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Speaker 4: It's time to be.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's Friday. We're alive, right, we ain't got

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Speaker 2: damn combat sports show of all time, now on Fridays,

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Speaker 2: paid for on Fridays, but still free to you. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Friday, November twenty second, twenty twenty four. This is

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't know where I'm going

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Speaker 2: with that. But my name is Brian. It's nice to

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Speaker 2: smells like the city. It's Luke Thomas. Great to see you, Luke.

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Speaker 1: My showering is infrequent as a work from home guy.

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Speaker 1: Guiltiest charged, guiltiest charged. Why don't you tell everybody how

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Speaker 1: you're feeling this morning? Captain drinking.

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Speaker 2: Caught a hanger? But you know, we move on, We adapt.

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Speaker 1: We had just before you move on? What was the

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Speaker 1: drink of choice last night? What was the drinker choice?

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Speaker 1: I p A is Luke, you know, okay, well hold on,

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Speaker 1: you have to mean like clarify, I like, like what.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know double New England style? I pas?

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Speaker 1: How many you? How many of you? Because you put down?

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know this is not a topic

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm playing Roulette every time I take a

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Speaker 1: I understand. Step That's what it's like for me going

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Speaker 2: And like Stipe at the end, you're relieved to announce

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Speaker 2: thank you to all these listeners and viewers and however

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Speaker 2: for staying with us, still fight and still bringing it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Luke, we're one day away from Big

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Speaker 2: aj of the Costco guys having his ae W comeback

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Speaker 2: Okay was a big a. The dad of this father

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Speaker 2: of your wife wearing our march over there on fan

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Speaker 2: Card Minutes podcast proprietor Long Island. How are you feeling today?

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Speaker 5: I'm feeling a lot better after that Londromat story.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you, Long Island. Look, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 6: We call it Main Card Minute for a reason. We're

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Speaker 5: Still I'll be up at five, but yeah, only doing

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm not getting up at three, but

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Speaker 2: The beginning at three am. The first eight fights on

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Speaker 2: off the top, and it is topic number one, and

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know, we judge these

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Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley loses, Morob wins, Okay, nimer Goa Maydov was

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Speaker 2: Dude, this rules, This is a mifight is awesome.

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Speaker 2: be thrilling and all action and incredible. But Luke, I

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Speaker 2: Peyota Yan a minus three ten I set a slight

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure he ever left. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 6: Like when I thought about this fight on paper, before

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Speaker 5: Maybe a pick um, Maybe Figgy's a slight favorite.

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Speaker 6: When I saw that Figgy was a huge dog, I

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Speaker 6: He's three and oh at bantamweight. We mentioned it already.

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Speaker 1: This is where I come thinking long on Luke. This

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Figgy is the same guy skill

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Speaker 1: This is the only cat I've ever seen that just

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Speaker 2: I mean he's willing, but yeah, there you go. Thank you, Reggie.

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Speaker 1: Can we get to He was like, tell me how

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, look at Yan, Yan's not

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Speaker 2: Than probably the more fair answer in terms of interpreting that.

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Speaker 1: But also, my man, Yan needs to visit needs to

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Speaker 2: All right, Yan's still about I mean it's not out

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Speaker 1: Though, yes, yes, absolutely. This is why before this fight

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Speaker 1: quality fighter. I do think he's on the down side

432
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: of his career. He's still dangerous. But that win is valuable,

433
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: but not like overly, you know, drastically important. The Garbrant

434
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: win was nice because it was UFC three hundred he

435
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: polished him off in the second round, nearly did it

436
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: earlier in the round and had to readjust and get

437
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: it later by going from the head norm triangle to

438
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: the rear naked choke, and then the Vera win to

439
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: me was the most impressive one because he got two

440
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: takedowns in the first round, a knockdown in the third round,

441
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: and more or less kind of won the fight everywhere

442
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: but the knock on that would be that's the same

443
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: cheeto coming off of the beating that Sean O'Malley gave him,

444
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 1: and was exactly the same after that. So this is

445
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: why Yad is such a step up. Again, it's not

446
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: crazy to me that he's the favorite, but I just

447
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: don't want to lose sight of the fact that, hey,

448
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: three wins. I mean, this is the reality. He's technically

449
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: on point at Bantaway talking about Figuredo, he physically is

450
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: on point both in the striking and the grappling. He's

451
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: got a finish and has basically dominated the other fights

452
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: along the way. There's a lot of reason for great

453
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: optimism for what Figaredo has done obviously and now can

454
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: do going on to Saturday.

455
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it, and I think we've kind

456
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: of explained why the odds are the way they are

457
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: the more that we talked about this, Luke, I think

458
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: what you teased earlier is a real realistic, excuse me situation.

459
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: What if Yon is able to consistently stuff Figuredo's advancements

460
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: to the ground and this does become potentially a five

461
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: round kickboxing match. Is Figaredo potentially in trouble in that

462
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: scenario or can he do what he's done at times,

463
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: which is slow down the pace and land the bigger,

464
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: giant counter shots to really stand out in close back

465
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 2: and forth trading. Maybe Yan will have that advantage if

466
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 2: we go to full kickboxing here.

467
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think Yon is much more clever on

468
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: the feet at range, so like if Figgy is standing

469
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: around or it gets placed there or loses concentration for

470
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: a moment, Jan is very very clever about putting things

471
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: together good to the body, good trips, good throws. That's

472
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: the part I wonder about, Like to what extent he'll

473
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: use that because that also aids his stand up game,

474
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: But even without that, I think he'll be just fine.

475
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: Or you know, generally speaking, yes, this is for Figaredo.

476
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: You got to get Yon. I mean let's let's let's

477
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: ask this, like what does Figuredo? What conditions does he

478
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: have to establish to win? And by that, I mean

479
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: assuming you don't like, you know, he makes a mistake

480
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: and you get his back, Like, what do you have

481
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: to do? He has to be under duress in terms

482
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: of understanding how much grappling he has to deal with,

483
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: because if you are Figuredo, you just have to believe that,

484
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: like the cost to the grappling in this particular scenario

485
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: is going to be that the expenditure of energy. Is

486
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: it a waste of time? Are you able to get

487
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: dominant position? Are you able to keep it that kind

488
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: of a thing. But not in terms of like him

489
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: getting the better of you in the grappling, right, I

490
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: mean even if he lands on top, dude, FIGI is

491
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: going to work. I suspect that Yan wants no part

492
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: of that. And so you have to if you're Figuredo,

493
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: that has to be embedded into Yon's mind with pressure,

494
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: with both strikes and takedowns or backtakes or attempted backtakes

495
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: or whatever scrambles. You have to make him very hesitant.

496
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: And if you can do that, the world is your oyster.

497
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: But it's kyodo Yan. Good luck, you're gonna need it.

498
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: Both fighters made Waight one thirty five for Figuraedo one

499
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: thirty five and a half for Yon. I've loved seeing

500
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: Yan back in the media cycle. He looks confident, funny

501
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: as always. He's speaking English at a better stretch than

502
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: I've ever seen from him. I saw him in his

503
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: sit down with Shaquille Majori over there on the Shaq

504
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: MMA channel. So you're still texting you, uh not currently,

505
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: but I get you know, I'm down with Shaq. I mean,

506
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: the guy does like ed M a lot, Luke a lot.

507
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: No, nobody actually likes d M. It's a mental disorder.

508
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: That's wow. Okay, that was that was a that was

509
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: a shot fired. Wow. Uh Luke. When it comes time

510
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: to figuring out who wins, right here, we've laid out

511
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: how Yon, how Yan can certainly do it. What you got,

512
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: you got a sneaky path to victory here. For for Figgy,

513
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: what do you got in terms of what goes down

514
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: five rounds Saturday morning.

515
00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: If I'm Figgy, and I mean this quite sincerely, I

516
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: if he is unable to really make a if he

517
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: is unable to capture the back for any meaningful period

518
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: of time in this fight, or obviously I will grant

519
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: getting Yon flat to the mat with his back. I

520
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: think that's less likely, doable, but less likely. But really

521
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: what I think is you have to make him hand

522
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: and knee down, you have to hold You have to

523
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: be able to capture the back and then hold it,

524
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, for meaningful periods of time. If he

525
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: is unable to do that, I think his chances diminished

526
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: pretty significantly. The thing is, I just think at some

527
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: point he will be able to capture the back. The

528
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: unknown to me is to what extent he will be

529
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: able to keep it or make effective use of it.

530
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Does he just hold on like a Koala bear and

531
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: not do anything, or is he really threatening subs, you know,

532
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: taking them mount pounding on him. That kind of a thing.

533
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: That to me is really the fault line where the

534
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: fight is won and lost. Jean will give up his

535
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: back a lot in scrambles, which is a nightmare problem

536
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: against a guy like Figi. So so that to me,

537
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: of all the battles, I mean, there's many battles, but

538
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: that to me is the central one because if that

539
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: fails for Figgy, all the other problems become they cascade

540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: into one another. But if you can meaningfully use that,

541
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: everything else now has some oxygen breathed into it, that's

542
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: your central fault line to pay attention to.

543
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: All Right, I got Yan too. I think this one

544
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: goes the distance. It's gonna be fun as hell to see. Ultimately,

545
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: I'll take Phigg.

546
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry to be ce. I apologize. I apologize

547
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: so much. I'll take Figgy. I'll take a flyer on Figgi.

548
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, wow. So I was gonna ask you what

549
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: Yan had to do to secure the next title shot?

550
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: What does the winner have to do to cut the line?

551
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: Cut off uh Umar and get this opportunity.

552
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: The calendar plays a big role because now we're not

553
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: gonna get Usman in a title fight before Ramadan. If

554
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Morob wants to get out there and they can make

555
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: it in the calendar, then you know the win of

556
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: this bout obviously is gonna be your top candidate. I

557
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: do think Figgy can get a title shot from this obviously,

558
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Right you beat Yon? I mean at that point Huben,

559
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: font Garbaret Vera and Yon. Yeah, yeah, I give that

560
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: guy a title shot, especially if he's ready now. And

561
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: by the way clock's ticking on him, He's not a

562
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: spring chicken. To the point you raised earlier, if Yan wins,

563
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it would only be two in a row. But I'll

564
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: say this, if Yon finishes FIGUREDO, give that man a

565
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: title shot. I'd be totally okay with that. But the

566
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: problem is this, do you really want I mean, I

567
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: had to to prepare for Morob and Sean. I went

568
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: back and I watched the Morob and Yon fi do.

569
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: Yon just got thrashed, not like beaten up, but he

570
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: got thrashed.

571
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: He got spammed. Yeah.

572
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, do you want to see that again?

573
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Like Figgy is like, oh, take me down, fuck face,

574
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: take me down. See what happens that kind of I

575
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: don't know what kind.

576
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: Of fun Figgy has that plus ability to make big

577
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: things happen in big moments when you don't expect it too.

578
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: So that is a sort of a clutch explosive gene

579
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: in him. You had mentioned Usman before. I assumed you

580
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: were talking about Umar, though, right when you're talking about

581
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: Narmaga made off.

582
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sorry, you're so right. I yes, I met Umar,

583
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: not the PFLO tour Fighter.

584
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: But that guy's great, just the same, all right, let's

585
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: get into this co main event, Luke, and with six

586
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: wins in her last seven fights and that only loss,

587
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: by the way, a split decision, Tabitha Ricci is making

588
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: a move. Do you think it's fair to say in

589
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: this matchup that the UFC is trying to see whether

590
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: baby Shark can push yourself into the top five when

591
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: they give her thirty five year old Yan Shannan, who

592
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: is fresh off that title loss to Jungway Lee.

593
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: So I think so, I think so. Obviously Ricci is

594
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: what thirty twenty nine? Ricci is thirty nine twenty nine,

595
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: twenty nine, Okay, I was like, yeah, Jesus, I was like,

596
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: my math must be off, and I think Jan Channan obviously,

597
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: I think thirty five years of age. This is about

598
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: finding out what Tabitha Ricci's got, whether she can be

599
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: something in this division. She's had a good run, not

600
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: a great run to this point. She's obviously coming off

601
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: the Pennington and then Hill that's not Raquel, that would

602
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: be obviously her spouse, and then the Hill win, and

603
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: so those are good wins, those are very good wins.

604
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: She did lose to go Dinez, but then she had

605
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: some wins before that they were also pretty good. Can

606
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: wrestle a little bit. If you look at her numbers BC,

607
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: she averages two point nine to nine, so basically three

608
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: takedowns per fifteen minutes. I mean she's good for one round.

609
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: That's important, that's dominant, that's great control, that's something you're

610
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna want. However, on the striking side, she absorbs five

611
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: point three to the four point six that she lands,

612
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: so she's got a negative differential. This is what I mean.

613
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: They're giving her somebody who can strike, who has shown

614
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I think better takedown defensive late. Although obviously in her

615
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: last loss Againstean Way Lee On Shanna got run over

616
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: there too, But in general, an experienced fighter in this

617
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: division with a striking proclivity, it gives us some sense

618
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: of who's coming or going, what kind of individual battles

619
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: are you able to win to what extent? Can you

620
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: demonstrate growth in areas of need. It's good matchmaking. I

621
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: actually kind of like this fight, but I just want

622
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: to be clear, I am not sold on Tabithy Ricci

623
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: as a title contender, yet I do recognize she is good,

624
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: and I do recognize that she's getting better. I genuinely

625
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: believe that, but I've not yet seen like crystal clear

626
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: evidence of that plus ability where you know, even in Blanchfield,

627
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: who's had some setbacks that went against Androge, there was

628
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: some real questions about her willingness to take too much damage.

629
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: But the fact that she just might like bit down

630
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: on the mouthpiece through it and kind of ran her

631
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: over a little bit, that is plus ability for me. Right,

632
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: There's other things that Blanchfield also needs to work on,

633
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: but she had that one gear that's like that little

634
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: gene you saw there, that's championship gene. You know, whether

635
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: she can fully materialize it, we shall see. Anyway, with

636
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Ricci a lot of ability to BC. I do like her,

637
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: but there's still some stuff to prove.

638
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, are you basically saying what a lot of us

639
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: are thinking? That Ricci is getting better? Six wins in

640
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: the last seven, as I mentioned, although two points here.

641
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: One she's a decision machine, so you certainly are gonna

642
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: have questions about the lack of plus finishing ability at

643
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: the highest level, and maybe two she's beaten a consistent

644
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 2: level of fighters, the Angela Hills, the tiny Tornado, as

645
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: you mentioned but hasn't taken a step yet up to

646
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: this level. And you know, she did fight someone on

647
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: this level, although it was her UFC debut and she

648
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: was stopped by strikes on her feet there against Manan Farah.

