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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Sunday upon Us from

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Speaker 2: the mobile Fox Sports Radio Studios. I'm Mike Carbon alongside

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Speaker 2: me forty six years NFL films the NFL Matchup Show.

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Speaker 2: You hear him Thursdays, one pm Eastern, alongside Colin Coward.

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Speaker 2: He's a legend in the business. Honored to be with

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Speaker 2: him every Sunday morning. It's Greg CoA sell Greg. Another

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Speaker 2: beautiful Sunday upon Us.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is. Can you believe Mike it's week eight?

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Speaker 3: Where does the time go? You know?

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Speaker 2: I was looking at that a little bit and then

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Speaker 2: I looked in the mirror. I'm like, yeah, I'm due

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Speaker 2: for a haircut too. So that time, well, you get

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Speaker 2: buried in all the extra stuff.

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Speaker 3: We're doing an.

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Speaker 2: Extra film review, extra, you know, media sessions, and certainly

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Speaker 2: we've got if we wanted to just pick apart what

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Speaker 2: coaches and players had to say this week and never

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Speaker 2: actually look at a game, Greg, we could still do

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Speaker 2: an eight hour show.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing for me, Mike, just yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about the haircut part of it.

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Speaker 3: Because my younger daughter is a colorist and it's all

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Speaker 3: so I never have to worry about that part of it.

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Speaker 3: I get taken care of, you know.

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Speaker 1: Every time she walks Themut, I think that up, that

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Speaker 1: is not a bad way to be.

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Speaker 3: She takes care of my appointments and everything. I don't

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Speaker 1: How do I get on board that my daughter's just

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Speaker 1: help me?

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Speaker 3: Beat it?

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Speaker 1: Old man? Right, Just tough to do of our own.

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Speaker 2: It's a crazy week, as you said, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: the fact that it's already week eight is really a

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Speaker 2: bit frightening.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen so much. It has been been a

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Speaker 1: very topsy turvy week. I came out here.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Baltimore this week, see the Ravens and the Bears.

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Speaker 2: A little bit later on with my brothers, a big gathering.

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Speaker 2: They grab some friends and everybody got out here. I

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Speaker 2: was on the plane with the assumption yesterday I left

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Speaker 2: thinking I get Caleb Williams and Lebar Jackson. How lucky

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Speaker 2: am I I get off the plane. I don't have

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, that's kind of a weird situation. I couldn't begin

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Speaker 3: to tell you what to make of that, just because

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Speaker 3: we really don't have any idea, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll see. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: talk now that if he doesn't play Thursday. This is

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Speaker 3: only what I'm reading. I like, I said, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't have a pipeline to anyone if he doesn't play

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Speaker 3: this Thursday because they play Thursday night against Miami, that

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Speaker 3: he could be shut down for the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that escalated quickly right from sure to'spin to some

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Speaker 2: other language, and you know it's it's I'd be remiss

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Speaker 2: because of what I do with Jason Smith the five

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Speaker 2: days a week on the network in the evening. You know,

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Speaker 2: we always raise our hand and watch things run in parallel.

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Speaker 2: How much the NBA's situation of this week now will

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Speaker 2: influence a little bit how teams and or other organizations,

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Speaker 2: other professional leagues will will monitor these things. Because we've

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Speaker 2: always had the injury report and we all kind of understood,

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Speaker 2: you know, what it was about. But now certainly extra

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Speaker 2: scrutiny over this last week. So curiosity, no question here,

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Speaker 2: But talking to folks as I was around town here

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Speaker 3: How old is? How old is Lamar Jackson? Now? I

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Speaker 3: mean I know what is let me let me pull

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Speaker 3: That's that's not my point at all. He's a great player,

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Speaker 3: but at some point just the fact that he runs,

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Speaker 3: but at some point all that you know, I would imagine,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bria brionn Our producer at twenty eight years old

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Speaker 3: I mean, theoretically he should have many more good years left,

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Speaker 3: you know, as many quarterbacks do. So we'll see what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always that curiosity, right of what is the

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Speaker 2: he did? To your point, he's been pretty good about

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Speaker 2: a void the big hit through his career. But when

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Speaker 2: you're still running the ball one hundred times plus taking

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, can't go ahead.

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Speaker 3: No, It's funny you mentioned that because I worked with

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Speaker 3: something that always resonated with me. He said, people always

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Speaker 3: one hundred pounds more than you fall on you. You know,

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Speaker 3: So it's not the initial hit necessarily, but it's the

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Speaker 3: and again, he slides a lot. There's no question he

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Speaker 3: doesn't really take vicious hits. But you just wonder over

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Speaker 2: Go all the way through and you know, think about

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Speaker 2: the careers of guys like Cam Newton and others. You

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Speaker 2: know what I've always said, Greg, is I want, at

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Speaker 2: least from my estimation of it all, if I've got

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Speaker 2: need to change this guy. Well, now you take and

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Speaker 2: maybe some of that special sauce right bit away. Right,

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Speaker 2: so if it becomes a gestation period, a career length

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Speaker 2: like what Cam Newton had of eight years of really

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Speaker 1: I think you sign up for that, right.

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Speaker 3: And then I think playing to you hear that a

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Speaker 3: three weeks, you know. I mean, you're trying to win games,

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Speaker 1: God's it. In the end, nobody's playing for five years

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Speaker 2: I get to win on Sunday and then lather, rinse,

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Speaker 2: repeat again, zach Reis dubs and rally up as best

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Speaker 2: you can. So we started the week with a some

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Speaker 2: fireworks here in Los Angeles, yeah, and let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Mark qu ups of Justin Herbert for me, if you would, my.

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Speaker 2: So that's KF five. Matt money Smith on the call.

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Speaker 2: Chargers win thirty seven to ten. Justin Herbert and we

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Speaker 2: watched it that night. As soon as we saw the

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Speaker 2: a lot better about going against Brian Flores's defense, which

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Speaker 2: after time really didn't offer a whole lot of resistance.

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Speaker 2: As this thing started to get away, Greg Yeah, two

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Speaker 2: twenty seven three touchdowns, a pick, an almost pick. We

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Speaker 2: could talk about official reviews while we're at it now,

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Speaker 1: That another time.

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Speaker 2: Ladd McCaughey six eighty eight one. But Aronde Gadson got

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Speaker 2: the other guy who is stepped up. We remember his dad.

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Speaker 2: I still have a stack of his trading cards sitting around.

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Speaker 2: But for the second straight week and now he's one

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Speaker 2: a very favorite target of Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Three weeks in a row. The previous two weeks

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Speaker 3: he had seven catches. I think he had five this week,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you know Mike as a wide receiver and

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Speaker 3: While he's not fast in terms of a forty time,

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Speaker 3: them another dimension. But you know, it's funny you mentioned

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Speaker 3: the Vikings and what really struck me watching that game.

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Speaker 3: As you know, I watch as many games as I

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Speaker 3: can every week on the coaching tape, but it struck

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Speaker 3: the numbers the last two weeks against the Vikings blitz

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Speaker 3: that's something that Brian Flores will look at really hard

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Speaker 3: before their next game because it's just it's not sustainable.

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Speaker 3: The way teams the last two weeks, the Eagles and

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, the way they've attacked and had great success

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Speaker 2: wonder about the ceiling for the Chargers. But for Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was comfortable. They did a good job

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Speaker 2: the vicious hits that we'd seen. Again talking about the

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Speaker 2: than we have a lot of other Yeah, actually here

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Speaker 2: the last few weeks. But pretty clean pocket for him

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Speaker 3: Well, and you mentioned the run game. They had forty

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Speaker 3: He had sixty two yards scrambling and that was a

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Speaker 3: big factor in the game. And they controlled the ball

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Speaker 3: for more than thirty nine minutes. Very hard to win.

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Speaker 3: When the opposition has the ball for more than thirty

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Speaker 3: nine minutes, you don't get a lot of plays. I

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Speaker 3: think the Vikings in this game ran forty seven offensive plays, Mike,

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Speaker 3: and forty seven offensive plays in this league ain't going

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert had nearly double the rushing yards as the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a statue you want to put up

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Speaker 3: on the wall there. That's not very good.

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Speaker 1: Mason four for three, Jones five for fifteen.

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Speaker 3: And we'd be.

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Speaker 2: Remiss again if we didn't at least look at the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota side of things, because I was looking like I

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Speaker 2: After a while, it was it was sad because.

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Speaker 3: He's got the third most first down drop decks, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I would bet that most people would think it's all

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor and that Jones is the complimentary piece, when

436
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: in fact it's the other way around. Through their six

437
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Speaker 3: to one start.

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been fantastic, there's no question about it.

439
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: Great spot and for Shane Steich and substability that he'd

440
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: been lacking, right because we'd watched, oh for sure, position

441
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 2: for years and they were all great names, right, including

442
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: you know Joe Flacco whose picture is everywhere, by the way,

443
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 2: and every spot I stopped in in Baltimore last night

444
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: there was a poster or some reference to Joe Flacco

445
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: being elite once upon a time in Baltimore.

446
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Speaker 1: But you talk about him.

447
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: And Matt Ryan and all those guys that came through

448
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: what they tried to do with Anthony Richardson finally finding

449
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: some balance and stability here, it's an interesting spot.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, where Indianapoli, it's no question and there's.

