1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is strong coming off the 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: bye week. Welcome back to another edition to Be Around 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas and I 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with hero is, Mark Sesler, 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What about boys? Hey man, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: we have a bye week. I've not been notified of this. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: I'll take a week off. Haven't he proposed that, Yeah, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: you wanted to leave for a whole month or something 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: like that. Well give me a break, all right? When 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you yeah, that was your plan. How long you could 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: disappear and get away? That's my Odell Beckham. You should 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: you should be lucky to be inside the studio today. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Of all the podcasts we've ever done, this is gonna 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: be the best one ever. Wow. Why why do you 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: say that? I don't think that's gonna get a hero 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: pick on that. I just gotta feeling magic, I can 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: we need to set those expectations up top. Yeah, no, 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I felt that unnecessary. But we're gonna do our best. 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: That's all we can really say. This is our of course, 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: our Thursday Big Week six Mega preview show. Uh, We're 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna go through all the games on another week of 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: NFL Action, talk about who we picked over our hero picks, 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: have people defend their heroes, all that good stuff before 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: we get into any of the games. We've got a 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: lot to get to, so we're gonna get into it quickly. 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Let's first throw to the gentleman that handled the Thursday 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: Night Action take it away, guys, Thanks Dan pulling the 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: late shift here with Chris Wesley and and we were 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: lucky this time. I mean Andrew Luck throws for three 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: seventy yards, Colts win a tight game in there in 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: first place, and yet all I can really think about 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: right now is J. J. Watt. Yeah. Our instant debate 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: this week was who was more fun to watch? Andrew 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Luck or J J. Watt. You have to go with 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback because the cameras on him. But even as 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: great as Luck was tonight, what was the show? I 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: think Luck was more fun tonight. Yeah. I think you're 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: trying to be too cute and sounds smart about football 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: if you say J. J. Watt. But he is the 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: most fun defensive player to watch in my lifetime, and 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: he's in the middle of the most dominant stretch that 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: any defensive player has had that I've ever seen, and 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: that it's not hyperbole that I've ever witnessed. This stretch 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: this season is as dominant defensive players aren't supposed to 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: take over in games like this. I was just a 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: little kid when Lawrence Taylor was playing, so I don't 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: know if he was that dominant. It wouldn't surprise me 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: if he was well. And and the thing with why 49 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: don't come at me with oh, he was lucky, picked 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: up a fumble and took it back. First of all, 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: that was a wildly athletic play. Second of all, he 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: was blowing up the running game four three tackles for 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: loss and in another bunch of ones right at the 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage all by himself. Two sacks, three passes, defense, 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: killed a couple of drives basically as a as a 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: past defender. And then you know you add in four 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: QB hits and the touchdown too. Yeah, there's nobody like him. 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: It's he should be in the m v P race. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Was waiting for that. It was coming. I knew it 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: was coming. He had to do it, and so what 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: of course, helped the Texans come back in this game. 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: It was looking like a Thursday night laugher again. The 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Colts win thirty eight, but the score was twenty four 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: to nothing after one quarter. At one point early in 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: the second quarter, the Colts had two eighteen yards. The 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Texans had negative one yard. So what did the Colts do? 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: What did you see from Andrew Luck to first of all, 68 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: to get this big lead and then and then kind 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: of blow it the rest of the game. Well, Luck 70 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: is on pace for fifty yards and forty five touchdowns. People, 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: I would like to say unenlightened. People get on him 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: for making too many interceptions and mistakes, but that's because 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: he's taking chances that other quarterbacks don't take. And that 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: means that the Colts make bigger plays than other than 75 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: other teams. And they're leading the NFL and points per 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: game this year because of talking about putting on a show. 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean he, he and t Y Hilton put on 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: a show. T Y Hilton two twenty three yards. The 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: throws down the field where beauties. But you know me 80 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: and you we love little pocket movement. No one, no 81 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: one is better at pocket movement and just has an innate, 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: insane feel of how to get away from pressure and 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: buy some extra time and then deliver a dart right 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: down the middle of the field and Andrew Luck it's 85 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: like he his back eyes in the back of his 86 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: head sometimes with guys coming on the blind side and 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: he just runs away from it. Yeah, while we're discussing 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: the best we've ever seen, he's the best I've ever 89 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: seen in pocket movement. And he's only in his third 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: He was that good in pocket movement as a rookie. Yeah, 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: I would say Tom Brady would be up there for me, 92 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: but you know, early in his career. But it's different 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: with Luck because he brings a you know, elite sort 94 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: of top five most athletic quarterbacks to the mix, and 95 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady could could never do that. You know the 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: problem I think with the Colts in this game. You know, 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: you gotta give the Texans defense credit. You gotta give 98 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Arian Foster some credit for the comeback, 99 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: but they didn't move the ball well in the second half, 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: partly because they couldn't run two point seven yards because 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: that's when J. J. Watt took over the game, right. 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that you want to 103 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: see them be able to close out games. Trent Richards 104 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: in two point four yards per carry toward of the 105 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: same way that we've seen in Mad Brad Richards and 106 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: at two point four yards per carry. Because there's some 107 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: runs that you see any other running back would have 108 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: broken off for thirty yards and there's a hole and 109 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: he decides to run sideways or backwards. He has no vision. 110 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: He's afraid of too much space. He sees all that 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: space and he freaks out and he's like, let's get 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: back to the middle where all the bodies are, and 113 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I'll just start running over some people. Yeah, he just 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: his instincts and vision are way off. This was a 115 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: really fun game because we saw some unbelievable players. Andre Johnson, 116 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: who's not as explosive as he once was, made a 117 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: ton of great catches, helped lead this come back. My 118 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: guy was not my guy at all. But for this game, 119 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: can you at least give Ryan Fitzpatrick a little bit 120 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: of credit for throwing some nice passes down the field? 121 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: I thought he played well in this game. How low 122 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: is the bar that we're setting here, I mean nine 123 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: point two yards per attempt that would lead the league. 124 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. He didn't do anything for me. Oh 125 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: my gosh. Some of the sideline passes he had, he 126 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: had one to Demeris Johnson went to Andre Johnson. He 127 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: he was under pressure. That offensive line is not really 128 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: good right now, and I think that's one thing that 129 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: gets lost. This defense is not really very good anymore. 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: It's just J. J. Watt. It's it's a boring defense. 131 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: They miss Wade Phillips, they have Romeo Cornell, it was 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: just J. J. Watt. The secondary to me is overrated. 