1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. Oh wait is this Apple Pay? It 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: has the Apple symbol. She says, yeah, she said, wants this. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: She walks over with her phone World Paid. I never 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: said anything like it. I thought that was the greatest thing. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: You want to learn something new. Just talked to a person, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. A brand new top of the line 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Hesna plaid bought fire The owner was trying to get 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: out of the locks now functions. He had to literally 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: forced his way out. These things are actually Harry went 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: up like pig happens. How long have you been a firefighter, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Bron thirty years? Welcome to the radio home of Ron 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: five five six d now running. So a pink a 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three Volkswagen thing wandered into the shop this week. 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, I love Gordon. He's a great customer and 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: he's got the best sense of humor. He drives this 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: pink thing. That's what it's called. It's the thing. It's 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: a Volkswagen thing. It kind of looks like the Barbie car. 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: They actually made a Barbie car, you know, out of this. 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: And Gordon has the full size scale of it. Um 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: and his license plate is you know, he even he 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: even says laugh on the license plate, right, just you know, 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: because he knows. And I gotta tell you it's Once 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I fixed it and I got it running, I was 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: stunned because I had to drive it around town, you know, 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: make sure it was working. And I was stunned. How 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: many people more people point stare and take pictures of 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: that than the hot rod. I've got to tell you. 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, society has changed a little 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: bit in the last thirty years, where uh, you know, 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: a pink Volkswagen is more buzz than a black fifty 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: five Chevy. I don't get it. I I'm probably outdated here, 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: But in any event, it came in. It was a 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: no start, and I asked Gordon the usual questions when 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: and how did it happen? And it was typical answers 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: until he told me the part where he tried fixing 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: it himself. And I said, what kind of problem were 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: you having? He says, well, not this particular problem. He 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: was having another issue with it with the ignition switch. 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: And I went, uh, And you know it's funny, you're 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: so used to working on computer cars. I have to 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: tell you. You get out all the high tech equipment 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: and the vault meters and the power probe, and you're 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna put twelve volts here and do this and do that, 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and nothing seemed to be working. The diagnosis was really 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: a little stagnant is a good word. And I realized, 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: I said, listen, I just need to have hot off 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: a thirty going down fifty, which is way Volkswagen numbers 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: their circuits. I took out a cotter pin and I 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: jumped thirty to fifty and it didn't crank. I measured 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: twelve volts back at the starter. Solinoid boom, We're done. 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: The new starter new never ever worked. The new starter 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: that he had put in when he thought he was 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: having a problem after he did the ignition switch work 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: was bad. I took the old starter he had given 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: me that I rebuilt for him a couple of weeks 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: prior to put that in. The cars fixed you know 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just too funny not to laugh 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: at it. And I guess that's why the license plate 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: says that. But that was my that was my Volkswagen 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: things story. And I thought I was done. Then he said, oh, 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: change the oil. You know, I forgot how to change 67 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: the oil in the Volkswagen Beatle engine. It's been so long. Uh, 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: no filter, just to screen these, you know, they take 69 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: down the the the six or eight whatever it was, 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: acorn nuts, the whole thing comes out. What a simple 71 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: little engine. I I used to read. I remember having 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: to work on those quite a bit, you know, in 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: my sordid youth. Russell and I would we could have 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the engine out of a Volkswagen in about twenty minutes, 75 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: eighteen if the if the wind was worth us, and 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: um just just kind of brought back a lot of memories. 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun working on a Volkswagen 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: engine again. So I wouldn't recommend it on a daily basis, 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: because then you'll forget how to work on computer cars. 