1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Seahawks Stories, teaking you behind the scenes 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: with your favorite Seahawks. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Set back to Bey and Zorn, who's back to pass 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: as time looks for the left sideline, throws a bomb 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: down there. He's got a man in front. He makes 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: to grab a travel It's a thirty down to the twenty. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: They'll never get him. 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 3: He scores touched out. 9 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks powered by Seahawks Dot Com and. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Zorn later in perfectly a Rabel who goes in to 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: score on an eighty yard pass and run play. 12 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Now, here's your host, the voice of the Seahawks, Steve 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Raeball and Seahawks legend Jim Zorn. 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, welcome to Seahawks Story's glad to have you 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: back with us again today. Our guest, former Seahawk Great 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor member, along with James Zorn, here, the 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 4: one and only Jacob Green and Jake. 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 5: Let me just tell you right now, part. 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 4: Of my being able to do this gig was I 20 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 4: told him, I said, I'm not going to do it 21 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: unless you play that touchdown highlight from p Gross Because 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 4: you know, when you only have one highlight, you got 23 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: to play it over and over again. 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 6: That's not true. You had lots of highlights. 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 7: Right, well, Jake, you know you are our first defensive player. Guest. 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 6: Wow, thank you. Man. I feel I don't know, I 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 6: should I feel Oh no, no, should. 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 8: I just feel like you'll just let's just get it. 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 6: Let's get one end me in real quick. Yeah, that'd 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 6: be good. 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 8: That's right. 32 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 5: We'll go back to offense after that. 33 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 7: I think we need to feel really honored. 34 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so set the scene for us. Where 35 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: are you? Are you at home or you are you 36 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 5: back in the southeast in Houston? 37 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 8: No, I'm in down in Houston. I was, I was 38 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 8: in UH. I was in Houston. 39 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 6: UH. 40 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 8: I was in college station yesterday and so I'm actually 41 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 8: down in Houston UH today and I'll probably go back 42 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 8: to college station tonight. I'm working, man, I'm trying to 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 8: keep it, keep it going. 44 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: You know what you tell everybody what it is that 45 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: you're doing with Texas A and M these days. 46 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 5: You're Alma mater, by the way, Well. 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 8: What I right the break, What I really do is 48 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 8: I do fundraising for athletics, which is we you know 49 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 8: at Texas A, and we have three different foundations. We 50 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 8: have the twelve Man Foundation, which is for student athletes 51 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 8: anything dealing with building facilities and getting raising money for 52 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 8: student scholarships, every. 53 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 6: Sport down the board. 54 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 8: And what we do is at what the twelve Men 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 8: does is reach out to the aggie alarm and see 56 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 8: who's interested in helping our student athletes, whether it's ladies, soccer, 57 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 8: I mean it's. 58 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 9: Basketball, football, baseball, track. 59 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 8: And so I get a chance to see all these 60 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 8: kids and be around a bunch of them and just 61 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 8: you know, it's just just fun. 62 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 6: It seemed like, you know, Jank goes Man, you can 63 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 6: have a better job. You love going to work, don't 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 6: you go? Yeah, because I get a chance to do 65 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 6: a lot of different things. Jake is really good. 66 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 7: Jink, tell me this, what is the student athlete? What 67 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 7: do they want want these days that at Texas and 68 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 7: M has for them? Like, how do you compete with 69 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 7: other universities and what do you know that these student 70 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 7: athletes want or need to go. 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 8: To their Well since yeah, well since since since since 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 8: we've been in school, Gym Steve in college, it's totally changed. 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 8: But for most of our student athletes, I can say 74 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 8: all of them, you know, there's so much going on 75 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 8: for for a kid to go to college now, especially 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 8: in sports with that ni L deal, But before that 77 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 8: and now now you compete. 78 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 6: What our kids would like the most of what they 79 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 6: tell me they like the most. 80 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 8: Of course money, no, but they love having a place 81 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 8: where they can go and the environment is rich. It's 82 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 8: it's I mean as far as a as far as 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 8: things that you need, our facilities are are second to none, 84 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 8: you know, so there's no excuse for you know, for 85 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 8: us not to be one of the top universities as 86 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 8: far as work, our student athletes are, and just students 87 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 8: want to come because academics is high. I mean we 88 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 8: have I think our student body is close to eighty thousand. 89 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 6: For our students, it's a big university. Yeah, it's huge. 90 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 8: But more than anything, they like being able to do 91 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 8: it is a it's a small town now, but it's 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 8: really grown. Uh you got Houston, you got Dallas, You've 93 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 8: got San Antonio. So kids come from all over all 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 8: over the country just to come to Texas, A and M. 95 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 8: But I would say more than anything, it's the rich tradition, 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 8: the academics, uh, sports and and me dealing with sports, 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 8: our facilities, you know, that's what that's what we sell. 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 8: That's what we sell as A as as all our coaches. 