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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 1: to walk the planet. Okay, sure, here's a deal.

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Speaker 2: He's a true icon in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet.

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Speaker 1: There's got a bead with a voice that sounds like

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Speaker 1: very white.

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Speaker 2: And be got to say, hey, let do it, baby.

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Speaker 1: You God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for

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Speaker 1: a cameo. Fact of the matter is, you are about

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Speaker 1: to embark on a transcendent experience that can only be

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Speaker 1: described as psychological nudity.

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Speaker 3: This is stu Gox and this is stupidity. Here we

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Speaker 3: go jump in.

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Speaker 2: Holy God bless March, Mike yea God bless March, and

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Speaker 2: a little bit of April step. It's a great point

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Speaker 2: because April gets left out of the equation, just a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a poor April. What April have or

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Speaker 2: did anyone?

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Speaker 3: Because you are the biggest games, aren't there?

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Speaker 2: Right? It's most of March, and the biggest games are

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Speaker 2: played in April, and yet we only call it March badness.

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Speaker 2: So God bless March in a little bit of April,

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Now here's the funny thing. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get you ready for the NCAA Tournament with our annual

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Speaker 2: a tradition. Unlike any other, our annual interview with Jay

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Speaker 2: billis where he explains to us how he fakes it

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Speaker 2: through some of these teams. Okay, and he's already it

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Speaker 2: is amazing. It is laugh out loud funny. Mikey's gonna

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Speaker 2: ask him, like the three key things you have to

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Speaker 2: go to to sell everyone that you know who kind

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Speaker 2: of saw state it is and what they're all about. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Like it's the team mascot, it's this, it's the conference.

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Speaker 2: You have to know their record, of course, and then

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Speaker 2: from there it's just a bunch of phrases. Stretch the floor. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, senior guard, play, veteran coach or one of

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Speaker 2: the best.

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Speaker 3: Young defense RAFFI.

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Speaker 2: Really really get after but really get after another defensive end.

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Speaker 2: But once you establish those things, you could say anything.

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Speaker 2: I give it. Hey, I spent some time with the

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Speaker 2: guys from Kennesaw State back in February. Even though I

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Speaker 2: didn't you could say what. It gives you a license

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Speaker 2: to say whatever the hell you want. And so we

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Speaker 2: do this every year with Jay. We'll ask him some

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Speaker 2: serious questions because we care about March. We're also going

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Speaker 2: to have the Vermont head coach on another tradition, unlike

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Speaker 2: any other where. I ask him to attend the Dead

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Speaker 2: Show with me. He's a big deadhead up there in Burlington, Vermont.

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Speaker 2: But here's the problem. I can't even focus on March

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Speaker 2: because Aaron Rodgers has Mike so distracted. I come on here.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I want to talk to Jay Billis. I

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Speaker 2: love Jay Billis. He's become a friend. I see him

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Speaker 2: at lake Time every year, and I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about uh, March madness a college troop and mikey a

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Speaker 2: is furious without Rogers right now because this man has

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Speaker 2: taking over every one's life. What is like, what's the

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Speaker 2: problem he's coming to the Jets, Well.

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Speaker 3: We don't know that.

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Speaker 4: And two like, it's it's not him, it's not even

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Speaker 4: like his one friend, it's his it's his camp buddies.

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Speaker 3: Now that we're having to invit, like I get Alan Lazard.

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Speaker 4: Like okay, I get that, Oh you want Randall kyb

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Speaker 4: because he's like your best friend's your will be. But

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Speaker 4: we're we're down to Mercedes Lewis, like we're down to

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Speaker 4: like the third tight end on a team of third

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Speaker 2: Mike, he wants to bring his friends along for the ride.

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Speaker 2: He wants to be comfortable in New York. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You have to realize the organization that he's going to

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Speaker 2: and you do because you've been a fan of this

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Speaker 2: mess for as long as I have. It's the Jets

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Speaker 2: most teams, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have this much leverage over

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Speaker 2: this team though. He has all the leverage and he

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Speaker 2: knows it. And I'm good with that. Mike, this quarterback,

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Speaker 2: this kind of player, this caliber player, never chooses the

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Speaker 2: New New York Jets. Aaron is choosing us. He's choosing

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Speaker 2: this organization, this lousy organization. I have been a fan

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Speaker 2: of this team for forty years. They've had thirty five quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And you know what they say, Mike, when you've had

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Speaker 2: thirty five quarterbacks, you've never had one. I mean, let him.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if he takes Dorsey Levins out of

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Speaker 2: asking for Odell Beckham. That's a good thing for us.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna force the Jets to go out and get

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Speaker 2: Odell Beckham junior. How can you have a problem with it?

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Speaker 3: How are they gonna play ten wide receivers at a time?

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Speaker 3: You're okay with Mercedes Lewis.

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Speaker 2: That's where I draw the line. I mean he's got

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Speaker 3: Mercedes Lewis is like seventy three years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take them. It doesn't matter, Mike. I want

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Speaker 2: to reiterate to you, one of the all time great quarterbacks, Okay,

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Speaker 2: is a free agency. He's perhaps the greatest thrower of

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Speaker 2: the football we've ever seen, behind Tom Brady. He is

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Speaker 2: a free agent. This is unlike Brett Farv. Farv wanted

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Speaker 2: to go to the Vikings all along. The Packers refused

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Speaker 2: where he was an interception away from making it to

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with the Vikings. Okay, Aaron is choosing us, Mike.

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Speaker 2: He went on a darkness retreat and the light he

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Speaker 2: saw at the end of the darkness was fireman ed.

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Speaker 2: I think, what do you want from up them?

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Speaker 4: He's choosing us, like you choose to go to jail.

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Speaker 4: You have two options. Yeah, he has retired and go

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Speaker 4: to dead shows with you, or he has go to

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Speaker 4: the Jets, and frankly, he's not sure which one it is.

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Speaker 2: You get your love. I mean that in an acid convention.

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Speaker 2: I mean that he's my quarterback. We've been waiting for

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Speaker 2: this caliber of quarterback to be our quarterback our retire lives,

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Speaker 2: and now you're gonna get upset because he wants a

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Speaker 2: couple of friends to come along, even if it's a

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Speaker 2: seventy two year seventy two year old tight end name

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Speaker 2: Mercedes Lewis. Who cares? I think Mercedes Lewis signed somewhere today,

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Speaker 2: didn't he? I don't think Sothy I thought he did.

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Speaker 2: I thought I read it somewhere. But if he brings

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Speaker 2: Odell Beckham, Lazaarn and Randall Cobb, I'm good. Who cares

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Speaker 2: Randall Cobb? Something about I'm telling you where this all

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Speaker 2: started to go downhill for the Green Bay Packers was

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Speaker 2: with Randall Cobb. That's where they crossed the line. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, maybe he forces the Raiders hand and

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Speaker 2: then they go get Devonte Adams. I mean, who the

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Speaker 2: hell knows this guy's got all the power? I mean,

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Speaker 2: he does can you imagine we'll get that hand. More importantly,

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Speaker 2: we have one of the great sporting events of the

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Speaker 2: year on the sports calendar coming up. And like, you're

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Speaker 2: I'm excited, You're not. You're just you're worried about. I

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Speaker 2: off the ledge to tell you that Aaron's coming here,

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Speaker 2: and you were like, how do you know? And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I just know. Don't ask how I know. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to reveal my sources. I just know he's coming here.

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you what's holding this whole thing up

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Speaker 2: is he was He wants that animal Bachtiari, and they

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Speaker 2: can't find him because he's roaming the earth somewhere doing lord.

