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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Matt Vaughan, I wanted to return to the idea of

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Speaker 2: things that are made to be as ridiculous as possible,

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Speaker 2: off the charts crazy. I'll use skin Walker again as

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Speaker 2: an example. We had written about the things that had

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Speaker 2: happened at the ranch. You know, these PhD guys go

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Speaker 2: there to look for UFOs, which is already a little

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Speaker 2: bit shady in the eyes of a lot of academics,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to be straightforward, investigate UFOs, see what's

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Speaker 2: flying around up there, and then they encourage encounter all

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Speaker 2: this other stuff. Mutilated cats and cows, dinosaurs with the

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Speaker 2: tail of a beaver, bulletproof wolf crop circles, blue warbs

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Speaker 2: the size of softballs, all this strange stuff that's just crazy.

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Speaker 2: We put all that in a book. The only thing

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Speaker 2: we debated about that was so off the charts nuts.

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Speaker 2: We debated about including it because we didn't want to

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Speaker 2: destroy the credibility of a book that was already stretched

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Speaker 2: to the breaking point as is. These two cops, a

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Speaker 2: Native American police officers, come around the edge of the

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Speaker 2: road at night by Skinwalker. They see these two guys

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Speaker 2: standing on the side of the road in trench coats

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Speaker 2: with their backs to the road. They flash their spotlight

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Speaker 2: over on them. They're smoking cigarettes. The guys turn around

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Speaker 2: and they're dogs there, dog faces. The cops look at

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Speaker 2: each other in horror, turn back around. The guys are gone.

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Speaker 2: They get out to look around. The cigarettes are still burning.

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Speaker 2: The guys in the trench coats with the dog faces

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Speaker 2: are gone. Now what the heck's going on there? It

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Speaker 2: obviously is made to be as ridiculous as possible that

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Speaker 2: no one could ever take that seriously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I really go back to the idea

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Speaker 3: that it's a pedological device, it's a learning tool, and

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Speaker 3: it's meant to it's meant to defy rational logic. That

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Speaker 3: is my theory, my idea as if to say, if

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Speaker 3: you want to believe this, you're going to have to

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Speaker 3: do some serious work, and you're going to have to

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Speaker 3: believe in dog men in trench coats smoking cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: In your book, you write about places of high strangeness,

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Speaker 2: that some places just have more of it than other places,

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Speaker 2: you know, Sedona skin Walker, Yakima, Dulce, Ashville. What are

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Speaker 2: the criteria that pop up in these places over and

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Speaker 2: over again that separate them from say, downtown Las Vegas,

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Speaker 3: Right right, Well one is so in the book I

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Speaker 3: give all the theories that are out there. So one

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Speaker 3: is intersection of lay lines is one theory. One is

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Speaker 3: large deposits of quarts. And then also the mystical toponomy,

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Speaker 3: where I put forth there's an idea that the name

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Speaker 3: itself attracts high strangeness. Seen that there is in the

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Speaker 3: high strangeness literature. There's a famous essay called the Fayette

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Speaker 3: factor that people pointed out there are high strangeness around

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Speaker 3: towns with Fayette or Lafayette, and also the high strangeness

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Speaker 3: in towns with devil names. So those are some of

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Speaker 3: the theories.

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Speaker 4: And you buy them. I mean you obviously think there's

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Speaker 4: something to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe everything, George. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You know you you researched this at a certain point

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Speaker 3: and to me, you know, that's where I talk in

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Speaker 3: the book about Okham's rabbit hole versus Ockham's razor. You

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Speaker 3: research this enough, and keep in mind, I've been researching

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Speaker 3: this since I was a small child, So it's not

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Speaker 3: that I came to this conclusion easy. But at a

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Speaker 3: certain point, if you've researched this long enough, it makes

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Speaker 3: more logical sense just to believe it. It would be

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Speaker 3: weirder if there weren't dog men and trench coats smoking

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Speaker 2: Is there in your I'll call it theology for lack

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Speaker 2: of a better word. But is there a grand plan?

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Speaker 4: Is there.