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 8: I mean, you come to Texas A and N you're 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 8: gona get your degree and you're going to wind up 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 8: probably having a pretty good job. And if you go 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 8: out and play, whether it's football, basketball, or any other sports, 103 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 8: you'll always be a naggy. 104 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 6: And so those are some. 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 8: Of the things that you know that they sell our 106 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 8: kids on. 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 7: How many how many student athletes are? How many seats 108 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 7: do you have in your stadium that people enjoy college games? 109 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 6: Well, our last home game, which we played Alabama, we 110 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 6: had one. 111 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 8: Hundred and eight thousand in so that's yeah, Yeah, it 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 8: was one hundred and eight. So yeah, so yeah, it 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 8: was one hundred and eight. So and then's this week. Yeah, 114 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 8: we got South Carolina and we'll have one hundred plus 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 8: in there, probably one hundred and two hundred and three 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 8: right now. But yeah, it's pretty good. 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jake, you went there, you're you're in a love 118 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: of texts A and M. And for those that don't 119 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 4: know tech, Jake mentioned the twelfth Man. That tradition actually 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: goes back many many years of Texts A and M. 121 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: It became the twelfth man out here and then the 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: aventually just the twelves representing our fans. But it's the 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: twelfth man was always somebody out of the student body, 124 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 4: right who they would pull yeah out onto the field 125 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 4: and would help cover kicks or some crazy thing like that. 126 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 8: Well, the you know where it started raised was E. 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 6: King Gill, who was who. 128 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 8: Was the twelve man, And that's our highest honor you 129 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 8: can get at the E. King Gill Award for a 130 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 8: couple or individual at Texas A and M in sports, 131 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 8: I mean, and for the twelfth Man foundation. Wellke King Gill, 132 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 8: it was a game where I used to playing, and 133 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 8: they were down to if somebody else got hurt, this 134 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 8: guy was gonna come to. 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 6: This guy came down King Gill and he didn't have 136 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: to get in the game. 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, suited him up. Didn't have to get 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 8: in the game. And so he so he was that 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 8: twelve man, and so ever since then it's been the 140 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 8: twelfth man. Now, the thing you're talking about when when 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 8: Coach Slocum and Jackie Cheryl was at A and M, 142 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 8: they would have a they would have twelve guys on 143 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 8: the kickoff team to go down and tackle the opposing 144 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 8: teams on the kickoff. 145 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 6: So it was twelve, I mean it was eleven, uh student. 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 8: Athletes higher I can't even remember how many on defense 147 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 8: and offense. 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 7: I was going to ask it. I didn't know, how 149 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 7: did you get away with it? 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 8: So it was the eleven guys to my guys that 151 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 8: not on scholarship, just guys running down trying to hit somebody. 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 6: And then it. 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 8: Stopped because our coach, Coach Stokum, never really liked it. 154 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 6: Then we were we. 155 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 8: Were playing a game, and and and the thing about 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 8: it is those eleven guys really didn't travel with the 157 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 8: team when they're on the road. They would just do. 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: It at home. 159 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 8: And we got to we want went away from home 160 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 8: and those guys, you know, those guys. 161 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 6: Are not really used to covering. 162 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 8: Well, they ran the kickback and then so coach, they 163 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 8: stopped it. 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: And now there's only. 165 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 8: One guy that's out there. That's the twelfth guy that 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 8: who goes on the kickoff team and all the other 167 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 8: sports teams. 168 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 6: So that's where that's where it came from. So yeah, 169 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: that's the tradition. 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 8: All right. 171 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: Well yep, all right, So now you come out of 172 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: Texas A and m in nineteen eighty as a first 173 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: round draft choice for the Seattle Seahawks. That I think 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: I think I was going to say, I thought you 175 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: were the tenth pick overall when you were when you 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: were in that position, Uh, what kind of indication did 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: you have that you might be out here in Seattle? 178 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: And maybe even more so, what were your thoughts about 179 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: coming from you know, a kid from down in Texas 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: somewhere coming out here and playing, you know, in South Alaska. 181 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 6: Well, Ray, this is an honest truth, Jim, I might 182 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 6: have told you this before. Wait. 183 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: When I got drafted, my roommate was Curtised Sticky, and 184 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 8: he was he was the fifth player picked in the draft, 185 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 8: and he went to the coach. Okay, you know what 186 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 8: Baltimore is. You know everybody knows what Baltimore is. 187 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 6: Right. 188 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 8: So Karty's getting ready to walk out the door. There's 189 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 8: no ESPN like it is now, and I get a 190 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 8: phone call from uh, I think John was John Thompson, 191 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 8: and he goes, we made you our tech trick in 192 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 8: the draft and we watched it on TV and but 193 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 8: we didn't have a deal. It wasn't showing it like that. 194 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 8: And so he said, uh, can you catch a plane 195 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 8: out to Washington. Seattle Seahawks to me, I go, yeah, 196 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 8: And I told him can you hold one second? And 197 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 8: Curtis walking out does say, Dick, he man, I just 198 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 8: got to number ten. Hold on, I want to catch 199 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 8: you out to Houston, w So we go down to Houston. 