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Speaker 3: Knows what shutting beers in the woods.

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Speaker 2: Aaron can't even get a hold of them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Bakhtiari hybrid eates during the off season. They have to

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Speaker 2: wait for him to come out of hybernation in.

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Speaker 3: A cave just outside Bucks games.

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Speaker 2: So we might be waiting for a while. We have

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Speaker 2: no choice. Let me ask you this. We are taping

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Speaker 2: this on Tuesday, Okay, tournament starts Thursday. Again. We will

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Speaker 2: have the Vermont head coach We have them on every year.

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Speaker 2: My dad graduated from Vermont, my brother went there, my

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Speaker 2: nephew went there, my entire family went there besides me. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we love having them on. I'll see if I

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Speaker 2: could talk them into attending a dead show with me

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Speaker 2: and we'll have fun with Jay Billis. But what is

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Speaker 2: it going to take me to convince you that Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers is coming here? And then let me ask you this,

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Speaker 2: This is important. We're taping this on Tuesday tomorrow at

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Speaker 2: around four o'clock. I believe it's either two or four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: They can make an offer to Lamar Jackson. If you

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Speaker 2: don't have an answer from Aaron Rodgers by tomorrow at

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Speaker 2: that time, what do you want the Jets to do?

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Speaker 4: Do I have to bring all of Lamar Jackson's friends

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Speaker 4: that way, I'll pivot.

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Speaker 2: But his friends are different. He's got one friend it's

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Speaker 2: good with Lamar Jackson bringing all his friends. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: chose an organization. He chose wisely. Here's a team that

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Speaker 2: is super Bowl ready where I'll have all the leverage

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Speaker 2: over them because they've been so lousy for so long.

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Speaker 2: That's what he did.

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Speaker 4: So I'll just replace all their super Bowl players, their

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Speaker 4: super Bowl ready players, with my friends.

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Speaker 2: Mike, we don't have super Bowl ready people. Our people

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Speaker 2: aren't super Bowl ready. He's the reason we're going to

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Speaker 2: be super Bowl ready. So let him bring in whoever

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Speaker 2: the hell he wants. I don't care he he wants

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Speaker 2: j Billis to play wide receiver. I'm good with that.

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Speaker 2: Bill's be a nice big target the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you might not be a speedster on the outside,

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Speaker 4: but I guarantee you he'll body someone up in the

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Speaker 2: Just throw it up to him. Guy's like six seven,

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Speaker 2: isn't he? Did you find that anything about Mercedes Lewis anything?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's still a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Oh he is. Yes, I had the dreams alive. Go

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Speaker 2: get him. Why do you hate me? You're gonna be

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Speaker 2: so happy soon.

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Speaker 4: Mercedes Lewis drawing interests from Jets and Raiders, two just

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Speaker 4: awful organizations fighting over scraps.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Raiders just traded Darren Waller to the Giants, right.

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Speaker 3: But they'll replace him with Mercedes.

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Speaker 2: Listen, he's a hot commodity and Mike. If you had

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Speaker 2: a good friend who was so good at what it

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Speaker 2: is he does right, and he had all the power,

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Speaker 2: all the leverage, wouldn't you commend him for bringing his

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Speaker 2: their prime.

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Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for him to do it.

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Speaker 2: I totally box myself in. My father could not join us.

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Speaker 2: He graduated from UVM, but he did want me to

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Speaker 2: send And this is a weird, awkward place to start, okay,

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Speaker 2: but a message from my eighty one year old dad.

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Speaker 2: He loves that you can get to the dance he

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Speaker 2: does as a Vermont grad. He loves it, He loves you,

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Speaker 2: he loves the team and the program. He'd like to

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Speaker 2: dance a little once you get to the dance. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Coach, that's his message. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: tired of just getting to the dance. Let's get there

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Speaker 2: and actually dance. What's your response to my eighty two

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Speaker 2: year old dad. I'm with him. I'm with him.

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Speaker 5: Let's let this year be at the year.

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Speaker 6: Why will this year be the year?

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Speaker 7: That's a good question. I mean, I think you know

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Speaker 7: we've won fifteen in a row. Second longest winning streak

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Speaker 7: you know, in the country, and and obviously playing a really,

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Speaker 7: really good Marquette team, but you know, we've been close

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Speaker 7: to the last couple of times we made it, lost

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Speaker 7: by Florida Arkansas eight to Florida State, tend to Purdue,

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Speaker 7: So it's it's kind of like speed dating, you know,

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Speaker 5: So it's good for it.

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Speaker 6: He is good for it.

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Speaker 2: All right, my dad uh, and he will get it.

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Speaker 2: But but he needs you to dance a little bit. O.

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Speaker 2: Billy. The guys who own GUZMANI Gomez all the taco

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Speaker 5: Hey, you sent me that list you got you got

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Speaker 6: You want me to help you out?

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Speaker 2: I'm the only one of my family didn't go to

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Speaker 6: What is it about coaching, coach? Because you correct correct

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Speaker 6: Because I want to get back to it.

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Speaker 5: A Division III school did that for five years.

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Speaker 7: It was a part time job, and after five years,

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Speaker 7: And so, you know, I'm super fortunate that, uh I

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Speaker 7: Well, last year, last year we got we were in.

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Speaker 7: We've got brand new Jordan threes, green and black and

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Speaker 5: You're too old to wear those shoes, completely in front

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Speaker 5: I guess, but no, I think you should.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I thought it was funny. I love, I

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Speaker 6: Have you tried some grateful dead music on your kids

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Speaker 5: We usually a couple of my buddies here.

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Speaker 6: I am going to that if you would like to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're making they're doing the famous show from a

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Speaker 5: Yes, right, yeah, seventy seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Pre ordered tickets. We'll see if I can get them.

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Speaker 7: But but that's gonna be awesome. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Listen, I can get you tickets. You don't have to

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Speaker 5: Perfect, let's do it. Got my number.

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Speaker 2: You got to bring his check books to you guys, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you should have the pre ordering the head coach at UBM.

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Speaker 5: Come on, I'm just an average jail. I guess.

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Speaker 2: your team deserved a better faith in a fifteen seed.

440
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 6: I really do.

441
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: I think you're better than that, and I think that's

442
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: part of the problem as to why you don't get

443
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: to dance. Once you get to the dance. You know

444
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, they disrespect you.

445
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

446
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 7: You know, I trust those people, you know that the committee,

447
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 7: I guess. You know, we've been a thirteen seed the

448
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 7: last three times we've been in you know, I thought

449
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 7: we would get to a fourteen seed. We had a

450
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 7: top thirty non conference schedule. The problem with our non

451
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 7: conference issue, we played, you know, two home games and

452
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 7: every other game on the road, and we just if

453
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 7: we had gotten one or two of those games, I

454
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 7: think we you know, I was trying to get.

455
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 5: To a twelve seed.

456
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, we got off to a two and seven start

457
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 7: this year, and we're not able to capitalize on any

458
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 7: of those opportunities, you know, at Saint Mary's, at Fullerton,

459
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 7: at USC we almost had USC.

460
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 5: At Yale, at Iona.

461
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 7: You know, we just weren't able to capitalize on any

462
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 7: of those opportunities, So I think that probably came back

463
00:22:59,600 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 7: to her.

464
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: It's such a cool profession in that when you win,

465
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: it's just move on to the next one.

466
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 6: When you lose, they stick with you.

467
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 7: Forever, right, It's it's yeah, absolutely, that's that's the problem

468
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 7: with the gig.

