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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club morning, everybody is d j n V just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club along the

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Speaker 3: roaster feeling And for Jess, we got a special guest

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Speaker 3: in the building.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, gentlemen. She's back, Miss Teslin figure Oh, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hello, are you feeling good morning? Good morning?

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Speaker 4: Good morning? Lord?

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling this?

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Speaker 4: Feeling good? I am, I'm really feeling good. It's good

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Speaker 4: to be back back with family. Chopped up. Which y'all

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Speaker 4: drop some dimes, named some names.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, here to get well.

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Speaker 4: We're dropping dimes on test, dropping downs on everybody from

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Speaker 4: top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: Let's start right off with the president presidential election. Why

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Speaker 2: did V P. Harris lose?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man, I should have rolled my white board that many yeah,

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Speaker 4: that many yeah. And the reason why it's important, I

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Speaker 4: literally have my stuff in order because a lot of

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Speaker 4: people MV said, you know, she lost because of this reason.

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Speaker 4: She lost because of that. And it's really in the Midwest.

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Speaker 4: The tornado requires water, humidity, when you know multiple things,

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Speaker 4: it's not one reason. And when I hear people saying,

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Speaker 4: you know, oh, if he just did better, with the

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Speaker 4: messaging or if they did better with the media. I've

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Speaker 4: really kind of put together a list of flowchart on

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Speaker 4: how basically a colossal fuck up from top to bottom.

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Speaker 4: So you're doing, yeah, we're doing optops, we're doing to

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Speaker 4: pull out tops. So if we just really take it

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Speaker 4: from the top, as we all said, Joe Biden should

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Speaker 4: have never ran. We have to first, you know, start there.

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Speaker 4: Should have never ran. He said it was a one time,

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Speaker 4: it was gonna be a one term president. We talked

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Speaker 4: about it multiple times. He actually volunteered that life to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm only going to run one term. I'm coming in

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Speaker 4: just to stop Trump immediately. Then they should have started

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Speaker 4: building a base immediately right out the gate. Trump was

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Speaker 4: still campaigning this entire time. We talked about it. We

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Speaker 4: talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing. You

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Speaker 4: and I talked about it on the Van Jones Show.

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Speaker 4: We're saying, you guys really have to continue the organizing

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Speaker 4: year round. And that's why I blame a lot of

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Speaker 4: the people at the top who have the ear of

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Speaker 4: the you know, of the candidates and Campaignton's because they've

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Speaker 4: been told this multiple multiple times so it should have

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Speaker 4: found a white man right then and there. Who was

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Speaker 4: going to be next in line to build a white man,

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Speaker 4: a white man, absolutely young white man, right then and there.

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Speaker 4: And it's not Governor Newso, by the way, a lot

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Speaker 4: of people keep saying that govern Newson will get swamped.

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Speaker 2: So did think Kamala was gonna win? No, right at

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Speaker 2: the game? No, no, no, question's a black woman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, so that that's number three. So let's first

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Speaker 4: get that. So they should have establish a bitch and

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Speaker 4: didn't do that. Governor knew somebody just want to put

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Speaker 4: that out there. A lot of people like him, great debater,

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Speaker 4: he would have got swamped. You have to remember he

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Speaker 4: literally passed to be O K through twelve to have

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Speaker 4: have did with that all over the nation, the homelessness

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Speaker 4: and all of that. So then, yes, number three, America

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Speaker 4: was not going to vote for a woman of color period.

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Speaker 4: And know, in the history of black women and white

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Speaker 4: just not gonna have you ever if a white woman

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Speaker 4: ever said you know what, I think you're more qualified,

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Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton. They were not going to give it to her.

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Speaker 4: I know there was hope. I know you talked about,

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Speaker 4: you know, believing in us, but it was never about

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Speaker 4: It's not about being qualified. This was when it came

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Speaker 5: I think Kamalot as a black woman is the only

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Speaker 5: read well first of all two things the last two elections,

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Speaker 5: the Democratic Party need to be thinking black women, right,

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Speaker 5: because if it wasn't for Jim Clyde Burn telling Joe Biden, hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're gonna

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Speaker 5: put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not

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Speaker 5: He went South Carolina and changed the complexion of his campaign.

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Speaker 5: If it wasn't for Kamala Harris in twenty twenty I

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Speaker 1: I didn' vote for Psident Biden. I voted Vice presid

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Speaker 5: I also think in twenty twenty four, when you look

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Speaker 5: at the fact that Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like

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Speaker 5: completely dead in the water, and Kamala Harris came to

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Speaker 5: the top of the ticket, raised all of this money,

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Speaker 5: ended up having the second most votes of any Democratic

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Speaker 1: I think that only happens because she's a black one.

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Speaker 4: Well, two things can be true at the same time.

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Speaker 4: There can be some positives that came with that, but

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Speaker 4: there also can be some negatives. Where we look at

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Speaker 4: the data, we don't have to guess. We looked at

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Speaker 4: where white women aligned, We looked at where the Latino

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Speaker 4: community aligned. We looked at the bottom line data.

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Speaker 1: This show Latino men was that was a surprise?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why was it a surprise? No, No, Latinos have

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Speaker 4: always fifty fifty. They've always When you look at one,

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Speaker 4: you know, I organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign in Michigan.

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Speaker 4: I was the only black woman on the ground in

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Speaker 4: always been divided. When you look at Florida and you

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Speaker 4: look at the Cuban community, they've always went conservative. When

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Speaker 4: you look at the Bernie Sanders the left side the California,

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Speaker 4: they always go left. They have always strategied, and I

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Speaker 4: ain't mad about it. They've always strategically been able to

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Speaker 4: have leverage because they go fifty to fifty. You remember

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Speaker 4: when Joe Biden told black leaders when he won, right

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Speaker 4: they leaked the tapes in front of the Al Sharpton

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Speaker 4: and all them and say, y'all need to go follow

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Speaker 4: the Latino community because they're the ones that have the leverage.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not mad at it, but we need to

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Speaker 4: talk about it for what it is. There might be

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Speaker 4: a black and brown coalition in New York. You know,

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Speaker 4: people to vote their interests. Also, got news for you,

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Speaker 4: black men are conservative. Doing my Joe Biden whisper black

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Speaker 4: people are conservative. I don't know why people want to keep,

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Speaker 4: you know, making that not an issue. So when you're

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Speaker 4: talking about black men and you're talking about other black

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Speaker 4: majority of moderate I know progressives want to sell a

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Speaker 4: different story. But black people, for the most part of

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Speaker 4: Martyr and a lot of them lean conservative. Were gonna

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Speaker 4: get into that when we get into the messaging. But

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Speaker 4: let's just kind of go back a little bit. I

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Speaker 4: agreed that there was some positives to it, but when

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Speaker 4: it came down to it, when we looked at race,

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Speaker 4: white women, to me, just like they did in the midterm,

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Speaker 4: just like they did when they were with Obama. Then

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Speaker 4: they went with Trump, and then they went back to

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Speaker 4: Democrats in the mid terms, and then they flipped back.

