1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug gottli. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app Welcome in. I was watching Dodgers Red Sox 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: over the weekend and the Red Sox were wearing yellow uniforms. 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a good, good reason, Like jac 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: you can hop on and tell me their throwbacks to 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: some foregone era or whatever. But like your Major League Baseball, 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: you have the Boston Red Sox and the LA Dodgers, Like, 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: why is this so hard? And if the argument is, hey, hey, bucco, 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: our marketing guys are smarter than you, they've calculated that 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: that is a series everybody pays attention to, and so 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: people will pay attention attention to it. So if you 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: want to sell more jerseys, that's the time to do it. 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: It sounds great, but there is a moment which one 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: you say to yourself, you know, I still think you'd 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: sell a lot of Red Sox traditional Red Sox jerseys 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: if you wore them and everybody's paying attention to the series. 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: And secondly, who fucking cares? Sometimes about making money? Sometimes 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: you gotta go. It's the Red Sox and the Dodgers. 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: I mean, the uniforms are as iconic as the franchises 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: and the stadiums in which they play. Why stop letting 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: the marketing guys decide shit which affects kind of the 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: the the pristine visual. Am'm making sense, Yeah, of course 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm making sense. It's like the Boston Celtics in the 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. They should never wear the black jerseys. Why 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: because of the fucking Boston Celtics. Where the Greens sells 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: cuts across the front where the whites says, you know 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: where the Greens they say Boston right where the whites 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: they say Celtics. 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: It. 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: That's it. 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: Don't wear alternative uniforms because you're trying to sell uniforms. 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: There is a moment in which the visual well the 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: visual nostalgia is more important than the bottom dollar. Not always, 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: not most of the time, but sometimes, and that is 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: one of those times. 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: I honestly, you know, they wore the Greens on Friday 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: night too, So two out of the three games this 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: weekend were all way alternative jerseys. You're right, you have 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: two historic franchises playing each other, and you choose then 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: to switch it up because gen Z has ADHD and 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: you can't do a uniform more than one time in 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: a row. And then there's like this thing like I 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: reject the premise that they wear all these these jerseys 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: so that they could sell more jerseys. I just the 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: other day I went to the Dodger game. There was 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: a maroon, a maroon Dodger cap maroon. Now I know 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: for a fact that Dodgers have never worn that on 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: the field, yet somebody found it on wherever they get 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: their fanatics or wherever they get their hats. Like you 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: can get just about any color or any style on fanatics, 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: Like you don't need to watch it and then go 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: and buy it. So it's like, I just have no 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: idea why they did this. It was infuriating the entire 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: time for two straight games. 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: Yep, two straight games in which I felt like, it 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: is two straight swings, missus. It's the Red Sox and 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. It's not that hard. The Red Sox where 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: their whites, the Dodgers wear their grays, and we move on. 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: If you want to do alternative, maybe they could do 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: their blues on a Sunday. But I still think you 63 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: just do the whites and the grays like you've always 64 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: done for one hundred and fifty fucking years. 65 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart. 69 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug. 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: We are in the post truth world. I think that's 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: what it's been called ever since Trump one point zero 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: post truth? Does the truth matter anymore? Do you know 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: if you're getting the truth from the most authoritative sources? 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: Post truth world. I say this because doctor Willard Maxwell 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: Junior is a pastor. I know you don't know who 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: he is, but he's one of the most unique and 77 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: innovative personalities in today's leadership landscape. He has a podcast. 78 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: It's called Bring the Smoke. Do Not Confuse it with 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: All the Smoke with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Bring 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: the Smoke with Doctor Willard Maxwell. He's got an interesting 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: theory on what happened with Doug Williams at the end 82 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 3: of his career. 83 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: Well Black quarterback Doug Williams beats to breaks off always. 