469
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 5: It's just, uh, the wins you expect.

470
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 7: The losses, you know, you just you're right to carry

471
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 7: them with them with you for a while.

472
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 6: What's the one this year that was at USC, the

473
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 6: one that sticks with you the most.

474
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 7: There's a couple of USC cal State Fullerton who made it,

475
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 7: was in the tournament last year, made its state championship game.

476
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 7: This year, we had two free throws at the end

477
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 7: of the game to win it. We make one, missed

478
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 7: the second one go to double overtime, lose that one

479
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 7: in a heartbreaker when we were desperately.

480
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 5: Needing a win. You know. The IONA game was brutal.

481
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 7: We were out California for a week, flew cross country,

482
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 7: drove up to the Mohigan Sun and played a really

483
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 7: good IONA team who'd been off a week, and they

484
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 7: just they hammered us right from the jump.

485
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 5: So that that little run we lost IONA and.

486
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 7: Yale by twenty back to back after losing three in California.

487
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 7: So that was probably the low point there because not

488
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 7: that not that we shouldn't lose, you know that we

489
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 7: couldn't lose to those teams, but we weren't really as

490
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 7: competitive as we should have been.

491
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 5: So there's a lot. Don't get me. I don't want

492
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: to talk about the losses were I'm sorry.

493
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to break. I'm sorry to break about job Becker.

494
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: The head coach of the University of Vermont, Dick Vital

495
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: said this is the most wide open tournament he's ever

496
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: seen in all those years fifty years covering college basketball.

497
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: Do you agree, Yeah, yeah, I do.

498
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 7: I mean you just this year in general, I mean

499
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 7: that the top twenty five every week would just turn

500
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 7: over from top to bottom end season. Number one team

501
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 7: in the country to start the year doesn't make the tournament.

502
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 7: I mean, there's just you know, it's it's all about

503
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 7: and regard every year this tournament is about matchups and

504
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 7: but more than that, it's just Yeah, I think it's

505
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 7: wide open this year. It should be really exciting and

506
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 7: I can't wait to uh to jump on that plane

507
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 7: tomorrow and get out to Columbus and start, you know,

508
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 7: feeling the energy.

509
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: What can you tell us about Marquette in terms of

510
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: what concerns you the most about that team?

511
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 6: They're they're good coach.

512
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 5: They're really good.

513
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean just offensively, you know, figuring out how

514
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 7: to stop them. Tyler Kohlik, who's a New England kid

515
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 7: we recruited, you know, I recruited out of high school,

516
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 7: went to George Mason, then transferred to Marquette. Great kid,

517
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 7: great family. And you know, I've watched them because I've

518
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 7: followed I've followed his career and they're just really good.

519
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 7: And he's kind of the the head of the snake,

520
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 7: you just as a guy that uh makes the right

521
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 7: play every time down they spread you out, put you

522
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 7: in ball screens and he can kind of pick you apart.

523
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 5: And then they got a lot of guys that, uh,

524
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 5: you know can score.

525
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 7: And but the thing you know when you watch them

526
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 7: and you know, there's some similarities I think to to

527
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 7: our team and kind of what we run and how

528
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 7: we play. But but also like how connected of a

529
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 7: group they are. They're really you can tell are really connected,

530
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 7: like playing with each other, uh and you know, hold

531
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 7: each other to a high standard and accountable and and

532
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 7: things like that. So thirteen that just you know, you

533
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 7: got to beat them. They're not going to beat themselves again.

534
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: I really want to see you guys get a victory

535
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: here or two or six.

536
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 6: That'd be awesome.

537
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: Awesome.

538
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: Dad went there, brother went there, his son went there,

539
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: my nephew, my brother's wife went there. So it's a

540
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: family affair at the University of Vermont. What would you

541
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: tell them and me and your fans, Hey, we have

542
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: to do this. If these two or three things happen,

543
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: we will beat Marquette in the first round.

544
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 7: I think we have to make a lot of threes,

545
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 7: and we've got to we've got to rebound the ball.

546
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 7: I mean, if if we can force them in the misses,

547
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 7: we can't let them get another opportunity. So I think

548
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 7: those two things are going to be key. And you know,

549
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 7: I like where this group is at. You know, we've

550
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 7: come overcome a lot of adversity this year. Seven new players.

551
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: It was supposed to be.

552
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 7: Kind of a transitional year for our program and got

553
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 7: off through a slow start.

554
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 5: But we're playing really good basketball right now.

555
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 7: And you know, we've got really good old good guard

556
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 7: play big guard sixty six, two sixty six guards that

557
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 7: can really play player of the Year in our conference.

558
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 7: So I love this team and they're they're excited, and

559
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 7: we'll be ready to go and hopefully we find some

560
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 7: magic out in Columbus CoA.

561
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Joe, We'll tell you one of my seventy four brackets

562
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: I filled out, I did punch you into the final four.

563
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 6: And one of them I did and one of them

564
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 6: just one of them.

565
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, that's very generous of you.

566
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 6: You're welcome. I'll try to raise money for you as well.

567
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

568
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: Perfect, it's been a very productive call.

569
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: All right, get out of here. We appreciated. Good luck

570
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: to you. Know, I please stick around. I want to

571
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: have you on every week, Okay, like I want to

572
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 2: I want this the last April.

573
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 5: Perfect.

574
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 7: Yes, let's I hope that happens, and I appreciate you

575
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 7: having me on and let's stay in touch, all.

576
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Right, Barton Hall, me and you. Where do you play

577
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: golf in Ithaca? There's nowhere to go around there.

578
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that that trip might just be the

579
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: show no golf, but on the.

580
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 6: Show the show's vibe.

581
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: That's good, exactly, all right, coach, good luck against Marquette

582
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 2: and we, uh, well, listen, if I talk to you

583
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: next week, it's because you're still around.

584
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 6: That would be a good thing. Good luck to you.

585
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: Let's go appreciate it.

586
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: Peace. All right, we're gonna get you ready for March.

587
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: It's a tradition unlike any other where Jay Billis comes on. Now,

588
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: he's already acknowledged us several years ago that he's making

589
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: shit up. Okay, there's no way he can watch every

590
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: single team, And so when they throw it to him

591
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: and ask him about a team on the ESPN desk,

592
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: not only has he acknowledged it, but he and his

593
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: friends laugh about it like they're like, Jay, you've never

594
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: seen Kennesaw State. And He's like, I know, but I could,

595
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: just I can get through it. And that's why I

596
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: started that bit a few years ago on The Levatard

597
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: Show where if you just use some common March, March,

598
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of April phrases, then then you're fine.

599
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Like they can really stretch the four floor, they have

600
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: experienced guard, play, good coach, solid coach, really get after

601
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: it defensively. Like stuff like that, you can make it

602
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: seem like you're an expert on Kennesaw State.

603
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: I just feel like I feel like the trick is

604
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: and what Jay has done is memorizing all the mascots

605
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: so that he can always throw the mascot in there so.

606
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: They could be like, oh, what did you think of Fairfield?

607
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: To be like all the stacks like and then just

608
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: go so that you could be like, oh, he obviously

609
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: knows who were talking about.

610
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: He called us the stacks like. That's exactly what he does.

611
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, that is the key to uh to doing it.

612
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: In fact, I think Mike we should ask him the

613
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: four most important things to faking your way through a team,

614
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: or like the three most important team. I do believe

615
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: the team mascot is one of them. Okay, so it's

616
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: like kennisau States that brought them up. I believe that

617
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: they're the owls.

