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Enjoy the show, guys, Hello everybody, and 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: welcome to our live coverage of President Joe Biden's first 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: State of the Union speech. IM Crystal Ball joined by 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Marshal Kaslav and Saga and Jetty and Kyle Kolinski. It 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: is all happening. We got realignment, so Kyle and friends, 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: we've got secular talk, we got breaking points. After the speech, 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Marian Williamson and zad Jalani on, so 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: make sure you join us afterwards too, and we're going 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: to stream the speech live on the channel, so you 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: don't have to go anywhere for that. As I mentioned, 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: this is actually Biden's technically his first State of the 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Union because the first year that a president is in office, 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: they deliver an address to Congress, but is not technically 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: a State of the Union. Another thing that's noteworthy is 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: this is one of the latest State of the Unions 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: that has been done. That was the choice of Speaker. 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Pelosi wanted to sort of push things off because of 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: coronavirus and because of their own agenda. We do have 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: a couple of excerpts that have been released from the speech, predictably, 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: one about Ukraine and one about the economy. I'll just 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: read a little bit of that and then you guys 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: can we can get a little bit of reaction and 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: get into the polls and some of those things. So 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: on Ukraine, they say he's planning to say American diplomacy matters. 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: Putin's war was premeditated and unprovoked. He rejected efforts at diplomacy. 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: He thought the West NATO would not respond, and he 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: thought he could divide us here at home. Putin was wrong. 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: We were ready. Also Wall Street Journal reporting that he's 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: going to announce that Russian flights will be banned from 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: US airspace. A little bit of news out of that. Yeah, 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: that definitely is some of the big news and the 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: domestic agenda. It's important to look at this as well. 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: We brought you, guys during our show about how Biden 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: is going to be talking a significant amount about inflation 51 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: and crystal the current the things that have been released 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: here guys, Actually we've all been talking about this is 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: in terms of the way the inflation messaging seems to 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: pull test the best is not necessarily like, oh about 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: cutting costs. It's about, look, we have two options. We 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: can make you poorer. Biden is set to say that's 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: the Republican plan, or I can lower your cost, and 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be going after shipping the industry in particular, 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: trying to target consolidation. They're also talking there about trying 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: to increase the amount of competition. I think, Crystal, it was. 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: It was a poll done a couple of weeks ago 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: which showed that that was the single best message that 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: was tested whenever it came to inflation. It also happens 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: to be true helping costs. So I think that's pretty significant. 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle, what are you looking at in terms 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: of the excerts on the speech right now? Well, just 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: first let me just comment on that real quick. The 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: inflation thing. You made a good point earlier, Crystal. I 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know why he doesn't just 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: blame it on corporate greed and take that. Well, it 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: seems very likely we're going to take some of some 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: of that approach. I mean, honestly, I'll predict he won't 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: do you well. I was going to say, I mean 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: very specifically, like he may say some vague things, but 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: what would actually matter is to put specific corporations on blast, right. 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: And I mean we saw this Marshall when he did 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: just a little bit with regard to the meat packing industry. 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: You know, they put on a little press release he 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: gave like a little press or that didn't get a 80 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: whole lot of tension, and for the first time, meat 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: prices actually went down a little bit because you have 82 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: mask consolidation in that industry. Americans are already a majority 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: of Americans already believe that corporate greed is not the 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: only issue with inflation, but one of the issues with inflation. 85 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: We've got corporate CEOs admitting on earnings calls that they're 86 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: jacking up prices beyond what is necessary. They're making record 87 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: breaking profits. So if he really wanted to sort of 88 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: land an easy win on the domestic agenda, I think 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you go full FDR calling them out, not just in generalities, 90 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 1: but specifics, name names, name companies. I do not expect 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: him to do that at all. Yeah, that's a good 92 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: way of putting it, just because look, it's funny. You 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: said at the start of this that Pelosi delayed this. 94 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: In retrospect, that was very, very lucky for Biden. This 95 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: isn't really about specifically the agenda item is with the 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: fact that masking is limiting up. I just came to 97 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: DC from New York. It was wild. I did not 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: have to wear a mask in a hotel welcome. That 99 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: was important. You have the fact that the Biden approach 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to diplomacy seems to be successful in terms of saying 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: we're not going to intervene with troops. I am not 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: owning this. This is Putin's responsibility. So when you combine 103 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: those factors with what you're talking about with specifically naming 104 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and naming, there's credibility because I get what you were 105 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: saying in the December sense, but I don't think until 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: now the credibility whould have just been there. I think 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: if you've thrown out different industries and different companies, people 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: would have just treated it as noise. But right now 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: the state of the Union, that's an opportunity to say something. Yeah. Yeah, 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, on the one hand, they obviously had to 111 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: basically rip this whole speech up that they'd been working 112 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: on for months, yeah, and totally go back to the 113 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: drawing board and anything that was going to be the 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: focus in the economic agenda. We saw some leaks also 115 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: that they're going to focus on climate change and make 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: that part of the case for this is how we're 117 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: going to lower inflation. I think that's a harder sell, 118 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: frankly than the sort of corporate greed angle. But all 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: of those things are going to be secondary to whatever 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: he says on Ukraine and on foreign policy. And right 121 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: now he's in we're going to get into some of 122 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: the polling specifically. Right now, he's in this tricky spot 123 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: just from the political perspective where if you ask Americans 124 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: about the approach they want us to take visa v. 