451
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Speaker 3: No question that you know. I think what stood out

452
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Speaker 3: when I watched their tape and I think that this

453
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: is a Shane Stikeen thing. They've done a great job

454
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Speaker 3: with this. He does an excellent job creating define windows

455
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: for Jones that allows him to play with decisiveness and efficiency.

456
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: You see route concepts where the read is clean. There's

457
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,239
Speaker 3: a lot of what we call levels concepts. Receivers at

458
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: different levels high low concepts. The kinds of concepts might

459
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Speaker 3: that really define it for a quarterback cleanly, because the

460
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Speaker 3: one thing you don't see, which of course you did

461
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Speaker 3: see a lot in New York when Jones played behind

462
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Speaker 3: a poor all line is he's never getting stuck in

463
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Speaker 3: the pocket. You don't see him drop back and just okay,

464
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: where am I going with the football? Now? He's playing

465
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Speaker 3: with high level decisiveness and he he's very efficient right now.

466
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Speaker 3: And you know the other thing about the Colts, which

467
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: really speaks to their overall offense. They've run more red

468
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: zone plays than any team in the NFL, and they've

469
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Speaker 3: scored the most red zone touchdowns. And if you do that,

470
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Speaker 3: you're going to have a pretty good offense.

471
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Speaker 2: Operational efficiency in the red zone. The last thing anybody

472
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Speaker 2: wants to see as a kicker, Sorry.

473
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Speaker 3: I would agree with that. By the way, you don't

474
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Speaker 3: have to convince you of that.

475
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Speaker 1: No, that's it, though it might be become one of

476
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Speaker 1: the commandments of the show.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't want to see a kicker trotting out, even

478
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: though on Brandon Aubrey and those guys are entertaining as

479
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: can be coming out.

480
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Speaker 1: What's it sixty three? Okay, let's see what he's got.

481
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Speaker 3: No, I'd rather address that guy's going to kick a

482
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Speaker 3: seventy yard field goal. There's no question about that. An opportunity, yeah,

483
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Speaker 3: I have, he's definitely going to do that.

484
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Speaker 2: Might be looking at some of that today in the

485
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Speaker 2: mile High Air. We'll get to that game a little

486
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Speaker 2: bit later on. But a big game on Sunday night

487
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Speaker 2: football forty five and a half to total Green.

488
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Speaker 1: Bay at two and a half point.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

490
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Speaker 2: As Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers await the Packers, there

491
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: were a bunch of Packers fans on the plane. I

492
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: really thought there was gonna be a brawl between the

493
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Speaker 2: Bears fans traveling across country.

494
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Speaker 1: And the Packer fans.

495
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: No, they sat and they wondered aloud of what their

496
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: teams were going to become. But here was a quote

497
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Speaker 2: from Aaron Rodgers a little bit earlier in the week,

498
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Speaker 2: Greg to set the table as we get ready for

499
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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 6: I don't have any animosity toward the organization. Obviously, I

501
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 6: wish that, you know, things have been better in our

502
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 6: last year there, but you know, have a great relationship

503
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Speaker 6: with a lot of people still in that organization, and

504
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 6: this is not a revenge game for me. I was

505
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 6: excited to see some of those guys and be on

506
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Speaker 6: st Night Football again.

507
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Speaker 1: Now.

508
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: We chuckled as we talked about Rogers a little bit

509
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: during the week because after he beat the Jets, he

510
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: was very happy to have beaten every person associated with

511
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Speaker 2: the Jets. So I love this smile and the bright

512
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: eyed Aaron Rodgers. But don't tell me he doesn't want

513
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Speaker 2: to hang forty on these guys.

514
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Speaker 3: Well, there's no question. That's just the nature of competition.

515
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: But you know, the Steelers are a fascinating offense to

516
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: watch because they are really a base personnel offense. They're

517
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: not really a passing team in a strict sense. They've

518
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: played the highest percentage of what we call thirteen personnel

519
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: when you play with three tight ends. And in fact,

520
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: Darnell Washington believe it. I have it from a good

521
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: source that he's probably more in the three hundred pound

522
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Speaker 3: range as a tight end than he is at two

523
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: sixty five or two seventy. He's really another offensive tackle

524
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: out there, although he does have very good hands, which

525
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: is odd. But this is a team that plays a

526
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Speaker 3: ton out of you know, base personnel, and we saw

527
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 3: in their last game against the Bengals, we saw Washington

528
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: make some big time blocks. You know, we can say

529
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: the same thing about the Niners. We'll probably get to

530
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Speaker 3: that game as well, because they have a good one.

531
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Speaker 3: But when your tight end can block defensive ends or

532
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Speaker 3: outside linebackers who were on the ball on the edge

533
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: one on one, particularly defensive ends, what that does for

534
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: your run game is just you can't really put a

535
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: number on it. It's unbelievable how that helps your run game.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm certainly seeing more efficiency from Jalen Warren and

537
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: that was one of the big questions coming into the season.

538
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: Greg was trying to figure out how they'd establish a balance. Obviously,

539
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: it was great to have Friarmouth back in full of

540
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: for them in that last game against Cincinnati, as you mentioned,

541
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Speaker 2: with the thirteen personnel, but being able to deploy him

542
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Speaker 2: in John news Smith, who's coming off an eighty eight

543
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: catch year last year. I think Miami would want him

544
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: back anyway. All of that to say that you're still

545
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: looking at it, and a guy in Rogers that you know,

546
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: people still skeptical off of the early four and two

547
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: and some of what we've seen thus far. You know,

548
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: what do you see in you know, which is still

549
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: driving with the same effectiveness downfield?

550
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Speaker 1: What's changed on his tape?

551
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Yes, I mean I think he still can

552
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: throw the ball beautifully. I don't think he's one of

553
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: those guys that could probably wake up when he's seventy

554
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 3: and throw the ball like that. He and Joe Flacco

555
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: could probably both do that. So I don't think there's

556
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: an issue with how he throws it. Obviously doesn't move

557
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: quite the same way that he once did. He's not

558
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: going to make as many plays off schedule, which was

559
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: sort of a staple of his game in his prime

560
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: years with the Packers. But as far as throwing the football,

561
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: I think he's fine. I just don't I think that

562
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Speaker 3: the way this offense is structured, and certainly with Author Smith,

563
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: you have to remember Author Smith has a certain belief

564
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: in how he wants to play as well, So I

565
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: don't think that they built the offense around Rogers. I mean,

566
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 3: keep in mind we talked about the multiple tight ends

567
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: they played with six o lignemen. Warren had sixteen rushes

568
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: last week against the Bengals, fifteen of them. Fifteen of

569
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: the sixteen came out of multiple tight end and six

570
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: to zero line personnel. He was fifteen for one, fifteen

571
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: out of multiple tight end and six oh line personnel.

572
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: I think that's the way they want to play, and

573
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: can they do that against the Packers. They're going to

574
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: try to do that against the Packers for sure.

575
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: Curiosity of trying to play bully ball that way, I

576
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: mean it's like a you know, an exaggerated version of

577
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: the tush push when you've got that much beef in

578
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: front of you at Greg.

579
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Speaker 1: As you look at it. Right on the other side,

580
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: for the Packers, there's been a lot of Josh Jacobs.

581
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Speaker 1: When we look at jorli a length thus far.

582
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, sixty nine percent completion for him, ten

583
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: touchdowns against two picks. I guess the question that I'm

584
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: hundred here that offensive line. We saw the PA the

585
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: Steelers pass rush really rise up for three games, but

586
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: then they were dormant against Flacco and the bank Ribles

587
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: a week ago. You know, how much do we expect,

588
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: you know, Jordan Love to be on the move in

589
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: this one, and what have you seen from him in

590
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: the first six month.

591
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how you feel about it,

592
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: but Jordan Love is a guy that, to me, no

593
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: one talks about. And it's It's very interesting because he's

594
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: only in his third year as a starter and he's

595
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: played extremely well, and I think that he's developing in

596
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: the way you would expect him to develop. I think

597
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: there's sort of an efficiency to his game. Now. Will

598
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: he make a reckless throw here and there, just because

599
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: he's so gifted throwing the ball, Yes, he will, and

600
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: you'll live with that. But for the most part, I

601
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: think that he's sort of settled in every play doesn't

602
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: have to you don't have to chase plays. That's a

603
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: term I heard from a coach and I love that term.

604
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: He doesn't chase chase plays as much as he used to,

605
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: and he takes what's there and he's now playing with

606
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: more efficiency. They are another team that likes to play

607
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: with multiple tight ends. We've seen what Tucker Craft has

608
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: done over this last year year and a half, he's

609
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: become one of the better tight ends in the league.

610
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: And the last two weeks Jacobs and the run game,

611
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: which I think is what Matt Lafleur would really like

612
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: foundationally to be his offense to look like they've started

613
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: to be able to run the ball with greater efficiency

614
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: as well.

615
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Speaker 2: What's been curious, right is the and they did it

616
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: last year was the great graphic that we used to

617
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: chuckle about was just looking at the receiving yardage chart

618
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: for the Packers, like they have X number of receivers

619
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Speaker 2: at four hundred yards or whatever, and you know that

620
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: operational efficiency and not having to be myopic and trying

621
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: to force the ball into guys. So we look at Dobbs,

622
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: it looks like Christian Watson's on the return, so you

623
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: know you'll get him back in the mix as well.

624
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: But Tucker Craft currently they're leading receiver in terms of yardage.

