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Speaker 1: It's time for the almost famous podcast. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: this week did not disappoint. Yes, it's four hours of television,

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Speaker 1: but these four hours felt to me more engaging than

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Speaker 1: previous weeks. I felt more paradise e than most weeks.

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Speaker 1: And we're here to talk about it right here with Ashley. Hello, Ashley, Hello, Benjamin,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you? How was

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Speaker 1: your trip? Okay? So here's the deal. Today is my

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Speaker 1: first full day in Colorado in over a month. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. Well. October was

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Speaker 1: a really hard month. Um. It started out uh with

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Speaker 1: Pruitt and Grant Trout's wedding UH in Dallas. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: did Mexico, as I mentioned, for my buddy Brandon, UM,

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Speaker 1: it was his kind of UM. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's his last Mexical trip. I don't want to say that.

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Speaker 1: You never know, Like I hope it's many more Mexico

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Speaker 1: trips to go. But the Secrets resort, and I just

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Speaker 1: got to give him a shout out. UM. I tried

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Speaker 1: to get a free trip there. They wouldn't give me

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Speaker 1: a free trip. So there is nothing behind this other

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Speaker 1: than the fact that they were so kind to him.

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Speaker 1: They built customized wheelchair ramps in the sand so they

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Speaker 1: they planted a tree. Uh in honor of Um. Not

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Speaker 1: in memory of an honor of So He's gonna go

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Speaker 1: back and visit, I believe a thousand more times, but

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Speaker 1: in honor of Brandon and his wife Sam. It was

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Speaker 1: a special trip, really really great to just be with

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Speaker 1: Jess on the beach. She read three books. I read

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Speaker 1: like three fourths of one of mine, and we were

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Speaker 1: reading as much. That's that's just how fast of a

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Speaker 1: Rhode Island this month as well, uh, with a lot

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles where else? That's somewhere else, all within this month.

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Speaker 1: So I'm back in Denver now, hanging out with Whalen,

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Speaker 1: hanging out my wife here to talk to you about Paradise,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more excited. I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: a quick I know I'm taking over the first of

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Speaker 1: this episode, but I gotta tell you really cool story

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Speaker 1: real quick, can't I yes, please, But can you talk

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Speaker 1: about Maddie's wedding later in the episode right Bachelor headlines,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to just cover that thing. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you all the juicy details. And okay, good, thank you.

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Speaker 1: There's like all of Bachelor Nation. They're pretty sure she

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Speaker 1: invited her entire Peter season. It was a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people I've never met in person before.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you, um, as as most times

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Speaker 1: when I meet people from the show that I've never

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Speaker 1: this is special. So okay, last night, it's Halloween. I love.

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Speaker 1: I love one part about Halloween that is sitting at

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Speaker 1: our neighborhood is packed full of kids trick or treating.

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Speaker 1: that is so hilarious, cool and terrifying, terrifying. So my mom,

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Speaker 1: It's posted on my stories. Elks are like the big

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Speaker 1: moose like things, not like man dear right, not male deer. No, No,

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Speaker 1: like a reindeer. You gotta get on and check it out.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening this, just get on look at it

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Speaker 1: it's hilarious. I think it's fascinating. Even living out here

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Speaker 1: for ten years, I still get excited when an elk

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Speaker 1: Like my mom's so nerve, is so scared, like, please, don't, don't,

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Speaker 1: What are their reputations? Are they friendly? I would I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say they're friendly. Yes, they're they're very they're very

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Speaker 1: But there there are stories of elk, like especially in

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Speaker 1: that was my Halloween. Um, well, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: Everybody can check out my Halloween on my Instagram. It's

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Speaker 1: I feel like the theme of this episode, Ashley is

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Speaker 1: confused usion and not confusion in the sense that we've

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Speaker 1: know when the when the group split in relationship. Now

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Speaker 1: another relationship that exists on the beach for them. I felt,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this week I watches and I it

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Speaker 1: the confusion of Love in Paradise. I agree. And you

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Speaker 1: like this episode was really These episodes are compelling, and yes,

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Speaker 1: those new people are just kind of like for us

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Speaker 1: serious from well except for maybe Justin. Yah, I take

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Speaker 1: one of those moments where it's like, oh, I like you,

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Speaker 1: Paradise is not touched from producers. That's what people say, right.