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Speaker 4: When you're talking about white supremacy and talking about positioning

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Speaker 4: like what they did with the women suffrage movement, I

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Speaker 4: just didn't see them doing it for a black woman

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Speaker 4: over them. They didn't do it with Hillary Clinton, the

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Speaker 4: only person that ever beat Donald Trump is Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: and I agree with, but.

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Speaker 5: White women voting for Clinton fifty five percent voting for Biden.

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Speaker 5: So the white women been showing out white women, White

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Speaker 5: women have showed three elections well.

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Speaker 4: But but they were also comfortable with Joe Biden. Let's

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Speaker 4: remember Joe Biden is one of them.

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Speaker 5: Let's go back to what fifty five percent of white

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Speaker 5: women voted for Trump over Biden.

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Speaker 4: Right to align with white supremacy to a lot, because

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Speaker 4: this is about white supremacy. This is about would they

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Speaker 4: rather have their household ahead of you as as a

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Speaker 4: black man, their husbands. That's exactly something's wrong and people

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Speaker 4: need to stop these pundents. Get them another They went

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Speaker 4: against their own interest. No, their interest is their household.

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Speaker 4: Your interest is your interest. My interest is my interest.

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Speaker 4: When I keep hearing people say that they went against

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Speaker 4: their own interests, no, they've actually aligned with their interest,

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Speaker 4: which is white man, white woman, black man, black woman.

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Speaker 4: That's the order, that's how it is. Black people on

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Speaker 4: the side, check bottom line. We need to just accept that.

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Speaker 4: I know we want to say black girl, imagine over,

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Speaker 4: we want to say oh, because black this and that

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Speaker 4: black women can't save this country. We need to stop

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Speaker 4: selling that dream. Let's get in position and understand what

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Speaker 4: this timeshare scam because to me, it was a timeshair scam.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you that there was really no other

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Speaker 4: was trash. So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris.

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Speaker 4: Now she's a Democratic nominee. Okay, so cool, we're with that.

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Speaker 4: Black women raised thirty million dollars after Gate. Black men

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Speaker 4: raised thirty million ours Gate. So now we're having to

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Speaker 4: deal with who dropped this bag? Who dropped this billion

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Speaker 4: how they spent the money. I didn't think she had

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Speaker 4: a chance in hell. But once you decided to move forward, okay,

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Speaker 4: so what do we do with the money? Black voters?

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Speaker 4: They lost Black voters across the board. That across the

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Speaker 4: board makes a difference when you're talking about Michigan, makes

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Speaker 4: a difference in North Carolin. So that's where we're getting

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Speaker 4: to your concern where you talk about messaging, where the

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Speaker 4: messaging was all wrong.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the money.

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Speaker 3: Is it normal for candidates to give so much money

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Speaker 3: to quote unquote entertainment when you're seeing that they paid

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Speaker 3: this person to speak and this person to have that back.

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Speaker 3: Is that normal when it comes to politics?

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Speaker 1: Who did they pay to speak?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 2: Well, allegedly, we'll say any people speak, you.

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Speaker 4: Get to pay the speed. But the money that it

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Speaker 4: took to get the set up, the advanced team, the entertainment.

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Speaker 4: So let's go back a little bit. One hundred days

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Speaker 4: was impossible even for a white man. In my opinion,

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Speaker 4: I just want to go back to one hundred days.

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Speaker 4: Running a campaign was damn near impossible for anybody in

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Speaker 4: particularly a woman of color. So now we're in this

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Speaker 4: one hundred day thing. In order to get people to

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Speaker 4: come out, we do use entertainers, and I push back

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Speaker 4: on people say don't use entertainers. It's important killer Mike

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Speaker 4: talks about it all the time. We need entertainers to mobilize.

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Speaker 2: Trump didn't use his money as much for entertainers.

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Speaker 4: No, he didn't at all. Well, he doesn't get a

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Speaker 2: Know, when it comes to that, she run again? Can

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Speaker 1: Let's get through our points.

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Speaker 6: Way before you go to the next thing. I have

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Speaker 6: because they're saying it looks unauthentic, and Cand's owns is

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Speaker 6: saying it looks unauthentic and this is why you didn't win.

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Speaker 6: But Beyonce is not going to be outside like you

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Speaker 1: Like they filled the stadium in Houston to Beyonce.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to feel the stadium. And I'm an

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Speaker 4: I kind of discredit what they're saying. She has to

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Speaker 4: When it comes to Canis owns, I use Killing Mike

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Speaker 4: when you go to Atlanta, Georgia, and you don't call

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Speaker 4: He made himself a fact. This is a fact. And

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Speaker 4: feel about your black outreach. Oh, they'll just do it

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Speaker 4: They're being tired of not having this conversation year around Charlemagne.

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Speaker 4: And so when you guys did I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 4: Dear Born. Well, you know they had the one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 4: The podcast was important. It is important to have podcasts.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'd like to see. I agree, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, the partnership. It's not just you know

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Speaker 4: But you still have to have people knocking on those doors.

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Speaker 4: Damn well, who trick trick is? So when people see that,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking to civic about black people. I'm not talking

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Speaker 4: about this working ass because that translates to white working class.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about black people who felt like they were

435
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Speaker 4: not being heard, were not being understood, and Trump capitalized

436
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Speaker 4: on that. People asked, oh, why did he use Ambrose? Well,

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Speaker 4: guess what she's from where?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: That's a swing state, So you don't have to like

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Speaker 4: his shave room. But that was very strategic. It made

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Speaker 4: sense to have ice worar Vesso, you know in Detroit,

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Speaker 4: even though in the shave room, who is he? I

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Speaker 4: don't know? He is Detroit. That one or two percent

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Speaker 4: made a difference. Why didn't you reach out to Kawomei

445
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Speaker 4: Capatrick because he a fela? Is that why you don't

446
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Speaker 4: think it was important to at least, if nothing else,

447
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Speaker 4: minimize your enemy. There's two things you do in a campaign.

448
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Speaker 4: Minimize your enemy, maximize your friends. You didn't even reach

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Speaker 4: out to that man for a conversation. Whether you like

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Speaker 4: what he did in Detroit or not, the man still

451
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Speaker 4: was elected, His mama was elected. He comes from a

452
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Speaker 4: very long lineage you know of folks in Detroit, and

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Speaker 4: I think that's even it's worth having the conversation. So

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Speaker 4: Trump was able to appear as if he was one

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Speaker 4: of them, which he was not. By the way, he's

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Speaker 4: a white man who obviously, if black man could have

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Speaker 4: never gotten away with what he got with the Fellas,

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Speaker 4: but he was able to appear as if he was.