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Speaker 2: Some master plan for how this all plays out? Has

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Speaker 2: someone already written down all these synchronicities as as a

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Speaker 3: I think the grand plan, if I'm having to guess,

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Speaker 3: it's to prepare humans for first contact. That is the

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Speaker 3: grand plan. And if I have to guess, and I

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Speaker 3: talk about that in the conclusion, and that's where the

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Speaker 3: term cosmic trigger comes in. So it came from the

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Speaker 3: book by Robert Temple and The Serious Mysteries. So in

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Speaker 3: The Serious Mysteries he wrote about all of the connections

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Speaker 3: and he said it appears perhaps my book, Robert Temple's book,

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Speaker 3: The Serious is a cosmic trigger to signal to these

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Speaker 3: ultraterrestrials that we are ready for first contact. I think

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Speaker 3: it is a way to process the human consciousness so

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Speaker 2: Do you think these you think these beings live here

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Speaker 2: or basically they're everywhere, but they're they're not extraterrestrial, they're everywhere,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's I think it's a little

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Speaker 3: a little of both. You know, because you talked in

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Speaker 3: the at the intro to this segment about when you

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Speaker 3: first got into this you thought it was just little

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Speaker 3: green men and spaceships. Then sort of the ultraterrestrial theory

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Speaker 3: it's transdimensional. I think there's I would imagine there's little

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Speaker 2: Your book included a couple of things to say, George,

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Speaker 2: Your book included a couple of things that I thought

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Speaker 2: were just there just for me. One was quoting Hunter S.

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Speaker 2: Thompson when the going gets weird, the weird term pro

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Speaker 2: which quote I've used a lot. The other part was

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Speaker 2: about Pan, the god Pan, the mythological creature Pan, who's

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Speaker 2: in the I don't know if you read any Tom Robbins,

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Speaker 2: but he's my favorite living author. There's a book he

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Speaker 2: wrote called Jitterbugs Perfume, a terrific novel, flow of consciousness

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Speaker 2: kind of thing that explores a lot of ideas. But

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Speaker 2: what did you mean about Pan? How does he fit

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Speaker 2: into this panety of mysteries?

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm kind of blown away that you have that

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Speaker 3: connection to those two concepts, specifically Pan. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: to check out this Tom Robbins book. I believe I

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Speaker 3: mentioned Tom Robbins in the in the book.

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Speaker 4: Oh dude, I didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, he wrote, even Cowgirls get the.

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Speaker 4: Blues that yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So he is from Blowing Rock. If I'm not mistaken here,

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Speaker 3: Blowing the Rock is near where I'm from. So I've

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Speaker 3: always that sort of added that to the high strangeness

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Speaker 3: people start researching how strangeness, Pan pops up. So it

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Speaker 3: appears Pan is. I proposed in the book that Pan

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Speaker 3: archetype falt form, however you want to say it, that

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Speaker 3: As we're saying these places that have more high strangeness,

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Speaker 3: it appears that Pan is somehow involved, say the god

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Speaker 2: Well, you're going to want to read Jitterbug Perfume by

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Speaker 2: Tom Robbins, because if you like the Cowgirls, this one

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Speaker 2: this will be even more up your alley.

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Speaker 4: Tom Robbins was a colleague of Terence McKenna.

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Speaker 2: You right about Terrence McKenna quite a bit in this,

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Speaker 2: and I think they see the world in a lot

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Speaker 2: of similar ways. Had you ever met Terrence McKenna or

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Speaker 2: his brother Dennis McKenna, who's been a ghost guest on

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't. I exchanged emails with Dennis. He's reading

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Speaker 3: the book as we speak, God Willing, and I might

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Speaker 3: appear on his podcast, but I had not talked to

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Speaker 2: Where do you fit on the scale of ideas about

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Speaker 2: using plants and psychoactive substances to achieve connection with some

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Speaker 3: Well, tricky question, George. First of all, I don't advocate

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Speaker 3: breaking any state, federal state, or federal or local law.

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Speaker 3: You understand, however, if you are in a jurisdiction where

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Speaker 3: and I think it's one of the keys pieces of

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Speaker 3: the puzzle, so to say. And when people take these substances,

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Speaker 3: they have a lot of that's very common thing that

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Speaker 2: I guess the central question of what is real makes

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Speaker 2: this all kind of mood. But do you think that

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think so. I think some of them.

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Speaker 3: You know, no way to say all of them, but

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Speaker 3: is a tendency in this research and everything sort of

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Speaker 3: your mind and the reason that sounds a lot better

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't sounds crazy. So you know, I almost

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I think some of it is they're literal entities that

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Speaker 3: it appears that life is the norm, not the exception

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Speaker 2: And I know you can't answer this definitively, but if

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Speaker 2: something like that, conversations that are held sometimes, conversations that

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Speaker 2: pulling the strings over here, that are pulling our chains

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Speaker 4: What do you think, I would say?