625
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'd almost forgotten about Christian Watson. It seems

626
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: like he hasn't played in a long time. And obviously

627
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: they drafted Matthew Golden who's becoming a bit of a factor.

628
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, they don't have the one guy that's necessarily

629
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: going to be targeted, you know, twelve thirteen times a game,

630
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: so they throw it to a lot of guys, but

631
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: it's it's a good offense and love. To me, I've

632
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: always said this about love, and maybe one day he'll

633
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: be thought of this way. But I think just in

634
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: terms of talent at the position, he's probably in the

635
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: top five or six in the league. In terms of

636
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: just physical and athletic traits at the position.

637
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: Eight point two yards per attempt this year, averaging about

638
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty yards per game. That was always

639
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: a curiosity right then when he got drafted and it

640
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: was all the handwringing.

641
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: I tried to stump for that.

642
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't claim a lot of victory laps, but I

643
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: trusted the process of what the Packers right, right right,

644
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: you're right, I mean they did it, you know, the

645
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: handoffs that they had. Look, I remember Don mccowski beating

646
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: the Bears as a child, Greg, so I got.

647
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: You go, Don mccowski, the magic Man exactly.

648
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: With that flared hair and all of that.

649
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: But you go all the way down the line is

650
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: that organizational stability still trumps everything, and we have very

651
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: few organizations that we've been able to hold up to

652
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: that to that standard in the in the NFL with

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Speaker 2: the Packers doing that and allowing him to come along.

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Speaker 2: And I guess maybe this is the the old school

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Speaker 2: side of me. It's like, if you have the luxury

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Speaker 2: of drafting a guy to learn, even if the guy

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Speaker 2: is in a great hands on one on one teacher

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Speaker 2: by osmosis and being in those film rooms and practice

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Speaker 2: fields and everything, you're going to get better to when

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Speaker 2: you finally get your opportunity as opposed to, well, you're

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Speaker 2: the shiny new toy that we did our marketing plan around.

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Speaker 2: You may not be ready to play NFL football, but

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Speaker 2: get out there. So I think he got the best

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Speaker 2: you know service done for him as well that he

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Speaker 2: wasn't forced immediately.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing too is they're not throwing the

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Speaker 3: ball a ton and you know, again, he's he's played

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Speaker 3: one less game than a lot of other you know

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Speaker 3: people because they had to buy. But in terms of

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Speaker 3: the number of dropbacks that he's had, he's he's down

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Speaker 3: closer to the by him in the league than the

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Speaker 3: top of the league. So they're not saying every week,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love, you've got to go out and win football games.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's very hard to play that way in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, when every week you ask your quarterback to

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Speaker 3: be the reason you win or the reason you have

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Speaker 3: to win. It's just too hard to play that way

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Speaker 3: in the league. Defenses are too good and they're not

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Speaker 3: really asking him to do that. But he's capable of

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Speaker 3: doing that in any given game.

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Speaker 2: Only two times this year has he gone above thirty

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Speaker 2: passing attempts, once against Wahington just thirty one. There forty

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Speaker 2: three in that wild game against Dallas back at the

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Speaker 2: end of September, one of the highlights of the first

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Speaker 2: seven weeks. As we began the show, yes it is

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Speaker 2: week eight in the National Football League season. Already pretty

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Speaker 2: soon you'll all be putting up your holiday decorations, but

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Speaker 2: not yet. Got a little bit of time before you

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Speaker 2: got to do that. At Greg Cosalaz, where you find

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Speaker 2: him in the Twitter verse. Check out everything he's got

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Speaker 2: going the video highlights and matchups and everything he's got

692
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Speaker 2: the NFL Matchup Show, and then you hear him every

693
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Speaker 2: Thursday one pm Eastern with Colin Cowherd to break down

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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty minutes of audio and video greatness, and

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Speaker 2: then we're blessed to have them to for two hours

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Speaker 2: each and every Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carbon.

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Speaker 2: You can find me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue,

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Speaker 2: we'll keep going down our run of the big games

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Speaker 2: of the day. I alluded to Dallas and finishing off

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Speaker 2: the Jordan Love commentary, why don't we head to that

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Speaker 2: game because that is a marquee game. Next it's Dallas,

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Speaker 2: it's Denver. What do we get out of Denver after

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Speaker 2: that wild Week seven finish? We'll talk about it next

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Speaker 2: year on Fox Welcome back in Fox Sports Radios, Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside Greg CoA Sell, having a

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Speaker 2: blast with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: It goes so fast.

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Speaker 2: Six teams on a bye one game already in the

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Speaker 2: books and a big slate ahead. You find Greg on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Greg Cosell. Find me over at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us here early on a Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: as you're getting out and about and ready to attack

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Speaker 2: it day with a ferocity so intense. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: steal the Jim Harbaugh line and fire people up as

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Speaker 2: we go. Greg, you know, get people jacked up for

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Speaker 2: a big Sunday of NFL action, one of the marquee

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Speaker 2: games here, and this is a get your popcorn ready

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Speaker 2: kind of moment. Is when we talk about this Dallas

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Speaker 2: and Denver game. Let's start with the Dallas offense for

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Speaker 2: a second, mister Mark, if you would please get it

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Speaker 2: for the fourth five Prescott tell me, bears it out

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Speaker 2: deep down the field.

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Speaker 7: See breaks the tackle, flowing home touchdown Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I just like the analyst.

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Speaker 2: Because there it was the big play to zd Lamb

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Speaker 2: forty four to twenty two year final pick your poison,

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Speaker 2: Cede lambbag George Pickens. We talk about Jake ferguson the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, and of course Javonte Williams no

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Speaker 2: slouch himself. Dak Prescott has himself an offense putting up

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Speaker 2: points for days.

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Speaker 3: Greg. Yeah, and you know it's funny. We we just

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Speaker 3: heard that seventy four yard touchdown to Lamb. That was

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Speaker 3: a brilliant play by Prescott. And the reason I say that,

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Speaker 3: and I think people will be able to visualize this,

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Speaker 3: that was a route concept that we called dagger. And

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Speaker 3: what that means, Mike is there's an inside vertical route

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Speaker 3: and then the outside dig route. So the inside vertical

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Speaker 3: route is just meant to clear out because you want

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Speaker 3: to throw the ball to the dig ninety nine point

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Speaker 3: nine percent of the time that's where you throw the football.

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Speaker 3: But what happened is is Prescott saw the safety Savage

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Speaker 3: take away the dig route to Tolbert, so he went

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Speaker 3: over the top to Lamb because it was a two

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Speaker 3: shell coverage, meaning the middle was open. So that was

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Speaker 3: really high level quarterbacking by Prescott, who's playing at a

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Speaker 3: very high level. And you know, the way I do

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Speaker 3: my work, just so people understand, is I don't look

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Speaker 3: at numbers. I watch the tape and then when I

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Speaker 3: see something, I'll look at numbers to see, oh, do

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Speaker 3: the numbers reflect what I'm seeing. So I've obviously watched

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys all season and I'm seeing, boy, they're really

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Speaker 3: good on play actions. So I looked up their Prescott's

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Speaker 3: play action numbers this year. They're off the charts. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna read them to you because I wrote them

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Speaker 3: down because I had to Prescott and play action Mike

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Speaker 3: is sixty for seventy one, sixty for seventy one, eighty

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Speaker 3: four point five percent completion percentage, seven touchdowns, no interceptions,

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Speaker 3: and half of those have come where he's under center,

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Speaker 3: which is I always believe is the better way to

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Speaker 3: run play action. But their play action pass game has

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Speaker 3: been silly good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been amazing to watch as we look at

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Speaker 2: we're getting close towards the trade deadline and a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff on the wins, you know, and Jerry saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe we go back into the marketplace because there's certainly

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Speaker 2: a couple of teams struggling.

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Speaker 3: We may try to get a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: You may go get one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, they had one at one point, I think didn't

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Speaker 3: they Well.

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Speaker 1: You know what, they kind of liked him.

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Speaker 2: That's one I think there's gonna be a bunch of

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Speaker 2: books written about Greg in terms of how that all

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Speaker 2: process all came to play in it. You know, as

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Speaker 2: much as I love the player of Micah Parks is

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Speaker 2: like part of me is always the all right if

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Speaker 2: you pay him, and that's you know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny money.

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Speaker 2: It's not my money whatever, but you know, trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out your roster build and all those kind of things,

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Speaker 2: like what's he worth to you on a win total?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you try to average it, you never know,

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Speaker 1: but you have no idea like how it's going to

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Speaker 1: show all.

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Speaker 3: Oh, for sure, there's one thing he can do. And

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Speaker 3: we saw that last week. And we didn't mention this

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Speaker 3: when we spoke about the Green Bay game. But I

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Speaker 3: go back to Bill Walsh. Okay, and people might remember

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Speaker 3: Bill Walsh. I'm sure some do. One of the greatest

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Speaker 3: coaches of all time, won Super Bowls with the Niners

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Speaker 3: in the eighties, and he always said one of the

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Speaker 3: deciding factors in the NFL is pass rush in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. And we saw that last week with Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see. You know, the thing about the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: is they have everything you want from an offensive perspective

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Speaker 3: every dimension. They've run the ball really well. Tavante Williams

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Speaker 3: has not really been talked about much at all because

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Speaker 3: of their past game, but he's among the league leaders

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Speaker 3: in rushing yards. They've got Pickens, who's your classic boundary X,

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Speaker 3: meaning the single receiver to the short side of the

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Speaker 3: field who can win one on one. And then they've

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Speaker 3: got Lamb who's your classic kind of movement receiver. He

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Speaker 3: normally lines up to the wide side of the field,

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Speaker 3: he can run any route, he can work off motion.