200 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 6: Now I'm thinking I'm going to Washington. 201 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 5: Exactly. 202 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 7: I knew. 203 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 6: I'm thinking. 204 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 8: I said, oh, man, I'm going to and I got 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 8: out there, said god. I got out there and I said, 206 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 8: I said, wow, this don't look like DC. 207 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 6: And I swear to God, I did not know I 208 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 6: was in the state of Washington. Man, So cool. How 209 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 6: about that? 210 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 7: Hey, did you get drafted? Did you get drafted higher 211 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 7: than you expected? Or were you one of those that 212 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 7: felt like you should have been the first pick in 213 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 7: the first round. 214 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 8: No, I really didn't know, Jim, because I mean it 215 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 8: was I mean, I knew. 216 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 6: I mean, they started telling me. 217 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 8: I was gonna be in the first round, but you know, 218 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 8: but I didn't know where. And the teams that told 219 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 8: me they were going to draft me were picking of 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 8: thirteen and fourteen I think something like a fifteen and sixty. Yeah, 221 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 8: the Raiders and the forty nine of US were the 222 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 8: two teams that showed me interest when they say, hey, man, 223 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 8: we need a defensive lineman in And by the way, 224 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 8: they both drafted defensive linemans that year, and the Seahawks 225 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 8: were the seventeen pick and they traded with Buffalo and 226 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 8: moved up to ten. And because I remember Jack but 227 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 8: Terria coming into the East West All Star Game and 228 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 8: telling me to get up on the scale. But I 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 8: had no idea. I didn't know if I was going 230 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 8: to be one or twenty one. So but when ten came, 231 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 8: it was it was good though, good for you? 232 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And so now you have a great career 233 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: with the Seahawks. I had to go back and look 234 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: this up. Ninety seven and a half sacks for your career. 235 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's an incredible number, Jake. You what 236 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: what's the most proud you are of your career? Was 237 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: it the longevity? 238 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 8: Was it? 239 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 5: Your leadership was at the sacks? 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 8: What? 241 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 6: What was it? Well? 242 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 8: Right, wait, wait a minute, mate, you shunning me about yeah, 243 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 8: because yeah, because because well that's right. 244 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 6: Actually, now they did it. They added it. 245 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 8: Now they went back. Oh and now it's official. I 246 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 8: think it's one hundred and fifty sixteen. They had to 247 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 8: go back and look at Yeah, they wait, they went 248 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 8: back and they credited they thought they did. 249 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 7: Okay, so well it's one hundred and fifteen and change. 250 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 7: Because you don't get a full sack anymore, right, you 251 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 7: get a handy and you get a partial sack. 252 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: Right, And I start correct and. 253 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: I'm looking at it here online, and so they still 254 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: have it the old numbers. So we need to get 255 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 4: on to the folks who put these numbers on here 256 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: and tell them. 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 8: It's been yeah around there. Yeah, I get him upgrade 258 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 8: a little bit. But you know, I think the most 259 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 8: that you know, Steve and Jim, you guys played and 260 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 8: we played together, and I think more than anything is 261 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 8: I always wanted to be the perfect teammate. I never 262 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 8: wanted to be, you know, that guy bigger than the team. 263 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 8: I mean I would I would take and do be 264 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 8: the captain. You know, I'm the leadership bro. But I guess, 265 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 8: more than anything, it's just being able to play and 266 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 8: have a good career and meet people and and just 267 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 8: you know, and help the team for me more than 268 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 8: anything else. So I just you know, longevity was great 269 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 8: for me. I mean, uh, and played well so that's 270 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 8: I think. 271 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 6: That was more than anything for me. That's what I 272 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 6: want to do, Ravees. 273 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 7: You know, uh, all these and all these years, you 274 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 7: know he was talking about being a great team He 275 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 7: was a great teammate absolutely, and as far as helping, uh, 276 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 7: I even owe Jake an apology after all these years 277 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 7: in my whole life, because I just remember Jake always 278 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 7: trying to be a help. And one of the times 279 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 7: when we were leaving Cheenie, we were packing up and 280 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 7: he was helping us, Steve and I move out of 281 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 7: our dorm room and we were putting stuff in the 282 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 7: truck and I had I didn't do much at training camp. 283 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 7: I just did all my work. I studied, but I 284 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 7: built a cross section of a model ship at my desk, 285 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 7: just you know, when I had ten minutes, I put 286 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 7: something together and I had finished it. It was of 287 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 7: the HMS Victory and I left it in the last 288 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 7: thing I was going to bring out was this model ship. Well, Jake, 289 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 7: mister helps got the ship, brought it out, and I 290 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 7: kid you not, from the time he picked it up 291 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 7: in the dorm room and walked out to the truck, 292 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 7: he had broken it. Oh he and it was bent 293 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: the mask was kind of bent over. Well at that time, 294 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 7: I probably still am pretty immature, but I was really, 295 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 7: man sure, I had a whole pineapple that I was 296 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 7: taking home. I don't know where I got it. I 297 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 7: got it either from the cafeteria or somewhere. It was 298 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 7: a complete pineapple. And when I and Jake brings it out, 299 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 7: and he brings out the model and goes, z, man, 300 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 7: is this supposed. 