1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Wow, Brandon Nimo moving over to the Texas Rangers and 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon moves his way over to the New York Mets. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. It's a one for one deal. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: There is money that moves. The Mets send five million 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: bucks over to Texas. That doesn't offset the total the 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Rangers are taking on an extra twenty five million dollars 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: over the course of all of this. Right, that's important 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: to keep in mind here is Brandon Neimo has five years, 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and two and a half million bucks left 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: on his deal. Marcus Simeon has three years seventy two 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: million dollars. So as far as money, the Rangers do 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: save money on the short term since they'll be paying 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Nimo a little over twenty a year. The Rangers send 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: over Semion's twenty six a year to the Mets, so 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: they'll spend a little bit more short term, they'll save 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: a little bit more long term. And then I want 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: to get to what happens here on the field. Also, 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: wait quick, Nemo, no trade clause, says now, I'm good, 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: I'll go. I know the Mets want to move me, 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: and he gets way. Richard too, By the way, it's true, 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: probably makes himself. What do you think krets I mean 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: for him? 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: I think it's probably close to three plus million a 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: year a year. Obviously, it's tough because there's New York 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: City tax, there's New York tax. There's none of that 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: in Texas. 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: Yep. 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: Now whereas home is I guess in the off season 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: depends a little bit too. Anyway, it's about three million 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: a year. 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and an assimon pocket he gets another million bucks, 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: so he got a lot richer in this deal. Simeon 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: had a limited no trade clause and he didn't have 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: the New York teams on there. And he's cool going 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: to a competitor for the stretch run here. He won 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a World Series with Texas. We'll see what he can 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: bring to the Mets. Baseball field wise, Rangers need offense. 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: They did some other moves too over the last few days, 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: like getting rid of Adulis Garciage on him, et cetera. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Do you like this for Texas with an offensive boost? 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: And what about the Mets side where they're really pre 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: that their run prevention was not good enough and they 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: want to be this pristine defensive team starting next year? 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Do they want a pristine defensive team because they're not 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: going to go out and spend money on starting pitchers 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: because part of it is like, if your dudes are 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: out there and they're just gassed, and they're not like 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: your bullpen's gassed, you're starting pitching was just subpar. O'kare 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: what it's like playing defense in Colorado. You sit there, 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: you play defense in Colorado, and you go it's a 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: track meet, So your your outfielders. 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 4: Are going to be exhausted. 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: But so back with the Mets wanting to create better defense, 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: big huge upgrade defensively, I just hope it doesn't mean 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: that they're going to say, Okay, we're not going to 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: go get pitching because we upgraded on our defense. Both 57 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: these dudes are great guys. Both of these dudes are 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: hard workers. Both of these dudes are on the field 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: like they both want to be guys who are out 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: there all the time and great teammates, clubhouse. All that 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: stuff is great. I just have a hard time finding 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: the ability for the Mets to get more value than 63 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: what the Rangers are gonna get out of this steal. 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: I know the Rangers need some thump. Is the Ranger 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: is this gonna is this gonna squash Nemo's thump. Is 66 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: is going to Globe Life Park going to really suppress 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: his numbers, like it's suppressed a lot of guys numbers recently, 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: including somebody they just non tendered in a Dolice Garcia 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: like a Doleys. The first few years when Globe Life 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: was like kind of a neutral park, he was, he 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: was El Bomba. And the last few years, when it's 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: become more of a pitcher's park, he's become just l 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: not even no Bomba nothing. I saw Bombie Bomby Bomby. 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: I thought it was El Bomba anyway, but l Bombie. 75 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: Either way it is. 76 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: It's it's tough for me to see the Mets. The 77 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: Mets did get better defensively, so if that's their goal, 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: one hundred percent goal, I love it. I don't think 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: they got the most out of this steal from the 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: fact that the Rangers really really needed some offense, and 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: I think they got it in Nemo. And I have 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: a hard time believing that the Mets are just gonna 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: be like, you know what, we had plenty of offense. 