133 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: And then the offensive line, which used to be really good, 134 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: is not very good either, especially not protecting bad. We 135 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: should credit the Colts defense a little bit too. They 136 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: have They are now tied for the league leading sacks 137 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: and we thought their their pass rush would disappear without 138 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: Robert Mathis. Oh yeah, sealed the game with a strip 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: sack after getting Flacco twice last week, and they've given 140 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: up only three third down conversions in the last three weeks. Wow, 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you got yeah. You do have to give the Colts 142 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: defense credit. Not uh, totally consistent game, but in the end, 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: the Colts offense is last three drives were fumble, punt, punt, 144 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: and the Texans got the ball back to different times 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: where they could have maybe taken the lead. They the 146 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Colts got a takeaway from Andre Johnson, and then they 147 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: got a takeaway by sacking Ryan Fitzpatrick. You mentioned Werner, 148 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: So in the end, it was the Colts defense that 149 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: closed out the game. But I always kind of felt 150 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: when when Houston had the ball, it was almost like 151 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the volume was turned down on the game, you know 152 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like when what and Luck were 153 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: on the field, it was like that was the game. 154 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: It was. We were just kind of bide in time 155 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: until they got back on there. With one exception, Arian 156 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: Foster hasn't lost a step. He looks he looks this year. 157 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he had one game he lost to a 158 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. In one game he only had six rushing 159 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: yards against the Bills, and he's still second only to 160 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: the Marco Murray and looks that good as it looks 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: as good as the numbers. He He's looked incredible the 162 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: last two weeks. We talked about him on Wednesday's podcast. Um, 163 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: I just I'm excited to watch these two teams play 164 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: again in week fifteen. I don't know if Houston will 165 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: still be in the mix, but we might be watching 166 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett. It's cool that the most exciting offensive player 167 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: in the league. I think quarterback Andrew Luck and the 168 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: most exciting defensive player in the league, the two most 169 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: exciting young players in the league. They're in the same division. 170 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: We get to watch them twice a year, probably for 171 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's sign up for another seven, eight, 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: nine years of this. And they lived up the expectations 173 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: tonight and then some they did. All right, we gotta 174 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: get to all the Week six games. So to do that, 175 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: let's send it back to Dan Kansas. Here we go, gentlemen. 176 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: So let's get into the Week six scheduled, real, the 177 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: the guts of it. And why don't we start, as 178 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: we always do, with three games that jump out to us, 179 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: that that excite us, that makes us feel like men. 180 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: So let's go. Let's go up to the Clink century 181 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: clink Field, century Link Field, whatever it's called. The Seattle 182 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks three and one, coming off a home win, excuse me, 183 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: a road win over the Washington Redskins. Now invite the 184 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys into their house. The Dallas Cowboys at four 185 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: and one, uh playing these three and one Seahawks. Really, 186 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: if if people aren't convinced about the Cowboys, and we 187 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: have every right to not be convinced about the Cowboys 188 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: given their track record. Uh, they can make a lot 189 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: of make a lot of believers by putting up a 190 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: really good effort or even knocking off the Seahawks. Is 191 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: there any way that happens? No, Sessler was saying he 192 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: had Well, I'm not saying it's logical, and you could 193 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: you could look a million ways at this game and 194 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: say it's not possible. But I have this strange sensation 195 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: that the Dallas Cowboys are going to go up to 196 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: Seattle and do what other teams cannot do. And it's 197 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I look at that. I'll tell you why I think there. 198 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: It's there. But that's because because because of the corporate 199 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, eyes staring down on us, and this many 200 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: schedules we adhere to. I had to make my picks 201 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: on like an early on a wednch. So you're allowed, 202 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: you can change it, go with it. Let's see if 203 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I do. I just might call your bluff. May do 204 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: that when I get down airs and get onto a 205 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: laptop that functions, I will do that. This is just 206 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: a prop this there's nothing on this thing that's a 207 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: lie also, but I can't get into it. I agree 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: with you. I said on Wednesday's podcast, I thought this 209 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be a close game. I will go that far. 210 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are just by far the best 211 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. And Greg, I, I liked what 212 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: you said on Monday night. You tweeted that it's kind 213 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: of fun to have like a real a real favorite 214 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL, like a true defending champion that you 215 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: can really jokes like the next year the Seahawks. It's like, 216 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, you want the top guy to have to 217 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: knock them off. But this is what the Cowboys have 218 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: working for them. That great offensive line, to Marco Murray 219 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: running better than any anyone, Tony Romo back to his 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: old self. They're playing with a lot of confidence as 221 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: a team. I think they have the nobody believes in 222 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: this factor going into Seattle. I think it's a three 223 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: point game. Chris Westling complete whitewash blow outcoming. We talked 224 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: about this in the news room. The Seahawks are better, 225 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: and not just by a little bit now than they 226 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: were in the run up to the to the Super Bowl. 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: Ever since they got Percy Harvan back for the Super Bowl, 228 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: they've been a much better offense. Like heads and shoulders 229 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: above what their offense was last I don't think it matters. 230 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: The defense is close enough to what they were last 231 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: year that with Harvin out there, he makes Lynch better, 232 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: he makes Russell Wilson better. They're a lot more deceptive 233 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: and what they do not only are they deceptive, but 234 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: they're deceptive with their best players. Well, that is extremely logical, 235 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: and I can appreciate that, But what about the magic 236 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: of life. Sometimes things happen that fall outside of the 237 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: Wesleyan methodology. I have no I have no comeback to that, 238 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: because you're absolutely correct. Almost Seattle last year with Bobby Rainey, 239 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I believe running through them, the things happen Mike James. 240 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: But let's Mike James. That's right, But we'll no name 241 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: or that's who it was. But let's not get carried 242 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: away with these Cowboys. They haven't really looked like a 243 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: top ten type of team there four and one because 244 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: they've overachieved and their defense plays aggressive. Even if they're 245 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: not that talent, then they're a good running game. Like 246 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: let's see what's gonna happen when they fall down two 247 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: scores in Romo actually has to go deep instead of 248 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: thinking Duncan every play because they haven't been able to 249 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: do that this year. I'm more with West that it's 250 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: a blowout. I feel like once a year the last 251 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: couple of years, Seattle has been tested at home in 252 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: a game that you think they're gonna take care of business. 253 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: This is the game where I think it happens. But 254 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: we all, except for I was gonna say, we all 255 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: pick you're you're gonna let me make a donate a 256 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: free game to us, buddy boy, let's do it. I 257 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: agree the Seahawks will be tested at home this year, 258 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: but it won't be this week. They where they went 259 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: to overtime last week? That was it? All right? Moving forward? Uh, 260 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, coming off that crazy, wild comeback victory 261 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: over the Tennessee Titans, now play a game like a 262 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: real gut check game. They are going to be at 263 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: home in their building playing the Pittsburgh Steelers, their longtime rival. 264 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: I believe Mark correctly if I'm wrong, the Steelers are 265 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: twenty eight and two since against the Well Big Ben 266 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: is eighteen and too. That's really when I think the 267 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: pure domination kicked right. So now this is a big 268 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: chance to make a statement for the Browns, who who 269 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: are potentially near the same level as a team as 270 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: the Steelers, at least in their building. You would think 271 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: it could this would be a game they should win. 272 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: But will they I like, I like their chances. I 273 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: took them and it's you know, again, it's a little 274 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: bit of magic feeling. It's a fact that they're the 275 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: home team and they have a quarterback that's playing better 276 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: right now. Brian Hoyer is not, you know, a top 277 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: ten quarterback by any mean, but he's turning into this 278 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: year's Nick Foles and he's gotten better each and every week. 279 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: He pulled off a lot of tough passes in that 280 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee game. And this Steeler's defense has been disappointing this year. 281 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: They've given up a lot of points. I think the 282 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Browns will pass on them and I think they'll get 283 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: that win. The best in Cleveland has going for them 284 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: right now is their offensive line. You know, they've had 285 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: talent on that line for a couple of years, but 286 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: there are always issues at the guards spot, and they've 287 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: they've got that thing locked down right now. Kyle Shanahan 288 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: said that no team has learned his zone blocking scheme 289 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: quicker than this group of this group of players. I 290 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: like that, but there are a lot of issues with Cleveland. 