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Speaker 1: To be Around the NFL Podcast, He's never a man down.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a room filled of virtual heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Wrestling. What's up boys? Hey? Dan? What's somebody

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Speaker 1: he done? What a time? What a time to be alive?

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen, Flagship Show. It is getting real now we

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Speaker 1: are in it. It is the week before Christmas and

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Speaker 1: we had a wild day of games that, um, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make the last two weeks of the season a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. Um. We had a certain

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Speaker 1: winless team finally get off the schneide, and we'll discuss

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Speaker 1: whether that's a good or bad thing, of course, all subjective,

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Speaker 1: and um we'll talk about the Kansas City Chiefs who

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Speaker 1: continue to win, and maybe a Saints team that's taken

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Speaker 1: on water at the wrong time of the year. This

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Speaker 1: what are you thinking right now? Um? I thought the

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Speaker 1: afternoon games were as good, uh, like three games slate.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they probably have been some others. But

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Speaker 1: if you looked at it on paper and you're just

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Speaker 1: thinking this is one game, it's Chief Saints, which I

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Speaker 1: think had a lot to sink your teeth into. But

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Speaker 1: then the Eagles, Cardinals and Jets rams at the same time.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice It was a nice little entree

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Speaker 1: for the day. Where's your energy level at Let's pull

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Speaker 1: back the curtain as we record this, the Browns and

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Speaker 1: Giants getting ready to kick off. Mark Sessler, Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know I just heard Steve Kardoncki I believe his name

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Speaker 1: is on NBC. Let the audience know that the Browns

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Speaker 1: lose their out of the playoffs for the time being.

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Speaker 1: Where are you at right now? Take us through it? Well,

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Speaker 1: that would lead to nervousness. Um, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: the bank when it comes to Cleveland. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: pins and needles. Basically, you know, we'll get into it.

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Speaker 1: But so it felt like all the the whole a

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Speaker 1: f C playoff field held serve today, so that you

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Speaker 1: know there is added pressure. It's not like eight, Um

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Speaker 1: you know eight eight eight people that they're competing with crumbled.

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Speaker 1: They did the opposite, So take care of business against

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Speaker 1: the Giants team that, Um, it's not your equal. I

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Speaker 1: would I would assume on people, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. At the end of the podcast, Let's get

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Speaker 1: into all the games, starting with yes, a game that

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Speaker 1: could very well be a Super Bowl preview. Well if

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Speaker 1: the Saints can figure some things out. Let's dig in

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Speaker 1: sprint option action. Mahoks keeps it pitches in Lake bactr

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Speaker 1: Bell at this right sideline touchdown Kansas City sprint option.

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Speaker 1: It was Texas Tech pitching the Michigan State and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs get the coveted two possession lead on a thirteen

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Speaker 1: yard sprint option run and pitch by Mahomes. Barrel finishes

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Speaker 1: it off another great call by Mitch Holtis of w

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Speaker 1: d A. F Yes, Drew Brees returned to the line

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Speaker 1: of for the Saints, but it wasn't enough to topple

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Speaker 1: the Mighty Cheeks, who improved to and one with a

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Speaker 1: twenty nine win at the Superdome. Patrick Mahomes through three

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes, had that nifty little lateral to Levy on

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Speaker 1: And despite the New Orleans offense coming to late life

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Speaker 1: in the second half h there are still plenty of

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Speaker 1: reasons to be concerned. If you're Sean Payton. Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: came back west in this game, and he didn't look

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Speaker 1: For most of this game, yeah, I was a little worried.

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Speaker 1: From when beginning of fourth quarter, I was wondering who

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Speaker 1: Spice Tracts boy little Jordan Humphrey made a in appearance

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, pulled the Saints back into the game, made

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Speaker 1: a game out of it. But this was not an offense.

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Speaker 1: Just scared any team watching at home now. Michael Thomas

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Speaker 1: think it would just reminded me that my Homes is

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Speaker 1: but he's just like better because he had to make

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Speaker 1: bit of a pyric victory in the sense that Clyde

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Speaker 1: A lot of people were into that, But um, the

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Speaker 1: But that did not look good. That injury. It was

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Speaker 1: Now if you're not gonna have the rookie going forward,

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Speaker 1: I think you can't underestimate like how difficult and how

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Speaker 1: thoroughly entertained. I know, Mark, you say it's like an

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Speaker 1: On the way I thought my homes made like seven

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Speaker 1: hope that Drew Brees in the offense would be a

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to normalize what they do every week.

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Speaker 1: It's just that they faced great defense. At one point

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Speaker 1: you get a fumble and special teams. Saints now ten

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take a Christmas miracle for the Saints to

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Speaker 1: don't want to put this New Orleans team like in

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field, with this version of Drew Brees. That's a

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Speaker 1: huge setback not having home field advantage for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think I put we're stocking this than somebody like

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Speaker 1: that times two, two or three. And like you said, Greg,

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Speaker 1: and you know, maybe maybe you're right, Mark? Was your

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Speaker 1: was your comment that it's already decided that Chiefs are

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427
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Speaker 1: couple of years, did a run is almost a waste

428
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Speaker 1: of a play when you've got Patrick Mahomes And if

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Speaker 1: you're a Bills fan, I don't really want to see

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Speaker 1: a run. Zack Moss does not excite me at all,

431
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Speaker 1: not one bit. Does that guy excite me? Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: excites me, right, And you only need to run when

433
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Speaker 1: you need it. I mean, I don't think it's too

434
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Speaker 1: different from the first five years of the Patriots, you know,

435
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Speaker 1: two thousand tens, and they they used a run when

436
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Speaker 1: they needed to. Like that's what I loved about this game.

437
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: They ran the ball really well actually when they wanted

438
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: to run, which just they didn't bother because why would

439
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Speaker 1: you want to when you have Josh Allen, you had

440
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Speaker 1: Alan Moss and Singletary. I'll rip off a few runs

441
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: like they sprinkled it in here and there. But I

442
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: love when you have the lead and you just keep throwing. Also,

443
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: like like the mere threat of Allen on the ground,

444
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't run, is part of your running game.

445
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: Where if you had you know, Joe Flacco back there

446
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen, the defense is not going

447
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: to view you in the same way. I mean not

448
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: even within two universes of the same way. He's just

449
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: been so good this year. It's it's one of the

450
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: real storylines of this season where where Alan came from.

451
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Speaker 1: Think about where we were, and there's still playoffs to

452
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Speaker 1: be played, but where we were the conversations we're having

453
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: about him this year after that meltdown against the Texans

454
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Speaker 1: in the wild card round of the nine playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: now the guy looks like an absolutely a towering force.

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Speaker 1: All right. Now the Bills are the a f c

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Speaker 1: S champions. Congratulations to them. Let's now head to the

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Speaker 1: boy him of the division where something weird happened. It

459
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: is third down in six at the Rams forty eight

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Speaker 1: yard long. If the Jets get a first down on

461
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: this play, the game is over. They will have victory

462
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: formation on the other side of the two minute warning

463
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: waiting for them. Donald takes the snap, drops to throw,

464
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Speaker 1: dumps it over the middle. It's caught. It's the first down.

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore's got it. A big fist pump from Frank

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Speaker 1: or he knows it. That secures the first down and

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Speaker 1: that should secure the Jet victory. There he is. Bob

468
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: was schusing great played by play man completely absent on

469
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Speaker 1: this program this year because the Jets had never won

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Speaker 1: a game until now. Yes, Sam Donald dropped back found

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Speaker 1: all reliable Frankie Gore, who took the ball across that

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Speaker 1: first down market a clinch a win. Four guess the

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Speaker 1: Jets in the biggest upset of the season, at least

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Speaker 1: according to the Desert. With the win, the Jets avoid

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Speaker 1: becoming the third oh and sixteen team and under that history,

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Speaker 1: but also fall behind the Jaguars on tiebreaker in the

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence sweep steaks and we'll get to that in

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Speaker 1: a second. Greg, how did the Jets shock the Rams today?

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Speaker 1: How did this happen? By giving the ball to frank Gore?

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone would have been chopping at the end

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Speaker 1: of this game. Let's be real though obviously it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the key to the game, but when it came down

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Speaker 1: to it, you had to get a couple of first

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Speaker 1: downds to go win it. And and if they had

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Speaker 1: handed it to frank Gore giving it him the ball

486
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Speaker 1: five straight times like they did and it hadn't worked,

487
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Speaker 1: all anyone would be doing is killing Adam Gate. So

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed seeing, you know, my favorite player since we've

489
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: been doing this podcast, have an big eight yard run,

490
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Speaker 1: pick up a first down on the ground, and then

491
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Speaker 1: have that catch where he's just like calling Sammy, throw

492
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Speaker 1: me the ball and you could see and I watched

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Speaker 1: some of the interviews afterwards, you know, Donald said it

494
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: was an amazing feeling and Gore said, it's gonna be

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00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: a happy Christmas. Like these are all professionals, they mean,

496
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Speaker 1: it means a lot to them. It was mostly the

497
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: Jets defense, and it was I think if you're a

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Speaker 1: Jets fan, the best thing about this game is watching

499
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Speaker 1: quinnin Williams and Aaron Donald go back to back and

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Speaker 1: forth kind of as these game records. And quinnin Williams,

501
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: until he got concussion unfortunately or checked for a head injury,

502
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: was holding his own and was dominating and it was

503
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Speaker 1: a huge, huge part of this win. It really was

504
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: about their defense. It was that it's unbelievable the Rams

505
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: could not get anything going in the first half. The

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Speaker 1: Jets built a thirteen nothing lead. One one of the

507
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: weird stats of this season. The Jets have the worst

508
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Speaker 1: offense in football, but now they have eight straight games

509
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Speaker 1: where they've scored on their first possession. Go figure. They

510
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Speaker 1: get on the board first to put go seven nothing

511
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Speaker 1: on a Ty Johnson screen pass touchdown, and I think

512
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: that was huge because it it I think tightened up

513
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's like, oh, wait a second, could this

514
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Speaker 1: really happen? Is this happening? Is this happening? And even

515
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Speaker 1: though a couple of crazy things in the second half,

516
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: because you knew if you're if you follow this team,

517
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: the Jets all season, they've been in games at halftime,

518
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: and then the adjustments are made and Gates gets his

519
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: ass kicked in that department and the other team is

520
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: going away. And that's what happened again here the Rams

521
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: offense figured it out at halftime, came out at the half,

522
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: started putting up points, looked like they actually took this

523
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Speaker 1: took the lead on a cam Aker's touchdown, and we're

524
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: about to with the pH t called back on holding.

