlink is 815 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: the fastest of the three and the best technology, but 816 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: you're going to be looking at some startup costs and 817 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: also some monthly costs which are not cheap. So I 818 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: believe the last time I looked at it, it was 819 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: about one hundred dollars a month for your Internet through 820 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: Starlink and then a setup fee which I think was 821 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: close to a couple hundred dollars. So that's going to 822 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: be a very expensive option if you're not using the 823 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: Internet a ton out there, like if you're living there. 824 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: I think that would be fine. But since you're telling. 825 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: Me that you have the ability to use a jetpack 826 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: at this location, a jet pack is basically just Verizon's 827 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: branding for a mobile hot spot. So there's a couple 828 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: things you could do. Number One, you can ask Verizon 829 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: for a plan that has more hot spot. So what 830 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: I would probably do is this would be this would 831 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: be the order of things I would do. So, if 832 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: you're already paying Verizon, see what plan you have, right, 833 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: And Verizon has different Internet plans or different phone plans, 834 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: and some of them include mobile hotspot. So if you're 835 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: using an iPhone or an Android, there is the ability 836 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: to turn your phone into a mobile hot spot, but 837 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: you need to have a certain amount of data to 838 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: do that, and all the companies used to kind of 839 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: include that in the plans. Now it is separated out 840 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: most of the time and you get a certain allotment 841 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: of that. So with Verizon plans, they're unlimited plans. You 842 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: may get thirty gigs of hot spot data or fifty 843 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: gigs of hot spot data. It kind of depends on 844 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: the plan you have with them. So I would go 845 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: to Verizon and ask them and say, Hey, I've got 846 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: this place in the desert and I want to use 847 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: my phone as a hot spot. That's the keyword, my 848 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: phone as a hot spot. Which plan do you think 849 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: is best for that? And they may say okay, Well, 850 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: if you're on the Unlimited Plus or the Unlimited Ultimate, 851 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: you'll get a certain amount of hot spots. So this 852 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: Ultimate plan includes sixty gigs of mobile hotspot. That's probably 853 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,959 Speaker 1: enough for a month. So that's per month. By the way, 854 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: the middle plan with Verizon will give you oh wow, 855 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: the Unlimited Plus gives you thirty gigs, but you can 856 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: add an extra one hundred gigs of mobile hotspot. Anyway, 857 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: It's very confusing because it all depends on your plan. 858 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: So talk to someone at Verizon say hey, look, I 859 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: want to use my phone as a mobile hotspot at 860 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: my home. Now, when you get to your house, what 861 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: you would do is you would plug in your phone 862 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: and you would toggle the hot spot, and then your 863 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: devices like your TV and you know, I'm guessing it's 864 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: just your TV and your computer that you want to 865 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: connect to this thing. They would connect to your phone 866 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: and your phone would act as the mobile hotspot. I 867 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: would recommend that you plug in your phone so that 868 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: the battery doesn't go dead instantly. 869 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: Now that's one way of doing it. 870 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: The other way to do it is both Verizon, T 871 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: Mobile and AT and T. They all have what's called 872 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: five G home Internet, and Verizon is and T Mobile 873 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: are especially aggressive in their pricing and their promotions with 874 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: this home Internet. So if you already have a Verizon 875 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: signal at this place in the desert, you might just 876 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: want to get the Verizon Home Internet. And all that 877 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: is is a hot spot, a jet pack that you 878 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: plug in in that home. It pulls in the cellular 879 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: connection and then it spits it out as a Wi 880 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: Fi connection. So it's just an industrial hot spot for 881 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: your entire house. And the good news is if you 882 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: already have a Verizon account, the pricing is very is 883 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 1: very aggressive on this, so it's really affordable because they're 884 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: trying to get people to switch to this. So the pricing, 885 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much it is per month sort 886 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: of depends on your Verizon plan, but I've seen it 887 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: anywhere from like twenty five to fifty five dollars a month, 888 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: but especially with the promotions for the first year, you 889 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: can at least try that out see if it works. 890 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: That's probably what I would do. Use your phone first. 891 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: If that doesn't work, if you get really frustrated with that, 892 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: then I would I would try the home Internet. If 893 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 1: you're going to move to this place, or you're spending 894 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: every single weekend there or weeks at a time there 895 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: and you're doing work. Maybe check out something like starlink. 896 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: That's probably the way to go. Question Robin and let 897 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: me know what you do Rich on tech dot Tv. 898 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: Hit contact and keep me posted. 899 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 2: All right. 900 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: DoorDash, if you have DoorDash installed on your phone, you 901 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: can get free pickup and returns for your packages right now. 902 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: So if you want to do five free pickups from 903 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: your house, you can use the code gift box. And 904 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: if you have dash Pass, which is their subscription service, 905 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: you can get unlimited free pickups of your packages until 906 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: December thirtieth. 907 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: So what does that mean. 908 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: You've got to return something to a store like Macy's 909 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: or Amazon. You've got the return code that you print 910 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: out at your house or the label. All you have 911 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: to do is stick that on the package, package it up. 912 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: Someone from DoorDash will come to your house, pick it 913 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: up and bring it to a FedEx, a UPS or 914 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: a post office. This is for under thirty pounds under 915 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. They will do everything you need. If 916 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: they mess it up, you've got a five hundred dollars reimbursement. 917 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: Claim that you can do. 918 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: Uber also has a similar package return service. I checked 919 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: on my Uber app and they are doing a promotion 920 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: where they will give you the first package return for free. 921 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you're like me, but we 922 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: order a bunch of stuff on Amazon, not all of 923 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: it works out. So by the front door, we've got 924 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff that we need to return 925 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: to an Amazon Fresh store or a UPS store. And 926 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: if you have that and you want someone to do 927 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: that for you, you can have DoorDash to it, or 928 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: you can have Uber do it. And it might be 929 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: a nice time to try this out during the holiday. 930 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: So again, the code is gift box or if you 931 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: have dash pass, it is free and unlimited. 932 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 2: This is all through December thirtieth. 933 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: Rich on Tech, dot tv, slash wiki if you want 934 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: to link to anything I mentioned here. The phone number 935 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: to the show eight eight eight rich one oh one 936 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 937 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: More show coming up. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 938 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: My name is rich DeMuro, hanging out with you talking tech. 939 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: Phone line to the show is eight eight eight rich 940 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two 941 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: four one zero one. Caim will answer, and if you're 942 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: really nice to her, she may let you throw. I 943 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: know she's tough, but we get people on so I 944 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: guess you know, some people are really really nice. You 945 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: can follow me on social media. I am at rich 946 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: on Tech. You can find me on Instagram. Yes, i 947 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: am back on X in a big way. I've got 948 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: the blue bubble or not the blue bubble, the blue 949 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: check mark. Yes, I broke down and paid for the 950 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: X because I will tell you why, bo bo. I 951 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: will tell you why. I was pure pressured into it 952 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: because I think I told this story. But I posted 953 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: on there, and look, you know people are still on 954 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: there and it's tough to argue that. And anyway, I'm 955 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: having a lot of fun being on there again because 956 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: I kind of gave up on it and now I'm back. 957 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm probably over correcting because now I'm 958 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: posting like everything. 959 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, here's my breakfast. But I'm there. 960 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm also on Facebook at rich on Tech on all 961 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: of these platforms. 962 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: Let's see. We got an email from Michael. 963 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: He said, Visible Wireless is the only phone plan with 964 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: unlimited hotspot that I know of. 965 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 2: It's twenty five dollars a month, and it's on Verizon. 966 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: It should work in the desert, so yes, Verizon's Visible 967 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: does have a good plan with unlimited hotspot. There are 968 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: some limitations that you do need to know about. The 969 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: speed is capped, so I believe the speed is about 970 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: five megabits per second, which is slow, but it's probably 971 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: enough for like most things like you can probably watch 972 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: Netflix and stuff like that, but you may only be 973 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: able to connect one device to your phone at a 974 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: time with that, so check the fine print. There's always 975 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: fine print with all of these situations. Might have gotten 976 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: an email from Amazon that says Venmo is no longer 977 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: accepted on Amazon dot Com starting January tenth, twenty twenty four. 978 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: Well that was fast. It's so wild how things change. 