291 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: They can't stop the run, and Levy on Bell had 292 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: his way with Cleveland week one and every team since 293 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: has also done the same. So I am concerned about 294 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: the Browns not going back in and giving up another 295 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: twenty five points to start the thing. I like what 296 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: you said. Pro Football Focus has ranked the Browns is 297 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: the best offensive best offensive line in the NFL right now. 298 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: And Daniel Jeremiah compared Hoyer to Matt Hasselbeck on his podcast, 299 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I see him. I like that podcast. It's very good, 300 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: very strong. It's okay. I see it more like a 301 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Matt Shop type of situation, where in the Shanahan offense 302 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: it's all boot action and almost everything Howyer is doing 303 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: so well is based off the run game. That's great coaching. 304 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: You got to admit, though, when you saw Hoyer kind 305 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: of jam one of those passes in there last week, 306 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: clutch situation between a couple of defenders and pressure in 307 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: his face that you know there's a little bit of 308 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: touchdown to Benjamin was very impressive. You got it. There's 309 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: a little to Chris Wesley, and that's you know he's 310 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: starting is you know he's starting to fall for Brian 311 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: higher West. I'm holding holding in my hands the NFL 312 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: media research notes you enjoy. Here's a note Ben Roethlisberger's 313 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: eighteen in one record against the Browns translates to the 314 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: highest winning percesage of any starting QB against a single 315 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: opponent since nineteen fifty Number two Roger Staubach sixteen and 316 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: one against some terrible Giants teams. We didn't need the 317 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: book because Sessler already made that actual back then it 318 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: was eighteen and two. So at least we corrected it, 319 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: got it right. I think maybe what I did was 320 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: just make a correct prediction. And uh, you know this 321 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: week also the number three most dominant QB versus a 322 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: team combo in NFL history are going to be playing 323 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: up in Buffalo. Tom Brady two and two, I believe 324 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: versus West. My notes tell me nine seventeen is the 325 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: winning percentage of I don't know how we could do 326 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: the podcast without that tidbit. Listen, that is how we operate. 327 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Anything else to say about this, so we This is 328 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: what would make me the most nervous if I'm a 329 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Browns fan. It is actually a game between the Browns 330 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and Steelers, and three of the five of us have 331 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: picked the Browns, and that A. West and Kevin Patrick 332 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: took the Steelers. The Steelers are actually small underdogs in 333 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: this game. Yes, I am continuing to needle Mark Sessler 334 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: as you would put it there. All right, fair enough, 335 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: let's move on. Finally, the New York Giants coming off 336 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: is a three straight wins now and they had to 337 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia to play the genius. I will I will be looking. 338 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I'll be pouring through that in a moment. The Philadelphia Eagles. 339 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Uh so, we got a big NFC e showdown right now. 340 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: The Eagles are in first place, or not in first 341 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: place in the division, but they have a I think 342 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought they would be the favorite 343 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: in this division and now it seems a lot more 344 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: wide open. We talked about it on Wednesday's show that West. 345 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I think you said you believe the Giants are the 346 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: favorite to win this division. So do you think the 347 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Giants take care of business on on the road against Philly? 348 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I do. I think They're a more complete, solid, better 349 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: team than the Eagles right now, So I don't I 350 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: don't care where they're playing I think the Giants will win. 351 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: This is another game that I don't like the pick 352 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I made twenty four hours ago. I'm a new human 353 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: being right now, and I don't like any of the 354 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: picks I made UH from a day ago there because 355 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: you get any New York's UH defense this season two 356 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: on some level. And I don't like what's going on 357 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: with Philadelphia's offensive line. It's been an absolute disaster. But 358 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: they do keep finding ways to win a third at home. 359 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: That's why I went with them. Asked Jake Matthews about 360 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul clown suits, clown suits all throughout the 361 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: second you get him on the phone, get the Jake 362 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: Matthews on the phone asking about the clown suit that 363 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: JPP put on, and forget about JP p well, and 364 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: don't forget about him. He's been good in a key 365 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: part of them turning around. But how about Jonathan Hankins. 366 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: That guy's killing it every week, coming out of nowhere. 367 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Second year player for the Giants, and it's starting to 368 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: remind you a little bit of those defensive lines that 369 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: they had a couple of years ago, where they have 370 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: talent all over the place. Key Nuka is playing fairly well. 371 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Former Bronco Robert Ayers is playing pretty Yeah, he seems 372 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: to make a player to each week. And Hankins is 373 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: a second year player. Just throw what is five games 374 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: for them. He's played like a pro bowler. I mean, 375 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: he's been that good where he's been one of the 376 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: best interior players in the league. And every time this 377 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: team has made a playoff Rount, it's been with strong 378 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: play from Eli whether or not you like him or not, 379 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: and good defensive line play. And we're getting at this 380 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: point in the season, we're getting both. I think this 381 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: is the best stretch of play that Eli Manning has 382 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: had since two thousand eleven. I don't even think it's close. No, 383 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to either. And and it's 384 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: almost as if like Nick Foles and Eli Manning have 385 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: switched bodies now because Foles is now throwing the wildly. 386 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: That would be a movie I would not want to see. Yeah, 387 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: it's not a good situation for Nick Foles, so that 388 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: when I want to watch the Eagles this weekend, you 389 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: want to see what's going on. It would be a 390 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: great movie. Um, they made those movies forever where you 391 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: would just switch This is the Kirk Cameron Dudley Moore one, Yeah, sorry, yeah, no, 392 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: it's okay. This was that was much more interesting but 393 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: whatever I was thinking of. But no, I'd be interested 394 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: to see Folds again week after week. You wait to 395 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: see if he kind of returns to form. Hasn't happened yet. 396 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: In Lashawn McCoy the leads over, Dan is an NFC 397 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: East absolute fanatic, dating back to your early child. This 398 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: is a fever dream for you to have three teams 399 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: with winning records in a division people left for dead 400 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: in August. I think the I think what's misunderstood here 401 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: is that I enjoy the NFC East growing up in 402 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: that area, but everyone else that I work with hates 403 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: the NFC. So it makes it seem like I like 404 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the more with a white hot passion. Yeah, so it's 405 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: like I think it's a little misconstrued. But yes, I 406 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: always liked that. I loved it. I've said it on 407 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: the podcast. Before Sunday mornings, going to my grandparents house 408 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: and there's old Poppy sitting on his brown couch watching 409 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: the Giants, drinking roop here and like yelling at the 410 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: TV at Phil Simms and Parcels. Those were good Days, 411 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: Slice of America, Honnor, right there, it certainly is all right. 412 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: Let's move on. It's time to talk as we do 413 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: this this portion, Mark, because you said your new man, 414 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any memory of the past. 415 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just disenchanted with my choices from yesterday. Wait, so 416 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: who did you choose in the Giants Eagles? Anyway, I'll 417 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell you who he chose. Mark chose. 418 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: I took the Giants, knows I don't like that. No, 419 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: I took the g Man. Patrick took the Eagles. So 420 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: we're split. As I think this is the best late 421 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: of games in terms of tough games to pick that 422 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: we've had out. I would agree with that it was 423 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: a tough one. So this is the time of the show, gentlemen, 424 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: where we defend our heroes. And I'm upset because for 425 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: the second straight week, I have no hero to defend. 426 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: You guys blocked me, and I did. I've gotten heat 427 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: on Twitter for not having hero picks lined up this week, 428 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: but and I try to tell people, we can't control 429 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: getting a hero pick. You don't make your pick and 430 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: then hopefully no one else picks that team. So I've 431 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: had luck in two weeks where I've had a bunch 432 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: of that like that, and some have worked out. But 433 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: I've had now four weeks where I got no hero pick. 434 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: If I haven't figured out the way it works by now, 435 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: they're beyond hope. By the way I did right here 436 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: in the studio. Well, well you did in this case. Yeah. 437 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I basically said I want to switch my pick into 438 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: a hero pick, and everyone just said, yes, please do whatever, 439 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: you go for it. We suckered you into one, just 440 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: like I suckered Rosie into one downstairs. All right, So 441 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: let's start with Greg. Greg had to here, So why 442 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: don't we talk about that one? Because, uh, because I 443 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: got him on the hooks. The Washington Redskins heading to 444 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: Arizona to face the Cardinals. The rest of the A 445 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: t L team believes the Cardinals will take care of business. 