618
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 6: Let me check.

619
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm checking on that. Oh what is Kenisauce State? Hold on?

620
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: This is very very very very excited. They are also

621
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: the couple of owls cutting it.

622
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: A couple of owls who.

623
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: Scrappy the owl So that's what you like, you say, ah,

624
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: the owls out of the a sun and then from

625
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: there you are good. I think the key is the

626
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: owls and the conference, and you're good. Right, if you.

627
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: Get those two things, then I immediately think you know

628
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: what you're talking about.

629
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: And he's already admitted he doesn't, right.

630
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: And like what's the big deal? Like what's the harm

631
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: that no.

632
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: One's gonna check you?

633
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Like you can even say this, Hey, I spent some

634
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: time with Kennesauce State back in February, one of the

635
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: great young coaches we have in America. I am telling

636
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: you they believe and whatever it is he selling, and

637
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: they stretch the.

638
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: Floor, good guard play, they got good length.

639
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Kennesaw State actually starts four guards, all right. It's an

640
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: annual tradition, unlike any other. We fake our way through

641
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament with j Billis, the lead college basketball

642
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: analyst for ESPN, I can't watch you do it anymore.

643
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: After your big reveal a couple of years ago on

644
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: the show, knowing that it's impossible to size up all

645
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: sixty whatever teams that are in the tournament, there's no

646
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: way you've watched them all, but you have figured out

647
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: a way to present to us that you know everything

648
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: about every one and every team in America. And I

649
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: gotta be honest, Jay, I can't watch it without laughing anymore.

650
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 9: Well, I have watched them all. I haven't watched the

651
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 9: intimate stuff, right, But I can be asked my way through.

652
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 9: Just about basketball is a little bit harder, but just

653
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 9: about any sport I can be asked my way through.

654
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, we're gonna give you choices, and we'll give

655
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: you time to think about it. We're gonna see if

656
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: you jay whichever one you want. You could b s

657
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: your way through the Best Picture nominees from this year's Oscars, okay,

658
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: or low level free agency in the NFL meeting, not

659
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, but kickers like Greg Zerline, Okay, you could

660
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: size him up for us. Or the top four quarterbacks

661
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: in this year's NFL draft. Okay, like whichever one you want.

662
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: But we'll give you some time to think about it. Okay,

663
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: And I see you thinking right now? What are you thinking?

664
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: Early on?

665
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 9: Just so we're clear, going outside the box and going

666
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 9: Oscars because I haven't seen any of the movies.

667
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. You didn't see Maverick. Huh?

668
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 9: I saw Maverick. Yeah, Okay, but I'm actually still a

669
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 9: member of the Screen Actors Guild, so I get I

670
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 9: still get all the movies to vote on the SAG Awards,

671
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 9: but I haven't looked at I haven't looked at any

672
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 9: of them.

673
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: Okay, but you feel like you could be as your

674
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: way through through all. Well, skip Maverick, cause that's an

675
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: easy one, but you could be ask your way through

676
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: the other ones, right, sure? Oh my god? I love

677
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: you and I shouldn't have said that. J Billis does

678
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: watch every game, but mike Ya and I were laughing.

679
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Watches every team, he knows about every team. And we'll

680
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: get to the tournament in a second. But what what

681
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: are the three staples? Mike Ya? What were we talking about?

682
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: Like the three staples that you have to say early

683
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: on Jay to make it seem like you know you're

684
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: an expert on ketesaw state.

685
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: That it was no, it was no.

686
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: The mascot yees know what the mascot is, know the conference, yes,

687
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: and know the coach. I think those were the three

688
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: if you could, if you know those three things, you

689
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: can make me believe anything you say afterwards is absolute fact.

690
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Is that fair? Jack?

691
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 9: I don't know that the mascot does me a lot

692
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 9: of good, but but you can sometimes tell when somebody

693
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 9: starts off by saying, well, so and so the coach

694
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 9: does such a great job. They probably haven't seen the

695
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 9: team play.

696
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: They don't know the coach's name. They just call him

697
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: the coach.

698
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 9: No, no, no, they know the guy's name. But but

699
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 9: but you know, with the team, I usually don't lead

700
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 9: off with the coach.

701
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: I lead off with the.

702
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 9: Players because those are the ones that have to do

703
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 9: it all.

704
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with Mikey where if you say the

705
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: owls out of the a Sun and they start four guards,

706
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: he gives you permission to say whatever the hell you

707
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: want after that, like, hey, I spend time with his

708
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: team back in January, even though you did it, Like,

709
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: who's going to check on it?

710
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 9: You know, well, they're not going to check on any

711
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 9: of it anyway. But but I guess if you distract

712
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 9: him with the mascot and they're going, god, I didn't

713
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 9: know Kenness stay was the owls. So then whatever you

714
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 9: say after that just slides slides right through.

715
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

716
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right. Uh let's get to the actual tournament

717
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 2: because and we'll finish up with you faking your way

718
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: through the best movies at the Outscoots this year. But

719
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: I am wondering, like you played it, Duke. You know,

720
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: John Shire, did you think Shier would be this good

721
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 2: this quickly as a head coach?

722
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 9: You do? I didn't know how quickly I knew he

723
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 9: would be this good because he is this good. He's

724
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 9: the real deal, and you know, when you're dealing with

725
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 9: freshman and they had a bunch of injuries to start

726
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 9: the year. He built the team on defense and set

727
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 9: a defensive foundation with the team, and he was really

728
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 9: patient and patient through times where there was criticism coming.

729
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 9: And an example of that is they've got a big

730
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 9: guy named Derek live of his second who was the

731
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 9: number one ranked high school player last year, and he

732
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 9: was injured to start the year, so he wasn't playing

733
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 9: and he wasn't practicing, and when he did get to play,

734
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 9: people were like, this is the number one high school

735
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 9: player last year, Like really, And he was getting criticized

736
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 9: and I can't imagine today for a younger, younger player

737
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 9: when Twitter and Instagram and all that stuff's going after you.

738
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 9: But John kept him in it, and he talked to

739
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 9: the players about what they were capable of doing rather than,

740
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 9: you know, sort of what their results were like. And

741
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 9: that's part of this, you know, the analytics and your record.

742
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 9: Like your record tells you what you've done, it doesn't

743
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 9: tell you what you're capable of doing. And he kept

744
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 9: them focused on what they were capable of doing, and

745
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 9: everything came together toward the second half of the season,

746
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 9: and they they offensively early on, they weren't proficient, didn't

747
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 9: shoot the ball well, and you're you know, after a while,

748
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 9: you're going, dude, can't shoot. And he kept telling them, no,

749
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 9: we can shoot. We haven't made it yet, we can

750
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 9: really shoot. And now you know, you're seeing that, and

751
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 9: he just kind of stayed the course. It is really

752
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 9: impressive down year for the ACC.

753
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm not certain why people are saying that, because I

754
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: happened to think that it was a pretty good year,

755
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: not a traditional year. Carolina didn't make the tournament. We'll

756
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: get to them bailing on the n I t at

757
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: a second here, But I think Miami's a really good

758
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: team and a team that can go to the final four,

759
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: like I thought. I think the AEC teams are pretty

760
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: good this year.