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: But you know what, as a as a pause in 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: the insanity of working on electronics all week long, it 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: was a nice break from the day. So thanks to 83 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Gordon for bringing in. If you want to see a 84 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: picture of the thing, get out to our our our face, 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: our Volkswagen page, our Facebook page, and we've got it 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: up there on the ronin eating of the Car Doctor 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: facebook page. I've gotta see if I can. I'll get 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: that up on the web page to our Car Doctor 89 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: show dot com web page or new web page, and 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I owe a couple of stories up there. I've got 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: to get up and keep the blog going, so I'll 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: make a note. Maybe we'll do that tomorrow on my 93 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: day off. So let's let's go over to Greg in 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Florida with an eleven Impala and a blow or not 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: work and Greg, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: can I help? Hey? Thank you? Uh, I don't know 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you can help if you could direct me where I 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: could get this blower working again like it's supposed to. 99 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Did it was? It was? It operating and then it 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: just died out of the blue, and it doesn't work 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: in any speed right now? Well, noticed start with, it 102 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: was cutting in and out, and I found that the resistor, 103 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: the one of the blades and the connector had burned up. 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: When I pulled the connector off one of the blades 105 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: came out of the resistors and say, you know, it 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: wasn't any good night. Straight wired it for a long 107 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: time with a toggle switch. And because I have some 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: wires in here, because it's an old cop car, it's 109 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: it's got a hot wire and a ground coming out 110 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: from under the format. So I straight wired it to 111 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the mower motor, the blower motoring. But I got a 112 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: used resistor from the salvage yard and the connector, and 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: when I was putting it in, I should have disconnected 114 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: the battery, but I didn't think I needed to, but 115 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: I did because I accidentally let the hot wire from 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: the cop car equipment contact one of the wires that 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: goes to the resistor, and I got a spark and 118 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: I heard a pop. But you know, long story short, 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't get the blower working, and I got it 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: straight wired to a toggle switch. So let's go on 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the assumption that you blew a fuse, all right, that 122 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: and as long as we both understand that, you know, 123 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: assumption is a dangerous word for a lot of reasons. 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Go to the underhead. I checked every huge with a 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: test light, and I couldn't find anything. Tested every fuge 126 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I could find. Go to the go to the blower 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: control module. You're gonna have a you're gonna have a 128 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: red wire at the blower module. Do you have twelve 129 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: vaults on that? Key on engine off or key on 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: engine running? It won't matter. Uh? Is that different from 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: the resistor? Know the well the blower module is. We're 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: probably talking about the same thing. GM calls out a module. 133 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: It's a control module. It sits right next to the 134 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: blower motor. Okay, yeah, I don't have any power going 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: to that module. Okay, so yeah, so if you have 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: if you have no power to the module, that red 137 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: wire okay, if that red wire has no power on it, 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: that goes back it there's a connection, uh connector to ten. 139 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: But follow it all the way back to the fuse 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: block underhood. It sounds like you've got a bad blend 141 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: or actualator going on there. Yeah, they all do. That 142 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: is that I've seen. Um. But go to the fuse 143 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 1: block underhood, the underhood fuse block. Make sure make sure 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 1: fuse number four bat four, bat four, it's a thirty 145 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: AM fuse. Make sure that's a good fuse. It sounds 146 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: like you blew that fuse and at my uh diagram 147 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: under the cover there, I see see BAT three and 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: bat too. You're looking for bad four fuse block underhood? Okay, yeah, 149 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I see it. It's at the top and it's a 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: large thirty amp. It's probably one of those rectangular that. 151 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah it's it's one of those funny rectangular thirty amps 152 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: right as we like. Yeah, yeah, it's a big It's 153 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: not like you gotta you gotta local Oreilly to parts Greg. Uh, 154 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: not exactly local, but uh, I've got in order to 155 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: pick up from there right now, soon as I can 156 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: get out there, all right, So take that fuse out. 157 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: You got an all meter? No, I don't. I can't 158 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: keep one of those without tearing it up. All right, 159 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: Well pull that out and look at it carefully. It 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: would be nice if you could olmeen. But look carefully 161 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: across the top of that fuse. Does it look melted? 