301 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: To look like this? 302 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 7: And the you know, the mask was just broken down, 303 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 7: and I didn't say a word. I just I took 304 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 7: that pineapple and I just slammed it on the pavement 305 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 7: and it just blew up and it blew up over 306 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 7: all over his pants and he had had pineapple everywhere. 307 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 6: But Jim, Jim, no, this true story is Large. 308 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 5: As was the one that broke Oh did he really? 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 8: Yeah? 310 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: That's why I kept telling you Martin was the one 311 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: that had it. And and he just he just kind 312 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: of didn't say anything and just left. And Steve will 313 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: tell you right now, I didn't because I was wondering. 314 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 6: I took that pineapple and smashed it. Large was the 315 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 6: one that broke it. 316 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 7: I cannot believe that. And after all, tell you, man, 317 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 7: he is so decided all these years that that is 318 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 7: that's who broke it. Well, I now I owe you 319 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 7: a double apology, so you double apology on that. 320 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, did you play more? 321 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 7: You know, nowadays defensive ends play multiple positions. Did you 322 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 7: play inside at all? Or were you always on the edge? 323 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 6: A little bit? 324 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 8: But bit? But but most of the time I was outside, 325 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 8: and and if we felt like that there was a 326 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 8: mixed match and I could do something, you know, being 327 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 8: we would, But for the most part I was more 328 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 8: outside and then you know, on the left. 329 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 6: Side, and I did go over to the right a 330 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: little bit. But I mean we had a said, we 331 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: had such a good front with Joe. 332 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 8: Jeff and at the time we would bring uh huh, 333 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 8: you would bring up yeah, yeah right Joe, Yeah yeah, yeah. 334 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 8: Those are the. 335 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 6: Diehards, man. Those two guys were are awesome boy. 336 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 8: They I mean, you know, you you know, we we 337 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 8: ran together, and then we brought in Fred Young from 338 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 8: New Mexico and he made him the nickel guy, and 339 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 8: then Rufus Porter after that. So I mean we we 340 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 8: we played, you know, we had guys that could play 341 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 8: in the middle and in the outside, and then an 342 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 8: the other cool thing about what we did. We didn't 343 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 8: come out of the game. We have a seventy seventy 344 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 8: five plays a game, and that was you know, that's 345 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 8: just because we didn't want to come out, and it 346 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 8: was it didn't matter whun the pass. 347 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 6: We're gonna play every down, every time something play. 348 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 7: Did you like to play over a tight end or 349 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 7: a tick tackle? 350 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 8: Because if you play over the tight end, it takes 351 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 8: it takes you too much further out, you know. And 352 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 8: at times I had to because the tight end would 353 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 8: chip me, and so I would line up on the 354 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 8: tight end and then force him to go outside, go inside, 355 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 8: and then then I'd have more space to work on 356 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 8: the tackle. But if if I was if I was 357 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 8: on the tackle and the tight end was on my side, 358 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 8: you know, they chipped you, knock you off, you know, 359 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 8: kind of disrupt your pass rush. So yeah, so we 360 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 8: used we did some stuff to try and help us 361 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 8: out in some of those rushing rushing situations when we 362 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 8: knew they were going to throw the ball. 363 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, having been around from like z Man here 364 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: from day one, I've had a chance to see a 365 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: lot of obviously, all the players come through and the 366 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: combinations of players, And you know, the Legion of Boom 367 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: gets a great deal of credit and they deserve it 368 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: because they were there's as good as anybody that's played 369 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: the game. But when you talk about you guys, you three, 370 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 4: You and Jake, You and a Boogie, Jeff Bryant and 371 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: Joe Nash, what was it? What was it about the 372 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 4: chemistry of the three of you guys, besides the fact 373 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 4: that you didn't want to come out of the game, 374 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: But what was it that made you guys so darn 375 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: effective and literally are such an important part of the 376 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: Seahawks defense history that a lot of people may not 377 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: remember today. 378 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, but what we had was we we I 379 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 8: mean we did it. We did a lot together. I mean, 380 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 8: we hung out with ourselves, our families, and if there 381 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 8: was something going on, we were gonna make sure you 382 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 8: got right. I mean. 383 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 6: And when I say that, I mean I mean. 384 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 8: I wasn't the biggest out on our team, but I 385 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 8: wouldn't worry about nobody coming up to me and me 386 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 8: going up to somebody telling them, what do you really 387 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 8: need to do? Because you know I had you know, 388 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 8: Jeff and Joe was gonna be there for sure. 389 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 6: And then our team as a whole. 