979 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: I remember getting an email from Amazon saying, hey, we're 980 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: accepting Venmo and we'll give you ten bucks if you 981 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: add it to your account, and I said sure. So 982 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: I authorized my Venmo with my Amazon which I would 983 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: never do because why would I pay with Venmo? I 984 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: don't need to just use your card. And I got 985 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: ten dollars off my purchase. My Venmo was kind of 986 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: lingering on my account. Actually, it's funny because I got 987 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 1: a promo for adding Venmo to my Uber account and 988 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: my Amazon account, and then, of course what happens is 989 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: you set it as your payment method and you forget, 990 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: and so you start doing charges and they all go 991 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: through Venmo. 992 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 2: So this happened with Uber, it happened with Amazon. 993 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shoot, I don't want to use 994 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,959 Speaker 1: Venmo for my Amazon account. And now it's no longer. 995 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: I guess they're breaking up. That was like less than 996 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: a year that lasted. I don't know what changed, but 997 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: I guess it didn't work out. Nobody cared, nobody wanted it. 998 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: Might have gotten an email from Ring this week. Ring 999 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 1: says we are reassuring users. On June sixteenth, twenty twenty three, 1000 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: we entered it into a settlement with the FTC to 1001 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: resolve allegations that employees and contractors had access to the 1002 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 1: stored videos collected by Ring cameras, and some of these 1003 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: employees viewed videos without permission and no business reason. 1004 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1005 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: Basically, the FTC said that Ring employees were just kind 1006 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: of looking at videos of your doorbell cams without any 1007 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: sort of reason to do that. Now, yeah, that does 1008 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: not sound very nice. It says, these individuals are no 1009 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: longer employed by RING, and since twenty eighteen, back when 1010 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: this happened, we have significantly changed our access and review practices. 1011 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: Now only a small number of employees can access videos 1012 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: and in only limited circumstances. Does that sound very reassuring 1013 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: to you? Sounds like they can still watch my videos? 1014 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: So number one, is that a peeping tom? Is that 1015 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: a oh okay, that's crickets? Someone hiding in the bushes 1016 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: looking at your RING cameras. Now, look, in all seriousness, 1017 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: I do think that these companies that have these cameras. 1018 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: Number one, you have to be aware that there probably 1019 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: is a method that someone can look at your video 1020 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: streams if they need it to in the event that 1021 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: there is a government request, police request. I think the 1022 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: other thing to do here, if you really want to 1023 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: make sure that nobody can see your videos, you can 1024 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: enable what's called end to end encryption. It is not 1025 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: on by default, not every provider offers it. I do 1026 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: believe RING does offer that, but there are some downsides 1027 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: to that. Once you enable the end to end encryption, 1028 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: there are some things that are not possible when you 1029 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: enable that, and it has to do with how many 1030 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: different devices you can view your videos on and the 1031 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: notifications and the videos and all that stuff. So it 1032 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: is much easier if you don't enable that. But if 1033 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: you want the maximum protection and the maximum security of 1034 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: your cameras, then you know you can enable that. 1035 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: It is an option. 1036 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: But I do think that Ring has probably cleaned up 1037 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: their act and this was a couple of bad actors. 1038 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, you're talking five years ago, and it's just 1039 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: one of those things where now that people know about it, 1040 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: it probably won't happen again. But we do know from 1041 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: history that the government and law enforcement if they do 1042 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: request these videos in a you know, in sort of 1043 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: a court order or subpoena, they can probably get their 1044 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: hands on them. So don't put them in your bedroom, 1045 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. Keep them aimed out the front door. 1046 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: This is weird. Windows, that's not funny. You don't you 1047 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: don't want cameras in your bedroom in general, Like that's 1048 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of creepy, right. Windows bug renames printers to HP 1049 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: laser Jet. There's a Windows bug that is renaming printers 1050 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: to HP laser Jet, regardless of the actual brand model. 1051 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: This is affecting Windows ten and Windows eleven device. The 1052 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: bug also installs the HP smart app even if you 1053 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: don't need it. Microsoft is investigating and apparently you can 1054 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: still print, but double clicking on a printer may show 1055 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: a no tasks available error. This bug was first reported 1056 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: on December sixth. There's no estimated fixed time. If you're 1057 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: really techy, you can block access to the Microsoft Store 1058 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: and that will prevent the bug from renaming your printers. 1059 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: But if you're wondering why this happened, if you're scratching 1060 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: your head, you're like, what is going on here? 1061 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 2: It's a bug. You're not going crazy, all right? 1062 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to talk to Mitch Lee, one 1063 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: of the founders of ARC. This is a startup that 1064 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: is building an all electric performance speedboat. I was on it. 1065 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: It is pretty fun, no fumes. We'll talk to Mitch 1066 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 1: Lee coming up next right here on rich On Tech. 1067 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich On Tech. 1068 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology on location. 1069 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: We've done interviews in the plane. This is the first 1070 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: time I've done an inner view on a boat. We 1071 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: are in Long Beach and joining me now is Mitchley 1072 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: of ARC Boats. 1073 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. 1074 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 6: It's great to be here and we are excited to 1075 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 6: have you out on our one of our boats. 1076 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: So this is an all electric boat. Describe what we 1077 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 1: are on right now. 1078 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 6: This boat that we're on now is called the ARC one. 1079 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 6: It is the first model boat that we brought to market. 1080 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 6: It's a twenty four foot fully electric power boat, capable 1081 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 6: of five hundred horsepower and software limited to forty miles 1082 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 6: an hour. 1083 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: And I've already been on it spoiler alert, and it's 1084 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: quite incredible. It's quiet, it's smooth, it's powerful. Tell me 1085 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: about the company. Let's start with ARC You're based in 1086 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and what are you trying to do? 1087 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 6: This company didn't even exist three years ago, and at 1088 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 6: this point we have already manufactured and delivered the ARC 1089 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 6: one to our initial customers. The entire company is now 1090 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 6: focused on the next model we're bringing to market, which 1091 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 6: is a mass market wakesport boat. If you zoom back out, 1092 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 6: as a company, our goal is to electrify everything on 1093 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 6: the water. Electric boats make a ton more sense than 1094 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 6: gas boats across pretty much every aspect of boating. The 1095 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 6: ownership experience is much nicer. They're quiet, We can hold 1096 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 6: an interview on a boat. You're not smelling fumes. They're 1097 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 6: far more reliable, they're less expensive to operate, and the 1098 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 6: experience of operating one itself is so much better thanks 1099 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 6: to software and the technology on this boat. The hard 1100 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 6: part is actually putting enough energy on the boat to 1101 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 6: move through water at high speeds and with a lot 1102 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 6: of power. That is what we specialize in. We build 1103 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 6: our holes, our battery packs, and a lot of the 1104 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 6: systems that go into this boat in house in our 1105 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 6: manufacturing facility in Los Angeles. 1106 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: So, Mitch, what made you wake up and say I 1107 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 1: would like to electrify a boat. 1108 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 6: I am a lifelong boating enthusiast. My parents were boating enthusiasts, 1109 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 6: and particularly water ski enthusiasts. They love to slalom ski. 1110 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 6: So I grew up out getting dragged behind a boat 1111 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 6: with wakeboarding and knee boarding and water skiing and wakesurfing. 1112 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 6: This is what I love to do with my time. 1113 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 6: I also have a degree in mechanical engineering and spent 1114 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 6: a while portion of my career as a software developer, 1115 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 6: and this is kind of the marriage of all of 1116 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 6: those things, my passion and my actual career. 1117 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: When I tell people I'm going out on an electric boat. 1118 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: They say, oh, a duffy because people think of a 1119 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: low powered or slower kind of boat. That's not what 1120 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: you set out to build. 1121 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 6: No, we absolutely want to change the perception of electric 1122 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 6: boats in the same way that most people associate electric 1123 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 6: cars with performance, with really fast zero to sixty times. 1124 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 6: We are here to change the perception of electric boats 1125 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 6: on the water, and hopefully your experience today made that point. 1126 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 2: So we're on the arc one. 1127 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: This is the boat that you initially sold. You made 1128 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 1: a couple dozen of them, and now you're onto Well, 1129 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: tell me some of the features of this unit that 1130 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: we're on. 1131 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 2: So this was a limited edition boat that. 1132 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 6: Was our first entrance into the market, into the marine space. 1133 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,439 Speaker 6: It consists of two battery packs. Each one of those 1134 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 6: battery packs is larger than pretty much anything you'd find 1135 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 6: in an electric car. In total, it's two hundred and 1136 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 6: twenty kilowat hours of battery capacity, which, as a point 1137 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 6: of references, roughly three times the size of a Model 1138 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 6: Y battery pack. The boat is laid out in an 1139 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 6: open seating arrangement. Given that everything is packaged below the floor, 1140 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 6: that affords a lot of space, a lot of space 1141 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 6: for storage and a lot of space for seating on 1142 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 6: the boat of this size. 1143 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: It's a big boat. It's got a lot of space. 