649
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: So is it, ultimately, Luke the lack of finishing ability

650
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: that gives you pause on believing that Ricci can get

651
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: to the next level, which is pretty much number one,

652
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: can tender slash title shot.

653
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I mean this division's weird, dude, Like,

654
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, dude. I mean, let's back

655
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: up a step, dude, Ricci is sitting at ten. Like

656
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: the value of this win is yes, like all the

657
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: things we just mentioned. But I think the fact that

658
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: you raise some concern that the decision machine component, to

659
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: me like looms large here, a lot of left, Like

660
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: she's not an overwhelming candidate for like, oh, this is

661
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: the future of this division. I mean, there's a lot

662
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: of ways for her to advance and to there's a

663
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: lot of different ways of which she could develop and

664
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: show us stuff. It's a long sort of way of

665
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: answering that, like, I don't know, I don't I don't

666
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: have any grand designs about her future or what like

667
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: exactly what this portends for you know, the top of

668
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: this division. This is she's sitting at ten like there's

669
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of work in front of her. Yan Sho

670
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: non sitting at two means she could get a big

671
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: bump from this. That is obviously in play as well.

672
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: You don't really see those kinds of differentials, But I

673
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if that if I answered

674
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: your question, But I guess the point I'm trying to

675
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: make is b see, like, I recognize that she's got

676
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a leg up on the division,

677
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: but not in some kind of way where I feel

678
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the inevitability of it. And therefore I haven't

679
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: thought much about what that inevitability.

680
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: And to be fair, a lot of her fights are

681
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: super close. I mean, she she fights a high volume,

682
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: offensive style, but seems to lack that that big stamp

683
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: to be able to put on fights at this level.

684
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: So that's why this matchup is so desirable to see

685
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: because don't forget Shannon, before the five round decision loss

686
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: at the title level against Wailey at UFC three hundred,

687
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: had knocked out Jessica Androdge had won a majority decision

688
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: over a pretty decent version at the time of Mackenzie Dern,

689
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: so Vegas still agrees that as we enter into this

690
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: co main event, Luke jan probably should win this, but

691
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: it's close minus one ninety two Yon Shannon your favorite

692
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: plus one sixty Tabitha baby Shark, Ricci, Luke will I

693
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: say this as an honest question, even though you strongly

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: dislike when I bring up the power couple slash outside

695
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: the cage interests of these men and women in this sport.

696
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: But do you believe that Ricci's association with unbeaten Irish

697
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: boxer Callum Walsh, who Dana White doesn't promote but spends

698
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: a lot of money promoting and really you know, is

699
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: driving the ship on his career. Could this helper get

700
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: more faced time, more opportunity. I mean, if she beats

701
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: yon Sha Na I'm coming off a title shot, does

702
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: she have to pass any more steps to get into a.

703
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: Title Here's the thing, Callum Walsh hasn't done anything either,

704
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: like He's also kind of in a similar career position

705
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: promising future lots to like from what we've seen. Obviously,

706
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: his last one was really spectacular you call the fight,

707
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm talking about. But like,

708
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's not even in the stage of his

709
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: career where like asking what his signature win is even

710
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know what I mean, Like, we're not

711
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: even there yet. So I don't think the association in

712
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: any way hurts, And I think on the margins probably

713
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: could be beneficial for her because you're even asking about it,

714
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: like other people are going to ask about it. It's

715
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: going to become relevant. But at the same time, you know,

716
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: if you have, I mean, you mentioned her being a

717
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: decision machine, Like why is that? Why? Why is someone

718
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: a decision machine? There's a lot of reasons, but the

719
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: main one is they have a difficult time actually inflicting damage,

720
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: especially when in the wrestling sense, because they can't negotiate

721
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: the need for control positions to be somewhat relented in

722
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: order for damage to be there right that that negotiation

723
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: becomes hard for them, so they get they air on

724
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: the side of control position and then they can't get

725
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: a lot of damage in. That's a big problem for her.

726
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're averaging three takedowns for fifteen minutes,

727
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: you know that's a lot that's a very high number.

728
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: That's higher than a lot of championship fighters, and again

729
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: they're fighting, you know, more elite contenders. But you get

730
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: my point, that's a big number, and you're still a

731
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: decision machine that tells me you have damage prompts, which

732
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: means is the UFC really gonna favor that more than

733
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: than what they like about the fact that she's dating

734
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Callum Waalsh. You know what I mean, Like, there's a

735
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: at play at the core of this. There's a much

736
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: more substantive challenge for her. Those things can help, but

737
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: they can't fix that if that remains a consistent issue.

738
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: Sure, a fair answer. I was just it's interesting to

739
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: bring up because she has sort of gotten her profiles raising,

740
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: But you also get you a rising profile when you

741
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: win six of seven, which she's done. So the question

742
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: here is, luke, can she do it against the thirty

743
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: five year old jan chau Nan. I think that I

744
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: don't know it. Maybe Ricci's like a better version than

745
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: a prime Tsha Torres Pennington, but Tisha had that same

746
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: limitation where she could be and you know, she can

747
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: handle herself well against the super elite, but typically not

748
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: have that plus to get over the top and do

749
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: anything but lose a competitive decision. Ricci seems to be

750
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more varied in her variety of striking,

751
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: but maybe the lack of finishing power is the same

752
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: formula we're gonna find out against Yan. Can she get

753
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 2: her hand raised, Luke?

754
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she can. I think yon Channan has

755
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: very suspect takedown defense. I think she can be dangerous.

756
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: I really do believe that. I think she can survive.

757
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: So I definitely feel like a long island Luke. You're

758
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna take the over on this one, right, I mean,

759
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: this one definitely hit the over.

760
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: You actually called it right on the head. I'm taking

761
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 5: you over two.

762
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: And a half. Yeah, exactly. You know what's funny, you see,

763
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not. I don't gamble. It doesn't bring

764
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: me joy, you know what I mean?

765
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: Like I just gamble with your soft drink choices to.

766
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: Be that's it. I gambled other ways, but like, I

767
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: don't gamble. I don't bet on sports for money. It

768
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: doesn't do It doesn't feed my soul in any kind

769
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: of way. But if people love it, no problem. But

770
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: if I try to gamble, I can't do it very well.

771
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: If I try to think of what Long Island Luke

772
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: might gamble as, then I actually feel like I come

773
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: up with better gambling, which I feel like is a

774
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: testament to how you know good.

775
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: You're really saying is guys like me and l I

776
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: L grew up as degenerates, whereas you somehow sidestep that,

777
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: but then acquired your own degeneracy over time through you know,

778
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: grief and angst.

779
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: I unless I had stupid money, I could never understand

780
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the joy of gambling. I just don't get it. It

781
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: doesn't I mean, it doesn't move me at all, Like

782
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I mean, I'm also dead inside.

783
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: So what the fuck am I talking about?

784
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: You know?

785
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: What I mean? There is that Richie's gonna Winch's gonna win.

786
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a feeling Richie can get this done too.

787
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna back her as the small underdog in this one, Luke.

788
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: There are a few other interesting things going on this undercard.

789
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: I mean that sinceious, sincerely. Obviously, the full preliminary card

790
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: is aimed at that market for sure, in in Southeast

791
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: Asia there as this will err live in Macau. But

792
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: what wanng how are we gonna pronounce this Luke Wang song?

793
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: I think people are saying it's spelt like kong, but

794
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: it's tong or song? Which one is it?

795
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: I don't know what. I went back. I went back

796
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: and listened to Brendan Fitzgerald's call of it. It's Wang tongue, so.

797
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: With I know, but didn't they update it afterwards?

798
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: Is something different than that?

799
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to Luke everybody have fun tonight, Everybody Wang

800
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: Tong tonight, because she is an entertainment machine, as she

801
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: once again dressed up like the Joker, but she is

802
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 2: so committed to the character that along with her ability

803
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: and don't forget she's gonna have that asterisk or that

804
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: appeal to her that she has a victory over Valentino

805
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: Chepchenko and kickboxing back in twenty fifteen. But what I

806
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: also loved about Wang Tong. Do you remember that promo

807
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: she cut after her UFC debut where she basically was like, Hey,

808
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: Dana Hunter, why you put me in the first fight

809
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: of the night in the apex with nobody here. It

810
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: was like her way of saying, I'm primetime and I'm

811
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: coming dude. Watch this video of her at the face

812
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: off here and tell me this isn't a superstar that

813
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: knows what to do and is ready to go full

814
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: bloom full global on us too shit great type bon laituia.

815
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 7: Yes, I feel great. I feel super happy, especially when

816
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 7: I find out I'm fighting on the main Catta. I

817
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 7: want to kiss Dana on.

818
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 5: His head, so shoo doc.

819
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 7: Because my debut I had it in Vegas. I was

820
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 7: a little bit nervous, but Ryan, now that's my place,

821
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 7: you know, I feel really good. Well, yeah, she enjoy

822
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 7: getting attention. She wants to do with superstar.

823
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 5: That's that's how she.

824
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: That's the wrong clip, although it's funny saying she wants

825
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: to kiss Dana on the head. But she did the

826
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: joker thing again.

827
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look she did. The commitment to character was

828
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: almost insane with the with the the guns thing, and

829
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: I mean, damn, I mean, how much of a feel

830
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: as we enter her second UFC fight, as she is

831
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: going to be on the main card against Gabriella Fernandez

832
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: here at women's flyweight, how much of a feel so

833
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: far do you have? And it's so early that she

834
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: could like quickly rise the ranks here and maybe we

835
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: got a storyline with her and Vell.

836
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying that she's the women's alex Perreira.

837
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is if

838
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: she's trying to do that, that's the blueprint she's trying

839
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: to follow. I've got a date with the championis division.

840
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: We have history together and I'm coming to reclaim it

841
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: in this area, even though they got a head start

842
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: on me and watch me start bulldozing people along the way.

843
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: Whether she will do that remains to be seen. But BC, like,

844
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: if you're looking like, what's the blueprint, that's it, the

845
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: Poeton blueprint and she has a I'm excited to see her, dude,

846
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: like a finally a you know, I don't know what

847
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: her takedown defense is gonna look like against the UFC

848
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: level opposition, but her striking is fucking awesome. She's got

849
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: one hit or quitter power in this division, which is unusual, Like, yeah,

850
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: sign me up.

851
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Luke Vegas believes she might show that power. A minus

852
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: nine to fifty favorite is tong plus six twenty five

853
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: for Fernandez. I don't know if I who is Gabrielle Fernandez, Luke,

854
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: The name's not jumping out to me, here is this?

855
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: Is there a reason? Why is?

856
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: It's about to be a victim? It sounds like this is.

857
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: Twelve and twelve type. I mean, what do we got?

858
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: I don't know. She's one in two in the UFC.

859
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know with decisions. Yeah, listen, Whang

860
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Tong has a long way to go. But you gotta

861
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: love what she's already shown us. That's great.

862
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: I love that at Moxie, that spirit. Hey, Luke, I

863
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: love what we're going to see in the light heavyweight

864
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: division with the violence that Carlos Olberg and Volcanosdemir are

865
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: angling to do, both looking for a spot in that

866
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: top five with two oh five kind of being wide

867
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: open at the moment, and Osdamir riding a two fight

868
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: win streak, although he certainly has juggled wins and losses

869
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: aggressively ever since that title opportunity. That feels like forever ago,

870
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: but no time is back here and Olberg is hot, Luke.

871
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: He also has won a lot of fights, but he's

872
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: a very good looking guy, Luke. To be fair, what

873
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: are you feeling about who has the right skill set

874
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: to one up the other? Because the winner here can

875
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: make a statement, you know that they're coming on in

876
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: this title ranking.

877
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: I love this fight. It's chaotic, it's that crazy. It

878
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: probably won't go long. The thing is this, Like you

879
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: look at call olberg striking numbers, they are dramatic. I

880
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: mean strikes landingport permit at seven point four to one

881
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: strikes absorbed three point six. Three point six is a

882
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: little in the high end. But if you're landing seven

883
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: point four, which is on the extreme high end, you

884
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: know something's going pretty right. I have not been overall

885
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: impressed with impressed the wrong word. I have not yet

886
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: seen clear evidence that Alberg has a kind of game

887
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: that's really built for longevity, that's built for foundational kind

888
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: of striking attacks, and then you know stuff built off

889
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: of that. He's got a lot of explosive attacks that

890
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: he's able to land on opponents who make mistakes or overcommit,

891
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: and sometimes he makes him do it like he's a

892
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: talented guy. Please almost understand me, But it's not the

893
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: same as like I've got to break this guy down

894
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: slowly over time to really get anywhere, which some level

895
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: of opposition, you simply have to do that. Whereas Uzdemir

896
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: has done stuff like that However, Uzdemir at times his

897
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: defense has gotten better. Actually, I feel like his head

898
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: movement has gotten a lot better, but he's got renewed confidence.

899
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like Uzdemir has a more well

900
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: rounded game and a more foundationally constructed game. But Olberg

901
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: is rangy, dangerous, fast, powerful, accurate, very accurate with his striking.

902
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: That is a tough guy to beat. So we'll see

903
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: what Usdamir does.

904
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: And Oldberg Luke six straight wins since getting knocked out

905
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: in his UFC debut, the last five wins by stoppage.

906
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: He is thirty four years old. You did identify that

907
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: uh takes big chances, gets big results here. But if

908
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 2: he stops Osdemir in kind of a shootout, that's gonna

909
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: say something. Luke. That's seven in a row, and this

910
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: is the level of name he has certainly needed. Right now,

911
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: we could be looking at big things for good old

912
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: Carlos Olberg here.

913
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about it, dude. If Poeton beats

914
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: on Calio, I was talking about this yesterday. If Poeton

915
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: beats on Caliev, you know, I almost want Jones to

916
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: fight him. I mean, not before he fights Asmhall, but

917
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: like what I mean is if Poton beats on Calif,

918
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: who's the next guy you're excited about Poeton facing. I

919
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: didn't say who's the next contender? I said who are

920
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: you excited to see Poeton face? If he gets pasted

921
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: on Clive? There isn't anybody. And I'm not saying Alberg

922
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: is that guy to like, you know, electro electrify the world.

923
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: But he might be. Maybe he goes in there and

924
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: blows the fucking doors off of Ozdemir and makes a

925
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: great call out and you're like, okay, winner of this,

926
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what we can do here, you

927
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But like, there's just nobody who

928
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: is who is trying to become the next exciting contender

929
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: at two a five with any great success beyond on

930
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Caliav And even that was kind of a struggle.

931
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, as we enter this matchup, we have Osdemir

932
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: at number eight, Carlos Olberg at number ten at two

933
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: hundred and five pounds, So it's looking good here, Luke.