390 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 8: I mean we wanted to win. We played. 391 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 6: I mean we had some of the guys. 392 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 8: We had guys Dave Brown, Kenny Easily, John. 393 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 6: Harris was as good as a guy back in the secondary. 394 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 8: Back in the day. 395 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 6: And we had we had a lot of guys that 396 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: could play and and so but those. 397 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 8: Guys they covered and they made our jobs a lot easier. 398 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 8: I mean we had sixty five sacks in a three 399 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 8: man front one year, you know, which is you know 400 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 8: you're talking us working and so, but we were committed. 401 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 8: We trusted each other and we always had each other back. 402 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 8: And we had a really really great coach and Josh 403 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 8: Dye who really what we studied a lot together and 404 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 8: he made it fun so and not not to mention 405 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 8: Tom Catlan, now you know how good he was. He 406 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 8: could shut down any offense. So but but you got 407 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 8: guys like Easily back there who man was and Terry 408 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 8: Kenny Eaton might have been the you know, I'm telling 409 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 8: you he. 410 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 6: Was special. I mean he did it all, you know. 411 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 6: And and the thing that impressed me and you guys 412 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 6: are remember this. 413 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 8: We were getting ready to play and you remember. 414 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 6: When Kenny had to have arthroscopic surgery. 415 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 8: And and he didn't practice all right week and then 416 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 8: Saturday morning, I think Saturday morning he was he was 417 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 8: lining up to play, limping around. And that's what inspired everybody. 418 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 8: You know, guys like that, you know, you know that you. 419 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 7: Guys could you guys could play man coverage with these guys. 420 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 7: And when you did that, that made your job. I 421 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 7: mean the quarterback had to make a decision fast or 422 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 7: he was going to get hit. 423 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, you still get hit, yeah yeah, yeah. 424 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 7: So I remember trying to hurt qbs, did you, like you. 425 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 9: Know, wed guy? But now I probably have more more 426 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 9: personal fouls in the quarterback. 427 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 7: You could hit him, You could hit him in all 428 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 7: kinds of ways. 429 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 8: Back then you could hit him all kinds of ways. 430 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 6: God, now you can't. 431 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Jake, you know the Legion of Boom has 432 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 7: their nickname, but you, d Lynman, had your nickname as well. 433 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: And if you can believe this, I still have a 434 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 7: T shirt with your nickname on it. Can you believe 435 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 7: that the Diehards no brothers were he was he was 436 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 7: when burn when sunburn yep, my little son burn heartburn 437 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 7: heartburn hartbur and and and he's the. 438 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: One that started Mike Mike White was rock By he did. 439 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 6: And then. 440 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 5: I've got all those I've got those. Do you still 441 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: have a T shirt? All? 442 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 6: To god? I wish I had. 443 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: I have them. 444 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: I have them all. 445 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 7: Uh, I have all of them. And uh did Jeff 446 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 7: Bryant have a. 447 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 8: No, Jeff didn't have a burn. Because we started, we 448 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 8: were when Jeff and Joe came, we were the diehards. 449 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 8: Did Yeah, that's what that's when we start to die hard, 450 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 8: you know, and and the die hard I think, yeah, yeah, 451 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 8: Well it was because they always say it, uh, well 452 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 8: one of them are going to be starting, and we 453 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 8: always started every game, and it really was with Joe 454 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: and Jeff. Well not yeah, because jeffs was number one. 455 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 8: That Joe and then there was jab Ingils well you know, 456 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 8: but mostly Joe because Joe Joe was Boston College free 457 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 8: agent nos but went to the pro Bo. 458 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 6: And and it's ironic that. 459 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 8: The first one of the three of us that when 460 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 8: when we really when we left, was I was the 461 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: first one that leaves, you know, the finish I mean, 462 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 8: because that's when Flores came in and and it just 463 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 8: kind of changed for us. But in the baring that's 464 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 8: a different stuff. 465 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 6: Anyway, I was the first one to go to that 466 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 6: diehard group. 467 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 7: And uh and we were you know, yeah, so was 468 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 7: that a more but but you you were part of 469 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 7: the Burn Brothers and I still have all four. 470 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know, man, I love to have a 471 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 6: Burron brother t shirt. 472 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: I'll have to get him out of there. I got 473 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: him in a garbage bag. 474 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 6: I'm sure how did you come up with him? 475 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: I had never heard the one about Rugburn. 476 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I heart my wife Rugburn. 477 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: Heartburn, heartburn. He We used to have the same style 478 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: of clothes as our governor did, and she was not 479 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: happy about that. 480 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: I mean that was Remember she was out of practice 481 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 5: one day, she. 482 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: Was out of practice and somebody almost went. 483 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 5: Over tried to. 484 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: God. 485 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: Oh lord. Folks. 