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Speaker 1: Paradise is set up to be produced. It's an isolated environment,

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Speaker 1: relationships that already exist. I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 1: else would have really remained? Genevieven Aaron, there's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: explain to me this drama with them at the beginning

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Speaker 1: some would say it's passion. I think that's a word

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Speaker 1: at really every turn. But you know, I do know

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Speaker 1: personally take that digs at them, but they argue and

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Speaker 1: to be seeing kind of if this is healthy or not.

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Speaker 1: But I do feel like it's it's a very passionate relationship.

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Speaker 1: married now a year coming up in in less than

424
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: two weeks, and I would I would speak to my

425
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: wife in a very similar way that I don't want

426
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: to tell you what you can and can't do. If

427
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: you want to go out your friends and like, go

428
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: do it. But you know, I was excited about spending

429
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: the time on the couch with you because I miss you.

430
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: Totally different conversation than just saying, yeah, go out with

431
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: your friends. And then she comes back, she's like, hey,

432
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: we'd planned two weeks ago to uh spending even in

433
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: the couch. You don't even seem to care. It's like, well,

434
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: I mean I did, gear, but I just want to

435
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: say it. No, you've got to reassure, speak honestly and openly,

436
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: and then make sure people know why, um, why you're

437
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: saying to go because Roddy doesn't want a controller. And

438
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's fair. I think both

439
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: sides right and wrong. I think she didn't feel reassured,

440
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: and I think he didn't. I think he thought he

441
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: handled it perfectly because he didn't stop her. M hm hm. Yeah.

442
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Well you'll see more an episode two, you guys how

443
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Rodney feels about that decision. Um. But let's talk about

444
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: the actual thing that we saw in this episode, which

445
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: is the date between Justin and Eliza Ben, how do

446
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: you think it went? You know, I'm, I'm, I'm. It's

447
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: really hard for me personally because I am such a

448
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: fan of Eliza and Rodney. We've said it every week.

449
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: It's a couple that I just felt. Maybe we didn't

450
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: see the law moments, but to me, it just felt

451
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: like the chemistry and the connection and the passion and

452
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: honesty and the flirtation was there from the beginning, and

453
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: so anybody else that sits down with the Liza now,

454
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: I can't hardly even picture it. It's hard for most,

455
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: definitely how the cast feels. The cast is so vocal

456
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: about being team Rodney. Well, yeah, because I think there's

457
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: a side of that where Justin it was a no

458
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: win win situation for him. He showed up to the

459
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: beach to pursue this person that he was interested in.

460
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: He's already been to the beach, he already had his shot.

461
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: So you know, there's no rules in Paradise. Well, I

462
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: guess that's true because people can come and go, and

463
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: we've seen it multiple times. But I don't think you know,

464
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know any It's hard for

465
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: me to say what's right and wrong. In Paradise, Justin

466
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: obviously hurt his friend Rodney in the process. He also

467
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: was pursuing somebody that he I believe, thought could be

468
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: his match. But I do think I feel similar to

469
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: the cast in the sense that I just can't picture

470
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: her without Rodney right now, especially on the beach. I

471
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to see it, it would

472
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: be really it's really sad for me to see this

473
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: relationship go the way it is, because I just I

474
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: had so much hope for it. It could be one

475
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: of those things that they come back stronger from, so

476
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: we shall see. But I think it's a big point

477
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: that they do kiss underneath the yeah and yeah with

478
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: fireworks in the background and all that, and there's these

479
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: think a lot of physical attraction there. Well, there's these

480
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: hints going on, and maybe I missed where it was

481
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: clearly stated, but there's these hints that Justin Eliza have

482
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: a past um that they knew each other or had

483
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: talked to each other at least before this show, and

484
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: so I wonder if that has to play into it too,

485
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: where they may they're both excited to meet each other.

486
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: I know she was excited to meet Rodney. But you know,

487
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: you don't go to the beach just thinking typically about

488
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: one person. There's three people that you're interested in. So

489
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: she's exploring her options. Um, I think there's a little

490
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: bit of it's a little different now. And this is

491
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: to credit her for what she did. Is she came

492
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: on late into the season, later into the season, and

493
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: so we feel like, oh, yeah, these relationships are so

494
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: far along and so progressed that how is she going

495
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: and dating other people? Where if this was week one,

496
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: then her and Rodney had been together for a week,

497
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and then week two, Justin shows up and she says,

498
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go take a date with Justin because it

499
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: feels like I want to explore it. We would will

500
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: you be a lot less shocked? Um? But because she

501
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: came late and Rodney her connected late, now we feel

502
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: like there's a heavier um weight on their relationship and

503
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case. I think we

504
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: might be building that up in our heads. That is

505
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: so true. Uh, And also I understand the curiosity that