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Speaker 1: Then after the Jets three and out, they get the punt,

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Speaker 1: They get a punt, they nearly take it to the

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Speaker 1: house and the Jets uh punter And maybe it's an

528
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: infamous name now for Jets fans, depending where your perspective

529
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Speaker 1: is Brandon Man saves a go ahead touchdown for the

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Speaker 1: Rams on a punt return, and then the Jets are

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Speaker 1: able to somehow miraculously close it out. It's a brutal

532
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: loss for the Rams, who see their chances to win

533
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: the division take a crushing hit. Uh. And if if

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Speaker 1: you're a Jets fan, you're trying to figure out how

535
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: to make sense of this. Although it's kind of like

536
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: and in a way the past election we just had,

537
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: if you already had decided where you came down on

538
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Speaker 1: what the two options were here, you weren't going to

539
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: change your mind. Now. I've been in the camp of

540
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I hated this oh and sixteen thought. I thought it

541
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: was completely um unfair and terrible to think the only

542
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Speaker 1: way to get the number one overall pick is to

543
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Speaker 1: go oh in sixteen. So it was like there was

544
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: a no win situation. And then I thought to myself,

545
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: why are the Jets even in this position? The Jets

546
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: would still be a team that should have the number

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00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: one overall pick. Who's finished one in fifteen and didn't

548
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: get the number one overall pick. Well, in a non expension,

549
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: you're could be the New York Jets for the first

550
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Speaker 1: team Ever. According to NFL research, only one team did

551
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Speaker 1: not have the first overall pick after going one in fifteen.

552
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: It was the two thousand one Panthers. And that's because

553
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: the Texans came into the league as the expansion uh

554
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: UM team. And Mark that what that tells me and

555
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: West you say it all the time. History is instructive.

556
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: Minshew Mania Chicago Bears next week. Come on, get it done,

557
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: do it baby. The problem is you know, I mean,

558
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: if it's if this relies on the positive sort of

559
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: psychic connection between you and Gardner. Min too. I I

560
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: see a lot of problems and you're getting what you want.

561
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: But I'm with you that, I mean, I the hope

562
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: is you get out of here one in fifteen, you

563
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Speaker 1: get the first overall pick and you don't have the

564
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: stink of o N sixteen, which um having been through

565
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: it like, if the team gets good, no one talks

566
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: about that season anymore. So it has almost no effect

567
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: on me as a person fan wise. But I think

568
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: you and I might be in a little bit of

569
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: a different camp on that. And um, I would hate

570
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: to see them lose out on what is one of

571
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: the most exciting quarterback prospects of the last twenty years

572
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: because of Frank Gore and uh, you know Adam Gates.

573
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: But that said, I mean, let's see where it goes. Um.

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00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: I like Sean McVeigh I thought after the game, he said,

575
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: this is it's this is going to be embarrassing. Um.

576
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm sick to my stomach. And I do think that

577
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: that is about as rugged a loss as you could

578
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: take as an NFC or a f C contender to

579
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: fall to a team like this at this point in

580
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: the season, and the way they did in the whole thing,

581
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: and they've got to package this thing away and you

582
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: know they got West. They gotta bury that ball like

583
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Speaker 1: that's this is one of the weeks and the soft

584
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: l a you know, landscape, dig a hole, put the

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00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: ball in it, patch it up, move on. If you

586
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: want to take time out of your week to do that,

587
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: if you're even allowed to do that anymore, I'm not

588
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: sure what we were allowed to do anymore. Okay, I

589
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: don't think you can count on the Bears. This team's

590
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: averaging thirty one points a game since they're bye week

591
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: four weeks ago. They're a different offense right now. The

592
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: Bears are m all right, I'm not gonna necessarily pack

593
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: in my hopes because Mitch Drobiski has had a couple

594
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: of months. Yeah he never know. Jack's have been competitive

595
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: with some with some good teams, so it certainly wouldn't

596
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: be a total stunner. They are trending in the wrong way,

597
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: but so are the Ramps. I mean, the problem with

598
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: this Rams game is that it looked too similar to

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Speaker 1: a few others. So I think of the first half

600
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Speaker 1: there was a five drive sequence where uh, the Rams

601
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: had two total first downs and an interception. I mean

602
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams defense actually did everything they could

603
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: to keep them in this game. Uh. They basically shut

604
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: down Donald for a big chunk while while the Rams

605
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: offense is just handing the ball all over in perfect

606
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: scoring position. And it wasn't all on golf this time.

607
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: The offensive line for the Rams was really bad. Um,

608
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: And but that's a problem. You know, their interior line struggled.

609
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Maybe when wit Worth comes back that helps. I think

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00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: the defense is solid, but it's an offensive league. The

611
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Speaker 1: only thing I'd argue with you on dan On on

612
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: anything is that that this game was was devastating for

613
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Speaker 1: the Rams. Chances they went out they win the division,

614
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: So that was that was the same. That was the

615
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: same coming in because they have the tiebreaker on Seattle UM.

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00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: They obviously lose a margin for error here, but the

617
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: big game is next week. They got to regroup though.

618
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be losing to the Jets. I'm

619
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: not saying that's not embarrassing, but you you beat the

620
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Cardinals and you and you win

621
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Speaker 1: the division. I just I feel like with the Rams

622
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: that you know about ten minutes into a game which

623
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Speaker 1: version of the Rams you're gonna get and not every week,

624
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: but it just kind of feels that way. They're either

625
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: on or off, and I can't like there's a lot

626
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: of reasons to like the Rams. Do I trust that

627
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna get into the playoffs and destroy three people

628
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: in a row? Not at all, but proved me wrong.

629
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Speaker 1: Who who would you in the end? NFC? I guess

630
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: maybe the Packers, But you're right, Greg, Two things desert

631
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: stuff the Jets. Uh, we're seventeen points was the spread

632
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: of this game. It's the second largest upset win for

633
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Speaker 1: New York in the Super Bowl era. The only larger

634
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: upset was what West Super Bowl three correct, And if

635
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Bob was shusing for the first

636
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: time this season. Damn well, right, we're gonna hear from

637
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Keith Hands. His name is Keith. He'll get about what

638
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: he called say games he today, Well, the Jets upset

639
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: the Rams today with a great victory. But I have

640
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Speaker 1: to tell you, as one of the most die hard

641
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Speaker 1: Jet fans, today was one of the most difficult days

642
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: where actually at the very end, I was rooting against

643
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: my team, which I never do, so that to me

644
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: was very strange. But I'm happy to day one and

645
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens before the season ends. But that

646
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: was a new one for me. I mean, my dad

647
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: is not into any of that stuff like tanking and

648
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff. My dad is like tried and true

649
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: fan of his team. He turns them on to see

650
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: them win on Sunday. So for that to happen tells

651
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: you how strange and bizarre this was. Yes, I'm hoping

652
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: this garden Meanshu Karma is gonna come back, come back

653
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: to haunt me. Market you You are the exception. Dan,

654
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: By the way, it really feels like Jets fans truly

655
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: were If if internet polls are to believed. Jets ends

656
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: really did brute again. They're upset, They're they're they're totally

657
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: piste off. But one one last thought, we don't know.

658
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence could be amazing. Did Jets can get Trevor

659
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Lawrence still? But justin Fields could be better or whoever

660
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: could be better. There's this assumption that you're missing out

661
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: on Joe Montana. We don't know anything, So just try

662
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to live in the moment. I'm going alright, let's uh

663
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: move on. So we talked about what happened with the Bills,

664
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: uh and the Jets. Now let's swing over to a

665
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: former Jet and his Seattle Seahawks. Giving the ball off

666
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: to Hide. Did he breaks free inside the forty down

667
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: of the thirty, He's on the run twenty He's gonna

668
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: go in touchdown? Seahawks Steve rabel k i r Oh

669
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide ripped off a fifty r touchdown and the

670
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks season defense continued it's second half surge and a

671
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: win over the Washington football team. The victory, as we

672
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: know because we just heard, helps Seattle immensely in the

673
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: NFC West Race, and it also represents the clinching of

674
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: their ninth playoff birth and eleven seasons of Pete Carroll.

675
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: What a run, Greg. It felt like Watchington's defense was

676
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna make Seattle work in this one. That's what we

677
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: talked about heading into this game. Is that how it

678
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: played out? Yes, and no, you know, I played to type,

679
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: but it was also twenty three, you know, mid third quarter,

680
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: and it felt over. It was almost like the Seahawks

681
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: ran the ball too well, and I and I and

682
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: you feel this creeping in on this team that Pete

683
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Carroll is more comfortable focusing on the running game. Russell

684
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Wilson I think had about ninety something yards on his

685
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: first twenty dropbacks. If that they were they were really

686
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, playing good past defense. But Seattle was moving

687
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, they the Washington offense looked terrible.

688
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: The biggest surprise was that the Seahawks offensive line, I thought,

689
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: really controlled this game. You know, for the most part,

690
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: they protected Wilson well, and they controlled the game on

691
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the ground. But then suddenly Haskins puts two nice drives together,

692
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: gets the ball back even in the in the fourth quarter,

693
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: with the go with the chance to go win the game.

694
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: This is who the Washington football team kind of is.

695
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: Is that it looks ugly and you can say, all

696
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: this game looked over, it was a mispatch. Well, they

697
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: got the ball back with four minutes to go and

698
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: with a chance to win. And this is kind of

699
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: how Seattle is playing, where teams are playing tight to

700
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: them and Washington always finds a way to you know,

701
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: be in these games more than you expect them to.

702
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: It feels like a legit concern for the Seahawks to

703
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: they're winning now by playing opposite of the way they

704
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: were winning and in September and October when we thought

705
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: they were playing at their best and most imposing. And

706
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: like you said, Greg, it's trending in the direction we

707
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: don't want it to trend as far as our offense goes. Yeah,

708
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: it's weird, you know in this game specifically, you know,

709
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: he threw it twenty seven times for twenty one yards.

710
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: So like you you couldn't even kill them for you know,

711
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: running so much. It was more effective for a chunk

712
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: of the game. Uh, their offensive line I think is

713
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: better at doing that. You know, give Washington credit. They

714
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: always find a way to make a couple of plays,

715
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: whether it's in the red zone, or to force a

716
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: turnover to make it look closer uh than it felt.

717
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: But you're right at this Seattle team, like, how confident

718
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: are you, like Mark, like in them winning three straight

719
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: in the NFC. It's like, I don't know, Well, no,

720
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I think to you to your point before that, it's

721
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: hard to find any team in that conference, but Seattle's

722
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: they're freaky enough that, um, I've seen them do it before.

723
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: They've got a little they can get a little magical.