1144 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: It's got a lot of space for people. Again, it's fast, 1145 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,479 Speaker 1: it's quiet. There is absolutely no scent to the boat. 1146 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: There's no fumes, there's none of that boating scent that 1147 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: you kind of associate with being out on the open water. 1148 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: It's a very simple setup. So you've got just the 1149 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: steering wheel, the throttle. You've got this nice big screen 1150 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: which is kind of very Tesla esque in the center, 1151 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: which is showing maps, music. There's even a backup camera. 1152 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: I guess if you can call it a back it's 1153 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: a back camera. I should say. You see your current speed, 1154 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: your current battery, You've got a compass, the water temperature, 1155 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: and also the water depth. Do you think that this 1156 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: appeals to someone who has grown up with an iPhone 1157 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: or someone who is driving a Tesla. 1158 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1159 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 6: We want to make better boats and we hope that 1160 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 6: those boats and expect that those boats will appeal both 1161 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 6: to people that have grown up boating and people that 1162 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 6: are brand new to it. By making boats far easier 1163 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 6: to own and far less expensive to actually operate, opens 1164 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 6: up the market. These are simply better boats. They solve 1165 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 6: the main pain points with gas boats today. 1166 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: What about the charging situation? How long does it take 1167 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: to charge? How much time do you get out in 1168 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: the water on a charge? 1169 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: We think in terms of usage time. 1170 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 6: We want people to be able to use their boat 1171 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 6: exactly how they want to use it for a full day, 1172 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 6: plug in at the end of the day, and wake 1173 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 6: up the next morning with a boat that is ready 1174 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 6: to hit the water again. In practice, that tends to 1175 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 6: mean three to five hours of active usage time. That 1176 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 6: is a much better experience than what you gas boat 1177 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 6: owners deal with today, lugging gas cans down to a 1178 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 6: dock and filling it up manually, having to go twenty 1179 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 6: minutes away to the nearest marina to pay ten dollars 1180 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 6: a gallon, or any of the other creative solutions people 1181 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 6: come up with. 1182 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Are the chargers readily accessible? Absolutely. 1183 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 6: This boat uses what's known as a CCS one charger. 1184 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 6: It is the same style of charger that you use 1185 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 6: for any electric car on the road today. And another 1186 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 6: awesome part about electric boats is that they tend to have. 1187 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Easier access to power. 1188 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 6: When you look across a marina today, most of those 1189 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 6: marinas actually already are equipped with what is known as 1190 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 6: shore power, because even gas boats use electricity to power 1191 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 6: refrigerators or bilge pumps or other accessories on the boat. 1192 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 6: You can just plug straight into that, plug it into 1193 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 6: your boat, and again wake up the next morning with 1194 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 6: the charge. Boat docks tend to be the same way. 1195 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 1: You've got the ARC One already. People are using this 1196 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: out in the world. You're learning a lot of data 1197 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: from that, and you're now building your mass market electric boat. 1198 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 2: What can we expect from that. 1199 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 6: The next boat we're bringing to market is a mass 1200 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 6: market wakesport boat. We'll have more to share about that soon. 1201 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 6: But as with a lot of new technology, the goal 1202 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 6: is to, over the course of our development time, make 1203 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 6: the technology more accessible to more people. Our goal is 1204 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 6: eventually for every boat on the water to be electric. 1205 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 6: It makes sense from a customer perspective, from a product perspective, 1206 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 6: and from environment perspective. We want to make it happen, 1207 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 6: and we want to make it happen quickly. 1208 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: How much are we talking for this boat for the 1209 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: buyers that already have it, and also the upcoming model. 1210 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 6: This boat was the ARC One was three hundred thousand dollars. 1211 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 6: That's a all in price that includes trailer delivery and 1212 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 6: best in class service. 1213 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 2: That might sound like a lot. 1214 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 6: But gas boats today of this size routinely sell for 1215 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 6: that amount of money. Boats just tend to be more 1216 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 6: expensive than automotive. Having said that, our goal is to 1217 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 6: drop the price of these boats over time. 1218 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Performance wise, we were doing some what do you call 1219 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: them s turns, S curves, and it was pretty wild. 1220 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: This boat goes very fast, It has a lot of maneuverability. 1221 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: It feels like you have a lot of control in 1222 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: this boat. Advantages of the electric system. 1223 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, so one of the things that we have designed 1224 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 6: into this boat is the ability to go quickly from 1225 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 6: zero up to top speed. You also get a lot 1226 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 6: of torque at low speeds, which makes it easy to 1227 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 6: pull a wake order water skier out of the water, 1228 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 6: and it also makes the acceleration quite fun. So we 1229 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 6: were out there doing what are known as hole shots, 1230 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 6: which is when you pin the throttle down and let 1231 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 6: the boats software take over and accelerate that boat up 1232 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 6: to top speed and then turn that into s turns 1233 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 6: where you're cranking the wheel left and right and going 1234 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 6: back and forth and really experiencing how sporty this boat is. 1235 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 6: We are not taking away from any part of your experience. 1236 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 6: This is absolutely better than what you're experiencing today on 1237 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 6: gas boats. 1238 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: All right, Mitch Lee, one of the founders of ARC. 1239 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Tell folks how they can learn more about the company. 1240 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 6: Go to arcboats dot com. 1241 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me today on the open water. 1242 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: If you want a link to that, I'll put on 1243 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: my website. Rich on Tech dot TV more rich on. 1244 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Tech coming your way. Do you have a question about technology? 1245 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: Give me a call. 1246 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: The number is triple eight rich one O one eight 1247 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1248 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 2: My name is Richdmuro and you are listening to rich 1249 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: on Tech. 1250 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Tomuro here hanging 1251 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 1: out with you talking technology. The phone line is triple 1252 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: eight rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven 1253 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: four to two. 1254 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 2: Four one zero one. Ah. Did you like the electric boat? 1255 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 2: That thing was so fun? 1256 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 3: I was. 1257 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: I was loving it the entire time up until they 1258 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 1: said the price, and I just about I was like, oh, 1259 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, wait why. I know boats are expensive, but uh, 1260 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of these things where it's like 1261 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: I wanted it so badly. Like now that I saw it, 1262 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I was like, ah, this is great. U let's go 1263 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: to Chris in Glendale. 1264 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 11: Chris John with Rich high Rich, thank you continuing my call. 1265 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 8: I'm a bit of a text I know, so this 1266 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 8: might be user error and I can't keep calling my 1267 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 8: thirty year old daughter to resolve this. 1268 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 2: But when i'm that's usually what happens. 1269 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 8: It always happens. I'm out and about. I have an 1270 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 8: Apple phone, I have ways of application, I have Google Maps, 1271 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 8: I have the various apps. I'll be lost and I'm 1272 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 8: trying to get somewhere, and when I try to use 1273 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 8: these apps, it comes up with no Wi Fi connection. However, 1274 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 8: I have. 1275 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 11: My cellular data on my roaming on my personal hotspot on. 1276 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 11: I thought that because I have all those things on, 1277 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 11: I'm going to be connected to my carrier, to a 1278 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 11: Wi Fi signal. I guess that's not the case. 1279 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're in a spot where you can't get 1280 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: the information you need from these apps because your phone 1281 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: looks like it's connected, but it's not getting the data 1282 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: needs right. Okay, Well, I have two solutions for you. 1283 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Number One, You're not alone. This happens all the time, 1284 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: especially on the iPhone. Happens to me, and I will 1285 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: tell you it's actually kind of weird. Number One, I 1286 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: don't think the iPhone does a good job of ditching 1287 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Wi Fi when there's not a good Wi Fi signal. 1288 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: So what's happening is your iPhone when you're using it, 1289 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 1: is managing your cellular and your Wi Fi all the time. 1290 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: It's toggling those and using the connections based on availability 1291 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: now most of the time. And let me give you 1292 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: an example of how this works. So let's say you 1293 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: are driving in your car and you have, you know, 1294 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: no Wi Fi signal around you. The iPhone recognizes that 1295 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: and it says, okay, we're going to use Chris's internet 1296 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: connection from Verizon or T Mobile or AT and T. 1297 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it finds when you 1298 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: come into your living room, says, oh, we noticed that 1299 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Chris's Wi Fi signal at home is here. 1300 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: Let's use that. 1301 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: So then the phone we'll switch to using that signal 1302 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: because it's saying, well, we always want to use Wi 1303 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: Fi when it's available, because it's usually a better connection, 1304 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 1: it's cheaper, it's more readily available, whatever. But sometimes your 1305 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 1: phone gets tripped up and there's a Wi Fi signal 1306 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: that it thinks it can latch onto, but it's not 1307 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: valid or it's not usable. And this happens with my 1308 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: phone a lot because of spectrum has these hot spots 1309 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: all over the city, and I connected to it once 1310 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 1: and my phone thinks that it can always connect to that, 1311 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: but somehow it's not a valid connection or a Starbucks 1312 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: connection that you have to click into. So the reality 1313 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: is there's a lot of times when your phone does 1314 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: not have a connection when it thinks it does, and 1315 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 1: it should drop that Wi Fi but it doesn't. 1316 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 2: So a couple things you can do. 1317 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: And I know this is annoying, but if you're ever 1318 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: in this situation and you need a quick fix, you 1319 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 1: can swipe down from the upper right hand corner of 1320 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: your iPhone and you'll notice there's a Wi Fi signal. 