934
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned Osdemir's confidence. That's those that two fight win streak.

935
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: Those were both finishes, including that knockout of Johnny Walker,

936
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: so he feels ready thirty five years old, still in

937
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: the picture here for him. But is Oldberg quicker, a

938
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: little bit more dynamic and hallsy enough to stop this

939
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: man and make statement? I think he does. I think

940
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: he can. Before you make that prediction, Luke, let me

941
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: tell you odds wise that we're looking at minus two

942
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: forty five for Olberg plus two hundred for Vulcan.

943
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: That's a little I'm not sure how I feel about that.

944
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I could see the faster Olberg being a

945
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: real problem, like you know what I mean, Like even

946
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: if you take him down, he does like the kind

947
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: of takedown defense where he's hammer fisting your ear or

948
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: elbowing it and with like quick succession, like there's no

949
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: room for error. You have to really like get to

950
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: his back. I don't know if Uzdemir is that guy.

951
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: So Uzdmir more skillful, but older and slower, even though

952
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: there's not a huge age difference, just in terms of

953
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: like their athletic ability. Olberg not as well rounded, but

954
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: has a ton of speed and explosivity and accuracy. That's

955
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a fun one next year.

956
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 5: I like it.

957
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in the odds here. I believe Olberg

958
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: can do it. But Osdimir is one of those guys.

959
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: He's stubborn enough that you can't count him out. And

960
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: if you're looking for him to get old or get

961
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: caught by something, he's just the same. Might you know,

962
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: take on all the damage and land something big too.

963
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: I remember that fight with Pra that was wild as ship.

964
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Right, yep, that was He's dude. He's definitely one fight

965
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: that I was a little surprised that he won, and

966
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: then he's lost. He's lost fights that I was like,

967
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: what the hell were you doing.

968
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: In that same regard, which means you can never really

969
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: bet on his fights because he's so unpredictably explosive. In

970
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: the other direction, Long Island, Luke, where do you read

971
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: this one? As a degenerate gambler?

972
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, of course you can bet on

973
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 6: his fights. I'm taking him as a dog man. I

974
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 6: got him at plus two fifty. You mentioned he's down

975
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 6: to plus two hundred.

976
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: Now.

977
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, it's.

978
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: Worth the shot.

979
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 6: I don't think Carlos Olberg is that impressive, let me

980
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 6: see you the notes not but.

981
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: His thing ems are probably impressive.

982
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: Probably a fucking I mean it's insane. Someone told me this.

983
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: I haven't verified it, so this could be fake news.

984
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: But someone told me, actually, you know what, it may

985
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: have been the Sumission radio guy that to take this fight,

986
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: he had to turn down The Bachelor Australia or like

987
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: the Bachelor New Zealand or whatever. So you know, I

988
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: mean he's on the verge of doing some great things.

989
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: You know what he said by doing that, He said,

990
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: poon tang can wait. There's only one chance, right, one

991
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: shot to do this. So I applaud that.

992
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he made a choice for his career

993
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: and the fighting side. I respect it. He's the thing

994
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: is this, he's limited. He's limited, but he is dangerous

995
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: and if you're really not ready for that, it could

996
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: be a big problem.

997
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: Look, do we have a result on the Connor McGregor case.

998
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: Is that today?

999
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: The I haven't checked Twitter, but we are supposed to.

1000
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: They were The jury is deliberate, or at least last

1001
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: I checked, the jury is deliberating.

1002
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: Yes, And did you see d Devlin a companied.

1003
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 1: Oh here we go, Yes, we okay, we have breaking news.

1004
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: We have breaking news. Connor McGregor has been found guilty

1005
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: of rape in a civil court. And I want to

1006
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: be very clear about something. This was not a criminal charge.

1007
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: I do not know why a criminal charge was not brought,

1008
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: but this was a civil charge. You might recall many

1009
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: of you were not alive for this. It's not your fault,

1010
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: as he likes to make fun of me for what O. J.

1011
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: Simpson was acquitted. The Goldman family still sued Simpson and

1012
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: there was a subsequent civil trial after that, and that's

1013
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: where they were able to at least get a judgment

1014
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: for his wealth. Whether they got it in the end,

1015
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that was where it happened. So

1016
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: something similar is here. He is not facing criminal sanction.

1017
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: I believe that the local, uh you know, local authorities

1018
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: determined that there wasn't enough evidence. Am I wrong to

1019
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: uh to make it a to make it anything but

1020
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: a civil case.

1021
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: So it got you say, enough evidence the you have

1022
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: to be very careful about what that means, like enough

1023
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: evidence in the sense that they have no forensic evidence.

1024
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: It just becomes a contest or piece.

1025
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: They dismissed it, they dismissed a criminal trial, or.

1026
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: It's a question of like what you believe you can

1027
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: actually prove in a court of law. To jurors, and

1028
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: these are you know, these are very different considerations.

1029
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: Same ideal said differently. I get the distinction, but yeah,

1030
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily this.

1031
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean it can be the same. It's not necessarily

1032
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: the same. You could have some very interesting evidence, but

1033
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: that evidence could sometimes be for jurors who aren't of

1034
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: legal experience hard to help them understand what it might

1035
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: actually mean. So it's like, quick again, it's not what

1036
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: you believe or what you even know, it's what you

1037
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: can prove. And these are separate considerations. But I don't know.

1038
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't I honestly don't know why there was no

1039
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: criminal charge ultimately brought. But he is facing because of

1040
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: this significant financial penalty. What that will look like? I

1041
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: guess we're gonna find out.

1042
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 5: How is so.

1043
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 8: Pat Healy, who is a reporter for the Irish Star,

1044
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 8: Irish Daily Star and Irish Mirror, says total damages two

1045
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 8: hundred and forty eight thousand euros.

1046
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 5: So really not that much money. Two hundred fifty thousand dollars.

1047
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Wow, that's it? Yeah, plus another plus another sixty thousand.

1048
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1049
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1050
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: I think she was more seeking just to you know,

1051
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: have her day at court and let her voice be

1052
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: heard and have this be uh you know, taken seriously

1053
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: after I mean, she went through hell, Luke to even

1054
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: get to this point in the trial.

1055
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: Well, what I mean, there's been There's been a lot

1056
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: of Connor McGregor victims, alleged or otherwise who in the

1057
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: time after they interacted with Connor. You know, there was

1058
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: the one person who had the home But was this

1059
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: her the one who had the home invasion? I believe so,

1060
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: I believe so there was another one who had her

1061
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: car set on fire. Again, do you know everyone out

1062
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: there can decide the relevancy of these facts, but they

1063
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: are certainly alarming at a bare minimum.

1064
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: Well, don't forget when I was in Ireland for that

1065
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: Calm walshfight. I'm not kidding. I asked every single Irish

1066
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: person about Connor and the response every single time was

1067
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: fuck him, like not even joking, Luke. So this is

1068
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: a I mean, he's look, is it true to say

1069
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: he's a convicted rapist? That's going to be the the

1070
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: lingering label for how long? Luke?

1071
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: What I mean it is found liable for rape in

1072
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: a civil case. That's not I don't know if that's

1073
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: the same thing as being a convicted rapist, because that

1074
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: usually again that implies criminal tale es it's you know,

1075
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1076
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: But label wise, this should follow him. Look, this should matter, It.

1077
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Should it will, it will follow him, It will follow him.

1078
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 8: Now.

1079
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Also there is a difference as well in Ireland. I

1080
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: actually looked this up. Ireland and US share a very

1081
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: similar justice system in the following way, namely that when

1082
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: you have a criminal case, the prosecution has to prove

1083
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: your doubt or your your your excuse me, it has

1084
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: to prove your guilty, your uh, you're guilty beyond a

1085
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. In America, if it's a civil case, it's

1086
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: a different evidentiar evidentiary standard, it's called a preponderance of evidence,

1087
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: meaning like in general, enough of the evidence weighs in

1088
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: that direction. It's not as high of a evidentiary threshold

1089
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: as you know, beyond a reasonable doubt. So it was

1090
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: in a sense from a how do we prove this

1091
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: person guilty perspective, it's a easier uh conviction to come by. However,

1092
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: to the point that you raised, you know, just to

1093
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: get to this stage for this woman, has you know,

1094
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, been you know, exceedingly nightmarishly difficult.

1095
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't mean to undermine in that sense, just that

1096
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: the case they had to prove was under a different

1097
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: evidentiary standard.

1098
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, I mean this is this is a major

1099
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: thing to happen to any athlete, famous person, really anyone.

1100
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: So to add this on to where Connor's at in

1101
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: the public eye and everything going on, I mean, look,

1102
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: it's it seems crass to spin this into a question

1103
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: about fighting. But if he's taking a big financial or

1104
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: a big enough financial hit here, or maybe it really

1105
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: isn't that much, and all things considered compared to what

1106
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: the wealth he's acquired, But does this lead him back

1107
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: to the cage? Does all this bad press lead him back?

1108
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: There is this?

1109
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 9: You know?

1110
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: Does this cause a big change and turn in his life?

1111
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: I mean I was shocked to see d devil in

1112
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: arm in arm with him the last few days heading

1113
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: into the courtroom.

1114
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: Dude, I might have to go grab Tuchy for just

1115
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: a second. But what I was going to say is,

1116
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: oh Jesus, I lost my train of thoughts. Sorry, she

1117
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: was just being on my door and it fucking derailed me.

1118
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean she was there. You know, Here's

1119
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say he might fight again BC.

1120
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: He might, you know, we don't know. I mean, there's

1121
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: no guarantee, but he might. He might even win again,

1122
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: depending on how it goes.

1123
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 5: But like.

1124
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Anything that you understand about the McGregor fighting experience, and

1125
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: I know we know this, but I just want to

1126
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: be very clear about it. On the day, like today,

1127
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: it's completely over. Like it's over. It's over. Like this

1128
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: guy is living, for better and for worse, a completely

1129
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: different life, utterly disconnected from what it means to prize fight.

1130
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: The guy is in barrooms and courtrooms. He is not

1131
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: doing any of the things that lead you to any

1132
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of excellency in his chosen sport. And again absent

1133
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: today's and this trials thing, it's like, you know, earning

1134
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: well through prize fighting. It's his right to enjoy it.

1135
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: But I just want to point out, like, look at

1136
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: how disconnected in every reway his life is, with the

1137
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: exception of the promotion of BKFC, which it looks like,

1138
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, does he look sober for those I mean,

1139
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to be mean.

1140
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't even mean literally is drinking beer on the

1141
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: on the side of the.

1142
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I mean, Like, it's so fucking

1143
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: over right, right, mean, do you am I wrong?

1144
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: We see, like, no, you're not wrong. And obviously this

1145
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: this should really change the way he's looked at, talked

1146
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: about and everything. I mean, this is and this is

1147
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 2: not the only incident or alleged you know, thing thrown

1148
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: at him of late. So you can't live this life, Luke.

1149
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: We made you know, the crash joke about the three

1150
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five consecutive days. It seems that he's

1151
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: just partying full on rock star. But there's a reckoning

1152
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: to come when you live this lifestyle. So it's, uh,

1153
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: there's a there's a rough day for that, for that,

1154
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: you know, for his reputation for everything in that.

1155
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Regard, no question about it, all right, Luke.

1156
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: Tough transition, but we do have a fantastic guest ready

1157
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: to join us, just twenty one years old, one half

1158
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 2: of the Mission Star Rutolo twins Caid Rutolo of one

1159
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: Championship and he is now a MMA and this two

1160
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: and oh fella is coming on. Caid. Welcome to Morning Combat, dude.

1161
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: What you're doing in this transition to MMA is waking

1162
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people up consider me one of them.

1163
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the early success. It looks easy for you

1164
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: out there.

1165
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, excellent intros always, Thank you guys.

1166
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: Great to see you boys. Man, this was super stoked

1167
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: to get it done in the in the first or

1168
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: sixty two seconds, I think it was something like that. Yeah,

1169
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: so I was making a joke.

1170
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: It was funny.

1171
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I've been more hurting all my

1172
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: jiujitsu stuff than my MMA stuff so far.

1173
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: So great to see you so active. I mean the

1174
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: fact when you went in there against a legit opponent,

1175
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 2: but how do I pronounce his last name? I've been

1176
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: all over the place with that.

1177
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was I believe, taking Mustabar mustabaja.

1178
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: And not just make it look easy, but to flash

1179
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: the striking and the big looping right hand that set

1180
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: it up, and to hear the names you're willing to

1181
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: mention afterwards. It doesn't seem like this is a hobby.

1182
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: It seems like you're ready to arrive and make noise.

1183
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: But do you mean it? If they called you for

1184
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: something crazy, a title shot, anything, are you ready right

1185
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: now to continue to with a short short film on you,

1186
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: to continue to make splashes? In the sport.

1187
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, I believe what's given me this confidence is

1188
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: my coaches. You know, when it comes up to grappling

1189
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: a snow secret. You know, my brother and I were

1190
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, that's our thing, right, you know, when it

1191
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: comes up to grappling, we know for sure we're gonna

1192
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: get that sub. So it's kind of just been a

1193
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: mixture of just figuring out the striking and how to

1194
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: merge the grappling in with the striking, and with thank

1195
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: God for my coaches, Tyler Wombles and Eric Paulson. Tyler

1196
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: Wombles is some of the technical side of the striking.

1197
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: You know that that high low over was the finish

1198
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: that we that we got in the life, and then

1199
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: Eric Paulson for merging that all into the grappling world

1200
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: and also with the striking end also on the ground.

1201
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: So the best team behind me has just been building

1202
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: so much confidence that there's honestly, when I look at

1203
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: the roster, you know, any roster one Championships UFC, I

1204
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 3: feel like, with how my progression has been going, there's

1205
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: no reason why I shouldn't have a strap around my waist.

1206
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: All right, Kate, I got a bunch of questions. I

1207
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: want to go back to Eric Pulson in just a minute,

1208
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: but the first thing I'm going to ask is, you

1209
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: know the story so early ufcs, all the jiu jitsu

1210
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: guys had great success, and then over time it began

1211
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: to fade, and even guys like Hadra Gracie, who we

1212
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: hold in very high esteem, but it wasn't like an

1213
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: overwhelming dominating force in MMA, and it kind of went

1214
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: out of favor. And then I see you guys come along,

1215
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: and you in particular obviously with this last win, just

1216
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: just you know, dynamite, and I have such a different

1217
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: feel for the possibility of grapplers doing well in MMA.

1218
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: What am I picking up on? What is different now

1219
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: about you and what you're doing? Then even you know

1220
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: again no, no on Hodra one of the best to

1221
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: ever do it, if not the best, but it just

1222
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: feels very different from that.