486 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 4: By the way, for you, those of you listening at home, 487 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 4: just know that you know we we we tend to 488 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 4: see each other on a semi regular basis of three 489 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: of us. 490 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: But this is what happens. When you get about thirty 491 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 5: minutes you can sit and talk. Let's let's move on, Jake. 492 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: As as your career wound down here, you you developed 493 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: a relationship in this town with the guy who kind 494 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: of taught me the business. 495 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 5: Pete Gross, you. 496 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: Both had a very real relationship with and and cancer 497 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: kind of brought you guys together, along with the fact 498 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: that Pete was just a great guy and interviewed everybody 499 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: great guy. 500 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, can you talk. 501 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: About that a little bit, and and how that came 502 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: about and your dad and and and and that whole connection. 503 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, well it's you know, it started well, you know, 504 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 8: and I lost my dad in the eighty four and 505 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 8: uh uh, and I never will forget it was a 506 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 8: playoff game and but but but this about Pete though, 507 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 8: This is what kind of got Pete was. And then 508 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 8: I'll tell you that Pete was the guy who after 509 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 8: a game where if you lost the game, he would 510 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 8: come in such a way that he made you feel 511 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 8: like you won and you put it all out. And 512 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 8: he was never that some guys I just you couldn't 513 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 8: talk to, You couldn't didn't want to talk to. But 514 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 8: Pete Gross was a guy you want to share everything with. 515 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 6: And and he and I had that bond at that time. 516 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 8: But when I lost my dad to cancer, uh and and. 517 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 6: I played in that game and Pete came and talked 518 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 6: to me after the game and he you know, and 519 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 6: we talked about it. 520 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 8: He said it was it was a playoff game in Raiders. 521 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 8: I'll never forget, you know. I was crying the whole game, 522 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 8: but playing and playing, and I think I had two 523 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 8: and a half sacks and just didn't realize what I 524 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 8: was doing. And I went back and watched the film 525 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 8: and it was probably one of the games that I'll 526 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 8: say was my best game I ever played. But Pete 527 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 8: saw me and we talked. And then when Pete got 528 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 8: ill with cancer and and gee, you were there and 529 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 8: we were on the field with him, and rave you 530 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 8: saw it, I mean, and and uh uh when he 531 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 8: went in he went in the ring, and I was 532 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 8: I think I had something. 533 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if I was. 534 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 8: I was at I was in Texas for something. I 535 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 8: couldn't be there when he went in the ring and 536 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 8: Bonna and he had cancer and we were talking and 537 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 8: he he he did his speech, and then I remember 538 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 8: him getting back out and said, oh I forgot. I 539 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 8: want to think of a good friend, Jacob Green. 540 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 6: And it was unbelievable. I just I remember that. I 541 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 6: remember that like it was yesterday. 542 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 8: And Bev and the girls, they were all out on 543 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 8: the field and so uh and then you know Pete, 544 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 8: Pete did so much and then as you know, you know, 545 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 8: that's that's when it all started. 546 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 6: And you know, the Pete Rose House and all the 547 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: rest of good things that you guys did. 548 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 8: You know, you and and and Steve is not I mean, 549 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 8: you guys are talking to me today, but we were 550 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 8: all a part of that thing with Pete. And you 551 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 8: guys have special relationships with him too. 552 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 553 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 7: But you kept something going, Jake, that and started it 554 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: and has you've kept something going even till today. And 555 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 7: you've raised so much money for Fred Hutch and you 556 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 7: know all that you do with your golf tournament, and 557 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 7: you probably do other things that I don't even know about. 558 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 6: Uh. 559 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 7: You just have that you have that knack, but you 560 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 7: also have that heart that you know, you you feel 561 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 7: so much and you remember those moments like you've just 562 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 7: expressed that our life changing. 563 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 6: Really yeah. 564 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, Well it's I've been I've been blessed and and 565 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 8: and we've all been blessed. And I think for the 566 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 8: most part is when you meet someone like that and 567 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 8: and it becomes a part of your family. Man, It's 568 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 8: it's so easy and and there's I have a room 569 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 8: in my house, and uh, it's a it's a it's 570 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 8: a Jacob Green room. And it's like these pictures of 571 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 8: me football and all that, you know, and the king 572 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 8: balls all in the room. And there's one other person. 573 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 8: He's the only other person, the only other person that 574 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 8: has a photo in that room to speak gross, how 575 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 8: about that? 576 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 6: How about that? Yep? Yep, we had that. 577 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: We had Yoda on was it last week? 578 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 6: Yep? 579 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 5: We had Steve on last week? 580 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 4: And I asked him about when he gave the jersey 581 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: after he caught his one hundred touchdown. He gave that 582 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 4: jersey to Pete, who was even at the time, you know, 583 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 4: having to get treatment for cancer. I mean we'd sit 584 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: up in the press box. He had a little a 585 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 4: little belt pack that they injected chemo into him while. 