1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon and 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: it's great to have you tuning in today because I 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: am excited to be reunited with one of the many 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: incredible people I met on the campaign trail in the 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: state of Michigan. Ian Murphy is the owner of the 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Iron Pig Smokehouse in Galored, Michigan, and one of the 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: fighters against the lockdowns that Gretchen Whimber had in a state, 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: A really serious fighter and you got kind of in 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: trouble for that. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: So you're one of the bold people in the state. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: And I think you're sort of I would say you're 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: being vindicated right now. But welcome to the program. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. And yeah, vindication. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Having a published opinion come from the Court of Appeals 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: is a big deal. So that's the vindication that you're 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: speaking of. And it's not even our case that was 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: ruled on in the Court of Appeals last week, but 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: it upholds our win in the lower court ruling. So 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: yay for freedom and ya for judges with some sense. 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Well, so for folks that are outside of the state 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: of Michigan, they may not know that Michigan had the 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: longest restaurant lockdown of any state in the United States. 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: I think it was a full eight months when you 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: put it all together, that restaurants were locked down. 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: We were locked down from March until June. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: There was a small time that it was open, then 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: the holidays again, and then I think it was almost 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: through the next March again, right that the restaurants were 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: locked down. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it's hard for me to remember because 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: we stayed open for your rea, right, all of that 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: we stayed. We were closed the first part in early 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty when we really didn't know what 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: was going on. But yeah, on the fall November, basically 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: the day before Thanksgiving, the biggest bar night of the year, 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I made the decision to stay and take on one 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day fine in doing so. 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: And what people I think also maybe don't know about this, 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: and this was why people in Michigan were so shocked 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: by what was happening, is that the governor was extending 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: her emergency powers, extending them time and time again, and 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: using them to pick and choose who actually got to 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: make a living and who didn't, who was essential and 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: who was not. We all remember essential workers. And so 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: she was told she was slapped on that wrist, I mean, essentially, 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: and these powers were taken away by the Michigan Supreme 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: Court because the people stood up and said, this is outrageous. 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: You cannot keep us from making a living. And so 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: most of the businesses at that point were able to 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: reopen when she was told you no longer have these 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: executive powers, which she kept telling people, you know, the 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: Republicans are making it so that I can't keep people safe. 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: Obviously you were able to stay open and people were safe, 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: and that was the real kicker was She then somehow 57 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: decided to transfer her executive powers over to the Department 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: of Health in Human Services, who then came in and 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: shut the restaurants down. 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: Isn't that right? 61 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: It is? And you know what's interesting is when we 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: go back and look at the entire timeline from the 63 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: very first executive order, she used three different mechanisms. She 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: used the EPGA, which you're referring to as now unconstitutional. 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: She also issued through the Health Department this health Law, 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: and a couple of others. That has now been ruled unconstitutional. 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: And she also used the proper method, which was the 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Emergency Management Act, which is what the founding fathers intended, 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: which means she has to go back twenty eight days 70 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: later to authorize more lockdowns or more whatever it is 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: that they're trying to do. And I equate it to 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: folks up here in northern Michigan. Emergency Management Act gets 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: used nearly every winter when there's a terrible, terrible snowstorm 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: like we have this year, actually during Christmas, the local 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: authorities come out and say, you can't be on the roads. 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: It's unsafe. You're putting others in danger by being out there. 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Usually that's less than twenty four hours, but if they 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: had to, they could go twenty eight days. Now she's 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: been found in violation of that in that October Supreme 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Court ruling as well. But that's the whole point is 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: we're supposed to interject our elected officials, and if we 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: don't like what they're doing, then we can unelect them, right, 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: we can recall them. That's the entire point of our 84 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: argument from the beginning is one unelected official made devastating 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: decisions all the way around forget about what just happened 86 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: with the restaurants, but the nursing home stuff and all 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: of the other things that have come from this. This 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Health Law two two five to three that the Court 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: of Appeals published last week as an unconstitutional ruling now 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: undoes all of that. So there is now a look 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: at everything that that health law was used for. Myosha, 92 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: the Liquor Commission, the schools used it to put mass 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: on the kids in the fall of August of twenty 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: twenty one, three days before school right here in Gaylord, 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: the local health director decided to put masks on the kids. 96 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: We had a meeting here at the Iron Pig because 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: we were going through some of that battle, and out 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: of that came another lawsuit, let them Breathe versus our 99 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: local health Department here that was just struck down in 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: the Court of Appeals nearly the exact same day that 101 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: this ruling came out, and the courts there said it 102 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: was moot because the mandates had been rescinded and there 103 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: is no longer a COVID nineteen emergency, and they feel 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: like if it does happen again, well you can just 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: bring your lawsuit back. Is basically what of Appeals said, 106 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: So it is outrageous and it's sort of activist judges, 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: if you will, kind of doing these things. So on 108 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: one hand, we had a really nice win in the 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Court of Appeals, but in the other hand, and they're 110 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: not the same law, they're different laws. You can see 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: the disparity in these judges and the rulings and how 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: we have to fight so hard over and over and over. 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: You know, the Democrats are really great at coming out 114 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: and saying the other side. They have all these organizations 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: that come out and say the other side is bad 116 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: because of this, and then they build themselves up on 117 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: their platforms and running I think, in my position running 118 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: against her. 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: We did not have. 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: Those groups that came out and attacked for all of 121 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: these things that Gretchen Whitmer had done. And I think 122 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: it was from the Republican side such an eye opener 123 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: that we don't have these nonprofit organizations that are coming 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: out and saying, hey, these are the things that happen, 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: these are the issues that caused you all this harm, 126 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: and this is the person who supported all these issues. 127 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: And that's something that I think right now is critical 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: because we are seeing multiple puff pieces written on Gretchen Whitmer. 129 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: We see it in the Atlantic, we see it in Politico, 130 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: we see it in Vanity Fair. She got a big 131 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: puff piece and all all the Democrats are saying, we 132 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: really wish that she could be our president. And I mean, 133 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: how devastating is it that this is a woman who 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: time and time again has had the Supreme Court come 135 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: down and say, actually, what you did was unconstitutional. Essentially, 136 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: you are breaking the law to the highest extent as governor, 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: and you don't care. And she didn't care because she 138 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: knew it. And then she went around and tried to 139 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: figure out a way to continue to do it. It 140 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: very much reminds me of Joe Biden right now, knowing 141 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: that he could not provide loan forgiveness to students, and 142 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: then conveniently getting the Supreme Court court ruling right as 143 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: we're going into election time again so he can campaign 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: on that again. Don't worry, folks, I'm going to find 145 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: a way. I'll do it illegally again. What do you 146 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: think when you see these puff pieces on Gretchen Whitmer 147 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: and people saying she's got to be the one. We've 148 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: got to make sure that Joe goes out to the 149 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: nursing home and we put Whitmer in you know, short memories. 150 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, to put it that succinctly with regards to the 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: last race here in Michigan and well across the country. Honestly, 152 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: I think there were some issues that overshadowed what should 153 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: have been the main conversation with regards to re electing Whitmer, 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of those things were pushed aside in 155 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: favor of a certain issue, So it never was discussed 156 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: well enough and talked about enough about the effects that 157 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: she did have. You know, all the industry, service industry 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: people that were out of jobs, the restaurants. 159 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: That were one hundred thousand. 160 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: It's insane. And that's just one sector of tiny sector 161 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: of our economy. It shouldn't say tiny. Hospitality is awfully 162 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: pretty big here in Michigan. But comparatively, when you're talking 163 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: about auto industry, you know, early on there was some 164 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: issues with contractors. You know, Myosha. Myosha was coming in 165 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: and citing these four contractors, well, you've got too many, 166 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: too many. 167 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: The Myosha shameless I forgot about that. You were posted 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: on the internet by on a Myowa's a shame list 169 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: if you were breaking Whitmer's rules. 170 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I met a gentleman yesterday here in the restaurant. 171 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: He came down to our prep kitchen where our studio 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: actually is. And he's a firefighter from ann Arbor who 173 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: basically was fired for not getting a vaccination and because 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: he didn't receive a religious exemption. So he's got an 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: ongoing lawsuit. I mean, these are the people that are 176 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: that are supposed to be protecting us and they want 177 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: to boot him out the door. Mean, it's so counterintuitive. 