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: We can get rid of Nemo. They got to add 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: a piece back they got to add a big piece back. 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're clearly valuing someone who's going to 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: play strong defense at second base for the next few years. 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that's disputed. 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: Right, undisputed? Yeah, I mean, look a look at what 90 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays did. They added a platinum glove defender 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: in Andre Semenez in a position that, ay. 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: Do you need a platinum glove defender? 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: Look what it did. It added to their defense. It 94 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: added to and they were they're paying Andre Semenez twenty 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: million a year year in a few years part of 96 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: that contract. So clearly there's a value there. But is 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: Marcus Simon gonna play elite level? I forget what his defense? 98 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: I mean, his defense was almost a two war defense 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: at second base. 100 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: It's up there, it's among the best in baseball. 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: Is that gonna last? Is that gonna last? For his 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: age thirty eight season? I should have all the numbers 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: are all the numbers are flowing through my brain right now. 104 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, he's. 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: Thirty five right now, a pretty fresh thirty five. He 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: turned thirty five in September, So you're gonna get his 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: thirty six, seven and eight seasons. I mean, he's great shape, 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: He's always been super durable he plays. I'm not as 109 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: concerned about the defense. I'm just like, is this the 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: beginning of a big decline on offense? And what's your threshold? Right? 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: If he's below league average now and you're going off 112 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite age curve in Major League baseball, what's your 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: threshold for having a second basement that plays really good defense? 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Can he be a seventy ops plus guy seventy five? 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: Like, I don't think it'll get I don't think it'll 116 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: get that low. Maybe maybe I'm being but I mean 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: his defense. His offense needs to stay right at a 118 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: rate at a hundred one hundred ops plus. He needs 119 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: to be average, just an average big league hitter because 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: at second base there is a ton of value there. 121 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm afraid of his defense getting everybody's defense 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: gets worse. Some guys hitting gets a little bit like 123 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: they become they change from like that guy who's gonna 124 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: always be able to hit the ball the ballpark in 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: a certain situation to. 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: Stay's contact oriented state. 127 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: And I think some of his offensive numbers because he's 128 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: out there, because he's playing one sixty two one sixty 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: two one sixty one, one fifty nine, one sixty two. 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're playing through stuff and your offense takes a decline. 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: He's going to be a positive player. I just have 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: a hard time believing that you can take Nimo out 133 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: of that lineup when today Pete Alonso is not in 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: lineup and there's a chance he doesn't go back into 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: that lineup. So now if you would lose both those guys, 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: where are you going to find that extra? Where are 137 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: you going to find those let's see Nimmos Homer seventy 138 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: home No. Sixty five home runs? 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I don't know, 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: just throwing it out there too. 165 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 4: Much, too much dice rolling to roll of the dice like. 166 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: But what they had didn't work. 167 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: So they're because of their offense, because of Nimo, because 168 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: of Peter Alonzo. 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: No I like Nimo. I'm I'm agreeing with you. I'm 170 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: just saying the direction is in the post season press conference, 171 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: like after the season ends, the press conference is David 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: Stern saying run prevention over and over again, and he's 173 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: referring to them being kind of a bottom third rinked 174 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: defensive team. Eighth highest batting average on balls and play 175 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: last season, which isn't perfect, but it's there. The stat 176 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: it's a tool to help you nineteenth in stat cast 177 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: fielding runs value metric, right, certain defensive metrics had them 178 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: in the bottom third of the league, and they want 179 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: to improve that. I'm with you here. I think you 180 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: need both. So you got worse offensively and you got 181 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit better defensively. Neimo was declining on defense 182 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: in the outfield too, that's fair. 183 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: He is, okay, but they also Taka, they took him 