Speaker 1: Hey, y'all. Before today's new lab kicks off, we've got
Speaker 1: a little treat, an oldie, but a total goodie on
Speaker 1: the art and sociology of celebration. Whether you're gearing up
Speaker 1: for the Fourth of July fireworks, a backyard family reunion,
Speaker 1: or even just celebrating the miracle of being alive this summer,
Speaker 1: this one's for you. Stick around, because sometimes the best
Speaker 1: sparks come from labs. We've already lit I'm Tt and
Speaker 1: I'm Zachiah, and this is Dope Labs. Welcome to Dope Labs,
Speaker 1: a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore science with pop culture
Speaker 1: and a healthy dose of friendship. In this Lab, we're
Speaker 1: dipping into a classic episode on why we as humans
Speaker 1: throw confetti, light fireworks, and you know my favorite, gather
Speaker 1: around the grill to celebrate. It's a timeless deep dive
Speaker 1: into how celebrate shapes our brains, our bonds, and our
Speaker 1: sense of belonging. If we promise, it'll make you think
Speaker 1: a little differently about the next kickback, you go too.
Speaker 2: We love celebrating.
Speaker 1: We like celebrating everything from big things to small things. Yes,
Speaker 1: in this episode, we are talking all about celebration and
Speaker 1: the sociology behind it.
Speaker 3: I think it's important to really acknowledge celebrations exist across cultures.
Speaker 3: They may look different, but almost every culture has some
Speaker 3: type of celebratory time or season or event. And there
Speaker 3: are some cultural universals, so behaviors that or values that
Speaker 3: show up in different cultures. They might not necessarily be
Speaker 3: the same, but we see them all the time. So
Speaker 3: dancing or food, or rituals or different religious practices, those
Speaker 3: are cultural universals, and they're all often elements of various
Speaker 3: types of celebrations. So it can feel like celebration itself
Speaker 3: is a hallmark of human behavior.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, let's jump into the recitation.
Speaker 4: What do we know?
Speaker 1: TT, Well, we know right now there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are celebrating, including us.
Speaker 3: Yes, and we also know there seems to be this
Speaker 3: gravitational pool to celebration being outside, loud and with snacks
Speaker 3: and drinks.
Speaker 2: Yes, we need libations.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, I just want to understand
Speaker 3: what's driving us to celebrate. I think I want to
Speaker 3: know why it's food always something that folks want to
Speaker 3: bring out when.
Speaker 1: It's time to celebrate. Is that something that's just like
Speaker 1: is it a cultural thing?
Speaker 3: Is it all cultures and even beyond just us celebrating?
Speaker 3: This feels like some spontaneous celebration in the fall. There's
Speaker 3: that season of celebration right after spooky season where if
Speaker 3: people celebrate Thanksgiving around that time, heading into all of
Speaker 3: the winter high holidays, I feel like I can almost
Speaker 3: smell it in.
Speaker 2: The air, you know.
Speaker 3: But if I didn't grow up celebrating these holidays, would
Speaker 3: I still feel that same way?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a part of our subconscious mind to feel
Speaker 1: like we're supposed to be celebrating right now.
Speaker 2: And then I want to know.
Speaker 1: Friendsgiving is a new thing, but I don't know whose idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was, it's a genius idea, but I want to
Speaker 1: know whose idea it was and when it got started.
Speaker 3: I think friendsgiving is the perfect example as we start
Speaker 3: to think about celebration on a whole right because you
Speaker 3: don't have to believe any one certain thing to participate
Speaker 3: in friendsgiving. It also feels like it's a little more
Speaker 3: low stakes than some of the other holidays, so you
Speaker 3: don't have to jump in and sprinkle cinnamon all over
Speaker 3: your house.
Speaker 4: If you want to participate in friendsgiving.
Speaker 1: Friendsgiving feels more like a come as you are celebration
Speaker 1: rather than you got to get dressed up with your
Speaker 1: auntie and uncle and answer all their annoying questions.
Speaker 3: I don't want to wear a sequin top. So I
Speaker 3: think we're ready to move into the dissection and understand
Speaker 3: more about celebration. So this dissection is a little bit different.
Speaker 3: The guest expert today, Well, it's us welcome.
Speaker 4: I think we're.