724
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: But I mean when you have dk Metcalf and Tyler

725
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: Lockett combining for less than eighty yards, Um, that's getting

726
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: to West's point. I think we're getting away from what

727
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: built trust, in my opinion, in their explosiveness and their

728
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: ability to win shootouts. I don't know if Carlos hide

729
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: is what you're anchoring the efforts around heading into imposed

730
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: Christmas part of the season. Here, this does guarantee, by

731
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: the way, that no NFC e's team um leaves the

732
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: regular season with a winning record, which I feel like,

733
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, it was a safe game, but yeah, I

734
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: feel like that's ultimately what's gonna you know, cost Washington

735
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: right that their offense a stat flashed up before they

736
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: woke up in the second half when they kind of

737
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: went back to over the last two games, and the

738
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: offensive output had just been grizzly. Um as good as

739
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: frisky as this defense is, they're gonna muck up games

740
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: like this and hang around and steal one occasionally, but

741
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: they just need to get better on offense. Well, Haskins

742
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I thought was a step down even from Alex Smith,

743
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: although Alex Smith was taken on water and I think

744
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: was struggling more each week that he played. Haskins struggled,

745
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: made some pretty bad decisions. They were struggling to pass

746
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: the ball. But then he puts together two nice you know,

747
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: he put two nice drives late. DJ Reid looked like

748
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Darrell Reevs for the Seahawks in the defensive backfield. So

749
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: they put together some nice games. But if the Seahawks

750
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: offense is struggling, you get the Rams next week. That

751
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: is a prime kind of playoff get ready test? All right,

752
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: let's move move on and check in on another NFC

753
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: playoff hopeful. In fact, two of them. Two seconds to go,

754
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals lead by seven, wall on the Cardinal thirty one

755
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: Eagles out of time outs hurts in the gun play

756
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: clock at one snapped, the Hurts rolls to his lap.

757
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Hurts lobs at the middle of the end zone. Four

758
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: guys down their passes knocked the way in complete. Cardinals

759
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: win Byron Murphy got a piece of it. Cardinals get

760
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: their eighth win. They hang on to beat the Eagles

761
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: thirty three to twenty six, and they can start to

762
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: smell the postseason. But it wasn't easy, was it. You know, Ron,

763
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: we we cut these highlights. One of the reasons we doom.

764
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: It's for you, Wolf. We want you to bring up,

765
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: bring us something real interesting. Comments to that end of

766
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: the call. We didn't get it today, but there's always

767
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: next week. K c Are with the call. Dave Pash

768
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: also there. Jalen Hurts played valiantly, but his last second

769
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: hell Mary fell incomplete, clinching the six win for the Cardinals.

770
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: Hurts was the focus on Football Twitter in this one,

771
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: but Kyler Murray returned to game wrecking forum. Uh, and

772
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: that's a big storyline going forward. Mark, This is a

773
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: fun one between two exciting young quarterbacks. Yeah, this kind

774
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: of reminded me back in the day when you know,

775
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: we'd be sitting at our desk um, you know, banging

776
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: out these what we learned, and I was like thinking,

777
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: if I had to write one on this game, I

778
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: would have been, um quite annoyed because it was a

779
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: game with like forty five different, um incredible things that happened.

780
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: I would really suggest someone check this out on game

781
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: pass um for the quarterback. These two Oklahoma quarterbacks going

782
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: back and forth, they made their share of mistakes, both

783
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: of them. But I mean Kyler Murray, UM, I don't

784
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: think that his game to me looks like his box

785
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: score where he threw for four and six yards, but

786
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: he kept producing. That's four touchdowns. Jalen Hurts will be

787
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: the talk of the week because we've got the morning

788
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: beginning with reports that Carson Wentz doesn't want to be

789
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback to Alon Hurts or anyone else in Philadelphia. UM.

790
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: So then it's like, will we see once again this

791
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: season or ever Hurts comes in today and I just

792
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: again brings total life to this offense. A week after

793
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: he ran for a hundred yards UM. He accounted for

794
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: four touchdowns today, which something that Carson Wentz has not

795
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: done since the beginning of the eighteen season. All I

796
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: can say is guys like um, zach ertz uh, Greg Ward,

797
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: all these all these other players on the offensetead have

798
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: been ghosts and traveling um like another world for so

799
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: much of the season are involved now and it was

800
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: it was a fascinating game for that reason. And it

801
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: was Um the Eagles lost their punter. Excuse me, there

802
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: were like four or five scenarios where they kept going

803
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: forward on fourth down. Was like, what are they doing?

804
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Like five other things were happening during this game, and

805
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: they lost their punter and their and he he serves

806
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: as their holder as well. So Doug Peterson just trusted

807
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Hurts to go forward on fourth and six, um, and

808
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: in a couple other situations, and he kept delivering. I

809
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: mean again, he made a few mistakes here and there,

810
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: but this was, um, sort of me a quarterback situation,

811
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback duel that would not have happened ten years ago.

812
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't think either one of these guys would have

813
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: been put into this situation or even have been developed

814
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: the same way that they are now. And um, you know,

815
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Hurts went through a lot in college. Um, his future

816
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: appears very bright, and part of me wonders, I think

817
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: a lot's gonna happen with the Eagles. Part of me

818
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: wonders if he could even save Doug Peterson's job because

819
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson has looked a little bit more flexible and

820
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: a little bit better, um during all this with Hurts

821
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: in there doing what he's doing, so UM, you know,

822
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I think it just leaves the Eagles with immense, immense questions, um,

823
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, in whispers between now and the rest of

824
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: the of the of the season and then into a

825
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: very huge offseason and the in the Cardinals, Um, if

826
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: they get in, they deserve it. They're they're just enough.

827
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was amazing in the fourth quarter in this game. Uh.

828
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Their defense is not the greatest on the planet, but

829
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: they disrupt, they caused turnovers. Hassan Reddick had another huge

830
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: game today. It seems to be two or three p

831
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: popping up on that defense every week in Arizona. That

832
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: that report before the game. Sometimes I think these agents,

833
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: who I'm I'm just gonna assume it's coming from you know,

834
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: you don't know, but it's either an agent or the

835
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: player that's saying that he's not happy. I think they're

836
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: doing a disservice, you know, to their client. You know

837
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: they're they're putting it out there that well, it makes

838
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: him looks sort of petty, doesn't that he's not happy

839
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: and a how about you go watch your teammates play

840
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: a thousand times better without you, because that's gonna hurt

841
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: your value a lot more than your agent putting your

842
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: value out there to get some team's interests. I'm not

843
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: saying he wouldn't have interests or that his career is over,

844
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: but let's just look at it. I'm not sure if

845
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: Hurts can save Peterson, if that is the direction they're going,

846
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: if Peterson is the one that was was pushing to

847
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: keep went in the lineup, because if anything, it looks

848
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: like he wasted a lot of time wasting so long

849
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: with the dead quarterback when he had hurt sitting there.

850
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: I saw you tweet about that too. I gotta push

851
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: back on that one, Greg. I just I think it's

852
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: so easy to to say that now because Hurts is

853
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: coming and and he was okay last week and he

854
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: was really good today. But again, it's that bigger picture

855
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: of what Wentz was and what he represented entering this season,

856
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: and the head coach that had loyalty to his starter

857
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: for the past three years and was kind of waiting

858
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: for that guy to come back, and he just never did.

859
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: And it it's submarine their season in a lot of ways.

860
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: But it was to me like one of those football

861
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: things that it just happens like and there's no way

862
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: to explain it. If you would ask a hundred of

863
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: the smartest people in the football world entering this season,

864
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: nobody would have thought Carson Wentz would have had the

865
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: season he had. And Peterson is in a very difficult

866
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: position of navigating that in real time. So if you

867
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: you're saying he should have put him in three weeks

868
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: before he did, all right, But I guess these decisions

869
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: don't get made in a vacuum. They're they're bigger than

870
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: just um, you know, stats, And in that situation specifically,

871
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: Monty play such a huge part of it, more than

872
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: most quarterback controversies because it's hard for the Eagles to

873
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: get rid of Carson Wentz after this year, trade, release,

874
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: what have you. It's just hard for him. So so

875
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: if you're the head coach, you gotta you gotta try

876
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: to make it work. You do. It's it's just that

877
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: he was so lost and and Peterson used the reason

878
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: that they're trying to win the division and that going

879
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: to the backup is like, you know, sending a message.

880
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: They're given up. Well, guess what they're by far? You know,

881
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: they're two best offensive games of the year by far,

882
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: are since they benchent Wentz by the way, they're not

883
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: out of this NFC East race. I know that sounds crazy,

884
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: but they play the Cowboys in Washington. So if you

885
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: win those two games, all you need is Washington to

886
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: lose next week against Carolina. Like you, you don't need

887
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: that much to happen. If they can win those two games,

888
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: they actually have a little bit of life. If they

889
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: hadn't come into this game losing three defensive back starters

890
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: their best three, on top of another offensive line like

891
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: who you know? Who knows? This guy could just put

892
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: up three thirty eight and three passing sixty three running

893
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just saying it's not as good

894
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: as it gets. We've talked about that Eagles Washington game

895
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: is potentially the prime time Sunday night affair in week seventeen,

896
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: which had people would have boss it's a month ago.

897
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: It makes it just makes more sense now than ever before. Shockingly,

898
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Al Michael is gonna be like, I'm gonna take another

899
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: week off just to be safe. You got this one, Mike.

900
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Another big game with huge implications for

901
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: the playoff race in the NFC went down in Minneapolis.

902
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Staff back to Kirk Cousins. He's moving, he's launching, he's

903
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: going into the end zone, and I'm a pass He's

904
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: battered away in the end zone. Sherrick Mpannis, Bears, British

905
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: to deal. They take one in Minnesota. Fade too black,

906
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: You're still alive. It's seven and seven had a thirty

907
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: three twenty seven win over Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings.

908
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: Jeff jon Yacht with the called w BBM. See, like,

909
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: of all the things, a five and one start gives

910
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: you so much rope that you can completely collapse for

911
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: most of the season that follows, and then you get

912
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: a hot a little bit, and all of a sudden,

913
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: here we are right in the middle of everything. The

914
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Bears are. Kirk Cousins threw up a prayer, but there

915
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: would be no Christmas miracle for the Vikings became the

916
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: latest team to feel the pain of Mitch Trabinsky and

917
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: the resurgent Monsters of the Midway Bears thirty three, Vikings

918
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Yes it was a loser goes home match

919
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: and it was the Vikings who say goodbye to relevance

920
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL for another year. Greg, is something special

921
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: happening in the Windy City? What exactly what's happening here?

922
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: I don't know about special, but the intonation and uh

923
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: in our play by play man's voice forgetting the name

924
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: just told me everything I want to know. Like they're

925
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: getting back on the Mitch train, like they're excepting, they're

926
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: getting into this. This game had everything I wanted from

927
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: like a week fifteen game with two flawed teams need

928
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: to eliminate the other and like all this backstories. At

929
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: one point, the Bears had scored sixth straight times, sixth

930
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: straight possessions, and I was about to like I had

931
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: a tweet already. It's like, if you give up seven

932
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: straight scores to the Bears, like you have to take

933
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the season off. But at that very moment,

934
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: they intercepted Mitchell Robinsky when the in the red zone

935
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: in the end zone, when the game looked absolutely over,

936
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: so for the ending, so for the ending to go

937
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: Mitchell interception, then the Vikings can't pick up a third

938
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: and one or a fourth and one with Cousins back

939
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: pedaling uh to ever forever. And then then Naggie doesn't

940
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: trust Mitch at all, doesn't let him even throw a pass,

941
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: just says, oh, you know, we're gonna just kick a

942
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: field goal, like we don't even want Mitch to throw

943
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: another pass. You try to go score a touchdown. And

944
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: then Cousins setting up for a hail Mary and throwing

945
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: these short passes, and it's tough with only a minute

946
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: left and no time out. But after the game he said,

947
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: our entire goal was to set up for that for

948
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: a hail mary, and and we got to that. And

949
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: sometimes Kirk Cousin says these things after the games, and

950
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: and and I don't say that, Wait, what what are

951
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: you talking about? There's fifty five seconds. That was your

952
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: your whole goal. You got the ball at the thirty.