506
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: like when the person I bet you she wanted both,

507
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, I bet you she was looking out for

508
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: both guys. I mean, Rodney was waiting for her to

509
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: come down those stairs. But there's definitely got to be

510
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: a curiosity if like the person that you wanted to

511
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: see it comes down after you're already in a relationship,

512
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: you're probably like, well what if? Like you, like I

513
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: said in times on this podcast, I'm all about eliminating

514
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the what ifs. So going on the date could have

515
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: done that, but I think it's more of going to

516
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: be a torn situation with her. Yeah yeah, well, Um,

517
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: that relationship, that storyline is going to continue. We're going

518
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: to continue talking about it. In episode two, we'll break

519
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: it down even further. Uh, there's some some great conversation

520
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: had I do want to mention Um Ashley, our buddy

521
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: who came on the podcast, Jacob. I sat down this

522
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: week and I was watching this episode. I was like,

523
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Jacobs had his go at paradise. Somehow, this dude still around.

524
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: He's still around. He's never had like a very serious relationship,

525
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and I just wonder now watching this week, if he

526
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: wishes Jill was still there because up to this point,

527
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: and again I could be biased because I do like Jill,

528
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: uh and I think she's hilarious and I think she's

529
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: funny and I think they had a great first date.

530
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: I I just wonder, from my perspective, I believe that

531
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: the most serious relationship he's had to day is with Jill.

532
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: This season. Yeah, he's still there, and I wonder if

533
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: he just wishes she was still around. Probably probably again,

534
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. He kind of mentioned it,

535
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: he did. That's what I was gonna saying. He kind

536
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: of mentioned it during our podcast that he was still

537
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: very interested in Jill, still very excited about Jill. So

538
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: why can't Jill show back up to the beach. That's

539
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: what I'm wondering. Oh, Jill could come back up to

540
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: the beach, But I don't think it's gonna happen. I

541
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: do think that he kind of like spoiled things for us.

542
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big spoiler though, that Jacob

543
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: leaves not committed to anyone on but that he's still

544
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: interested currently in getting to know Jill better. Yeah. So

545
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: um yeah, So I would say that gives you the answer.

546
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: He's probably thinking about her and missing her a little

547
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: bit this week. But he does make out with Should again,

548
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: and they made out earlier like week like day one

549
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, he like he's a good kisser. Obviously,

550
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: people are seem to be liking kissing him. Uh. He

551
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: maybe some time away has made him wake up in

552
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 1: the mornings and think of Jill and go to bed

553
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: at night. Maybe that's changed. Beautiful, It is beautiful. All right.

554
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk about one more couple before we get into headlines.

555
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: And I am eager to get into headlines this week

556
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: because I think it might be the most headliney bachelor

557
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: week of all time. You know, how many engagements and

558
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: weddings we had is quite unbelievable. Um. But yeah, let's

559
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: talk about Johnny and Victoria and they're cleansing date that

560
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: they went on. Johnny says that he's worried about them

561
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: not going the distance because he's so reserved with his

562
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: failings and and that's like sad, but he's working on it.

563
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I was. I would add to this actually that I

564
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: was pleasantly surprised because I've never met Johnny. We didn't

565
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: get to see a ton of Johnny during his season.

566
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: Was how supportive? Not that they weren't supportive of Alex.

567
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: They don't know Alex again. Alex is kind of that

568
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: newcomer that comes in that nobody really knows much about Actually,

569
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way that the cast treated Alex.

570
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: They made it seem like he was all looks and

571
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: no substance, and he seems very substantive. Just because they

572
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: know Johnny better doesn't mean that you guys can just

573
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: say that Johnny has a bigger heart than Alex. But

574
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I get you're defending your friend, but still I didn't

575
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: like it. No, I think Alex kind of got the

576
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: raw end of the deal here where he came in.

577
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: People were judgmental, they're critical, But I will say I

578
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: was surprised and also very excited for Victorian Johnny on

579
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: how supportive the cast was of Johnny. They really liked him.

580
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: They spoke very highly of him. UH. And I think

581
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: that's just a good tell and a good sign when

582
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: women and men on the beach are going he has

583
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: a big heart, he's a nice guy, he cares a

584
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: lot about her. There's obviously a lot of depth to

585
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: who he is and his relationships on the beach, and

586
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: so I do think that's a good sign. To close

587
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: out though this episode, we do need to mention what

588
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: relationships are currently still existing on the beach going into

589
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: UH Episode two. UH Serena Brandon are still together. Still

590
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: not seeing much of them, not at all. They're kind

591
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: of that couple that we love to watch and we

592
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: never get to watch them. Danielle and Michael are still together.