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Speaker 3: They've got a quality tight end in Ferguson, who is

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Speaker 3: a real compliment to those guys. From an offensive standpoint.

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Speaker 3: They pretty much have everything you want from a skill

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Speaker 3: position perspective.

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Speaker 1: Well, we look at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had the Michael Parsons hat trick last week,

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Speaker 2: just to put it in perspective. The big game that

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Speaker 2: he put up on Arizona. Now on the Denver side

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Speaker 2: of things, one of the wildest games. Oh boy, decent memory,

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Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty two year final, that fourth quarter for.

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Speaker 3: The You predicted that, right, You predicted they'd get thirty

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Speaker 3: three in the fourth?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, while giving up thirteen in the fourth, right,

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Speaker 2: right right? Part of the two, wasn't it. They just

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Speaker 2: shut them down entire Yeah, yeah, right. But for Bo

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Speaker 2: Nixon company, a wild finish, he joked at the podium.

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Speaker 2: He was ready to have the explanations of well if

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Speaker 2: they'd gotten shut out, but instead they get a wild win.

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Speaker 2: I don't know other than succeed and proceed what you

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Speaker 2: take from that in the way they yeah finished.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, honestly, I knew I'd be asked

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Speaker 3: a lot about that this week, and I watched that

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Speaker 3: tape carefully both sides. I don't have a brilliant answer.

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Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't like all of a sudden they

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Speaker 3: started doing this. You know, there were a number of

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Speaker 3: one on one plays where they made them, where Sutton,

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Speaker 3: you know, was one on one and he made plays.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Nix was phenomenal in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: with his numbers. He wasn't sacked. He was sixteen for

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Speaker 3: twenty five for one seventy four. It kind of started

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Speaker 3: late in the third quarter. But and I'm just being honest,

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Speaker 3: I don't have a brilliant answer for what changed in

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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 1: Five and two now are the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it sets up a beautiful game here

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Speaker 2: in Denver with Dallas coming to bear because Denver's still

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Speaker 2: a top five defense in terms of points allowed.

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Speaker 3: Without question, and they can rush the quarterback and that'll

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Speaker 3: be very interesting because I think the Cowboys on the

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Speaker 3: edge are still not as good as you'd like to

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Speaker 3: be with their two tackles in one on one pass pro.

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Speaker 2: He's Greg Coasell at Greg Coasell where you find him

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Speaker 2: in the Twitter verse. NFL Films forty six years the

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Speaker 2: NFL Matchup Show and every Thursday with our guy Colin

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Speaker 2: Coward here at one pm Eastern find me at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll take a Twitter trip towards the

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Speaker 2: planet Houston and the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in hour two of the program Fox Football Sunday,

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Speaker 2: we get things started hour two. Get your wedded appetite,

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Speaker 2: because we got Flacco, we got Cousins, we got Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. Those are three of the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Watch goat in the competition later on today as we

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Speaker 2: get things going here Week eight in Arnest one game

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Speaker 2: in the book, Six teams on Buys. Welcome into another

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Speaker 2: beautiful NFL Sunday Here on Fox Sports Radio. Mike Garment

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Speaker 2: alongside me forty six years NFL films, the NFL Matchup Show,

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Speaker 1: It's great coasale at great coachlle How you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great? Got another out here looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: We're racked up and rolling along as we get closer

870
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: to kickoff here the one pm games, no London game

871
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: this week, get a little reprieve from the European contest,

872
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 2: which I know a lot of folks on the West

873
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: Coast really do a lot of complaining about in the

874
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: hallways at Fox Sports Radio, Greg like, come on, man,

875
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know what, you're just gonna set

876
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: an alarm or you know, trust that that guy that

877
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: was getting your lineup doesn't get downgraded. Of course, in

878
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: today's NFL I've talked about a little bit last hour.

879
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: You know, just because the guys have quote full participant

880
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 2: in practice really doesn't mean a whole lot anymore.

881
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: We do have what we still have two more European

882
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: Games though right coming up we do next couple of weeks.

883
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get back into those in artists here in

884
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks. So you're not done with

885
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: them yet, No, that is true. But but certainly for

886
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: this week, which we talk about the big bye week.

887
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: Four teams next week, but six for this week, including

888
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions taking a week off the Jaguars. Just

889
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: when I start getting excited about the Jaguars. Greg, They well,

890
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: they do things to make me less, so I'm trying

891
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: to be nice because otherwise, you know, the the non

892
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: FCC compliant off air going.

893
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: What am I seeing, Trevor. I believed in you. What happened.

894
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: So we've got they're on a buy as well. We

895
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: go through the schedule as a whole. It's got some

896
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: great spots in it for us. We've gone through a

897
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: few of the games, the rest of the teams on

898
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: by Vegas, the Rams hoping to get Poka Nakua back

899
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: out of the bye week, Arizona, the questions, you know,

900
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett moved them really well. Kyler Murray always a guy,

901
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: that's his name, sparks a lot of debate, Greg. And

902
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 2: then we got the Seattle Seahawks. Hopefully their defense gets

903
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: fully back in full session when they get.

904
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: Back football though, Mike, they're playing good football.

905
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, love the love the offense.

906
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Look at the offensive play calling right, the most running percentage,

907
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: highest running percentage in the NFL between what Kenneth Walker

908
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: the third does and Charbonnay now the touchdown Vulture.

909
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Sorry, fantasy owners, they don't run it great, but they

910
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: run it a lot, but.

911
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: That's just it, right, being being committed to even if

912
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: it's three yards and a cloud of dust that the

913
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: concussive blows over time opened something downfield. And obviously Smith

914
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: and Jigba is just next world as a watch of

915
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: the relationship he and Sam Donald and put together.

916
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny. Just I know they're not

917
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: playing this week, but I remember going back to when

918
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: they signed Cooper Cup. And you remember last year, because

919
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: they had Metcalf, they had locket that Smith Nijigba last

920
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: year as a rookie ended up playing predominantly in the slot.

921
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: I think it was a rookie last year, right, there's

922
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: only a second year, a third year, third year, right,

923
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: But last year he played predominantly in the slot. And

924
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: I remember so many people said when they signed Cup,

925
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: they said, what are they doing? They've got a slot receiver.

926
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: And I just thought to myself, I said, you know,

927
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: first of all, that's so silly to say. For this reason.

928
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: Number one, we live in a world where there's so

929
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: much formation variation, there's so much motion. Teams line up

930
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: with receivers and what we call reduced splits where they're

931
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: closer to the line of scrimmage. They're closer to the

932
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: tackles or the tight end, the attached tight end. So

933
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: to me, that argument made no sense at all. But

934
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: the bottom line is about eighty percent of his snaps

935
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: this year he's been an outside receiver, and my guess

936
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: is they probably knew he could do that, and that's

937
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: why they had no compunction whatsoever about signing Cooper cup.

938
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Shuffle up and deal.

939
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 2: I was wondering if with Tyler Lockett getting his release,

940
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: whether he'd find his way back to Seattle to help

941
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: bolster that receiving corps. But it's a lot of transactions

942
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: to come here as the trade deadline on November fourth.

943
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: So looking for the activity, there a lot of rumor, conjectures.

944
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: Speculations it's coming up.

945
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun time.

946
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of big activity already, but certainly

947
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: more in the offing. Now back to the games on

948
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: the slate, We've got an NFC East battle, the return

949
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: bout and Jalen Hurts looking to make some waves even

950
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: without one of his big weapons.

951
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: But here he is from last week, or maybe.

952
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 8: Not urch fakes Paris. He's looking he is going deep.

953
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 8: He looked the funks a Smith, he hasn't twenty fifteen

954
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 8: ten five ton fu tis that beat rugs.

955
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: There, you go, big play for Smith and looking to

956
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: get him going. Today they'll be without a j. Brown,

957
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: so one piece of that passing devone and trying to

958
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: find and so sort of this offense out has been

959
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: kind of curious, right when we look at the efficiency

960
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: with which Jalen Hurts from passing perspective, He's at seventy

961
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: three percent, eleven touchdowns at a pick fifteen hundred yards.

962
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: But the run game hasn't been consistent. We know Brown's

963
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: been unhappy at times.

964
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: With his usage.

965
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: So you know, not too shabby to still be winning

966
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: football games, but maybe just covering and putting some extra

967
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: paint over some stuff that's brewing under the surface.

968
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: No, and Hurts played a terrific game last week. You

969
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: know it's funny the play that we just heard my

970
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: good buddy Merril reach there getting still getting excited after

971
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: doing it. Rates got I think Merrill started in the seventies.

972
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: He's awesome. But play that was the second play of

973
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: the third quarter. And this is one reason I love

974
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: Tate Mike, because they ran that same personnel package and

975
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: formation twice in the first half. Okay, the first time

976
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: they ran it, they handed to Barkley, he gained four yards.