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Speaker 4: He was able to appear that connection. Why didn't they

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Speaker 4: talk about what Governor Newsom did in California removing the

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Speaker 4: gang enhancement, removing the gang INHS you got homies who

462
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Speaker 4: are literally getting on the yard for the very first time.

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Speaker 4: If you do the crime due to time, no problem

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Speaker 4: with that. But in California, most people are affiliated with

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Speaker 4: the gang just by based on where you live. So

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Speaker 4: Governor Newso has passed great legislation that has allowed people

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Speaker 4: to come home, that has allowed people to actually get

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Speaker 4: on the yard for the very first time. I got

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Speaker 4: ten thousand homies right now in LA that were organized

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Speaker 4: for the next governor just based off that one thing.

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Speaker 4: They didn't talk about those things envy because they sit

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Speaker 4: in this elitist positioning, you know, of let's just not

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Speaker 4: talk about that, you know, let's just fell let's go

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Speaker 4: hide and go low. And Trump was able to capitalize

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Speaker 4: on that. That made a difference when you're talking about a

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Speaker 4: ten percent Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: I think it's hard for them to capitalize on something

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Speaker 5: like the new some thing because it is something that's

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Speaker 5: regulated to California. Like the first step back was a

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Speaker 5: federal a federal law that people act that. He did

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Speaker 5: a phenomenal job of showing, look, I bought this person home,

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Speaker 5: and I bought that person home, and like there was

483
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Speaker 5: other people on social media that would talk about, ma'am,

484
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Speaker 5: my people just came home because of the first step back.

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Speaker 5: I actually think the first step back people don't really

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Speaker 5: credit that enough. They want to talk about stimulus checks

487
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Speaker 5: and PPP loans. But when you can actually see one

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Speaker 5: of your homies come home from prison, that's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we saw what happened in real time. But

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to push you back Libit on how

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Speaker 4: you capitalize against that, How you can capitalize when you

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Speaker 4: look at what Governor Moore was able to do the

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Speaker 4: federal when they took the federal for the marijuana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, simple possesson marijuana.

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Speaker 4: You show the connection. So yes, that was federal, right,

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Speaker 4: but Governor Moore was able to actually utilize that. Without

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Speaker 4: that federal partnership, it wouldn't have happened. So it does

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Speaker 4: trickle down. But the Democrats never connect the dots to

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Speaker 4: show you this is how it actually works. Federal was

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Speaker 4: able to help the state. State was able to have

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Speaker 4: the local and so on and so forth. So there's

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Speaker 4: ways to do it. They just don't do it, Charlemagne,

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Speaker 4: because they feel as if, you know, let's focus on

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Speaker 4: these imaginary voters. Let's spend all this money on white women.

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Speaker 4: Let's spend all this money on Yeah. So Trump was

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Speaker 4: able to capitalize on that. Just another Remember this is

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Speaker 4: about margins in the swing state. So when you got

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Speaker 4: one or two percent that's saying I'm sitting on the couch,

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Speaker 4: or one or two percent of saying I'm going in

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Speaker 4: a different direction, it makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially when you look at the election.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think what Trump had seventy six point

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Speaker 5: one million votes, Harris had seventy four and it's just

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Speaker 5: all those margins. She lost by the margins in a

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Speaker 5: lot of those swings seats.

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Speaker 6: So what you think about Trump's cabinet, and I it's

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Speaker 6: his choices for his cabinet right now, because I mean,

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Speaker 6: these are the people that are gonna have to be Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think nothing. I think Republicans, ran Democrats, ran

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Speaker 4: is gonna be a dictator. Guess what they want a dictator.

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Speaker 4: We've been saying this forever. We've been talking about this

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Speaker 4: day of bipartisanship, and let's just get it through Congress,

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Speaker 4: we said, Charlotmane. You know I said a many times,

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Speaker 4: like with the the George Floyd to Act reducing college debt,

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Speaker 4: do an executive order. Everybody said, you can't do executive order.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go through Congress. Republicans are gonna change it back.

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Speaker 4: If you get in, they're gonna change it back. Guess

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Speaker 4: what Republicans don't give them about changing the back? They

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Speaker 4: changed backro versus. What about changing back a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: of shit Obombacare and everything else. Democrats refue use to

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Speaker 4: work as a dictator. They want a dictator. Everybody's saying,

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Speaker 4: oh man, he's gonna be a dictator, right, that's why

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Speaker 4: they want. Oh, yes, he's gonna take migrants out. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's what they wanted. People need to stop saying that

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Speaker 4: online is driving me crazy. Oh latinos, oh man, oh man,

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Speaker 4: y'all about to see. They want the immigrants, people who

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Speaker 4: are legal, who will coming up to the country legal.

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Speaker 4: They are literally telling you, Yes, we do. We don't

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Speaker 4: support illegal immigration. So people they're thinking they're saying something

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Speaker 4: on social media, y'all gonna see No, they want a dictator.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats ran on democracy, they ran on dictators. Shall

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Speaker 4: gonna be a dictator day one? That's exactly what they want,

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Speaker 4: a dictator. Somebody's gonna push the line, somebody't gonna give

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Speaker 4: DMN back what Congress is talking about. Somebody just say

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't care what the rules are. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna do what I want to do. They want a

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Speaker 4: gangster period.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say dictator, but they want somebody that don't

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Speaker 5: give a fuck, and it's going.

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Speaker 4: To He said he was gonna be a dictator on

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Speaker 4: day He said.

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Speaker 1: That on day one.

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Speaker 5: But I think what people mean when they say they

555
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Speaker 5: just want somebody that's gonna say, you know what, as

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Speaker 5: long as things are getting done for the people, I

557
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Speaker 5: don't care how it gets done. Like John Stewart did

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Speaker 5: a great break monologue last night, and he was just

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Speaker 5: like Democrats always follow the norms and Republicans don't follow

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Speaker 5: the norms.

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Speaker 1: They gonna find those loopholes to break.

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Speaker 4: Which is kind of like dictatorship. Though he said he

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Speaker 4: gonna do what he want to do.

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Speaker 2: That's what politically, you ain't gonna play us.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, that's saying I'm gonna do this, and

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Speaker 4: if you don't do it, it's gonna be hell to pay.

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Speaker 4: If you don't do it, you know, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 4: sure you don't win. If you don't do it, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna call you out. We talked about this with Joe Manchin.

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Speaker 4: They let they set up. Now, Joe Manchine, see this

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Speaker 4: to a Republican. We've been talking about this. This has

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Speaker 4: been going on for the last fifteen years. This loss

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Speaker 4: was not just what happened in the last one hundred days.