586 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 5: He was doing the games. 587 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 8: Wow, I didn't just. 588 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: And Steve had just some wonderful things, just like you, 589 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: just the wonderful memories of Pete. That's that's just such 590 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: a great tradition. And I'm glad he's with you two 591 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: guys up there in that ring because he certainly deserves, 592 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: deserves to be there. So now here we are today, 593 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: you get back here every once in a while. Jake, 594 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: we saw you last week. In fact, you got up 595 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 4: here for the for the game against the Arizona Cardinals. 596 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 6: Uh. 597 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 5: Family man, you and jan have been together forever. 598 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: Read your Sharon and I just celebrated. 599 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: Red is your son in law. He's got a Super 600 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 5: Bowl ring. You just I think you just said the 601 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 5: words that I think Z and I probably say most 602 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 5: every day too. You're blessed. It really has been pretty 603 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 5: good for a lot of us who came out of that, 604 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: those early years of the Seahawks. 605 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: And here we are all still talking about the Seahawks, 606 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: but talking about how great life has been for all 607 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: of us and how we hope we have added to 608 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: other people's lives. 609 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: Along the way. 610 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 6: Exactly. 611 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 8: You know, that's hey, it's you know, we we we've 612 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 8: been blessed. As I said, and and uh, you know, 613 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 8: I you know you mentioned my son already who Mary 614 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 8: Mola's daughters and now all three of my daughters, Jessica 615 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 8: and Jill were all married, I mean all uh born 616 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 8: in Seattle, and and and that's so that's that's been 617 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 8: our home, that's our second home. And we have so 618 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 8: many friends that that that that were there when we 619 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 8: were there, and some still there and and and when 620 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 8: I come back to uh to Seattle, it's always a 621 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 8: treat for me to be able to see the guys 622 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 8: that you know, like like you and and Jim and 623 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 8: and Edwin Bailey and some of the guys that I 624 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 8: see and and then you know, you think about the 625 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 8: times when we were all there and and the good times. 626 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 8: But the seahawkser, I tell you what, man, there is 627 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 8: such a solid organization that it's just I mean, there's 628 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 8: a there's a few great ones that you think about 629 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 8: when you when you think about franchises. You know, everybody 630 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 8: talk about the Lakers, Everybody talk about the Celtics, they 631 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 8: talk about the Raiders in the forty nine ers because 632 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 8: you know, but the Seahawks have some awesome, awesome I 633 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 8: tell you what were you and the Cowboys? We we 634 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 8: are We are right up there with them. It's the 635 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 8: way you treat your players and your fans and and 636 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 8: and I tell you what, man, our fans are unbelievable. 637 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 8: And I just enjoy being back and being around and 638 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 8: seeing the guys and seeing what you know, we tried 639 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 8: to help start and then watch these guys go out 640 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 8: and play now and it kind of reminds me of 641 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 8: a way of how we did it. 642 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 7: Jake, you come up here more than other alumni are 643 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 7: past Seahawks players, do uh? Because I see you all 644 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 7: the time. You look sharp too. Man, you are a 645 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 7: good looking dude. 646 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 6: Pretty well, you know, Man, you have to be from 647 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 6: sixty six being sixty six. 648 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, but you come up more. 649 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 7: How do you get up here that often? Knowing all 650 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 7: the responsibility you have at Texas A and M. 651 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: Well, that's a good thing about Texas A and M 652 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 6: is you know. 653 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 8: You know, it's funny. When I was hired to the 654 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 8: guy who hired me still started as one of my 655 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 8: really good friends. And he's not there anymore, but he 656 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 8: he never micro managed myself. And guys, the guy who 657 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 8: actually the CEO of twelve and now Travis Avenue were 658 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 8: doing the same thing. And Travis, I mean, I got 659 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 8: a beautiful office on campus and I love going in there, 660 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 8: but I'm never in there, and so when I go there, 661 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 8: people go like. 662 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 6: Well, oh, Jacob today, oh what are you doing here? Today? Said? 663 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 8: I can't raise money in my office, But on game 664 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 8: day Saturdays, I'm there and then maybe on Mondays. But 665 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 8: it's it's a it's a blessing. It's just it's fun 666 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 8: and and and and you know, it's it's just good. 667 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 8: It's it's uh, I can get up there. I have 668 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 8: they it's good. 669 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 6: I don't have to. 670 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 8: I can. 671 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 6: I'll say I'm heading the Seattle and they say, okay, 672 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 6: see you want to see us. 673 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 8: Okay, and and and like now you know I'm back 674 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 8: and uh we got game this weekend and uh so 675 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 8: you know, well I'm doing to I'm actually at one 676 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 8: of my donor's house right now. I just I pulled 677 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 8: up over here because I know he was outside by 678 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 8: the pool drinking the ultra light and I'm inside his house. 679 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 8: So we're just looking at the backyard. 