178 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: But back to the original point, I think short term 179 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: memories is really what has happened. And I think if 180 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Whitmer decides to do anything beyond being the governor of Michigan, 181 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: and I see at hard that she doesn't, people just 182 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: have to remember exactly what it is that she did. 183 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: And it goes back to basic civics. Right right, be 184 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: separate but equal branches of government. And this is what 185 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: we talk about in our podcast a lot is there 186 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: is now a fourth branch of government, which we call 187 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: the administrative state. That's what has happened here in Michigan 188 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: is the executive has created this. I think there are 189 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: two agencies short of their constitutional max for executive branch agencies, 190 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: the Liquor Commission myosia. 191 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: Those people that live past term limits that you cannot touch. 192 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: Yes, hm, So there's this great big blood. We've known 193 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: this for years. At the federal level, that EPA is. 194 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, there was a Supreme Court ruling that came 195 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: out last year, was great ruling. It says, this is 196 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: this agency doesn't have the power to be doing this, 197 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: and that's what's happening here in Michigan. At the state level, 198 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: the Liquor Commission came after us because they were the 199 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: ones with the biggest weapon, if you will, to rescind 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: my license. Then they came and took my food license 201 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: through the Department of Agriculture via the Health Department. Who 202 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: are the people I have to work with two to 203 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: three times a year. These four folks don't want to 204 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: come in here and have to be doing these things. 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: A local police are telling me, I've got to do 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: my job. But if I weren't, I'd be sitting here 207 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: having a beer with you right now. 208 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 209 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. How do you heart a restaurant? 210 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: You take their liquor license, and a lot of people don't. 211 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: Other states don't have a liquor control commission. Not all 212 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: states have one. Michigan is so fortunate that we get 213 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: to have this where people can come in and take 214 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: your liquor license and shut you down, and that gives 215 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: the governor this extreme power. I mean, it reminds me 216 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: of the movie Aladdin, where it's like I have all 217 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: the power. That's what I kept thinking. When she's doing this, 218 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: she's just she just is going in and destroying. And 219 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: that subject that you talked about that you said you 220 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: didn't mention that was abortion. And let's be honest about 221 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: she won on abortion. She won by saying that she's 222 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: going to provide unlimited abortion. And the crazy thing is 223 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: that a few weeks before the election, we were called 224 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: into the Detroit Chamber, I think it was or someone 225 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: had not a debate, but where we could both give 226 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: our views, and they asked, Michigan is in dire straits 227 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to the economy. We have lost so 228 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: many jobs, and we lost jobs I think was eighty 229 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: two thousand jobs that we ended up not getting back 230 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: after the pandemic and twenty thousand of those were in 231 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: the hospitality sector. Her answer to how are you going 232 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: to get those jobs back? What are you offering to 233 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: bring companies here? She said, I'm offering an abortion. I mean, 234 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: that was her answer to economic recovery in the state 235 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: of Michigan. I find it interesting because we're just finding 236 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: out in the last week that that was our big 237 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: plan was LGBTQ rights and abortion. And in her budget 238 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: that she just signed, she slashed the budget on tourism. 239 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: And that is really important to our hospitality sector, to 240 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: our restaurants, to our hotels. This is after this huge 241 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: insult of twenty twenty. She just slashes tourism and nobody 242 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: talks about it. I mean, that is a big part 243 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: of Michigan. We've got lakes, we've got skiing, we've got 244 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: everything that you can do outdoors, and yet we are not. 245 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: Bringing people here. 246 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I think people don't 247 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: think about is one of the ways that you can 248 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: reduce taxes in your state is to increase tourism. 249 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: Have your friends come in pay for you. You know, 250 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: That's what Florida does. 251 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: They're successful in not having income tax because they bring 252 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: people to their state to visit. 253 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: She doesn't care about that. 254 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: And it's again counterintuitive to me everything that we've seen 255 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: and the numbers bear this out. Tourism is on fire 256 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: in Michigan right now. So why not make hay while 257 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: the sun shining. I say, campgrounds are put are packed 258 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: booked weeks months in advance. Now we've got a new 259 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: really upscale RV motor park home just a mile away 260 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: from us here downtown. Why that decision was made? But yeah, 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about incentives to bring the film industry back 262 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: here again. We know that didn't work the first time. 263 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: Why are you trying these things that didn't work, but 264 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: yet incentivizing that things and the reasons why people do 265 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: come to Michigan. And there is so much money that 266 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: is being spent. My family is in the action motor 267 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: sales business, right, RVs, sports cars, boats, all kinds of things. 