977
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 3: The second time they ran it, they had a holding

978
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: call in myolotta. But the reason I'm mentioning that is

979
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: they saw when they ran that personnel grouping information how

980
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: Harrison Smith lined up. So when they came back to

981
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: it on the second play of the third quarter, they

982
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: knew because Smith was going to drop down because they

983
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: had six offensive linemen on the field. Okay, they knew

984
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 3: Smith would drop down, and they knew that DeVonta Smith

985
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: would be one on one with Rogers, So they just

986
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: knew what they were going to get from a coverage perspective.

987
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: And Jalen Hurts throws as good a deep ball as

988
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: anybody in the league. And that was I mean, that

989
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: was probably sixty yards in the air, and you couldn't

990
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: have handed it to him any better.

991
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: Now, that was a fantastic play. Meryl Reach nineteen seventy seven,

992
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: according to.

993
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: My man Merrill. Yeah, go, of course, you know, being

994
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: in this area, I've known Meryll for years and years.

995
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: He's the best.

996
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: Eighty three years old, still getting at it. I hope

997
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm yelling with that same level I got.

998
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: I mean it sounded like a young man there. He

999
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: was exactly.

1000
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well and obviously excited when you get to

1001
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: on Cork a long one because as we talk about

1002
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: how disjoined it, it's been this is interesting, interesting game

1003
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: this week, right, you get the giant squad that they

1004
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: lost to earlier in the season. They're coming off of

1005
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: that crushing game that we just talked about against Denver

1006
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: and you know, trying to get yourself right back up

1007
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: for this kind of game.

1008
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it interesting.

1009
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: I would say this two weeks ago when they lost

1010
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: that was probably the eagles worst defensive performance of the season.

1011
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: Number one Jaylen Carter did not play. Number two Quinon

1012
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: Mitchell got hurt after thirteen snaps. You know, this is

1013
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: not Vic Fangio's first rodeo. He's been doing this a

1014
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: long time. There were a lot of assignment mistakes and

1015
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 3: problems in that game two weeks ago, which is uncharacteristic

1016
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 3: of a Vic Fanjo defense. I would strongly believe that's

1017
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: not going to happen again.

1018
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Now.

1019
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Eagles are going to win the game.

1020
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: You know, that's why they play him obviously, but I

1021
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: would doubt that the game will play out the same way.

1022
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we look at it thirty four to seventeen.

1023
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: Was that one the smashing, battering ram that is scatterbo

1024
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: and Jackson Dart doing his magic in that one, But

1025
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: certainly from pillar to post without Carter able to do

1026
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: the smash mouth football and get after it in a

1027
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: way that well, most teams don't get you against that Philadelphia.

1028
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what was most intriguing about the game,

1029
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: the end of the game, when they lined up with

1030
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 3: three tight ends and just ran the ball on that

1031
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: final drive they got the ball with six minutes and

1032
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: fifty seconds to go, the Giants did, and they ran

1033
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: out the clock, and they did it just running the football.

1034
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: They physically handled the Eagles defensive front, and again Carter

1035
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: was not in the game. I would doubt that's going

1036
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: to happen this time.

1037
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: This is one of those scheduling situations where I just

1038
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: throw my hands up and say, why the hey, here's

1039
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: one division game, then play one opponent, and then come

1040
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: back and do this again.

1041
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: I understand there's a lot of logistics that have to

1042
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: go on.

1043
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Greg, but that won't stop me from complaining about these

1044
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: kind of situations because we see him in the middle

1045
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: of the season and then we certainly see them towards

1046
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: the back end as well to where it's I don't

1047
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: know what we strive, especially when we talk about how

1048
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: important divisional.

1049
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: Uh, the division still matters, right, I mean in terms

1050
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: of the playoff stuff. So to do it like this

1051
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: and scheduling it just always approa a.

1052
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: Big game for the Giants, Mike, because they've played much better,

1053
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: much more competitively in the four games that Dart has started.

1054
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: They've been much better on third down. You've got to

1055
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: deal with his running, his scrambling. I mean, they spied

1056
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: him on the first drive in that game two weeks ago,

1057
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: and you know, it's great to spy a guy, but

1058
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: then you got to tackle him. You know. I work

1059
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: with Darius Butler and he said something to me this

1060
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: week which really resonated. You know, we were talking about spying,

1061
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: you know, on athletic quarterbacks. He said, the spy concept's

1062
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: great Monday to Saturday, but then you get in the

1063
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: game and you got to tackle him, you know, and

1064
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: that's not so easy.

1065
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: Well, especially a guy like Dart that's willing to throw

1066
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: his body into it, right, He's not, you know, dancing

1067
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: into the secondary.

1068
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: He'll learn eventually.

1069
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna have to be care I think he's

1070
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: been in the blue tent in every game that he started,

1071
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 3: so he's gonna have to be a little careful.

1072
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: Well, they just got fined three hundred and fifteen dollars

1073
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: for that staff who there, right, Dable two hundred Ku

1074
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: Scatabo got fined a few bucks for going to check

1075
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: in on his teammates. So uh yeah, some well, we

1076
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: we get into all the injury stuff. We do a

1077
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: lot of the the hand ringing of trying to figure out,

1078
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: you know, the processes, procedures, et cetera. For the Giants,

1079
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: they do get Graham Gano back for you for you

1080
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: all looking for a kicker for your fantasy efforts later

1081
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: on today.

1082
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: There you go. I mentioned the kicker once this.

1083
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't have any response for that.

1084
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: That's okay, I just commit him a party, party follow

1085
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: I think Greg and the larger, larger standpoint, how about

1086
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: San Francisco Houston? Real quick as we go around here,

1087
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: more of Mac Jones, no Nicocollins for the Yeah, for

1088
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: the Texans, which means some of these youngsters really have

1089
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: to grow up fast. Noel's been a bigger part of

1090
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: their offense the last couple of weeks. But I'm seeing

1091
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: a lot of thought pieces on CJ.

1092
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Stroud.

1093
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stroud struggled this year quite a bit. It's been

1094
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: tough for him, and there's you know, there's a lot

1095
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: going on there. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure,

1096
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: but Stroud has been I guess he's been hesitant. He's

1097
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: been tentative in the pocket. There's no question their on

1098
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: line hasn't been great. But I think part of growing

1099
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: up as an NFL quarterback is learning how to function

1100
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: when there's bodies around you. Boy, the rookie year that

1101
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: he had, his anticipation and timing was really high level.

1102
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: But I think everything's happening a little too fast for

1103
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 3: him right now. Now. I'm not in his head, mic

1104
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's thinking or seeing, but it

1105
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: just looks like he's maybe anticipating pressure because he's been

1106
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: getting a lot of it. And when you anticipate pressure,

1107
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 3: what happens is is you start to play fast physically

1108
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: and it slows you down mentally. It's an odd comparison there.

1109
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: But that's what happens. You start to play too fast

1110
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: physically and then mentally you just don't see it the

1111
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: way you should. So we'll see. But the Niners, I

1112
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: tell you, last week they lined up and ran the

1113
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: ball really well for the first time this year. The

1114
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: focus of their run game was inside. Now Kittle being

1115
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: back is a big deal in the run game. I

1116
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: think he was only targeted twice, wasn't a factor in

1117
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: the past game, but the fact that he can block

1118
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: defensive ends one on one and there's two really good

1119
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: ones in this game. This is a really intriguing matchup

1120
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 3: with that Texans defense, which is really really good versus

1121
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: a forty nine er offense that really wants to run

1122
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: the football.

1123
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: And that's the curiosity because this defense has done everything

1124
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: they can for him. Yeah, from the Houston side of things,

1125
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: that defensive front are really athletic and active. So it'll

1126
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: be interesting to watch because last week that game with

1127
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, you say, the run game really

1128
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: got to it. He was the Christian McCaffrey show grand forms.

1129
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: He's on his way to being only the first player

1130
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: in NFL history to have a thousand rushing in one

1131
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: thousand receiving in two seasons. That's hard to do. I

1132
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: think there's there's been three backs that have had a

1133
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: thousand yards receiving other than McCaffrey. Let's leave McCaffrey out

1134
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 3: two of them. I think people would get the third one.

1135
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: I bet no one would get. Two of them would

1136
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 3: be Marshall Fawk is one, Roger Craig is the other,

1137
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: and the third one we'll see. If you know who

1138
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: this is. It was the nineteen eighty five Chargers. I

1139
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: believe it was still Don Coriel if memory serves me correctly.

1140
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: It was a back named Lionel James who had a

1141
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 3: thousand Little Train James, Get Little Train James, nineteen eighty five.

1142
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: We can always get our nickname. Game going on to

1143
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: you here, Greg. There's so much we can do with

1144
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: all of this, but yeah, I mean some special things.

1145
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: And what's most interesting with McCaffrey is every time he's

1146
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: gotten hurt, it becomes ah, he's done, and then he

1147
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: comes back and does what he's doing. This year, you

1148
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: look at the what they've done target and reception wise,

1149
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: he's got twice as many, more than twice as many

1150
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: receptions as any another member of the team.

1151
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: He's got fifty three. Your next leading receivers Kendrick Bourne

1152
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: and Jake Tungs.

1153
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course you know receivers have been out.

1154
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: You know, Rittan Pearsall is going to be out again

1155
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: this week, and I think he's a developing second year player.