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Speaker 4: This has been at least from my experience two thousand

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Speaker 4: and seven. I can name year over year over year

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Speaker 4: on what what happened, on how we got And then

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Speaker 4: another thing I wanna bring up on this messaging abortion.

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Speaker 4: Democrats ran on reproductive rights and democracy failed right out

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Speaker 4: the gate. You had states like Arizona in the bottle

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Speaker 4: that had abortion on the ballot. So democrats mindset is,

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Speaker 4: let's put abortion on the ballot and that's gonna bring

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Speaker 4: you know, so people know, get out to vote. Gotv

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Speaker 4: that's how you get out to vote. Oh, they're going

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Speaker 4: to go to the polls now that abortion is on

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Speaker 4: the ballot. Well, Wich, you did meet ballhead. You actually

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Speaker 4: allowed Republican women who were pro choice to actually vote

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Speaker 4: for abortion and still vote for Trump. There's no rule

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Speaker 4: that says if you support pro choice that you won't

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Speaker 4: vote for Trump. So Republican women in Nevada and Arizona

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Speaker 4: literally have the opportunity to bring abortion back and still

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Speaker 4: vote for Trump. So Democrats shot themselves even in the

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Speaker 4: foot if you were expecting women to go vote for

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Speaker 4: reproductive rights because you gave them an out, and then

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Speaker 4: that was a mistake out the gate. Look at Michigan, Michigan.

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Speaker 4: You can get an abortion in Michigan, So that gonna

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Speaker 4: land anywhere. I know people want this idea, especially black voters.

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Speaker 4: Coul We like to take care of everybody and old

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Speaker 4: what about them in Texas? But the average person is

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Speaker 4: voting their personal interest, that's it. And if I could

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Speaker 4: get an abortion in Michigan, wou't matter to me if

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Speaker 4: you get it in Arizona or Nevada or whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: So when you're running on reproductive rights, which I think

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Speaker 4: was a mistake, and just the Marracy people didn't give

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Speaker 4: a damn about democracy we're talking about when I was

605
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Speaker 4: sitting in twenty eighteen, those first question you asked me

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Speaker 4: out the gate, what do people think about say the

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Speaker 4: don't give it down his whiteo's Whitehe don't give it

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Speaker 4: about no insurrection. They'll do it again. This is what's

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Speaker 4: been happening in this country four hundred years. So the

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Speaker 4: messaging was wrong at the gate. We talked about that,

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Speaker 4: not running, on the economy, not running. But I still

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Speaker 4: think though even if she should have ran on all

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Speaker 4: of those things, they still was gonna vote for. They

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Speaker 4: still would have rather voted for Joe Biden have dead

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Speaker 4: weekend at Bernie's.

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Speaker 5: You know, they.

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Speaker 4: Didn't even win Scranton. They didn't even win Scranton. Joe

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Speaker 4: at least won sprinting. Harris lost Scringt.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Joe would got like sixty five million.

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Speaker 6: Book said, Okay, So, if if what you're saying is true,

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Speaker 6: what was all because I felt how you how you

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Speaker 6: feel now, It's how I felt in the beginning, and

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Speaker 6: then when I saw the excitement and the money moving and.

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Speaker 4: All of that got a chance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what was all of that then?

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was but.

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Speaker 1: Doing anything. We're not giving you no more money.

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Speaker 4: Joe have no choice, that's right, yea. So let's be

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Speaker 4: clear they did not have a choice because George. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they said they didn't have no choice. So two things

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Speaker 4: to be true. At the same time, they had to

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Speaker 4: put Harris in no doubt about that. I'm not disagreeing

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Speaker 4: with that, but I still don't think they would have

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Speaker 4: voted for her. They just wouldn't. They're just not going

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Speaker 4: to give something that they didn't get. First. Did she

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Speaker 4: do the best that she could? Yes? Did she do

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Speaker 4: everything they told her to do? Yes? Did she have

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Speaker 4: one hundred days to do it?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: This is not about shitting on her. This is about

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Speaker 4: setting up a woman to fail in one hundred days

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Speaker 4: to do the damn near impossible. I think Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: should have took that l. He's the one that said,

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Speaker 4: you know, he was gonna run. He's the one that

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Speaker 4: set up there the entire time. They didn't build the bitch,

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Speaker 4: let him take the l. Why now are you putting

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Speaker 4: it on that Yeah? I thought it was like the friendly.

648
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Speaker 2: Cana. Would you advise her to run again because.

649
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Speaker 4: It's again we gotta stop with I don't know what

650
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 4: this subsession we got with federal I'm gonna keep push that.

651
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: Let them have it. Let's talk about especially Republicans now

652
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: saying give it to the state if you really want

653
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: to make real change in your community. I know it's

654
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 4: not as sexy. I know it's not as exciting, but

655
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 4: it really is at the state level. It really is

656
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: at the local level. If you believe in you want

657
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: to fund the public schools, you can do at a

658
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: local level. You say, you know what I want, charter schools.

659
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: I want to be able to educate our own You

660
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: can do that at the local level. Why are we

661
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 4: so infatuated with this White House. I don't get it.

662
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 4: Why not be an Atlanta council with sixteen other people

663
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: in Orlando with six other people to be able to say,

664
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna write a check to the Black Business Investment Fund,

665
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: you know, to be able to say, hey, here's some

666
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: money to go start a business. You can pass reparations

667
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: at the local level. So I don't understand this obsession

668
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: that we have with this federal thing. And I'm gonna

669
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: be honest with you, Lauren. Black women, a lot of

670
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: times we get caught up and it's wanting to be validated,

671
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 4: so damn bad. So when the excitement was there, when

672
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh man, we can do this, we can

673
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: do this. Black girl masage, we do this, we can

674
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: do this.

675
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: Do this.

676
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 4: Validation of needing to be affirmed, need to say you

677
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 4: are qualified enough, you are good enough. A lot of

678
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 4: that played into it. A lot of that played into it.

679
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: But let's not forget three thousand black women did a

680
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: petition and said, Joe Biden, keep your ass in. They

681
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: ignored that and went with the money. To Charllet Mane's point,

682
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: they didn't have a choice.

683
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you, especially about the state thing.

684
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: You know, there's something else Trump said that man landed,

685
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: and I was I'm still trying to figure out how

686
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: did he land this because it's so hard to get

687
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 5: people to focus on this the abortion thing, right, He

688
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 5: told them I wanted to be in the hands of

689
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 5: the state. So whenever you would have conversations with people about,

690
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 5: you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd be like, no,

691
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 5: Trump just wants it to be in the hands of

692
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 5: the state. I've never seen a politician convinced people on

693
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 5: a national level it's going to be local and that's fine,

694
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 5: and they buy into it.