Speaker 3: Professional celebrators and I think it's a great time for
Speaker 3: us to just hold that mirror up and explore some
Speaker 3: of our own behavior around holidays.
Speaker 1: We're talking all about celebrations, and I think a great
Speaker 1: place to start would be talking about a celebration kind
Speaker 1: of like Friendsgiving, where it is a new form of
Speaker 1: celebration and I think a lot of people are starting
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: So let's start with the history of Friendsgiving. It's basically
Speaker 3: a spin on Thanksgiving. And when we look back at
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is basically a big feast. And so your want
Speaker 3: for a meat lover's pizza, my want for mimosa. That's
Speaker 3: gathering around food, and that's not new. Almost all cultures
Speaker 3: are considered kind of cultures of celebration. And Thanksgiving was
Speaker 3: centered on the fall harvest, similar to how we talked
Speaker 3: about cuffing season and having been with the spring harvest,
Speaker 3: it's kind of this cyclical or seasonal celebration.
Speaker 2: M okay.
Speaker 3: And so it's best to have a feast, which is
Speaker 3: like a large meal, and it's usually outrageous amounts of
Speaker 3: food compared to what you would normally have day to day.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be pretty hard to do that if you
Speaker 3: don't have a season of harvest, if you don't have
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff to choose from.
Speaker 1: And you know what I like is that when you
Speaker 1: look up the definition of feast, it's a verb and
Speaker 1: it means to eat and drink sumptuously.
Speaker 2: I like that word sumptuously. I'm just started using that.
Speaker 3: So when we start to think about friends Giving, this
Speaker 3: is kind of new. Like you said, it's been on
Speaker 3: the rise. If you look at Google trends and they
Speaker 3: show you know, that little graph of how often different
Speaker 3: terms are searched, it doesn't make its first kind of
Speaker 3: big blip until like twenty ten, and then you just
Speaker 3: see every year around November it just peaks up. And
Speaker 3: so it's been on the rise since like the twenty ten.
Speaker 3: If you think about two thousand and seven to twenty ten,
Speaker 3: the economy trying to make a comeback. Millennials were one
Speaker 3: of the first generations to move really far away from home,
Speaker 3: So can you even afford to get back home?
Speaker 1: So I remember being an undergrad and before we would
Speaker 1: go home for Thanksgiving break, me and my friends one
Speaker 1: year got together and had like a little Thanksgiving because
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, you know, we're thankful for each other.
Speaker 1: We should all get together and do something. So I
Speaker 1: think it also was something where folks wanted to celebrate
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with their friends before having to go home and
Speaker 1: celebrate with their families.
Speaker 3: And that makes me think also there is something that
Speaker 3: we kind of borrow from LGBTQ culture, which is your
Speaker 3: chosen family. Yeah, these people you choose and who have
Speaker 3: chosen you in return. So even if you don't have
Speaker 3: great relationships with your blood relatives, right, you have this
Speaker 3: family who you are super grateful for and you want
Speaker 3: to celebrate with them, so you create this occasion to
Speaker 3: do that. I love that, z And so I think
Speaker 3: we're almost talking about friends Giving, and when we think
Speaker 3: about the evolution of it, some of it may be
Speaker 3: out of necessity. So if you can't afford to travel home,
Speaker 3: or if you have to do a pot luck style
Speaker 3: dinner because do you know how much.
Speaker 4: A turkey costs?
Speaker 1: Turkeys are expensive. I will never purchase a turkey. Write
Speaker 1: that in Stone. I will never purchase a turkey.
Speaker 3: So when you consider those things and then these other
Speaker 3: kind of emotional pools where you want to acknowledge these
Speaker 3: people who have supported you year round and who have
Speaker 3: helped you grow m you kind of have these converging
Speaker 3: factors that drive this new holiday.
Speaker 2: We're redefining family.
Speaker 3: We are, and we're also dignifying friendship.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: We talked about that in the What About Your Friend's episode,
Speaker 1: like we need to be giving our friendships way more
Speaker 1: weight than we give them, Like, our friends are so
Speaker 1: important to our lives, and.
Speaker 3: I think if you understand that, then you got to
Speaker 3: have a celebration. Yet, this is the bet Awards of friendship. Okay,
Speaker 3: the Emmys of friendship, the Grammys of friendship, that's.