1156
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: I think Ayuk, they're talking maybe week ten that he

1157
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: might be back. So we'll see, you know, we'll see

1158
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: how it progresses. I would imagine Perdy will be back obviously,

1159
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 3: not this week, maybe next week, so you know, they'll

1160
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: get players back. But I think the key for them

1161
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: was their ability last week to line up and grind

1162
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: it and run the football. And you know, the Kiddle

1163
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: thing is is big because that allowed them to have

1164
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: double teams on the inside and they need that because

1165
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: the interior of their own line has not played great.

1166
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: As individual blockers.

1167
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked a lot about him last week in

1168
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: his return, Greg so feather in the cap, excuse me,

1169
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: frog and the old throat in the predictive nature, there

1170
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: no question about it.

1171
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: Big as we go forward.

1172
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: Not that you get any fantasy points for the blocking,

1173
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: as Kittle was quick to point out in the post game,

1174
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: as well as we continue. Still some big matchups, including

1175
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 2: a Monday night affair that I think we're all excited about,

1176
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: so we'll get to that as we continue. Here, it's

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00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Greg co Sell,

1178
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,560
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1179
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,759
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1180
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,760
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1181
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1182
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1185
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,239
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1186
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: Chiefs were dead.

1187
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: You keep trying. It's like a movie villain. You gotta

1188
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: make sure you finish the job. We'll talk about their

1189
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: rise next here on Fox.

1190
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,080
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1193
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1194
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: Welcome back in it's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday,

1195
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon alongside Greg co sal Thanks for being with us.

1196
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: Thanks to Chris and Brianna Isaac Lohencron. We'll get an

1197
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: update from him in a couple minutes. We appreciate you

1198
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: being with us as we get ready for Week eight

1199
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: in the National Football League season. We've gone through a

1200
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: number of the big matchups thus far. We'll get to

1201
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: the big Monday Night or in a second, be remiss

1202
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: fit and talk at least for a moment about where

1203
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: I am greg here in Baltimore with what the Ravens

1204
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: have been No, Lamar Jackson once again, a little bit

1205
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: of controversy over the injury report and practice statuses and stuff.

1206
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: So as we wait for the next year. There a

1207
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: lot of banged up.

1208
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears on the other side when it comes to

1209
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: the defensive side of things. But Caleb Williams and Ben

1210
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Johnson and the work in progress last week not the

1211
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: most operationally efficient. I'm liking this team to the Lovey

1212
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: Bears Super Bowl run in some respects am I expecting

1213
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: such grand heights? No, but where their defense has been

1214
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: very opportunistic. Winning the turnover battle and then getting the

1215
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: run game involved has worked wonders for Chicago.

1216
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: And that's why having a complete team is so critical,

1217
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: because your quarterback and I think that Williams has been

1218
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: a little uneven, but it's a work in progress. He's

1219
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: had some really good moments and he's had others where

1220
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: he struggled. But when you have a complete team, you

1221
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: can still win games. They won what four in a row.

1222
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: I believe their defense has been good. Although they just

1223
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: put Kyler Gordon on I are and he's a really

1224
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: good slot corner. He was out of the lineup to

1225
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 3: start the season, just played a couple of games. But

1226
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: Dennis Allen is one of the best defensive coordinators in

1227
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: the league. And you know, one of the things, as

1228
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: I've talked to coaches over the years, Mike, I would

1229
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: always ask offensive coaches who are the toughest defensive coordinators

1230
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: to play against, and Dennis Allen's name always comes up.

1231
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: He does a really, really good job. So they're able to,

1232
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, stay in games with that defense. I think

1233
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: they lead the league in turnovers on the defensive side

1234
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: of the ball, So that's always a big stat. It's

1235
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: not something you can count on every week, but it

1236
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: certainly is an important stat. And you know, I think

1237
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: because of that, they're able to to weather the work

1238
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: in progress nature of Caleb Williams.

1239
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: No, Gordon, Yeah, ah, sorry sorry about that.

1240
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: Greg, No, no, no problem. I mean Gordon's out. Is

1241
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: anybody else out on defense?

1242
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Tyreek Stevenson's going to be out with

1243
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: the show older Cole on the offensive side, Cole Kmett

1244
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: is out, Rashaan Johnson, who's been limited in terms of

1245
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: his touches anyway, Braxton Jones going to miss his as well.

1246
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of guys in that secondary banged

1247
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: up for the Bears this time out.

1248
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, like I said, their defense has

1249
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: been really good, and offensively, I think the run game,

1250
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: I guess Swift is due to play. I know he's

1251
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: been banged up, but as from what I'm seeing this morning,

1252
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: it appears as if he's going to play. You know,

1253
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: if they can run the ball with some degree of efficiency,

1254
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: they don't need to run for two hundred yards. But

1255
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: just you know, look what happened last week. I don't

1256
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: have the numbers right in front of me, but I

1257
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: don't think Williams had more than thirty throws right last week?

1258
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: Got right? Yeah, so I mean sometimes that happens. See,

1259
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: we live in a world. Well here's the way people

1260
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: think about the NFL, for the most part, they start

1261
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: with a quarterbacks the most position, most important position on

1262
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 3: the field. B. If the team wins, see that means

1263
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: the quarterback's great. And it doesn't always work like that. That's,

1264
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: you know, just like the opposite happens. Quarterbacks most important.

1265
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: B team loses see quarterbacks bad. And you know that's

1266
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: that reduces it to the most silly, simplest terms that

1267
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: you can possibly reduce it to.

1268
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: But it's most digestible. The old spool girl of Sugar

1269
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: makes go down. You want to sick a few bars. No,

1270
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but.

1271
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: I do remember the movie because I'm old enough to

1272
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: remember the movie.

1273
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: No, it's a classic that we give it a straight

1274
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: at least once a year. You got to resit those classics.

1275
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you look at Monding guy had

1276
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: fifteen touches last week. Look was it a pretty win

1277
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: against the Saints? No, but operational efficiency. Look the White

1278
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: Sox in eighty three. The banner was winning ugly.

1279
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: You know what, there's another Chicago reference there you go.

1280
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: But not every game is pretty, you know, sometimes you

1281
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: win where it's not so pretty, and you have to

1282
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: win some of those good teams wins those kinds of

1283
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: games during the season, the teams aren't good, obviously, they

1284
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: lose those kinds of games. So the Bears are certainly

1285
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: trending in the right direction. We'll have to assume Caleb's

1286
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: going to continue to progress. There'll be some ups, there'll

1287
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: be some downs. Hopefully they'll be more up going forward.

1288
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: But you want to win those kinds of games.

1289
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: Nine touchdowns against three picks, taking care of the ball

1290
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: for the most part. Their turnover differential, you know, as

1291
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: we know turnovers being and winning that margin one of

1292
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: the greater predictors for victory. But certainly, as we've watched

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Speaker 2: some of these games in the twenty twenty five season,

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Speaker 2: it is not an absolute.

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Speaker 1: No question about it.

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Speaker 2: At Greg Cosell where you find him in the Twitter verse,

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Speaker 2: check out the NFL Matchup Show, all the work that

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Speaker 2: he does breaking down film for you, of course every

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Speaker 2: week here on the Network alongside Colin Coward at one

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Speaker 2: o'clock Eastern time. Now, let's turn it over to the

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Speaker 2: news desk before we get to our Monday night affair.

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Speaker 2: Greg to our guy, a legend, the man of the legend,

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Speaker 2: the myth himself. It is Isaac Low and gron At

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Speaker 2: Isaac Low and Gron where you find him.

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Speaker 3: I Low.

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Speaker 1: Happy football day, buddy, Oh, Happy football day to you

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Speaker 1: and Greg.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Let us start north of the

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Speaker 4: border because we have the first World Old Series complete

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Speaker 4: game in a decade. Take that, Analytics nerds. In Game

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Speaker 4: two of the World Series on Saturday night, as the

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles Dodgers one A Toronto five to one to

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Speaker 4: even the series at one game apiece, Yoshinobu Yamamoto complete

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Speaker 4: game four hitter with eight strikeouts. He retired the final

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Speaker 4: twenty batters he faced for the first complete game in

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Speaker 4: a World Series in a decade. Meanwhile, offensively, Will Smith

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Speaker 4: and Max Munsey broke a one to one tie with

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Speaker 4: home runs at a three batter span in the top

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Speaker 4: half of the seventh INNY and college football on Saturday Night,

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Speaker 4: Number three Texas A and M what at Number twenty

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Speaker 4: LSU forty nine to twenty five. Texas A and M

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Speaker 4: quarterback Marcel Reed ran for one to eight with two touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: He also threw two touchdown passes. Number nineteen Louisville over

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Speaker 4: Boston College thirty eight to twenty four. Louisville running back.

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Speaker 4: Isaac Brown ran for two h five hundreds, fourteen carries,

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Speaker 4: including a sixty two yard touchdown. Number twenty five Michigan

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Speaker 4: State ran wild. Excuse me, Number twenty five Michigan ran

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Speaker 4: wild at Michigan State already one to twenty, Justice Haynes

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Speaker 4: he ran for one fifty two with two touchdowns. Jordan

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Speaker 4: Marshall ran for one hundred and ten yards, including a

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Speaker 4: fifty one yard touchdown at number twenty two Texas one

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Speaker 4: in Mississippi State in overtime forty five to thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: As Texas rallied from thirty one to fourteen down with

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Speaker 4: nine to thirty five to play in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: Arch Manning through for three hundred and forty six yards

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Speaker 4: three touchdown passes before leaving due to injury early in overtime.