593
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: We don't see a ton of them anymore either. No. Uh,

594
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: Eliza is in their love triangle with Rodney and Justin.

595
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: Genevieve and Aaron are still together. Just Sina and Andrew

596
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: are still together. Another couple we haven't got to see

597
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: as much of as I would like to see because

598
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't really know what where they stand. Brittany and

599
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: Tyler are together, Kate and Logan are together, Shane and Jacob,

600
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: Victoria and Johnny. That are the Those are the couples

601
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: that are existing going into episode two. Um. And then

602
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Florence gives a rose to Alex. I don't even know

603
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: if i'd call it a couple. Uh. And then Adam

604
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: obviously is no longer with us going into episode two.

605
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: He's gone. He didn't last too long. So the storyline

606
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: in episode two is what couples are going to continue,

607
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: what couples are going to continue to exist? And also

608
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: are we going to get a fourth row ceremony? In

609
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: episode two because three rows ceremonies after I don't know,

610
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: twenty hours of television so far, twenty five hours of

611
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: television is exhausting, Um, at least to me. Yeah, it's

612
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: pretty crazy how little rows ceremonies we've had. This is

613
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: the first time that the girls at two weeks in

614
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: a row, though, girls out roses two weeks in a

615
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: row because of the amount of the difference amount. Yeah, yeah,

616
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna switch it up though obviously this next week

617
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: then they'll be less girls than guys, so the guys

618
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: will have the roses and then next week has got

619
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: to go into like Fantasy Suite week, right, Yeah, yeah,

620
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. We have a couple more

621
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: weeks left. I think of this show. What's the end

622
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: date February. I don't know. It's gonna be crazy, but

623
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: we got a lot of bad filming right now. That

624
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: would be so great. I would love if they did

625
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: Big Brother style where it was just a live feed

626
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: forever and ever. I think it'd be great. I think

627
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: it would be very very dirty, um, and I think

628
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: that this show very very much edits out a lot

629
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: of this stuff that, uh, those young viewers should not

630
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: be watching. We have bachelor headlines though. Actually there's a

631
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: lot of them, as you mentioned, a lot of good ones,

632
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: a lot of love stories, a lot of addings. So

633
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: let's take a break. When come back, we're gonna break

634
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: down all this stuff happening in Bachelor Nation. Sweet, let's

635
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: do it. The headline reads this inside Madison Pruitt's wedding

636
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Speaker 1: to Grant Trout. See the bachel Nation stars who attended this.

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00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: According to US Weekly, well, in this article, I am

638
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: not mentioned, which is fine with me. It means I'm

639
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: either not a star or I'm not a part of

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00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. So US Weekly, UM, let me know how

641
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: you're categorizing me now. Um, but either way, I was

642
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: happy to be there, my wife and I where they're

643
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: celebrating the two of them. Jessica met uh Madison on

644
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: a retreat earlier this year. They became fast friends, like

645
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: many said they would. Um. They have a lot of

646
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: common interests and they look very similar in a lot

647
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: of ways. Um, but it was an incredible wedding. Ashley,

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00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: break it down, then I'll add it. No, I don't

649
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: want to break it down. I'll read off the names

650
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: that were there. We got Natasha Parker, Sydney Warner High Tower,

651
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Victoria Fuller, Kelly Flanagan, Jasmine, Hannah Ann they were all

652
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: there from Peter's season, and then Raven and Adam were

653
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: also there. Dallas, Dallas, people who have gotten close to Maddie.

654
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: But then yeah, you're not here. Um, who else are

655
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: they missing from this list? I think that was it.

656
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm looking at for us now, I think that was who.

657
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh McKenna mckinna was there. Yea, she was Peter season two. Okay,

658
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: so um there's also the next headline. It's kind of

659
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: a funny joke. Peter Webber playfully teases Kelly Flanagan after

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00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: she attends Madison brew It's wedding so low, which makes

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. She didn't get a plus one. Uh.

662
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: Kelly wrote on Instagram, one of the most people weddings

663
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: for the most beautiful bride. Um, it's you know, with

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: the hashtag that they had, it's about trout time, which

665
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: is Maddie's letting your last name. And then underneath the picture,

666
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Peter said where's Peter and then Kelly wrote back Peter Christian,

667
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: which is referencing his first and middle name, and then

668
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: he said I'm in trouble. And then she said, you

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00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: know when that middle name gets pulled out, get to bed, Peter.