680 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, just just kind of just kind of having a 681 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 6: good time, odd job. 682 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: Uh, while you try to raise money, Jake, while you're 683 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: looking at that pool and he's got that ultra light 684 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: in his hand. I want you to I want you 685 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: to tell us one more thing before we go. Picturing 686 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: yourself in Cheneie, Washington, early August, middle of the afternoon, 687 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: full gear, doing updowns. 688 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: What was going on your mind? 689 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 8: Tell me about those God, I was no when we 690 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 8: were over in Cheenie doing uptowns. 691 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 6: I'm like, wait a minute, with. 692 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: No water, with no water exactly, with no water. 693 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 8: But I knew something was wrong Raves when I got there. 694 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 8: So you know how you come to the rookie camp. Okay, 695 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 8: Well I always you know, I stayed in good shape. 696 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 8: You know I always stayed in good shape. This is 697 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 8: my rookie year. They draft me and I ain't. I 698 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 8: didn't even sign a contract. It's aid rookie camp. So 699 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 8: Jack Materia goes, We're going to show you this what 700 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 8: we do before practice. Jam come out here, and he said, uh, 701 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 8: he said up. Down. When I said down, you go 702 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 8: down to the truck. And then when I said back, 703 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 8: you get up and go on you back, And I 704 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 8: said okay. So he pulled me out in front of 705 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 8: the whole rookie squad because I was number one. 706 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 6: He'll get him up, you know how he was down 707 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 6: and I did about twenty five and then and then 708 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 6: he told me, he told me. 709 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 8: Get back in line, and then we did about another 710 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 8: twenty five moments. So he was trying to see if 711 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 8: I was really worth that one number one pick up. 712 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 6: And I did him all. But I'm telling you I 713 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 6: was like, what is going on? 714 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 7: And he always was around too. 715 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, he always had about fifty of those things. 716 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 7: And I think this is going to never end ever. 717 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, how was that? Yeah? 718 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 8: I guess, I guess, but Grant made him do it, 719 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 8: and I don't know somebody did that to him. 720 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 6: But what man? 721 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 8: That was? 722 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 6: That was brutal. 723 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 4: Ever since then, I've always lived by the saying what 724 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 725 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 5: And we all survived it. 726 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 8: So here we are. 727 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 6: Did you know we did? 728 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 7: And I would say that think about this, Jake, And 729 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 7: when you look at strength and conditioning coaches, now you 730 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 7: know they put you through all the you know, the 731 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 7: stretching and all that kind of stuff. We did extra genies, right, 732 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 7: and extra genies and up and down that's all we did. 733 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 7: And I will tell you after doing fifty updowns or so, 734 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 7: I felt. 735 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 6: Like I was ready to go. 736 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 7: I wanted to do something else for sure, but I 737 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 7: did not have to go into all the stretching and 738 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. Was everybody was warmed up. 739 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 8: If you if you try to up it, bozz wombed 740 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 8: up man. And so yeah, that's crazy. 741 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 6: So that was that was. 742 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 5: That was the old days. 743 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: That's and now it's all together different now and and 744 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 4: and good good on them, you know, it's I'm glad 745 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: because it's they're still successful. But you were one of 746 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 4: the guys, uh Jake, that that really put the Seahawks 747 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 4: on the map back in the day, you ze Yoda obviously. 748 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: So it is it is with great pleasure that you 749 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: are not only one of our earliest guests, but our 750 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: first defensive player on the Seahawks Stories podcast. We just 751 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: appreciate your time so much and and really love you 752 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 4: for all that you've done for the Seahawks and and 753 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 4: for so many charities in the in the in the country. 754 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 4: You're you're just a great man, my friend, and it's 755 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 4: a pleasure in order to know you. 756 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 6: Well. Thank you, guys, Thank you both well, both of 757 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 6: you guys. You know. 758 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 8: The one thing I want to say before we go, 759 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 8: as I remember when Heartburn told me, he. 760 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 10: Goes Jacob, he goes Steve Rabel is the fastest white boy, 761 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 10: all right. 762 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 6: He always said that he was fast. Man. 763 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 8: Thank you guys for having me man, I appreciate. 764 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 6: Okay, we'll see so here. 765 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 5: Thank you see another one another one in the books. 766 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: My friend with one of the literally one of the 767 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 4: great guys that that we've had a chance to know 768 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 4: over all these Thanks so much to all of you 769 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 4: for tuning in today on Seahawks Stories. 770 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 5: Glad you could be with us. 771 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: Lots more to come because we have a lot of 772 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 4: teammates we haven't talked to yet, so we're going to 773 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 4: get them on the air. 774 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 7: None of them are boring, and we can think of 775 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 7: guys we've just been talking about. 776 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 5: That's right, gosh, we'll have them all here. Thanks so much, everybody, 777 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 5: See you next time.