184 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: out of center, and so I think, yeah, I defensive 185 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: outfielders metrics for the what I would consider the middle 186 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: of the road guys. Yeah, positioning plays a huge role 187 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: in that. But let's let's just be honest with the Mets. 188 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, and I think Mets fans would agree 189 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: with me. 190 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 4: Was it their defense? No? 191 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: No, like just because just because somebody comes out the 192 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: end the year. It's like the Phillies last year, not 193 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: this past season. Last year and they were like, gotta 194 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: change something. They can't. They can't run it back. They 195 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: ran it back and they had a great year. They 196 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: didn't win in the playoffs, they lost the eventual World 197 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: Series champions. What are you gonna change? So without an 198 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: absolute overhaul, which hey, you know what this might signify, 199 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: it's gonna be an overhaul, No, Pete, No, you know 200 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: we're changing our entire mo. You're not changing a ton 201 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: other than you gotta get starting pitching. They're they're they're 202 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: nine starting pitchers behind the Dodgers, And if you want 203 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: to win the National League, you have to beat the Dodgers. 204 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: They're nine starting pitchers. You gotta get four. You got 205 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: you have to do things that make your team better. 206 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: And just because you missed the playoffs because the Reds 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: caught you, you can't just be like, well, if we 208 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: would have had just a game shift here or there, 209 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: we could have been in the playoffs. And who would 210 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: have started any of the games. 211 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: Who who would have. 212 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: Come out of the bullpen and been like, yeah, we 213 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: got this like they were. They're more than one game 214 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: out of the playoffs type of team with their starting pitching. 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: I loved this lineup. I loved it with Pete. I 216 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: loved it with Nemo, and I think those guys, I 217 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: think those guys would age well. I think they did 218 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: really well in the New York market. I think it's 219 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: something that is I just think everybody thinks can't happen again. 220 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: You're right, it can't happen again. But I think there's 221 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: a glaring, low hanging fruit that they can just be 222 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: like starting pitcher, starting pitcher, starting pitcher. Now, let's see, 223 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: maybe our bullpen wasn't that bad. Maybe re Garrett doesn't 224 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: blow out because he's not throwing you know, he's not 225 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: throwing in situations where he's probably exhausted while he wasn't 226 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: throwing it too much, like we discussed the other day. 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: I just think I don't think the Mets are that 228 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: far and to just totally revamp and rehaul everything, I 229 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: will see. 230 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: I think you have frustrated ownership that wants to blow 231 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: it up a little bit, not blow it up like rebuild, 232 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: blow it up like switch it up, because they're like, 233 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: what happened this past season was unacceptable. Things are about 234 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: to change. Nimo's gone. I think there's a chance to 235 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: me there's a message send here that Pete doesn't come back. 236 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hold their line. I just don't 237 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: think David Stearns loves that profile of player and doesn't 238 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: care as much about the emotions of this guy works here. 239 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: This is a franchise guy should retire with them. I 240 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think he cares as much about that. Tatuya Amai 241 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: is going to get paid a lot of money to 242 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: pitch in Major League Baseball next year. He has posted 243 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: he is going to sign with a team, and I 244 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be really good. Anyway. He was on 245 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: a Japanese interview show and one of the quotes that 246 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: stood out to people is reasons for wanting a team 247 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: without Japanese members. He said, if there were Japanese people, 248 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: they just tell you anything if you asked, right. I 249 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: don't really want that in a way. I want to 250 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: experience that survival vibe, you know, and when facing cultural differences, 251 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: making how I overcome them on my own. One of 252 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: the fun parts keeping in mind this is translated. You know, 253 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: sometimes things can get lost in translation during that time period. 254 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: But do you think this gives us any inkling that 255 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: he is going to try and be his own man 256 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: on a team that doesn't have Roki Sasaki, Shoeo Tani 257 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: and Yamamoto. 