162 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: If it is, that fuse is what you blew, And 163 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: then I would tell you. I would tell you that. 164 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I would tell you to take that fuse with you 165 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: to the order parts or to your local oraliotal parts 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: because they'll match it. Because sometimes the listing on those 167 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: is a little cock did yeah, I've got it in 168 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: my hand. I pulled it out. It looks good, but 169 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: I can't see that well, but it looks pretty clean, right, well, 170 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: it's they're very deceiving. You've got to look at them 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: very carefully. The best way to check it is with 172 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: as as is to own them all right, So you're 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: either gonna owen or you're going to replace it, but 174 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: you've got to start somewhere if you've got to blown fuse. 175 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Either that he melted the wiring harness, and I would 176 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: think you'd blow the fuse if you grounded that red wire. 177 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: That red wire is a direct hot Then was the 178 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: key on when you were doing this? No, he wasn't on. Well, 179 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: what what happened? I think the hot wire, you know, 180 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: not not in use because it's from the police equipment 181 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: that I had straight wired to the fan. Right, it can, 182 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: it can contacted. I'm not sure which wire it contacted 183 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: of the three that come to the module. Okay, well, 184 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: out of the remaining you've got five wires there, you've 185 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: got two grounds. You've got three grounds. Actually, one's a 186 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: ground inside the control module. One's a ground inside the 187 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: blower module itself for the blower and the other one 188 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: is ground two hundred, which is out by the wheel, 189 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: out by the A pillar underneath. But you're gonna find 190 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: that you've got that hot You've got to have hot 191 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: on that red. If you don't have a hot feet 192 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: on that red, then you've got to trace it back 193 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: from the fuse block. And I would start with that fuse. 194 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: If you can't test that fuse, they're cheap enough Papa 195 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: fuse in it, and that fuse doesn't do it for you, 196 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: then you've got a problem with that wire. You're gonna 197 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: have to trace it out. Yeah, it looks like it 198 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: might be. Uh, this fuse I've got in my hand, 199 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: it looks like this a real small wire. But I 200 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: think it'd be bigger for a thirty. But it looks 201 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: like a tiny you know, it doesn't take much, It 202 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: doesn't take much of it. Sounds like that got grounded, 203 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: and um, that's where your issue is, all right. Maybe 204 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: the guys that Orellyoto parts contested for you, you know, 205 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: maybe they've got a digital vault on or some kind 206 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: of an old meter on the counter. And but that's 207 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: where I would start. That is a correct diagnosis. Verify 208 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: your power. If you've got no power on red. You 209 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: gotta start there, all right, and then keep in mind 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: keep in mind before I go, because I gotta go, 211 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: keep in mind if you melted the blower module, if 212 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: the connector was melted and the module itself has failed, 213 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: you've got to do an amterra a test or change 214 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: the blower motor because there's a pretty good chance that 215 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: blower motor has such high current pull that's why you 216 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: melted the module that was common on those cars. All right. 217 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: That module should pull no or that blower motor should 218 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: pull no more than fifteen amps. If you're pulling more 219 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: than fifteen amps, replace it because that's why the blower 220 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: module failed to So you got two things to check, 221 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: all right, kiddo, keep going, let me know what you find, 222 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: and get out to your local Orelioto parts and I'm 223 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: sure they'll be able to help you. Eight five zero 224 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: nine zero zero running any of the car doctor and 225 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: company coming back right after this. Got number time right 226 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: on the wall, so you don't forget to call for 227 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: car advice. Done right? Eight five five five zero zero zero. 228 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to stand 229 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: in Canada. Stand what's going on? Welcome Hi, Ron, thank 230 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: you and thank you for your show on the Mercedes 231 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: Bends B two hundred, which I understand he is not 232 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: through you coming down in the States. As a vehicle appearance, 233 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: it's quite quite frequently seen. When we initially purchased it 234 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: about four years ago, the vehicle was diagnosed with a 235 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: valve body fault on the transmission. UH. That was pretty 236 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: much repaired immediately UM. But right after that repaired, the 237 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: vehicle started stuttering, presenting like increases in revs and up 238 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: and down by about six seven hundred additional revs per minute, 239 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: and then kind of settling down for a few minutes UM. 240 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: And this was intermittent. UM. We did the plugs, the 241 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: wires and the coils that seemed to calm down the 242 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: stuttering a little bit. UM. And then recently it was 243 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: diagnosed with a faulty voltage regulator on on the alternator. Okay, 244 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: we thought it was the alternator because the battery just 245 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: just died one day, but it was infenans the voltage regulator. 