446 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: Perhaps I know we might. We have we do our 447 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: picks just to let you behind the curtain. We're allowed 448 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: to change, and if there's some quarterback change going on, 449 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: this is certainly the case with the Cardinals right now. 450 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. We don't know what's going on with him 451 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: and his firing nerve, and we don't know if Drew 452 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Stanton is gonna be able to play because he is 453 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: the concussion. Logan Thomas took first team reps on Thursday, 454 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: so this seems to be heading towards a Logan time prediction. 455 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Neither of Greg's hero picks will be hero picks by 456 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: the end. Greg, you have a hero pick on the Redskins, 457 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: So defend your hero. Defend your hero. Defend your hero here. Well, look, 458 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what you guys do earlier 459 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: in the week, but part of my job is to 460 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: kind of check out the news of what's going on 461 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: around the NFL. It's part of our name and everything. 462 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: And you check out the news and I and I 463 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: looked that I saw Carson Palmer is trying to do 464 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: crazy methods to refire a nerve in his arm, and 465 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Drew Stanton at a concussion last week, and I thought, well, 466 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: it might not be great to start the rookie projects 467 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: sixth round pick that's one for ten last week in Denver, 468 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: and that the Washington Redskins aren't quite as bad a 469 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: team as they've been, and that they can go get 470 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: a win on the road. It's not gonna be some 471 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: crazy upset to do that, you know, this week, I 472 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: looked at the protocol you set that says we can 473 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: change our picks based on the quarterback later in the week, 474 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: So I thought I'd just pick a sub team in 475 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: there for now, and the flexibility and versatility I consider that, 476 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: But I also thought, all right, how great is Carson 477 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Palmer gonna be right now coming off of a month off? 478 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: And how about this Cardinals team with so many injuries, 479 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: including Claus Campbell and Matt Shaughnessy. A lot of their 480 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: injuries have been at the same position. Patrick Peterson isn't 481 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: a percent. I just think they're at the point where 482 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: they've had so many injuries they're no longer that great 483 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: a team that match shaughnessy injury is. That's doesn't he right? 484 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: For the Boston Globe? Is it possible that this might 485 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: actually swing all the way back around because I ain't 486 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: switching my pick and old Danny boy gets a hero 487 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: pick out of this. I think Greg, if he wanted 488 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: to approach this segment more effectively, would have convinced us 489 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: why he had made a mistake, so that we would 490 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: have all stuck with Arizona and kept You can vinced 491 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: me Greg to switch my pick over to your Washington rinch. Well, 492 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: I know, between the three of you, and I'm including 493 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Kevin patra our distaste for Kansas is honking and press 494 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: conferences about all his heroes will prevent one of you guys. 495 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: You'll just take one for the team and not change 496 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: your So why don't you be that guy? I can't 497 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: do that, Dad. You don't even understand what you're talking about. 498 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: Right now, I picked the card It would really be 499 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: that crazy. By the way, I don't think the Redskins 500 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: are that bad at a team. You guys seem that 501 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: you guys kind of liked them a couple of weeks ago, 502 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: and now you're just totally in the league. Is gonna 503 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: be eight and eight when the season's over, That's what 504 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't think the Cardinals are 505 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: that much better than the Redskins. I agree with you, 506 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: but they do play well at home. The Baltimore Ravens 507 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: are heading to Tampa to face the Buccaneers. Um the 508 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 1: rest of us, we all thought the Baltimore Ravens were 509 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: gonna take care of business. But Mark Sessler he feels differently. 510 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Mark believes and He's looking at me right now like 511 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: he cannot believe he made this pick. But that's exactly 512 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: you pick. You're in on Mike Lennon, You're in on 513 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: You're in on Doug Martin getting it together. You're excited 514 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: about the Bucks. Tell us why I defend your hero 515 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: that I must have just pressed the incorrect button on 516 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: this utown. We gonna are we gonna just have to 517 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: have Mark sit out the Thursday night shows. There's something 518 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta come because I had 519 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: a few things swung differently. Last week. We'd be talking 520 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: about a team that just knocked off the Steelers and 521 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: Saints and back to back weeks on the road, on 522 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: the road. Now they come home and the Baltimore Ravens 523 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: better team than they were last year on a lot 524 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: of fronts. I'm impressed with the Ravens and what they're 525 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: done with their offense, but I do think this is 526 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those weird games that Tampa. Mike 527 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Lennon has helped that offense a lot when they in 528 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: account in there and you can see Hi accounties and 529 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: fully healthy. Whatever you want to say, that offensive line 530 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a whole lot better. But they are moving 531 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: the ball with Glennon and and that is the only 532 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: reason I look at Tampa as a potential win. Here. 533 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Let's yeah, I um. I was charged with covering both 534 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: of Glennan's games the past two weeks. Didn't move the 535 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: ball at all in the first half against the Steelers, 536 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: didn't move the ball for the first at least quarter 537 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: and a half against the Saints. He struggles a lot, 538 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's a little overblown how well he's 539 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: played overall. I don't trust he makes some fancy passes though, 540 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: where he's back at up and he just whips it out. 541 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: There's a lot of three announce well, Wesley, you make 542 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: a good point. It's not that he again, this is 543 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: a guy that is a project quarterback. They're still developing 544 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: him and he's not gonna be consistent the way when 545 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: you look across the field at Big Ben and Drew 546 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Brees necessarily, but he seems to get hot. He is 547 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: a little streaky. The whole offense, the whole team is streaky. 548 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: I again, I don't want me do these heroes. It's 549 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: not all pure logic and mathematical equations. I'm just saying 550 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Tampa is gonna do something. Who would have picked him 551 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: to beat the Steelers two weeks ago or take the 552 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: Saints down to the final few minutes. Yeah, sometimes you 553 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: look at the breadth of the season. I mean, that's 554 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: kind of one of the reasons I picked the Redskins. 555 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Just like that team, you can kind of look at 556 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: what how they how their whole season is gonna go. 557 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: They don't really look like a one in five team. 558 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Maybe the Bucks after the last couple of weeks, they're 559 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: they're a better team than the record indicates. I'm home. 560 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm still ready to forcome. I do it right now. 561 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: Really again, I also do not remember picking them, so 562 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing the second. Yeah, you did a good great 563 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: if this was a bit, but you can tell by 564 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: the look at Mark's eyes when Dan's first brought it 565 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: up that he really had no idea it was. I 566 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: thought that maybe something was wrong. At first, I was like, Oh, 567 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: he just doesn't realize what he's about to have to do. 568 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. Moving forward, I think Greg, you you 569 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: usually are a little more locked in on on your pick. 570 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say you know that you took the 571 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: Jaguars to get the first win of the season on 572 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: the road against the Tycoons, who you must imagine are 573 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: in the tank after blowing three lead over the Browns, 574 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: and now you believe the Jaguars will come in and 575 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: build on that. Dan One thing that's the that the 576 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Titans Tennessee Titans one of the thirty two teams in 577 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. In the Actually I like that name. Good job, 578 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: you just lost their last Titans fans that still listened 579 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: to the show. If they don't have fans, he's got, 580 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, as come on, they got fans that I 581 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe after last week that that number could 582 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: have crept down. Quit. What do the Titans do well? 583 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: They don't do anything well, Jake Locker is. I'll tell 584 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: you what they do well. When his third nine, they 585 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: do a really good job of throwing a third and 586 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: four pass right right exactly. This is a team that 587 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: lost at home by you know, sixteen points of the Cowboys. 