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: Russian Ukraine, Biden is doing what the American people basically 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: want him to do. But if you ask them how 127 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: they feel about how Biden is doing on Russian and Ukraine, 128 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: it was like forty two percent in favor. So that 129 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: analysis of how he specifically is doing is being fed 130 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: very much through a partisan lens rather than Americans saying, oh, 131 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: I want these things done, and actually the president is 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: doing those things. Yeah. And I think the biggest problem 133 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: for him right now is that he's basically playing whack 134 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: a mole because you have these like new issues that 135 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: pop up, whether it's Russia and Ukraine or it's inflation 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: or it's gas prices, and then it's like so he 137 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: has to divert his attention to that and talk about that. 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: But then it's like you're not laying out a governing 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: vision which is like something broader, something you know, philosophical. 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: You can't. He's not really focusing on or tackling giant 141 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: issues like healthcare, which usually polls is one of the 142 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: top issues for the American people. You know, he's not 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: talking about aspects that were part of his Build Back 144 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Better agenda, like elder care, like universal pre K and 145 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the fifteen dollar minimum wage. So I don't think your 146 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: speech can really be successful if you're not really defining 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: the terms of the political era. You know, somebody like Reagan, 148 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: we all know that his thing was what the scariest 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: words in the English language are from the government. I'm 150 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: here to help you. Add Bill Clinton, and we'll get 151 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: to some of that little later on in this show. 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: But he also said the era of big government is over, 153 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: So you need to sort of if he wants to 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: really leave a legacy, he would have to pursue the 155 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: policy agenda, but also let it be known like I 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: want to usher in a new new deal era. And 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: he's not doing that. He's just playing whack a mole 158 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and that's not going to get him anywhere. Lets this 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: is a very important point, and christ so I think 160 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: we should get to the gallop numbers that you can. Yeah, 161 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: basis This is the backdrop against which this entire speech unfolds. 162 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: In addition to the Russia Ukraine conflict, you have a 163 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: country that just isn't very happy with how things are going. 164 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and throw that gallop pole up on 165 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: the screen. This is maybe the most significant number to 166 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: understand our politics today overall. You know, all the debates 167 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: about CRT or masking or any of these things, I 168 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: think is not even close to as consequential as the 169 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: fact that you have just twenty one percent of Americans 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: right now, according to Gallup, saying that they are satisfied 171 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: with the way that things are going. Seventy eight percent 172 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: of Americans say they are dissatisfied. That is among the 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: lowest ratings that we have seen. In terms of issues. 174 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Economy is the top concern, government leadership is the second 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: highest concern, and then COVID is down to thirteen percent. 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: You have forty two percent saying the giving the economy 177 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: the lowest possible ratings say it is poor, thirty seven 178 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: percent saying it's only fair, A mere twenty one percent 179 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: say that the economy is either excellent or good. And oh, 180 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: by the way, seventy percent of people say that the 181 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: economy is getting worse. So Marshall, this is the other 182 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: issue that Biden faces is Look, they've got some numbers 183 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: they can point to. They've been out there trying to 184 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: make the case. Look at job growth, you know, up 185 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: until resolve, the stock market's good. I mean, there are 186 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: things that they can point to. Even gate wage growth 187 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: has been up, even though that's been eaten away by inflation. 188 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: But you're not going to persuade the American people that 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: their lives are different than the way that they are 190 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: experiencing them. Yeah, so that's why. Look, I want to 191 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: go to Kyle's point around Bill Quinton giving the big 192 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: speech Reagan, Joe Biden isn't either of those presidents. Why 193 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: was Joe Biden elected? Joe Biden at his core was 194 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: elected because this guy is supposed to make things normal. 195 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: And I think the opportunity here isn't the ideal Opperatuny, 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: the ideo oportuty would be a governing vision for this country. 197 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: But given everything that Biden has given his fifty plus 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: years in government, what he can act shall we do 199 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: tonight is say hey, this is our reset point. I've 200 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: stabilized our position in Eastern Europe. I haven't committed troops. 201 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to escalate. I'm sure you are fearing this, 202 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: But the number one thing that people are sending me, 203 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: when they're sending in questions or talking to your friends, 204 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: is hey, is there going to be a nuclear warnicks? 205 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's only actual job for the next week or 206 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: so is going to be proving he's not going to 207 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: do anything to make that any worse. And I think 208 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: what you could then do once you've stabilized is then built, 209 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: because that's the biggest problem with the governing vision issue 210 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, let's put that gallop tear street up there, actually, please. 