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00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, could you imagine if Peter went to I mean,

671
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: obviously you know that's so funny though it is funny,

672
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: but no, he's not there. He should not be there.

673
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: He should not. I mean this, he needs, you know that,

674
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: he needs to give the space. There's obviously like a

675
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: history there. It would be I mean, maybe they could

676
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: get passed in and it would be fine. But he

677
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: wasn't there. No, I will say, so wait, let's talk.

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00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: He was like a mind boggled. How many weddings there

679
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: have been from like Peter c in this far? I

680
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: guess it's like Maddie and then Sydney High Tower and

681
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: those things. Only two. But I just think, like I

682
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: feel like Peter Season was yesterday, and like these girls

683
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: have met their future husbands, dated them and then planned

684
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: weddings all in that amount of time. It's been almost

685
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: three years since Peterson. It has been three years since

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00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: Peter season taped. What season was astrad on? She was

687
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: on nixt season. Okay, so that's farther back. Yeah, that's

688
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: farther back. It was an insane wedding. It was so beautiful.

689
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: She planned it in such a short amount of time,

690
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: like three months. Right. Yeah. It was in Dallas at

691
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: the Trout Household, which is unbelievable. They had white roses everywhere.

692
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean there was roses everywhere. Um. Obviously Maddie looked beautiful.

693
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: I got to meet Grant for the first time. And

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00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: then also I would add that just getting to be

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00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: in sit with the girls from Peter's season, um was

696
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: very special. Um, it was. It was a very nice Uh.

697
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: It was just a nice way to meet them. They're

698
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: very kind. I would say the coolest part of the

699
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: wedding not only was the ceremony and those two getting married,

700
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: because I know how excited so many are for them,

701
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: and how supportive the crowd was of them, and the

702
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: things said about the two of them as a couple

703
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: and who they are to each other. I think their

704
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: love story for those who think it was rushed or quick,

705
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense if you kind of

706
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: heard the words of support coming behind them. But they

707
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: had um Camus wine and Prisoner wine as the wedding wine,

708
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: and those are my two favorite wines, and so I

709
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: really had a good time. I really enjoyed it. Um,

710
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: but it was it was a very special evening and

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00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: it and Jessica and I felt very honored to be

712
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: there alongside so many of these other people. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a great it was a great ceremony. Uh

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00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: oh they had the jordan Con band. Yeah, that's who

715
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: we had. Yeah, and that's how that's who we had.

716
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: So oh my gosh. Yeah yeah. So we had Taylor

717
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: Pace Orchestra, which is a part of the jordan Con group,

718
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: but this was jordan Con who you had. So it

719
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: was but they're all under the same kind of umbrella. Um.

720
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: So that band is incredible. They always have the party going.

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00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just it's if you're looking for like

722
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: an insanely good wedding band, they are the best I've

723
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: ever seen. So we danced, we ate, we drank, we celebrated.

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: What did you eat they gave? It was like chicken

725
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: uh and steak, your typical like kind of wedding food,

726
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: but it was insanely good um with like aside salad.

727
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: I think everybody got the same dish um pretty much.

728
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: But it was like in really good wedding food. Like

729
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm typically not a fan of wedding food. The cocktail

730
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: hour was it was out kind of I don't want

731
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, I don't want to share

732
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: too much about the house because I don't know how

733
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: much they would feel comfortable with. But this house is

734
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: is very nice and uh. The cocktail hour was out

735
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: by their pool. Uh and they're kind of garden area

736
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: uh and um, and so they had bars set up

737
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: around that and it was, I mean, it's just like

738
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: the most magical backyard. I think anybody that walked into

739
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: that backyard, no matter who you were, where you're from,

740
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: or what you've seen, we all just went holy how

741
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: like I mean, And they had to decorative for the

742
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: wedding and so they had beautiful like flower arrangements everywhere. Lighting. Uh.

743
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: It was it was just like the most spectacular event.

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00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: It reminded me of what it would feel like if

745
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I ever got invited to one of those fancy Hollywood

746
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: parties that people pay millions of dollars to put on.

747
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: The cold kind of feel like that because it was

748
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: like black tie and then very fancy dresses and so

749
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: everybody look was looking good, feeling good, celebrating. Well. It

750
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: was special. Did they do anything like unique and quirky,

751
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: and we saw her her veil, so that was unique.