Speaker 4: What friends giving it is.
Speaker 2: I need to find a dress, roll.
Speaker 3: Out the red carpet for the people you love. So,
Speaker 3: as we mentioned before, we're looking at celebration through the
Speaker 3: life of sociology.
Speaker 1: Sociology is the study of society, and that's the big umbrella.
Speaker 1: So that can be the development the structure of a
Speaker 1: society or how it functions, and you can also talk
Speaker 1: about like social relationships and institutions.
Speaker 2: So when we're talking.
Speaker 1: About the sociology of celebration, we're talking about how we
Speaker 1: behave cross culturally when a celebration occurs, whether it's planned
Speaker 1: or spontaneous.
Speaker 3: When we try to figure out some clues to help
Speaker 3: us characterize why we behave like this, why we enjoy celebration,
Speaker 3: and sometimes while we celebrate too much. We came across
Speaker 3: the Journal of Comparative Research and Anthropology and Sociology. They
Speaker 3: had a whole issue on celebration and these two authors,
Speaker 3: Rusu and Cantola laid out this great kind of way
Speaker 3: to navigate through celebration. If you think about celebration as
Speaker 3: a map. On most maps, you have a north, south, east,
Speaker 3: and west.
Speaker 4: Those are four coordinates. They give us three.
Speaker 3: Coordinates temporality, spatiality, and sociality.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's get into it.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about temporality. And this is all about time.
Speaker 3: So when we think about time as it relates to
Speaker 3: celebration celebrations are these disruptions in our day to day.
Speaker 3: I can remember as a kid somebody's birthday party happening
Speaker 3: on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: That was an anomaly, right, Yeah, we were gonna eat cake,
Speaker 1: we were gonna do all these things that we did
Speaker 1: not normally do on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Chuckie Cheese had the best pizza.
Speaker 4: Pizza is your celebration food.
Speaker 2: It really is, and it probably started with chuck E Cheese.
Speaker 3: But you almost find that when we think about these
Speaker 3: celebrations that are rooted in time, so religious holidays, they
Speaker 3: almost pattern our day to day. So if you think
Speaker 3: about our year going along in a circle, every time
Speaker 3: we hit March or April, there are some spring celebrations.
Speaker 3: Every time around the summer, there's Juneteenth or fourth of July,
Speaker 3: whatever you celebrate. Right, there's these things in every year
Speaker 3: when you come around, they almost pattern what our cycle
Speaker 3: of time looks like because they're a disruption every time,
Speaker 3: over and over again.
Speaker 2: Every year at the same time.
Speaker 3: Right, And so it's interesting we can think of these
Speaker 3: celebrations that's helping us shift from the monotony of this
Speaker 3: day to day kind of punch in, punch out clock
Speaker 3: in clock out. They add some excitement to our day
Speaker 3: to day lives.
Speaker 2: And it gives us something to look forward to.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes.
Speaker 3: And it feels a little crazy, right because you're saying, oh,
Speaker 3: we pattern time with these celebrations and they disrupt time.
Speaker 3: So if they disrupt time at the same time all
Speaker 3: the time, aren't they a pattern too.
Speaker 4: It's too much for my brain. It's like if we're
Speaker 4: going into exception.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I saw something else that was really interesting, and it
Speaker 3: talked about these two Greek words related to Greek mythology
Speaker 3: about time, So there was kronos and chiros. You can
Speaker 3: think of chronos as representing the godly personification is what
Speaker 3: this text says of linear, never ending quantitative time. So
Speaker 3: for me, chronos is the clock and we can think
Speaker 3: of chronological order right, linear.
Speaker 1: Time, right, But kiros is a little bit different. Chiros
Speaker 1: is like I'm just going off the vibes, right, And
Speaker 1: for me, that is what celebration time is, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the vibe when we're celebrating, Just show up when it's time.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that time we had a party and
Speaker 1: our friend Sean said she was gonna bring hamburger buns
Speaker 1: and she showed up so late.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And she showed up late.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, you're bringing a critical element
Speaker 1: because we're grilling out and we have burgers and hot dogs,
Speaker 1: and you were in charge of the vehicle buns for
Speaker 1: those meets.