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Speaker 4: ESPN reports that Manning suffered a concussion in last night's game.

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Speaker 1: Guys, all yours appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Elo At Isaac Low and Gron where you find him

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Speaker 2: and if you missed Eddy of today's show, be sure

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Speaker 2: to catch the podcast search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcast. Right after the show, Briann I'll get

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Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, you'll

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Speaker 2: find today's full show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. Mike Armin, Greg Gosel. Here it is Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio full slate of games

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Speaker 2: minus those six teams on a bye, you get a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a reprieve, which means you've got to

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Speaker 2: go fill some of the holes in your fantasy lineup.

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully you've heard a couple of the names as we've

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Speaker 2: done the deep doves on the wide receiving corps, running.

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Speaker 1: Back cores that are out there. So we'll get to

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Speaker 1: more of that. But let's get into this big Monday

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Speaker 1: night game.

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Speaker 2: Greg, as we look at the Kansas City Chiefs and

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Speaker 2: last week Patrick Mahomes said, hey, welcome back to Rashi

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Speaker 2: Rice with a pair of touchdowns in that one, as

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Speaker 2: they just absolutely thumped the Raiders, but it was balance

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Speaker 2: and getting him back in the mix right away. Seven catches,

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Speaker 2: forty two yards and two scores. The balance restored and

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Speaker 2: suddenly the Chiefs looking that much more dangerous.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think has really stood out to

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Speaker 3: me over these last number of weeks, even before they

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Speaker 3: got Rice back. Mike and I think this is something

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Speaker 3: that had sort of faded a bit from offense over

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Speaker 3: the last oh I'd say probably a year to two years.

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Speaker 3: There is now a rhythm and timing to the way

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Speaker 3: Mahomes is playing now. Mahomes is absolutely special. No quarterback

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Speaker 3: that we've probably ever seen has his sense of spatial

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Speaker 3: awareness and understanding how to move around where defenders are,

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Speaker 3: where his players are might be the best we've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: But this season what really stands out to me, and

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Speaker 3: again I watched the tape and then I look something up.

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Speaker 3: From snap to throw, he's the quickest in the league.

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Speaker 3: Think about that for a minute. That means he's playing

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Speaker 3: with really high level timing and anticipation, and that's something

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Speaker 3: we hadn't seen a lot of in recent years. So

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Speaker 3: now we're seeing, in addition to the absolutely special traits

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Speaker 3: that he has in terms of making plays outside of structure,

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Speaker 3: which will always be there, now we're seeing the timing

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Speaker 3: and anticipation at a high level. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: why they are now so so dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Currently fourth and passing yards with her, but obviously the

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Speaker 2: hang of star. He's got the game this week, but

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Speaker 2: nine different receivers last week, and the guy that we

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Speaker 2: had talked about four or five weeks ago, hopefully fantasy

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Speaker 2: owners went and picked him up. Brishard Smith had a

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Speaker 2: big game nineteen touches last week for the Chiefs in

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Speaker 2: that win.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I've talked about him with you,

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Speaker 3: I mean you maybe you know we did. No, we

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Speaker 3: did a few weeks ago. Yep, yeah, I told you then.

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Speaker 3: I told you for sure that he was going to

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Speaker 3: start to see more snaps. And I even read somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I don't tend to you know, I watched tape all

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Speaker 3: day long, so I don't listen to press conferences very often.

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Speaker 3: I don't read, you know, some nights when I go home,

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Speaker 3: I tend to read some stuff here and there, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not really up on everything being said by coaches

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Speaker 3: or And the thing is I did read somewhere that

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Speaker 3: they said they were going to get him more touches.

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Speaker 3: It made perfect sense to me because I watched him

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Speaker 3: coming out of him SMU, you know, for the draft,

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Speaker 3: and I thought that I didn't know he'd be drafted

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Speaker 3: by the Chiefs. But he's a perfect Chiefs back because

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Speaker 3: he's sort of a convert wide receiver into a running back.

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Speaker 3: He's a great receiver. They don't need him to be

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Speaker 3: their foundational runner, but he can be a big, big

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Speaker 3: factor in their past game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, curiosity certainly as we watched that offense come to

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Speaker 2: bear like last year was the all right jumbled up

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Speaker 2: and while it wasn't pretty, you know you've got to

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Speaker 2: finish them when you've got the chance in those late

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Speaker 2: game situations. Mahomes getting the ball out, finding his open

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Speaker 2: targets and rolling it up. Here we are once again,

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Speaker 2: they're four and three after they left for dead.

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Speaker 3: They're getting back to some of their key concepts. Like

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Speaker 3: you know, for years and years we used to do

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Speaker 3: pieces on my Matchup show on what we call the

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Speaker 3: flood concept. It's a three level concept to one side

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Speaker 3: of the field vertical, intermediate, short and we used to

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Speaker 3: do pieces all the time, film pieces because it was

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Speaker 3: so cleanly laid out. All of a sudden, again I'm

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Speaker 3: seeing them do that and they get to it in

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Speaker 3: so many different ways. It's such a good concept. Against

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Speaker 3: zone coverage, it's really difficult to defend. Kelsey had a

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Speaker 3: forty four yard catch and run last week against the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: right out of that concept. The way they got to it,

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Speaker 3: he came from the other side of the field. It

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Speaker 3: was beautifully designed. So you're starting to see a lot

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Speaker 3: of their key concepts work beautifully again because Mahomes is

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Speaker 3: playing with such good timing and anticipation right now.

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Speaker 2: As we continue on, we've got a few more games

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Speaker 2: that you know, we try to touch them all, but

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Speaker 2: we've spent most of our day today on a couple

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Speaker 2: of these key matchups Greg, but there's still a couple

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Speaker 2: out there that give us the storylines. Celebrating Joe Flacco

1441
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Speaker 2: as we do here while I'm in Baltimore a big

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Speaker 2: game against the Steelers. Now he's got the New York Jets,

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Speaker 2: and boy, I tell you, we can just have a

1444
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Speaker 2: full sitcom or tragedy for what we've been watching out

1445
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Speaker 2: of the New York Football Jets and their press conferences

1446
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Speaker 2: and play on the field. But for the Bengals, Am

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Speaker 2: I wrong to think that Joe Flacco, with this core

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Speaker 2: of receivers and Chase Brown, and assuming they don't trade

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson which they're saying they're not going to that,

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Speaker 2: that they can actually be contenders in that division.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would assume if they win today, and again,

1452
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: you know, you never know what's going to help.

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Speaker 1: We gotta play them.

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01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: Yet, yeah, you still got to play them. But if

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Speaker 3: they win today, they're four and four. The division has

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Speaker 3: turned out, because of Baltimore, not to be a great

1457
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Speaker 3: division as many thought it would be. I would doubt

1458
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 3: they would want to make that trade. But again, I'm

1459
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Speaker 3: certainly not there their front office. But the one thing

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Speaker 3: we know about Joe Flacco, we probably talked about this

1461
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Speaker 3: that he's going to throw the ball to Chase and Higgins,

1462
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Speaker 3: and I think we kind of saw that, didn't we.

1463
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Speaker 3: Chase has twenty three targets last week, and which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: He's got eighty two targets and fifty eight receptions in

1465
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Speaker 3: seven games. And even you know the thing about Flacco,

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Speaker 3: number one, he's going to throw it to your receivers.

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Speaker 3: But there's just a natural ease and and sense of

1468
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Speaker 3: anticipation that he plays with that is is truly beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just he's a fun guy to watch. Now,

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Speaker 3: when is he going to force some balls? Because he

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Speaker 3: throws it sure, and in any given week, Hey, look,

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Speaker 3: he could throw three picks today and they could lose.

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Speaker 3: That's just the way Joe's been throughout his career. But

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Speaker 3: he also is going to make sure that he feeds

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Speaker 3: Chase and Higgins, and then when those guys get bracketed

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Speaker 3: or doubled, he'll throw it to Yoshabas like he did

1477
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 3: on that thirty seven yard completion last week on third

1478
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Speaker 3: and four late in the third quarter when both safeties

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Speaker 3: basically dropped down to bracket Chase and Higgins. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: Flacco just sees the game so easily. You know, I

1481
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: got to know Joe a bit and I did some

1482
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: things with him over the years, and just hear him

1483
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: talk about it, it's almost like, hey, if the safety

1484
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 3: does this, you throw it here. If he does this,

1485
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: then you throw it there. He talks about it like

1486
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: anybody could go out and do this, and we know

1487
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: anybody can't go out and do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave one of the great pressers this week.

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01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: For folks that missed it, you can go in and

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01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: wind that up with some of the quotes that he

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Speaker 2: had about eating out and what he's doing with his family.

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Speaker 3: I actually did see that because I know Joe, so

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 3: I made it a point to see that, and you know,

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 3: he's just he's just a really good guy because he

1495
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: still lives here in South Jersey, so you know that's

1496
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: where his family's based. That's that's where he's from. Went

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Speaker 3: to Autuban and high school here in South Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a great clip. For those that haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: I'll make sure to retweet it back out at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: It is one of my favorites of the week in

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Speaker 2: between all of the mess because the Aaron Glenn's side

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01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: of it has been interesting. No sauce Gardener by the

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: way that Jets secondary to day out with the concussions and.