211 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: And the important part of that is that when satisfaction 212 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: is low and the economic concerns remain high is I've 213 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: got a book behind us, so we can't see it 214 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: right now, but I reference it all the time, Freedom 215 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: from Fear, which is FDR. You know very much to 216 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: this point, confronted major international crises abroad and a massive 217 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: economic crisis. And what he did is he confused the 218 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,359 Speaker 1: two into saying America will be strong, we will rebuild, 219 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: and he combined it with a domestic economic probe, and 220 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: especially in a major flashpoint, like right now, what you're 221 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: talking about, Marshall, When you have such and you guys 222 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: can see those those wrong track numbers there down at 223 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the bottom, that's catastrophic. He needs to combine this in 224 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: a sense of we're not gonna wage war abroad. We're 225 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna wage war on the price increase at the pump. 226 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: We will guarantee you. And I mean, I've talked so 227 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: much about this, but so much of this doesn't even 228 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: have to do with Congress. I mean, a lot of 229 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: it has to do with I will guarantee. I will 230 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: do everything in my power to bring that gas price 231 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: down to make sure. I mean, right now, crystal is 232 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: the highest we have ever seen on wheat prices since 233 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. The Spot commodity index hit the 234 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: highest level since the two thousand and eight financial crisis. 235 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: This is catastrophe. Sunflower oil seventy five percent of it 236 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: comes from Russia. People are gonna see real increase in 237 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: the price of food, in the price of gas. You know, 238 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: a four dollars a gallon national average is very likely 239 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: as a national average, not saying it to scare anybody, 240 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: but as a problem that the president needs to confront 241 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: He needs to show vigor. And this gets to actually 242 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: what Kyle said. Look, you know, no fan of a 243 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of Ronald Reagan policy, but what he was so 244 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: great at doing was to combine both the confrontation of 245 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union with how people were feeling with nineteen 246 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: seventy nine with it's mourning. We're going to crawl out 247 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: of this whole. And if he doesn't do that, then 248 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Biden is on his way to becoming you. I mean, 249 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, much to my chagrin, we 250 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: are still living in the Reagan era. So it was 251 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: incredibly politically successful, even though I find almost every part 252 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: of it to have been a disaster for our country 253 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: and for the world. Listen, when you're president, you have 254 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: to play the hand that you're dealt. Okay, this is 255 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: where we are. And so what I'll look for in 256 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: this speech is did they just like take the speech 257 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: that they wanted to give that has we saw some details? 258 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh they're going to call for raising the pell grants 259 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: by two thousand dollars. Oh wow, big deal. You know 260 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: they are gonna sort of uselessly call again for the 261 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars minimum wage, which of course we know they 262 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: have no intention of or no plan in order to 263 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: pass and some other measures the paid lead that again, 264 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: they don't seem to really have a plan to get through. 265 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: So do you just take that old speech and sort 266 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: of stick it on to a new beginning with regard 267 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: to Ukraine, or do you use what is unfolding in 268 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: our geopolitics today to stitch together a narrative around I mean, 269 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: climate is obvious here. Part of why American consumers and 270 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: the working class are so exposed is because we haven't 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: taken the steps to get off of fossil fuel. That 272 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: has made us incredibly vulnerable, not just to Russia, but 273 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: to the Saudis as well, who've been colluding with Russia 274 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: to increase prices. That's part of why you are facing 275 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: higher prices at the pump. So rally people around a 276 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: national legenda that has been brought into clear focus of 277 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: why this matters given what we see unfolding in Ukraine 278 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: and Russia. Because the more dependent we are on countries overseas, 279 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: the more we are dependent on globalization, the more vulnerable 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: we are, Kyle, the more that we have handed are 281 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, would be adversaries and competitors and some of 282 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: the worst most line actors around the world economic cudgels 283 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: that they can use against our own population. I feel though, 284 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: like Mansion has hijacked the narrative effectively. I just saw 285 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: an article on this earlier today where Joe Manchin is 286 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: out there saying like, look, this proves we need to 287 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: increase our own reliance on fossil fuels and you know, 288 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: but use our stuff from here at home. So my 289 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: guess is that Biden, in terms of his policy, is 290 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: more gonna go down that path as opposed to what 291 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about, which is like, hey, maybe this is 292 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity to totally try to get off of 293 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: fossil fuels and usher in the future when it comes 294 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: to you know, solar wind, whatever the new technology is. 295 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: Because the other thing is there are inevitable patents in 296 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: those industries that are gonna come and so the question 297 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: is do you want the US to get those patents 298 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: or do you want China or some other country to 299 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: get those patents. And if we get those patents, then 300 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: there you have it, right. There could be you know 301 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: the future of some sort of new new deal and 302 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: we start the process now. Yeah, So let me go 303 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: ahead and read this from Joe Manchin. So here's what 304 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: he said. I mean three different points. Here says we 305 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: need to ban all Russian energy imports. Now I've seen 306 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: some reports here that Russian oil is very likely to 307 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: be de facto banned from the United States. Number two, though, 308 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: he says we need to dramatically increase domestic production of energy. 