258 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: I think money talks, and I think that will be 259 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: the ultimate decision. But I think there's gonna be more. 260 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean the amount of strikeouts one hundred and four innings, 261 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two strikeouts. Now the one hundred 262 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: four innings always, I'm fearful of it. And he's gonna 263 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: have to go to a team that has the six 264 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: is willing to do a six man rotation. That's just 265 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: like a given for Japanese players and Japanese starting pitchers. 266 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, I think you can easily do that, 267 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: So listen, he's not going to He's not going to 268 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: a team that's not contending. I have a hard time 269 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: believing a guy leaves his hometown is willing to do 270 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: what he says, like, hey, you know what, I'm going 271 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: to be me. I want to learn it on my 272 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: own kind of thing and lose. So I think he 273 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: wants to. I think it's gonna be a contention, but 274 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: maybe not the Dodgers. 275 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Money, money and money. 276 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: We'll see seven manor coaches. 277 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Bet MGM futures. These are the ones they get a 278 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: little Cray World Series winning state you want to try 279 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: and bunch some teams together. California, of course, is going 280 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: to get significant love here. I don't know, do you 281 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: remember what the current number is for the Dodgers. It's 282 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: in that range. Most of this is going to Dodgers. 283 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: It's plus three hundred, Okay, So if you want to 284 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: include four more teams, you go down to plus two 285 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: to fifty for California, plus four seventy five to get 286 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: New York teams, Texas teams at plus ten fifty and 287 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: eleven to one odds for Philadelphia or Pittsburgh, which we're 288 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: about to talk about in a different realm. 289 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: But if I'm taking if I'm taking Pennsylvania, yeah, I'm 290 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: taking the twelve hundred of the Phillies are currently at. 291 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: So I'm not getting I'm not taking less, or maybe 292 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: they're at nine hundred. 293 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: Anyway, you would take them more. 294 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: That wouldn't make sense. If the Phillies are at nine 295 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: to one odds and then this one's eleven to one. 296 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying I'd rather take. 297 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: The Phillies by themselves. 298 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: Phillies by themselves as all. 299 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: I was trying to spit out the one on here 300 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: that I'm taking Texas because I'm getting I'm getting better 301 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: numbers with the Rangers and the Astros, and we can't 302 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: just stop picking against the Astro Like the Astros will retool. 303 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: They are going to there's no like, Oh, we're gonna 304 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: cut payroll. You know you're gonna have your Don Alvarez. 305 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna have top five hitter in the game. 306 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Are you buying it? 307 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I would do California. I would do the same 308 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: price on both on California and oh my god. 309 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: You would take California plus two fifty or any other state, 310 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: any other state? 311 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: Would I think the Dodgers probably gonna win it again. 312 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Okay, you could take the rest of the field to anything. 313 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: With Toronto and those teams, yeah. 314 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: Every everyone else besides these four states for plus one seven. 315 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: I always think Philly has a chance. And that's that's 316 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: if that's the problem. Maybe give them too much credit. 317 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 318 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna give you. They're going to give 319 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: you a run this offseason. 320 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: For sure. Where's four We're going see how he doesn't 321 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: go back? 322 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: That changes if he's not on the team. No, no chance. 323 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, hey, quick shout out tis this season one of 324 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: the bigger sports weeks of the year. On the football side, 325 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Pro Football Same Game Parlay boost token already in your 326 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: account if you're signed up and funded with bet MGM, 327 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: no opten is needed. 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It's kind of a state 338 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: of the franchises from a construction standpoint. The other side 339 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: of it that they start with is the fact that 340 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: there are rumblings that these two teams are actually going 341 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: to spend a little bit more than they usually do 342 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: their bottom five in payroll. They clearly need to do 343 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: that to be able to compete. They cry dirt, dirt, 344 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: poor we're the only two owners on the planet that 345 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: would even own these teams. Feel bad for us, blah 346 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: blah blah. I don't want to turn it all into that, 347 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: but the question really here is why is there a 348 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: sudden willingness from these teams to spend and what could 349 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: be behind it. You have many in the industry, including 350 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: agents and some on the record, like I see here. 351 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: Seth Levinson was in the story talking about how there's 352 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: a possibility of a fight among clubs over revenue sharing. 