752
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: It said worth the weight, So anything else that was

753
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: like very specific to them. Uh, I mean it was

754
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: a very uh faith based focus ceremony. I think that's

755
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: who the two of them are. They're very faith focused

756
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: and so a lot of their ceremony, a lot of

757
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: their prayers, a lot of their speeches kind of we're

758
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: focused around who they are for each other, but then

759
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: who are they in relationship to God? And how do

760
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: they what do they want to do with their relationship,

761
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: Like how do they want to serve well and love

762
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: well and be well in this world? And so that

763
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: was that was unique to them, and I think that

764
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: was kind of the It felt like the tone of

765
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: the whole evening was, you know, we're here not only

766
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: because we love each other, but because we love God.

767
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: And that was kind of how the focus of the

768
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: whole night went. Is how the ceremony went, It's how

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00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: the speeches were given. Before they danced. Um, they did

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00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: do one thing that I thought was interesting and cool.

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00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: They had both after the son mother dance Mother's son dance.

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00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: They did both sets of parents they danced with in

773
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: front of everybody. So they broke bought. They brought grants

774
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: parents out, Maddie's parents out, and the three of them

775
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: danced on the floor together, and I thought that was

776
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: very special. Um. Luckily, Uh Sam Ellinger was supposed to

777
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: be in the wedding, the starting quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts.

778
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: He made his first start yesterday for the Colts and

779
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: a disappointing loss. He didn't play bad, the Colts play bad.

780
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: He didn't make the wedding because he was starting the

781
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: next day UH in Indianapolis, so that that didn't happen.

782
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: I was excited didn't get to meet him. I know

783
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna, you know, I was gonna touch his

784
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: hand and give him some luck, but that didn't work out.

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00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: I would I would say it was one of there's

786
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: like some spectacular, lead beautiful weddings that I've been to.

787
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: Yours would be included in that, and there's are like

788
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: there's are definitely gonna be included. Their wedding was. It

789
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: was amazing. They also wore Jordan's Nike Jordan's Word after

790
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: the ceremony, which is pretty classic. Maddie very cute with

791
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: her their sportswear and then you know in basketball tie ins,

792
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: and then I'm curious to know how many people were there.

793
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: It looks like it could have been like upwards of

794
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: three d oh more than that, Jessica and I estimate,

795
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how many were there, but I bet

796
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: it was close to four fifty. How do you do

797
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: that in three months? I mean, now it makes more

798
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: sense knowing that it was at their house, so the

799
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: venue was easy. Yeah, it was very impressive. I don't know.

800
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Jessica asked the same thing. She's like, how in the

801
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: world that she pulled this off and in three months?

802
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Because they did, and they pulled it off really well.

803
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: You can see a lot of the pictures. Uh, Madison

804
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: and Grant have both posted a lot of these pictures,

805
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: kind of the drone shots of the whole group. And

806
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: they had an incredible videographer there that put the video

807
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: out that evening, which seems to be a new thing

808
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: in weddings where you get a videographer that has the

809
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: video done by the time the ceremonies done, so every

810
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: he gets to watch it. Yeah, we did that, but

811
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: they you can see a lot of the content created

812
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: from that on their two socials. I will say, my

813
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: wife looked really good. She always looks beauty, she does

814
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: in Madison. I mean, she just always looks stunning as well,

815
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: so she just looked amazing. She had what one dress

816
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: change or one dress change? I don't know, I don't know.

817
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. You could ask, you could ask jests.

818
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure she would know. Um. But okay, well let's

819
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: let's move on. There's two. There was another bachelor wedding

820
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: this weekend that was Kevin and Astrid. They got married

821
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: in Florida, and it looked like the only bachelor alone

822
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: that was there was Blake. Rachel was there. Oh, Rachel

823
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: was there too. Ye, Blake and Rachel. We don't have

824
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: a list of all the names, but I saw on

825
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: social media. I think there was more than just Rachel

826
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: and Blake. It felt like there was probably um for

827
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: were five of them that were there. I'm going to

828
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: see if I could get like the whole list by

829
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: looking at this social picture because I just saw it

830
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: a few a few moments before we jumped on. But

831
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: they did have a good support. I don't know anything,

832
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: but I know that Kevin hasn't wearing a wedding band

833
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: for a while. So I wonder if they were legally

834
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: married for a while going into the ceremony. Yeah, and

835
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: that's another kind of trend these days, right where, oh yeah,

836
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: we have another legal marriage. Yeah, Joe and Serena this week. Seriously,

837
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: three bachelor couples got married this week. Well, I guess

838
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: Maddie's have a bachelor couple. But how crazy. Um, Joe

839
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: and Serena they got legally married and they'll be having

840
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: their ceremony next September. Yeah. So I will say from

841
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: the pictures, I wasn't there to speak as much on it,

842
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: but Kevin and Astrid's wedding looked awesome. She looks beautiful. Uh,

843
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: she always looks really, just like stunningly beautiful. There obviously parents,

844
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: and they had this amazing ceremony, a lot of support

845
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: around them. But then, yes, I got to hear a

846
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: little bit about Serene and Joe's um marriage at the courthouse.