Speaker 3: Sewn showing up when she felt like it was time
Speaker 3: to show up for me, that's Chiros, right, it's no.
Speaker 4: Real What is an hour? What is time? When the
Speaker 4: party starts?
Speaker 3: And I am a firm proponent of Kiro's when it
Speaker 3: comes to when a celebration ends. The party is over
Speaker 3: when we're dead.
Speaker 1: So the next element of the coordinates of celebration is spatiality,
Speaker 1: and that's all about where's the party at. Along with
Speaker 1: our routinized celebrations, this usually happens at a certain place. Right,
Speaker 1: So if you're celebrating passover, maybe you go to a
Speaker 1: satyr at your grandmother's house every year, or maybe if
Speaker 1: you're celebrating ed, you go to your uncle's house every year,
Speaker 1: and that's where all of that celebrating happens. But it
Speaker 1: happens in the same place, and so in your mind,
Speaker 1: as soon as you walk through those doors, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's time to celebrate for me and my family, it
Speaker 1: would alternate every year. For Thanksgiving, we would alternate between
Speaker 1: my uncle Jacob and Aunt Rachel's house. Then it would
Speaker 1: be at my house, so my parents would host Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and so we would just go back and forth and
Speaker 1: back and forth. And I think that's because my dad
Speaker 1: is the oldest of eight siblings, and then my uncle
Speaker 1: Jacob is his younger brother. He was right behind him,
Speaker 1: so they're kind of like the heads of the family,
Speaker 1: and so we just alternate between those two. It was
Speaker 1: always so much fun seeing all of my cousins and
Speaker 1: aunts and uncles and everything like that all in one place.
Speaker 4: What about u Z.
Speaker 3: I think for major holidays like Christmas, Thanksgiving, when we
Speaker 3: celebrated those growing up, we always went to my grandma's house,
Speaker 3: so my mom's mom the drive down there, I remember.
Speaker 4: It will be like so excited to go there.
Speaker 3: It was like an hour or so away from where
Speaker 3: we lived in Greensboro, and it was just a thing, right,
Speaker 3: you were just bubbling with excitement.
Speaker 1: Now we went there every other weekend. That wasn't a holiday,
Speaker 1: but it just hit different right now.
Speaker 4: It would have been like homecoming season.
Speaker 3: I can remember A and T Homecoming all right, geho,
Speaker 3: greatest homecoming on Earth. I didn't even go to A
Speaker 3: and T, but I grew up in the city where
Speaker 3: it was, so I felt like A and T's homecoming
Speaker 3: was always like another big holiday. People would come because
Speaker 3: a lot of my family members went there, so you
Speaker 3: would see family. It was like a mini Thanksgiving before Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: and we would go to my great aunt, my aunt Lina,
Speaker 3: we would go to her house. And so it's just
Speaker 3: interesting how as soon as we started talking about celebrations,
Speaker 3: I can pinpoint these different places for different celebrations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess we can zoom out a little bit.
Speaker 1: So it's like not even just specific for your family,
Speaker 1: but even like culturally as Americans, like when we think
Speaker 1: about celebrating New Year's Eve, we think of the ball
Speaker 1: dropping in Times Square. We might not necessarily be there,
Speaker 1: but it's just so iconic and ingrain into our minds
Speaker 1: that we think of that.
Speaker 2: When we think of New Year's.
Speaker 3: Eve, the spatiality aspect is really interesting because it can
Speaker 3: be a whole city, you know, like when we think
Speaker 3: about Mardi Gras in New Orleans and when we think
Speaker 3: about Running of the Bulls there are these places where
Speaker 3: these celebrations occur. And it can be broad like that,
Speaker 3: but it can also be really specific. So, right, if
Speaker 3: you normally eating your kitchen or your living room, but
Speaker 3: for big holidays, you guys all gather around a dining
Speaker 3: table and you use that special furniture.
Speaker 1: Hah, the special plates, Yeah, the napkins.