353 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: We never hear too much about this, but this is 354 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: the real battle that occurs when collective bargaining happens. You 355 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: have the big market teams, the small market teams, the 356 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: cheap owners, the owners that like to spend, and sometimes 357 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: the cheap owners are the big market like it. It 358 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: gets really ugly in there. And then they come out 359 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: of the twenty hour meeting and go so, thirty oh, 360 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: we agreed on everything. So this is what they're talking 361 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: about here, And part of the reasoning could be the 362 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: fact that there's always grievances and now with the CBA 363 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: coming up and these teams like the Pirates and Marlin's 364 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: asking most likely for more revenue sharing, money. The big 365 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: market teams are going to be like, wait, you want 366 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: more revenue sharing money. I mean, when you look at 367 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: the Marlin Side Codfather, their final luxury tax payroll was 368 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: in the eighty five million dollar range, well below the 369 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: number which is one hundred and fifty percent of revenue 370 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: share take that they are like essentially required to spend. 371 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: It's just that grievances are filed, nothing ever really happens. 372 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: So what's the motivation for them? A CBA is the 373 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: motivation because that's when suddenly you're dating someone they say 374 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna change, they don't. They do that one thing 375 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: for you real quick, and they look you back in. 376 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: That's what this is, right, babe, I've changed. 377 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 3: I've changed. 378 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna spend a little bit more. Oh one 379 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: one off season you're gonna do that when the CBA 380 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: is coming up and you're asking the big market teams 381 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: to spend. This is the whole problem with the game, man, 382 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: Isn't this the problem? This is the nightmare in the game, 383 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: which is crats for nightmare. The real problem here is 384 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: the fact that you have a team like this that's 385 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: getting a lot of money like the I mean the 386 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: Pirates are in the same realm here, but the Marlins 387 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: looks like they got maybe seventy ish million dollars in 388 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: revenue sharing, if not more. According to this story highest 389 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: revenue sharing recipients and their final luxury tax peril, which 390 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: adds all kinds of stuff up, only gets to eighty 391 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: five and they still get money for other things like 392 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: TV revenue, national and local. I know they don't do 393 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: well in attendance, but it's not like they don't make 394 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: any money. There. You do the math, You're like. 395 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: Huh confused, Yeah, yeah, no, it's very confusing. They they wouldn't. 396 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: I tell people, these guys wouldn't be in these positions 397 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: if they weren't making money all of this. I don't 398 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: understand why you would do it if you're not making 399 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: any money and they're not spending. So where's the math 400 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: in all that? I don't know. I don't know. That 401 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: drives me crazy. How these guys don't go out and 402 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: at least try to get some of the big names 403 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: to come to their cities and make the fans all 404 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're excited. Now people are gonna more, 405 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: people are gonna come to the games. And watch these 406 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: teams play, but it's like crying wolf here, a little 407 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: bit cratzy. It's it's tough to hear because they both 408 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: have the potential being very good teams if they just 409 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: put their best foot forward and find ways to give 410 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: other guys. 411 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: Krats. 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You can't 429 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: beat that. 430 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: I think it's awesome that we're talking about both these teams, 431 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: because what do the Pirates and Marlins have that every 432 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: single team wants starting pitching? They have created it, drafted it, whatever. 