953
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: You only moved at twenty yard like you only that

954
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: that was your goal. I don't get it that this

955
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Vikings team deserves to go by by the one thing

956
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: that really impresses me with the Bears um and if

957
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: you go back to the when they were falling off

958
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: that five and one record into um, a total pit.

959
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: They had huge Corona issues along their offensive line. They

960
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: had injuries along the line, and it sounds like, um,

961
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: from some stuff I read today that David Montgomery, who, um,

962
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: we're finding out what kind of running back he can be.

963
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Because you know how many um weeks and months in

964
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: a row did we hear from the Bears. We the

965
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: run game matters to us. We want to establish the

966
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: run game. Then they go run for thirty one yards

967
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, please, um, shoot an arrow into my

968
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: head if I hear that one more time from Matt Maggie.

969
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: But here comes Bill Laser, here comes some combination of

970
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: new play calling. And I think the line today sounded

971
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: like they were pretty dominant against the Vikings and it

972
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: opened up big holes from Montgomery and this is sort

973
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: of closer to what the Bears have been advertising to us.

974
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Is it sustainable? Um, I'd be concerned if you if this,

975
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: if we get too much it's too excited about this

976
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: and keep all the parts in place. But um, it's not.

977
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: They're not boring at least. I mean, that's sort of

978
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: what when we're killing the Bears It's not just that

979
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: we want them to lose. I'm tired of the Bears

980
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: being um an eyesore and they are not over the

981
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: last month, Mitch was your guy. You're getting back in no.

982
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: But for a quarter of the season now, David Montgomery

983
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: has averaged a hundred and forty four yards from from

984
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: scrimmage and a touchdown in a half per game. M

985
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: That is getting it done. That's huge they did. He

986
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: did have the open holes. He ran great. Mitchell ran great.

987
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: That was exactly what m. Zimmer mentioned coming out a

988
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: half time is that we need to shut down Trabinsky's legs,

989
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: which really did create a lot on third done. He

990
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: Mitt Rabinsky. You know, they only asked him to do

991
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: so much. He only about twenty one throws here. Um,

992
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: but he until that interception, and then he always leaves

993
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: you with something. Until that interception. He played terrific. I mean,

994
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: he he was accurate. He Mooney and Robinson are a

995
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: great one to my boy, Darryl Mooney out of two lane,

996
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: looking like a real keeper. Like they're they're not bad.

997
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna get to that Week seven team game. I

998
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: think they're gonna beat the Jaguars. I think they're gonna

999
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: get that to that week seventeen game alive. They don't

1000
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: need some help. They they punched it on their first

1001
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: drive and then they scored every other drive until that interception.

1002
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: And it's just, um, it's the unpredictable, unpretictability of sports

1003
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: and of the NFL that you know, if this Mitchell

1004
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: Drabinsky saga ends with his fourth season being this like

1005
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: crazy ride to take a playoff spot, I don't know

1006
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: what that does, and there's no sense really speculating on

1007
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: it because it can all go to hell next week.

1008
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: We've seen enough bad tape from Mitchell Drobisky know not

1009
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: to put too much faith in him. But it would

1010
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: be kind of fitting if this this kind of crazy

1011
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: soap opera around the Bears and and what happened on

1012
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: draft Day and then giving up on him entirely, not

1013
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: picking up the option, and then saying Nick Foles, we

1014
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: want you to save us. I mean, you could, I

1015
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: guess say, and I know Trabisky had a shoulder injury

1016
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: in there somewhere, Greg, but you could I guess say that, uh,

1017
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: Naggie maybe would have been better having less loyalty for

1018
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: Nick Foles and getting Mitch in there sooner the way

1019
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: he's playing right now. The Bears fans have certainly said

1020
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: that Travisky is a free agent. They didn't pick up

1021
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: the fifth year option. Um just knowing this ownership, though,

1022
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: I think if they want out, I think I think

1023
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: that would save Naggie's job. You know, if they beat

1024
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: the Packers, there's no way they're firing Matt Naggie. Now

1025
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: what they do with Trabisky, that'd be a little harder

1026
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: to figure out. I also think I just wouldn't be

1027
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: shocked if Kirk Cousins names comes up this offseason. We

1028
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: don't need to get into that conversation now, But this,

1029
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: to me was like the opposite of the Mahomes game,

1030
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: where Mahomes to me looks so much better than the

1031
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: box score showed. This was a Cousins did not look

1032
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: as good as the box score showed. He did not

1033
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: play his best game here, alright, So Cargo, they keep

1034
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: themselves in the mix. Minnesota, Bye bye, And now the

1035
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers they look to solidify their playoffs standings.

1036
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Here's what went down in Atlanta. Transition prop looks off.

1037
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: Heel wants all of the tose told together kind a

1038
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: receiver all with hitch that Tonio Brown touchedtop Champa Bay

1039
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: Buckingers take the lead for the first time of the

1040
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: game and Brown has his first touchdown is a Bucaneer.

1041
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: Jane knocker Off w f U s with the call God,

1042
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: I love that guy. I want Chris Westling to write it.

1043
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: This is what I want. I want Chris Westling to

1044
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: write a book one day, okay, and I want west

1045
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: to be like, I put so much time into this book.

1046
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the voice over too. I'm not doing

1047
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: the audio book. Found somebody else and then I'll say

1048
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: we'll get Jean decker Off to do the Chris Westling memoirs.

1049
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: What do you think? Wes A final choice you could

1050
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: not make. Tom Brady connected with Antonio Brown on the

1051
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter, leading the Bucks

1052
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: to win over the Falcons. That moves Tampa Bay to

1053
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: the doorstep of a playoff. Berth Um They're nine and five.

1054
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: The Brady the Brown connection marked the fifth consecutive scoring

1055
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: drive for Tampa Bay and Um in the in the

1056
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: second half. They entered halftime trailing seventeen nothing and it

1057
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: was as bad as it looked not only was the

1058
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: offense doing that thing that it does on occasion this

1059
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: season where you know, Tom Brady looks at a swords

1060
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: and they somehow despite all these weapons, we're not seeing

1061
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: a lot of separation, and it's just like, uh, they

1062
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: can not getting the running game going. It's just like,

1063
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And then a flip got switched

1064
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: and they scored on five straight possessions after halftime, four

1065
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns and a field goal, and so they were down

1066
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: seventeen zip. They come out of the locker room, uh,

1067
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: and they score a touchdown, and then the defense let's

1068
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: down and gives up a touch on right back to

1069
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, who played well, really well for most of

1070
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: this game. So it's back to a seventeen point deficit

1071
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: a few minutes into the third quarter, and then the

1072
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: Bucks kind of took control of the game from that point.

1073
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: Atlanta failed to pick up a first down on four

1074
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: of its last five possessions, UH, the only exception being

1075
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: a drive that ended with Young Hoku Young hokus fifty

1076
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: two yard field goal with a twenty two that gave

1077
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: the Falcons lead. But then Antonio Brown made the first

1078
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: big play of his Buck's career, so you know it's

1079
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: a game that you'll watch it. In the first half

1080
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: you would be like, oh, the Bucks are an afterthought

1081
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: when you talk about who are the real Super Bowl teams?

1082
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: And then you'll watch the second half in bag Okay,

1083
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: I mean you could. You can see it. You can

1084
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: see if if some if they just if they flipped

1085
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: the switch again and they got hot, like the way

1086
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: the Bills are now and the way they were in October,

1087
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: maybe they would be a tough out in January. You

1088
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: got both sides of the coin today in Atlanta. I

1089
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: give them credit for being like consistently inconsistent or like

1090
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: consistently streaky, because it seems like, um, every game, can

1091
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: you can pick two quarters you know what they'll be,

1092
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: but they'll go to sleep and then there'll be another

1093
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: two quarters where you get this. I think I tweeted

1094
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: out at halftime like the Buccaneers are boring because I

1095
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: feel that's the way I feel when I watch them

1096
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: when they're when the light switches off. But then they

1097
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: make you look like a fool two hours later, and

1098
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: so I I am completely flummixed and have no idea

1099
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: what to make of this team or what its destiny

1100
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: will be. I mean, is it the some of its

1101
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: parts on offense? No, sometimes it was the second half,

1102
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: it was sometime half. Yeah, I mean it's they're not

1103
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: I think you put it well, consistently inconsistent. That's not

1104
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: usually what gets you Super Bowl victories. But it was

1105
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: enough to beat the Falcons today. Well, they're boom or

1106
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: bust on both sides. You know, even the defense is

1107
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: boom or bust. So it just leads to a lot

1108
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: of variants where they go on these streaks. It's been

1109
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: that way since like since week two, really even week one,

1110
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: like they have been that team. You're right, mark every

1111
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: step of the way. Um, but for Falcons fans to

1112
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: watch Tom Brady come back on you, I mean we

1113
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I know it's and these comebacks feel like they happen

1114
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, this is the biggest Bucks comeback

1115
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: since and uh, to watch Tom Brady come back like

1116
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 1: that while you still got the old you got Matt

1117
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: Ryan back there going you know, three and out punt

1118
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: negative six yards, three and out, you get a field goal, drive,

1119
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: another three and out and then four and out downs

1120
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: game over. I mean, as if these Falcons fans haven't

1121
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: been through enough. It's another kick in the groin. Why

1122
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: they why they rank high in the pain ranking. Well,

1123
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: if they're still watching these then they're put setting themselves

1124
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: up for this disappointment. But you know, there are things

1125
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: you could be doing outside, um, you know, walk around

1126
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: your town. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, Raheem Morris is

1127
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: not keeping this job. And and Matt Ryan is another

1128
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: interesting figure as you look ahead to the NFL and

1129
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: some of these veteran quarterbacks potentially at a crossroads. He

1130
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: was thirty four or forty nine, three fifty six yards,

1131
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, this without Julio Jones, who missed another game

1132
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: with that hamstring. But in kind of true Matt Ryan

1133
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: form and not to call back to again, but after

1134
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: he connects with Hayden Hursts for a seven yard touchdown,

1135
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: uh in the third quarter, it was basically lights out

1136
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: for the offense. It's just like a switch got flipped

1137
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: for them too, or more like somebody pulled a you know,

1138
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: a cord out of the wall and shut the whole

1139
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: operation down. So, you know, good good for the Bucks.

1140
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: That would have been a bad long u this time

1141
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: of year. So that the fact that they were able

1142
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: to turn it on. Good for them. But at the

1143
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: same time, if you're a Bucks fan and I know

1144
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: I know one, uh my buddy Shellin, he's he's been

1145
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: up and down all season with his emotions about the team,

1146
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: and he's not alone. They're They're a hard team to

1147
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of figure and a tough team to love. Quite frankly,

1148
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: young Way Cou deserves better. He's an All Pro second team.