309 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: And number three says we need to compel every energy 310 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: company to immediately cease any and all investment operations in 311 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: production in Russia. I think we should put Joe Mansion's 312 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: money where his mouth is, and Marshall that you and 313 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: I have been discussing that this, and you're going to 314 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: be doing something on nuclear as well. I think this 315 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: is the nuclear energy moment. I mean, we have here 316 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: the moment where we could actually call for and I 317 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: do think there could at least be some semi bard 318 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: bipartisan consensus, or at least put people's money where their 319 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: mouth is, where they say, hey, I'm not for wind 320 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: and solar. Okay, fine, let's go all in on nuclear. 321 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: That's great. When we could create an opportunity right now 322 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: to frame it, as Crystal is saying, in the context 323 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: of the geopolitical situation that we face. Look at Germany, 324 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: that's the most compelling use case we possibly can. We 325 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: have Germany here decommissions all these nuclear energy plants, increases 326 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: their reliance on Russian gas, fifty percent or something of 327 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: their energy imports now coming from there, and they're about 328 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: to face economic catastrophe, and as a result, they're actually 329 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: making sure that they're not going to decommission their nuclear 330 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: energy plants on the same timeline that they were before. 331 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: This is a time in crystal one of the immediate 332 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: things you and I called for at the day I 333 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: think on Thursday, the day of the invasion, we were like, 334 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: we need a nuclear new deal. This is actually one 335 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: of those times where this is you know, it's one 336 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: of those things that doesn't actually track with a lot 337 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: of partisan politics, and it's a way that Biden could 338 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: rise above, I think to where we are right now. 339 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: I would actually be very hard pressed to find Joe 340 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: Manchin a way to rhetorically slip out of something like that. Yeah, 341 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: and the key thing here is a lot of I 342 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: hate to say all the above energy policy, because we 343 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: know that has certain cringe elements to it. We should drill. 344 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: But in the short term. The key thing is scarce 345 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: to I mean, this is something you talk about all 346 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: the time, Crystal Like. The opportunity here for Joe Biden 347 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: is once again he can't agree with Joe Manchin on 348 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: the lowering dependence on Russia. There's the easy tie to 349 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the geopology with Russia there too, and then there's just 350 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: the broad point of with this nuclear new deal that 351 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about soccer, you need investment in science, need 352 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: investment in technology, and that also needs to be applied 353 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: to areas like clean energy and other basic spaces like 354 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: that too. So that's something comprehensive. If we're thinking back 355 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: to why build back better just didn't really catch What 356 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: were people just saying in the polling, what were they 357 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: saying on the street. It seemed like this big amount 358 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: of money and there was just no tie to it. 359 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: I think what Biden could do. I think we're getting 360 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: to the vision point you're talking about earlier, Kyle, which is, look, 361 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: America needs to come back. We can come back. Here 362 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: are these very specific ways that we can come back, 363 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: and here are the ways I specifically I'm going to 364 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: do that. This isn't just me throwing three trillion dollars. 365 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: I remember I was listening to Schamath Palapatilla on the 366 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: All In podcast and he was saying, you know what 367 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: if we just took the three trillion dollars and put 368 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: it towards solar energy, And that's what was saying. It 369 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: isn't how this works, but there's something directionally accurate about that, 370 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: in the sense that investing large amounts of money in 371 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: specific ideas would make more sense in these amorphos program 372 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: This is something you talk about all the time, which 373 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: is channeling people's energy into one big national project that 374 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: they can sink their teeth into that everybody can kind 375 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: of get on board with. That feels like, you know, 376 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: feels like kind of coming together in a way for 377 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: us to get our mojo back and restore some pride 378 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, address some of the critical 379 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: issues that we face as a country right now and listen. 380 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean the thing with Joe Biden. I was actually 381 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: talking to the leader of Elite DC Progressive organization, who 382 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: has a lot more ties in than any of us 383 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: do to the Biden administration, and he was asking me, 384 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: he was like, what do you think this was before 385 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: Ukraine and Russia. He's like, what do you think they're 386 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: even going to call for in the economic agenda? I mean, 387 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: that's the thing is we can all sort of speculate 388 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: all of these different directions because Joe Biden has never 389 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: once made it clear what his actual priorities are. Even 390 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: during Build Back Better, remember, we would talk to Jeff 391 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Stein about like, what do you think are his red 392 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: lines here? Like what does he actually care about and 393 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: pushing for? And he told us, like I that maybe 394 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: it's the free community college, and then like a week 395 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: later that was on of the bill. So you know, 396 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: the hodgepodge of things that we've seen floated as what 397 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: would be in his speech, it's just sort of random. 