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Speaker 3: So, some of them, you know, some of them, Some

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Speaker 3: of them probably are pulling the string. Some of them

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Speaker 3: are just observing. Some of them might just be say,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. We got a lot of people

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Speaker 2: I was going to wait on the bottom of this hour,

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Speaker 2: but I'm going to take a couple of calls. We

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Speaker 2: got Brendan in Austin, Texas, a guy I talked to

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Speaker 2: a lot here on the Wildcard line. Hey Brendan, what's

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much George and Matt. It's a great discussion.

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Speaker 5: I've been extremely busy with work, so I'm super happy

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Speaker 5: to talk tonight. The English high strangeness. It seems like

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Speaker 5: it becomes an endurance test, when will you tap out?

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Speaker 5: How weird? Can you go and still come back? Like

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Speaker 5: you were saying? But George Knapp has some new videos

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Speaker 5: and episodes out on Weaponize, so everybody needs to check

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Speaker 5: it out on YouTube, Spotify, any podcasts, and Georgia Matt.

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Speaker 5: I've been spelling out my own unified theory of weird

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Speaker 5: on my podcast Inspired Earth. Episode nine, Part two is

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Speaker 5: a good start on consciousness, magnetism, Nazis, and the CIA.

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Speaker 5: I've tied together Kenneth Arnold missing People Magnetism with Nazis

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Speaker 5: in episode sixteen. But anyways, I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 5: some recent Mantis experiences you had asked about for a

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Speaker 5: few weeks back when I called in and mentioned it.

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Speaker 5: I've been developing a relationship with the insects for many years.

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Speaker 5: Spiders would come to me during severe hauntings or events,

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Speaker 5: making art and collecting art, and it would give me

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Speaker 5: I really appreciated them, They appreciated me. They enjoyed music

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Speaker 5: that's really physical and monotonous, and while my body is

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Speaker 5: by that. And the words that they sent me was illusion, strategy,

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Speaker 5: really I was not prepared to make contact with them

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Speaker 5: I'd ping them five times. I was embarrassed for them

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Speaker 5: and so I asked them what is time? And that

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Speaker 3: Matt. Sure, I do have some literature about mantids, And

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Speaker 3: one of the things people that know me they joke

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Speaker 3: about anytime somebody has a paranormal experience, I have like

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Speaker 3: literature I can point you to, so I know about

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Speaker 3: the mantids. There was a book from the early days

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Speaker 3: of your apology, how to contact extraterrestrials or how to

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Speaker 3: contact alien beans. It's a long title like that. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to pull it up on Google just now,

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Speaker 3: but Brendan, you can look for that. And this guy

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Speaker 3: talks about how to contact extraterrestrials. They're manted type beans

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Speaker 3: that interesting. And also if you Riley Martin, are you

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Speaker 3: familiar with Riley Martin? Yeah, right, right, So he talks

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Speaker 3: about insect type entities as well. So those are two

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Speaker 3: good places to start. Now I will say this this.

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Speaker 3: I was moved to say this. This is a great

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Speaker 3: call talk about wildcard line. Now I want to say this.

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Speaker 3: With interacting with beans, I would not that you asked

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Speaker 3: for the advice, Brendan, but I'm going to give it people.

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Speaker 3: I would encourage people not to be overly astonished. It

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Speaker 3: appears that there's entities out there varying types, dog men

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Speaker 3: on a pedestal. It's like, Hey, they're just mantid beings

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Speaker 3: that have a little knowledge that we don't. It's not

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Speaker 3: that big of a deal. I think that approach helps

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Speaker 3: because it sounds like you were in the deep end.

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Speaker 2: Brendan, Brendan, that was a pretty amazing exchange you had

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Speaker 2: with these mantises while you're at work. You ask about

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Speaker 2: time and they said something like illusion, strategy, paradox, a

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Speaker 2: couple of other terms. That was That was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for that call. Mantis is have you, Matt have

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Speaker 2: you had other contacts and questions about mantis type beings?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mantis, I think I said, mantid. Yeah, mantis. That's

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Speaker 3: just all I know about my That's the extent of

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Speaker 3: the knowledge I have on mantis type beings.

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Speaker 4: That's like manton is sort of the plural of it.

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Speaker 4: So you were right, You're right.

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Speaker 3: Now, So I don't don't want to offend them.

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Speaker 2: George, Well, we'll have to have a conversation off the

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Speaker 2: air about mantis's. I have a long standing relationship and

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Speaker 2: talk way too much about the little ones, not the

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Speaker 4: I've had them there for nine years.

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Speaker 2: I we go back and forth on it anyway, So

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Speaker 2: thanks for that call, bro whow.

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