1223
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: That's a great observation. I think there's two main things.

1224
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: I think one is learning how to strike. I think

1225
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: a lot of grapplers think they could get away with

1226
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, maybe just the one two's and shoot right,

1227
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: when in reality, at least for what I've been learning

1228
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: is you're never gonna find that entry unless you gain

1229
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: their respect on the feet, you know, so actually, you know,

1230
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: giving them something to worry about other than the grappling,

1231
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: other than the jiu jitsu. And aside from that, I

1232
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: think you know, when for MMA, when jiu jitsu guys

1233
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: would go to MMA, you know, most people when they

1234
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: come from a jiu jitsu, especially a high level jiu jitsu,

1235
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: World champions in jiu jitsu, a lot of the times

1236
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: that could be more like sport jiu jitsu, you know

1237
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, where it's like a lot of the

1238
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 3: guard delihiva baron bola is the more the technical side

1239
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: of jiu jitsu, which I think doesn't really translate to

1240
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: MMA as well. If you if you look at my

1241
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: brothers Deny as our game has always been since we

1242
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: are three years old, really takedown, pass and submit. So

1243
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, with that, it just translates

1244
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: so much better to MMA as far as because that's

1245
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: what you do when you're in there. You can't really

1246
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: just pull garden and you know, eat hammer fist. You

1247
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: got to take the guy down past the garden submit, right.

1248
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, but also it feels like, you know, everyone's

1249
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: talking about pinning and wrestle ups, and it's just a

1250
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: different conversation even outside of MMA, inside of jiu jitsu.

1251
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: It's like, I guess, is what I what I'm asking

1252
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: is is the most modern kind of jiu jitsu the

1253
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: kind you play And everyone's got their own style, but

1254
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, yours is obviously a very modern style. Is

1255
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: that itself better suited for MMA these days?

1256
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: I believe one hundred and you know, the most humble

1257
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: it possible, one hundred and ten percent, I you know,

1258
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: the most humble it possible. I don't think there's been

1259
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: a level of jiu jitsu that that, you know, my

1260
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: brother and I bring to the table in MMA and

1261
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: a very long time, if if ever, you know, I

1262
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: think just the ability to uh, to snatch it a

1263
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: submission from anywhere where guys are usually trying to hold

1264
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: them down or you're you're getting held down. I feel

1265
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 3: like there's so many I'm always watching fights and being like, oh,

1266
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: that was a sub, that was a sub that was

1267
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: a sub right, So I mean even uh, you know,

1268
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: for one guy I consider one of the most complete

1269
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: fighters right now, like Ilia Torpea. You know, I think

1270
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: he's got amazing striking, amazing grappling, great wrestling defense, just

1271
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: so complete as a fighter. And you know, I was

1272
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: watching some of his fights through one of the Iryan

1273
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 3: hall a couple and I've seen a lot of entries

1274
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: where I'm like, man, if I got there, I don't

1275
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: think he would have he would have escaped that, you know.

1276
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: So the confidence level on the ground is is, you know,

1277
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: is an all time high. So I believe we just

1278
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: got to keep the striking to match it and what

1279
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: we've seen some big things in the future.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you bring that up. Eliot Tuporia is BC's

1281
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: favorite fighter. He loves him, So I'm glad. I'm glad

1282
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: you brought that up. Yeah, if I may, If I may.

1283
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: How did you get hooked up with Eric Paulson? Now,

1284
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: for folks who don't know, Eric Pulson was a guy

1285
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: combat sports wrestling from years and years ago, worked with

1286
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: Josh Barnett among a million guys. A complete wizard of

1287
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: M M A and grappling and all the different connection.

1288
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a like the jiu jitsu right, but

1289
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: he's also like a catch wrestling guy. It's a whole thing.

1290
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: How'd you get hooked up with him.

1291
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: He is one of the most knowledgeable, knowledgeable people I

1292
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 3: have ever met in my entire life. I think he

1293
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: has like a photographic memory where once he sees something,

1294
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: he never forgets it. He's he's the truly very special person.

1295
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, our sponsor Toni pat Senori. You know, he

1296
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: created this new brand. He did this thing back in

1297
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: the day with Ruka and and and now he's onto

1298
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: Tenori and he's built a beautiful facility. And he's always

1299
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: he's been like a mentor to me growing up, you know.

1300
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 3: So he's always put me in the hands of some

1301
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: of the greats. And as of recently, when I was

1302
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: coming to him, I really wanted to make my MMA debut.

1303
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: I felt like, you know, I was getting better. I

1304
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 3: was training, but I wasn't training at one specific spot.

1305
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: I was kind of just getting training all over. I

1306
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: came to him, I was like, I need a head coach,

1307
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: you know. So he was like, you know what, Eric Paulson,

1308
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 3: he's kind of retired right now, but let me call

1309
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: him up and see what I called coach, and and

1310
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: and he was like, let's do it. He took the

1311
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: task on and I couldn't be happier. You know, he's

1312
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: he's been so detrimental to to this, to my fight career,

1313
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: only two fights right, so far he's been so detrimental

1314
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: to my two fights. Just beyond thankful to have him

1315
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: by my side and a massive confidence booster for the

1316
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 3: entire future.

1317
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: Your great relationship to build right there for sure when

1318
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: it comes to the idea of advancing and making the

1319
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: decisions necessary on your next choices in MMA matchmaking, like

1320
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: where we love when prospects come in and get finishes,

1321
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: because there's always that lingering question of as great as

1322
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: they look, especially when they're you know, leaning into their strengths,

1323
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: what happened gas tank wise, if it goes the three rounds,

1324
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: what happens you know, to all the things that are

1325
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: all the unknowns when you're literally in this position, would

1326
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: you prefer your next fight is a you know, three

1327
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: or five round war where you get to prove exactly

1328
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: that to everybody, or is it better on the journey

1329
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: to see that incrementally each fight have to show a

1330
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: little bit more.

1331
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question, as feel as you just

1332
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: to you know, it's just get the submission as quick

1333
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: as possible. But like you said, there is that small

1334
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: feeling of wanting to experience going into the deeper rounds,

1335
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: you know, because the cardios are so much different, right,

1336
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 3: There's completely different cardios and pacing. It's it's just so

1337
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: much different in the two sports. So yeah, there is

1338
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: that feeling that I do kind of want to experience

1339
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: and feel that and go into the third and fourth

1340
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: and fifth round eventually. Right. But you know, for me,

1341
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: right now, I say that, but every time I step

1342
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: in there, I think I just want to get it done.

1343
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: You know, well, how busy can we expect you? And like,

1344
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: for real, how many wins do you think you're away

1345
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: from crashing the title picture and getting that call if

1346
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: you can keep this progression.

1347
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, I believe, you know, I think it's super

1348
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: dependent on who my next couple of matchups are and

1349
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 3: everything like that. But uh, you know, I don't think

1350
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: there's there's no reason why not by the end of

1351
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: next year that we uh that we're there. You know,

1352
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: like I said, I got the best possible team behind

1353
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: me in my eyes, you know, we got a lot

1354
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: of confidence and a lot of time just to skill

1355
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: building you better. So yeah, super excited and probably by

1356
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: the end of next year probably hopefully be looking for

1357
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: that title.

1358
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: Well, you're two and zero here at lightweight, and if

1359
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: we look on the one championship calendar coming up, We've

1360
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: got one fight Night twenty six live on Prime Video,

1361
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: and that's going to go down December seventh in Thailand.

1362
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: Christian Lee the lightweight champion, of course, the two division

1363
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: champion with one. We'll make that return after two years away.

1364
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: Alibag Grasulev is the opponent as he comes back. How

1365
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: interested are you and seeing what the champ looks like?

1366
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: And you know, we understand the journey of that he's

1367
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 2: been on in his family of losing their younger sister

1368
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: and to see him come back get right back in

1369
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: the fire. What are your expectations there for December seventh?

1370
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: Man, As far as expectations, I'm not sure. I know,

1371
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: Christians the double time champ is the animal. You know.

1372
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm more so just excited to see it and just

1373
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: kind of study it and play out the results and

1374
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: see what happens from there. And you know, Christian obviously

1375
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: is solidified as a two time champion, as even his

1376
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: younger brother. They're Asian. I think now that's making some

1377
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: waves in the platform as well around the same weight,

1378
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: So you know, obviously you got some eyes on those guys.

1379
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's the chapter of the division, so that's

1380
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: always where the goal is set. And yeah, I'm looking

1381
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: forward to that bout. I think it's gonna be a

1382
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 3: sick matchup. I'm looking forward to see it, and you know,

1383
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: just take some some little things away for sure.

1384
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, definitely when we look at you and

1385
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: your brother, and you guys got such a cool image

1386
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: just twenty one years old, you totally got that surfer

1387
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: bro vibe. I feel like, you know, we could turn

1388
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: off the cameras and go, go, we should get that

1389
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson bong Luke and really get that they fired

1390
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: up all right. Born in Hawaii, raised in southern California,

1391
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: was that surfer lifestyle sort of just everything you fell

1392
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: into and it kind of explains who you are today.

1393
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You know, my dad said this the

1394
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: other day and in a clip, and I didn't even

1395
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: really realize it until he said, I'm god, it's kind

1396
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: of true. He's like, honestly, I think the boys are

1397
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: like that surfers that do jiu jitsu, Like it's kind

1398
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 3: of we started all of our sports at the same time,

1399
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: you know, surfing, skating, jitsu.

1400
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: You know.

1401
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 3: Honestly, surfing was the one that we always loved the most.

1402
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: That was our joy, you know, and jiu jitsu we

1403
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: always love too. Obviously it is so much joy. But

1404
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 3: it turned into a job over time, right, So obviously

1405
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: still a bunch of love for it, but also the

1406
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: pressures and everything that come with that. Surfing has always

1407
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 3: just been our escape and are just our you know,

1408
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: just what we love to do. So like it's our

1409
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: mind off, fighting our mind off any sort of stress.

1410
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, so since we were three years old, we've

1411
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: been in the water, you know, and now we're starting

1412
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 3: to learn some different like spear fishing we just recently

1413
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: got into, and well just the water in general. Yeah,

1414
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: we love it.

1415
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna sound like a real stupid question, and

1416
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure that it is. So how hard did you

1417
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: ever try competitive surfing or was it just a relaxation thing?

1418
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's not a stupid question. Growing up, we

1419
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 3: were doing like little local comps sometimes are where I

1420
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: grew up in Huntington Beach, there was a Huntington Beach

1421
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: City comp. I remember me and my brother both made

1422
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 3: it to the final. I took him out in that

1423
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 3: one like a poor persons final, and then he got

1424
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 3: me back at another one. But we were always competitive

1425
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: and everything we did, even surfing, so we never got

1426
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 3: to a level like that was you know, of professional

1427
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 3: or anything like that, but just like local and pro

1428
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 3: comps for you know, the community and things like that,

1429
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: we dabble in for sure.

1430
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: Okay, So for someone who's never surfed, what is the

1431
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: hardest thing to do in surfing?

1432
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: I always I always say it depends on your comfortability

1433
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 3: in the water. Right. If you're a good, strong swimmer

1434
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: and you're comfortable and you're not scared of the ocean,

1435
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna pick surfing up like that because it's really

1436
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: not that hard. But if you have a fear of

1437
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: the ocean, the water, and that's what makes it really

1438
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 3: difficult to learn, I feel like because then every time

1439
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 3: you know, you even try to catch aways, you fall off,

1440
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 3: you're trying to get back on your board rat it.

1441
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: It is just high high tension, high pressure doesn't allow

1442
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: for the best learning, you know, So how hard is it?

1443
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: What was the question again? How hard is it?

1444
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: Or like of all the things to learn to get

1445
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: good at surfing. What's the hardest one?

1446
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 3: The hardest I would say, honestly, probably just catching the way.

1447
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: To be honest with you said you wouldn't even think that,

1448
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 3: but the cardio. It takes in the shoulder strength, right,

1449
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 3: And that's why surfers always make some of the strongest people.

1450
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: My dad. If you train with my daddy, feels like

1451
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: an off like like Kelly Slater for example. I remember

1452
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 3: training with him way way back in the day. And

1453
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 3: when I trained with him, I was like, this is

1454
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: like the strongest individual. He's you know, blue belt. He's like,

1455
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 3: he doesn't look very strong, but eleven time surfing World champion.

1456
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, he's got iron grips, you know. So

1457
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 3: probably the paddling part and just getting into the way.

1458
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: I Usually it's one of the hardest. The balance. A

1459
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 3: lot of people can figure it out.

1460
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Okay, So you won the million dollars

1461
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: with CJI, and now I'm not trying to pry into

1462
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: your finances, but I will ask this, did you buy

1463
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: anything fun with that million dollars?

1464
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: Anything fun? To be entirely honest, I did it. I didn't.

1465
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give you guys the answer.

1466
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: Y'all want to hear it?

1467
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: I butt, no, I didn't what I invested into a

1468
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 3: little bit of property in Costa Rica. And then really

1469
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 3: the only other purchase I made, which I needed a

1470
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: new car because I've gotten t bones like the week

1471
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: before in my truck, so sirs, I got. Yeah it

1472
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 3: was a nasty one too, thanks. So I drove a

1473
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 3: nice big tundra, lifted everything. So twenty ten. It was

1474
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 3: back when they still had to steal steal. It's not

1475
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 3: flastic anymore. So yeah, I still had to steal. And yeah,

1476
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: I think it was going fifty five and it hit

1477
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 3: me perfect, but thank god I was in the big truck.

1478
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 3: And but yeah, anyways, long story short, I needed a

1479
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: new car. I just got a little U. I couldn't

1480
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: believe I found this deal was a nineteen ninety one

1481
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: four Runner manual stick shift four by four with ninety

1482
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 3: or eighty one thousand miles, and I was like, I

1483
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: gotta take it.

1484
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: I was so rad.

1485
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: So I got I got that thing.

1486
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: Dude. There's a lot of guys, I mean, I'm you know,

1487
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: we're me and BC are just old pieces of shit.

1488
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: But I know a couple of dudes in their twenties

1489
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: that are buying like vintage Jeeps or like vintage So

1490
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: the kind of thing you're buying like it's is there

1491
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: like a am I picking up on just like two

1492
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: individual instances or is there like a wider thing happening.

1493
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 3: No, there's definitely a it's crazy house. I mean, you

1494
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: can look at some of these, like some of those

1495
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: older toyotas, you know, the the twenty two rs and

1496
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 3: twenty two are whatever motors, Like some of those things

1497
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 3: are you know, however years old, thirty years old and

1498
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 3: they're selling for thirty grand, you know what I mean.