268 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: This is what especially our little community here in northern 269 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: Michigan is completely built on our economy and our population 270 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: quadruples at least in the summertime right now. So let's 271 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: be honest, she's kind of ignoring those of us up 272 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: north here. 273 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, she's the chief executive of the state and she 274 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: has no idea, no business sense whatsoever, and so the 275 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: state is just crumbling. If you look at from the 276 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: time she took office to today, the state was eleventh 277 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: in the country for economic outlook. We're thirty six today. 278 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: She talks, she touts a budget in education that is 279 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: the highest budget we've ever seen in the history of 280 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: the state of Michigan. And she has touted that every year. 281 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: So she has increased for five years now. She has 282 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: increased the education budget in the state of Michigan. And 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: we are in the bottom ten in the country for education. 284 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: And if you are a black student in the state 285 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: of Michigan, you are very unlikely to know how to 286 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: read because the reading proficiency and math proficiency went from 287 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: being in the bottom ten to the bottom five under 288 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: Gretchen Whitmer. And yet somehow she's continuing to get people 289 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: to believe that she cares for people, but she really 290 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: has not done anything in the state of Michigan that 291 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: cares for people. But you told me an interesting story 292 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: about schools in Gaylord, Because I think what people need 293 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: to understand is you're a small, tight knit northern Michigan 294 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: community that cares about your students and wants to see 295 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: the best opportunity for kids. But something kind of stuff 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: is happening in your elementary school. 297 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: So, you know, as part of this whole thing that 298 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: we've gone through and my experience with media, we started, 299 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, an ancillary podcast to try and tell stories 300 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: at our story, you know, the full narrative. In doing so, 301 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: we kind of have some interesting information start to infiltrate 302 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: our way. And I don't have my wife and I 303 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: don't have kids in our school system here. We don't 304 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: have kids, period, but I do pay taxes here, so 305 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I do fund our schools. Well, it came to my 306 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: attention sometime in June early June that there was an 307 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: open position that was being filled for our I believe 308 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: our North Ohio Elementary as for a para professional in 309 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the kindergarten and some candidates were put forward, and they 310 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: hired a grands woman to work at the North Ohio 311 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: as a para professional. A couple of the school board 312 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: members objected to the ring of this person. Her name 313 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: is Misha. I do not know her. She could be 314 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: a wonderful person, I don't know. The real question is 315 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: what I am hearing is this individual may not be 316 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: qualified for this position and has a very sketchy work history. 317 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: That work history and that CV was hidden from some 318 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: of the school board members or they weren't given all 319 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: of the information in order to make an informed decision. Now, 320 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: they did hire Misha here in Gaylard. But upon hearing 321 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: this again you said, a tight knit, small community, A 322 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: lot of parents reached out and said, you know, what 323 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: the heck is going on here? We do have a 324 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: new superintendent here in Gaylard. He is from the downstate area. 325 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: I do get the sense. And this is not my 326 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: personal opinion. I've only had one or two d with him, 327 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: but there is a sense of sort of a I 328 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: don't like this term, but maybe a new world order 329 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: sort of coming in here. And this is a pretty 330 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: conservative area up here in northern Michigan. I mean, let's 331 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: be honest, the majority of Michigan is relatively red except 332 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: for the metro areas, if you will. And it has 333 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: been speculated that this may be a test of the 334 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: new Elliott Larson Civil Rights Act. You know, if this 335 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: individual is harassed or is fired for any certain reason, 336 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: there would probably be an impending lawsuit. 337 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: So it's almost like baiting this because they did just 338 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: pass this law. And we've seen a lot of these 339 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: news organizations come out and say, you know, now in Michigan, 340 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: if you use the wrong pronouns, you could essentially go 341 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: to jail. 342 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: And then all the Democrat lawmakers went, oh, my gosh, 343 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: that's not true. That's not exactly what it says. 344 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: It's it's not verbatim what it says, but it could happen. 345 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: That's right. And what I see is a lot of 346 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: similarities to the upset people about the Florida bill they've 347 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: dubbed don't say gay bill. So it is more of 348 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: this meandering of language. And to tie it back in 349 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: with what we had going on with our lawsuit was 350 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: simply the language the gathering of all people for any reason. 