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 5: You don't never see no thirty but thirty right, And 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 5: so Doug Williams every time he throws the ball, great kids. 86 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: Every time Alway throws the ball, great throat. He saw 87 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 5: seeing it, nuances in the different stuff. So then he 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: wins by land slide. His family celebrates him for two weeks. 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: Then his family comes and have a intervention with him, 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: although nothing's wrong with him, And they said, we're just 91 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: gonna be here for you whenever you want us to 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: be here, when we're gonna be a beat this he said. 93 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 5: Why he said, No, theyin't gonna leys play the NFL 94 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 5: no more. Now this happened in the eighties. Now, wow, 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: they said they're gonna be play no more. You beat 96 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 5: that white man too bad. That's what he said. That's 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: what they said. And he did not play another in 98 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 5: the NFL. And that's why if you look at it, 99 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 5: I mean, get mad, try to cancel me or whatever. 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 5: Washington Redskins pay him for the rest of his life 101 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 5: because they because they had to make it right. 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so how many things are wrong with that? Let's 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: start with the big one. Let's start with the big one. 104 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: Doug Williams played two more seasons. He was the starting 105 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: quarterback of the Redskins the year after he won the 106 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and then this middle of the second season 107 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 3: after the Super Bowl, he was replaced because of back issues. 108 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: He was injured and replaced by Mark Rippin. The rest 109 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: is history. Doug Williams was thirty three thirty four years old. 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: Cat caught magic in a bottle in nineteen eighty seven. 111 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: But he had been with the USFL and he played 112 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: a lot, and he got tackled a lot. Injuries ended 113 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: his career. Nothing to do with beating a white man 114 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. 115 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: No, nothing at all. And I believe he was the 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: backup the year they won the super Bowl, and the 117 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: reason he kept his job was because he won the 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: super Bowl. It's actually the opposite of this is honestly 119 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: a lot like Trump, where like not only is it 120 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: not accurate, it's a lie, series of lies, but it's 121 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: it's actually the opposite of what's being presented. What's being 122 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: presented is not just factually inaccurate. The opposite of it 123 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: is true that because he won the super Bowl and 124 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: played so well, despite the fact he'd had a winding 125 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: up and down career in and out of the NFL. 126 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: He kept his job after and by the way, it 127 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: wasn't great right like they were the next year he 128 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: started I think ten games in there, four and six, 129 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: and then the following years when he hurt his back. 130 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: So again, like, what are we actually doing here? We're 131 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: just telling lies that before the Internet you could have 132 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: gotten away with. 133 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the Internet is what made it viral 134 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: this weekend, and I think more than half the people 135 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: who saw it probably took it as truth, Doctor Willard Maxwell, Jr. 136 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: And this is what kind of frustrates me most about 137 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: this is he's presented on this podcast intro as being 138 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: a leader in a community of the New Beach Grove 139 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: Baptist Church and Newport News, Virginia. Speaks with a lot 140 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: of young people. Obviously, he lies to a lot of 141 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: young people about revisionist history and racism. So thank you, 142 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: Pastor Willard Maxwell. 143 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 144 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 145 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 146 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: This also happened over the weekend. It happened in an 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: a's game. Lawrence Butler was at the plate. Now, Chris Carey, 148 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: I just found this out. Chris Carey is the A's 149 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: play by play announcer. He does the TV games with 150 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: Dallas Braden Chip. Chris Carrey is a fourth generation. Right, 151 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: you had Harry and then you had Skip and then 152 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: you had Chip, and I think Chris is the fourth 153 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: generation of Carrie. In a broadcast booth, Holy Cale. This 154 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: is him with Lawrence Butler at the plate. 155 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: One two pitch high in the air, deep to Rye 156 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: that ball is foul or gone. 157 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: That ball was absolutely launched law Dog posing them up 158 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: at the dish. 159 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: He knew it off the bat. It was just a 160 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: matter of how. 161 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: Far Now Chris carry has gone since it became viral 162 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: this weekend, He's gone online and he said, there's no 163 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: excuse for this. He actually had a great accountable tweet 164 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: about this, but it went everywhere. And Chris Carrey's first 165 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: call was that it was foul. A couple things here 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: that I will defend him on. He says he never 167 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: saw it. It was on the lights. The right fielder 168 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: never moved, so there was no indication where the ball was. 169 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: And Lawrence Butler stood there like most hitters do now 170 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: and just pimped his hit. So, according to Chris, carry 171 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: that ball. He had no idea where the ball was, 172 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: but it was a crushed home run to right field. 