1321 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 1: You can tap that Wi Fi signal and it should 1322 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: be blue if it's on. If you tap it, it 1323 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: will turn white, and that means the Wi Fi signal 1324 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: is off. Now, that does not turn off Wi Fi forever. 1325 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 1: That only turns it off temporarily to get you out 1326 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: of that situation. And then once your phone gets to 1327 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 1: a place where there is a valid Wi Fi signal 1328 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: that it recognizes. Again, like when you get home, your 1329 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 1: phone will automatically toggle the Wi Fi back on and 1330 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: it will connect to that Wi Fi. 1331 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 2: So that's number one. 1332 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Number two I think is another solution that when you're 1333 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 1: running into this issue is what's called offline maps. Now 1334 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: on ways, I don't know if you can download offline maps. 1335 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: Let me see if you can do that. I'm not 1336 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: sure that you can do that. Let's see settings. Let's 1337 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 1: see do they have an offline I don't think they do, 1338 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 1: but and they might. But on Google Maps, there is 1339 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: something called offline maps, and I highly recommend that you 1340 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 1: download these for the areas that you frequent. So, for instance, 1341 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: if you live in Los Angeles, you can download pretty 1342 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 1: much all of the maps for Los Angeles, so they 1343 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: are on your phone. And there's two ways to do this. 1344 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: The first is kind of a secret way. So just 1345 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 1: go to your open up your Google Maps and you 1346 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 1: can type in okay maps, And if you type in 1347 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 1: that keyword, it's like a little hack. It's a little trick. 1348 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: It will say download this map, and now you can 1349 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 1: zoom out and download pretty much all of Los Angeles, 1350 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 1: and I highly recommend you do this because it's not 1351 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: going to take up much data on your phone, like 1352 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: for literally the entire area of LA. It's saying it's 1353 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: going to take up three hundred and twenty megabytes, and 1354 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 1: you can zoom in to just do like, you know, 1355 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 1: the basin. What I don't know, I don't I don't 1356 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: know why I call the basin And is that like 1357 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 1: a part of LA you know, just like whatever you want. 1358 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 1: And I also recommend that you do this for any 1359 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,679 Speaker 1: city that you're visiting. So if you are visiting let's 1360 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: say Seattle in the next couple of weeks, I would 1361 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 1: type in Seattle and you can do the same exact thing. 1362 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 1: So if you type in Seattle and then you scroll up, 1363 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: you'll see where it says download offline map, and you 1364 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: can tap that, and that means all of Seattle would 1365 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: now be downloaded onto your phone. And so what that 1366 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: means is that anytime you're in Seattle or navigating, you'll 1367 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,759 Speaker 1: always have the ability to get directions in that place, 1368 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: even if you don't have a valid cellular connection in 1369 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,679 Speaker 1: that area. So highly recommend it. Two ways to do it. Again, 1370 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: the keyword is okay maps, and if you type it in, 1371 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, Google has all these 1372 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 1: engineers that are just kind of like, you know, they're 1373 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: nerdy like myself, and nerds love secret little hacks like 1374 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: that Okay Maps. It's like, you know, okay computer kind 1375 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: of thing. So you type in okay maps and it 1376 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 1: will bring up the secret way to download any map. Now, 1377 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: if you fancy Apple Maps, you can. They just added 1378 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: the ability to do offline maps. So the way to 1379 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: do it on Apple Maps is if you type in 1380 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 1: a city. Let's type in Seattle again and you'll see 1381 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: if you start typing in a city, it will come 1382 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: up with that city name and you can tap download 1383 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: and it will give you the downloaded maps for that city. 1384 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if Ways offers offline maps. I'm gonna 1385 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: check real quick and I'll see offline maps are not 1386 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: available at this point in Ways. But a good question, 1387 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully that will help you out the next time 1388 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: you are in a pinch with that situation. All right, 1389 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: if you have Disney Plus, you might have noticed on 1390 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: your TV screen a new Hulu icon on the Disney 1391 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: Plus app. And this is because Disney is actually going 1392 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: to merge these two services. Disney Plus and Hulu are 1393 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: going to be one app come March twenty twenty four, 1394 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: but right now they're testing it with some people. I 1395 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 1: do not subscribe to Hulu at this point, so I 1396 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: don't have this, but I got a bunch of emails 1397 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: from people saying, rich, Hulu is now on my Disney screen. Yes, 1398 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 1: if you are a subscriber of both Disney Plus and Hulu, 1399 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: you might notice that that Hulu hub is now on 1400 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: your TV screen. So the reason they're doing this is 1401 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: because it makes sense. Disney owns both of these services, 1402 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: why not have them mixed into one place where you 1403 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: can watch the shows from all of them. So if 1404 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: you have it, you've got access to both, but you 1405 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 1: do have to pay. This is not something where you 1406 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 1: just have it if you don't pay. Let's see what 1407 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: else here. If you want to talk to Santa in 1408 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 1: augmented reality, this is really cute. If you go to 1409 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: the website ask Santa dot app, Ask Santa dot App, 1410 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: you go to this from your phone's web browser. There's 1411 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 1: no download necessary. This is an augmented reality Santa experience 1412 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 1: which lets you talk to Santa in real time and 1413 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of cute the way they do it. You 1414 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: basically aim your phone at the sky. You have to 1415 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: aim your smart phone at the sky. You tap your 1416 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 1: phone screen and next thing you know, Santa will come 1417 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,679 Speaker 1: down to your backyard and you can talk to Santa 1418 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: using AI. This is available now through January fifth. Again 1419 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: the website Asksanta dot App. This is from Nyantik, the 1420 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 1: creators of Pokemon Go. So it's kind of fun. 1421 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Try it out. 1422 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,719 Speaker 1: Ask Santa dot app. Eighty to eight rich one O one. 1423 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. We'll have more 1424 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: coming up right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1425 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Another hour of the show coming your way. My name 1426 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 1: is rich Demiro, talking technology with you at triple eight 1427 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 1: rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven four 1428 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,680 Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. If you have a 1429 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: question about technology, you need advice, you need something that's 1430 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: not working, you need an app recommendation, a gadget gift, 1431 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: whatever you need, give me a call triple eight rich 1432 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: one O one eight eight eight seven four to two 1433 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: for one zero one. The website for the show rich 1434 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Ontech dot TV. You can also send me an email 1435 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: there if you're too shy to call, and you can 1436 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 1: also find me on social media. 1437 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 2: I am at rich on Tech. 1438 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Jim sent an email about the whole Beeper Mini situation. 1439 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: This is the app that brings iMessage to Android, he said. 1440 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 1: The question is really about allocating resources to develop a 1441 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: superior product and then have companies with a lesser product 1442 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: wanting to use it and make money. If Apple users 1443 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 1: don't like that, their friends have green words and they 1444 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,759 Speaker 1: are free to trade in their iPhones for an Android, 1445 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: and Android users who don't like the interface can buy 1446 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 1: an iPhone. I haven't talked to any iPhone users who 1447 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: complain or want to switch. Plus, Beeper money will make it. 1448 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: Beeper Mini will make a ton of money without the 1449 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 1: upfront cost of developing I message. If a company cannot 1450 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 1: develop a superior product and protect it, then no company 1451 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 1: will spend the money on development. Rich How would you 1452 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 1: feel if someone duplicated your show, called it Rich on 1453 01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Tech and aired it at the same time you aired 1454 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 1: and took your audience that you built up. Jim, Well, 1455 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't think the radio show thing is the same. 1456 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: That's basically competition and bring it on. If someone wants 1457 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,799 Speaker 1: to talk technology at the same time and compete for listeners, 1458 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,519 Speaker 1: that's fine. I think the issue I take with I 1459 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: Message is that it is unnecessarily dividing the world. So 1460 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: technology is supposed to connect us, right. Imagine back in 1461 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: the day when we had telephones, like a telephone line 1462 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: that was in your house and you had AT and 1463 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 1: T and someone else had Verizon in your phone like 1464 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 1: a standard phone line, and you tried to call that person, 1465 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 1: they said, oh, sorry, you can't call them because they 1466 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 1: have Verizon. It doesn't work like No, everything works the same. 1467 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: You call them, it goes through. It works email, no 1468 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: matter if you send through Yahoo, Hotmail, Aol, Gmail, it 1469 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,520 Speaker 1: all works the same. There are things that are standardized. 1470 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: You plug in an HDMI cable, it is standardized. You 1471 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 1: plug in a coax cable, it is standardized. Wi Fi 1472 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: is standardized. Messaging is standardized. There is a standard message protocol. 