588 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: They got blown out in Cincinnati and Indianapolis. I think 589 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is obviously the best quarterback of this game. 590 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Jake Locker might not be starting. I just think the 591 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars aren't a o N sixteen type of team. If 592 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna win a game, this is the week to 593 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: do it. As wesleyan uh Stuteley pointed out earlier, with 594 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Jake Locker looking like he's not a go when we 595 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: made our picks, you know, seventy eight hours ago and 596 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: it was up in the air, it looks like if 597 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: if white Hurst is literally well, this is another area 598 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: where we could switch right out over to the Blake 599 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Bortles express. No, no quarterback has had me seething as 600 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: much as Charlie white Hurst did against the Browns since 601 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell threw fifty checkdowns against the Bengals last year. 602 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: It's funny. I was going to bring that up, like, 603 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: if I ever wanted to really get back at Wesselene, 604 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: if he did something to me, all I would do 605 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: is just throw a bunch of checkdown passes in front 606 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: of him, because that's what really west going. Whitehurst ended 607 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: four second hit possessions in a row by throwing short 608 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: of the sticks on third down. Could we just let's 609 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: say this goes ugly. Could we see Mettenberger in this game? Absolutely? Yeah. 610 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: I That's why I'm starting to feel grim right now, 611 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: because I just realized that I did cut pick Charlie 612 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: white Hurst to win a game, like start a game 613 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: and being there and then win it. You picked Jake 614 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: Locker to win when if he doesn't play, you can 615 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: switch that picked in. Here's what Charlie Whitehurst has joined 616 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: a person. When you watch him play, you're thinking, why 617 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: can't this guy play more like Austin Davis. That's scary territory. 618 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: I think I had about a lot of people I 619 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: wish I could play like Austin Davis. He's been pretty 620 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: good money alkright, So we have those are the hero picks. Uh, 621 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: and Uh, let's get to the rest of the games, 622 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: because got got a lot of good ones. We'll start. 623 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: Why don't we start in Minnesota? Teddy Bridgewater, he's gonna 624 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: be back. He's been full practice this week, he says 625 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: he's and now he gets a chance to play the 626 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Uh, there should be a very I think 627 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: a competitive matchup. One guy that I really I'm interested in, Uh, 628 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: Cordurell Patterson, who they cannot seem to get going now 629 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: after he came into the season with all that hype, 630 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: started off well, disappeared from the offense. Do you think 631 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna start seeing him get back back on track. 632 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: I know there. We did it around the NFL post 633 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: today about they're going to make a concerned effort. Is 634 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: it gonna happen? That's a good question. I think he's 635 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: the kind of guy they you kind of have to 636 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: treat him like the Seahawks treat Harvin and get the 637 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: ball in his hands on end around jet sweeps, uh 638 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: screen passes, crossers, and it's bizarre that they haven't done that. 639 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: It's almost like Norv Turner has gotten a little too 640 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: cute because Okay, you're out in the opening, you're gonna 641 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: use in that way in week one and a month's past, 642 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: we haven't seen it. Since this is a team that's 643 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: changed so much from last season. That's such a youth movement. 644 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: If you got Teddy in there at quarterback, you've got 645 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Corderiol as your number one ride receiver in theory, and 646 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: you've got Jerick McKinnon in the backfield, it's like, why 647 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: not just make sure that Corderil gets the ball. Norv 648 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: Turner did that last year with Josh Gordon. Well, some 649 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: of it's on Patterson too, because he doesn't get open 650 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: when he's just going out for the regular sort of 651 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver route tree. From by all accounts, he's not 652 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: getting open. He's not really too polished as a route runner, 653 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: so yes, you have to be creative and getting him 654 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: the ball in other ways. But part of it is 655 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: also because he's not that developed as a white I mean, 656 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: are they learning that he's not the X wide receiver 657 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: they thought he'd be. I think it's more about the 658 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: word route runner, which we use Jenn. People think it's 659 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: just going out and running the right route. Route running 660 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: also means reading the defense before the snap and being 661 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: on the same page as your quarterback because their option 662 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: routes and you have to know whether to break in 663 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: or break out, or go deep or stay in. And 664 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: if he's not on the same page with his quarterback, 665 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: that's probably what's and they've had were famous for that, 666 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: their ability to kind of read each other's mind. And 667 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: they haven't had the same quarterback back to back week's 668 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: all season, so it's kind of hard quarterback. It's kind 669 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: of hard to kill any of this offense for any 670 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: lack rhythm because it changes. The running backs change every week. 671 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: Peterson is not there. It's like band Ponder last week 672 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I will say this too, Greg, Patra and West All 673 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: picked the Lions of this game. And I know we're 674 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: talking up Golden Tate and he deserves that. He's playing 675 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: very well, but Calvin Johnson is probably not playing in 676 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: this game. And if he is, he's again going to 677 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: be a decoy type of guy. But expect him not 678 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: to play. That's still a huge loss for this team, 679 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Golden Tate or not, it is. I think the Lions 680 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: are a top six team in the NFL with Calvin Johnson, 681 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: and everybody would see him that way. If they had 682 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: a kicker this year, they would be seeing unanimously as 683 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: a top six team. They have the number one defense 684 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: and Football Outsiders Metrics this year, pacing the whole league. 685 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: And I think I mean, ask Aaron Rodgers how good 686 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: their defense is, or Eli Manning or anyone else they 687 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: beat this year. Theyre they have a really good defense. 688 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Kevin Johnson is a big 689 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: difference making type of player. And we don't know about 690 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: the running backs either. Bush and Bell are both banged up. 691 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: There's a potential they both play. There's a potential they 692 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: both and that's why this This was the single toughest 693 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: game for me to pick on the schedule, and I 694 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: guess it makes sense then that we were split three 695 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: two on it. But I think when Minnesota wins this 696 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: game and Teddy Bridgewater does what he does, they're in 697 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: they're constructing that stadium with that stale dome on top 698 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: of it, They're going to realize, we have to be 699 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: an outdoor football team. Stop in Minnesota. You've built enough. 700 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Let that air, let that open air, and that's snow 701 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: come flowing in. Come to forget about the super Bowl coming. 702 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: We'll cancel that. We don't need super Ball, all right. 703 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: And that was anti dome talk with Chris and Mark. 704 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: We gotta get that sponsored. Moving forward, the Miami Dolphins 705 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: coming off a bye week and that win in London 706 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: in which Greg's boy Ryan Tannehill got back on track. 