398 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to have been any real specific like 399 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: this is my thing, this is my legacy, this is 400 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get done, and so yeah, the Build 401 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: Back Better debate just ended up being about the price 402 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: tag rather than any specific program that people could really 403 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: understand how this is going to benefit my life. Particularly. 404 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: I think Joe Biden has totally bought into the conventional 405 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: wisdom in Washington, and it's what every staffer around him 406 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: tells him, which is like, look, man, the squad is 407 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: defining you. You've gone too far left. You got to 408 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: reel it in. So my guess is, and you're gonna 409 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: see this in the speech, and afterwards we could tell 410 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: whether or not I was right. But there's gonna be 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot of overtures to, you know, the moderate that 412 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: he thinks he's you know, not in good favor with. 413 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot of stuff on deficit 414 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: reduction and things of that nature. I do think he'll 415 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: probably throw in lines about the fifteen dolminimum wage or 416 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: this or that, but I think that the heart of 417 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: the speech is going to be to try to pick 418 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: off the never Trump Republican and the moderate voter. And 419 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I hope he goes out there swinging. 420 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: But my guess is it's going to be that mixed 421 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: with the whack a mole thing I just talked about before, 422 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: which is we got to talk about Russian Ukraine, we 423 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: got to talk about inflation, we got to talk about 424 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: high gas prices. But again, this isn't generation defining stuff, 425 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: This isn't leaving you a legacy. This is like you're 426 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: the technocratic manager who's falling flat on his face and 427 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: falling asleep halfway through his speech. You're like, in like 428 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: a terrible technocratic manager. But of course he wasn't actually competent. 429 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: That was Obama for all of his laws. That was Obama. 430 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: At least he spoke, well, let's give it to that. Yeah, yeah, 431 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean here's the big quest. Mean, we're not even 432 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: talking about the Republicans here, and that's like, that's actually 433 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: kind of the alph in the room. You all saw 434 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: Senator Rick Scott's let's just say not well managed plan. 435 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, even Mitch McConnell had to disown 436 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: there's a for the audience. Yeah, yeah, I actually can't 437 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: explain that plan. But the basic idea is Matt Eguasis 438 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: had a great joke where he said it's funny. Rex 439 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: Scott got in trouble for saying the quiet part out 440 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: loud when it came to social security, increased taxes on 441 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: working class people. Basically, Mitch McConnell has to disown it 442 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: because you're not supposed to be talking about the actual 443 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: economics of that act. And it's just like the most 444 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: cringe like kids are gonna say the pledge of elitiance again, 445 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna finish the border wall and we're gonna name 446 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: it after Donald Trump. It's like that sort of stuff. 447 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: You combined that though with like we're raised taxes on 448 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: working class Americans and also even brought back the forty 449 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: seven percent rhetoric, which takes skill in order to be 450 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: that much of an idiot. I genuinely believe he's a 451 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: low IQ. And isn't this the guy who technically is 452 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: like sort of running the campaign side of the Republican 453 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: r n r s C, which is the National Republican 454 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Senatorial Commission. So you know what's sad is they're still 455 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna it doesn't matter, Like even if so McConnell's plan 456 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: is obviously smarter of just saying nothing and letting Democrats 457 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: hang themselves, like that's clearly the smarter political direction to go. 458 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: Even if they ran on Rick Scott's complete garbage nonsense, 459 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: they still are in line for massive wins. And you know, 460 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna show you in a moment what Binds approval 461 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: rating looks like and how it compares to other presidents. 462 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: But the picture is not pretty. This is literally maybe 463 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: the first time that I've that I've been covering politics 464 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: where I've flat out agreed with Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell's 465 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: point was like, say nothing, they're gonna fall on their face. 466 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: Let them fall on their face, and everybody will just 467 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: fill in the blanks with what they think, maybe we 468 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: believe is just a pendulum swing election. We're gonna win, 469 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. And then Rick Scott comes out 470 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't know education, color blind, equality, 471 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Like it's not even they're not even really policies, they're 472 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: just like vague right wing virtue signal things. Yeah, you 473 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like there's no there there, And 474 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: he made I was saying this earlier on Twitter. He 475 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: makes Newt Gingrich's contract with America look like it was 476 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: written by Noam Chomsky. Hey, he makes him looks like 477 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: cop track for America was an actual plan. It was 478 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: saying it was a good plan, but it was. It 479 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: was a thing. And Gingrich was like, look, we're not 480 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: going to raise attack, We're gonna do X, Y and 481 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Z welfare form except and he was largely successful in 482 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: doing those things. Chrystal alluded to this five thirty eight thing. Guys, 483 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: go ahead and put the third element please, we're gonna 484 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: skip the second one. How Biden compares with past presidents. Now, 485 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: what's very important here for you guys to see is 486 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: that you can see exactly where Biden tracks with past ones. Now, 487 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: George W. Bush is obviously an operation. This is up 488 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: the post nine eleven area Biden, just so people can 489 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: see it, because it took me a long time to 490 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: figure out what the hell was trying. The green is 491 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: Biden and the black is all these different presidents at 492 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: the same period in time. For those who are just listening, 493 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: what we can go ahead and describe it as is 494 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: he's virtually tied with Donald Trump. Now. The reason why 495 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to be in that situation is that 496 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, despite having a low general approval rating, had 497 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: an extremely high approval rating within the Republican Party up 498 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: into the high ninetieth percentile. Biden, on the other hand, 499 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: only has about forty percent of Democrats we even want 500 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: him to run for president again, so has no enthusiasm 501 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: on his side whatsoever, has a general disapproval as well 502 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: as a lack of base approval. Compare him that also 503 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: to Barack Obama, and you can see the exact same thing. 