1473 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Apple has booked that trend because they locked people into 1474 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 1: I Message. Now, yes, you can say you can opt out, 1475 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 1: but the thing is it's using your phone number and 1476 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 1: it's on the iPhone. So I just feel like it's 1477 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 1: just the way they went about it, and they knew 1478 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 1: what they had here, believe me, because they would have 1479 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 1: come up with an I message app years ago if 1480 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: they didn't think that this locked people into their phones. 1481 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 1: And yes, it's great and it works really nice. 1482 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 2: But by the way, you. 1483 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: Can get all of those features on WhatsApp, on Telegram, 1484 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:49,599 Speaker 1: on Signal, on RCS, on Facebook Messenger, Instagram Messenger, any 1485 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 1: other app in the world will work like this. But 1486 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,600 Speaker 1: the thing is the cross message functionality. The cross platform 1487 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: functionality is what I take issue with. When you're sending 1488 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,640 Speaker 1: a text message, it should send the same way to 1489 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 1: any phone, and we have protocols in place for that 1490 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 1: to happen. Apple is adopting those protocols, but it's confusing 1491 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 1: to the average person that is just using their phone 1492 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: number on an iPhone and they don't understand why when 1493 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 1: they text someone a picture or a video to an 1494 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: Android it comes out all pixelated. They don't know why 1495 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: that's happening, and they think it's because Android is not good. 1496 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 1: And that's where I take issue with that. Let's go 1497 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 1: to nas in Irvine. Nas am I saying that right, Yes, you. 1498 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 8: Are saying it. 1499 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 1500 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:39,759 Speaker 2: Uh. 1501 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,519 Speaker 1: You know what, You've got to move, You've got to 1502 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 1: move to a better place in your in your home 1503 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 1: so I can hear you better. 1504 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 2: I can. 1505 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm really getting some breakup, So move to a better place. 1506 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 1: I'll come back to you in a moment. Let's go 1507 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,760 Speaker 1: to Sarah and Ventura. Sarah, you're on with Rich. 1508 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 12: I was calling because I have a problem with I 1509 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 12: was trying to head trap off my Internet, and then 1510 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 12: I was logging back into it. And then when I was, 1511 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 12: it said suddenly that it was untrusted. 1512 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 2: What do you mean you turned off your Internet? 1513 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 12: I mean I turned off the router. Why there is 1514 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 12: something happening with it? Like I would be going to 1515 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 12: a page and then it would like kind of scroll 1516 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 12: backwards and go to the main screen like it would 1517 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 12: just It's like someone said, ah, I don't know what 1518 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 12: is it called? When we will? 1519 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 1: So what's happening now? You just you're just you can't 1520 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,439 Speaker 1: serve the Internet on your computer or what? 1521 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,440 Speaker 12: No. I I was trying to log into my Internet, 1522 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 12: and I said it so that it wouldn't log in automatically. 1523 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 12: I have to manually do that. So when I did tried, 1524 01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:00,000 Speaker 12: it said FFL is untrusted. Then on the page inside 1525 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 12: it's said data colon checks slash HTML. 1526 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 1: Why are you I'm confused. Why you need to log 1527 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 1: into your internet at home? 1528 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 2: Is this at home or a home? Okay? And who's 1529 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 2: your internet provider? Okay? 1530 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: And you're turning off Are you turning off your router regularly? 1531 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, because I'm getting some kind of problem with it. 1532 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 12: And after talking to a test who came to here, 1533 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,679 Speaker 12: he said I would check it and see if someone 1534 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 12: is gaining access to. 1535 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 1: Your No, no one's gaining access. I mean turning off 1536 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,879 Speaker 1: your router is okay. But like I've had my Internet 1537 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: in my house for ten years, I've never turned it off. 1538 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, unless there's a power out, there's no reason 1539 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: to turn your internet. And if you're using uh, you 1540 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: know the way that these routers come from Spectrum or 1541 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: any company, they typically have secure passwords, and unless someone 1542 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,759 Speaker 1: is physically gaining access to your house, they're not getting 1543 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 1: on your your internet at home. So I think you 1544 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 1: know what's happening here. 1545 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,320 Speaker 2: It sounds like. 1546 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 1: By turning off your router and making it so you 1547 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 1: have to log into your Internet, it's just causing all 1548 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,080 Speaker 1: kinds of problems. So you might have to pay Spectrum 1549 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 1: to come out there and kind of like reset things 1550 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: if you've changed settings. But it sounds like you've tweaked 1551 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't really need tweaking. These things should just 1552 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,840 Speaker 1: be set it and forget it. If you want to 1553 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 1: secure your Internet, there's two things I recommend. Number one, 1554 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 1: when you come up with your Wi Fi password and SSID, 1555 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: if you're not using the one that Spectrum assigned to you, 1556 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 1: then you can change it. Make sure that that is secure. 1557 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,080 Speaker 1: Make sure it's not something that's easily guessable. If you 1558 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 1: think that your neighbor is trying to latch onto your Internet, 1559 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 1: you can always do what's called hiding the SSID, which 1560 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: if you go into the settings on the router, there 1561 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 1: is an option to make it so that your router 1562 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 1: does not show your work to other computers. In fact, 1563 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,519 Speaker 1: you won't even see it. You have to log in manually. 1564 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't recommend that for like ninety nine point nine 1565 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 1: percent of people unless you are running some sort of 1566 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: like you know, security highly secure network at your house 1567 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,639 Speaker 1: for some reason. Otherwise, I think what I would try 1568 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,720 Speaker 1: to do is just factory reset the router. So there 1569 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 1: should be a push button on there that you can 1570 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 1: press and hold for a very long time and it 1571 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 1: will bring everything back to factory settings. I would do 1572 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,880 Speaker 1: that and turn off your computer, reset your computer. You'll 1573 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 1: have to reconnect your computer and your other devices to 1574 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,439 Speaker 1: this router. But in general, there is no reason to 1575 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: turn off your router. And if you're suspecting that your 1576 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: neighbor is on your router, there's typically a way to 1577 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: log in to your router on the back end using 1578 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 1: the information on the bottom of it and see a 1579 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: list of all of the devices that are currently accessing 1580 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 1: that router. And if you see neighbor Gym's computer on there, 1581 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 1: then you've got a problem. But ninety nine percent of 1582 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 1: the time that is not the case, Sarah. But I 1583 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 1: I would stop resetting the router unless you have like 1584 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 1: an Internet connection issue, like if your powers going out 1585 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot, NAS in Irvine. Uh, you're on with Rich 1586 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,800 Speaker 1: you there? Nas you there? 1587 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 10: Is it better? 1588 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 8: Is it better? 1589 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 2: Yes? Much better? Thank you? 1590 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you so much for your great program. 1591 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 9: Very informative. 1592 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:30,599 Speaker 11: I appreciate it. 1593 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1594 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 11: I have a question regarding TV. 1595 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 8: We have a package with clocks. It's a basic cable. 1596 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 9: A landline phone, and a DVR that you can record 1597 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,560 Speaker 9: our programs and also the internet. 1598 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Do you recommend something else? 1599 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 10: If you don't want to. 1600 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 8: Stay with cocks but have the same page. That's something 1601 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:52,679 Speaker 8: you can record. 1602 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:53,920 Speaker 2: How much are you paying for this? 1603 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 4: I'm paying about two hundred dollars and fluctuates. 1604 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: That's why you're a little bit so yeah. I mean 1605 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:02,760 Speaker 2: that's called the triple play. 1606 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 1: You've got the Internet, you've got the full cable package, 1607 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 1: and you've got your phone through them. About two hundred 1608 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 1: dollars is kind of like you know, the running cost 1609 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 1: for that. And the only way that you could save 1610 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 1: money here is if you switch to a different provider 1611 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: that is in your area and they have you know, 1612 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 1: twelve month promotional pricing fee and like it maybe it's 1613 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,839 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month or something for first twelve months. 1614 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: But the reality is if you stay with cos and 1615 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 1: you just keep the Internet and then you start getting 1616 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: streaming services, number one, your Internet is probably going to 1617 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: be more expensive. You know, they might charge you one 1618 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month for just the Internet, and then 1619 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: you're gonna start getting your streaming services on top of that. 1620 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 1: Netflix is going to be twenty dollars, Disney Plus is 1621 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,599 Speaker 1: gonna be thirteen bucks, Hulu is going to be another 1622 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 1: couple bucks. So there are ways of doing that, but 1623 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,120 Speaker 1: the triple play that you have is probably going to 1624 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: be the cheapest if you like all that stuff. If 1625 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 1: you don't need all that stuff, if you're not watching 1626 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 1: a ton of Bravo and a ton of ESPN a 1627 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,680 Speaker 1: ton of sports, you probably don't need all of that 1628 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 1: cable package. But if you're just gonna go and sign 1629 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,600 Speaker 1: up with these cable packages independently, like if you go 1630 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 1: with YouTube TV or Fubo or any of this stuff, 1631 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna come out to the same price, if 1632 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,120 Speaker 1: not more so. The only way to really save is 1633 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,600 Speaker 1: to get internet only, drop the other two services and 1634 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 1: then bring on a couple of streaming services on top 1635 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,280 Speaker 1: of that. But you're still talking, you know, one hundred 1636 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars if you're doing that. But I would 1637 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: check to see if there's any other providers in your 1638 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,679 Speaker 1: area for the cheaper internet. 