351 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: That language right there was so broad and ambiguous to 352 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: do anything with it. And that's just what you're seeing 353 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: across the board. And when you talk about messaging and 354 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: these groups that are coming out and aren't getting good 355 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: messages out for candidates and short term memories, these are 356 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: sort of the things that we have to draw back 357 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: to and go, like, listen, this is not logical. Some 358 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: of these things are not logical with regards to the 359 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: parapro hiring here in Gaylord. What I've heard from some 360 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: of the parents is Okay, maybe in the high school. 361 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: Maybe at the high school where the kids are a 362 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: little bit more mature and understanding of this person's decisions, 363 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: But in an early learning environment. 364 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: In any school, if you have somebody that has a 365 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: sketchy work history and they're working with kids, don't we 366 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: want to have the best of the best. I mean, 367 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: that's why I say it feels like this is baiting 368 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 2: people to come out and they're going to say, Okay, now, 369 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 2: these conservatives are breaking the law, and you really have 370 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: a person who's not qualified to work with kids. 371 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Right, And that part of it has to be looked at. 372 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: And part of the issue here locally, I think is 373 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: that there is a little bit of trepidation about questioning 374 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: such things because there is a lot of peer pressure 375 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: revolving around this issue in our state, especially even more. 376 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: So some people don't really like jail, so that. 377 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: Don't like jail, right. I mean, there's so much ambiguity 378 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: in this thing that they're talking about. But again, peer pression. 379 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: I'm hearing you know, school board members that you know 380 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: don't want to run again if these things keep coming 381 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: up and it's going to be an issue. I feel 382 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: like there may be an issue with this superintendent here 383 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: in town. Again, I've only had one dealing with the guy. 384 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: We were able to raise over ten thousand dollars to 385 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: pay off school lunches for our community schools here, not 386 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: entirely us. But when we went to the superintendent to say, listen, 387 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: we've got eleven eight hundred dollars or whatever it is 388 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: that in basically one check to give to you, you 389 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: would be surprised at how difficult it was to give 390 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: them money to pay for student lunches. 391 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Interesting, well, now the lunches have been paid for by 392 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: the governor, so she's been out there touting that the 393 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: new budget has school lunches paid for for all public 394 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: schools and that's the answer to kids learning because they 395 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: won't be hungry. Now, Interestingly, what they never talk about 396 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: is that for kids that weren't going to have a lunch, 397 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: they were always paid for by the state, And so 398 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: that really can't be her excuse for why learning loss 399 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: is so great in the state of Michigan and proficiency 400 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: is so low in the state of Michigan. But you know, 401 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: they can use this, They can use these words and 402 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: make it seem like they're somewhat friendly. I mean, this 403 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: is how we're in the situation right now where if 404 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: you speak out against Goshen, which is the somewhat battery 405 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: component factory, we don't actually know what they're making because 406 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: in the state of Michigan, the lawmakers and the governors 407 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: sign non disclosure agreements when they give your taxpayer moneies 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: to a Chinese Communist company. I mean, this is a 409 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: company that is owned by people that are very involved 410 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: with the Chinese Communist Party. They have it in their 411 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: bylaws that they are connected to the Chinese Communist Party. 412 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: And she has been able to like she did with 413 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: the Health and Human Services director when it was coming 414 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: around the time that people were complaining about restaurants being 415 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: shut down, she has signed non disclosure secrecy agreements, and 416 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: we don't really know what's going on with these companies. 417 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: How does how do the people of northern Michigan feel 418 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: about that? 419 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's I've been following the Goshen issue a lot. 420 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: I take issue with the entirety idea of batteries or 421 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: the future electric vehicles or the future, but that's that's 422 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: for another discussion. So I don't even think that that 423 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: aid the taxpayers should be paying for it to begin with, 424 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a faulty investment all the 425 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: way around, whether it's a private or a public private 426 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: dual investment. I don't think it's good. Uh, there's some 427 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: environmental issues that I take issue with, and that's that's 428 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: what we're seeing up here up north. They recently tried 429 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: to expand our Air National Guard base in Gralling, Michigan, 430 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: adding thousands of acres for a new program there. Well, 431 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: there's an ongoing issue with pfasts in around the current 432 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: base as it is, and we're having issues getting that remediated. 433 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: So then we're going to talk about expanding their footprint. 434 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no. I think that was eventually finally 435 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: turned down. They got the hint that we don't want 436 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: more of that up here, especially if you're not going 437 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: to take care of our natural resources. That's what I'm 438 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: hearing from those folks around that Ghoshen plant. 