847
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Speaker 1: They're gonna still have a celebration. There's a rumor that

848
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Natasha was actually their witness, um when you got married. Yeah,

849
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: there's a rumor going around right now that I heard

850
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: that Natasha was their one legal witness. So it's just

851
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: the three of them in a room. They got married.

852
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: Very exciting for them, but they are still gonna have

853
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: a celebration. This was kind of there and I don't

854
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: know they're their full reasoning behind doing this and not

855
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: just waiting to the wedding, but they are married, and

856
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: so how cool is this? We're now talking about not breakups,

857
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: are talking about marriages. Yeah, it may have had to

858
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: do with the fact she was Canadian, you know, that

859
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: could be too, Yeah, who knows, But still it doesn't

860
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: really matter. They're going to get married either way. Yeah,

861
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: well they are married, and so we celebrate Kevin and Astrid,

862
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Joe and Serena, also Madison and Grant. We celebrate them all. Congratulations.

863
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: We also have to celebrate Kalen and Dean. Kalen Dean

864
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: got engaged this week and of course in a very

865
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Dean fashion. So to tell us all the juicy details,

866
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: we have our producer Hannah on our podcast, who also

867
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: produces Jared and Dean's podcast. Hannah, do you mind jumping

868
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: on here and tell us all the juicy details that

869
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: you learned during the podcast. Of of course, what do

870
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: you want to know? Okay, Hannah, I got to know

871
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 1: was the ring truly lost or is that a story?

872
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: Because you guys, if you didn't know already, headlines are

873
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: made last week in which Dean says that he crumpled

874
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: up the ring in a piece of napkin and put

875
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: it in his drunk drawer in the kitchen. So I

876
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: was hoping that this was to throw kalin off. Is

877
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: this true or is this a big fib to make

878
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: her surprised? No, this is true. This is God. The

879
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: ring is still lost and he proposed with a placement

880
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: ring until he finds the original one four point five

881
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: carrot ring. By the way, gone gone. I cannot get

882
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: over this, Okay. So then you know they've been talking

883
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: about engagement. Heck, I think all of us out there

884
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: kind of maybe thought that they had some secret commitment

885
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: ceremony done in Europe years ago, that they were already engaged.

886
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: There's just been so much like engaged in marriage talk

887
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: around them, and that's how committed they've always felt. But

888
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: it so I feel like Kayla knew this was coming.

889
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: It was a matter of time of formality really to

890
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: get him down on one knee. They go to Hawaii.

891
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: They take a long hike, the hardest hikes documented in

892
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: the US. This is not like, my business partner just

893
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: took this hike last year and he said it was

894
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: the hardest hike he's ever done, and he's hiked the

895
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon from Rim to Rim to Rim, so like,

896
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: this is a really hard, difficult, grueling hike. It's twenty

897
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: two miles up and down these hills. Dean is a

898
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: crazy person. He's a crazy person, and Kalin is a saint. Wow. Okay,

899
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: So they get to the end of this hike, right,

900
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: and he had done this cute little thing where he

901
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: pretended like he was going to take some glam shot

902
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: of her from far away, and he set up the

903
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: camera and then it was all ready for him to

904
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: get down on one knee. So Hannah explained, Yeah, so

905
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: he hid a camera in the bushes and they were

906
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: going to do just a picture of them too, where

907
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: their backs were turned to each other and just like

908
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: turn around. It was this whole setup that Dean had,

909
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: and then they did at one time, and then he

910
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: was like, okay, let's do it again. And then the

911
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: second time him he did it, he was down on

912
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: one knee and he's so cute. And then after that

913
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: they had to do the whole hike back, and he

914
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: said after he proposed, he was like, I don't know

915
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: if it's the new fiance glow in her, but she

916
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: was a champ on the way back. But you know,

917
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: the difficulty of this too is there's some alleges where

918
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: you looking, yeah, walking on the side of a cliff

919
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: where it's about My buddy was telling me it's about

920
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: is wide enough to get your backpack through it without

921
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: like falling off the side of the cliff. This is

922
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: this is a hike that people have passed away on

923
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. This is not a like, let's go

924
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: in our backyard and take a nice little trail. This

925
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: is a hard hike that he asked Calin to go

926
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: on with him. Yeah, brutal. Well, the interesting thing is

927
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: is that now Calin has to propose to Dean. She

928
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: was he was convinced that she was going to be

929
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: the first one to do it, but she said her

930
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: proposal will come by the end of the year, so

931
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: she has two months, so we have something to look

932
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: forward to. There you go, she has too much Well,

933
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: you know what, he better find that ring before she

934
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: proposes to him. I just can't believe help. We had

935
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: insurance on the ring. I don't know if that would help.