1499
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: It's crazy. So there's definitely a full niche in that world,

1500
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: you know. And man, those trucks never die on you,

1501
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 3: they go forever. They're so simple you could fix everything

1502
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 3: in the car, you know. So yeah, I love that

1503
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: compared to all the new computer gadgets in the cars

1504
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: and things like that.

1505
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 2: CAD. When it comes to Grappling's future and Mikeys mussamechi

1506
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: excuse me, getting the big headline. They're signing exclusively with UFC,

1507
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: and they're growing intentions of what they're trying to do

1508
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: across all of combat. What is the future right now?

1509
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: Coming off of Craig jones invitation on the huge success there,

1510
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: How excited are you? What are your expectations moving forward?

1511
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're talking grappling, I think I think all

1512
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 3: of it. I think grappling is in such a good,

1513
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: good spot, good future, a place where it's definitely never been.

1514
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of leaning towards a future where

1515
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: you don't have to move into M M A or

1516
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: open up a gym to make money. You know, there's

1517
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 3: so much money now and and prize money and and

1518
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 3: like it was Nikki you Rod saying after he won

1519
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: the CJI all these things. He was like, yeah, I'm

1520
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: a millionaire and I don't have to get punched in

1521
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 3: the head, right. So, like, you know, for ju jitsu,

1522
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: I think it's all good. It's all healthy, you know,

1523
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 3: And anytime there's all these big platforms, healthy competitions for

1524
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: one another, you know, So between one championship, the fight, pass,

1525
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 3: the h the whatever, you know, flow, grappling, ADC, C,

1526
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: c JI, all that stuff, I think, Uh, at the

1527
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's just good for all the

1528
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 3: athletes within the sport. And I'm stoked to see it.

1529
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 2: Final question, what is new with your brother ty, what's

1530
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: going on? What can we expect to see from him

1531
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 2: in the future.

1532
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so ty Ty is doing good. He's just on

1533
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: the road to recovery. You know. I'm kind of in

1534
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: the same boat with him the end of this year,

1535
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 3: just recovering alongside him. You know, he did some damage

1536
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 3: to his knee, pretty gnarly, a bunch of ligaments and

1537
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: things like that got torn. So he's just been healing

1538
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 3: that up and he's looking It's the most frustrating thing,

1539
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 3: you guys. I mean, I've been putting all this work

1540
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 3: into MMA and thinking like I'm getting my slicker with

1541
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: my striking this syst and that I'll just box my

1542
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 3: brother because his knees bad. It's kind of the only

1543
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: thing he could do, and he'll and we're still I

1544
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: feel like right here, you know, he hasn't been putting

1545
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: in the same work to say none of it, and

1546
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 3: everything we do is just I swear we progress together

1547
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: even if he's not training. So yeah, and next year,

1548
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: I know he's gonna take some heads down in MMA,

1549
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 3: make some big waves there, probably even bigger than me.

1550
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: And obviously and as well, I think next year is

1551
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: gonna be a really big year for us.

1552
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see Thanks so much for your time,

1553
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 2: Cade Rotolo coming to grappling matts in one Championship Cages

1554
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: near you soon continued success. Great talking with you man,

1555
01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

1556
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 3: Jade, Thank you so much. Boys. Likewise Strape, I got

1557
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 3: you guys for the rest of your day.

1558
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: Love. Indeed, there was Caid Rutolo look a great personality

1559
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: as well. Looking for big things from the twenty one

1560
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: year old twins. I mean for him to say, yeah,

1561
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: my brother might go even further than me and Mma,

1562
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: it's got to get you excited about what might happen here.

1563
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's simply no question. Hard to dislike those boys, Yeah,

1564
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: hard to dislike those boys.

1565
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's get running, Luke. To close out the show. We

1566
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: do have a few more topics.

1567
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,839
Speaker 1: If I may, if I may be very quickly, I've

1568
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: retweeted it and you can do it the same. Nikita hand.

1569
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: This is the woman at center of the kind of

1570
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: regigor rape conviction or again whatever it's I'm not sure

1571
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: what you call it, but uh, she is speaking to

1572
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: the media. I've retweeted her statement. Yeah, if you want

1573
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: to check that out there, it, Luke, is it is it?

1574
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: Uh?

1575
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 1: It's I can't it's this it's her speaking.

1576
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 2: Okay, see there, I got you. Thank you so much.

1577
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: Good thing. You didn't have the wrong screen on there

1578
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: on the phone and we were looking in that private

1579
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: folder that would have been something Hey topic number two. Hey,

1580
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson and Jake Paul fault last Friday, and we're

1581
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: still talking about it. And Netflix is able to make

1582
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,839
Speaker 2: the rounds and share of that this was a monster success,

1583
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 2: so causing a bump in Netflix's stock price in a

1584
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: single day such that it added twenty billion in market value. So, Luke,

1585
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: and light of that reveal, in light of all the

1586
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: stats that Netflix is putting out, and even with all

1587
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: the negativity still surrounding the I guess the entertainment value

1588
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: or the sincerity of the fight all in all here

1589
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 2: as we're almost as we are exactly one week over

1590
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: from this. Was this fight good for boxing?

1591
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: I think it was, but not in the way that

1592
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: we typically think of it. So what I would say

1593
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: is I think an opportunity was missed that the fight

1594
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: wasn't good. I mean it was not just not good,

1595
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: it was like plainly terrible and then Netflix, you know,

1596
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: kind of shit in the bed really heard it too,

1597
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: But just talking about the fight itself, it was really

1598
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: bad and I think an opportunity was missed to get

1599
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: people excited about what else there could be. So in

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 1: that sense, I don't think it was good at all,

1601
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: and it didn't put I mean, it was you know,

1602
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: it looked, it looked amazing on to the extent you

1603
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: could watch it on screen, but it you know, it

1604
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: was ultimately just there was nothing to it. However, however,

1605
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: BC Here's what I'm thinking about. I don't know what

1606
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 1: PBC's future is next year. It remains unclear. There is

1607
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: some stuff on the calendar, but you know, it's paramount

1608
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: pulling out of the business has not been awesome for them,

1609
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: I think is a fair way to put that. There

1610
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: is also some kind of rumor milling out there, and

1611
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to report that. You know, I

1612
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: don't know if Top Rank and ESPN are going to

1613
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: work out a deal, which means in the last few years, Showtime, Fox,

1614
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: ESPN and others would have all dropped boxing from their coverage. Again,

1615
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: if that comes to fruition with Top Rank, we shall

1616
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: see that, you know, that's not good. That is real bad.

1617
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: That's real bad. I don't think Netflix can save it.

1618
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: And I think part of what they did was just

1619
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: a one off or you know, this thing is very

1620
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna have, you know, like the

1621
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: same kind of thing that Turkey is paying for with

1622
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: Golden Boy, like you know, Latino Knight in Riod, Like,

1623
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they're interested in that. There's probably a

1624
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: small segment, but I will say that any life they

1625
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: can breathe into boxing, even if it's for just a

1626
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: few dates a year, and it's for the much bigger side.

1627
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: I don't think we should poo poo that and utterly

1628
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: dismiss it, even if the fight was garbage, and even

1629
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: if the fight Knight was a very frustrating experience as

1630
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: a consumer.

1631
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: Yes, and you obviously can still make the argument about

1632
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 2: how many seventy million people watched Taylor Serrano two And

1633
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: I did hear of people say, I mean, could could

1634
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: a trilogy go on Netflix one day? Or do you

1635
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: have to pare it? Do you have to pair it

1636
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: with a Jake fight? You do make great points like

1637
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: given the uncertainty and given the fact that the next

1638
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: six months from a business standpoint in boxing will probably

1639
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: see more crazy changes than we've seen in you know,

1640
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: a decade before in some ways. I mean, we had

1641
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: a crazy enough change a year ago when Turkey came

1642
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: in and changed our expectations for big fights. But if

1643
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: Netflix becomes another major player, even if it's only for

1644
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: super big fights but can fund them in that regard, yeah,

1645
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 2: then then maybe maybe the narrative has shifted away from

1646
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: the idea of like, damn, that fight sucked too to

1647
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: you know, what, can we build on this in the future.

1648
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 2: But look, do you have any I I didn't tell you.

1649
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: This because the last time I saw you was obviously

1650
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: Monday and it hadn't happened just yet. But like after

1651
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: Monday show, I'm not kidding. I had like a few,

1652
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 1: like like a surprising amount of MMA managers hit me

1653
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: up and be like, you, guys, we've had some really

1654
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: strong takes about that fight, and I'm like strong, like

1655
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: who okay comin event? Notwithstanding who like had a good

1656
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: time watching? That wasn't the main event, Like it was

1657
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: bad no matter where you come from, Like yes, casual fan, hardcore,

1658
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: long time, new time, it was terrible. I'm like, how

1659
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: are we giving spicy takes about an event that was

1660
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: like objectively bad.

1661
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's people have lumped any criticism of

1662
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: this fight into some of the more edgy criticism, which

1663
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: is people claiming they've seen a contract where you've weren't

1664
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 2: allowed to do upper cuts, which is no proof of

1665
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: and people, you know, I mean, look, I believe there's

1666
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 2: some level of absolute bullshit attached to this fight. And

1667
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: it's not just the fact that it was an entertainment

1668
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 2: bottoming out. You know, from that standpoint, it was the

1669
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: whatever's less left of the Hey, dude, that was a

1670
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: real fight. So do we have any sanctity left in

1671
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: this to put out what was obvious? I don't know.

1672
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how far take it, but there's been

1673
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: people that have taken it extremely far. And I think

1674
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,520
Speaker 2: that now anytime negativity happens, you're getting those same responses

1675
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: of oh dude, would you expect or you know, at

1676
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: least you have to pay for it, or that whole argument,

1677
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: which we've done all week. That sucks, But uh yeah,

1678
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: let's try to focus on the good. I guess moving forward. Man,

1679
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: it's been disappointing to see I don't think just because,

1680
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, just because some are saying it was like

1681
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: choreographed and fixed, which I'm not really sure. I'm not accusing,

1682
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: but I'm saying whether it was Jake explosively taking his

1683
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 2: foot off the gas to let an old man just

1684
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: get to the finish, or whether it was what some

1685
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: of these videos Luke, as you see on the screen there,

1686
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: make it seem like Mike is also pulling punches. All

1687
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, with that many people watching, this was

1688
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: the worst look you could have given them. I think

1689
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: we all would have preferred that if Mike got dropped

1690
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: in round one, if Jake had fought a little harder

1691
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: and then the ref was like, yeah, let's not take

1692
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: a chance. It would have sucked, but at least we

1693
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: would have had closure and said, Okay, bad idea, but

1694
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: let's just move forward.

1695
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: When I was at MMA fighting, this is like circa

1696
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, something like that. Twenty sixteen, maybe I wrote

1697
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: an article about Bellator and they were doing their old

1698
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: man fights at that time, and this was well passed

1699
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Kimbo Dotta. We were still I think we were heading

1700
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: into like chaal sawn and territory, and in the piece

1701
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: I forget what it was called. You can look it

1702
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: up if they haven't deleted it. But in the piece,

1703
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: I basically argued that, of course it was silly to

1704
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: assume that these fights were fixed like because at the

1705
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: time there was just everyone thought Kimbo Data was fixed,

1706
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: and everyone thought Kimbo Ken Shamrock was fixed, and I

1707
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: was trying to explain to them, the fights are just bad,

1708
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: like they're just bad. I mean, as it always possible

1709
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: that they're fixed, of course, But I found out a

1710
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: rule from watching that which is the more illegitimate in

1711
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: terms of the quality of the boxers themselves, or in

1712
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: this particular case, boxers the fighters right, and the more

1713
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: corners you have to cut to get there. We're not

1714
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: gonna be in New York. We're gonna be in Texas.

1715
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna have weird catchweight. We might change the glove rule,

1716
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: we might change the round rule, or whatever kind of

1717
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 1: accommodations you make that get you away. And our opponents

1718
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: are each in their forties or in this particular case,

1719
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: even the fifties.

1720
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 2: The more you.

1721
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Stray away from legitimacy in that sense, the more the

1722
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: public doubts the legitimacy in terms of everything being above board.

1723
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: It's a legitimacy in two different senses, but they're connected

1724
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: by the vast array of the meaning there. And this

1725
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: is exactly what you get here. You cut a million

1726
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: corners to make this fight. You got way outside of

1727
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: established protocol, and so naturally, dude, there's gonna be a

1728
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: fucking million conspiracy theories about it because people can't recognize

1729
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: the shot. Mike Tyson was shot when I was in college, Like,

1730
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: that's how long he's been shot? Yes, and now your

1731
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: twenty plus years past. I'd be like, why was he

1732
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: pulling his punches? I'm like, yeah, no, no clue, have

1733
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: no idea, what you know?

1734
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: Final statement, once again, it's not being upset that the

1735
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: fight was so bad. It's being upset that, in my opinion,

1736
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: neither guy actually tried. They were both content fighting on

1737
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, twenty percent effort and just let's let's get

1738
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 2: the money, make sure no one gets hurt, and go

1739
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: it's home. When you can't do that in a real fight,

1740
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: or what precedent are we setting? Moving forward? Topic number three,

1741
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: Luke Dana White reacted angrily to John Jones not being

1742
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: the recognized pound for pound number one. But this is

1743
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 2: a good opportunity to really quantify the value of Jones's

1744
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: win over Stepe mio chich Heir six days later among

1745
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: all of John Jones's career title victories and Luke some

1746
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: people thought maybe you and I and you were really

1747
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: aggressive in shitaying on whatever impact the Steepe fight had

1748
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: on the legacy, or how do you quantify it? Well,

1749
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: I guess we'll fix that right now. Where does the

1750
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: me win rank when you look at all of the

1751
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: massive sixteen wins in title fights that John Jones has

1752
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 2: the UFC record.

1753
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: Of in terms of the championship skill and adversity that

1754
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: they have to face. It's a very simple question that

1755
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: everybody has to ask themselves, but no one seems to

1756
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: want to do it, Which is, where would of all

1757
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: of John's title fight wins. I think he's got seventeen

1758
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: or eighteen something like that, of all of those wins,

1759
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: where would you rank this one? Now, if you're ranking

1760
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: just on name value, and like the past of Stepe's resume,

1761
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: it goes pretty highly obviously, right, You're talking about arguably,

1762
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: if not outright, the most successful UFC heavyweight champion that

1763
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: we've ever seen so like on that level it would

1764
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: go very highly. But in terms of like what he

1765
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: had to do in terms of displaying championship skill to

1766
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 1: get this win and the resistance he faced, be fucking serious,

1767
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: We're not even close to anything bordering on that. Now

1768
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I've seen and him, I have his entire history up

1769
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: here BC of his odds, he closed at about a

1770
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: minus five fifty, around a minus six hundred favorite. That

1771
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: is about what he was actually Tiago Santos was a

1772
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: little bit less. For Anthony Smith.