1149
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody you know, just the Tuckers

1150
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: number first team. But young Way Cou deserves it. He's

1151
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: been automatic all right, Uh, let's move to it intra

1152
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: conference game. I don't know why. Fake Tannehill deep drop,

1153
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: looking deep, throwing deep going for Davis. Davis has got

1154
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: it at the thirty, at the puts on the move

1155
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: to the tan, another move to the five. Okay, d

1156
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 1: c d seventy five yards churchdown Titans prey Davis too?

1157
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: Is intra Did anyone never decide this? We don't know.

1158
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: I can never figure it out. It's never Yeah, it's

1159
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: never gonna stick with me. I always say, out of

1160
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: conference the publice. There's nowhere else in life where I

1161
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: need to know. The definitive conference is definitely inside the

1162
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: conference intro. That's inside cross conference across. That's a conference game.

1163
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Why say intra conference? Just say conference because sometimes with

1164
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: the language it's it's just wanting to have the victory

1165
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: and one day the victory will be mine. What about

1166
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: a FNFC crawl pollination tilt uh, Mike Keith and Dave

1167
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: Beginnis with the called w g F X. Ryan Tannhill

1168
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: ran for two touchdowns, he threw three more UM and

1169
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry ran for a hundred forty seven yards at

1170
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: a score to move the Titans closer to the third

1171
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: playoff season in four years. They route the lines, Mark

1172
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: Henry gets the pub and he deserves it, and he's

1173
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: still two thousand yards is there for the taking if

1174
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: he delivers a couple more games like this. But Ryan

1175
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: Tannhill has been nothing short of brilliant in his two

1176
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: seasons in Nashville. Thank you that That was my takeaway.

1177
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: And I really just enjoy watching the Titans and who

1178
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: they are on offense and it's UM. It's a real

1179
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: pick your poison attack. We know that they have a

1180
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: high floor UM they produce week after week. It is Henry,

1181
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: but Tannehill is just completely UM, fearless, when it comes

1182
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: to taking a shot, seeing someone downfield delivering the ball.

1183
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: The Corey Davis has been um consistently great for them

1184
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: for you know much of this latter part to the season.

1185
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: A J. Brown is there, John Nu Smith had a

1186
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: big catch today. They just look unstoppable on that side

1187
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: of the ball when they get going. And um, you

1188
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: know this this game, I would say raised a small

1189
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: alarm for me. I mean, the Lions eliminated today, so

1190
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: we don't need to worry about the bandwagon and all

1191
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: the other business with them. That thing went off a

1192
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: cliff into a hideous wilderness. But the Titans are alive.

1193
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: My one concern is that, you know, you have Matthew

1194
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: Stafford coming off a week where he didn't practice and

1195
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel coming in and throwing for four hundred and

1196
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: thirty yards on this defense that that has zero pass rush. Um,

1197
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions hung around because and we saw

1198
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: this with Cleveland, and we saw this in games where

1199
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee kind of gets worked over. I mean, they're gonna

1200
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: have to win shootouts. They can do it, but at

1201
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: some point, um, you know, you'd like to see that

1202
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: the Tennessee defense step up and do something today. They

1203
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: had just no answers for um An offense. It's been

1204
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: better under Darryl Bevil, at least much more watchable. Same

1205
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: story all year with the Titans defense. Keep waiting for

1206
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks to pool play better. I think we've stopped

1207
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: waiting for any sort of pass rush whatsoever because it's

1208
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: just not happening. You look up every game and it's

1209
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: zero sax. They're They're right there, though, I think with

1210
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Packers, is the best offense in

1211
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: the league. Some of this, like the explosion the last

1212
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, is partly scheduled base but I believe

1213
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: I think those are in the Bills. You sorry for

1214
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: sorry Bills Mafia for forgetting you know, putting them in.

1215
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: But that's that's your top four. You're already dead over

1216
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: the course of the entire season. To me, they are

1217
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: right there with the Chiefs and the Packers. Yeah, their

1218
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: top gear is as high as anyone's. And talked about

1219
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: it on the Thursday preview show. Like Derrick Henry, I

1220
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: think he needs about three yards uh to get to

1221
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: two thousand, which is obviously doable for him. In the

1222
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: last two weeks since he's basically averaging that every week.

1223
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is on pace for like thirty seven touchdowns

1224
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: passing and like seven touchdowns rushing. It's like pretty crazy.

1225
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: And then we all know A. J. Brown how special

1226
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: he is as a receiver. Corey Davis has had a

1227
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: nice season for them too. It's it is quite an

1228
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: attack they have. It really is impressive to watch, as

1229
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: bad as the defenses that often scores them at a

1230
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: holes all the time. I'm really curious. We'll see what

1231
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: how next week goes, because the Colts and the Titans

1232
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: both have really tough games, the Cults of the Steelers

1233
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: and the Titans of the Packers. But depending on how

1234
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: you go in to week seventeen, how how much does

1235
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: a division championship matter to you when you know you

1236
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: are just you know, gonna be playing the next week?

1237
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: And then how much is two thousand yards matter to you?

1238
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: For Derrick Henry, because if the Titans somehow clinched going

1239
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: into it, it's like, I don't know why why, I

1240
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: don't even know if I would play for a division

1241
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: championship that's sort of an existential question. Or would you

1242
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: worry about resting starters before we move on. Just say

1243
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: a few words in respect of Alexander Meyers, who was

1244
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: done away with by a Derrick Hendri stiff arm today.

1245
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Let's listen to that because it sounded like a gunshot

1246
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: stiff And I know that this is an audio medium,

1247
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: but you could hear that stiff arm. Alexander Meyers, My goodness,

1248
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: he is unbelievable. It sounds like someone being hit across

1249
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: the head if they were wearing like a motorcycle helmet

1250
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: with a two by four. Right, we don't, we don't.

1251
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: We all don't get to pick what our legacy is.

1252
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: And maybe Alexander Myles uh Myers will go on to

1253
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: have a successful NFL career, but that might be his

1254
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: football tombstone right there. Oh, he was the guy that

1255
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: got stiff arm seven ft underneath the ground in week fifteen. Um,

1256
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Twenty eight seconds to go,

1257
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: fourth and five, game on the line. Here we go,

1258
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: Watson waiting on a shot gun, Staff takes it, looking

1259
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: fires upfield. It's a tight window. Put my kicky, he

1260
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: taught him. Stiff bubbled into the zone. Who's got who's

1261
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: got the football? There's a scrumpt no signals in the

1262
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: Colts habn it's a touch back. The Cults have bubbled

1263
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: or recovered the bubble here the end zone. K Cuti

1264
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: had it and as he was crossing the goal line,

1265
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: the balls put it up the field the end zone,

1266
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: and like Pults having fabio uriki, it happened again. Matt

1267
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: Taylor w f and I with the call. The Texans

1268
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: yards away from the potential game time score. The Colts

1269
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: punched the ball away. This time it's and Andy fell

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: on the ball in the end zone. They secure a

1271
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty wind. Uh. And it goes to

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: show you there's more than one way to skin a cat.

1273
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: And that's a bizar saying, because who would skin a cat?

1274
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like guests, but who would do

1275
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: such a going? Um? I thought that I don't like

1276
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: some allergic. Who has some allergic? It's different. Um. So, Tennessee,

1277
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: the Titans absolutely dismantled their opponent. The Colts win. They

1278
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: find a way. They get it done against the Texans,

1279
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: who are obviously always gonna be a frisky opponent with

1280
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson. And if you're Watson, you're like, you know,

1281
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, when the center fires the

1282
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: ball at his shins, leading to the game design goal

1283
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: line fumble against the Colts. He sat on the bench

1284
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: for the next ten minutes with a towel over his head,

1285
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: just shocked that, you know, this season has gone so

1286
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: terribly and how crushing that loss was this time he

1287
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,959
Speaker 1: kind of had like a be mused look on his face, like, Hell,

1288
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: this is this is not my year, this is not

1289
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: our year. Let's get the hell out of here and

1290
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: hit the reset button. Uh. So, a good fight by

1291
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: the Texans, but the Colts take care of business. They've

1292
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: won three straight, they retain a share of the a

1293
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: f C South lead with the Titans, and uh they

1294
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: survive and they advanced greg even though maybe it's not

1295
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: the uh type of win Colts fans want to see

1296
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: against a lesser Texans team. Yeah, division games, they know

1297
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: each other so well, especially watching that game two weeks

1298
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: ago so closely. I'm not surprised because they looked about

1299
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: as even as can be. But DeForrest Buckner who got

1300
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: injured on Thursday, to to play this game on limited

1301
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: snaps and and hurt and get three sacks, um is

1302
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: kind of under underscores what he's meant to this team.

1303
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: It hasn't always shown up in the box score. Today

1304
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: he did it did and he dominated well. And to

1305
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: see great players made great plays. Darius Landard the play

1306
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: he made on that fumble, come from behind and swatt

1307
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: it out, just punched that ball out, perfect time and placement.

1308
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: Good for him, and that was the key in the game.

1309
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: It's uh. I mean, it just shows you. With the Texans,

1310
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: they lost by six in overtime to Tennessee. They lost

1311
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: to the Colts by six and seven points a year

1312
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: ago when trilling at halftime. They were four and five

1313
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: in those games, oh and nine this year and one

1314
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: score games they were seven and three a year ago,

1315
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: two and six. And it's like you've got a quarterback

1316
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: operating at the highest level of doing everything he possibly Again,

1317
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: he's had nobody's at wide receiver weeks in a row

1318
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: and they're still hanging around. So, I mean, there is

1319
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: I think if you get a new coaching staff in

1320
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: here like there is, you could just say you have

1321
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson will figure the rest of this thing out. Um.

1322
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: The Cults are a better football team this year. I'm

1323
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: encouraged to see they can run the ball um at

1324
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: this point in the year. Jonathan Taylor had sixteen carries

1325
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: for eighty three yards and a touchdown. He looked especially

1326
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: good early on in the game. And he's just a

1327
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, a great tough runner, um and his rise

1328
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: has been important to them and will continue to be

1329
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: important to them. Philip Rivers he's you know, he really

1330
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: does gain from that. He was twenty yards and two scores, so, um,

1331
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: you put that together. Darius Leonard makes the big play

1332
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: Deforrece Buckner has the huge game. It was, you know,

1333
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: the culture, a well rounded team and they get They

1334
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: have a great kicker in Rodrigo Blanket Ship who kicked

1335
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: another nails d plus yard field goal. He's been doing

1336
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: that all year. Um. It's just a great balanced team

1337
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: and uh, they're going to be a trouble for somebody

1338
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They did not feel like a twelve

1339
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: and four team, but that is on the table right now.