695
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: Well, Trump can get anybody to buy anything he say.

696
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a total man. Press have never been

697
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: equipped to run against Trump. Let's just name it. You know,

698
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: they've never been equipped to run against them. He's too petty,

699
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: he goes too low, he don't give a damn what

700
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: y'all talking about the entertainer first, and so they've never

701
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: been equipped to go against this man. Never. But to

702
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: your point, charlemage is for those that understand the states' rights.

703
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: And when you go back to Reagan, the reason why

704
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: black people are again said, is because what it does

705
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 4: is to disenfranchisse, disenfranchisse, It disenfranchise us even more so

706
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: if you're saying, Okay, in Oklahoma, you can't get access

707
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: to health care, but you can get access to healthcare

708
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: in California. Very liberal. These are folks that can't just

709
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: pick up, you know, and go to California to get

710
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: what they need, don't have the money, So it affects

711
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: poor people in a very bad way. The states' rights,

712
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: but conservatives, they like states give it to the states.

713
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: Their mindset if you don't like it, move somewhere else.

714
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: But none of us had not enough of us have

715
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: the resources to just move, you know, to somewhere else,

716
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: to just move where things you know may be favorable

717
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: to you. So as black voters were always trying to

718
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: carry the lease of these and everybody else and think

719
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: about everybody else. But the reality is, Charlemagne, people are

720
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: only looking at what's in front of their doorstep. And

721
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: if I can do X y Z in Michigan, if

722
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: I can have a successful business with zero regulations in

723
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: Atlanta when cod it happened, when Governor Camp, you know

724
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: a lot of we don't like Governor Camp, but Atlanta,

725
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: Atlanta was still thriving. Black business was still thriving. Georgia

726
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 4: was still thriving. So when people look outside their door,

727
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: when remember when the Santas reduced the gas, when they

728
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: was talking about you can't do nothing about the gas

729
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: when gas was so high, he said, oh no, I

730
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: can do something about it. This is why I talking

731
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: about state. So when people remember that, even though there's

732
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 4: more liberal, more Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what

733
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: affected their pocket and that Republican governor made a difference

734
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: Kemp and Georgia made a difference was passing out Kemp cards.

735
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: He did the same thing Trump did when he signed

736
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: his name. He gave them Kemp cards. People remember that.

737
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: So you can have a state with a republic Democrat

738
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 4: governor like North Carolina, but they still went with Trump

739
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: because they're looking at how does it trickle down. You

740
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: can have a state that flipped and went blue, but

741
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: have a governor Kemp who's a Republican. People like their governors.

742
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: People don't have to like Texas. You don't have to

743
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: like Texas in New York, but your money gonna go

744
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: far in Texas as any felon in Texas they working

745
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: in oil fields. Eighteen dollars is now twenty five dollars

746
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: an hour, thirty dollars an hour. That makes a difference.

747
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: So even if they don't like Republicans, even they don't

748
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: like Trump, when you're looking at how that affects your

749
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: money daily, it makes a difference. And that's where they

750
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: lost as far as really trying to understand, you know,

751
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: the economic conversation, especially with black people.

752
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: What else we got on the list because I know

753
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: you've got some money.

754
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: I got a lot on the list. I kind of

755
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: want to just deal with Michigan quickly because I do

756
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: have some concern with that. I mentioned Rashida Talied, and

757
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: I'm not mad about you know how she was able

758
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: to organize her voters, but I do have some concern

759
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: for Detroit. I do feel as if Detroit does not

760
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: have the voice that they should have. That Rashida Sali

761
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: was able and she should I think she she went

762
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: hard in the paint for she's a Palestinian woman. I

763
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: expect her to. I have no issue with that, but

764
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 4: I do feel like Detroit kind of got crashed out

765
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: a little bit that there's not representation. Detroit is one

766
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: of the blackest cities in the country, and so when

767
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: you had a few enough to say, you know what,

768
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: but I just don't want to be a part of

769
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: the process anymore. And that entire conversation was on GAZA,

770
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: and I know there's a talking point of progressive is

771
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: going to come in and tell you that the polls

772
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: say that black people are concerned about GAZA, and yes

773
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: we are, we do. We are very compassionate. But if

774
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: you ask the average black person, Black American on what

775
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: they're most concerned about, they're talking about again their own

776
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: front door. They're more concerned about what's happening here over

777
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: what's happening in geopolitics right, so to be able to

778
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: be to be a single issue vote. I don't have

779
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: no problem with Rashida to lead, none at all. But

780
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: when you have three black women who ran against Rashida's

781
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: leave in twenty twenty two, all three of them combined

782
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: still didn't have even half of rashida to leave passed.

783
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 4: So she has the votes, she has the power. But

784
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: I feel Detroit is not getting there, just doing at

785
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: least being a part of the conversation, and I hope

786
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: that changes what she got on that list. I think

787
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: that's it list you. I've got some nails with that

788
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: to go over.

789
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Speaker 1: You know. I wanted to ask you about Hakeem Jeffreys.

790
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: Hakim Jeffrey said this week that he sees he says

791
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 5: Democrats are set up for a major comeback.

792
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: You think that's possible.

793
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: What's the comeback? Let me let me know you come back.

794
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 4: What's the comeback?

795
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 6: I've never seen that that mixtape, but they still do

796
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 6: it anyway, and then they don't could.

797
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think first of all,

798
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: and I forgot. I want to name a couple of

799
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: names because a lot of people ain't name the names.

800
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: I do encourage people to go look at that list.

801
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: And the two names that kept popping up over and over.

802
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 4: Quentin no dispect. I've never met him, you know, but

803
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: he was in charge of the bag. And also Cedric Richmond.

804
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: Now you remember when Cedria Richmond came on the Breakast

805
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: Club and said hold him accountable. Remember that.

806
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: In a couple of years I've been I don't even

807
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 5: listen to after when Cedric made that statement on Breakfast

808
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: Club and said, hold him accountable. If anything doesn't go

809
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 5: to way it's supposed to go in to buy an administration.

810
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: And then he just disappeared. He left his position. We

811
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't even know he left his position. I don't I

812
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: ain't pay static no attention.

813
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: Well he literally told Grassroot Organization, y'all just want the

814
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: money to just say that. Yeah, we're saying that where's it,

815
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Speaker 4: And I'm saying it's completely I didn't ask for no check,

816
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: don't want no check, not interested no check. I was

817
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: telling you what the people said, you.

818
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Ain't get none of the million.

819
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: I don't, but they told Black.

820
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: People like the money, don't like like you need money

821
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 6: for things like why is that such a like a

822
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 6: falsehood or something.

823
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: Like, Well, no, they know they they got it and

824
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: just didn't come to black folks.