1773
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: It was more.

1774
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: It was about the minus seven hundred in that range

1775
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: ovin Saint Prux, which was a weird one because there

1776
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: was a late switch in the whole thing. That was

1777
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: a weird one. And then beyond that the first gust

1778
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: of Sen fight, which everyone whiffed on, that ended up

1779
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: being very he had to I mean, we talked about

1780
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: John's clutch gene that was big there, and then after

1781
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: that you're you're into the section of his career like

1782
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the MATTYU Schenkos, which is non title. In other words,

1783
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: from an odd standpoint, we're already talking about one of

1784
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: the more advantageous setups he had to begin with. To

1785
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: begin with We're already talking about that now in terms

1786
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: of talking about the resistance that he faced, and some

1787
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: of this is guess work. I understand. This is why

1788
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: it's a debate. BC. I think it's better than his

1789
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: Anthony smith Win. Believe that. I also think it's better

1790
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,799
Speaker 1: to an extent over his Thiciago Santos win because Santos

1791
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: spent long portions of that fight injured.

1792
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: Sure, right, although he was still dangerous. He was dangerous in.

1793
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: Theory, he was dangerous. It's not clear exactly what he

1794
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: could have done when both of his knees required like

1795
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: extensive sirve.

1796
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is, even when he had no knees,

1797
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: he came close to John's chin on big attempts you

1798
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: know a lot.

1799
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1800
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: Yes. And by the way, I skipped the chill Son

1801
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: in one, which would be the most but that was

1802
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: the work. I mean, he just blew right through him.

1803
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: That was a waste of time. So this is what

1804
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about. It's definitely better than the smith win.

1805
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: It's definitely better than the sun And win. You can

1806
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: debate whether it's better than the Santos win. It's definitely

1807
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: not better than the Rays win. This is what I mean. Everyone,

1808
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: This is what I mean in terms of the difficulty

1809
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: that he faced and the level of resistance he had

1810
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: to of to respond with in kind, you just can't

1811
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: be serious that this is one of his better wins.

1812
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: It's not even it's not even at the midpoint of

1813
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: his wins. It's clearly in the lowest section that he has.

1814
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: So when people say things like you know, well, this

1815
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: wind confers a lot, or when they get their you

1816
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: know there, they clutch their pearls, because I'm saying to you, like,

1817
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: what does it mean? Does it mean something to beat

1818
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: step amochich PC It means something? Of course, it's a

1819
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: fight happened, and he looked good doing it, Like that's

1820
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: there's a value there. But when you're actually forced to

1821
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: rank it against the other wins that he has under

1822
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: the guideline of like again, the aforementioned criteria, you're just

1823
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: lying if you say it's one of his better wins.

1824
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:44,839
Speaker 1: It's matter of factly not. We're grading John not against nothing,

1825
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: and what a Meocich win provides. We're grading him against

1826
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: an all star resume, and what that win provides against

1827
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: an all star resume. If you go back to what

1828
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: I said on Monday BC, I'm glad you brought that up.

1829
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: I said, it means fuck all, when you're wins are

1830
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: as good as his. You mean to tell me again,

1831
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: from a name value standpoint, it does something to his resume,

1832
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: But for actually ranking them, you see, tell me which

1833
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: ones are worse than this one? Did I miss one?

1834
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 2: Missing rematch?

1835
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: Gustison rematch changed everything on last minute notice, which was

1836
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: a weird kind of change. You could put that one

1837
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: down there, fine, Park reporter, that's not a title fight,

1838
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: that's not a.

1839
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 2: I was okay, would you say, would you be content

1840
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: if I told you that in order, the best wins

1841
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,520
Speaker 2: are DC one, Showgun, d C two, and Gustafson.

1842
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: I have to think about that. But on first glance,

1843
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: that sounds pretty right.

1844
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an insane for best wins. And then you're

1845
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: adding on to that rampage that version of Rashad which

1846
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: was still very elite.

1847
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: That was a very elite Rashad Leota Micheedah was was

1848
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: fucking people up too.

1849
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean absolutely, that was a very dangerous version of Machidah. Yeah,

1850
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: and then you know, you sprinkle in those other ones

1851
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: at the later end of his career too, damn. I mean,

1852
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: that's why he's the goat Luke. So I know Dana's

1853
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: going to continue that he needs to be number one.

1854
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 2: I still think it's all part of Dana's Bobby Heenan

1855
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: plan Luke to continue to convince John that he's the

1856
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: best thing ever and can't be beat so that John

1857
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: will agree to make the fights that we all want. So, uh,

1858
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: this is what Dana posting on Instagram.

1859
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dana was getting super better, and it's like it's like, guys,

1860
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: John beat somebody who I think would go tooth and

1861
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: nail with Marching Taybora and has only had two wins

1862
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: since basically what like early twenty twenty or three if

1863
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: you want to count the ras one but two just

1864
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: in the state of division. I think. I think at

1865
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: that same time Makachev has eight, you know what I mean,

1866
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: Like it's just, you know, I don't understand what it

1867
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 1: is that is hard for people to understand, like the

1868
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: let like consistency and anyway, Look, I think I had.

1869
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 2: This conversation on a fantastic program that Mike Heck does

1870
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 2: called Between the Links or Blow the Bell or something

1871
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 2: with Jed Mishu and we had this whole debate on

1872
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, how confident are we right now that Jones

1873
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: Aspiral will happen. I'm almost as I'm also I'm like

1874
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 2: crazy confident suddenly, like fifty five percent confident, because did

1875
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 2: you hear what Aspinall said that UFC brass told him,

1876
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: no problem, we got this. Dude. If they call Uncle

1877
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 2: Turkey just like they did for the Damn Sphere show

1878
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: to bail Dana out on that one, he can make

1879
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: this fight happen.

1880
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: He really can.

1881
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: And I get you know that you can make that

1882
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 2: argument as Jed did that Dana doesn't want to send

1883
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: any precedents by giving one man that money. Who which

1884
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: one man deserves that money the most? Probably the greatest

1885
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 2: fighter ever.

1886
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: So if he's deserved it for a while, you have

1887
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: to ask what changed?

1888
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 2: So Turkey's the thing we need to get it done.

1889
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident they can get it done here, Luke,

1890
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 2: if it may.

1891
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, dude, UFC can afford this.

1892
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't need they don't need Turkey's help.

1893
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 2: They can call that to Ari though, tell that he

1894
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 2: wants understand.

1895
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: I understand that. Okay, My only issue with the fight

1896
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: being partially funded by Turkey is that remember after I

1897
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think you went to this one.

1898
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't go to the Medromov bud fight,

1899
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: did you. I was on vacation, okay, But that that

1900
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: that event was apparently like a giant financial fucking bath.

1901
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Like apparently it was so bad that his overseers in

1902
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: uh Saudi were like, you need to bring these back

1903
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: to Riod. So if the fight has to take place

1904
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: in Riod, I mean, listen, here's my VIEWBC. If if

1905
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: it has to take place in Riod in the sense

1906
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: that like there's no other way to do it, then

1907
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: do it, right, that's my view, Just fucking do it.

1908
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: But like, in an ideal world, is that where that

1909
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: fight should take place, Like, it shouldn't take place there.

1910
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,799
Speaker 2: I mean, it should take place in a Legion Stadium

1911
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 2: or cow or at and T Stadium or Wembley Stadium or.

1912
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: Wembley exactly somewhere in the UK, somewhere in the US.

1913
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 2: Yes, but that might be the way it has to

1914
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: get done. And if that's the way it has to

1915
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 2: get done, let's get it done.

1916
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Let's do it also, last thing on this, I

1917
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: just don't believe if you are confident that John will fight,

1918
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: and I think it's possible. I think it's possible.

1919
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:15,679
Speaker 2: He'll fight for Turkey money.

1920
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: He'll fight for oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, okay,

1921
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: so let me back up for Turkey money one hundred percent.

1922
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 1: Wh'll fight, Like I believe that. Like if you if

1923
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: Turkey comes.

1924
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 2: In, is like offer like a million million.

1925
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Saying yes, yes, yes John saying yes. I believe he'll

1926
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: say yes, because that's just an absurd amount of money.

1927
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: You should say yes, Yes, you should say yes. I agree.

1928
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 2: The kid's kids, you know what I mean seriously, But

1929
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: the question you have.

1930
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 1: To ask yourself is, let's say he did make ten

1931
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: million to fight his last one and UFC says will

1932
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: go as high as fifteen. Does he take that?

1933
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: No, it's got to be like I think it's like

1934
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: nineteen is the area where they could wear him.

1935
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: He's gotta you think he's got to hit that twenty

1936
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: mil threshold.

1937
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 2: That might be the line for him. Yeah, but they've

1938
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: got to hit in that that line. But Turkey could

1939
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 2: get like you said, could get that line pretty damn high.

1940
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 1: Don't know, Yeah, I mean, they got the money. They

1941
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: got the money.

1942
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: But I don't even care what precedent it would set,

1943
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: because you'd basically be telling your fighters get to get

1944
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 2: to John Jones level, you know what I mean, then

1945
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 2: maybe we'll help you get that money, you know what

1946
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean like that, so I don't think it breaks in.

1947
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Also, also, uh, Turkey clause, you know, is not going

1948
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: to be here every Christmas, you know what I mean,

1949
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Like John might be able to get that money. And

1950
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: by the way, if John gets that money and says yes,

1951
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: like I'm good, I don't have a single complaint, nothing,

1952
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: not in a zero, other than I don't want the

1953
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: fight to be in Riod. But other than that, like

1954
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: do your thing. But I don't think Turkey clause is

1955
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, handing out gifts to all

1956
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: the little boys and girls forever.

1957
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: Well let me just say it like this. The only

1958
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: chance we have of getting to John versus Francis before

1959
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: it's too late is Turkey paying for John versus aspinall,

1960
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 2: obviously John winning, but then Turkey and t KO and

1961
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 2: you have see pointing toward what is down the line,

1962
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,879
Speaker 2: And if we had to get the smart Cage involved

1963
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 2: and we had to figure out how.

1964
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 3: To do this.

1965
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: The only way we do that is with all of

1966
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 2: those players, Luke.

1967
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe here's the thing. I'm gonna take John

1968
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: at his word that fighting aspinall is more a little likely,

1969
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: not going to happen, but still possible. Definitely still possible. Okay,

1970
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,959
Speaker 1: John versus Francis, No, it would.

1971
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 2: Be pipe dream, Luke. But I've been around pipes my

1972
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: whole adult life.

1973
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 1: Pipes.

1974
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to topic four here. It's going to go

1975
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: down February first, a fantastic PBC on Prime Pay per

1976
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,879
Speaker 2: View from Team Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. As previously announced,

1977
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 2: David Benavidez and David Morrell Junior, the unbeaten excuse me now,

1978
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 2: light heavyweights both have interim or secondary titles, and both

1979
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 2: wanted Canelo at one sixty eight, can't get it, so

1980
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: they're going to fight each other. So Luke and I

1981
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: have been spending months teasing and talking about the idea

1982
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 2: of how great this fight can be, and I've already

1983
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 2: said it. When you add in Fulton versus Figueroa two

1984
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: as the Colemane and some other tasty dishes underneath, this

1985
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: is a strong move from PBC at a time when

1986
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 2: PBC needs strong moves. This is getting the public's attention.

1987
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 2: But Luke, after what we saw earlier this week at

1988
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 2: the press conference in la where there was some jack

1989
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: jawn back and forth and then they took their shirts

1990
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 2: off to film the pay per view commercials where they've

1991
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: got the smoke machine and they're there, and it got

1992
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Harry again. How fired up? Luke? Are you for this?

1993
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 2: And do you think that the extended combat sports world

1994
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 2: will catch on and this fight might have some hype

1995
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: to it as we get closer to February.

1996
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: First, let's rea, let's react to that clip. Let's react

1997
01:35:47,080 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: to that clip. The face off, We're good, We're good.

1998
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Happened after that? Vetus came back and

1999
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: then was like all right, you want to fight, let's

2000
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: go right now? And uh in in English Morell was

2001
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 2: like fuck you and it got it got kind of crazy, dude,

2002
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 2: It was wild, you know.

2003
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Dude, I I'm not okay because Usik versus Fury Too

2004
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: is on the calendar and is actually next. It's like

2005
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,560
Speaker 1: it's like it's like like three weeks or something like

2006
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: assume right, that's the best boxing fight on the calendar.

2007
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: This is number two. This is the one right behind it.

2008
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: For me, maybe you feel differently, BC, I don't know,

2009
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 1: but you're talking about David Benavitez, who doesn't In a

2010
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: world where Jones like, yeah, I'm not gonna fight Aspenal,

2011
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: in the world where Canelo is like, yeah, I don't

2012
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: want to fight Benavidez, Benavitez is like, motherfuckers, bring them

2013
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: to me. I will sit them down one by one.

2014
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: Fighting Demetrius Andred when no one wanted to fight him,

2015
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: taking on Caleb Plant a tough out if ever there

2016
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: was one moving up away classes if he didn't put

2017
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: away Vosdik, but he had a you know, I think

2018
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: overall a pretty good performance. And now he's taking on

2019
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: this like slickster out of Cuba, and BC, if I

2020
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: missed any part of this, please tell me if I

2021
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 1: got it wrong. He is slick, athletic, he can punch.

2022
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: He hasn't faced anyone like Benavidez, who just moves downhill

2023
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: on people. But he has a lot to offer. Dude,

2024
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: what is there to dislike about Benavidez or this fight?

2025
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: Holy shit, folks get excited.

2026
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 2: It's like, should we get over excited about that interaction

2027
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: between them. Yeah, when we already were like, this is

2028
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: a hardcore fans dream. There's gonna be a great fight,

2029
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: but obviously you want it to get the hype and

2030
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 2: attention it would deserve. Well, it's starting to when you

2031
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 2: add in basically a grudge war just out of like

2032
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, machismo and cock Sure, I mean this is

2033
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 2: going to be Look when bet I said this to

2034
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: you over text. Yes sorry, When Benavedaz has the right

2035
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 2: dance partner and he had one with Caleb Plant in

2036
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, The builds to his fights are pretty

2037
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 2: damn intense, fun and damn near epic because he has

2038
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: no problem trash talking. He doesn't seek it out, but

2039
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 2: if it arrives, if there's beef, the the temperature in

2040
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: the air increases. Do we have the other footage here

2041
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 2: of them jawing during the actual press press let's hear it.