246 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: That was repaired um quite recently. And then however, in 247 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of days that that slight stutter has 248 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: has kind of returned. UM. Any special after a long 249 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: drive that I had with the Acorn running and two 250 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Leader vehicles. So I'm interested to get your take. What 251 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: could this be? Its been kind of going on for 252 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: four years right to regular two Leader? Is it a 253 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: two Leader turbo stand or no? No, non turbo? Mm 254 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: hmm okay. So are you saying I didn't quite understand 255 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: the first part that the bell housing of the transmission 256 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: was repaired. I know that was the the valve body. Oh, 257 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: the valve body of the transmission. Yeah, and that's quite 258 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: a common problem with these vehicles, so let's talk about 259 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: it from there. Um. Other than that, no dash warning lights, 260 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: no check engine light, nothing like that. There were on 261 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: over the course of you know, in between the repairs. Um, 262 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: and it's through specifically, UM, misfirefall yeah okay, right, and 263 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and you know the lights out now though, oh yes, 264 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: And then so they resolved the misfires, but you're still 265 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: feeling like it's starting to hesitate or stutter. Would that 266 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: be a good explanation? Very much? All right? So you 267 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: know understand sometimes you know, you get to this point, right, 268 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: we can't count on a check engine light every time. 269 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: It's not the be all and end all and we 270 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: have to think outside the box a little bit. So, 271 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, here's a car that's you know, twelve years old. 272 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: It's been in probably I don't want to say a 273 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: harsh environment, but I'm sure you know, Canada gets its 274 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: fair share of snow like the rest of North America. 275 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: And you start thinking about corrosion and body grounds and 276 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: things like that. How many miles are on this? How 277 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: many kilometers are on this? I'm sorry, Uh Google tells 278 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: me that's so you know, it's got a bit of 279 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: mileage on it. When I get involved in a car 280 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: like this, one of the things I do is I'll 281 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: go around and I'll look at body grounds, I'll look 282 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: at engine grounds. I'm just you know, sometimes it's worth 283 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: it to take that hour and just you know, crawl 284 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: around the vehicle and just look. You'd be surprised what 285 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: you'll say. All right, So that's that's on my mind. Naturally, 286 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: good positive connection at the battery, and I don't say 287 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: positive in terms of just the positive cable, but both 288 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: cables good, clean connections, good you know, solid ground points, 289 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: voltage drop a few things, which is just you know, 290 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: let's stop looking for what's broke. Let's tell me what's 291 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: good and we can eliminate it. And I would write 292 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: down everything. You know, I would sit there and I 293 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: I will do this. I will literally, I'll get a 294 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: vehicle like this stand. I'll print out a wiring diagram 295 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: and I will go through component by component, um, you know, 296 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: in terms of engine performance, and I'll circle things. Could 297 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: it be a crank sensor, sure, that's possible. Could it 298 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: be um, could it be the EVAPP system? No, so 299 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: that gets crossed off the list. Although I will look 300 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: at sensors, I will look at wiring. I will look 301 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: to see because if I see a common five old 302 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: signal that could somehow affect the throttle position or a 303 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: pedal position sensor. Yeah, it's on the list. You know. 304 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Just because we don't have a check engine light doesn't 305 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: mean we can't have this as a fault. Obviously we do. 306 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: So I want to look at grounds. I want to 307 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: go through a wiring diagram. I want to use that 308 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: wiring diagram to help me A kind of gets my 309 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: brain thinking, you know, um, when when the problem happens. 310 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm not a big scope user that I will scope everything, 311 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: but here is a case where I think using a 312 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: lab scope to look at crank signal and crank position 313 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: and what's it doing and when this happens. I think 314 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: would be a great time to do that, and you know, 315 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: some basics baseline the vehicle and look at fuel trimp. 