173 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: This makes the second time in two months that in 174 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: A's play by play broadcaster has made this segment. The 175 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: first one was the female that's your friend that had 176 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: a strange reaction to a great play by their center fielder. Yeah, 177 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: and Chris carried over this one. 178 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: That was a weird one. There's no question about it. 179 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about it is Chris is not 180 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: He's not old, right, some of it is the John 181 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: Sterling thing was John Steul is old, he couldn't see, 182 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: whereas I don't think Chris is old. He just blew it. 183 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: No. I think he's like early twenties, probably works for 184 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: the very bare minimum that a Sacramento A's is allowed 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 3: to pay him. He's twenty five. And I do want 186 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: to say this. I mentioned this on the show. The 187 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: person who's most pissed at this highlight is John Ramos, 188 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: our dear friend. John Ramos hates nepotism. If you list 189 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: the things that John Ramos hates, nepotism is at the 190 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: very top and Chris Carey is do we imply by 191 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: playing the major leagues for one reason, you can't screw up. 192 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: You just can't screw up if you're there for one reason. 193 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to take a different angle on this. We 194 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: talked about it on the radio show, and you just 195 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: heard LeVar Arrington talk about it. But this is Aaron 196 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: Rodgers sitting with Kyle Brant this weekend. Kyle said that 197 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw criticized him, said that he should go back 198 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: to California and eat bark or whatever you do in California, 199 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: And this was Aaron Rodgers' response. 200 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: I've known Terry for a long time being a part 201 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: of Fox. Terry's a legend. He's an absolute legend. He 202 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: won four Super Bowls, He's had a legendary career in 203 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: the media. But Terry, like a lot of people, doesn't 204 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: know me, and so he's got an idea of what 205 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: he thinks about me based on what I've done, the documentary, 206 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: what I've said, darkness, the treat, whatever the hell you 207 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 4: want to talk about up I'd love to get the 208 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: note Terry on a deeper level, and I feel like 209 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 4: if he gave me a chance to get to know him, 210 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: they would have a good friendship. Because for me, I 211 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: have nothing but the utmost amount of respect and deference 212 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: for what the greats have done, because they laid the 213 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: foundation for us to be able to play in this 214 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: great game, to be paid like kings, and to carry 215 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: on the tradition of excellence that guys like the Bradshaws 216 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: of the world in the seventies and Bart Starr in 217 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: the sixties, and Lombardi and Joe Montana and Steve Young 218 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: and Troy Aikman and Brett Favre and all the greats 219 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: that have been over Tom Brady, you know, we're standing 220 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: on the on the backs of those guys. 221 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: And Hey, Doug, this is how ESPN has it on 222 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: ESPN dot com. This is how Yes, that's. 223 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: Good because I thought I thought that annoyed you, and 224 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: I was like, what's annoying about that? 225 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: I thought it was a great answer. 226 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was a really good answer. 227 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: An amazingly diplomatic answer. This is how ESPN chose to 228 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: word the headline Rogers on Bradshaw Barbs Colan. He doesn't 229 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: know me, So you're looking at that headline, Yo, whoa, 230 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: we got a conflict here between a Steelers Hall of 231 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: Famer and Aaron Rodgers. I got to click on this 232 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: and then you listen to that sound, and he could 233 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: not have been more deferential. You have a history with 234 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: ESPN and headlines. They screwed you over in December if 235 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm not if I'm getting the month wrong, yes, where 236 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: they completely misrepresented what you had done. ESPN must have 237 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: a problem with Aaron Rodgers because they did him dirty 238 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: with this headline. 239 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, and it's it's part of the problem. 