1340
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: All right. Another team that is surging right now, the

1341
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. They got the Jacksonville Jaguars at home. It

1342
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: went as we thought it would. Jackson wants to throw

1343
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: back pedaling at the twenty. Now he'll dart over to

1344
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: the left, extends the play fires at the end, yall

1345
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: touchdown Dez Bryant his first as a Raven and I'll

1346
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: flash the X to the stands. I'm so happy for

1347
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: this man. Yeah, we were just talking about that mark

1348
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: on the Thursday night game last week. That would have

1349
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: been a for a guy that made it all the

1350
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: way back. And then Blue was Achilles with the Saints

1351
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: last year, and then for that ridiculous covid UH designation

1352
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: he got hit with, not that it was ridiculous, but

1353
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: the timing of it with the Cowboys game coming up

1354
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: for him now to score his first touchdown in years,

1355
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: that's nice. Jerry Sandusky w b a L. No drama

1356
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: for the Ravens this week. Lamar Jackson threw three touchdown passes,

1357
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: ran for another score. Ravens built up a twenty six

1358
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: point halftime lead, coasted to a fourteen win mark. The

1359
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: Ravens are back. There's no doubt about that. Man. They

1360
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: are If you're gonna get this version of Baltimore, and

1361
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: why aren't we going to get it? This is who

1362
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: they are right now. Um. They lead in yardage two

1363
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: twenty one to sixties sixty one. At halftime. And this

1364
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: is where you get a little bit concerned about your gardner.

1365
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: Minshew hopes and dreams just they just they had they

1366
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: had no chance in this game. Lamar Jackson started a

1367
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: little rough and tumbly. He was picked off in the

1368
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: end zone on their first drive. But then right away

1369
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense stepped up and dropped Minshew for a safety. Uh.

1370
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: Then the Ravens just got going. On their next drive,

1371
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: it was suddenly nine nothing and like you know, you

1372
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: know how we do this one is are just like

1373
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: this game was over four minutes ago, but as officially

1374
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: over right now. They ran all over ja Xonville to me,

1375
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: you know. And I will say one weird thing. This

1376
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: game had a safety. The Eagles game that I covered

1377
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: had a safe, had a safety, and the Detroit game

1378
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: that I covered had a safety. I cannot remember a

1379
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: time in my life when I covered three games on

1380
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: a Sunday that all had safeties. I guarantee you that's

1381
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: never happened. Let Sports Bureau, I'll call him up. Sure,

1382
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: I'll call him up. Um. Yeah, the Dez Bryant was

1383
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: it was to me, I think a little bit of um,

1384
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: a little spice about what this team is right now,

1385
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: Like that thing could have gone differently and it would

1386
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: just sort of show the Ravens and and you know, Dan,

1387
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you thought they were gonna win out

1388
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: and Um, I'm with you. They're gonna go eleven and

1389
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: five and they're a very dangerous team right now. Janak

1390
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: and got Way had a fumble recovery. It's sort of

1391
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: seemed like everyone um took out a lot of aggression

1392
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: and anger on the on the Jaguars today, who do

1393
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: not look to me um any better than the Jets. Yeah,

1394
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a big power ranking's decision to make video

1395
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: that is that's gonna be that'll keep you up at night.

1396
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of let's call the Associated Press on that. This

1397
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: is the This is my favorite thing. By the way,

1398
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: speaking of Gardner Minshew, this is the greatest Gardner Minshew

1399
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: stat line ever. He's the best of this. Two six yards,

1400
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no interceptions, a passer rating, final score four Ravens.

1401
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: He's good at that. His numbers always look good, even

1402
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: when the score doesn't look so good. Mm hmm. Ravens

1403
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: gotta feel good just throwing the ball a little bit.

1404
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: They gotta throw they know they know who they are,

1405
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: but they also need to have some efficiency throwing. So

1406
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's against Jacksonville's B teamers or what,

1407
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: just to get something going in terms of Lamar's yards

1408
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: per tempt like he did, you know in the crunch

1409
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: time against Cleveland. That's a good thing, all right. Now

1410
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: it is that time, yes, where we say goodbye to

1411
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: once one handsome bald man and say hello to another.

1412
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: Nick Shook, welcome to the show, Chris Westling. Any final

1413
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: thoughts before you signed off for another night. Oh, it's good.

1414
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: Didn't make it through and this was a tough one

1415
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: for me, so Shook. Bring that energy level up for

1416
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: the other guys there. God, you have west great lawyer.

1417
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Mr Westling. Uh, the wife and I have

1418
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: a delivery head in your way. Uh, Chris, So stay tuned,

1419
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: stay by the door, stare at the door. That will

1420
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: give you something to do this week. All right, let's

1421
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: continue to roll through the rest of the week. Fifteen

1422
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: Sunday schedule up next, The Throne of Ease in Trouble.

1423
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna go for it on four thousand three, Damn

1424
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: Newton shotgun quick Myers in motion let's come on, and

1425
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: they got to him. They caught her. It's a it's

1426
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: ninth sack of the year. I've been stuck on eight.

1427
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: Good to see him get nine. And what a great

1428
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: time to get it. Jimmy just all but end the

1429
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: football game. Jimmy Well, I'm agnanimous of er Jimmy Cefalo

1430
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: and Jason Taylor with the call w q A M. Yeah,

1431
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: the big stop at the game on Cam Newton clinched it.

1432
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: Undrafted rookie Salvin Ahmed and veteran Matt Breida combined for

1433
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: two eight yards rushing to leave. The Dolphins played twenty

1434
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: two to twelve victory over the Patriots. The Patriots who

1435
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: have been eliminated from postseason contention. It's the first year

1436
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: they will not be in the playoffs. Way back with

1437
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: two thousand eight, that was the Tom Brady for an

1438
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: A c L season shook. Uh, how did this one go? Twelve?

1439
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: A slock? Yeah, a little bit of a slog, especially

1440
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: in the first half, and and kind of like what

1441
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: I wrote in uh and what we learned for this

1442
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: in a game between Bill Belichick and a guy who

1443
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: used to serve on his staff in Brian Flores I mean,

1444
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: could we really expect anything other than that we're gonna get,

1445
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, a total of sixteen points by the late

1446
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: third quarter between these two teams. You know, it's pretty

1447
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: much I was like, yeah, alright, this this makes sense, um,

1448
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: But the Dolphins gotta give him credit and really gives

1449
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: to a talk a lot of credit as well, uh

1450
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: for picking it up in the in the fourth quarter.

1451
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: And the fun thing about watching the Dolphins in a

1452
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 1: week to week basis with two at quarterback is every

1453
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: time you go through the course of the game, he

1454
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: makes a mistake early or or he's just a little

1455
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: slow to react and it costs the Dolphins any key

1456
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: situation early and then he runs into another similar situation

1457
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: later in that same game and learns from it and

1458
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: applies what he's learned to make the best out of

1459
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: a situation. Whereas like in this game, for example, he

1460
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: was on New England's three, he threw an interception. Uh,

1461
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: they didn't come in with any points there, obviously they

1462
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: cut You find themselves in the same situation early fourth quarter,

1463
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: he takes it himself, escapes the rush, gets across the

1464
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: goal line for the first of two rushing touchdowns for him, so, um,

1465
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of came to life as he

1466
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: got more comfortable, which is something that you see in

1467
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: a weekly basis with him, is throughout the course of

1468
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: the game, he just gets more comfortable and kind of

1469
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: sparks their offense. Statistically, it's not there for him right now,

1470
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: but that's okay because as they have a running game

1471
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: that they can rely on, Uh, you know with Uh

1472
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: Ahmed and uh and Matt Brita who you know, twelve

1473
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: rushes for eighty six yards today looking as fast as ever. Um,

1474
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: they played with some decisiveness offensively in the second half

1475
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: and really executed better than I thought that they would

1476
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: or that they have in a while. But yet we

1477
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: had to fight through a little bit of that mud

1478
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: in the first half between two very good defensive coaches.

1479
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're missing Grant Parker and Gisicky and

1480
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: I came into this game thinking they're gonna win because

1481
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: flores is the chosen one. And you watch this in

1482
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: terms of you know, the Belichick disciples. Wasn't Mangini, It's

1483
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: definitely not Patricia, wasn't McDaniels. Floress team comes together, they're

1484
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: greater than the some of their parts like those Oh

1485
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: one Patriots marks mentioned throughout, And isn't this, uh such

1486
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: a No. One Patriots type of game where all your

1487
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: skill position guys are hurt and you go win the

1488
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: game with Durham Smith, Lynn Bowden and Isaiah Ford as

1489
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: your top three, none of whom like, we're teams that

1490
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: guys anyone really wanted. The Raiders gave up on butt them,

1491
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: The Dolphins gave up on Foard they traded him to

1492
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: the Dollar, the Patriots a month ago. They're only taking

1493
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 1: them back because they're in desperation mode. Um, it's I'm

1494
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: just not surprised because there's you just watch them each

1495
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: week and I think they're really well coached. They have

1496
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: a maybe they have a low ceiling, but I don't

1497
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: know in the in the a f C, Like, what

1498
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: does that even mean in in a single game elimination tournament.

1499
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: You're telling me they wouldn't have a chance against you know, anyone,

1500
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: maybe not the Chiefs, but against just about anyone else. Well,

1501
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: this is gonna be really cliche, but they're winning with defense,

1502
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: and defense can win you a game in the playoffs

1503
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: if you get to the playoffs, And right now they're

1504
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 1: in a pretty good position. And it's hard to argue

1505
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: with where they stand right now because week after week,

1506
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: whether it's against the Chiefs they lost a close to

1507
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: one last week, they were very competitive, or it's against

1508
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots, who obviously at the Patriots of old, but

1509
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: are still a team that you have to expect that

1510
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: you have to you have to come out and play

1511
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: really good football in order to beat them. They've done

1512
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: it on a week to week basis. So yeah, I

1513
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: think you're right, Greg. The ceiling is not super high

1514
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: to us. Still a rookie and they're missing those guys

1515
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, But they're a team that you have

1516
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: to watch and you have to take seriously because of

1517
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: how well coached there, and they had an attitude. Man,

1518
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: they really play with an attitude, especially the defensive side

1519
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: of the ball. They really embody their coach. What a turnaround,

1520
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: What a turnaround. I thought that really stood out when

1521
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: they got into you know, huge fights on the field

1522
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and it was Flores who

1523
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: led the charge marching out onto the field. I mean

1524
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: you think I think I could tell you a lot

1525
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: of coaches are not going to do that, and um,

1526
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: they may not have the highest ceiling on defense or

1527
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: offense or special teams, but the floor for each of

1528
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,959
Speaker 1: those UM is impressive. They're very watchable, they're very balanced,

1529
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: and yes we've said it, they're well coached and what

1530
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: a day. I mean that if I were to point

1531
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: to one thing, it's because of injuries and other stuff

1532
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: that is not worked for them. They could not support

1533
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: to UH with a ground game through so many of

1534
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: these weeks and to today with all the guys you

1535
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: mentioned out of the lineup UM, the fluid and fluidity

1536
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: and flexibility to go run for two hundred and fifty yards.