316 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Do those couple of things. Call me back, Stan, I 317 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: want to talk more about this car. When you get 318 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: some more details from it. Maybe we can fix this 319 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: for you and help move it along. I'm runing any 320 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 321 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back of the car doctor. You know, it would 322 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: be an interesting statistic, Tom, if we could find out 323 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: how many cars can match fire in a day in 324 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: the US. And I'm not a glutton for punishment. I'm 325 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: reading the rest of this article. We've been talking about 326 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: it this week about the Chevy Bolts and GM. The 327 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: article continues, owner should take steps out of an abundance 328 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: of caution. Caution Representative Kelly said, what was that, Tom, 329 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: You're scaring me. The steps should be continued until GM 330 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: engineers investigating developer repair. The car should be parked outdoors 331 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: after charging his complete GM said in a statement, we 332 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: are moving in as we are moving as quickly as 333 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: possible to investigate the issue, they said. Vermont's state representative 334 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: Tim Briggland, who's bolt caught fire, said he drove it 335 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: to working back home in Vermont on June depleting the 336 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: battery around ten percent of its range. He plugged it 337 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: into a two forty volt outdoor charger around a PM 338 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: and left the bolt in his driveway after the car 339 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: message that it would be fully charged by four am. 340 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Around six thirty the next day, he saw smoke coming 341 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: from the rear of the car and had a call 342 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: and had a call to fire department. Volunteer firefighters arrived 343 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: within ten minutes. This is the reason I'm reading this, 344 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: and extinguish the blaze with a lot of water, a 345 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: lot of water, but stayed for another three hours using 346 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: an infrared camera to make sure the battery temperature didn't 347 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: increase in the fire didn't restart. Nothing other than some 348 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: nearby plants were damaged. Briggland said he recoil repairs done 349 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: on June nine and charge this ball its battery capacity 350 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: of the morning of the fire. I want to know 351 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: how many cars catch fire on a regular day. How 352 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: much time do we have that firefighters can sit around 353 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: for three hours waiting to see if the thing catches 354 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: fire again, you know, how many resources, how much resource 355 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: are we going to tie up? It? Just it just 356 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, um that we're moving in this direction. 357 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to equip watch. The next 358 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: thing is we're gonna coop electric cars with foaming material 359 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: to foam themselves in the event of fires and drive 360 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: the price up. And you know, probably in a hundred 361 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: years will be back the gasolene cars. I'll still be 362 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: here fixing them. Let's go over and talk to where 363 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: we going tom uh Massachusetts. Let's go over to John 364 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts seventeen GMCCR or and welcome to the car Doctor. 365 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: How can I help Ron? Thanks for taking the call. 366 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: I've got two, just recently bought. It's got about nine miles. 367 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: I've done all of the maintenance that you have said 368 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: about the fuel conditioner and fuel treatments, and I have 369 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: done the direct injection treatments they have that Bairman has 370 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: right through the intake. And is is there any negative 371 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: to doing that? Again? I'm not sure this vehicle has 372 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: been well Uh, it's been well maintained, but I'm not 373 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: sure how many fuel treatments it had. It doesn't idle 374 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: that great. UM when it got better after I did 375 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: the first treatment, and I don't know if I can 376 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: do another one or not. You know, I wouldn't do 377 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: it right away, you know, I would do it. Drive 378 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: the vehicle for two weeks, clear out the cat because 379 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: some of that material gets you know, gets attached to 380 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: the cat honeycomb, and then the cat kind of goes 381 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: through a clean up process too. That's one of the 382 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: things that fuel system conditioners, especially something like a Berryman 383 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: has technology based cleaner, will do. When I did my 384 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: daughter's escape, if you recall, oh gosh, maybe it's eight 385 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: months ago, we were talking about she had fuel trim issues. 386 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to drag it down from its high 387 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: down to something more manageable. I did several Berryman Port 388 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: fuel injection cleanings. UM on the intake side, so it 389 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: was going through and hitting the valves and UM, I waited. 390 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: I did it over the course, so I did it 391 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: a little more aggressively. I did it over the course 392 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: of a week, but that was only because I had 393 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: to get her back to you know, where she lived, 394 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: and uh, I had to get the car back and 395 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: so forth. But yeah, you can do it multiple times. 