761
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 9: Jed, well, you can you can have that and still

762
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 9: be a down year. So I think I think it

763
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 9: is a down year for the AC seed because in

764
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 9: past years, not last year, but in past years, we've

765
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 9: been talking about how many number one overall seeds the

766
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 9: league is going to get, and how many ones and twos,

767
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 9: and you know they're going to get eight teams in

768
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 9: the tournament or whatever. This year it was five, and

769
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 9: I thought should have been six with Clemson, but there

770
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 9: were a bunch of teams that were close to the

771
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 9: line and that we're sweating it out, like Pittsburgh and

772
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 9: NC State were sweating it out on selection Sunday as

773
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 9: to whether they were going to get in and Clemson didn't.

774
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 9: The best teams are Duke in Virginia, and Duke was

775
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 9: a five seed. I thought they should have been a three,

776
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 9: but still is a three, You'd say, well that's not

777
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 9: a you know, Duke's usually one two, stuff like that.

778
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 9: And then Virginia I think was a four seed. So

779
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 9: it was a down year. But that said, the teams

780
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 9: that are in, like I agree with you, the Miami,

781
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 9: as long as North Chadowmere is helped the Miami's legit.

782
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 9: They went to the Elite eight last year, and so

783
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 9: I think the separation between the top teams and all

784
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 9: these different leagues is pretty slim, but both those things

785
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 9: are gonna be true. The ACC can have a down

786
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 9: year and the teams that got in are capable of

787
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 9: doing very well.

788
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: I was talking with Tom Izzo last week and Dick

789
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: Vitale actually earlier today, and I got the sense from

790
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: them that college basketball has lost its charmed a bit.

791
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is it's funny. We

792
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: were on the show today talking about who the Texas

793
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: head coach was and Mike Ryan asked, is it Rick Barnes?

794
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: And I said, I think he was three coaches ago.

795
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Shakas Smart And Dan said, I think that's

796
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: two coaches ago. And we didn't know the Texas head

797
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: coach and they might be the best team in the country.

798
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: But with all the player movement in the coach movement,

799
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: has college basketball lost its charm? Jay, because part of

800
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: the charm was Patrick Ewing would be at Georgetown for

801
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: three or four years with Reggie Williams and David wooingate

802
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: you guys would stay at Duke and Coach k was

803
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: the coach and John Thompson was the coach. And we've

804
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: kind of lost that, we lost it's kind of lost

805
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: its way a bit.

806
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 9: I feel I don't agree. I mean, that was forty

807
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 9: years ago and people didn't watch as much consume as

808
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 9: much of the sport as they do now. Like back then,

809
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 9: game of the week was literal. There was only one

810
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 9: game on nationally a week, and then you had maybe

811
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 9: some local stuff that you saw, So people didn't watch

812
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 9: as much and they certainly didn't have as many choices.

813
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 9: So the players today are way more well known than

814
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 9: they were back then. And most of the people that

815
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 9: are saying it's lost their charm have have lost their

816
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 9: ability to walk without a walker, Like we're HARKing back

817
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 9: to our younger days when when things were different, and

818
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 9: you know, you can make that argument that television was

819
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 9: better back then. Remember we used to sit by on Sunday.

820
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 9: We would all watch it together, you know, when this

821
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 9: came on or that can't Well, it doesn't work that

822
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 9: way anymore. You can stream everything now and you can

823
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 9: binge watch it and watch it when you feel like it,

824
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 9: and you don't have to flip channels anymore. You can

825
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 9: watch whatever you want. So TV's lost this charm in

826
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 9: that regard. But if you want guys to stay four years,

827
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 9: all they have to do is pay them like they

828
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 9: didn't have a choice back then. The guys have choices

829
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 9: now and so they're taking those choices. And the truth

830
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 9: is people don't like it. Like boy, I really miss

831
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 9: the days when people had to work for free and

832
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 9: I got to enjoy it. Well, I'm sorry that that

833
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 9: charm's gone, and it should be. There's no way that

834
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 9: it should be like it was for forever.

835
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: I also find it interesting that the bigger schools at

836
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: the time is Michigan States. They don't like the transfer portal.

837
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: But we spoke to the Vermont head coach and he

838
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: loves it because guys who don't work out at places

839
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: like Michigan State and have transferred to Vermont and play

840
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: all they want. And so I think it's interesting depending

841
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: on who you speak to as to whether or not

842
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: they like it. Vermont loves it, Michigan State hates it well.

843
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 9: And I understand that Tom and I talk about this

844
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 9: a lot, and and look, it is different for a

845
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 9: guy like Tom, where you know, it's it's harder to

846
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 9: establish the same kinds of relationships with players that you

847
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 9: used to be able to do. Uh And and he

848
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 9: asks to go into the transfer portal sometimes too you

849
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 9: know Joey Hawser one of his best players, and Tyson Walker.

850
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 9: Those guys, Tyson Walker from North Northeastern, Joey Hawser came

851
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 9: in from from Marquette. So it's it's different. And some

852
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 9: people say, well, it's more transactional. It was transactional then too,

853
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 9: you offered him a scholarship. The guy wasn't coming there

854
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 9: without the transaction of the scholarship. So so it's a

855
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 9: little bit different, but it's just something that everybody kind

856
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 9: of has to get used to. The thing I like

857
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 9: the best about it is there are a bunch of

858
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 9: players in the tournament this year that that people know now,

859
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 9: not because of the tournament, but they know him now

860
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 9: because they're plan on bigger stages. So if a guy

861
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 9: kills it at Vermont to your choice or to your example,

862
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 9: if guy's there and he gets really good and decides,

863
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 9: you know what, I want to transfer to Michigan State

864
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 9: and play in the big ten, play in a big stage.

865
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 9: Now everybody knows who that kid is. And before it

866
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 9: required the toil and anonymity at Vermont for four years

867
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 9: and that would be the end of it. And I

868
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 9: like it that they can change their circumstances if they

869
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 9: choose Jay, Did.

870
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: You ever consider coaching.

871
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I did. I was an assistant at Duke in

872
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 9: the nineties early nineties, and then and then I you know,

873
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 9: with my law degree, I decided to be a lawyer.

874
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 9: But I've had offers over the years to get back

875
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 9: into it and just decided for family reasons, it wasn't

876
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 9: the best thing.

877
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: I asked that because we were laughing. Jay Wright looked

878
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: fifteen years younger since he retired, like he was good

879
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: looking when he was coaching at Villanova. But I saw

880
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: him on the CBS set the other day and that

881
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: guy looks as relaxed as I've ever seen him.

882
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 9: Well, television will wear them out. It's such a grind,

883
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 9: you know. I don't think people realize when you leave

884
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 9: the cushy, a cushy coaching job that all you have

885
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 9: to do is sit there and tell somebody else what

886
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 9: to do, and you get to wear shorts to work

887
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 9: every day, and then you go into the heavy lifting

888
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 9: grind of broadcasting. I think he'll find out the mistake

889
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 9: that he made.

890
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Jay villis is with us getting those ready for March.

891
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: Who was the best team you saw this this year?

892
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: Jaed Boy.

893
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 9: Alabama was awfully, awfully difficult to say anyone else. I mean,

894
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 9: they're they're super talented, they're young, but they they they're resilient.

895
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 9: I had them several times this year and seemed like

896
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 9: every game, you know they were, they were up against it.

897
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 9: I had them on the road every time, and they

898
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 9: came back and won these games that they should have

899
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 9: lost that most teams would have lost, most older teams

900
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 9: would have lost. So I was really impressed with them

901
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 9: throughout the course of the year. And Houston was as

902
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 9: consistent as anybody. They don't shoot it as well as

903
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 9: Alabama does, don't score it as easily, but nobody's nobody's

904
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 9: a knockout punch team this year. Like there's nobody I

905
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 9: felt like a couple of years ago when Baylor and

906
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 9: Getzaga played for the national championship. But I would have

907
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 9: been really surprised if they weren't in the final four.