1537
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: That reminds me of the Patriots when a bunch of

1538
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: guys are going on, we're just gonna change who we

1539
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: are going to throw it an attack in a different way.

1540
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: Ahmed who was actually he's had a couple of good games,

1541
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: So I mean they find dudes to step up, and

1542
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: it's every week it's different names. So I'm with you

1543
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: that in the A s c UM they could pick

1544
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: off anyone they called. They made life difficult for Patrick Mahomes.

1545
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: It's not enough, but they but whether they're one of

1546
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: the few teams that did that. By what was a

1547
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: thirty yard stack, the worst stack of Mahomes career. I mean,

1548
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: so today they went and put it to a um

1549
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: an offense that has a putrid smell attached to it.

1550
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: In New England, the Patriots have been sent off to

1551
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: the cornfields before Christmas. It's it's kind of hard to

1552
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: believe after all these years, that's your Christmas gift in

1553
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 1: from us? How did Scotzolac take it? And the snapbacks

1554
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: you didn't get, fourth down captains and troubles cat has

1555
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: got a good stack, and kep saying anything to the

1556
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: Dolphins are celebrating, So it really it was the kif

1557
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: that song given he's a Jelly of the Month club.

1558
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Jelly of the month club? Like

1559
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: a low wattage gift or I guess you keep getting it,

1560
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: he said, the gift that keeps on giving. So I'm

1561
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,799
Speaker 1: guessing he's like talking about turnovers or giving away negative

1562
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: plays and you get one each week or month. I mean,

1563
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: you know they didn't hire Zolac for his word play.

1564
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: It was just that, you know that that bright intelligence.

1565
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's there's gotta be more. Is there anything else?

1566
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: There's two thousand eight last time of the Patriots did

1567
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs until campaign. That's gross. I mean,

1568
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: I'd rather take one like the Ramps. I guess the

1569
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: team that okay on paper and structuring, coaching, there's a

1570
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: lot better on us right now. You could take it

1571
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: your tail kick like that, not from this or unmanned

1572
01:19:55,040 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: team just took it to you down in South Florida. Oh,

1573
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: the disrespect of the Dolphins, right he referred to them

1574
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: as a unmanned team. Undermanned, undermanned they were because they

1575
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: were banged up, you know, because they were missing, because

1576
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: they were because they won in the same way. And

1577
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: that's why I've I've believed in them. They went in

1578
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: the same way every week and every losing team like

1579
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: trying to turn it away from the Patriots and back

1580
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins page. Take us, take us through your

1581
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: thought process right now, Greg, it's finally over. You're just

1582
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: another This is it. I came into this game with

1583
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: living and dying on it, and it it hurts. It

1584
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: hurts us one of us well. And he's the lack

1585
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: of saying he would rather lose to the Jets. We

1586
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: could arrange that two weeks from now, Mrs Alack, I

1587
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I had so low never it

1588
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: was never to it. You. You are more invested in

1589
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: this team than than I have been, and I'm I'm

1590
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: happy for you. Dan Well. I I mean, listen, I

1591
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: get things all wrong all the time, we all mess up,

1592
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,959
Speaker 1: but I have this one nailed. I knew the Patriots

1593
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: are in trouble with Cam Newton and wait, you told

1594
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: me all season that I was. Wait, you actually many

1595
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: times kept saying all season like you're way too done.

1596
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why you don't think they're contenders. I

1597
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: was like, I don't. Never I think there are six

1598
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: or seven win team, like back in Week three. I

1599
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: have never come off my messaging that the Patriots were

1600
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: a seven to nine win team that was not special.

1601
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: And and when everybody was going nuts about about Cam

1602
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: and everything early in the season, it never I never

1603
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: called on. Maybe I just because I didn't want it

1604
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: to cut catch on, but it never did. And I think,

1605
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: you know, are we gonna see Jared's Stidham the rest

1606
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: of the year. That's that's something I think they're telling

1607
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: us what they think about Jared Stidham. Oh that's true too,

1608
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: all right, And Scott hanging there. I'm sure there's another

1609
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: generational quarterback right around the corner for you. All right,

1610
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: let's move on finally, San Francisco at Dallas, Dalton's under sudder.

1611
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: Why he's gonna give it a Pollard calling on the

1612
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: right side, first down rights to tackle, running the light off,

1613
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 1: Tony Color straight tip touchdown roun Tony Pollard. Zekiel Elliott

1614
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: was a late scratch on Sunday. So Tony steps up

1615
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: and plays like a star. Scores twice, including that game

1616
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: ice and forty yard scamper. Late in the fourth quarter,

1617
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: they added another touchdown on a Seedee Lamb on side

1618
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: kick recovery, and the Cowboys keep their playoff hopes alive

1619
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: with a three win over the Forts. What a world,

1620
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: Nick Shook? What a world? Yeah? What a world? I mean,

1621
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: you don't help yourself when you when you go down

1622
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: to Dallas, you're already underman. Speaking of underman, the Niners

1623
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: are probably the most underman team in football, or one

1624
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: of the three most undermanned. Uh. And you immediately turn

1625
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: the ball over twice deep in your own territory and

1626
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: basically gift them two scores, and you dig yourself a

1627
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: fourteen nothing hole before you can even blink. I mean,

1628
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: that's how fast it was. Um, you don't give Nick

1629
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Mollins the ball expecting to throw you in to a

1630
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 1: multi score comeback win. And yet there they were right

1631
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 1: there in perfect position, and then gave it away again

1632
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: Mollins with a crushing interception late. And then see Lamb

1633
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: showing off his athleticism after they get a field goal

1634
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: to try to cut it to a one score game

1635
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: and he takes the onside kickback for a touchdown. It

1636
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: entered the realm of the absurd by the end, capped

1637
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: by the Tony Pollard touchdown. It's probably not what we expected.

1638
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: We might have expected a lot of points or a

1639
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: decent amount of points from the Niners, considering the Dallas's

1640
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: defense is still a mess. But you didn't expect it

1641
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: to blow up like this and and have people, you know,

1642
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: celebrating on a Sunday in December and what was what

1643
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: could be a lost season if that division wasn't so bad.

1644
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: I had so much hope for this Niners team, and

1645
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that there they seem, you know, and it's understandable,

1646
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: sort of psychologically broken. At this point. They've used over

1647
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: seventy five players. Um this season. You know, it's easy

1648
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: to forget, but they were forced to move to a

1649
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: different city a couple of weeks ago, and I think

1650
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: it's just added up to be too much, and it's

1651
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: too much to overcome. And you know, now it's we

1652
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: we learned today that not surprisingly that Jimmy g won't

1653
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: play again this year. Why would he? Um? But I

1654
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: wonder if I'll ever play again for them. It's it's

1655
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: it's one of those lingering offseason questions. And um, I

1656
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 1: don't need the Cowboys to go on a run here

1657
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: and make the playoffs. And I would hope their fan

1658
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: base doesn't need that either, but I'm sure they say

1659
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: they do. I'm not. I'm not getting sucked in that

1660
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna follow this up with another big performance.

1661
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you told the Cowboys fans six

1662
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago that you're gonna enter Week sixteen with a

1663
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: chance to win the divisions, so you think, really, if

1664
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: you told them on Thanksgiving after they got destroyed, uh

1665
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: in their building, if you that they were gonna have

1666
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: a chance to win the division, however slim it maybe? Uh?

1667
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: So you know you have that you get to celebrate

1668
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Christmas and then look ahead to a game that matters,

1669
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: which I don't think anybody predicted, so well, someone's gotta win.

1670
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: They play the Eagles, so one of them, one of

1671
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: them is gonna win. And then that is a true

1672
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: elimination game. You don't get a ton of those, not

1673
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: even just met a oracle like like the Vikings are

1674
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, technically still alive. Actually, that is a true

1675
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: elimination game. And C. J. Beathard, by the way, will

1676
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: be starting for the forty Niners the final two weeks.

1677
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: Shanahan confirmed what was the what was it? Did he

1678
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: play play the sec now he came in for a

1679
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: junk drive? But what's the Mullins got hurt too, but

1680
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: he said, regardless of the injury, is going to give

1681
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Beth to Mullins is killing you with two or three

1682
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: um disastrous throws the game outside of being otherwise sort

1683
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: of productive. It's yeah that in the Niners, you know,

1684
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: with all the injuries and everything that dealt with, they

1685
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: also have not taken care of the ball. Uh. The

1686
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: negative eleven UH turnover differential one of the one of

1687
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: the worst in the league. And it's gonna kill you.

1688
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: No matter who's in the field. And Zeke missed missed

1689
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: with this caffe injury that's been lingering. Um, you know,

1690
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: he's a high paid veteran running back coming off his

1691
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: worst season of his career, and he wally pip possibility

1692
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: here with Tony Pollard. Did you did you like the

1693
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: white Pollard look or was this seemed like a one

1694
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: off for you show? I mean it depends do we

1695
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: take this seriously to get sucked into the whole playoff hunt?

1696
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Because is this a team? This is gonna be my

1697
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: question earlier? Is this a team that even if they

1698
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: made the playoffs? I mean, you're I just mean Pollard? Yeah,

1699
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean he had that nice touchdown run at the

1700
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: end of the game. Um, he's he's a nice complimentary

1701
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: back to I think what Ezekiel Elliott is which better back.

1702
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: He's a better back than Ezekiel out today. I thought

1703
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: that is going to help their offense. I don't think

1704
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna watches the Cowboys can argue otherwise this year. Yeah,

1705
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: That's the thing is Zeke has had a bad year.

1706
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: He's looked bad for the entirety of this season. And

1707
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard when you come to the change of pace

1708
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: is faster, he's he's shiftier, he's smaller. Um, yeah, he's

1709
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: a better option right now, which is sad to say

1710
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: considering how much money they're paying Zeke. But again, how

1711
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: much do we really you know stock we're putting into this?

1712
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, are we are we paying attention to the Cowboys?

1713
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: You know we're really watching closely in the final couple

1714
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: of weeks, um, you know there they could have a

1715
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: home game in the playoff break their way. Um. And

1716
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: while I check over the cap dot com to see

1717
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: what the salary situation is for Ezekiel Elliott, we pause

1718
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: now before heading to Sunday Night Football Night, Jones and

1719
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: motion Mayfield? Who's right for Landry? Who holds on for

1720
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 1: the touchcot? It was that easy for the Cleveland Browns

1721
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night. Is Baker Mayfield? That's twenty seven of

1722
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: thirty two for two touchdowns, no interceptions, two nineties seven yards,

1723
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: actually had three hundreds and lost then and I coulive play.

1724
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: But that's the only negative thing for the Browns in

1725
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: a twenty six win over the New York Giants, taking

1726
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland one step closer to her first playoff appearance over

1727
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: a decade. Here we are with two of the biggest

1728
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 1: ground stands you'll find, Nick Shook and Mark Sessler. Shook,

1729
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Uh, this is what they've done

1730
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 1: all year, show kie. They take care of business. Yeah,

1731
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean another complete performance. Um. I'm a little concerned

1732
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: about their ability to stop the run. Showed up kind

1733
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: of early. But uh, for the most part, I mean

1734
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: they maker Mayfield with a solid game. Uh. You know,

1735
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: they had a good pace offensively, he was letting it ripped.