396 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. Um. You know, 397 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: I think if if if I did it twice and 398 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: then if you wanted to do it a third time, 399 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: I would, you know, wait another two weeks and maybe 400 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: do it a third time and then consider changing the oil. 401 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: Um Because as fuel, multiple fuel system cleanings are are 402 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: will tend to beat up oil. Has been my experience. 403 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: So I'll change the oil, and out of an abundance 404 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: of caution, I will change the oil. You know, I 405 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: don't have any direct scientific proof of it, but logically, 406 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: if I'm dealing with something with stuck rings, sticky rings 407 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: that don't seal as well, and carbon on the valves, 408 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, I want to keep blasting the valves and 409 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: the debris you have to figure has to go somewhere logically, 410 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: so to do? You know, And I've always said this, 411 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: and I'll probably say this the day I die. Oil 412 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: is the cheapest thing you can put in a car. Uh. 413 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, I love the go ahead. I was just 414 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna say I do short drives with it, and I 415 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: do three thousand miles three months no matter what, right, 416 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: you know. I love the debates. Yeah, well, and I 417 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: love the debates and I love the guys that you know, 418 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: they'll spend all this time and money and effort to 419 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: get oil analyzed and sampled and then talk about it. 420 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: And now until the cows come home. You know what 421 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: change you have? More off and drive the car more, 422 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: don't worry out. You know. It's it's the magnitude that 423 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: people go through. The level of change that people go 424 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: through to do certain things boggles my mind. Uh, you know, 425 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to oil, when it comes to vehicles. 426 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: I was talking to a gentleman this morning who is 427 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: so knowledgeable, and I've got to get them on air. 428 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I should have started the microphone. 429 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: We could have been talking about this for it was 430 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: a forty minute conversation. Things are going on in California. 431 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: I'll tell you John that it's just staggering where they're 432 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: changing software and vehicles for performance, which we do around 433 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: the country, but they're also doing things that are now. 434 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: They're changing engines and trucks. They're going from truck engines 435 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: with you know, variable displacement where they're shutting off cylinders 436 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to non variable displacement engines. And then they're changing wiring 437 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: harnesses and computers and matter of fact, so much so. 438 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: And I've got a note here somewhere on my desk 439 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: that they're talking about how the California Bureau of Auto 440 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: Repair and the clean air agencies in California are now 441 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: making it a requirement if the vehicle does not have 442 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: the correct software, computer and engine in the vehicle, even 443 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: though it's burning and running clean, no codes, everything's doing. 444 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: If it's not as intended, that vehicle will fail inspection. 445 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: And the point I'm trying to make is the level 446 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: that people will go through to, you know, get a 447 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: vehicle to the point of to operate it. I just 448 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: it's right up there with why we worry so much 449 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: about what oil to use and how far can I 450 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: get out of it? Just just change the oil we 451 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: have different vehicle Life's too short, I you know, you know, 452 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, as an example, I've got a two thousand, 453 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: eleven GMC that's going on three and that's been oil 454 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: changed regularly, just like that, and they've never had an issue. 455 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: Everything is original, and I can be done. And I 456 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: bet you don't have any oil leaks either. I don't write. 457 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: And that's the other thing that you know, that's the 458 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: other thing they'll say, well, you know, I changed my 459 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: all every ten thousand miles and I got three hunder 460 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: thousand miles out of it. Yeah, but how many oil 461 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: leaks do you have? Um? You know, And that's it's 462 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: it's and the one thing you have to remember. And 463 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: I think this is probably the biggest reason why we 464 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: change oil on a regular basis, because cars, as they 465 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: get older, you know, the old man, the young man 466 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: becomes the middle aged man becomes the old man, and 467 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: that car needs a little more attention and changing the 468 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: oil on a more frequent, regular basis get somebody under 469 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: the hood under the vehicle to look at things and 470 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: drive it to that point of higher mileage. And I 471 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: think that's just so important because they become less tolerant 472 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: of leaks and seeps and other things that can happen. 