908
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if any of the top seeds,

909
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 9: ones and twos, if they lost on their way there.

910
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 9: Obviously they're not all going to lose, but it wouldn't

911
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 9: surprise me to see a final four that's got a

912
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 9: couple of twos and a four or something like that,

913
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 9: and none of the ones make it because it's just

914
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 9: they're not knockout punch punch teams.

915
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: Of the teams, you and I know you've watched tape

916
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: on all of them, but of maybe let's go from

917
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: five seed up to I guess a sixteen seed. Are

918
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: there a handful of teams that you think that Jay

919
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: billis things could find themselves in the final four. I

920
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: don't know. Miami is one that we discussed as a

921
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: five seed. Is there are there any other teams that

922
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: you're thinking, hey, if that team gets on a run,

923
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: they can find themselves playing in the final four.

924
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, Miami could do it if nor Chadow meres healthy.

925
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 9: They got a difficult draw. They played Drake in the

926
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 9: opening round and then the winner of Indiana Kent State,

927
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 9: and neither one of those teams will be fun to

928
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 9: play against. But that's in Houston's bracket, so they would

929
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 9: have to go through like Houston, Texas and maybe Houston

930
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 9: to get there. So it's unlikely. It's unlikely for everybody

931
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 9: to get there. It's difficult to do. I think Yukon

932
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 9: is a good team. They got a tough draw because

933
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 9: they play likely to play a couple pressing teams to

934
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 9: start out, like I own a presses a lot, and

935
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 9: they've got really good guards and they actually have a

936
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 9: seven to four player, but they can tempo you and

937
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 9: try to take some of the big guys out, and

938
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 9: if they can turn you over a little bit, all

939
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 9: of a sudden, you start getting tight and they start

940
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 9: getting loose and things can get away. I still think

941
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 9: Gonzaga is is undervalued. They're a three seed this year,

942
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 9: which is like, you know, people look at as a

943
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 9: huge failure most teams from smaller conference that they'd hang

944
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 9: a banner for a three seed and everybody's disappointed. I

945
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 9: think Memphis can beat Perdue in the second round. They

946
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 9: got to be Florida Atlantic first, which is not going

947
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 9: to be easy, but they're really good. And then another

948
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 9: team I think is kind of kind of interesting is Creighton.

949
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 9: Like I thought Creighton was Final four good before the

950
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 9: season started, and they ran into a couple of rough

951
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 9: patches during the year, but they're point guard Ryan Nemhard,

952
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 9: Andrew Nemhar's brother who is now playing in the NBA,

953
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 9: played at Gonzaga Florida first, thinking Zaga. And then they

954
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 9: got this kid, Baylor Shireman who played South Dakota State,

955
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 9: was a Darling of the tournament last year, transferred in.

956
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 9: He's six', eight left, handed can shoot, it a great,

957
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 9: passer great defensive, rebounder And creighton has rim. Protection. Uh

958
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 9: they got a kid Named ryan Call brenner who can

959
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 9: block a lot of shots and he's really an efficient big.

960
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 9: Guy SO i wouldn't be surprised If, creighton you, know

961
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 9: gave everybody a run in the in The. South But

962
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 9: arizona And alabama are the two best teams in that.

963
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: Region how about your Buddy Chris Collins? Northwestern can they

964
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: make a little bit of a run. HERE i was

965
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: surprised to see that they had such a good.

966
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 9: Season, YEAH i mean they're really good, defensively they don't

967
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 9: score that, easily and that's probably the one. PROBLEM i

968
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 9: mean for people who are filling their brackets. Out if

969
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 9: you look at some of the analytics that can be,

970
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 9: helpful like kenpom dot com and stuff like, that where

971
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 9: if you're in the top twenty five in both offensive

972
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 9: and defensive, efficiency you're a pretty good bet to go

973
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 9: far in the. Tournament if you're not And northwestern is

974
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 9: highly ranked in defense but not highly ranked in. Offense

975
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 9: and they Played Boise state to start, out and boise

976
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 9: can cause them some problems because they can, shoot and

977
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 9: They're boise's really good defensively, Too so it could be

978
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 9: a it's not gonna be a high scoring.

979
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 6: Game is my.

980
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 9: Sense and and you kind of Favor Boise state in

981
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 9: that game a little, bit even though they're the they're the.

982
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 9: Underdog you're right AFTER.

983
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 2: Boobooi there's not a lot of guys on that team

984
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: that can actually score the, Basketball so that's problematic for For.

985
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: Northwestern any issues With North carolina missing or skipping the

986
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: n I t seems weak to.

987
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 9: Me only if you if you quarrel with the name

988
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 9: of the, tournament which is The National Invitation, tournament and

989
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 9: if you get an, invitation you should be allowed to

990
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 9: turn it. Down the whole thing is one big RS, vp,

991
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 9: RIGHT i DON'T i don't have any problem with. IT

992
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 9: i just can't think of anything worse than if the

993
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 9: players don't want to, play and the fans don't want

994
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 9: to watch, it and the coaches don't want to do,

995
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 9: it then why would you do? It you, know the

996
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 9: N I t was really. Value it can be really

997
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 9: value if you got a young team and you want

998
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 9: to give them some extra reps and extra. Practice but

999
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 9: they're not a young Team North carolina AND uh and

1000
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 9: SO i don't have any problem with, it BUT i

1001
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 9: can see how other people, do and reasonable minds can

1002
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 9: differ on. It but but if people think that that

1003
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 9: somehow college basketball is, Diminished Holy, Kyle, like why do

1004
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 9: we care about the n I t if it's?

1005
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: Diminished because the message That carolina gave is, like, hey

1006
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: we're too big for the N I. T that's that's

1007
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: that's the way it came off to a lot of.

1008
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: PEOPLE i don't REALLY.

1009
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 9: I don't, either but but there's a part of me

1010
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 9: that thinks that maybe they are too big for. It you,

1011
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 9: know it's not going to be they'd probably get a home.

1012
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 9: GAME i don't know what kind of crowd they'd. Get you,

1013
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 9: know are they going to make any money out of?

1014
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 9: It the n I t is not a big money making.

1015
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 9: Event AND uh AND i tend TO i tend to

1016
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 9: agree with. IT i don't think we need an N.

1017
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 9: T the reason we have one is because THE ncaa

1018
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 9: was about to lose a lawsuit in the N I

1019
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 9: t and they had to buy it as part of the,

1020
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 9: settlement so they kept.

1021
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: It and and.

1022
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 9: Look all respect all these different, teams BUT i, mean

1023
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 9: the committee spoke and they took the sixty, eight AND

1024
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 9: i think everybody else needs to move. On but but

1025
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 9: reasonable minds can differ on that one.

1026
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: Too Rick, petino before we get to, you you faking

1027
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: your way through the. Oscars Rick petino To Saint john's good.

1028
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 9: Fit rick is a good fit. Anywhere he'll he'll do great,

1029
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 9: Anywhere AND i think especially For Saint john's that needs

1030
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 9: an injection of energy and and having his name there

1031
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 9: and his coaching. ABILITY i think it'd be great if

1032
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 9: he decides to take. It it sounds like he's really

1033
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 9: thinking about it because he's been talking about it, Publicly so,

1034
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 9: yeah it'd be. Great it'd be great to have him

1035
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 9: sort of back in the day to day where you

1036
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 9: can see him more. Often and you, know you have

1037
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 9: to search for The iona games AND i, did but

1038
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 9: But i'd love to be able to see him more.