439 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 440 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. What a lot of people around 441 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: the country may not understand is that our largest natural 442 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: resource in the state of Michigan is water. That and 443 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: we are one of the largest freshwater sources in the 444 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: country and in the world actually, so China has all 445 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: the reasons in the world to want to either be 446 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: here and contaminate our water source or take it for themselves. 447 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: The question is which would it be. 448 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: We don't know because for as many environmental tests as 449 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: there are for any other company in the state of Michigan, 450 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: including this base you're talking about, there have been no 451 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: tests required for the Chinese. 452 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: Why. 453 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: It seems just insane. And you know, I am not 454 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: a government I don't love government. The government should I'm libertarian, 455 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: it should be extremely limited. I'll tell you. The government 456 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: has does a good enough job of poisoning our natural 457 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: resources in and of themselves, right, So now we're going 458 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: to go and invite a sketchy company with sketchy ties 459 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: to come in and further pollute our natural resources. It 460 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: just it doesn't make any sense to me. And I 461 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: gotta be honest. I don't need a my tax dollars 462 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: and be my governor trying to find me a job. 463 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: That's the guise of this entire thing is we're bringing jobs. 464 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm going overseas to get investments. You're going overseas to 465 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: spend my tax dollars to quote, get me a job. 466 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I would argue, that's not what she's doing. 467 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: She is going overseas using our tax dollars. Who claim 468 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: she has foreign policy experience so that she can run 469 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: for president. I really believe that this is all a 470 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: bunch of bolognis. She's never spent time overseas. She's not 471 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: a business person. She has no idea how to connect 472 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: to the outside world, and she has no idea the 473 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: dangers of China. She and you know, you'll have people argue, well, 474 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: Rick Snyder, he brought a lot of Chinese companies in 475 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: and told us that he was going to partner with 476 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: Chinese companies. It was a different time. The worldview, the 477 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: global economy was different at that time. And we now 478 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: see the plan of China. We now see the dangers 479 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: of China, and many people and many national security experts 480 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: have come out and said, we are in a very 481 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: dangerous situation right now where they are marching on our doorsteps. 482 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 2: And this is not no longer a cold war. We 483 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: are looking at seeing an actual active military war with China, 484 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: and yet Gretchen Whitmer is the only person in the 485 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: state who can have TikTok, that is an elected official. 486 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: She is out there actively putting herself in jeopardy and 487 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: putting the state in jeopardy on TikTok. She is bringing 488 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: Chinese communists connected companies into the state of Michigan. And 489 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: yet no one is pushing back on this and saying, 490 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: why would you ever elevate this woman beyond the disaster 491 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: that she has created in Michigan Because we are truly 492 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: in a situation where no one will come here. You 493 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: talk about bringing jobs to the state, You know, I 494 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: do say she should bring jobs to the state. That 495 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: is her job. 496 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: She should make the state appealing enough. 497 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: And if that is working with the energy companies to say, hey, 498 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: get it together and stop having the highest energy prices 499 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: in the entire country. Hey, how about we don't have 500 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: an entire week in the middle of winter where we 501 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: have no electricity whatsoever? I mean, how would these people 502 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: drive their cars? They can't even heat their homes or 503 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: turn their lights on. But these are not the things 504 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: that this woman is concerned about. She is only concerned 505 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: about social issues and elevating herself on the cloud of 506 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: social issues and riding that cloud into DC. And I 507 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: think it's in cuibly dangerous that we have allowed this 508 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: to continue, and that really there are not people other 509 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: than you and me and a few others that are 510 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: speaking out and saying the destruction in Michigan is really 511 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: beyond the pale. 512 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: It really is. And it seems so simple, such a 513 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: very simple narrative to get out there, And I still 514 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: don't fully understand why nobody has gotten a full grasp 515 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: on it. Part of it is that, you know, the 516 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Republicans in the state no longer. There's a lot of 517 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: issues going on in that party in our state. I 518 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: can say that I'm not a Republican. I get to 519 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: say that, and I would say it either way. But 520 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: the real issue is that they need to call allows 521 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: around an idea, and the idea simply is that logic 522 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: has to come into play. Put your feel feels to 523 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: the side, stop being upset at everything, grow some thick skin, 524 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: stand up for your principles. Right, A lot of these 525 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: things that we're talking about aren't even necessarily political, but 526 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: they've been policized. Right. We're talking about the law I 527 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: say that all the time. These are statutes that were passed. 