Speaker 3: That's a spatial queue, right, is almost reminiscent of some
Speaker 3: religious ceremonies and celebrations that happen in these sacred spaces
Speaker 3: or sanctuaries, right, And we're almost replicating that. There's something
Speaker 3: ritualistic about a lot of our celebrations anyway, and so
Speaker 3: here we see it appearing again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: Even if there isn't a special place for whatever you're
Speaker 1: trying to celebrate, we convert our existing spaces into a
Speaker 1: space for celebration. Absolutely, and that is literally what folks
Speaker 1: did for Friendsgiving. So we've touched temporality, which is time space,
Speaker 1: reality which is where are you? And now we're hitting sociality,
Speaker 1: which is how does it feel. It's the social aspect.
Speaker 3: So the togetherness you're kind of dropping those barriers is
Speaker 3: the vibes. It's really interesting because when you have a holiday.
Speaker 3: You got your core group of people that you always
Speaker 3: normally see, but then you always have some stragglers. You
Speaker 3: got that one cousin who shows up for Easter, you like,
Speaker 3: we haven't seen them all year, right, Or you have
Speaker 3: that aunt or uncle that you don't really deal with
Speaker 3: like that, but you're gonna keep it cute for the holiday, right.
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting. Even on a broader scale,
Speaker 3: even if you just zoom out, we can almost consider
Speaker 3: this as people being in the holiday spirit or having
Speaker 3: some holiday cheer.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm.
Speaker 3: It almost feels like community level or group level, we're
Speaker 3: all extending a little bit more grace.
Speaker 1: Yes, worldwide vibes and no one is supposed to be
Speaker 1: coming in and killing the vibe, and so sociality I.
Speaker 2: Think is key to a good celebration.
Speaker 3: But I think it's important to highlight sociality can go
Speaker 3: either way because that sense of community. You can either
Speaker 3: leverage it and make everybody feel equal, you can bring
Speaker 3: everybody in. And it really depends on your holiday because
Speaker 3: if you have a holiday that is built on power
Speaker 3: dynamics and access to certain things, it can also isolate too.
Speaker 3: So you want to be aware of that when you
Speaker 3: building your friends giving. Are you saying everybody got to
Speaker 3: bring a ball of asa space? Everybody can't do that.
Speaker 4: I won't be there.
Speaker 1: And some folks don't drink right, and so those are
Speaker 1: all the things to think about.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I had to really question my cookout style. Over the
Speaker 3: past couple of years, I've had more and more vegetarian friends. Oh,
Speaker 3: and I said, what do you have to offer them?
Speaker 3: Is it a celebration if they can only have a
Speaker 3: potato it's not.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yes, this happened to me because me and Jimmy do
Speaker 1: a holiday like dinner every year, and two dinners ago,
Speaker 1: so not the last one we did, but the one
Speaker 1: before that. We had some friends that showed up and
Speaker 1: I knew that they were vegetarians, and we tried to
Speaker 1: have some vegetarian options, but one was vegan and that
Speaker 1: just eliminated all options. There was literally nothing for them
Speaker 1: to eat. And I was mortified. I was messing up
Speaker 1: the sociality of my dinner party. I was killing the
Speaker 1: vibes from my vegan friends. But I know that they
Speaker 1: knew you meant well. They were good sports. I was
Speaker 1: crying into my hand, Queen of the hand was having
Speaker 1: a bad night. That just takes us to the next
Speaker 1: point about what happens when celebrations and the expectations around
Speaker 1: them get really high and they can add on a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: But we're not going to talk about it just yet.
Speaker 3: We're about to take a break, and when we come back,
Speaker 3: we'll jump right into the case for scaling back on celebrations.
Speaker 3: I know, seems a little counterintuitive, and how we'll continue
Speaker 3: to celebrate even when we can't be together.
Speaker 1: We're back, and now we're going to jump into the
Speaker 1: case for scaling back on celebrations. We have already talked
Speaker 1: in great detail about how we love to celebrate, but
Speaker 1: in some cases, some you kind of have to just
Speaker 1: fall back a little bit and chill.
Speaker 3: I think we have to make some points really clear.
Speaker 3: When we say we like to celebrate, we don't mean
Speaker 3: every time we have to take things to the top.
Speaker 3: I mean we like to find the celebratory moments even
Speaker 3: in the small things. Right, So it's like, hmm, this
Speaker 3: doctor Pepper has all the fizz. It's a parday, you know.
Speaker 4: It's all the little.