504 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Obama was sitting right around forty nine point eight percent. 505 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: Biden currently at forty one point nine percent. To be clear, 506 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: these are aggregated numbers, So this is about as close 507 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: as we're going to get. Take all the grains of salt. 508 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, with the polls against George W. Bush, it's 509 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: not really all that applicable. But even look at Bill Clinton, 510 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: who himself suffered, you know, the Contract for America defeat 511 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: at this same point in his presidency. Guys, Bill Clinton 512 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: was at forty eight percent, he was almost above water. 513 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: Biden is below that. Biden is below where George W. 514 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Bush was at this time. He was at seventy eighth three. Sorry, 515 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: obviously everybody's always going to be below W and also 516 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: above W in an interesting sense. But I think the 517 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: final and the most important comparison I'm going to continue 518 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: to track all the way through as Jimmy Carter. Jimmy 519 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Carter was more popular and Joe Biden was at this 520 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: time in his presidency. Don't get me wrong, Carter does 521 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: have the all time low at twenty eight point eight percent. 522 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: But if Biden does not handle himself well, not just 523 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: necessarily tonight, but throughout this international crisis, and if the 524 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: inflation of the stagflation continues to come, if we see 525 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: gas hit, for example, five dollars a gallon across the nation, 526 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: or gas lines or anything like that, I think he's done. 527 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: So here's what I will say as a little bit 528 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: of maybe a bright spot for Joe Biden is it 529 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: does seem like in a couple of the very latest 530 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: approval polls it's ticked up a couple of points more 531 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: to the like forty two forty four range. But to 532 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: work with that, you know, the problem with him being 533 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: more or less tied with Trump, Marshall is that the 534 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: people who liked Trump really liked Trump. The people who 535 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: are still with Biden are like, this is maybe the best. 536 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Look again, it is, okay, I certainly like him better 537 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: than the other guys. He doesn't have he has the 538 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: hard opposition. Now, I mean that used to be kind 539 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: of his strength. Is. Yeah, he didn't have like the 540 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: people who were in love passionately in love with him, 541 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: but he also didn't have the passionate hatred. Early on 542 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: in the presidency, he didn't make that good of a 543 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: villain for Republicans. They were going after other stuff and 544 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: trying to tie them to AOC and that sort of stuff. 545 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: Now he's got the passionate hatred burning for him on 546 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: the other side, and he does not have a passionate 547 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: core base that is going to show up for him 548 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: through thick and thin. So that really creates a worst 549 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: of all worlds, where in a certain way, it's even 550 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: worse than that terrible picture we just showed you of 551 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: his approval rating being among the lowest of any president 552 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: in recent history. Chris, what you just set that up perfectly. 553 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: Soccer and I were talking about this on the way 554 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: into the show, which is the Republican parties in a 555 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: bind given everything you just said, because like you said, 556 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: there are very few. There's not even a nickname for 557 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: like the Biden people because they are the chromo sexuals. 558 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't really know what a Biden's stand Sleepy stand, Yeah, 559 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: sleepy stand, I like sleeper stand. Actually, I'm actually you 560 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: should quite yeah. But the thing is, do you know 561 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: what people are going to stand for quote unquote opposing Trump? 562 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: So Trump, the person who would walk away with the 563 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: Republican nomination if held today, if held tomorrow, if held 564 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: a year from now, is the person who would activate 565 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: the Democratic base because guess what, You're right, no one 566 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: is going to get up and just affirmatively fight for 567 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. That's a situation where if you're Governor Ron DeSantis, 568 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: you're in a good place. And Cruiser, there's a couple 569 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: of Republicans where this seems to be a good situation. 570 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: But if Trump is nominated, that seems to be the 571 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: only way out that I could straightforwardly see for Joe 572 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: Democrat y. In terms of the enthusiasm gap you're describing there, 573 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Trump instantly instantly changes that. I'm not sure I agree 574 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: with that. I think Trump still to this day is 575 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: perpetually underestimated. Don't get me wrong. There's a lot of 576 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: signs that he's sort of off in the wilderness a 577 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: little bit. Now. He cannot stop talking about January sixth. 