2042
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Let me let me I want to do.

2043
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 10: You know you don't have I don't have power. For power,

2044
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 10: I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you I will

2045
01:38:50,479 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 10: break you know that's gonna be boys, Ut the.

2046
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 5: What you.

2047
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: Man? You're just stupid? Beat the.

2048
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: Do you do?

2049
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: And I want you ready because you do? I want

2050
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 1: you guys do what you do?

2051
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 9: What you do?

2052
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 1: You know what?

2053
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,959
Speaker 5: Like I said, these are I want want people.

2054
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: That are stupid.

2055
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 5: He's gonna go on Instagram.

2056
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: Look at this guy. He's nervous man number what. Yeah,

2057
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna see, You're gonna see.

2058
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 2: This is unexpected to get a little a little sprinkling

2059
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 2: of flavor on top between these two. And that just

2060
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: adds to everything that we're gonna see. And did you

2061
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 2: think Benafiez was too pudgy and that face off they

2062
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:55,719
Speaker 2: did for that commercial?

2063
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Or look, he looks like the I mean, of all

2064
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 1: the candidates you could image to be like a an enforcer,

2065
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: he looks like the last guy. But that is exactly

2066
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: what he is. I fucking love this fight, bro, I

2067
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: love this fight. I cannot wait now Comaine.

2068
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 2: Event is badass. I hope we get a chance to

2069
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: be there. Luke February first, PBC, gonna be hot in

2070
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Yeah, and look real quick, the winner of

2071
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: this fight more likely in your opinion, to fight the

2072
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: winner of Better BVB Vault two if it happens, or

2073
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: does this wake Canelo up? What do you think.

2074
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 1: I think the only way Canelo fights the winner of

2075
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: this is if they take a beating on route.

2076
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 2: And it might be one of those fights we're both

2077
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 2: give all to get the victory like this is. This

2078
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 2: could be a classic affair.

2079
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: This is why you just have to give credit to

2080
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: both of these guys. They may not come out the

2081
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: other side the same even if they win or lose.

2082
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: So you, you know, you gotta pay respect to people

2083
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 1: who put on the line in general obviously, but then

2084
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: specifically in cases like this, which, by the way, we

2085
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:00,919
Speaker 1: didn't even mention the title unification.

2086
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't wait. I mean, I want to

2087
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 2: see the winner of this fight Canelo beval and better

2088
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 2: bev I mean, I want it all, Luke, So let's

2089
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 2: see what happens here. Topic number five. Are a few

2090
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: odds and ends, and I do think some of them

2091
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 2: are important. So BKFC made a few headlines not involving

2092
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: what's going on with Connor McGregor in the courtroom, from

2093
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 2: the idea that they're gonna do Knucklemania coming up in Philadelphia,

2094
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 2: and it's not bad Eddie Alvarez versus Jeremy Stevens in

2095
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 2: the main event of that ten pole pay per view,

2096
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 2: but then David Feldman of BKFC teased cryptically the idea

2097
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 2: that BKFC is on the verge of announcing in all

2098
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 2: Comers twenty five million dollar tournament. Luke, I got a

2099
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 2: lot of questions here, not just where's the money coming from?

2100
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 2: Like a is this a Saudi type situation? Does that

2101
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: even matter? But they seem to early on without knowing

2102
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: any of the rules, the settings, anything, they seem to

2103
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 2: be pitching it to literally anyone across the board in

2104
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 2: combat sports that wants to come do this. If that

2105
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 2: money's real. You don't see prizes offered like this, you

2106
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean, unless it's a big fight between

2107
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: two established guys. What could your expectations be for something

2108
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 2: that feels so nineteen ninety three but could be really

2109
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 2: fun in twenty twenty five.

2110
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: Dude, when this news broke, tell me if this was

2111
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: your reaction, My reaction was like, is this Is this

2112
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: like the Onion or something like? It almost didn't make

2113
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: big waves even though it was designed to, because it

2114
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: seems like so implausible. I mean, you raised the first

2115
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 1: question that I had, which was who how did the

2116
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: fuck do they got twenty five million, Like that doesn't

2117
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,679
Speaker 1: make just on hand, you have twenty five million on hand.

2118
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound right at all. Most of these promotions

2119
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: are you know, they have some capital, but they have

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Speaker 1: shoe string budgets in a lot of ways. They especially

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Speaker 1: don't have twenty five million in cash just laying around.

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Speaker 1: So my first thought is they must have some Middle

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01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: East investor, right, they must have some Katari or Emirates

2124
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: or you know, I don't know if they have Saudi investment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where the money's coming from.

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Speaker 1: But absent that, I don't know how they would have

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Speaker 1: this money at all. So that's a little Oh there's tuchster.

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Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, can you take over? I have to

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Speaker 1: fix something real quick.

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01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 2: I can absolutely take over. So look, I'm interested. Like

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01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 2: BKFC does have this ability to make you care for

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01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 2: short periods of time and to have a redneck feel

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Speaker 2: to how it's promoted a pro wrestling like, Yeah, I

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01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 2: can't avoid this. The idea of like a winner take

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01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: all insane prize tournament that could bring people we may

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01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 2: not expect that still have something left in the tank

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01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: to pour out and maybe a big name. Then this

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Speaker 2: takes the ideas of what Belatore did with that heavyweight

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01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 2: Grand Prix featuring all those old names that was sort

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01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 2: of like a modgepodge of history of different sized people.

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01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,799
Speaker 2: That could take that idea and bring it to the extreme.

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01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 2: It almost again has like UFC one origin vibes of

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01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 2: like here's a man surprize, whoever you are, come and

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Speaker 2: try to get it. There are a lot of weird

2145
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 2: and interesting names in this sort of crossover. You know,

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01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 2: the kind of people that we debate should be Jake

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01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Paul opponents. What if all those guys threw themselves into

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01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 2: something like this, you'd need big stars for sure, but

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01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 2: you'd probably get them with that price tag on top.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. You know, the smart Cage doesn't offer

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01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 2: this much money. UFC is not offering that much money.

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01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 2: Turkey on the highest level of boxing. You know, Canelo

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01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 2: gets that much money. But Luke like they're saying winner

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01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 2: take all as well. So how big could the clientele

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Speaker 2: be for this?

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01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: In your eyes, if they're actually offering that kind of money,

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01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 1: I actually think that they could get some interesting offers.

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01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you really have that kind of money,

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01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: And is it like winner take all. I know, it's

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Speaker 1: an age, that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, is this going to bring high

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01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:50,879
Speaker 2: profile boxers?

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01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 3: Is it?

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01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: Is it gonna make if it's again, if the money

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Speaker 1: is real and they can know it's real, yes it will.

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Speaker 5: It will? I mean?

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01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: And also like, what's what's recover hoving up to? What

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01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 1: are you know? But I don't know the whit class.

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01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much as unknown about this. I

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01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: don't really know who is going to be eligible. But

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01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 1: if you're putting twenty dude, that's like that's almost Canelo's guarantee.

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01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.

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01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 2: What if they did what if they made like a

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Speaker 2: two division window, like almost like you know, whenever we

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01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 2: talk about BMF fights, it's typically people in the MMA

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Speaker 2: space between lightweight and welterweight, like the whole one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty five pound club. What if they did some

2178
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 2: form of somewhat fair you know, two division space where

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Speaker 2: you're like, if you can make this, you're in this tournament.

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01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like two hundred and up or something or

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01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: one eighty five and up, you know.

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Speaker 3: Or no.

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01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 2: What I'm offering there is what basically one seventy to

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Speaker 2: one eighty five.

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01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 1: You could just do open weight. You could do open weight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if the commission Again, it's

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01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: also where's it going to be under? Who's jurisdiction?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: A lot of this is known, so okay, stay tuned

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01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 2: for that. Stay tuned for January twenty fifth, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in Dubai because PFL has an offering our pfla tour

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Speaker 2: that we got to see it here and it's Bellator

2193
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 2: lightweight champion Usmann Namaga Medoff making a title defense against

2194
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Paul Hughes, the Irish prospect who's a prospect no more

2195
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 2: after he took down A J McKee. There will also

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Speaker 2: be a PFL residency in Dubai. So, Luke, how big

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 2: is this for pflatur and how great is this freaking fight?

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Speaker 1: Man? I absolutely love this fight. And I know if

2199
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 1: everyone says he said the exact same thing before Paul

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01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Hughes fought AJ mckeyats too much, too soon, too much,

2201
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: too soon? Well how'd that go? How'd that go? Now?

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01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: B C, I'm not silly. I would favor Uspin never

2203
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 1: made off this time. It is, it's not umore. I

2204
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: would favor uspin Neberka Madoff to win, I think you

2205
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: probably would too. But Paul Hughes is so exciting. And

2206
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: I gotta say, if you didn't see the trailer that

2207
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 1: Francis and Gan who posted partly was a commercial for Dubai,

2208
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: but like as a fight trailer, it was awesome as

2209
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 1: like to get your high and more to the point, BC,

2210
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot to kill PFL about in

2211
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: terms of well everything that's just everything they do is

2212
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 1: kind of bad. But they're not wasting time with Paul Hughes.

2213
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that, Like, yes, they made a big signing,

2214
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: big splash, they gave him a good fight against aj

2215
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: McKee on their pay per view and now they're going

2216
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 1: right back to back and put him against the number

2217
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Madoff And I think Number GOA made probably wins that fight,

2218
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: but I think win or lose, Paul Hughes is going

2219
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: to make a very good account of himself. And by

2220
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: the way, if he goes in there and wins, do

2221
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 1: you know how bad it's going to make the UFC.

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01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 1: You know, look in terms of like you passed on

2223
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy who just blew the doors off

2224
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: everyone at PFL, who's fucking awesome. And also last thing

2225
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: on this as I understand it, if he were to

2226
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: win a title like this, like he would be essentially

2227
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,799
Speaker 1: the best fighter since McGregor out of Ireland.

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01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, Luke. I don't mean to get

2229
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 2: soap opera ww on you, but everyone's talking on social

2230
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 2: media about if Paul Hughes asked Connor to be in

2231
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 2: his corner and Habib's in the opposite corner coaching his cousin,

2232
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 2: this fight will get a lot of attention, the temperature

2233
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 2: will get raised. Will that? Could that happen? Will that happen?

2234
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 2: I mean McGregor just went through some really bad pr today.

2235
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Ro Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna go. I

2236
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: don't quite know, but you got the nimber Goa Madoff

2237
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: name in there, and you know, Ireland versus Russia in

2238
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 1: this particular circumstance, or Ireland versus Nimbergaaidoff family or whatever.

2239
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: There's ways to work it without Connor explicitly. But I'll

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01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: give them credit. They are promoting him the right way.

2241
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: They're putting him in aggressive matchmaking, but not I think

2242
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: unwinnable matchmaking. And so far it's going pretty goddamn great.

2243
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: Look that fight is January twenty fifth, a week earlier

2244
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 2: January eighteenth. I didn't think i'd care about this on

2245
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,719
Speaker 2: paper when Dezone puts together a boxing match where Tommy

2246
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: Fury will face Darren Till. But then they had a

2247
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 2: press conference and then Big John Fury got involved, and

2248
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 2: now Luke, I'm all the hell in on this gas

2249
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 2: station food right now, Like, give it to me. I

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01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: believe we have a video of something related to this.

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01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Let's watch it.

2252
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 4: Please listen, dar you got to walk into the firing line, mate,

2253
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 4: and everyone that was fired from the from the Olympic

2254
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 4: sues turned over pro It's different watching me on the

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Speaker 4: at the end.

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01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 5: Of the day, I can't. I just kicking in the face.

2257
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 4: But that's not gonna happen. Darren obviously is gonna be

2258
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 4: great in the casion now in the boxing ring, and

2259
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna find out the box.

2260
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Listen, you you straight in the face, Well, that's it.

2261
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 4: It's going to be a proper fight then, isn't it.

2262
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 5: But then I'll win because I'm a proper fighter.

2263
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: You're not a boxer. You know.

2264
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 5: I don't walk into I.

2265
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: Don't walk in the room like this sea boxing go ship,

2266
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 1: I walk in no one and he is a thread

2267
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: to me.

2268
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 2: In this room. Order you your dad are not a

2269
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 2: thread to me. I'm an MMA fighters.

2270
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 4: Why come over there, you in the face, I will

2271
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 4: why do anything about it? Listen, darge your brother like

2272
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 4: a b fine.

2273
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 10: So if I'm in the fight and I'm losing, I'm

2274
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 10: gonna go ight, I'm.

2275
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 5: Kissing him in the face.

2276
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 2: Note, oh, look that video ends right before it got great.

2277
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: By the way, that when Big John Fury got up

2278
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 2: and dude, the back and forth between Big John Fury

2279
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 2: and Darren Till was theater. Luke, the you're about as

2280
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 2: dumb as a loaf of tower dope bread. I mean,

2281
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 2: the one liners were hilarious, and the eyes you get

2282
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 2: big John getting up and throwing the water bottle and dude,

2283
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 2: suddenly I'm like, is Darren Till, who was just recently

2284
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 2: in a boxing match for one round and got taken

2285
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 2: down in a brawl afterwards, is he the savior we

2286
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: need in this stupid lane of these type of fights

2287
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: because hilarious. Yeah, oh he should lose. I mean he

2288
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 2: should lose this fight for sure, but dude, he can

2289
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 2: make really fun stupid things happen in the promotion of

2290
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 2: these things.

2291
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's where he's at now, you know.

2292
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: I remember when they were UFC were hyping him up

2293
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: as like the best guy in the world in the air,

2294
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: apparent to Michael Wisping in the UK. Everybody's tough, you know,

2295
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: everybody's tough. But uh, I'll say this, I'll watch.

2296
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 5: Watch.

2297
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's stupid. How much fun you can have

2298
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 2: watching a fight with Big John Fury involved.

2299
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's the dubbest shit on earth. But

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01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I'll watch it.

2301
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 2: You know, it's not bad, It's not bad. We have

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01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: something here about Till's physique, Luke, I believe he said

2303
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: he was okay too.

2304
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: So this is a way in photo from I'm not

2305
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: sure which fight, but at some point and then look

2306
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 1: at the follow up. Bro, is there a follow up?

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01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2308
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Give it a say, okay, hold up, just bro, look.

2309
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 5: At this dude.

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01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 2: He said he's as high as two fifty three.

2311
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he fought at one seventy in the UFC.

2312
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, granted he had to cut enormous weight to

2313
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: get there, but you know, all right, not exactly at

2314
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 1: the peak of his fitness. Capabilities.