473 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: The volvo that got towed into the shop this week 474 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: from Newport News, Virginia, courtesy of Bill and his daughter 475 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: mattelin Um has four thousand miles on it, and you know, 476 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Bill has been all over this Car's daughter assures me that, 477 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, tried to do everything. Unfortunately, Maddie, you know, 478 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: moved from home and now she's up in New York City. 479 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: And you know, had someone gotten to that radiator host 480 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: clamp before it failed, I wouldn't have got to meet 481 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: her and hear about her dad. So you know what, 482 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: somebody under the hood on an older car is just 483 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: really really important. Um, I can't. I can't say it. 484 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. You know, beat the point home enough, 485 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: So John, I appreciate yes, sir, go ahead. I'm sorry. 486 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I practice what you preach. I appreciate that. I uh, um, 487 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: you know it's funny. On a personal note, you just 488 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: you look at what this radio show creates. My wife 489 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and I went to dinner someplace locally midweek this week, 490 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: and we came out and across the street was an 491 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: order repair shop and the name of it was Automotive 492 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: pH D. And she looked at me and she said, 493 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: is that another way of saying car doctor? I said, yeah, 494 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: I think so. Um. I said, look what I've created. 495 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: I've created a whole cottage industry, which there are and 496 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: all truthfulness, twenty years ago, nobody called themselves the car doctor, 497 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: and there were no shops called the car doctor, or 498 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: at least not in the volume. Now there is. Look 499 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: what I've done. Zero the car doctors coming back right 500 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: after this? Fucking back one any time. You got a 501 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: message for me from Greg? Yeah, Gregg called back from Florida. Yes, 502 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: and he said that he happened to have a new 503 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: fuse replaced it. Congratulations, you fix his car? Run. Well 504 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: that's one, okay, So next next, next week, I can 505 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: start fixing cars for real. So but well, listen, it's logical, right, 506 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: you gotta start somewhere. It's do we have power on 507 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: the line. No, let's go look at the fuse. Hello. 508 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: So and there's the first problem right there. I think 509 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: he's got to get more tools though, um I didn't 510 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: want to comment about the part we said he wore 511 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: out the voltmeter or something whatever. He said, it's too 512 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: hard on it. So if you're hard on the tools 513 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: and you gotta get more tools, be easier. Terry Vermont 514 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: eleven Accura, what's going on here? Thanks for Ron for 515 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: taking my call. I gotta two thousand, eleven accurate the 516 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: ex turbos that I bought last December with a hundred 517 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: and thirty seven thousand, what's five thousand on? It's having 518 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: in trouble with it overheating. After that, maybe ten minutes 519 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: or so little it'll peg out. And if I don't 520 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: watch it coming up under the hood, I wonder if 521 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: there's an inherent problem. Well, not really, but now the 522 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: question becomes, the concern becomes, you know, are the cooling 523 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: fans coming on? Do you have a head gas at issue? 524 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Is it a radiator problem? You know, there's a there's 525 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: a couple of things that we've got to try and 526 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: dope out. Has anybody worked on this or done anything 527 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: to it trying to solve it? Well, about a month ago, 528 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: I was sitting in line when I when I first 529 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: noticed that, uh, and it started smoking. I was gonna 530 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: drive up window at a restaurant and so I started 531 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: shutting it off and moved and shut off and moved 532 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: and uh. I managed to get it over to a 533 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: car dealers that was the next door, well familiar was, 534 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: and they took it in and they have sent then 535 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: ended up replacing the fan, uh, the cooling fan. And 536 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking, well, at first we thought it was 537 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: the fan went and caused overheat, and I'm thinking now 538 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: maybe the overeating caused the fan to though, well was 539 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: the so so the fan was legitimately bad? Yeah, Okay, 540 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: So the fan was replaced, but the car continued to overheat. Yeah, 541 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's it doesn't do it very often. Ite 542 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I was listening to you today 543 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: about it less than an hour ago and sitting with 544 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: it idling and smoking. Right, do you have, um, do 545 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: you have any kind of tools, Terry? I mean, or 546 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: do you have a shop you can go and talk 547 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: to and explain things too that they'll they'll they'll maybe 548 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: follow some basic procedures. Yeah. The place that I bought it, 549 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: it's they gave me one. And this is this is 550 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: an r d X. This is a turbo