825
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: It didn't go.

826
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sharp didgets We got five hundred thousand. Yeah, Roland

827
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: got his ship too. Roland, what's having Roller? Can let

828
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: me hold something?

829
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: But that money went out and they're still in the negative.

830
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: And study's strange. They do it every year. They've been

831
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: doing this like this. They do it every year. And

832
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: it's again, it's not just on the entertainers, these white

833
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: liberal consultants who run this party. Because they do and

834
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: then they tell the black folks in charge, the gatekeepers

835
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 4: of the gatekeepers to tell them, okay, give them one

836
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: hundred thousand, give them one hundred and fifty given to it.

837
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: They kept lying saying all the money coming to money coming.

838
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: They literally didn't give it to them three weeks until

839
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: three weeks out. So now now you wonder why you

840
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: lost the black vote.

841
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: They literally giving them this money for so like for instance,

842
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: rollingd Ont and a reverend.

843
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Now what do they use that money for?

844
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: It?

845
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: The only reason I said that because you just said

846
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: that rolling with advertising advertising.

847
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what that, I don't know what.

848
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: Well revenue they gave we really name the names they

849
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: gave the National Action Network. They gave a donation to him,

850
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: donations of a quarter million dollars. Yes, and so, uh,

851
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: that organization is an organization, you know, the worst year round,

852
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: I guess, you know, allegedly for and I'm not saying that,

853
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: you know, to be funny, but you know, for outreach. So,

854
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: but again, it can't just be on just reven ol.

855
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: You know, it's not just on you know, No, no,

856
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: I'm no, I'm saying I'm going to be clear. You

857
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 4: can't just continue to keep spending money just on revenue.

858
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 4: You know, these organizations, Why are you not again, why

859
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 4: are you not connecting with these grassroo organizations who are

860
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: literally struggling literally struggling to give them the money so

861
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 4: that they can organize year round, you know, in order

862
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: to keep people engaged in bottom line by votes. That's

863
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: what they did with the Latino community. They put in

864
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: the mid terms, they put thirty different community centers in Florida.

865
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: Wasn't just about vote and they was coming in trying

866
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 4: to figure out what they could give health care, trying

867
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: to figure out what resources they could get, trying to

868
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: figure it. You literally took care of the community. That's

869
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: where that money is supposed to go. And it's not

870
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: just for advertising. Advertised is important, but it's more than that.

871
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: You literally are supposed to buy votes, guys. That's how

872
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: it works by votes. That sound crazy, Yeah, well to

873
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: buying votes. When I say that, I mean if you

874
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: got a nonprofit in you in the hood, and I

875
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: give you three hundred thousand, and I'm telling you, use

876
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: that three hundred thousand throughout the year to do job training,

877
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: use that three hundred thousand throughout the year to do

878
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: resume buibling, to use that three hundred thousand to put

879
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: people in a better position. Now people can feel it

880
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: and say okay, and then that organization has a responsibility

881
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 4: say this came from the Harris campaign, this came from XYZ.

882
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: This is how we got what we got. And then

883
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: now people can say, okay, I feel it. Like with

884
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: the first step back, they feel it, they can see it,

885
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: they can touch it. And Republicans that have just did

886
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: a better job with that. It's not that Democrats don't

887
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 4: have the receipts. They just don't talk about the receipts.

888
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 4: Their messaging has always been poor and raggedy as hell,

889
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: which is why I left in twenty ten. So it's

890
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: not that they don't have the receipts, they just don't

891
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: talk about. They don't feel they have to. They feel

892
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: they know it all, and turns out they didn't know

893
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: shit at all. They knew it all and knew absolutely nothing.

894
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 4: They didn't listen to any advice that people gave them.

895
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: They say they knew what was best. They said, we

896
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: got this, and turns it out you didn't have it.

897
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest to us. I don't know how

898
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: much well I take that back.

899
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: I do know there was a lot of people out

900
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: there that was giving genuine good advice. But what I

901
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: realized is the people who was out there giving genuine

902
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: good advice was the people who were really doing it

903
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: out of the goodness of their heart. A lot of

904
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: other people I heard talking, they was really upset they

905
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: wasn't getting no money right, and so a lot of

906
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 5: the stuff that they were saying was literally just based

907
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 5: off when y'all gonna give me some money.

908
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: When y'all give me some.

909
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: Money, everybody that I heard actually giving good advice was

910
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: not getting paid by the campaign, right, And those are

911
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: the ones who aren'tetting listened to.

912
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: Why Why can't though, why are you not giving me

913
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 6: some money? Be a call sign to real Like if

914
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 6: you got enough people saying we need, we need, we need,

915
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 6: it's like, okay, we need to figure out why do

916
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 6: I saying we need? Like that's common sense to me

917
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: as a politician.

918
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: Well you should be paying for it. The goodness of

919
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: the hard shit is over with. I mean, like, I've

920
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: done get this so hard for a long time and

921
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: it's basically gonna make you a full time over driver

922
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. People got to get paid.

923
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: But yes, people have their own interests on why they

924
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: were trying to get X, y Z, and they pissed

925
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 4: because they didn't get the money. A lot of these

926
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: people that you're that you're talking about, they got paid

927
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: last time. They wasn't saying shit about the streets. But

928
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 4: now that they got get kept, now was oh man,

929
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: what's going on? You know, I've never had so many

930
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: calls and people say, oh man, we didn't get this

931
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: and get that I'm saying streets bending it, you know,

932
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: I'm talking about those grassroot organizations. They never were getting

933
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: the money. So yes, people have their own special interests

934
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: on why they're trying to get it. But it's a

935
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: billion dollars. Pass it out. If we're gonna run this scam,

936
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: this time's your scam, then let them then, yeah, give

937
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 4: it out. There's nothing wrong with that as well. So

938
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: whether they was it was a goodness of the hard

939
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: or good advice because they had an interest, they weren't

940
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: listening to anybody. Charlotte Mane. The they really do believe

941
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: that they have all of the answers, like literally all

942
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 4: of the It was.

943
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 5: So wrong about everything, Like when they had that whole oh,

944
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: black men aren't going to show up and vote for

945
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 5: the vice president, and you know President Obama was out

946
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: there waving his finger at us. It's like, no, y'all

947
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: should be focusing on these white women, right right, Like

948
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 5: those are the ones that haven't shown up the last

949
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 5: couple of elections.

950
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: The Latino men.

951
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 5: I didn't hear them putting the real emphasis on that either,

952
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 5: but the Latino people didn't show up for them. So

953
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 5: it's just like I I just saw them make mistake

954
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: after mistake and another thing I would say is you had

955
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 5: a presidential campaign that had trouble connected with the working class,

956
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 5: right because they had a bunch of consultants who got

957
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: backgrounds with these giant companies. Do you think that they

958
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 5: should just bring people on these campaigns that are literally

959
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 5: from the.