936
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: You tell me Dean Ungler has insurance on anything in

937
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: his life? Okay? Legitimately, Ben, I had this conversation on

938
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: my I don't get a podcast because the girls were like, well,

939
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: he definitely got insurance on the ring, so hopefully he'll

940
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: be able to like figure it out. And I'm like, you, guys,

941
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: he crumpled up a ring into paper towel and put

942
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: it into a junctory. You think he got insurance on it?

943
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: Has health insurance? Like shocked? Shocked? If Dean has coverage

944
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: on one of the things that he owns, I just

945
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: would be I think he likes I think Dean is

946
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: the type of person, yeah that finds insurance to be

947
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: a burden. Uh, And that's that's his way. So yes,

948
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm hoping he did too. That is

949
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: not a cheap ring. But all else being said, congratulations

950
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: to two of them. Yes, Dean is Dean, and we

951
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: love Dean for who Dean is. He's a crazy person.

952
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: But Kalen loves Dean for Dean, and that is an

953
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: incredible relationship to watch and to see them shining together

954
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: and so the two of them are now engaged for

955
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: the first time. And look at that next headline about

956
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: what their last names are going to be. It's gonna

957
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: be Bell, right, is that what we're seeing? Yeah, this

958
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: is really cool. So they're actually both going to drop

959
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: their last names. I'm assuming that would be Miller Keys

960
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: for her and then Ulred for him, and they're going

961
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: to change their name to Bell, which is Dean's mom's

962
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: maiden name. That is so sweet, It's very beautiful. So

963
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: their love story continues. I love watching their love story.

964
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: There's another engagement in Batchel Nation, but this is the

965
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: second one. Becca Koufrin and Thomas Jacobs. Uh. They have

966
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: dueling proposals. So this time Thomas did propose to Becca.

967
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: H I knew this was like a thing where you know, uh, women,

968
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: we're now doing the proposal as well. Is it Is

969
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: it like a thing where you just you get engaged

970
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: once or if the woman does it, are you gonna

971
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: have to do it a second time? Like, actually, you've

972
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: got to explain this trend to me. But also I

973
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: want to say congratulates to two of them. We've already

974
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: said it before. We're very excited for them. Um, they're

975
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: both awesome, and they're awesome together. And I love Becca.

976
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend so much time with her. I'm so

977
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: excited for her. I just need, uh, my old school

978
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: traditional mind that I have to continue to scrape out

979
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: and work through and try to make sense of everything.

980
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: Teach me Ashley for your mine. But you know I'm

981
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm old school and traditional too. Not to impugne this

982
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: trend of the woman proposing. My best friend proposed to

983
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: her her husband now, but I do think often times

984
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: when the woman does propose, the guy usually comes back

985
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: and does it his own way as well. So that's

986
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: what Thomas did. He carved the word to marry me

987
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: into a pumpkin before getting down on one knee. And

988
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: now it's time for them officially to start the wedding plans.

989
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: It seems yeah, I mean it's cool, And again I

990
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: think it's you know who said it was right or

991
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: wrong to do it in any different way. I'm not

992
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: saying that. I just didn't know then it there was

993
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: like a second proposal. Um, what happens if the second

994
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: time the person goes no. I thought about it for

995
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: the past five months, and Becca and Thomas. This case,

996
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: they were separated by five months. Yeah, it's like, yeah,

997
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Doesn't mean you're broken up, but

998
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're still engaged because the first thing spile exists.

999
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. It's crazy, Ashley. We're gonna come

1000
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: back right here tomorrow to break down the second episode

1001
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: that we watched this week of Paradise Um for four

1002
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: hours of television. Um yeah, I don't know. My my

1003
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: eyeballs feel burned, um into my into my body because

1004
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm so much TV. Anyway, Hey, we'll be back tomorrow.

1005
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: Can't wait to uh to talk to you all of then.

1006
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,400
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