1039
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: Often Jim beheim quickly had a, complicated somewhat complicated career

1040
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: and he's retired now when we'll he'll Say, syracuse they

1041
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: made that. Decision but, Whatever how would you Summarize beheim's.

1042
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 9: CAREER i think one of the truly great coaching careers

1043
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 9: in the game's. History you, know he not only won

1044
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 9: over a thousand, games which only two coaches have ever

1045
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 9: done that on the men's, Side coach k And Jim.

1046
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 9: Bayheim but he did. It he never lost his sort

1047
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 9: Of Big East remember back in the, day The Big

1048
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 9: east coaches were, characters, yes and now you got to

1049
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 9: be more, corporate and he never lost kind of the character.

1050
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 9: Thing he's always done it his. Way AND i mean

1051
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 9: that in the most positive. Sense and, Look Stu gott's

1052
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 9: when you stick around that, long nothing is going to

1053
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 9: have the perfect. Ending you, know for, coaches when it's

1054
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 9: that long period of, time it's so few get to

1055
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 9: kind of choose their their. Landing BUT i look at

1056
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 9: it the same way it did with you, know for our,

1057
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 9: age Like Willie mays his last last year with The,

1058
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 9: mets when it didn't work out for him in The World.

1059
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 9: Series there's probably some twenty three when they played played The.

1060
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 9: A's he didn't have a good, series and people thought he's,

1061
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 9: old all that, Stuff but at the end of, it

1062
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 9: you're left with one of the great players of all

1063
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 9: time that brings a smile to your face when you

1064
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 9: think about. It and and For, JIM i feel the

1065
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 9: same way about him in. Basketball you know he's been an.

1066
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 9: Innovator and you know you won't be able to think

1067
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 9: About syracuse without his name coming into your mind for

1068
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 9: the rest of our, lives.

1069
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: No doubt about. It All, right we're going to get

1070
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: to the. Movies but, first if you wouldn't, mind like

1071
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: is you were a witness to perhaps the worst golfing

1072
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 2: advice that anyone has ever given, anyone and you called

1073
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: me out for. It and THEN i read an article

1074
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: later on that, said, indeed the worst advice you can

1075
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: give any new golfer is to simply keep your head.

1076
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: Death i've meant to send it to, you AND i forgot.

1077
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 6: Too is?

1078
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: It is? It indeed the worst advice you can give

1079
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: a new. Golfer because we See jay every year At Late,

1080
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: Tahoe Mike ryan was out, THERE i was on the

1081
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: driving range of mic is not very. GOOD i told

1082
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: him to keep his head down and j shrend me

1083
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: shrended me. Abart it's the worst advice, ever, Right.

1084
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 9: Yeah AND i think there's a there's probably worst advice

1085
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 9: that was was muttered on that. RANGE i, MEAN i

1086
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 9: do not consider myself a knowledgeable, Golfer Like i'm a

1087
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 9: single digit. HANDICAP i play a. LOT i really enjoy,

1088
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 9: it BUT i didn't grow up, Playing and so there's

1089
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 9: still so there's there's far more about the. GAME i

1090
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 9: don't know THAT i, know but one THING i do

1091
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 9: know that the last place you should ever take advice

1092
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 9: is on a driving range from somebody who's near. You

1093
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 9: it should be from A pga professional that that's as

1094
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 9: that's probably as good for you taking like health advice

1095
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 9: on what you should do on a health matter from

1096
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 9: somebody that's outside of a. Supermarket there's nothing.

1097
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: Ever offer golf advice to.

1098
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 9: Anyone, no why WOULD i tell somebody IF i was so,

1099
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 9: Good i'd be playing somewhere, Else, like why WOULD i

1100
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 9: tell somebody? Else? Right and uh Uh and and that's

1101
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 9: the last place they want to hear, it you. Know,

1102
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 9: meanwhile you got a, guy you, Know hozzle rocketing shots

1103
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 9: into the into the media, center and your you, know

1104
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 9: your response is keep your head.

1105
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: Down AND i had money against, them like he was.

1106
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: Playing i'm the one giving him, advice and he AND

1107
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 2: i had a bet.

1108
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 9: On the, round and so there were there were fifty

1109
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 9: other things that you could have told him that he

1110
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 9: was doing worse than whether his head was moving a little.

1111
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 9: BIT i recall giving. HIM i recall, actually you, know

1112
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 9: trying to make up for your egregious error and telling

1113
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 9: him something and having him having it work out very.

1114
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: Well he played great that, day and he thanked you.

1115
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: Afterwards he. Did he had a round the round of his.

1116
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: LIFE i might say he shot one.

1117
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 7: Hundred.

1118
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 9: DATE i don't THINK i want to take credit for that.

1119
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: One now you, should because it would have been like

1120
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: one forty four had you not given him that. Advice

1121
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: that's how bad he. Is mike used the driver and

1122
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: A r.

1123
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 9: Three at my, course it works no matter what you.

1124
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: Hit, jay he stuck at five inches from the, hole

1125
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: not even. Joking it's one of the great collar Shots

1126
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: i've ever. Seen must have been a lot of. Wind

1127
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: he teed it up very. High all, right here we.

1128
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: Go are you ready for The best picture? Nominees, okay

1129
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: so you Saw. Maverick all, right let's start with, well

1130
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: let's start let's start at the. Top everything, everywhere all At,

1131
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: once j, billis what do you think of that movie

1132
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: was nominated For Best.

1133
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: Picture it Won Best Picture.

1134
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 9: Stu Gott's Everything Everywhere all At. Once the screenplay was.

1135
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 9: Magnificent just the pacing it was. Beautiful the CINEMATOGRAPHY i

1136
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 9: think left something to be, desired but the way the

1137
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 9: film was written was. Gorgeous and the, SOUNDTRACK i think

1138
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 9: was was. Fabulous it's going to be one of the

1139
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 9: all time great films THAT i think will stand the

1140
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 9: test of.

1141
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: Time holy, shit he's good at. This this is. Ridiculous

1142
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: he's right about. EVERYTHING i, mean he is cleaned up

1143
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: with the. Oscars all, right let's go to a. Tar go, Ahead.

1144
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 9: Tar tar left me with a feeling that it was,

1145
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 9: unfinished that it was a beautiful concept that was rushed.

1146
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 9: Through and the film, editing THOUGH i had to, say

1147
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 9: was next level because it took some sequences that perhaps

1148
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 9: at the beginning didn't make sense and put everything into

1149
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 9: context at the. End SO i, THOUGHT i thought.

1150
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: That film editing saved. It, okay let's Go triangle Of.

1151
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Sadness can you must do anything up with a triangle of?

1152
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Sadness triangle Of sadness actually made me. Happy it was so.

1153
00:56:54,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Uplifting how could a movie that's Named triangle Of sadness

1154
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: and brings you in expecting to be? MOROSE i was

1155
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: tapping my feet throughout the entire.

1156
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 9: Film UH i. DID i did feel that the. Wardrobe you,

1157
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 9: know usually costumes and wardrobe are an overlooked part of a.

1158
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 9: Film BUT i THOUGHT i thought they nailed. IT i

1159
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 9: thought they nailed, it you, know for a, period for

1160
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 9: a period piece to come off that, WELL i was blown,

1161
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 9: away fucking.

1162
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: Awesome i'm gonna ask you one low level free agency

1163
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: and just see if you can muster it. Up, OKAY

1164
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: nfl free, agency just see if you can muster one. Up,

1165
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: Kicker greg's are. Lined he signs with The New York.