578 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: It's like this is the last thing anybody wants you 579 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: to be talking about. But never underestimate Donald Trump. And 580 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: by the time the next election comes around, Biden can't 581 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: just hang out in his basement all day like you 582 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: did for the last elections. He's got to actually get 583 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: out there on the countra May you think you think 584 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Trump would be a more formidable opponent than sort of 585 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: generic Republican X. No. I think generic Republican X would 586 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: probably have a higher likelihood of beating Biden. But I 587 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: think if it's Trump versus Biden again, it's a coin toss. Yeah, yeah, 588 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: I think that's right. You know, this is always the 589 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: issue with Trump, which is his own worst enemy. He's 590 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: also probably the best quote unquote Republican because he has 591 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: a huge amount of polarization. He can get people to 592 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: come out to the polls lover or hate him. He 593 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: activates almost every citizen in the country. Had the highest 594 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: number of people who came out to vote for him, 595 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: the most votes of any Republican president. He just doesn't 596 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: tell you about the other side of that election for 597 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: a sitting president. But the reason why it's important on 598 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: this front is Trump is the X factor. He does 599 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: literally change everything. The other problem, though, in a lot 600 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: of our analysis, is that the desantisis of the world 601 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: and all of them. If Trump runs, it's not going 602 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: to happen. He is the nominee. He runs, it won't 603 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: run exactly. So it's the only way in which this 604 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: entire election will play out. Here's the reason why I 605 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: think Trump is more formidable in twenty twenty four, make 606 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: America great again after years of inflation of Russia. Of 607 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: all of this is a potent symbol. Here's the other thing. 608 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: The best thing that ever happened to Donald Trump was 609 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: getting kicked off of Twitter because people forgot how annoying 610 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: he and I unfortunately still have to read all of 611 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: his adiotic statements about did you see so and so 612 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: on Fox News? Thanks for them. By the way, Trump team, 613 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: please unsubscribe me from these. I want to build into 614 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: that said, look at what Trump said the day and 615 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be MSNBC here, but the day of 616 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: Putin's invasion, Trump was like, oh, that was a very 617 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: smart move. That is an example of how can you 618 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: imagine how bad the tweets would have been. Yeah, and 619 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: now he's praising Zelensky. He's doing is like trumpy thing. 620 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: But that's what people don't like. So I think this 621 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: is really end book. We know by now we've on this. Jesus, 622 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: we've done this for like seven years. He is not 623 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: going to change. So the question is how much. But 624 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: I want to say something because what's interesting is it's 625 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: not just that Trump's running again on MAGA if he runs, 626 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: he's basically running on make America twenty nineteen again, which 627 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: is and that is a potent argument, and that's going 628 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: to be very tough on the Biden in terms of 629 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: the job numbers, the general like, what is a mask? 630 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: What is COVID? When I was president? He could say 631 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: it over and over. Man, that's the poles. Then you 632 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: guys covered this whole show. But the majority of Americans 633 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: think that it would not have happened when Trump was president. 634 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: So it's a weird I mean, listen, the bottom line 635 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: of what that matchup is going to be is how 636 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: people feel about the economy at that point, how they 637 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: feel about the right track, wrong track. And there are 638 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: things that could go horribly awry for him. You could 639 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: continue to have inflation spike, you could continue to have 640 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: people feel like they're you know, stuck in reverse, or 641 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: you could have some things bounce in their direction where really, 642 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: through no doing of his own, the economic prospects are 643 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: looking a lot better. Mass, I mean, Mass are already 644 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: coming off. That sense of the return to normal is 645 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: coming into place sort of right now. So that's what 646 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: it's ultimately going to come down to. Because Lord knows, 647 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: this man is not really going to accomplish any more 648 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: agenda before we get to the presidential election. So it's 649 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: going to be the whims of what the overall climate is. Kyle, 650 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't see the light at the end of the 651 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: tunnel for Biden because the way out for him he 652 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: can't rely on like charisma or like his base. So 653 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: the way out for him is policy, and he's just 654 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: shown he doesn't have the chops. He doesn't have the 655 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: LBJ ability or the FDR ability to arm twist the 656 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: senators and his own party to get them to come 657 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: on board, and so he's just stuck in limbo. You 658 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: guys don't think the Bipartisan Infrastructure Deal or BIFF as 659 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: it's labeled here, and that's not going to get him 660 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: over the fill about I'll defend I'll defend Biden on this. 661 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: Someone has to look, he doesn't have ftr's majorities, he 662 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: doesn't IBJ's majorities. Like this is this is the problem 663 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: for Joe Bryan though. But what I'm just saying though, 664 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: is I mean, look, let's take this back to twenty eleven. 665 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: So if the Obama issue, Obama's shellacked in the mid terms, 666 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: but then what the Republican probably doesn't spent two years 667 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: of cringe. So the thing I'm also curious about is 668 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: how are Republican's going to perform during once they once 669 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: they went in the Midt was like, what is going 670 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: to because that's the fact that we're not really discussing here, 671 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: which is like, is Marjorie Taylor Green going to do 672 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: another like Nazi rally, like like you know, like like 673 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: that that That's what I'm generally wondering because that pressure 674 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: is going to be because people because what happened in 675 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty eleven is they got cocky, and I think people 676 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: are going to be so cocky and I think they 677 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: and like as I saw for Scott Rich Scott he's 678 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: playing running for president. Everyone knows this and that plan 679 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: was a mini preview what happens when a bunch of 680 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: people who think they have a shot over reach. She 681 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: spent some time on this. This is a good point. 