1639 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 2: Good question there. 1640 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Nos eighty to eight rich one o one eight eight 1641 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,480 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1642 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich On Tech. 1643 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you at triple eight 1644 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 1: rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to 1645 01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:01,960 Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Free call from anywhere in 1646 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 1: the US. Remember when calls were not free, like in general, 1647 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 1: Like I remember, you used to have to choose a 1648 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: long distance operator, Like remember, MCI, when was the last 1649 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 1: time you heard that spoken out of someone's lips? MCI, 1650 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:19,400 Speaker 1: what's that? 1651 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:19,840 Speaker 8: Oh? 1652 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 13: That was that? 1653 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:21,759 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, bobo. 1654 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 1: They had all these codes you could dial before your 1655 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:30,160 Speaker 1: before your long distance call to like save money. Oh man, 1656 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 1: those were the good old days, right, And you didn't 1657 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,880 Speaker 1: know how much your phone bill was. At the end 1658 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 1: of the month, you would get it and it would 1659 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: just be some random, arbitrary amount. Sometimes it was a lot, 1660 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: sometimes it was a little. 1661 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 2: You just didn't know. 1662 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, people probably got ripped off a 1663 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: whole lot more back then, because who really looked at 1664 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: this stuff and took the time to call in and 1665 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 1: say like, hey, MCI, I'm noticing I got charged eighty 1666 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,839 Speaker 1: five ninety nine for a call to my grandma and Idaho. 1667 01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: And they'd be like, yeah, that's how much it costs 1668 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,879 Speaker 1: to call her for three minutes. You're like, oh, okay, 1669 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 1: I remember the party line we had. This is before 1670 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 1: your time, Bobo, no bobo saying remember this. My grandma 1671 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,879 Speaker 1: had a house like in the middle of like the woods, 1672 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,800 Speaker 1: and you would lift up the phone line and there 1673 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 1: would be someone on the phone line, like a party line. 1674 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 1: You'd share the phone line, like what kind of craziness 1675 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 1: did we grow up with? You could listen to someone 1676 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,360 Speaker 1: else's phone line like conversation what and we're worried about 1677 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff? And to end encryption like no, you 1678 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 1: would just pick up the line and be like, hey, 1679 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 1: are you on? 1680 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1681 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:34,640 Speaker 2: Can you call it? 1682 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 1: Can you like pick up the line in five more minutes, 1683 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,879 Speaker 1: I'll be done? What what kind of Oh my gosh, 1684 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 1: it's fun when you think about this stuff, and this 1685 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 1: is why you've got to talk to your grandparents and 1686 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 1: people and your family and just ask questions, like just 1687 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 1: to ask, you know, if you have a loved one 1688 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 1: around that was around before you, like what what was I. 1689 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 2: Like as a kid? What what was this like? Or what? 1690 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 2: It's just it's so wild, the stuff that just by. 1691 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 1: Exploring and being curious, like even though you think you 1692 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 1: remember all this stuff, you don't, and just by hearing it, 1693 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,240 Speaker 1: sometimes out loud, it just brings back, you know, conjures 1694 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 1: up these memories. Uh, all right, let's get to some 1695 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 1: news items here. Verizon has a bundle with Netflix and 1696 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,479 Speaker 1: Max for ten dollars a month. Verizon's got a new 1697 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: perk for My plan users. You can get an ad 1698 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 1: supported Max and Netflix for ten dollars a month. Sounds great. 1699 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 1: You gotta have an Unlimited Welcome, Unlimited Plus or Unlimited 1700 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: Ultimate plan. It's cheaper than subscribing to both services separately. 1701 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 1: It saves you about seven dollars a month. But here 1702 01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 1: is the thing. This is what I don't like about this. 1703 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 1: I know it's so tempting because these companies want you 1704 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,800 Speaker 1: to bundle. It's kind of like what we were talking 1705 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,720 Speaker 1: about with NAS. It's like bundling saves money, and the 1706 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,920 Speaker 1: cable companies were all about bundling, and now it's the 1707 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 1: cellular companies are all about bundling. But here's the problem. 1708 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 1: When you need to make a change, there's a little 1709 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 1: bit more friction. 1710 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:03,679 Speaker 2: So, for instance, right. 1711 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Now, I've got my Peloton and my Netflix bundled up 1712 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 1: through my wireless provider. Now I don't know when that ends, 1713 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 1: and so what's gonna happen is invariably I'm gonna wake 1714 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: up to a bill for my wireless provider. It's gonna 1715 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 1: be like another two hundred dollars and I'd be like, wait, what, Oh, 1716 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 1: I forgot to change my Peloton and my Netflix and 1717 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 1: whatever promotion I had is gonna expire. So that's why 1718 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 1: they like you to do it is because they are 1719 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 1: now in control. If you don't have this bundle, you 1720 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,920 Speaker 1: can go to Peloton dot com or Max dot com 1721 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 1: and you can easily change things as you need. But 1722 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 1: once things are bundled, it gets a little bit more complicated. 1723 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,960 Speaker 1: And that's it's that tiny bit of friction that companies 1724 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 1: like because you may be able to call the next 1725 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,360 Speaker 1: time after you see that on your bill, but now 1726 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 1: they've just won one extra bill on you, and that 1727 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,439 Speaker 1: one extra bill at ten, fifteen twenty dollars a month 1728 01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 1: times millions of customers is a whole lot of money. 1729 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,600 Speaker 1: So I personally do not like bundling. Even if it 1730 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 1: saves you money in the short term, it may not 1731 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:06,920 Speaker 1: save you money. 1732 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,720 Speaker 2: In the long term. 1733 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:13,800 Speaker 1: Meta launches a free AI image generator called Imagine and 1734 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 1: guess what It's trained on all the pictures you've been 1735 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,080 Speaker 1: uploading to Facebook and Instagram over the years. You knew 1736 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: this was happening. Nothing is really for free. All those 1737 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: pictures you've been uploading to Facebook and Instagram. If they're public, 1738 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 1: they might have trained this AI model called emu EMU. 1739 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,799 Speaker 1: It's trained on one point one billion Facebook and Instagram 1740 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,720 Speaker 1: user photos. You can try this out if you go 1741 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 1: to Imagine dot Meta dot com. You have to log 1742 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,360 Speaker 1: in with your Facebook account. You can type in whatever 1743 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 1: you want it to create, plane flying over cotton, candy clouds, 1744 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,439 Speaker 1: and it'll create four images for you, all for free. 1745 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,680 Speaker 1: But if you notice that that picture looks like your 1746 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 1: old girlfriend or you know someone in your family that 1747 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 1: you uploaded earlier, make no mistake, it's because they train 1748 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 1: this AI model on these user uploaded pictures. Now, I'm 1749 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,200 Speaker 1: just kidding, you're probably not going to find a picture 1750 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 1: that looks like someone you know. But the reality is 1751 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,960 Speaker 1: when you are not paying for something, your data is 1752 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 1: the payment, and that's what happens here. Now I'm not 1753 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 1: saying this is bad, it's kind of what's happening. All 1754 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,759 Speaker 1: these AI image generators have to be trained on something, 1755 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are just scraping images from 1756 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,320 Speaker 1: the web. But Meta had people upload a lot of 1757 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,479 Speaker 1: stuff over the years that they can use for this. 1758 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: And by the way, you probably tagged your images too, 1759 01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,040 Speaker 1: with different things like descriptions, like maybe you uploaded a 1760 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,639 Speaker 1: pizza and you said, oh, best pepperoni pizza from Sal's 1761 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 1: Pizzeria in Hoboken, And now they know exactly what that 1762 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 1: pizza looks like because you've described exactly. 1763 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 2: What that image contains. Very very smart. 1764 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,719 Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, we're going to talk accessibility, 1765 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 1: Microsoft's new app, Apple's personal voice feature, and a new 1766 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,600 Speaker 1: controller from PlayStation. It's all coming up right here on 1767 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:12,080 Speaker 1: the rich On Tech Radio show. Rich Demiro here hanging 1768 01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at Triple eight rich one 1769 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 1: oh one eighty eight seven four to two four one 1770 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: zero one. If you have some feedback for the show 1771 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 1: we'll get it in the feedback segment later on. Send 1772 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 1: it in right now on the website Richontech dot tv. 1773 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Hit contact if you want to get your voice in 1774 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 1: on the show. Tell me what's good, what's bad, what 1775 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,320 Speaker 1: you like or anything you want to comment about. All right, 1776 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 1: let's bring on Steven Aquino, freelance tech journalist covers accessibility 1777 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:49,360 Speaker 1: and assist of technologies for outlets like Forbes. Steven, welcome 1778 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:54,639 Speaker 1: to the show. Hey there, I am doing great. Thanks 1779 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,639 Speaker 1: for joining me today. So tell me about your interest 1780 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,240 Speaker 1: in covering accessibility. 1781 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,880 Speaker 2: How did that come about? 