707 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: Now they welcome the Green Bay Packers at three and two, 708 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: and the Packers might be the best three and two 709 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. They're looking great now we picked 710 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: the Packers across the board. Is this gonna be a 711 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: close game? I think it's a I think it's a 712 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: more dangerous game than most people think, just because the 713 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Dolphins front is better than the last couple of defense 714 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: is Green Bay's face and could disrupt their timing. I 715 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: think one thing, you know, it looks like no Sean 716 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: Marino looks like he will play correct. I think that's 717 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: what we're hearing. He's practiced and stuff. I like what 718 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: we saw in week one when when Bill Laser had 719 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: his full complement of running backs. I think Lamar Miller 720 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: is not an every down guy. And even when O'shean 721 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: was not in the lineup, they didn't use Millers an 722 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: every down guy, And I want to see what they 723 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: can do, uh with the full compliment of runners in 724 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: the backfield. Yes, all right, I got by the way, 725 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: I have some more research notes or something. You're gonna 726 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: like this one, U Joe Filman. Here we go. No. 727 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill average eight point nine seven yards for attempt 728 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. That was the fourth highest total of 729 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: his career. Before that, he had been averaging five point 730 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: oh three, which is the Gabbard zone. So perhaps the 731 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: Dolphins are learning they need to open up this offense, 732 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: push the ball downfield, and they'll score some points. I 733 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: remember on this very podcast the night of that game, 734 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: one of us who got who got charged with covering 735 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: that game pointed out it was one of the best 736 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: stats of one of the best starts of Tannehill's career, 737 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: so he probably didn't need research notes to tell us that. Listen, 738 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: I just gave you numbers, Okay, man, there's no arguing 739 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: against the book. The book and the numbers tell you 740 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: that he was pushing the ball down field, which they 741 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: hadn't been doing at all. Yeah. Um, I would say, 742 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: is clicked in? Is Aaron Rodgers is right now? I 743 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: think at Seattle is the only way I would pick 744 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: against the Packers this week. Wow, that surprises me that 745 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: you're just I guess. I mean, I know they've had 746 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: two really impressive games against Chicago. How many Consota but 747 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: on a shore. How many great teams in the NFL 748 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: are there right now? I don't know if the Packers 749 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: are one of them, though? Are they? I mean, are 750 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: they a top five team already? Just because they can 751 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: destroy a week their third and your beloved football Outsiders 752 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: d v O A. Mark, I'm surprised that Bill Laser 753 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: versus Dom Capers, and yet you did you went with 754 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, I mean, I you what Chris just 755 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: said is accurate. I mean, when when Aaron Rodgers is 756 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: on fire, I'm not gonna I'll wait for him to 757 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: to to completely die out on the field before I 758 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: I I'm not going to pick against the Packers in 759 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the situation until I see in trouble. What if the 760 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: Dolphins as a full team showed us in a couple 761 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: weeks not a whole lot. By the way, is there 762 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: is there a coach you know how they always talk 763 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: up like, oh, this coach, you know he knows his 764 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: old team, well, you know, so he's gonna know how 765 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: to attack the Packers. Is there a coach in the 766 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: NFL that you would be less scared of knowing your 767 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: team than Joe Filbin, Joe Filban, Like I don't know, 768 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. It always I always don't ever think of 769 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: I have to work on the Packers this week. Boys 770 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: like I always think about Joe Filman on hard knocks, 771 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: walking around making sure everyone's shoelaces were tied properly and 772 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: picking up gum on the field, And immediately you just 773 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: knew this guy was not the next Belag I liked 774 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: at the combine. He's one of the last adults that 775 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: I've seen in many years that just wandered down the 776 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: hallway just in a just big white turtleneck, nothing else. 777 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: What I'm just saying from the top, it's like he 778 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: looks like at he looks like an IBM man on 779 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: vacation or something. There's also the stories that at training 780 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: camp he does the bed check for all the players everything. 781 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: You remember that one that they had to get used 782 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: to that be like, oh hey, heye, coach Philman coming 783 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: into you know, usually they have some you know, eighteen 784 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: year old intern do that. But okay, Uh, moving on, 785 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos are starting to hit their stride offensively. 786 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: They really, uh they went nuts this past week. Now 787 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: they get to travel to the Meadowlands to face my Jets, 788 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: who are on a four game losing streak and appears 789 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: that they appear to be crumbling from within, with major 790 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: quarterback problems and the typical off the field shenanigans that 791 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: mark almost every Jet meltdown season. We all picked the Broncos, 792 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: and I can't really even me, the Jet fan, It's 793 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: hard for me to make a case that the Jets 794 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: are going to deliver a good effort here. I don't. 795 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: This is almost the worst team they could have faced 796 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: in this spot with their issues with their secondary and 797 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: their inability to score points. Right now, Uh, this is 798 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: not going to be a very close game. I don't 799 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: think I was concerned when they had a couple of 800 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: players on defense publicly say we're not practice. Seemed like 801 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: a championship team, which is a little unusual for I 802 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: think Rex Ryan has always had the buying of like 803 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: his roster, they love the guy. It's like just stuff 804 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: starting to creep out. That concerns me a little bit 805 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: about that. That was a little disconcerting. But what really 806 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: annoyed me was the Michael Vick thing where Michael Vick 807 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: came out and said that he wasn't prepared to go 808 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: into the game, which boggles my mind when on a 809 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: number of levels. First of all, we knew Geno Smith 810 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: was on the ropes going into that game on Sunday 811 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, So he couldn't have thought that he 812 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: was easily just gonna sit on the bench. Number two 813 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: to even admit that, and just to think you think 814 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: that maybe he's a little savvy having played in Philly 815 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: and been in the league this long and I've been 816 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: in New York. When you say something like that, it 817 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: leaves you wide open to just be doubted, and it's 818 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: faced the same questions over and over again, and everybody 819 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: just thinks you're a joke. And they didn't even look 820 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: like he wanted to be on the field against the 821 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: Chargers anyway. So I could not be more out on 822 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: the Michael Vick era in New York right now. This 823 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: week officially ends the Michael Vick era as a starter 824 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, I mean think back to August 825 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: when Jenny Brentis for the mm KB had that report 826 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: that some Jets coaches didn't love the fact that Vic 827 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: didn't really fight for the starting job. Can see that, right, 828 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: you can totally see it. And there was even a 829 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: mention this week. I believe that he he didn't mind that, uh, 830 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: that Sims was getting a little extra a few extra 831 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: snaps in practice for for real. And it's like, you know, 832 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: there's there is a point that it makes sense, don't 833 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: you immediately go back to the uh, the Bill Belichick 834 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: scene where Wes Welker says, I let the other guy 835 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: do punt returns. Belichick has way to compete with Right, 836 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: that's true, But it's like starting at quarterback in the 837 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: NFL's heart, especially for the Jets. So it's not the 838 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. Page I could be a backup. 839 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: It is a death knel for for this team, because 840 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, the whole point of bringing vic In, if 841 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: you really did believe in Geno Smith, was to have 842 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: someone to show a young quarterback how to go through 843 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: the week, how to prepare, how to live that life. 844 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: Maybe that was the wrong veteran to bring in, but 845 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: even if that was your plan, I mean, he couldn't 846 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: be handling those responsibilities any worse. And it brings into 847 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: focus when he wasn't playing ball during the off season, 848 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: where things when he's talking about it wasn't a true 849 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: battle and all that stuff, Like he's kind of been 850 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: checked out this whole season. I don't think he really 851 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: cares what he says or how he's construed. He just 852 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: got his five million dollars or whatever it is. Whatever. Anyway, 853 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: we all picked the Broncos. This is the spot, uh 854 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: that the rex Ryant Jets over the years would play. Well. 855 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: It's a very good call. I could see the crowd 856 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: being into it initially, but I don't know, I just 857 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: don't I feel like they're not gonna be. They're just 858 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: overmatched and so well. One thing to Marius Thomas, the 859 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: one we saw last week versus the Jets secondary we 860 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: saw last week. That concerns me too. It's not just 861 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: on offense. And Julius Thomas has more touchdowns through five 862 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: weeks than any tight end in history. I believe. Wow, 863 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: uh TD something to Yeah. I was going back to 864 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, as you guys said, just to back of 865 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: your point. Yes, I've had my post on this whole thing, 866 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: the whole the first time on the show. How's it going, 867 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: you know? But uh yeah, Michael Vick clearly from the start, 868 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: he's a guy who came into New York knowing the situation. 