car. You 551 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: said that, right, Okay, Um, they actually the r d 552 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: x is do have a habit as they get older 553 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: they don't tolerate overheat. So if the fan was bad, 554 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: if the fan had a problem, it may not tolerate 555 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: that overheat well like any engine wouldn't. And it's possible 556 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: that it's got a head gas get or a cracked 557 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: head issue. So let's let's let's do this. Let's take 558 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: it to them, leave it with him the night before 559 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: so in the morning, Um, they can look at it 560 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do the day before. However, they 561 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: want to arrange this because I'd like them to do 562 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: this on a cold engine. Uh, and let it sit overnight. 563 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: Is pull the spark loox as a fourth cylinder? Correct, 564 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: this is the this is the two four right. Let's 565 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: let's let's pull plugs and put a pressure test on 566 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: the cooling system and you know, the next the next morning, 567 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: let's look down the halls. Do we see cool in 568 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: any of the cylinders? Okay, yeah, let's say that I 569 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: was going to go over to see them anyways. I 570 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure that I had some good 571 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: information that I could suggestions I could give them. Um, 572 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't actually I actually I flagged the 573 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: fact that the same was coming on a lot and 574 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: uh they ended up replacing some uh the fuse or 575 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: something like that. But you know this, this could be listen, 576 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: this could be a thermostat, This could be a restricted radiator. 577 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot, this could be. This could be missing. Well, 578 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: it could be you know, and listen. When the engine 579 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: comes up to operating temperature, it's some you know, pretty 580 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: base testing, you know, bringing up the operating temperature by 581 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: scan tool and temperature gage. Because we don't want to 582 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: just trust the car and you know, are both hoses warm? 583 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Are both hoses uncomfortable to the touch? Do we show 584 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: cool and flow? Do we show that we're actually doing 585 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do. And if that's the case, yeah, 586 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, if if it got good circulation and the 587 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: fans are working, I'm gonna think more along the lines 588 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: of a head gass at issue. Do the test I 589 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: told you, call me back, let me know what happens. 590 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: Zero run any of the Car Doctor coming back right 591 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: after this cuts welcome back. We're on any of the 592 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor winding it down this hour? Boy, that was 593 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Tom Quick Show today. Holy cow flu buck um. I 594 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's probably the highlight of my week really 595 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: being able to be here and talk to each and 596 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: every one of you and and solve the problem. You're 597 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna stay working with me? Well, Tom, listen, I gotta 598 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: tell you the highlight is you know you're part of that, buddy. Um. 599 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: You know what this radio sho wouldn't be what it 600 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: is without you, and it's it's just a great thing. 601 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: But look at the effect we have on people right 602 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: the You know, we're like our own community. And I 603 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: always think of community when we do the show and 604 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: when I read these from Mitchell one, the folks at 605 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: mitchell one dot com, they've got their own sense of 606 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: community over there called the sure track community. It's their 607 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: sure track fixes that they've documented and you can read these. 608 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: You go out to the Mitchell one dot com website 609 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: over on the right hand side, scrolled down and you 610 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: can go through all these fixes. And what it is 611 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: is it's a group of mechanics that have signed up 612 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: and they're all part of this blog community, so to speak, 613 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: and they share information. Here's one where they talked about 614 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: they recently had a Dodge Caliber and the group in 615 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: the air conditioning wasn't working, and they sat down to 616 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: talk about what things were done. They went through diagnostic steps, 617 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: what actually happened, how was it resolved, and they printed 618 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: it and they've actually got it up there on the website, 619 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: and I printed a copy of them sitting here looking 620 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: at it. I read these things from time to time, 621 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: and the answer was it came from a Richard c 622 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: where they talked about it being a broken wire coming 623 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: out of the totally integrated power module, a tip I'm 624 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: on a Chrysler. Look at the information that's available over 625 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: there at mitchell one dot com staggering all because of 626 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: community and the folks at mitchell one. Thanks to them, 627 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: I'm roning ad in the card Doctor, reminding you good 628 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let see you