1782 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,080 Speaker 12: Sure, well, it. 1783 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:16,040 Speaker 13: Really comes about because I was born freame much really 1784 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 13: and I have a whole host of us the build 1785 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,160 Speaker 13: what it is that I've dealt with my entire life, 1786 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:33,320 Speaker 13: and you know it. They have affect how I use 1787 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 13: you know, everything, and that includes technology. So I just 1788 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:46,040 Speaker 13: want to show people that not everybody uses technology in 1789 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 13: the same way. 1790 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,520 Speaker 1: And that is very true. And I think that technology 1791 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:55,519 Speaker 1: has actually been a great you know, it's helped a 1792 01:32:55,560 --> 01:33:00,759 Speaker 1: lot of people with varying of abilities do things because 1793 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, you've got stuff like larger text on screens, readers, 1794 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:09,240 Speaker 1: all this stuff that has really I think done a lot. 1795 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 1: So let's talk first about this Seeing AI app. It's 1796 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,800 Speaker 1: now available and Android. This is from Microsoft, and this 1797 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:19,040 Speaker 1: app narrates the world for the blind and low vision. 1798 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 1: It can read text, it can identify products and describe photos. 1799 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 2: So what do you make of this app? Have you 1800 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 2: used it? 1801 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:29,800 Speaker 1: I have not. 1802 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 13: I definitely reheard it and what it is is like 1803 01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:45,320 Speaker 13: just as you were saying, it basically helps people like 1804 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:50,719 Speaker 13: me who have low eye sight or no vision you've 1805 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:55,840 Speaker 13: been at all, to be able to identify by objects 1806 01:33:55,960 --> 01:34:01,240 Speaker 13: or even you know, other humans, you know in the 1807 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:02,759 Speaker 13: real world. 1808 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is now available on Android. It used 1809 01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 1: to just be on iOS, so that is available now 1810 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:13,920 Speaker 1: from Microsoft. It's called Seeing AI and it's available in 1811 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 1: eighteen languages. It's free to use, and you know, it's 1812 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,679 Speaker 1: a great thing that you can aim it at something 1813 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 1: and have it read text, identify an object, or describe 1814 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:27,519 Speaker 1: a picture. And it's also I guess they improved a 1815 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 1: little bit because they brought it to Android. They've got 1816 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,439 Speaker 1: richer descriptions of photos and you can also kind of 1817 01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,720 Speaker 1: go back and forth with documents a little bit, so 1818 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 1: it does use some AI there. 1819 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 2: Let's talk about this feature on iOS. 1820 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 1: It's called Personal Voice and basically you can record. This 1821 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 1: is for folks that are at risk of losing their voice, 1822 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 1: and you can record your voice and kind of save 1823 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,960 Speaker 1: it for later. 1824 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 2: What do you make of that feature? 1825 01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:58,759 Speaker 8: Sure, so. 1826 01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 13: This feature isn't intended for When it first came out, 1827 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 13: Apple said that they worked with people at the l 1828 01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:29,599 Speaker 13: the teams patients helping people with als, and the whole 1829 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:36,760 Speaker 13: idea here is that at some point someone with a 1830 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:44,439 Speaker 13: LS is gonna lose their build goody to speak. So 1831 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:50,559 Speaker 13: the idea with this software is that you record I 1832 01:35:50,600 --> 01:36:01,440 Speaker 13: think it's fifteen minutes of spoken text through your and then. 1833 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,360 Speaker 2: The software will. 1834 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:13,120 Speaker 13: Forward that and you'll be able to talk using your 1835 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:14,799 Speaker 13: own voice. 1836 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is like in you know, if you 1837 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 1: have a a you know, a system that would do 1838 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 1: a generic kind of computerized voice. Now you can actually 1839 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,800 Speaker 1: type something and speak it in your own voice, which 1840 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:33,080 Speaker 1: is pretty incredible just how far we've come with that technology, 1841 01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 1: especially since it's available on the iPhone. I did try 1842 01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,880 Speaker 1: this out and it did take It took a little 1843 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,800 Speaker 1: bit longer than I thought, Like, you can't just do 1844 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,840 Speaker 1: this like quickly, Like you have to be able to 1845 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,880 Speaker 1: have some time to sit down and record this. But uh, 1846 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,960 Speaker 1: you know again, if you are at risk of losing 1847 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,640 Speaker 1: your voice due to some sort of illness like als, 1848 01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,759 Speaker 1: that is something that is an option. Now all right, finally, 1849 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: let's talk about this PlayStation controller. This is a new 1850 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,559 Speaker 1: accessible controlller for PlayStation five. It looks like you wrote 1851 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,280 Speaker 1: about this for Forbes, right. 1852 01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:11,240 Speaker 13: I did. I brod buttered a lot. 1853 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,479 Speaker 1: So what. 1854 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:24,360 Speaker 13: This is is is it's a specially designed roller for 1855 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:33,400 Speaker 13: people who for some reason can't use the stock roller 1856 01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:39,360 Speaker 13: that comes with the system. So what it is is 1857 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,800 Speaker 13: it's you've got its own shape and everything, and you 1858 01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 13: can like swap out the different buttons and the sticks 1859 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,000 Speaker 13: on the controller, and there's a whole lot you can 1860 01:37:54,040 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 13: do in software to sort of uh break your own 1861 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 13: like super controlled the Blue as it were, because you 1862 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 13: can like hailor it to your you know how you 1863 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,840 Speaker 13: have to have. 1864 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,880 Speaker 1: It so your abilities. It's configurable in a lot of 1865 01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,679 Speaker 1: different ways. And also, you know, the main point here 1866 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 1: is that one size does not fit all when it 1867 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,840 Speaker 1: comes to controllers, Like if you have varying abilities or 1868 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,559 Speaker 1: a disability, you know, you can program this and and 1869 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,960 Speaker 1: kind of orient it in the way that you need. 1870 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,240 Speaker 1: So there's a whole bunch of stuff that you can do, 1871 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,760 Speaker 1: and it's just a really great way to open up 1872 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,200 Speaker 1: gaming to a wider audience. 1873 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:41,679 Speaker 2: Do you think this is going to be a good thing? 1874 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, uh greaming technology switchy is really important 1875 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 14: and it says a whole lot that these huge com. 1876 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:57,160 Speaker 8: For these. 1877 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 13: Like Sony have you know, had time and effort to 1878 01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,280 Speaker 13: do this because uh, you know, as you were saying, 1879 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 13: it really fixed their games you know, accessible to to 1880 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,879 Speaker 13: a to a audience. 1881 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is available for the PlayStation five. I've 1882 01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,840 Speaker 1: also been at Microsoft events. They have a lot of 1883 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 1: accessible kind of like, they have a lot of pushes 1884 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,960 Speaker 1: into this accessibility idea, and so does Apple, and so 1885 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,040 Speaker 1: does Google. So it really is amazing what these tech 1886 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,800 Speaker 1: companies have done for bringing technology to more people and 1887 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 1: allowing more people to do things in the way that 1888 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,920 Speaker 1: works for them. Steven Akino, thanks so much for joining 1889 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,479 Speaker 1: me today. I really appreciate it. 1890 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 12: Great Rich. 1891 01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,320 Speaker 13: You for having me, sir. 1892 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,800 Speaker 1: All right, find them online Steven Akino on Forbes. You 1893 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,640 Speaker 1: can find them also on x and read uh and 1894 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:04,240 Speaker 1: keep up on all of the accessibility and diversity options 1895 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 1: that are out there with technology. 1896 01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 2: All right, thanks for joining me today. Let's uh, Oh, 1897 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:09,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna go to break. 1898 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go to break and we'll come back and 1899 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,280 Speaker 1: we'll do the feedback segment. Oh my gosh, that means 1900 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,280 Speaker 1: it's almost the end of the show. Get those emails 1901 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 1: in rich on tech dot TV, hit contact if you 1902 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:27,760 Speaker 1: want yours right on the air. Welcome back to rich 1903 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:32,680 Speaker 1: On Tech time for the Oh well, we're gonna get 1904 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 1: to feedbag. And yes, I decided I think it is 1905 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:42,120 Speaker 1: a feedback segment. Because this is what I've decided. It's feedback, 1906 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,600 Speaker 1: but it's also mail bag. So the feedback plus the 1907 01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:52,080 Speaker 1: mail bag is feedbag. All right, let's get through a 1908 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,919 Speaker 1: couple of stories before we get to the feedbag. 1909 01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:55,439 Speaker 2: YouTube Premium. 1910 01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,840 Speaker 1: If you're paying for YouTube premium and you were grandfathered in, 1911 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 1: well your price is going up in January. So if 1912 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 1: you're paying seven ninety nine a month or nine to 1913 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 1: ninety nine a month, those are both grandfathered in, you 1914 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,479 Speaker 1: will be paying thirteen ninety nine a month, effective on 1915 01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:14,720 Speaker 1: in January twenty twenty four, so next month. So it 1916 01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,200 Speaker 1: was delayed. This was announced back in July, so don't 1917 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 1: get mad at me. This was something that was announced 1918 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,559 Speaker 1: for many months now. But you were grandfathered in, which 1919 01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,439 Speaker 1: is pretty rare these days. Most of the time when 1920 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,479 Speaker 1: these companies are announcing price hikes, it's like effective with 1921 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,439 Speaker 1: your next billing cycle. So the fact that you got 1922 01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 1: six months, you know you should be thanking me. 1923 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,360 Speaker 2: No, it's not me that's doing it. 1924 01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 1: Threads has added hashtags, but they don't call them hashtags, 1925 01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:43,599 Speaker 1: and they don't have the pound sign or the hashtag 1926 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,120 Speaker 1: sign whatever you however you look at it, So they 1927 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,800 Speaker 1: call hashtags tags. They're clickable blue links, not the traditional 1928 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:56,600 Speaker 1: hashtag symbol. You can add one tag per post. The 1929 01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: feature was rolled out and it's kind of confusing because 1930 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,760 Speaker 1: why did they change a good thing. 1931 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,240 Speaker 2: We all know what hashtags are. 1932 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 1: Every single online website uses hashtags, but not threads. 1933 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 2: They use tags. I don't like it. 1934 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,800 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts arrives on Tesla next week. If you have 1935 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 1: a Tesla, you're gonna get a holiday software update and 1936 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,320 Speaker 1: you will have Apple Podcasts, which is kind of nice. 1937 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,800 Speaker 1: They added Apple Music last year. It does not work 1938 01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 1: very well. I will tell you that hopefully this will 1939 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,720 Speaker 1: be better. Apple music is very, very slow and just 1940 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,719 Speaker 1: not very good at least in my experience in the Tesla. 