433 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 2: You know, nobody created Paul Skins, Like, yeah, you know, 434 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: he's he's a he's a gift, Like, but you have him, like, 435 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: he's that gift right now. And if they don't strike 436 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: while the iron's hot, I can see other owners because 437 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: I know for a fact he said it. Hal Steinbrenner 438 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: does not want to go over the luxury tax for 439 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: one reason. He doesn't want to keep paying these teams 440 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: more money. He's like why he wants to win and 441 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: everyone and everyone's gonna get on him because oh, they 442 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: could spend, they could spend a ton, but at all 443 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: percentages over the threshold that they're at, the salary cap 444 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: that they're at, continues to go into this revenue sharing. Yes, 445 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: percentage of it goes into the players Vanguard four oh 446 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: one K whatever it is, but it goes to these 447 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: teams that are not spending it. So now like the 448 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: Athletics of Sacramento last year went there and they all 449 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: of a sudden they had don't remember the number, I 450 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: think it was eighty million that they had to spend, 451 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: and they went out and got several reno They made 452 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: some moves that it was like, Okay, they start spending 453 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: some of this money or else, teams, we're going to 454 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: come after them. Yeah, we're They're all coming into rooms 455 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: every year, having owners meetings all that stuff. Maybe this 456 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: is the way the Marlins and pirates are going to 457 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: get in line to make it look like, hey, we 458 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: can all spend. You know, we all need to be 459 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: together in this. But I truly believe there's teams that 460 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: really want everyone else to spend because they know, yes, 461 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: that you are going. The way I equate it to 462 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: people who don't know anything about baseball is I say 463 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: you go to a golf outing. If it's a nice, 464 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: spend money on the golf outing. You're going to come back. 465 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: So it's the same thing, you spend money on your team. 466 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: Fans are going to come back, You're going to make more. 467 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they want it to be a competitive league. Hey, 468 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: a couple little signings from the weekend. Cubs added film 469 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: Aton to your contract and a third year club option. 470 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: The Cubs have to build back some of their bullpen. 471 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: They're going to lose some big boys, so this is 472 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: a good start. 473 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: Build back, build them back, all right, listen. 474 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Solid reliever. 475 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: We talked about how many relievers there are. This is 476 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: a solid, solid pickup. Looking for big things from the 477 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: Cubs this offseason. This is a great start. 478 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: And Phil Aton signed on March thirteenth, last year, one year, 479 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: two million bucks major league deal with Saint Louis. Yea, 480 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: he was really good. I got to go look at 481 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: the numbers from what I remembered, but really good and 482 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier this. 483 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: Time, quite a bit earlier. 484 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: But he still had a two eight ERA coming off 485 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: of the year when he broke his hand. I think, 486 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: didn't he break his hand? 487 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that was that was early? Like that was ago. 488 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: No, that was a few years ago. I don't should 489 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: have said it. 490 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: But either way, either way, he's always been a guy 491 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: that's like, eh, you know what, what are we getting? 492 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: He doesn't strike out a ton of guys, so what 493 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: did he do this this past year? Boom Skyrocket has strikeout? 494 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 2: He didn't Skyrocket is he's not throwing a hundred. He's 495 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: a guy that doesn't throw it. But he's like, oh, okay, well, 496 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to strike guys out, bang a ring, especially 497 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: when you don't get it. When you don't get that 498 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: you know, multi year deal like other guys are getting 499 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: just because your velocity's low. He was more like a 500 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: strike just a little over a strikeout parading guy. Last year, 501 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: I think he went a I'll just read it, eighty 502 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: one punches in sixty one innings. 503 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: Nice. I mean, it's you. 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: You had to go all the way back to twenty 505 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: one for the last time he had eighty one punch. 506 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: He's in one season, so good for him. Good pickup, Yeah, 507 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: good pickup. 508 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: And then also real quick, James McCann agreed on a 509 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: one year contract with the Diamondbacks. Ken reported it a 510 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. We were already done with our 511 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: show by the time that happened. So nice, catch your depth. 512 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: I mean he watched down the stretch run for the Diamondbacks. 513 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: They were in it. James McCann was playing yeah all 514 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: the time. And moreno who had injuries throughout the year, 515 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: and then the dreaded game calling was questionable from after 516 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays make the World Series, the Dalton var 517 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: show for Gabrielle moreno trade, maybe the Blue Jays. Now 518 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: it's swinging a little bit at the first it was 519 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: Gabrielle moreno possible. You know NLCS MVP takes the Diamondbacks 520 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: and like, why did we get vol Varshow? Now it's 521 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: kind of swaying back. 522 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 5: We'll see, all right, baby, let's slap cratsats. 