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Speaker 1: Right now, brought to you by Ford Built for Texas,

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Speaker 1: Built for You. Dallas Cowboys Executive vice president Stephen Jones,

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, sir, Good afternoon, guys. How you doing. We're

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Speaker 1: doing okay, We're doing okay. Obviously the news never stops

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Speaker 1: happening with the Cowboys. Well, we're all in the know

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Speaker 1: or already anticipating that at some point there could or

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Speaker 1: would be a suspension for Lyle Collins. Yes, we were

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Speaker 1: aware that there was something and that it was in

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Speaker 1: the works, and of course didn't know the magnitude or

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Speaker 1: the details, but certainly we're in the loop. Is is

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Speaker 1: it weird to you, Stephen that he has been tested

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty times in eighteen months. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just we're not going to be able to comment

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Speaker 1: that type of thing. I just certainly were aware of everything,

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Speaker 1: and we're Lyle and his representations doing what they're doing

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Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, any type of work they

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Speaker 1: appeal anything or anything along those lines. So h certainly,

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Speaker 1: h you know, we're aware of it, understand it, and

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Speaker 1: we'll have to prepare such And I understand not getting

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Speaker 1: into specifics for sure, I'm curious if you can tell

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Speaker 1: us general your team policy or is the team allowed

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Speaker 1: to punish players individually for missing tests or is that

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Speaker 1: something that is outside of what the NFL does? Is

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Speaker 1: that not allowed by the NFL or is there something

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Speaker 1: that y'all have in place to punish players from missing tests?

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Speaker 1: You know, the league strictly handles that. Certainly, you can

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Speaker 1: address suspensions and things like that in a player's contract,

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Speaker 1: but as far as league testing and those type of

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Speaker 1: lack of cooperation or what they deemed lack of cooperation

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Speaker 1: or failed test strictly lies within the governance of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So what we get is just reading, you know, media stuff.

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Speaker 1: I know we're in the media, but a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: we're not even aware of, you know, what's going on.

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Speaker 1: If he's missing tests or not missing tests, that's between

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Speaker 1: the player in the league. Okay, So when it after

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Speaker 1: this has happened Friday afternoon is when you know, the

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Speaker 1: public got the news and we got the news. Does

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Speaker 1: Lyell call up and say I can't believe Like, how

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Speaker 1: does that go to? Is he like, I can't believe this.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that this was going to be a

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Speaker 1: suspension for missing a few tests or how did I said? Guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to get into any

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Speaker 1: sensitive issues and we can't get into any of the

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Speaker 1: details of this other than you know, we receiving notice

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Speaker 1: that he was going to be suspended for five games.

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Speaker 1: We were aware that there was a certainly certainly some

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Speaker 1: work in progress as it was coming around here this fall.

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Speaker 1: But really that's all we can say about I don't

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Speaker 1: think this one goes into this situation. But when does

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins get to practice again with the team to

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Speaker 1: get prepared to come back for the season. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: once everything's finalized, we'll be able to say say more.

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Speaker 1: But usually the rules are they get to come and

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Speaker 1: work with the team halfway through the suspension. Now, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: something you like to throw whatever stuff like that pops up,

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Speaker 1: or how do you handle it personally? I think I

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Speaker 1: said it before. I mean the biggest thing you'll worry

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Speaker 1: about it with our job, it's just what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: wake up to on Monday morning, Tuesday morning, etc. Whether

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Speaker 1: Whether it's an injury, whether it's testing, whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: to work. Is the obviously inquiring Cowboys fans want to

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Speaker 1: certainly our coaches are doing that. We've certainly been pleased

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Speaker 1: we feel really good about our options. Stephen Jones joined

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Speaker 1: us here on the KNCY Masterpiece on one oh five three.

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Speaker 1: The fan as he does every single Monday. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: out Thursday night during the game that having said Rick

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Speaker 1: this is we do have so much depth at the

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you go through all these mascinations

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Speaker 1: just the injury nature of our game. It's just look

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Speaker 1: great week of practice, get prepared and going to Sofi

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Speaker 1: It looked like they were having some fun there in LA.

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Speaker 1: I just saw this that Kellen Moore called twenty eight

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Speaker 1: We will catch you again next Monday. Sounds great, guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,