1166
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: Jets that's war. Line, okay tell us everything you know

1167
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: About greg's. Warline it's the war.

1168
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 9: Line.

1169
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: BIGFOOT i, MEAN i think his nickname Is legatron or

1170
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: something like.

1171
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: That greg the leg.

1172
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: Is.

1173
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 9: Perfect, no he's got a big. Foot to have a

1174
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 9: guy that can kick that, DEEP i mean you can

1175
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 9: actually put him. In and the things to gots About

1176
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 9: greg the leg is usually if he's going to have

1177
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 9: to kick a sixty three yarder to win a, game

1178
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 9: you're gonna be able to get a hand on, it

1179
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 9: because those are usually low. TRAJECTORY i don't Think i've

1180
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 9: ever seen a kicker that can get to the bottom

1181
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 9: of the ball and launch it at a trajectory at

1182
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 9: that distance and still get it. There, extraordinary extraordinary trajectory

1183
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 9: on those those longer, kicks and anything inside of forty is.

1184
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: A layup for.

1185
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 9: Him it's a. Joke that's a no. Brainer in one

1186
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 9: of the great. Pickups he should have been a first

1187
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 9: round draft.

1188
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: PICK i want to end it right, there because it's

1189
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: perfect and, you except for the first round draft, pick

1190
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: you get carried, away but you Nailed greg the.

1191
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 9: Leg, no but people undervalue. Kicker it's like Great guy

1192
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 9: should have been a first round draft. Pick he might have,

1193
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 9: been was he he was later a round when he was.

1194
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: A later round, pick but eventually made The hall Of.

1195
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 9: Fame, yes and there aren't enough kickers and punters in

1196
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 9: The hall Of. Fame Great guy may have been the, first,

1197
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 9: Right and look how important field position. Is and and

1198
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 9: we just didn't understand how far Ahead Great guy was

1199
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 9: of the game with hang. Time didn't matter how far

1200
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 9: his punts, were they got. Covered, yes you're, right and

1201
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 9: same thing With greg the Lake man should have been

1202
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 9: a first round draft. PICK i stand by.

1203
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: That, OKAY i know you. Will, billis how are you

1204
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: so good at? This and?

1205
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 9: BULLSHITTING i was born a, Bullshitter, Ez.

1206
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: That's why he became an. Attorney.

1207
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 9: Eight you should have seen. Me The my best bullshit

1208
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 9: ever WAS I i missed a math test WHEN i

1209
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 9: was in sixth. Grade and back then in Southern, california

1210
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 9: some of the schools were, overcrowded so we had these

1211
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 9: things called portable classrooms that little wooden steps up to

1212
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 9: him as like a, trailer almost like a. Trailer SO

1213
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 9: i missed a math test and SO i was made

1214
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 9: to take it the next, day AND i was sitting.

1215
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 9: Outside the teacher had asked me to go outside and

1216
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 9: take the, test and meanwhile she was grading the test

1217
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 9: with the. CLASS i could hear the whole thing WHILE

1218
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 9: i was taking the. Test so what WAS i supposed to?

1219
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 9: DO i, mean what WAS i supposed to? Do like

1220
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 9: put put sand in my? Ears SO i got everything,

1221
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 9: right and you, know turn the paper, in turned the test.

1222
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 9: In and later on she called me up to her

1223
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 9: desk and she, SAID i hate to say, this BUT

1224
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 9: i think you may have cheated on. This And i'm,

1225
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 9: Like i'm what are you? KIDDING i, MEAN i can't

1226
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 9: believe you said. That and she, said all, right there's

1227
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 9: and she said there's no work shown. Here and she,

1228
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 9: said tell me how you got to. This and SO

1229
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 9: i totally be asked my way through, it because the

1230
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 9: whole thing was just me writing down WHAT i was.

1231
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 9: HEARING i don't and SO i came up with something

1232
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 9: AND i, said that's that's HOW i got to that,

1233
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 9: answer and she she put the, Pencil she put her pencil,

1234
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 9: down and she took her glasses, off and she, SAID i.

1235
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: Owe you an.

1236
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 9: APOLOGY i thought you, cheated but clearly you know. This

1237
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 9: and uh AND i, just you, know told, her don't

1238
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 9: don't worry about. It AND i just walked back to

1239
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 9: my chair and, like you, KNOW i had to change

1240
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 9: my pants AFTER i accept your.

1241
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: Apology it's. Okay as what WAS i gonna? Do?

1242
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: It might as well hold the.

1243
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 9: LINE i might as well hold the. Line, No, no that's.

1244
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: GOOD i would pay any amount of money to get

1245
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: a hold of that sixth grade. Test and have you

1246
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: explained how you got to the? Answers that is such

1247
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: a great. Move by you a great move by the,

1248
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: teacher and then you checkmated her by actually having bullshitting

1249
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: the ways you got to the. Answers because that's a

1250
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: great response by the. Teacher you would, agree, right.

1251
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 9: Well THEN i never had to show work after. THAT

1252
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 9: i had great credibility That.

1253
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: Jay in that, spot you got to get a couple

1254
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: of wrong purposely like you have all the. Answers you

1255
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: got to make it look, like, Hey i'm not perfect

1256
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: and get a ninety instead of one. Hundred you, KNOW

1257
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: i THINK i would have been caught IF i tried

1258
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: to appear Like i'm not.

1259
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 9: Perfect that would have been the.

1260
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: Giveaway the one hundred was in. Sellible and your infinite

1261
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: knowledge of having to get to the, Answer holy, SHIT

1262
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: i love, That. Mikey let's have a sixth grade test

1263
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: For billis next time he's here a Gay, yeah, okay all, Right,

1264
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: jay we appreciate. It get out of. Here you're the.

1265
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: BEST i love doing with. It in, FACT i would

1266
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: like to do this outside of basketball, season when we

1267
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: bring you on as an expert on. Anything is that?

1268
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: Fair that'd be.

1269
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 9: Great i'd love.

1270
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: That, okay, good BECAUSE i think you enjoy that more

1271
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: than you two talk in. College YOU i.

1272
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 9: Did it is kind of. Fun, YEAH i. Know we

1273
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 9: found some there great a career out of.

1274
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: It thank You. Jay Anybody, Mike i'm telling, YOU i

1275
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: don't Think i've heard a better bullshitter in the history

1276
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: in my lifetime Than Jay, billis which speaks volumes About,

1277
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: listen he went To, duke he's an, attorney AND i

1278
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: think that combination can possibly make. You the combination Of

1279
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: duke and being an attorney can make you the greatest

1280
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: bullshitter in the history of. Bullshiting you, know.

1281
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: You wonder if he would have really had the grades

1282
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: and the knowledge to pass the bar or if he

1283
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: just kind of bullshited his way through, It because either,

1284
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: WAY i want to hire.

1285
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: HIM i need a. LAWYER i want to hire.

1286
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: HIM i think next time we have him, on you

1287
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: have to ask him if he actually took the bar

1288
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: or did he bullshit his way through? It does he

1289
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: actually have a law degree or does he just show

1290
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: up at court and play the bar jellous. Man that

1291
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: guy is so. Good anything new On Mercedes LEWIS.

1292
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: B, no nothing new On Mercedes lewis.

1293
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: Too has he made any more? Demands Aaron rodgers since

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Speaker 2: uh since we spoke twenty four minutes. Ago, yeah he.

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Speaker 3: Wants Ryan grant to come out of.

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Speaker 2: Retirement, now go get him running, Back go get him