240 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: For what Aaron Rodgers is kind of pointing out is 241 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: when you misrepresent people, then that's all that. There's this 242 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: thing that I mean, Look, I have lots of friends 243 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: that are writers, and obviously right now writers it's a 244 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: hard world. So I don't want to be harsh and 245 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: just jump on him and crush him. But writers always 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: go like, hey, I don't write the headlines. Yeah, I 247 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: get it, but on some level you need to control 248 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: with your editor exactly what the headlines say because it 249 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: makes everything look terrible, just does when it's completely inaccurate. 250 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: And this that's doing I'm dirty. That's not a representation 251 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: of who what Aaron Rodgers said in any way anyway. 252 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree with you. This is a really 253 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: really good answer. It's solid. And look, it's hard for 254 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: him Rodgers because he plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers and 255 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw won four Super Bowls with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 256 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: It's not just that he's a Hall of Famer, it's 257 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: not just that he's a broadcast, not just that everybody 258 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: knows him. It's like he's he's operating in at a 259 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: position for a team that he rose to prominence with 260 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: part of the Steel Curtain. But we do that. This 261 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: is what it's a reason that people don't like the 262 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: media is a misrepresentation or a hybrid. You know, you 263 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: or you cut up what somebody says and you only 264 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: get to the part that you want to get to 265 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: in an effort to kind of steer the article and 266 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: make it look like something it's not. 267 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: So the SPN headline rider we got Chris Carey nepotism 268 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: and uh pastor, I want to get his name right 269 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: in this case, he's listening, Uh pastor, William Willard, Maxwell Willard, Okay. 270 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me do this for Chris Carey, 271 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: and I love John Ramos. But here's the thing I 272 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: hate about guys that shout out nepotism, that don't know 273 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: what the fuck they're talking about. And again, and this 274 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: is partially directed at Ramos, I've never listened to Chris 275 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: Carrey call game. I can only tell you that while 276 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: it's seen as an honor or represented as an honor 277 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: to call a Major League Baseball team's games, they think 278 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: about it. Now you're calling the A's who are playing 279 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: in Sacramento, So you're not making a ton of money. 280 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: It's a ton of fucking work, and you're either good 281 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: or not good at it. And the easiest way to 282 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: tell is do you kind of move up the chain? 283 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: This is not him calling Cubbs games because he's what 284 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: is he the grandson of Harry Carey, right, It's not 285 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: him like going from nothing to calling Cubs games. It's 286 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: a he's at grinder spot. So I actually have I'll 287 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: actually defend Chris Carey even though he butcher that call. 288 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: What I can't defend is what ESPN did with Aaron Rodgers. 289 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 5: It's annoying. 290 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this because we can? 291 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh man, this is outstanding. See this is my take 292 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: on the Space that we're in right now. Is that 293 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: the hard work, the people that put the work in 294 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: find new angles on stories everyone has to talk about. 295 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: That's the work, new angles stories everyone else to talk about. 296 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: So when Matthew Stafford when it's announced this past weekend 297 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: and that he's been sidelined with a back injury, and 298 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: that Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be the QB one 299 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: for the time being, I think you had like Rams 300 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: fans that are kind of sketchy. You had the NFL 301 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: schedule makers that gave him all the prime games that 302 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: are probably a little worried. But me, no, no, I 303 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: thought about this segment on this show. I have a 304 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: great chance to bring back maybe my favorite SoundBite of 305 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: all time. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be throwing balls 306 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: to DeVante Adams on the Rams. You know what that means, 307 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 3: right from the Receiver series on Netflix. The last time 308 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: DeVante Adams was a receiver of Jimmy Garoppolo. 309 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: I gotta get the fuck out of here, for I 310 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: lose my fucking life. I have never been hit this 311 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: many fucking times in my careers. 312 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: Every game I get fucked. 313 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: Up so good, so good? Why can we play for 314 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: you because we can. That's it for the end the 315 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: Modus Podcast. Check out the radio show every day three 316 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: to five Eastern, Tell two Pacific, Fox Sports Tradio, I 317 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: Heart Radio app. I'm Doug Otlie