523 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: What do you have for us? 524 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I knew Garrett Whitlock was going to play 525 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 2: for TVs. We're announcing stuff here, But anytime I come 526 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: to Todds, I mean it's like, this is like coming 527 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: to America. 528 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: You come to Tom's Road, New Jersey, USA Baseball. There's 529 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: the Neon over there. 530 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is right beautiful, it's got the al it's 531 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: got the w b C logo on the back. 532 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: It's a good one. 533 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Fresh. 534 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt you are the ogs. 535 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: We're going to actually get into this topic a little 536 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: bit more, but I wanted to finish our conversation from 537 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: earlier about the pirates in the Marlins. There's a lot 538 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: to unpack with that article, right, but let's skip ahead 539 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: now to what they actually might do best part by far. 540 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: You want to make aircraft smile ready. This was written 541 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: in the story from Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drel. The 542 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Pirates never actually made an offer to Josh Naylor. According 543 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: to people brief on the discussions, he signed with the 544 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: Mariners two weeks after the World Series on that five 545 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: year contract. The deal happened so quickly, the Pirates did 546 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: not seriously get involved, So everything that you saw publicly 547 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: about them involved and having a quote lower offer actually 548 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: meant that they were just thinking about that offer and 549 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't actually officially make it. There's your news. That's one 550 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: of the big pieces from that article. So they will play, 551 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: they will sign some guys, but the article kind of 552 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: says how they're going to play more in the kiddie pool. 553 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: They're not suddenly signing one hundred million dollar player from 554 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: free agency when they've never touched that one. More to 555 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: make you excited, It sounds like in the article they 556 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: are getting close to requesting Paul Skeens to make phone 557 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: calls for recruiting pitches to free agents, which is cool, 558 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: but okay, let's do the phone call on Paul Skeins. 559 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: I'm on the line with Josh Naylor right now. Hey, 560 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you, like I want to win 561 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Naylor's gonna be like, Okay, what up, Yo, 562 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: It's Paul Skins. I'm one of the best pitchers in baseball. 563 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: I'm a g everyone loves me. I'm a number one. 564 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: I want to pitch in the playoffs. We want you, Josh. 565 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: Thanks man, It's great to hear your voice. Dude. I mean, 566 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to face you ever again. How much 567 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: are you gonna give me? 568 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: Ken? 569 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: So here's here's the deal. Here's the deal time. I mean, Josh, 570 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: mister Naylor, I know you just got offered. What was 571 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: the final number for uh Snattle ninety two million dollars? 572 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: We've got like probably eighty ish. It's not official. I 573 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: have to make sure that you'd actually be interested in that. 574 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna kind of float that, but like eighty ish 575 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: for us instead of Seattle. Seattle only made it to 576 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: ALCS Game seven? Like, do you really want that? 577 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: I have a good Thanksgiving. We'll talk So. 578 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 5: Todd, Hello, Todd, did your internet go out? 579 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: That's a tough ask for ball Wall. 580 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: I've had to do some stuff for records. You know, yeah, 581 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: everyone calling around, But. 582 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: It's a little different game, a little different game when 583 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: you're falling fifteen plus mill short on a deal that 584 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: never even was really offered you. 585 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: So at the end of the show I wanted to 586 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: I'm it. 587 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: We can bring some of it up tomorrow. We can 588 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: spend more time at it tomorrow. Kevin Flarer will be 589 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: on with us tomorrow. A Happy Turkey Day to Todd father. 590 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: We apparently already had one us you're gonna. 591 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: Have and Thanksgiving. We don't mess around here. 592 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: I expect nothing less from you. I'll see you guys 593 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: on Hot Sheet in about thirty minutes. Dodgers Territory Live 594 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: right now. 595 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: I can't believe Todd likes stuffing more than anything else. 596 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: I'm just you're right back to the cast.