869 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: It was like, you know what, I'm just gonna I'm 870 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: just gonna get my money. I'm just gonna be I'm 871 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: gonna play the good teammate and when to support, you know, 872 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: get my money. He clearly was not prepared and has 873 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: been honest this whole time. It's pretty sad to see, 874 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: are you you you're a big guy right well, you 875 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: know it's fun to watch, that's for sure, and the 876 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: guy was athletic ability to be nice to see him 877 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: go out there and play. But if you if you're 878 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: not getting ready to West. His point, no coach is 879 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: going to won a quarterback who admits that, Hey, going 880 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: into a game, I was not ready to play. That's 881 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: a big part of my point. The other part of 882 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: my point is I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't 883 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: have the same athletic ability. Definitely. I mean he was 884 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: an elite athlete back then. He has some of it now. 885 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: But um, alright, moving forward, the New England Patriots are 886 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: heading to Buffalo Orchard Park to play the Bills. Is 887 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: a battle to three and two teams? Uh something? This 888 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: again to be excited about the game, and again this 889 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: we've been We're all very close in the standings. I 890 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: think four of us are within two games or three games. 891 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: West is right behind that. So this is a week 892 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: where we're all over the place with different picks. Were 893 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: split here again, Uh, Gregg and myself both took the Pats. Yeah, 894 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: but the rest of the fellas took the Bills. So 895 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: I'll throw it to the mailman. Uh, Mr mailman, why 896 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: did you decide that the Bills were gonna get it done? 897 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: You're picking Kyle Orton two Outsmart Bill Bell checking up 898 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: big spot. You heard how excited Greg was to be 899 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: picking this game, But that belies his true feelings. If 900 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't mandated by his own uh rooting interest, yeah, 901 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: his own dogma here, he would be picking the Bills. 902 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: I firmly believe that because he knows that the Bills 903 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: in Buffalo are a bad matchup and that their defense 904 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: has been on fire. It's a good point. And you 905 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: got you know, New England had success running the ball 906 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati last week, and that was at home. Now 907 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: they're on the road against a very good run defense. 908 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: West is right that I have a huge amount of 909 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: respect and love. I would probably take the Bills at 910 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: home versus just about anyone right now because I think 911 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: that defensive line is the best in the league. And 912 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: it's amazing how one or two of those guys can 913 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: take over any games. Some some weeks it's Kyle Williams 914 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: and Mario Williams. Last week it was Marcel Darius and 915 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes having an unbelievable game, one of the best 916 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: games I've seen. And between those four guys against the 917 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: Patriots offensive line, Like I know, Patriots fans are excited 918 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: that they seem to solve things last week, but this 919 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: will be as big a test as possible for we. 920 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a little bit of you know, 921 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: last week, New England goes out and takes care of 922 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: the Bengals, which historically under Andy Dalton don't get the 923 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: job done on prime time and they don't get the 924 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: job done on the road. That's not a shock and 925 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: so now it's oh, we don't have to worry about 926 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: New England. They're back to where they've always been. There's 927 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: too many signs that suggests that's just not true. I 928 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: found to your point. I found it interesting the level 929 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: or maybe the deepness in the terms of a sigh 930 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: of relief. There was both from the entire New England 931 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: fan base in the media that was kind of keying 932 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 1: in on whether this is in the end, from Tom Brady, 933 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: even Brady Well, Greg Rosenthal off course, and even Brady himself, 934 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: who on his Facebook account had this line which I 935 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: thought was really interesting considering it was a game in October. 936 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: He said, thanks to all the fans for the support 937 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: tonight and night. I'll never forget. Let's keep it going 938 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. And night. I'll never 939 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: forget like this. That game meant a lot to the 940 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: to them, so now we get to see whether this 941 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 1: is building up. It's also an insane picture. I also 942 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: don't believe that he has any idea what's going up 943 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: on this Facebook account sending all these links, these cute 944 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: sort of lakes. Yah. I'm sure Tom Brady's up doing, 945 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: you know, like photo shop at twelve thirty at night. 946 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady knows that someone wrote it. I think the 947 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: eighteen year old intern that was supposed to be checking 948 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: beds for Joe Philbin is now operating Tom Brady a 949 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: lot of interesting jobs, very cynical people. But my point 950 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: being is that that was obviously a big turning point season. 951 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: Now we'll carry over that's something that will be very interesting. 952 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: But they could lose this week seventeen, and I still 953 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: think they might be quote unquote back, and they could be. 954 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: They could lose and be just fine going forward from 955 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: the Bill's side, because you know, we're focusing on on 956 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: New England. But this reminds me a lot of that 957 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland Pittsburgh matchup, where you've got this team in your 958 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: own division that's destroyed you week after week, year after year, 959 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: and you've never gotten past him. If you're the real 960 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: thing for the Bills, I understanding at call orton a quarterback, 961 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: you gotta win this game. The erstwhile team of a 962 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: t L. The Carolina Panthers have a big game this week. 963 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: They had to Cincinnati to face the Bengals. Cincinnati coming 964 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: off really that dreadful loss on a Sunday night to 965 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I was we were just talking about and 966 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady earnestly on his social media page spoke out 967 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: to the people and explained how he felt at that moment. 968 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: They're three and one now, the Panthers three and two, 969 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: kind of a hard team to figure out the entire around. 970 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: The NFL team picked the Bengals. Why can I just 971 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: say that I liked that erstwhile has become the word 972 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: of Dan Hansis. Yeah, I love That's a great word it. 973 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: Why did we pick the Bengals? Yeah? They never lose 974 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: at home unless it's the playoffs. Panthers have been an 975 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: erratic team even in their wins. You haven't left the gear, 976 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: at least the win against Chicago. I certainly didn't leave 977 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: it thinking, Okay, there's a team that's really got it 978 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: stuff together. I mean, they found a way to win 979 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: that game, but on the road, I don't think I 980 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: would take them against the Bengals, even if they were 981 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: in Carolina. I don't feel too good about the Bengals. 982 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: I feel like they know a Green by the way, 983 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: that's a big deal, and you know, I feel like 984 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: they can go into funks in the Stalton era that 985 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: could last a few weeks, and coming off a bad 986 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: Love Sun Sunday, it makes sense that this would be 987 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: the timing of the season where they could lose three 988 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: or four something like that and then get hot again. So, uh, 989 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: this is a pick that I'm already starting to have 990 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: some regret about. But yeah, what to Western's point, Like 991 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: you're you're riding that they're going to take care of 992 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: business at home, and they been among the best in 993 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: the league in their own building. I think Hugh Jackson 994 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: will do a better job with a non a J 995 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: Green offense than Jake Gruden would have in the old days. 996 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I don't, I mean I don't. 997 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: I think Jackson is a much better play caller than Gruden. 998 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: I think we all feel the way the way Bucky 999 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: books Bucky Brooks just slipped a lollipop into your pocket 1000 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: pattick you on the head. I talked about I talked 1001 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: about the mismatch in Buffalo, New England. I mean, Cincinnati's 1002 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: front line against this Carolina offensive line is a crazy mismatch. 1003 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: I think there's so many problems for this Panthers team 1004 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Cam Newton is playing 1005 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: really well and kind of holding the whole team up, 1006 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: but overall, I don't know if it's that good a 1007 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: team right now. The Oakland Raiders buried the ball. They 1008 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: did the buried the ball move with Tony Sperrano earlier 1009 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: this week. It was a kind of a bit of 1010 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: a cringe worthy video and West, I don't know if 1011 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: you know what the bury the ball means symbolically, because 1012 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: it's very heavy and deep. Do you know, hasn't it 1013 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: lost its meaning when you're the third or fourth person 1014 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: to do it? So basically said, the first four games 1015 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: of the season gone, you can bury it. And they 1016 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: handed out a shovel and then they buried up because 1017 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: now they're starting fresh. But unfortunately they start fresh against 1018 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the NFL, the San 1019 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: Diego Chargers who are playing grade who just embarrass the Jets? Who? Uh? Greg? 1020 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: I think you wrote in your QB index that the 1021 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: Charges now win games they're supposed to win, they don't 1022 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: have off games and Rivers is very consistent blowout correct. 