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01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 2: I hate to ask you this, but if he goes

2316
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 2: in there and out boxes Tommy Fury and wins and

2317
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 2: pulls an upset, does he get Jake Paul next? Yeah,

2318
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: probably probably does. Yes, there's there, there you go. That's it.

2319
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 2: That's our topics for the week. But we have one

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01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 2: more segment, and thank you once again to our guest

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Speaker 2: cad Rotolo for stopping by Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

2322
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 2: Is your chance to send in for every Friday dead

2323
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 2: wrongs if we said something but it wasn't right, or

2324
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 2: maybe what we got today a batch of your bullshit

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01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 2: that we'll put up on the fridge happily. We call

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01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:23,440
Speaker 2: this fan submissions.

2327
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: You've got mail feures, right, Luke.

2328
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 2: The first one is from Joseph And by the way,

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01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 2: he's my boy Joey from the Zach Mexico band from

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01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 2: out there in the outer banks of North Carolina and

2331
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 2: the OBX and Joe says, headed to a wedding, but

2332
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 2: you know I need my MK bamber on in case

2333
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 2: it gets chili MK all day every day, boys, LFG Luke.

2334
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 2: Those guys in Zach Mexico sent me some of their records.

2335
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 2: They're fantastic, jam band from out that way.

2336
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: I was, I love the guys, bro, you're going with

2337
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 1: the with the black shirt and the red tie. That's

2338
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: the math teacher at prom combo right there, my friend that.

2339
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 2: Looks like Appy when he's about to bang his students.

2340
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: Right there.

2341
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 2: You go. All right, Joseph, thank you for stopping by.

2342
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Benjamin. He says, Hey, MK, thanks

2343
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 2: for sticking to it and powering through the chaos of

2344
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 2: the last year. I rely on you to keep me

2345
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 2: in the combat Sports loop. While on the road doing

2346
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,799
Speaker 2: my next stint, the three hour trek to this cliff

2347
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 2: was powered by your podcast. I'm at KURF for jag

2348
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: Norway three six and forty two feet. They used a

2349
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 2: helicopter to bring a giant human catapult up to the

2350
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,679
Speaker 2: top of the cliff and they launched themselves. Holy crap, Luke,

2351
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:46,799
Speaker 2: Benjamin's crazy.

2352
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Any wait, that's him doing the shit.

2353
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah.

2354
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 1: White people, bro, they love they love being daredevils.

2355
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 2: Wow, that white guy Benjamin representing MK Luke. People take

2356
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 2: them with us when they proposed to their wife, like

2357
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:02,799
Speaker 2: we're in their lives.

2358
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 1: That's insane, dude, that's like, I mean that must be

2359
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 1: an amazing experience. But at the same time that looks

2360
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 1: a little bit terrifying, a little bit terrifying.

2361
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 2: Right, what balls that man has? Benjamin? All right, let's

2362
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 2: hear from Dez Luke. You love when Dez mahaalows his

2363
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 2: way in.

2364
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah for sure?

2365
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: All right? Oh that's no, that's I'm thinking of the

2366
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 2: other guy. This is does This is the guy. This

2367
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 2: is the guy Dez who sent us a Christmas card.

2368
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 2: Remember during our drinking show we opened it. Yes, so

2369
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 2: Dez says Christmas greetings from Ireland. We say Christmas greetings

2370
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 2: instead of Holiday greetings here. No, MK Donk's tree is

2371
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 2: complete without the amazing MK decoration. Don't forget to use

2372
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: the code live ten at the checkout. We don't know

2373
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,879
Speaker 2: if anyone will be there to deliver the decoration you purchased,

2374
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 2: but we'll take your money. That's not inaccurate. For the record,

2375
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 2: By the way, this accompanying aria to this video is

2376
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 2: the MK donks a cappella version of Deck the Halls.

2377
01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for all the amazing content this year, all the best.

2378
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 2: It's Dez from Cork. All right, let's see what he's

2379
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 2: got going on.

2380
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 9: Dog don't don't don't don't don't don't don't dum dum

2381
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 9: dum dum dung don't do don't dunk don don don

2382
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 9: don don don don don don dung dung tm dong

2383
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 9: dong dong dong dong don't don't dun don don don't

2384
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 9: dun don.

2385
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 2: Oh oh, dude, that's awesome. Did he does? Dude? Des

2386
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: made that about us, Luke to be a part of

2387
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 2: his holiday life.

2388
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 1: We used to sell ornaments or did he make that?

2389
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 2: I think he made that, by the way, Yeah, yeah,

2390
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 2: he's not wrong about it, merch. But thank you very

2391
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 2: much on that, Dez. He also said p S don't

2392
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 2: focus too much on Reddit and Twitter. The silent majority

2393
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 2: of donks really loved the content, and p p s

2394
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: please get an m K account on Blue Sky. Some

2395
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 2: of us try to avoid the sewer that is Twitter. Luke,

2396
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: are you on Blue Sky?

2397
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't use it much, but I am there.

2398
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that's not my thing. I mean, Twitter sucks,

2399
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 2: but you know what else you got Chan, It's the

2400
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 2: same thing. It always sucked, right, So it's just all right,

2401
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 2: let's go.

2402
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: Over there Twitter. Twitter is awful in every way.

2403
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you elon. Let's hear from Eddie here,

2404
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 2: he says Luke in BC. This post may not be

2405
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 2: exactly rocking MK merch, but it was one fan sub

2406
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 2: I've got to send in like no other. These first

2407
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: few photos are me eight years ago when I was

2408
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 2: pushing two hundred and seventy pounds. This past weekend was

2409
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 2: easily one of the most memorable of my life. Long

2410
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 2: story shirt short After listening to Luke and other journalists

2411
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: talk about BJJ, I finally took it up last year.

2412
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 2: I started my training in Nogi on and off for

2413
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 2: a year. I decided about five months ago that I

2414
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 2: wanted to get ready for a tournament. So I decided

2415
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 2: to transition no, not the way BC is thinking, and

2416
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 2: get out there in the kimono gee and get more

2417
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 2: training and conditioned into competing. So this past weekend I

2418
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: ended up entering my first bj J tournament. I entered

2419
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: myself into the Tap Cancer Out event in Danvers, Massachusetts,

2420
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 2: their largest event of the year. Faced off against thirteen

2421
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 2: competitors in the master's thirty and over white belt lightweight division.

2422
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 2: I made a highlight of the weekend's performance and he

2423
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 2: had a guillotine win in a minute twenty five in

2424
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 2: the first match, he rallied for victory in the second one.

2425
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, what do you think about this guy's

2426
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 2: physical journey?

2427
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: This guy eddy very commendable and you know, not bad.

2428
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 1: This is actually pretty good for where he's at. And

2429
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: he's got some good ideas and good patience. Oh he

2430
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 1: tried to step over with him. That's a bad idea.

2431
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: But in general you can see like he might be

2432
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 1: technically unrefined in certain ways, but he's got he's got

2433
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good He's got good balance, he's got

2434
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 1: good base, he's got good pinning here. This is nice.

2435
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: He's got got of good stuff going on. That's much better.

2436
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: We go, Yeah, he says.

2437
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jesse Ericson, Travis and Camwells who have

2438
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 2: cornered and coached me throughout this chapter of my life.

2439
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 2: He says, Luke, I'd love to send you the entire

2440
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes it took me to get four wins and

2441
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 2: take home the gold. See what I can do better

2442
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: with my game. Oh, that's awesome of you, Luke, So

2443
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 2: send it to him, Eddie.

2444
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke Thomas news at gmail dot com, send it

2445
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: to me.

2446
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 2: All right, all right, good out, hey Eddie. Great on

2447
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 2: you for having a goal, having something you a passion

2448
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 2: and going after it. And even if you had a pitfall,

2449
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 2: you decided, you know what, I'm going for it, dude,

2450
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 2: you put your dreams first, go for it. Look at

2451
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 2: what's happening to this guy. But I mean, wow, wait,

2452
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 2: look he touched me and I was consensual with it.

2453
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's a little weird.

2454
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 2: But okay, all right, let's get over to Anthony. He says.

2455
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 2: Look and BC, it's been a while. This is little

2456
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 2: Anthony Luke, the Fakeswell you remember this guy, yes, he says,

2457
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 2: V and I have missed the MK universe and happy

2458
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 2: to see you. Guys are back to doing fan subs,

2459
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: sharing a few photos of what life has been like

2460
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 2: for us in twenty twenty four. In March, we went

2461
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 2: to Miami to cheer on Ecuadorian brother Cheeto, and on

2462
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 2: September twenty eighth, we got married up next making a baby.

2463
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 2: We'll check in with you, donks in twenty twenty five,

2464
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: Sending our love from Chicago. It's little Anthony Luke. These two,

2465
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 2: Anthony and V have very much lived the MK journey.

2466
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 2: Through the big moments of their lives and they are

2467
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 2: like family to us. Even if we haven't been on

2468
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 2: the road lately and it's a new MK era, the

2469
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 2: era is still a little Anthony and V being one

2470
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 2: of us.

2471
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

2472
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, major congratulations Felissa Tezi on us a whole bit. Yeah, listen,

2473
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 1: what can I add? We greatly appreciate their fandom and

2474
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: to see their lives growing in a positive direction. What

2475
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 1: more could you want for people? Yeah? What more could

2476
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 1: you want?

2477
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know, nudes, Luke, But you know that would

2478
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 2: be that would be too far, That definitely would.

2479
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 1: DC wants a side podcast where he begs the wives.

2480
01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 2: Of that's disgusting. All right. Our final one, I believe

2481
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 2: here is from a guy we like a lot, average

2482
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Joe Art Right, and Joe says it's been too long.

2483
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 2: After years of talking about it and teasing the fans,

2484
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 2: Luken BC finally go tip to tip, albeit not in

2485
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 2: the way most thoughts some had hoped. The past eleven

2486
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 2: months have been really really busy for me, and with

2487
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 2: MK being resurrected as a once a week show, I

2488
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 2: thought fan subs, my beloved segment was gone. Forever. I

2489
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 2: couldn't have been happier with the addition of the Friday

2490
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 2: Show and the announcement that my favorite segment is returning.

2491
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 2: I think it needed a shot in the arm, I've noticed,

2492
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 2: so hopefully we can all have it returned to its

2493
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 2: former glory and even make it better this time around. Luke,

2494
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 2: what are you thinking about this dragon ball thing? Right here?

2495
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 1: Dragonball Z? Now here's the problem. I don't know enough

2496
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 1: about dragon Ball Z to give too much commentary. What

2497
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: I can say is a couple of things. I got

2498
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 1: the Chewbacca shirt on. That's awesome. Second of all, you

2499
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 1: can see the tattoo on the inside of my right arm,

2500
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 1: which is correct.

2501
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 2: Yes.

2502
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 1: And you've got the sweat outfit that you wore for

2503
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 1: what interview were we doing BC where you were all

2504
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:08,200
Speaker 1: white at Michael?

2505
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 5: Yes?

2506
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 2: And I had the one love hat on? Yeah?

2507
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: If yeah? I mean, what does the heart say on

2508
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: your chest?

2509
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 2: I can't read that it's too it's too small for

2510
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 2: me to read.

2511
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 1: But can you see.

2512
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 5: It says one like for straways.

2513
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 2: Oh, that's brilliant, drawways one fifteen.

2514
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

2515
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy knows me so freaking well. Joe

2516
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 2: says fun fact, when I when I get the opportunity

2517
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 2: to work with fighters, I asked them what got them

2518
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 2: into fighting, and the top three answers are Ninja, Turtles,

2519
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 2: Power Rangers, and Dragonball, which Joe knew next to nothing

2520
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 2: about before attempting to create artwork for the Almighty himself

2521
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 2: Arnold Allen, and in doing research, Joe saw episodes together

2522
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 2: U featuring fusion two dudes each put on a dangly

2523
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 2: airring and go tip to tip and fuse together into

2524
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 2: one being no joke, it was perfect to return for

2525
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 2: m K. I'm sorry that one got me, he adds Luke,

2526
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 2: I didn't bother putting it on a T shirt since

2527
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 2: apparently a ghost is running the merch shop. But maybe

2528
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 2: one day they'll throw up the signal for me to return.

2529
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 2: In the meantime, make fans ubs great again. PS Viva Barbis,

2530
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 2: it's your of the year.

2531
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing He's doing?

2532
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 2: Who Barbis or average Joe?

2533
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 1: No barbs big thanks to average Joe. That is fucking awesome.

2534
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 1: I would love to make use of it if we can.

2535
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Let me look at that.

2536
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 2: That is so so hey. Thank you to all our folks.

2537
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,839
Speaker 2: Remember Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Is the email address.

2538
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 2: Hit us with dead wrong, hit us with fan s ubs. Hey,

2539
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 2: you got a message for us? Send it? No stick picks.

2540
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 2: That's not fair to Mikey, you.

2541
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 5: Know what I mean?

2542
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 1: Plug anything else?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, tune in six am tomorrow for the watch a

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Speaker 6: long Also, Gaff, I want to plug his channel one

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Speaker 6: more round fights.

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Speaker 5: Go check out Gaff's new YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's Gaff putting out there?

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Speaker 5: Gaff's got a bunch of stuff going on.

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Speaker 6: He does bets based off the UFC video game, like

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Speaker 6: simulated fights, so like based on the results of the simulation,

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Speaker 6: he'll place bets on it.

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Speaker 5: It's a new thing he started. It's pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: I've never played any UFC fighting game ever.

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Speaker 5: Neither of But I also do Bonus systems.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're really fun, really fun.

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02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 1: I'll play the funk out of Mortal Kombat.

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02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 2: I'll play dude designing the tattoos on my fighters like I.

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Speaker 2: You know, if they win, they get to get a

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Speaker 2: new tattoo, Luke, and then by the end of their

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Speaker 2: career they look like, you know, like I did on

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Speaker 2: Halloween that time.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are more financial investments, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go? All right, Hey, that's the show

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Speaker 2: we got for you this week. I hope you saw it.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it. Follow us on those social

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Speaker 2: channels we showed below, all of our YouTube channels there

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Speaker 2: as well. Uh don't I don't think we should. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: forget about the merchant for now. But well, look, well

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Speaker 2: we're putting things back together. It's just it's just taking time.

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Speaker 2: It's taking time.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been a long year. It's been a long year.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long December. But you know, there's reasons

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Speaker 2: to believe maybe this year will be better than the last,

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Speaker 2: you know, I fucking hope. Yeah, all right, for Long Island,

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Speaker 2: Luke Regular Luke and your boy BC. Take care of yourself, folks.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Kid Rutolo follow his ship. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're out of here.