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 3: I got to tell you the guy and Justin Fields

1505
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 3: is going to start and I remember doing Justin Fields

1506
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 3: coming out of college and there were concerns. But you know,

1507
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: it's funny I talk about this with my matchup crew

1508
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: because obviously I've got guys who really know ball and

1509
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 3: we talk ball, and as you know, I know coaches

1510
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: and talk to them as well, and it's just some

1511
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 3: guys as they developed for whatever reason, Mike, and it's

1512
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: so hard to know, they just end up not being

1513
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: able to see it clearly. I mean, you know, you

1514
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: just and and Justin Fields is that guy. I mean

1515
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 3: just in terms of pure physical traits, big arm can

1516
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: throw it, you know, obviously a phenomenal runner for and

1517
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 3: he's big, he's probably six three two thirty. But he

1518
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: just doesn't see it the way you need to see it.

1519
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 3: And at this point in his career, that's not likely

1520
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 3: to happen. And it's a shame because he's so physically gifted,

1521
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: but it's it's just not likely to happen. At this point.

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: He's been given a lot of chances, and it's just

1523
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 3: it's it's not gonna work out. I don't think.

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the curiosity. How often do you get to

1525
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: bounce like We've seen a few guys with some great

1526
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: success and stop five or six. Just a question of

1527
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: when the carousel stops for him. So what we'll keep

1528
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: an eye on. That certainly guaranteed him a lot of money,

1529
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation back and forth. As soon as

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01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson starts talking. I appreciated his quote, and we'll

1531
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: take a break out of this. I'm not a good

1532
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 2: owner at least when it comes to winning.

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01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: There you go, that's a good quote. I miss that one.

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no talking about ownership, talking about that, the NFL

1535
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: and everything, and then he threw to that. I was like, wow,

1536
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of winning, no, but hey, sometimes

1537
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: the honest things come out and give us some extra fodder.

1538
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: And Greg Gozel where you find him on Twitter, find

1539
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: me at Swollen Dome. We've got two more matchups and

1540
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: some general thoughts leading into Week eight. As we continue,

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

1542
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday by

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: Carmen alongside Greg Gosell. Final a couple of minutes for

1544
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: us today. Coming up at the top of the hour,

1545
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: you got Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM, getting

1546
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: you set for the day's action.

1547
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: No doubt they'll take a.

1548
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: Little turn to the news of the week in the

1549
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: larger sporting universe with the NBA and everything flowing on there,

1550
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: all the updated injury reports with Isaac Low and gron

1551
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 2: thanks to him, thanks to Brianna and Chris making a

1552
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: sound so pretty this morning and keeping the light on

1553
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: for me here as I'm traveling here in Baltimore ready

1554
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: for in game action. The Ravens Bears a little bit

1555
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: later on today, trav Traverse to the stadium soon enough

1556
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome for my trials and tribulations and chaos

1557
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: that I find trying to keep myself out of trouble.

1558
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: I got a big mouth, if you haven't figured that

1559
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: out right, So occasionally, you know, folks don't understand my sarcasm, and.

1560
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 3: I didn't in trouble. I didn't know where you were

1561
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 3: going with that. I was just gonna let you dig

1562
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 3: deeper and deeper there.

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: No, I just call it what it is. Occasionally I'll

1564
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: find myself in a hole that I created. It's like,

1565
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: no at all.

1566
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: Now I have to explain to you I was being sarcastic. No,

1567
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: so we'll watch that one with baited breath, no question.

1568
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of big games on the slate.

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: We have two more that we haven't covered yet. One

1570
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: that I think is really interesting because of a team

1571
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: that's kind of scuffled a bit and from their passing game,

1572
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: curious what you've seen, And that's the Buffalo Carolina game.

1573
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 2: Carolina's got Andy Dalton running, but we've been running out

1574
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: there today. But we look at ric o'dowell and now

1575
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard back with the proficiency of the run game.

1576
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look at all of a sudden with Rico Dowdle,

1577
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: He's a top five in terms of rushing yards thus

1578
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 2: far as is James Cook. The balance for the play

1579
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: calling for the Bills about fifty to fifty right now.

1580
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 2: But trying to find that big goat you receiver for

1581
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: the Bills continues to be a year long project.

1582
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you probably know me well enough

1583
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: now that I'm very rarely critical of coaches because I've

1584
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 3: been fortunate in my career to be able to be

1585
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: at training camps and be in meetings and sure and

1586
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 3: know how hard these guys work. And I'm just not

1587
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: one of you know, I'm not. I don't want to

1588
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: sit here and say, well, gee, this is bad because

1589
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 3: you don't know you have to be there. But just

1590
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 3: watching the Bills pass game, and it's one thing when

1591
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 3: you talk about versus man coverage Mike, then it's again, yeah,

1592
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: do they have that one guy that can definitely just

1593
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: go out and win. Probably not, but even versus zone,

1594
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 3: I feel like there needs to be and again this

1595
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: is purely from tape study. I think there needs to

1596
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: be a more expansive element to what they do with

1597
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 3: their pass game versus zone. I think it's pretty d

1598
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't think they do enough with it given the

1599
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: fact that they have a great quarterback. So I'm curious

1600
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 3: if the bye week where teams do a lot of

1601
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: self scouting, that's one of the main things teams do

1602
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 3: during their bye week. I'm very curious to see what

1603
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: they look like today because Carolina does not have a

1604
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 3: bad defense, by the way, well.

1605
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: Because that's the thing. It's curiosity that defense is pretty solid.

1606
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 2: But they might just try to play keep away because

1607
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: the Bills defense has been a problem against the run. Yeah,

1608
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: so you might just see an awful lot of Dowbell

1609
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: and Chuba Hubbard and see if they can't keep Josh

1610
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: Allen on the sideline.

1611
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a team that you know has Josh Allen,

1612
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 3: and I know they get a lot of run after

1613
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: catch and those plays do count, and Shakira is phenomenal

1614
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 3: run after catch, but there's not a lot of explosive

1615
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 3: plays at the intermediate levels. They don't really run a

1616
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: lot of those kinds of routes. So, because the last

1617
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 3: thing you want when you feel like you're better than

1618
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: the team you're playing and there's no question Buffalo will

1619
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 3: feel that way for sure. The last thing you want

1620
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 3: is to be in tight games late third quarter, fourth quarter,

1621
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: where one play good or bad, can change the game. Now, granted,

1622
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 3: they for the most part average thirty points a game,

1623
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 3: so some people might be listening to this thinking, well,

1624
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 3: you don't know what you're talking about. I'm just going

1625
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: by what the tape shows me. They have a great

1626
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 3: quarterback who very often can get them out of trouble.

1627
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 3: No question, he can make any kind of play at

1628
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 3: any time. But it's hard to live that way every

1629
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: single week. Sometimes that doesn't happen.

1630
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's one of the big things we try to

1631
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: do here in the two hours, I think in terms

1632
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: of you know, the charter of the show and what

1633
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: we're doing is it's not just box score reading and

1634
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: right mental scores, right. I mean you can look at

1635
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: a team that's five and two or six and one

1636
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 2: and still see the warts.

1637
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: Well, coaches still blame me. Yeah, when, by the way,

1638
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 3: when a team wins, even if they win forty to ten,

1639
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: and you know this, Mike, a coach never comes in

1640
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: the next day and says, hey, guys, we were great

1641
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 3: this week. We have nothing to work on. That never happens.

1642
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not walking into film review and said, you

1643
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: know what, burn the tape, let's have ice cream instead.

1644
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: No, it's not the way it works, and it's never

1645
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 3: the way it works, believe me.

1646
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 2: Ye quick note, Drake London was added on Saturday with

1647
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: a hip injury. He's going to be a game time decision.

1648
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: So taking that up till kickoff. The guys on countdown

1649
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 2: to kickoff, we'll have that for you. Final one is

1650
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers and the Saints. Saints have been plucky.

1651
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: Rattler's been entertaining to me.

1652
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: In spots, but for the Buccaneers, it's really more just

1653
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: the way the offense has had to operate without the

1654
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: component parts. Now Evan's lost with the collarbone, Godwin and

1655
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving's still out, so still more Abukah and Rashad White.

1656
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm waiting for McMillan to come back. I really

1657
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: like that kid coming out of college, and he looked

1658
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 3: toward the end of last year it looked like he

1659
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: was really coming on. He's been out longer than I

1660
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 3: think was anticipated, so more serious. But I was not

1661
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: surprised by what happened in Detroit last week. They've been

1662
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: playing really well. They've been winning a a lot toward

1663
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: the end of games. I love Baker, I love the

1664
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 3: way he plays, I love how decisive he is. But

1665
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 3: you know, they're missing so many pieces and it's just

1666
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 3: hard to keep playing that way.

1667
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: It's tough.

1668
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: There were just a couple of throws last week. It's

1669
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: like he's got him, he's got oh, he's over overshot him.

1670
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: You know, some of those heroics. You just get used

1671
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: to him making those throws.

1672
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can't be great every week. Sometimes you just

1673
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 3: miss some throws and that's what happens.

1674
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 2: Fantastic stuff as always, Greg, I appreciate the two hours

1675
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: of conversation with that.

1676
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: A great time, Mike.

1677
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: Running through next week four teams on buy. We'll get

1678
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: back after it. Enjoy the games. We'll talk to you'

1679
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: all next week at Great Coachell at Swallowing Dome.

1680
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Speaker 1: Countdown to Kickoff is next