528 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: We took our ability and do process and went and 529 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: challenged it and had these laws overturned. And you can't 530 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: believe how many people are pissed at me. They will 531 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: never come to the Iron Pig because we stayed open, 532 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: or because I put my community in danger, or whatever 533 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: it was. But what happened is I simply said what 534 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: they're doing is wrong. There's a different way to do it, 535 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: and they should be doing it the right way, which 536 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: was using the Emergency Management Act. Not politicizing this whole thing, 537 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: but it was the easiest thing to do because it 538 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: ratchets up fear and it brings people's emotions to that level, 539 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and you start giving people a permission slip to treat 540 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: people a certain way because you're not doing what I'm doing. 541 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm a better person than you because I'm protecting my 542 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: community and you aren't. 543 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: But community is an interesting word there, because there is 544 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: something to be said for having a community. And when 545 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: I came to the Iron Pig, which is really on 546 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: Main Street downtown, and that main street in your downtown, 547 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: I think you said it had five restaurants before the 548 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: pandemic and then you were the last one standing. 549 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so everybody closed. We had the restaurant across the 550 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: street that does breakfast, she opened for a day. The 551 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: health department came in served her with the exact same 552 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: season desist and one thousand dollars a day potential. Fine, 553 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: but thankful. We've had I believe half a dozen restaurants 554 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: that are no longer existing here in Galor, but the 555 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: property across the street has new life in it. We 556 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: don't have I think maybe one restaurant here in Gaylor 557 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: that closed after the pandemic that moved to a second location, 558 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: so they had two Lokays. We seem to be kind 559 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: of recovered from that, but again, a lot of that 560 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: has to do it because we're in such a big 561 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: tourist area right here off the interstate, right in the 562 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: middle of the mitting up here. 563 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: Well, community is I think for people, community is the 564 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: most important thing, and I think it's amazing what you 565 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: were able to do to try to keep that community going. 566 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: And as I traveled through the state of Michigan, that 567 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: was the message that I heard from people, especially in 568 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: northern Michigan, over and over again. We've been left behind 569 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: our community was destroyed. We lost three thousand restaurants permanently 570 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: in the state of Michigan. So when you think about 571 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: all of the small communities that lost their traditional mom 572 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: and pop restaurants in their communities, that's losing community. And 573 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: when we talk about the responsibility of a governor and 574 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: even our mayors and big cities these you look at Dallas. 575 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: Over the last ten years, they've brought in two hundred 576 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: headquarters into Dallas, you know, not the state of Texas 577 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: into tell Us. And yet we're talking about I mean, 578 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: she puts out a press release if she gets twenty jobs. 579 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 2: We're expecting twenty jobs in twenty twenty six. It's like, 580 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? These are not successes. 581 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: My picture of whipmer over here. 582 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: I saw that. Yes, it is. 583 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: It's an incredible thing that they try to do. That 584 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: they're just putting all this fluff out there. It's ridiculous. 585 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: And the problem is we just need more people to 586 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: stand up and use logic in these things and be like, 587 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: twenty jobs, zippitydo dot yeah exactly. Well, And. 588 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: I think that what you've done is amazing. I love 589 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: that you continue to stand up tell people how they 590 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: listen to your podcast. 591 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: So our podcast is about everywhere you can find a podcast. 592 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: Fuel cast tv dot com is our website. Fuel casttv 593 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: dot com is our YouTube. Rumble Spotify handles all that stuff. 594 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Ironpigsmoke dot Com is where you can find out any 595 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: information on the Iron Pig. And we're actually getting ready 596 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: to file a new declaratory action here in not Cego 597 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: County within the next thirty days. So we're still fighting 598 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: the fight even though we have one, we're not done yet. 599 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for fighting, and we'll have you back. 600 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: We'll have you talk about all of this because I 601 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: think it's so important. I think it's important for people 602 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: out there who don't live what we live every day 603 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: in Michigan to understand what it. 604 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: Really is like. 605 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: And definitely, if you are in Galard, Michigan, go to 606 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: the Iron Pig Smoke House because everything there is absolutely delicious. 607 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: Ian Murphy is the owner. Thank you so much for 608 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: being on the podcast today. 609 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tudor, I appreciate it, and. 610 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: Thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 611 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: For this episode and others, go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com. 612 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: You can subscribe right there. 613 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: Or check out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 614 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts and join us the next time 615 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 616 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: Have a great day.