960
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: Grassroots, And to me, those were the best ideas coming from.

961
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's exactly what the best idea is. Coming

962
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: to another point. I'm glad you're about that. Uh, Charlotte Mane.

963
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: Also a lot of friends groups, you know, people that

964
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 4: were giving them hell online that they ignore that they say, oh,

965
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: that's just you know, Oh, that's just them talking. Oh

966
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: that's just them talking. That's right, again, minimizing your enemy.

967
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: So there were groups online that are literally talking to

968
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 4: fifty thousand, one hundred thousand people every week. You don't

969
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: have to think that's important. But when you got groups

970
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: online saying reparations are not sit on the couch, don't

971
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: do this, don't do that, and you're ignoring that group

972
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: as a real constituency, and you're saying, oh, don't worry

973
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 4: about it. They just on line. Well over time, because

974
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 4: again a lot of these people and they rock with

975
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: me talking about this year around. See why you're just

976
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: talking about this last one hundred days. They're talking to

977
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand people every week,

978
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: every week, every week, every week, and nobody pick up

979
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: the phone to say, hey, can I have a meeting

980
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: with you? Can I at least see what you're talking about?

981
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: Can we at least have some kind of common ground?

982
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: When Democrats in California threw black folks under the bus,

983
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: you know, wanted reparations, nobody thought it was worth even

984
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: having a conversation with the folks online that are giving

985
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: you hell. When you look at people, I'm just gonna say,

986
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: the Hamy Teradona shit giving them hell online every day.

987
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: Nobody think you to call and say, hey, y'all did

988
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: a whole rally on reparations in DC. Let's have a conversation.

989
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: What can we do to at least hear what you say?

990
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 4: So when you do that, that just continues to motivate

991
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: them to keep saying over and over and over they

992
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: ain't fucking with us. And that makes a difference. When

993
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 4: you talk about one and two percent in these mind.

994
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I think it's about

995
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: when you do it. To your point earlier, everybody who's

996
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: thinking about running in twenty twenty eight, they should start

997
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 5: campaigning now.

998
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: Don't wait until the year of the election to start

999
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: reaching out.

1000
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 5: To these different people, cause it looks fake, It looks

1001
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: it looks like it's not authentic, looks like you don't

1002
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 5: really care.

1003
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: Start making those connections now.

1004
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question.

1005
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: Do you think it should be that like Charloamage said,

1006
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: or do you think we should take a page out

1007
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: of Canada's book and out of Francis book where it's

1008
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: like there's a cap, there's a specific time limit, you

1009
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because people get fatigued and after

1010
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: a while people like f all this issue. I mean,

1011
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 3: do you feel like we should go warranto that because

1012
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: now it's almost like big bak take a little.

1013
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Bait, you know.

1014
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 5: I mean as far as campaign campaign concerned, oh should

1015
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 5: be shorter campaign.

1016
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: Short campaign Canada to have a specific time limit, whether

1017
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: it's three months or a certain amount of money that has.

1018
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: To Yeah, it has changed. It used to be six months,

1019
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: one year, two years. Congress has to run every two years.

1020
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: The minute they're getting off is their campaign and then

1021
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: trying to raise money. So no, we are in a

1022
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: year around. Donald Trump has changed this and will forever

1023
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: be changed. This is a year around effort, year around resources,

1024
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 4: year around. That's why I do my training, push the line,

1025
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: nonpartisan training, year around. Getting people in position. That's a project.

1026
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five is all about. People can think it's

1027
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 4: fake or not fake, but that's all about putting people

1028
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: in position. Putting people at the commissioner left and putting

1029
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: people at the state level, putting people at the state

1030
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: if they're not investing year around. If you're if you're

1031
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: gonna bring plies into the game, then plies partner with

1032
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 4: somebody like myself or somebody like unt Free, somebody else

1033
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: to help bring this noise you're around. Because what happens

1034
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: is the day after the election you go, you go

1035
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: back to talking about what you're talking about before, and

1036
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 4: now you got to start the machine all over again.

1037
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I've ain't said nothing from the car since the election

1038
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: about stuff.

1039
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 6: Well, he did say he had woke up. Remember he

1040
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 6: said he missed the election night, but he woke up,

1041
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 6: and so he did say that.

1042
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: I ain't seen him talking about Starbucks and women feet.

1043
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: I ain't seen them talking about.

1044
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: It, right, and that's the man I love. I ran

1045
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: for office in twenty eleven in Orlando. First person I

1046
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: reached out to was Plies. I talked to his manager.

1047
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: He said, you know, applies don't due politics. He not

1048
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: in politics. So to see him doing this now, and

1049
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: reached out to him again. Since then, by the way,

1050
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: reached out to his manager to say, why don't you

1051
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: help me get these people trained. You have a voice,

1052
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: get these people train. In two thousand even and said, many,

1053
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 4: come on, let's do something with thee hundred years, the

1054
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: one hundred years record that he got. Let's do something bad.

1055
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: Massivecarceration in Florida. So when I watch him doing that

1056
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: every day non stop, his heartbreaking to me. Because we

1057
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: do need our entertainers, but we need them to I

1058
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: don't expect them to do the work year around. Entertainers

1059
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: like getting applauses. And see this work is about getting bulls.

1060
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: This work is not about applausing. They only want to

1061
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: be no disrespect. But entertainers like responding to the applause.

1062
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: So the minute you start booing them, the minute you

1063
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: start saying I don't like you. What we saw with

1064
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 4: ice Que when he took a chance and went out

1065
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: there and talked about, you know the state of Black America,

1066
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: and people started booing him and out Wing's seeing Ice

1067
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: Ques since ethon, so you know that, and people they

1068
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: can't take it. And then they say, oh, I don't

1069
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: blame you for leaving, but I do, though I love

1070
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: it left. I blame you though, because homie, you donet

1071
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: set up here and got it. I done reached out

1072
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: to Q two, you got everybody excited. I don't expect

1073
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: you to do the work year around, but partner with

1074
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Speaker 4: people that can because we need we need people like

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Speaker 4: that Gloyala. Come talk to your home girl like glorially

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Speaker 4: need people in her ear too to know she got

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Speaker 4: a he I love a story. Why why are we

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Speaker 4: not connecting her with people that actually know her story?

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Speaker 4: Sexy red or we don't need sexy Red, Yes we do.

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Speaker 4: She'll hold di moved. Maybe y'all don't know how to

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Speaker 4: talk to it, but she can go partner with some

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Speaker 4: of the homies that not even on the list at all,

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00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 4: not even on a voter list. When you bring ten

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Speaker 4: thousand people into the fold, fifteen thousand people on the

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Speaker 4: fold is not even on anybody's list that nobody's real.