Speaker 3: Things, the little stuff when it happens things go the
Speaker 3: way you want, or even when things, don't. That's the
Speaker 3: time to really celebrate that we're just here and making
Speaker 3: it okay.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember one time when we were in grad
Speaker 1: school and I baked a batch of cookies and I
Speaker 1: took some to the kid's lab and she loved it.
Speaker 2: It was a celebration really for nothing.
Speaker 4: I love that kind of stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: I think we just need more moments of joy for ourselves, right,
Speaker 3: because if we are relying on it externally, the external
Speaker 3: world will fail.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: We see that we had all the twenty twenty and
Speaker 3: look at what he did. I'm so ashamed of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Right, you got to celebrate life while you still got it.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: But I think some people take it to the extreme
Speaker 3: on the other part. Right, it's not a party unless
Speaker 3: there are custom name cards for everybody, streamers hanging down,
Speaker 3: a minor explosion of viral techniques, and I'm just like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we don't need that for a birthday, for the first birthday,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, they won't even remember.
Speaker 2: This, right exactly.
Speaker 1: I think we've seen even this year some issues with
Speaker 1: some celebrations that went a little bit over the top,
Speaker 1: like the gender reveals that started wildfires in California and Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want us.
Speaker 1: To know what genitalia your child has, and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna burn down half the state.
Speaker 3: I think that's a little excessive, right, it is?
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: I think there's also a whole culture around celebrations. Some
Speaker 3: of this feels like I look at Pinterest, I say, Pinterest,
Speaker 3: you're giving people way too many ideas. My friend, her
Speaker 3: cousin was having a baby and she made a whole
Speaker 3: cake out of diapers. She was like, I have to
Speaker 3: find the right lace to tie around these diapers. I
Speaker 3: have to find the right ribbon and trimming. It was
Speaker 3: a Safari style thing, and she needed to find all
Speaker 3: these animals and glue them on. And I was like, girl,
Speaker 3: this feels more stress fold them anything.
Speaker 4: But it was a labor of love for her.
Speaker 2: I remember this.
Speaker 3: But I think social media is also a driver because honey,
Speaker 3: people start posting yes, doing it for the gram.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to do it for me.
Speaker 1: So another reason why people might be celebrating a lot
Speaker 1: could be because of this whole idea of globalization. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are starting to live farther and farther
Speaker 1: apart from each other. Because of the way technology is,
Speaker 1: we have the ability to stay in contact with people
Speaker 1: literally all over the world. Yes, the cultures are blending,
Speaker 1: so we have a lot more multicultural families, and social
Speaker 1: media is at.
Speaker 2: The wheel of this bus.
Speaker 1: We are over celebrating and oversharing and doing all of
Speaker 1: the extra things.
Speaker 3: And so it's going to be really interesting to see
Speaker 3: how this season of celebration plays out. With first everybody
Speaker 3: sharing on social media, with second, everybody supposed to be
Speaker 3: quarantining up until now.
Speaker 2: Right, y'all supposed to be social distancing.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how all these factors come together
Speaker 3: during this season of celebration.
Speaker 2: It's a unique time.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you something, baby, I'm zooming. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm zooming with y'all, And don't zoom by my house,
Speaker 3: especially not unannounced.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are talking about the web conferencing software. Do
Speaker 2: not zoom here.
Speaker 3: I'm all about togetherness, but let's be together.
Speaker 2: Virtually be together apart.
Speaker 3: This year, I'm gonna do a friends giving with a
Speaker 3: few people who have been in their homes NonStop and
Speaker 3: who are just as diligent about coronavirus safety protocols as
Speaker 3: I am, and then I'm zooming with everybody else they
Speaker 3: can also have the same thing we're having here. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be sharing my recipes.
Speaker 1: Yes, all of it, and I will be eating yes.
Speaker 1: So that's all I bring to the table. This is
Speaker 1: the reason why I've been so diligent over the last
Speaker 1: however many months. We've been social distancing because I knew
Speaker 1: this time would come. I knew that folks would mess
Speaker 1: us up, for all of us, and we would not
Speaker 1: be doing the normal fall time celebrations, and that friends
Speaker 1: giving would be affected. And I knew that my friend
Speaker 1: would still be cooking, and I know me, I want
Speaker 1: that food.
Speaker 2: So I said sacrifice now so you can enjoy the
Speaker 2: spoils later.
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