1941 01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,720 Speaker 1: But Apple Podcasts it'll be nice to have. So you 1942 01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,640 Speaker 1: can listen to the show Rich on Tech. Search it 1943 01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,719 Speaker 1: up and if you'd like to listen to the podcast, 1944 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,000 Speaker 1: you can do it in your Tesla. As of next week, 1945 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 1: if you have a pixel phone, two things one thing 1946 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 1: to do. There is a new feature where it will 1947 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 1: send critical data to first responders. You can share medical 1948 01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,760 Speaker 1: info and emergency contacts with nine one one. 1949 01:42:58,800 --> 01:42:59,040 Speaker 2: Now. 1950 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 1: This is on the pixel phone in the personal safety 1951 01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,400 Speaker 1: app Pixel has or I guess they've somehow. There's a 1952 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,719 Speaker 1: partnership with this rapid SOS company which sends medical info 1953 01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,840 Speaker 1: to the first responders. But it's been available on iPhone forever. 1954 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: I did a story with this years ago, but now 1955 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 1: it's finally coming to Android, starting with the Personal Safety 1956 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 1: App on Pixel. So if you go to open up 1957 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 1: the Personal Safety app, your info emergency info access share 1958 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,280 Speaker 1: during emergency. 1959 01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:29,720 Speaker 2: Call, turn that on. 1960 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 1: That way, if you ever have to die on nine 1961 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,639 Speaker 1: one one, it'll send more information. And Jimmy Stewart has 1962 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 1: a new bedtime story inside the call map. How is 1963 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:39,919 Speaker 1: that possible? 1964 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 2: You ask? 1965 01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,280 Speaker 1: It's AI generated. They took Jimmy Stewart's voice, they recreated it, 1966 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,160 Speaker 1: and now he's reading. It's a wonderful sleep story. It's 1967 01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,600 Speaker 1: a story about love, lost, hope and joy. Sounds like 1968 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,600 Speaker 1: my life. 1969 01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:54,680 Speaker 2: Most of it. 1970 01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,320 Speaker 1: Stuart's family was okay with this. The AI voi was 1971 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:04,640 Speaker 1: created by a company called Respeecher. It's pretty good. I 1972 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,400 Speaker 1: listened to the little clip they put online and I 1973 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,679 Speaker 1: got goosebumps because Jimmy Stewart is no longer with us, 1974 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,559 Speaker 1: yet somehow he is now reading a new story. 1975 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:14,600 Speaker 2: It's quite incredible. 1976 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,280 Speaker 1: I know it's controversial because people, you know, some people 1977 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:22,320 Speaker 1: say you're exploiting these actors that have passed away. But 1978 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,120 Speaker 1: if their a state is okay with it, I guess 1979 01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 1: it's fine. But anyway, you have to be a calm 1980 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,840 Speaker 1: subscriber to hear the whole thing. All right, let's get 1981 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 1: to feedback. Bert says, please quit saying everyone hates X. Clearly, 1982 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,640 Speaker 1: if you're getting a lot of interaction, everyone doesn't hate it. 1983 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,000 Speaker 1: The beautiful thing is that you can get on X 1984 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,040 Speaker 1: and say everyone hates X, and that's fine because free 1985 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,839 Speaker 1: speech is alive and well on that platform. Thanks to Elon, 1986 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,280 Speaker 1: the guy responsible for the car you love. Great show, 1987 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:51,479 Speaker 1: minus the fake news. 1988 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,840 Speaker 2: Bert. Thanks Bert, there's no fake news on this show. 1989 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,760 Speaker 1: Gary says, Hey, Rick, Rick, I love when people call 1990 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,000 Speaker 1: me because I've never called myself Rick, but so many 1991 01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:02,840 Speaker 1: people call me Rick. 1992 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,880 Speaker 2: I like the radio show you do, Leo proud. 1993 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 1: I purchased a one plus phone on Amazon and it's 1994 01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 1: locked to T Mobile. Is there a legal way to 1995 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 1: remove the carrier lock? I'll be returning this. If there's 1996 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 1: not an easy way to remove this, Gary, go to 1997 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:20,520 Speaker 1: the unlocker dot com. The unlocker with Noe dot Com 1998 01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:26,400 Speaker 1: and he specializes in all things unlocking phones. Yes, you 1999 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 1: can unlock a phone. Just keep in mind it may 2000 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,720 Speaker 1: not work on every network, so it'll probably work on 2001 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,439 Speaker 1: T Mobile AT and T. It may not work on 2002 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,160 Speaker 1: Verizon if you unlock it. You just have to be 2003 01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,599 Speaker 1: careful with that. Bruce says, I want to recommend fuel 2004 01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:43,000 Speaker 1: Rod rechargeable. I'm biased as I'm a maintenance tech that 2005 01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 1: services the kiosks here in San Diego. No complaints, Charge 2006 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,479 Speaker 1: it at home, or swap it for a used rod 2007 01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,320 Speaker 1: for a fully charged one for one buck. Love your show, 2008 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:52,599 Speaker 1: Bruce and San Diego. 2009 01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:53,479 Speaker 2: Bruce. 2010 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,200 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a couple of these companies around with kiosks 2011 01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,080 Speaker 1: that lets you get one of these portable batteries. It's 2012 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,439 Speaker 1: very nice when you see them because you feel like 2013 01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,599 Speaker 1: you can use your phone and if worse comes to worse, 2014 01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,680 Speaker 1: you go to the vending machine, you pop out one 2015 01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,640 Speaker 1: of these portable batteries you can charge your phone. The 2016 01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 1: main thing is most of them you do have to 2017 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,720 Speaker 1: return at some point. But I've seen them all over 2018 01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,200 Speaker 1: the place. I've seen fuel Rod for sure. I did 2019 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,640 Speaker 1: a story with another company that plays these things and 2020 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:22,720 Speaker 1: it's a big business. Pine says constructive criticism from a fan. 2021 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,920 Speaker 1: As I start this week this Monday, your segment comes on, 2022 01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,599 Speaker 1: I put down my coffee because I'm a fan. I'm 2023 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,160 Speaker 1: only disappointed by you showing the same report you did 2024 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 1: on your Saturday radio show. It's happened many times. I 2025 01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you're lazy or they don't pay you enough, 2026 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 1: but it's annoying. I don't want to troll because I'm 2027 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 1: a fan. Can you fix this or at least tell 2028 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 1: me to avoid watching both shows? Okay, I think you're 2029 01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,719 Speaker 1: referring to the fact that I overlap. Like on the radio, 2030 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:49,680 Speaker 1: I will do an interview with someone that I then 2031 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:50,559 Speaker 1: show on TV. 2032 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,040 Speaker 2: These are two different mediums. Radio. 2033 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,920 Speaker 1: If you notice, the interviews are much longer, so you're 2034 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,840 Speaker 1: getting kind of a deeper dive. TV the stories are 2035 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,760 Speaker 1: two minutes, so I think it's called synergy. 2036 01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:04,759 Speaker 2: Like today we had the electric boat. 2037 01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,559 Speaker 1: If you like the electric boat that you heard about 2038 01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,880 Speaker 1: on this week on TV, you're going to see that 2039 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:14,000 Speaker 1: electric boat segment. It's not laziness. And no nobody ever 2040 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 1: pays anyone enough, do they. No, people always want more, 2041 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,599 Speaker 1: So it's not about laziness. It's just I think it's 2042 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 1: great that you can hear the story on the radio 2043 01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,360 Speaker 1: and learn more. Oh David has a reply to this. 2044 01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm older and not very tech savvy, but willing to learn. 2045 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,719 Speaker 1: I find you interesting and informative. I listen on Fox 2046 01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,559 Speaker 1: fifty nine in Indianapolis. So David David likes the reports 2047 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:40,400 Speaker 1: on TV. Let's see what else do we have here? 2048 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:45,000 Speaker 1: So many things? Oh my god, these just keep going 2049 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:49,760 Speaker 1: on and on and on. Okay, uh, let's see. Hi, Rich, 2050 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 1: I love your show and podcasts. I want to make 2051 01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,840 Speaker 1: a custom wall calendar for my hiking club, but I 2052 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,599 Speaker 1: want members of the club to be able to order 2053 01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,160 Speaker 1: their own copies. There are many companies that will let 2054 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:02,360 Speaker 1: me make a calendar, but the problem is to order it. 2055 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 2: Everyone needs to use my account. 2056 01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away my account number and 2057 01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 1: password so they can order the calendar that I create. 2058 01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,760 Speaker 1: Is there a company that allows me to share my 2059 01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: work so my company my friends can print the calendar, Dan, Dan, 2060 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,799 Speaker 1: I think that Canva will handle this situation. So Canva 2061 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:23,679 Speaker 1: dot com. You create your calendar on Canva. You share 2062 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,280 Speaker 1: the link to that calendar with the people who want 2063 01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,240 Speaker 1: to order it. They can then sign in, they can 2064 01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,040 Speaker 1: do whatever tweaks they want. They want to add their 2065 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 1: birthdays to the calendar, and then they can print it 2066 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,040 Speaker 1: out using their account and their phone number. So that's 2067 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,600 Speaker 1: what I would recommend. Canva dot com is incredible. The 2068 01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,120 Speaker 1: problem is with Canva, a lot of it you might 2069 01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,920 Speaker 1: have to pay for, like the design you want. It's 2070 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,200 Speaker 1: like it's a free it's a freemium kind of account thing. 2071 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,920 Speaker 1: So just know that if you use things that cost 2072 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:56,040 Speaker 1: money inside there, like the things with Little Star, people 2073 01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:57,479 Speaker 1: are gonna have to pay to print that out. 2074 01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,240 Speaker 2: All right, if you can believe it, that's going to 2075 01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:00,439 Speaker 2: do it. 2076 01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,719 Speaker 1: For this episode of the show, you can find links 2077 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,720 Speaker 1: to everything I mentioned on my website. Just go to 2078 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,519 Speaker 1: rich on tech dot tv for the show notes. You 2079 01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,599 Speaker 1: can also go to rich on tech dot tv slash 2080 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,800 Speaker 1: wiki to see all of the show notes from over 2081 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,639 Speaker 1: the last year. You can find me on social media. 2082 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 1: I am at rich on tech. Next week some great guests. 2083 01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:21,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk eBay with the person who has sold 2084 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 1: two million books about eBay, so we're gonna talk about 2085 01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,599 Speaker 1: eBay tips and tricks. Plus a really cool website guy 2086 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 1: runs a website with all kinds of spy accessories, so 2087 01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,120 Speaker 1: that's really fun. Thanks so much for listening. There are 2088 01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:36,120 Speaker 1: so many ways you can spend your time. I do 2089 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks to 2090 01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:43,040 Speaker 1: everyone who makes this show possible. Bill, Bobo, Kim. My 2091 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,000 Speaker 1: name is Richdmiro. I will talk to you real soon