1736
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: There were nine for thirteen on third down. Um. You know,

1737
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: there's nothing to really complain about when the Browns have

1738
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 1: the football. Um, even after they suffered an injury right

1739
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: guard when they lost Chris Hubbard who was playing for

1740
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: White Teller who was inactive, and then the late round

1741
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: pick Nick Harris comes in. I was a big fan

1742
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: of him out of Washington. It was nice to see

1743
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: him play well, uh, coming in and relief his first

1744
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: big time professional action in his first year. So, I mean,

1745
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is what I expected this from the Browns.

1746
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure these amount of people did. Um, and they

1747
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: keep moving forward. Greg, you're smiling, what's up? Well, it's

1748
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: just it's just like the Browns are it's like making

1749
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs for the first time in thirteen years, and

1750
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: it's just like ho hum the brown you know, it's

1751
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: just like moving forward. It's almost like they're so good,

1752
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: they're they're boring. It's amazing. Wait, I don't know now,

1753
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: but they're they're all, they're all. But well then, so

1754
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: they could have slipped up here and that would have

1755
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: been um egregious on a day when everyone else that

1756
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: mattered in the A F C. One. Um, And it

1757
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: kind of felt this game to me. I mean, part

1758
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: of it is because we take part of our show

1759
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: and then you you dive into SNF when it's when

1760
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: when we're done with that. But um, to me, sort

1761
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: of like when you when we when we used to

1762
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: go to work, we go to the office and you'd

1763
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: have a day like a random Wednesday. That meant I

1764
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 1: don't have real memories from it. Um, I didn't do

1765
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: anything terribly wrong. I got the job done. For the

1766
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: most part. That felt like this Browns game. And it's

1767
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: weird that, um, that's actually a win for them. I'm

1768
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: so with you. Shook On the offensive line performance, Bill

1769
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: Callahan has been the secret Sauce the All Star for

1770
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: this coaching staff, and um, Nick Harris played really well,

1771
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: and it was pointed out by Chris Collinsworth, UM smartly.

1772
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. My thing with the Browns is this,

1773
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: like when you get this version of Baker Mayfield where

1774
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: he's not making big miss stakes and stuff like, um,

1775
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: they thrive and it was. It was sort of just

1776
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: a workman like performance. And I my my concern, like

1777
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: the the jaded Browns fan version of me, is just

1778
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: don't go in and drop these two games to New

1779
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,480
Speaker 1: York and have like this season and in total calamity.

1780
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: And so you're halfway from that not happening. That is

1781
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: what I've thought about deep in the middle of the night. Um,

1782
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: that's where I'm at mentally, and so take care of

1783
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: your business and you move on for another week. Yeah,

1784
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: that's the point I was gonna make, is it Old Browns?

1785
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 1: The old Browns would lose this game. The old Browns

1786
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: would that that fake field goal would work, uh, and

1787
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,799
Speaker 1: the Giants would have scored a touchdown and and the Browns,

1788
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: the old Browns would have fallen apart. They would have

1789
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: lost this one. It would have stretched in the next

1790
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: week they would have lost the Jets and it would

1791
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: have fallen apart like Mark described. But that's not this team,

1792
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: which is exciting to see. It's ho hum. Uh. You know,

1793
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: there was probably eight or nine minutes left in the

1794
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: fourth and I was watching with my girlfriend and I

1795
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: just looked her and said, this game is over, like

1796
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: there's there's we could do the majority of our recap

1797
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: right now because the majority of this game is over.

1798
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: And that's a that's a really good thing for the

1799
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Browns who have not been that team in twenty years,

1800
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: if not in most of your lifetime, I mean, like

1801
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: the vast majorities of your lifetime. I thought that Joe

1802
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: Judge Um called this game for the Giants with almost

1803
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: an admirable level of desperation. He knew he was in

1804
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble here with Colt McCoy is his

1805
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: quarterback and um Freddy Kitchens as his offensive coordinator. And

1806
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: you saw that when they go into the red zone

1807
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: um three times and the three first three possessions. But

1808
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: like we said, going for it on fourth down that

1809
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 1: didn't work, trying a fake field goal that didn't work.

1810
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: It was just not gonna happen. And the way things

1811
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: are with Colt McCoy. Yeah, he's had good for Colt McCoy,

1812
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 1: he's set himself up for life over the last ten years,

1813
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: being a backup for most of those years. But he's

1814
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: a tough guy to watch, to be honest. And that's

1815
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: why this game definitely felt very much in the bag

1816
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: once the Browns went up by two scores because the

1817
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Giants just didn't have the firepower. Yeah, came down to

1818
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: those two plays, the fake field goal and uh they

1819
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: failed fourth down in the red zone. But it just

1820
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: got me thinking this game, I mean, there's only fourteen

1821
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: drives in the whole game. I'm big in the drives

1822
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and like and two of them were the Giants kneel

1823
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: on it once at the end of the second quarter.

1824
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: And then there was like a minute at the end

1825
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 1: where Garrett got a sack, uh, where the Giants weren't

1826
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: trying to do anything. It was really twelve drives in

1827
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: this game. For comparison, like the forty Niners and the

1828
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: Cowboys each had fourteen drives. And so I'm thinking back

1829
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: to and I'm thinking Mark Sessler fell in love with

1830
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: those old Callahan Washington are works and he was just

1831
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: like Hey, they might be losing, but they go on

1832
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: these long drives and they get Mark righting up to

1833
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: what we learned nice and early. And that's what these

1834
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Browns are. Callahan, he heard Mark. He went to Cleveland.

1835
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: And this is what they do each and every week

1836
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: their touchdown drives. Thirteen play seventy five yards, ten plays

1837
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 1: nine yards, fourteen play a hundred and fifteen yards if

1838
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: you count the the extra yards they had the game

1839
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 1: for penalties. Like, that's what the Browns do. And they

1840
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: kind of do it every week. They usually do it

1841
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,839
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Now they do it a little earlier,

1842
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: and they're doing it all for Mark Sessler. And it

1843
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: really is it just and for Nick Shook and and

1844
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: for and for Cleveland. And it's um to me, uh

1845
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: what the difference is with Kevin Stefanski. And it's nice

1846
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: to watch the game this time, Dan, I didn't watch

1847
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: it in the garage. For a couple of minutes. I did,

1848
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: then I went right back inside. I watched it with Simone,

1849
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: and Simone doesn't hate watching Kevin Stefanski coach of football game.

1850
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: I think, um, there would be other people that would

1851
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 1: agree with that. But you're right, Greg, that Bill Callahans,

1852
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: you're saying your wife's hot for Stefanski. Is that what

1853
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: you're saying to the point where like she likes watching

1854
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 1: the game war just because he's I'm just saying she

1855
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: noted that he was not. You know, among the there's

1856
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: the Vic Fangio's. I'm not saying he's an older man.

1857
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: But then there's the Kevin Stefans Ken Stefanski sex got

1858
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: angle harder than Mark. He ever connect out at a

1859
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: certain point. I don't know. I don't know about that

1860
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: part of the god um the god aspect, but I

1861
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: would say he's you know, he's a new a new age,

1862
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: new wave coach young. Um Oh, I don't have to

1863
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: gain a hundred and fifty pounds because I'm coaching a

1864
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: football team between August and December. It's like I actually

1865
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: can keep my shape. Um, I will keep my wits

1866
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: about me. Um. I love I just I think that

1867
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: hep side. If he gained a hundred pounds, maybe they'd

1868
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: be undefeated right now. Did you think of it that way? No,

1869
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: I definitely did not think of it that way. That

1870
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: makes literally no sense. But you don't want to paint

1871
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: yourself in a corner. What if, like year eight, you've

1872
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: got two super Bowls under your belt and he just

1873
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 1: starts letting it go, and you know he should at

1874
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: that point. I would love him to just balloon up.

1875
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: And I think Nick would Nick Shook would balloon up

1876
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: at that point two super Bowls, Like I think you

1877
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: already have ballooned up, if you know what I'm saying.

1878
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, you're just riding out right

1879
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: in the wave. You're you're beyond it, You're but what's

1880
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: there to live for? You already achieved the success. Might

1881
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: as well just gorge yourself and all the train off

1882
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: the um. Alright, So the Browns ten and four they

1883
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: are ready, they are ready for January. The Giants um

1884
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: not out of it with the NFC East being the

1885
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: state that it's in, but obviously damaging loss of them.

1886
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: So we're gonna see how that all plays out. Before

1887
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: we signed off, let's check in on the lock of

1888
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 1: the week's standings. Greg finally takes an ol needed that

1889
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: we needed that Greg had the bad job. You know,

1890
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: just just go with your your head and your heart.

1891
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: Just go against the Patriots. That's what I wanted to do.

1892
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: Did in other forums and didn't have the guts to

1893
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: do it here on the season. Good job by you, Mark.

1894
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: You got behind your your hometown team. Well you're opted

1895
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: hometown team. Well you've never been in Cleveland before. But

1896
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Browns win. I took the Chiefs,

1897
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs win, and Ricky oh, Ricky joined me with

1898
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and and broke that curse as well. So

1899
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: good job everybody. Just tightened up the standings a little

1900
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: bit there, Greggy, And I know you act like it

1901
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 1: doesn't bother you, but you want it. You need it,

1902
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: you want that title. You want to go back to back.

1903
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: Just got a little trickier. Hey, it's always it's always

1904
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna be um, yeah, it's always gonna come down to

1905
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: the final weeks, right. I guess it didn't last year,

1906
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: but you know that's what you expect with a bunch

1907
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: of competitors, you expect this thing to go to the end. Well,

1908
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: Well I'm competitivefessional answer. I liked it all right, good stuff, Shook,

1909
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, good man, look at you shook. On top

1910
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 1: of the world. He's got a he's got a pricey

1911
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: condo high rise in Cleveland with the girl of his

1912
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: dreams eating popcorn and watching the Browns walked to a

1913
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: win on Sunday night with a with a little thing

1914
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: in his pocket. He's ready to pop out on Christmas Eve.

1915
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: Maybe even that's that's too much. I'm not sure what

1916
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: that means. You mean a ring Okay, yeah, no Stefanski

1917
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: situation there. And we'll be back on Tuesday. We have

1918
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: one more game from week fifteen that we'll be breaking down.

1919
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 1: That's uh, Steelers Bengals, and we have a Christmas week

1920
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 1: filled with content, so make sure you stick around for

1921
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: all that. Thank you all the listeners, and of course

1922
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, who again week after week shows up for

1923
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: this show when he's not at a percent or close

1924
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: to it, and there's that's so commendable and we are

1925
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: proud to call him our friend. We love you west

1926
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: all right. That's stand hands a signing off for a

1927
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: quiet storm. The Old Boss Nick shook Ricky Hollywood behind

1928
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: the virtual glass until Tuesday