1023 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: What if let me put it to you guys like this, 1024 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: what if we had a bad month of covering in 1025 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 1: the NFL just we're coming in. We weren't getting any 1026 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: more page views? Are articles were trite and type everywhere? 1027 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: And Greg said, all right, boys called us together and 1028 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: buries all of our laptops symbolically. What would be a 1029 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: reaction to Greg doing that? Can I get a MacBook? 1030 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: That was predictable? And I should have seen that coming. 1031 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: Now you'd laugh at him, right. I can imagine Charles 1032 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: Woodson watching this second like it really it's gonna be 1033 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: disturbing when Rex Ryan does this next week with the Jets. Well, Rex, 1034 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: I thought, you know a lot of people thought Rex 1035 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: was when it started this, But Rex actually in two 1036 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: thousand and ten took a page out of Belichick's playbook 1037 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: who did it back in two thousand one? So now 1038 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: Tony sprowno. It's the third time through It's like the 1039 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: back in the old audio tape nays where you just 1040 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: keep taping taping over with new songs and albums, and 1041 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: by the time you get to the third generation you 1042 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: can you could barely hear if there's no pop. There's 1043 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: no poping this ploy, this motivational ploy, would be like 1044 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: if they remade the Italian Job for the third time. 1045 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: Nobody's watching that, alright, Mark, you did take the charges, 1046 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: just so you know, I feel, yeah, that would be 1047 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: awful if we picked him as a team of eight 1048 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: only lost it. I mean, this is their first game 1049 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: as the official. Don't think that actually end this out. 1050 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: We wanted to give him a cookie right off the 1051 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: bat to like, continue to build a confidence. If you 1052 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: wanted to do that, we could have done it before 1053 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: they played the Jets. You, sir, are a monster. Moving forward, 1054 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears are heading to Atlanta the Georgia Dome, 1055 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: the Electric Georgia Dome. When you think about football and 1056 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: in the fall and the leaves turning colors, you think 1057 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: about inside that dome, on that turf. The Falcons are 1058 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: two and three, but obviously a much better team at home, 1059 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: and that's why we all got behind him, I would 1060 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: think they we all picked the Falcons to win this game. Mark, 1061 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: you picked them because you like them in their own building, 1062 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: would assume, well, I think, yeah, they're They're one of 1063 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: these four or five teams that when they're at home, 1064 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: they're all the problems. Like I picked them last week 1065 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: against the Giants. That was a disaster. They were head 1066 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: in the fourth, but I'm only concerned, I don't you 1067 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: don't you don't win the game and picks Gregg because 1068 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: they're ahead and the third. They're one of these teams 1069 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: though that it's kind of doesn't matter what happens outside 1070 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: of their building. When they come home to that overly 1071 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: still silent dome, they operate. It's just it's like some 1072 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, sixty people are taking a nap, and they 1073 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: operate in that quiet environment. They do what they need 1074 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: to do. This is a big game. I mean, two 1075 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: teams with good quarterbacks. That happened with a good quarterback, 1076 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: pretty good quarterbacks that half playoff aspirations both two and three. 1077 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: Be kind of surprising that one of these two teams 1078 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: is going to be two and four and digging out 1079 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 1: of a big hole, a Tony Sperano sized holes. Probably 1080 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: explained my Goldilocks Cutler reference from the early podcast. Dave 1081 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: Fleming from ESPN wrote a really good article saying that 1082 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: Cutler is like Goldilocks. Every year it's supposed to be 1083 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: his breakout year, but it's never just quite right. There's 1084 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: always an offensive line problem or a wide receiver problem, 1085 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: or a coaching problem, or an offensive line problem, or 1086 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: an injury or an injury. And once again this year 1087 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: this was the year breakout, coming All Pro season. No, 1088 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: does it? Does it finally end next year? Though? Like 1089 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: next August or so, We're not gonna be reading puff 1090 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: pieces about Jake Cutler anymore, right, I don't know. I'm 1091 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: not getting up on this team just because they're two 1092 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: and three. No, I think the shine might be off 1093 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: Trustman's offense a little bit after this season if they 1094 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: continue along this path to some degree, they have not 1095 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: been the same kind of electric, easy to watch offense 1096 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: that they were last season. Yeah, but you know why. 1097 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean he just wrote about that this morning. No, 1098 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean they're not healthy. Marshall basically said that Brandon 1099 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: Marshall said that he shouldn't have played the last lesser 1100 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: Man would not have played the last four games. Yeah, 1101 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: I hear that. And and Jeffrey had a hamstring injury earlier, 1102 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't himself for a while. But meanwhile, Martella's Ben 1103 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: is playing like a pro bowler. Isn't the real reason 1104 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be what we think they 1105 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: should be? Right back what you're saying it's because of 1106 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I just don't. I'd never trusted Jay Cutler 1107 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: to He can manage a big time, he can get hot, 1108 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: but he can also just blow games. And apologies to 1109 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: the Chicago and Carolina fans last Thursday, they waited for 1110 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: the preview of their game and it never came. Yeah, 1111 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: I put fall on the stor on that one. I 1112 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: missed it. And then you know, TD should have had 1113 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: my back and been like, damn, what about Chicago? Carolina 1114 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: didn't get the back taking taking people down with me? 1115 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: It is. We had it done and just didn't make 1116 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: it into the show. I don't know how I like that. 1117 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: I like that explanation a lot more, all right, which 1118 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: takes it so Yeah, sorry guys, that won't happen again 1119 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: probably well. Uh. The final game, the Monday night game, 1120 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: is the San Francisco forty Niners how many games are 1121 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: there this week? Eight thousand traveling to now? You want 1122 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: to talk Mausoleums St. Louis, Rams at the Edward Hunter 1123 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: James Dome, Uh, the one in three Rams. We all 1124 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: picked the Niners. Yeah, I don't think any of us 1125 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: are in love with the Niners necessarily what it Edward 1126 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: James almost him? Uh. We all have the Niners in 1127 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: this game. We don't probably will be competitive, but I'm 1128 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: not just gonna take care of business. Right. Well, we 1129 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: all picked them, including you, Mark. I mean, I think 1130 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: I think we all feel like the Niners have played 1131 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: better the last few weeks. And at the same time, 1132 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 1: I it is hard for me to pick the away 1133 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: to the away team in any prime time game. And 1134 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: the Rams in the last couple of years have had 1135 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: some sneaky interesting primetime games. And uh, am I wrong? 1136 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: Didn't they play the Seahawks tough on prime time last season? 1137 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: That really true time? The sacks four sacks I believe 1138 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson, and I still think the Ninos have 1139 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: pulled on. I fell asleep just thinking about the Rams. 1140 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: You know you did that, you did that big disappointments 1141 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: list this week. I missed Robert Quinn and and the 1142 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: Rams defense. That was what I was gonna say. Greg 1143 00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: Williams maybe, and Robert Quinn has done nothing this year. No, 1144 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: Chris Long that they've been a very poor operation upfront. 1145 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: I think they're lacking the league in sacks. With Greg 1146 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: Williams dialing up those blitzes, everyone thought they would be better. 1147 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: Their offense has played well enough to win win some games. 1148 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: There's somehow eighth in total yards, which is wild. In 1149 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: my defense, I missed the Rams on that list because 1150 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: they don't matter. Okay, Um, that's it. That's it. We 1151 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: go out on that note. We will be back on 1152 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: Sunday with the show that everyone gets excited about. It 1153 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: is the Sunday Recap Show. Uh so, enjoy all the 1154 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: football and uh, you know, stay safe. I feel like 1155 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: that's a fair thing to say, Yes, signing off, this 1156 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: is Dan ANSAs for the Sizzler, the Mailman, the Boss 1157 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: and t Date behind the Glass. Sending more tags Astac 1158 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: Money tag