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Speaker 4: That's how you win these elections. That's why Trump was

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Speaker 4: able to make that difference on people who were not

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Speaker 4: engaged at all. But in order to do that, you

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Speaker 4: have to do it year round. You cannot do it

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Speaker 4: no ninety days before the campaign. It's never gonna work.

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Speaker 5: Because I agree with you, I think I think what

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Speaker 5: we're saying is because I think that's what people think.

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Speaker 5: People think that entertainers are the leaders that are generals.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 5: They're the soldiers, right, and you want them to be

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Speaker 5: the soldiers right to go organize the people, to bring

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Speaker 5: them back to the actual general the people to actually

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Speaker 5: do them.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, absolutely, And y'all can have the mic. We

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Speaker 4: ain't trying to take the mic from like we get

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00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: it to get the mic, but pass it on to

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Speaker 4: people that are really, really really trying to do it.

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Speaker 4: I will do the heavy lifting, the organizer will do

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Speaker 4: the heavy lifting. Our platforms are never going to be

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00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: as big, you know, as a cube or a glow

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Speaker 4: reala or a sexy grade. And I don't want to

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Speaker 4: encourage discourage them to get out because that's also what's

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Speaker 4: happening because now they even't put their cloud on the line,

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Speaker 4: and then now you got in a table like I'm

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Speaker 4: not getting that shit again.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Fucked, especially when.

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Speaker 4: Exactly because you don't put them in position to make

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00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: it seem like, oh, all we got to do is

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00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: have Beyonce get up and talk and it's all that

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00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: and now you got her look like you said of

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00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 4: the candid's on people calling her out people and that's

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Speaker 4: not on her. It's not on Beyonce. It's not on

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Speaker 4: these But you do need people to get people to

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Speaker 4: the stands, but it's on it's the year around organizers

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Speaker 4: that they just refuse to do. So I want eye

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Speaker 4: entertainers to stay in the game. I just want you

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Speaker 4: to partner with organizers that really actually give a damn

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Speaker 4: about this work because we really do, you know, year

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Speaker 4: around and we don't have enough killer Mike's in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Tell them how to connect with you, and you'll push

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Speaker 1: the line.

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Speaker 4: Movement, yes, push the line politics until something happens. And

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Speaker 4: thank you guys for supporting that. When we did, I

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00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 4: guess was two years ago when I came to the

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00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: Breakfast Club, we had over three hundred people. You know,

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00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: they came to Atlanta on their own dime, to learn

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00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: how to be candidates, to learn how to be operatives,

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Speaker 4: to learn how to be organized. It's a non partisan

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Speaker 4: training that I created. These people flew from all over LA, Dallas, Houston,

1136
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Speaker 4: New York. In the room, you know, three hundred people.

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Speaker 4: That's why when people tell me, don't nobody want to

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Speaker 4: do this, they're not interested. That's not true. Jay was

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Speaker 4: there in the fact that she came to the training,

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Speaker 4: came all the way from DC. These people were outside

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Speaker 4: at six am in the morning in the rain to

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Speaker 4: learn how to do this. They want the training. They

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Speaker 4: want to know how can I change on the local level.

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00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: But we just don't have enough support to get around.

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00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: So I'm asking people to text. Push the line all caps,

1146
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: push the line to sixty six, eight sixty six, And

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00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get partners, guys. I'm trying to people

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00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: over fifty cities have said can you bring the training here?

1149
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: But I'm teaching people in the training how to organize,

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00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: how to organize if you want to be a candidate,

1151
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: if you want to be an operative, if you want

1152
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: to be an organizer, whatever it is you want to do.

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00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: I believe my training is one of the best. And

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Speaker 4: the reason why is because it truly is a military mindset.

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Speaker 4: It truly is cutting through all the bullshit. I've been

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00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: to all the trainings. I've been in Congressional Black Caucus training,

1157
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Speaker 4: a White House training, Yelle Women's school, law school, I've

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: been to them all, and all of them sell a

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00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: bunch of bullshit, respectfully. You know, they come in and

1160
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: tell you, you know, you're gonna have a stab, You're

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00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 4: gonna have this and that. My train is really designed

1162
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: to tell you know, Lauren, it's really just gonna be

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Speaker 4: you with twenty dollars. How can we you know, move

1164
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: from that? So people are hungry, they want information. I'm

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00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 4: trying to get people to partner to help me do

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00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: more of it because I can't just do it, you know, myself,

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Speaker 4: out my own pocket. I can't. I don't want to

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00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 4: charge people. People don't have the money to pay for it.

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Speaker 4: So we're just trying to, you know, keep building up

1170
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: that momentum and hopefully be able to do any people

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Speaker 4: that to join. And you also looking for ye I

1172
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: may write me a check out.

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Speaker 1: You mean, I make a donation right now? What you need?

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: Charle let's give one hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 2: We can go.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot. We can help get you that now.

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Speaker 4: Dollars holiday, And I do want to say that. Also, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all notice, largest black mail incarceration

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Speaker 4: in the country, the highest black femicide rate. Yes, more

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00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: black women are murdered in Wisconsin then anywhere. They didn't

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Speaker 4: give any money to Milwaukee at all, So now you're

1183
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: expecting that's what you were expecting. And also Wisconsin is

1184
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Speaker 4: one of the most the least diverse state in the country.

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Speaker 4: So now you're gonna run a former state attorney in

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin where black men are locked up more than you know.

1187
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: This is true. Whether you like it, we got to

1188
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: deal with what it really is. They weren't trying to

1189
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Speaker 4: hear any any of that. They shit it on Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: They shited it on Milwaukee. They used to do hip

1191
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 4: Hop Week there every year. They don't have the budget

1192
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: to do that anymore. They were trying to bring sake,

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00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: how tess and how can we come down get out

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00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: the vote. They couldn't get twenty five hundred dollars together

1195
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: to say, let's get the vote out. They went to

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00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: the white voters in Wisconsin. So these are the kind

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00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: of things, guys, that we just have to put on

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Speaker 4: the table. I know people saying teds, move on, just

1199
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Speaker 4: deal with it. No, we have to call this shit out, guys,

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Speaker 4: because if we continue to mismanage this money, then we're

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00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: not you know, actually getting the help you know that

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Speaker 4: we need. And it's critically important.

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Speaker 5: If I text pushed the line to this number, that's

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Speaker 5: still work, all right. Text pushed the line to six

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Speaker 5: six six, No, six six eight sixty six. Text push

1206
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Speaker 5: the line to six six eight sixty six to join

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Speaker 5: the Texas email list for push the line right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Let me go through my list.

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Speaker 2: It's all goodness. Tsant figure out. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club