682 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, we were talking before should we cover the 683 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Republican response? And I was like, I don't think anybody 684 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: cares Kim Reynolds, Like I barely know who she is, 685 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody's going to tune in to 686 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: these things. These used to be king making nights, you know, 687 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean Marco or they were, yeah, Kennedy, Oh my god, 688 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: weird lip one was the best though. I don't know nobody, 689 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: nobody ruined, but Marco Rubio has kind of made a 690 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a comeback. That was the last we 691 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: ever heard of that dude. That was I think Stacey 692 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Abrams did one of the Trump these things, these were 693 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be, you know, the slot. It was supposed 694 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: to be like a real thing. But also in the 695 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: age of primetime TV, a lot of that stuff is dead. 696 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: The reason Kim Reynolds I think was chosen is anadym. 697 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: It's just nothing. It's like, okay, generic Republican Joe Biden 698 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: is making us weak. I do not even know why 699 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but is making us week less. What 700 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: we're going to see is just the generic Biden bad, 701 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: the country bad, the radical left and inflation. And by 702 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: the way, it's going to be extremely The reason why, though, 703 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: is that it can't have a face on it. It 704 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: has to be on the macro political trends. It has 705 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: to be one of those things where when you vote 706 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: are you're not voting for a personality you're just voting 707 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: or not even voting for some thing. You're voting against 708 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: the status quo. That's the single most important thing for 709 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: the party. But to Marshall's point, the reason Obama was 710 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: an eminently beatable politician in twenty twelve, people think about 711 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: him like he was a god. Remember he still only 712 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: won Florida by point eight percent or whatever. In twenty twelve. 713 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: He got God blessed him with Mitt Romney. Now, if 714 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: you have a formidable candidate, who if you have a 715 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: different Republican party at that time, that doesn't go full 716 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to remember what even twenty eleven politics, 717 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 1: they were attacking social security look at this one, pulling 718 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: some Al Gore you know type thing, and then Obama 719 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: and them truly weaponized against Romney and Paul Ryan in 720 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: that election. And still they didn't win by that much. 721 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: People do forget this. The popular vote was significantly less 722 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: than two thousand and eight. This is a similar situation 723 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: where I never underestimate the Republicans to screw things up, right, 724 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: So we could see some ridiculous ba Ghazi side show, 725 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green doing something, Rick Scott, you know, passing 726 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment or whatever that the balance budgets or 727 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: you know that these are the exact type of things 728 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: which we could see. We've seen it time and time again, 729 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: and especially with fringe characters like Claire McCaskill's race in 730 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, there are always especially with the 731 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: rising number of Kouks, and especially you know, the media 732 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: is obviously gonna be gunning for the Republicans too in 733 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: that election. They're gonna pick whoever they can. Right now, 734 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the Marjorie Taylor Green and all that 735 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: obsession is cringe. But hey, look, I mean they're gonna 736 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: give our a committee seat back, right, that's a whole 737 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: other news cycle about what's happening. Who knows in terms 738 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: of some of the writers and things that they're going 739 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: to insert on these bills. You know, another thing we 740 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: should out underestimate, Crystal is a government shutdown. They would 741 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: absolutely shut the government down. I'm almost certain of it. 742 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: They've been floating it constantly about like we've got to 743 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: defund the Democratic lockdowns and like a LINTI lockdown. But 744 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of strategy all of that, I 745 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: get why it would play with the base. We have 746 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: no idea, how the national public well respond to that. 747 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: So the current state of the Republican Party a it 748 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: is no consensus. Trump has made it more boorish in 749 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: rhetoric that is going to come out to no unifying agenda. 750 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: It could be a boon to Joe Biden. Well, and 751 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: they're doing these kind of like it's sort of like 752 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: identity politics for the working class, Like we're going to 753 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: say worker a lot, and we're going to like maybe 754 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: float putting a worker without any power or vote on 755 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: the board. Like it's the same. It's like a diversity initiative, 756 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: except for the working class. So when you find out 757 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: there's no there there in terms of the new rhetoric, 758 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: it can ring as hollow as I think the identity 759 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: politics plays do now. But you know, the other piece 760 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: of this that I think is really important is that 761 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: a majority of Democrats don't want Joe Biden to be 762 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: the nominee next time. And so that opens a huge 763 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: door where I think it is very likely he faces 764 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: a primary opponent. Do I think if he's able to 765 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: run and all that, that it's going to be easy 766 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: for a primary opponent to defeat him. No, he's an 767 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: incumbent president, he's a leader of the Democratic Party. There's 768 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: going to be all kinds of rallying, of the circling 769 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: of the wagons, that's the saying. But you've got a 770 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: major dissatisfied chunk of the Democratic Party who's looking at 771 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: the writing on the wall just like we are and saying, 772 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is our best hours to 773 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: go up against Donald Trump again. That electability narrative that 774 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: he had last time he may have to work to reclaim, 775 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: especially if the midterms go as poorly as we expect 776 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: him to. Yeah. You know, I hate to say this 777 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: because it sounds too definitive, but I think we live 778 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: in the pendulum age, so when it comes to politics, 779 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: and the reason I think that is because nobody is 780 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: really substantively serving the people. So what you see is 781 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: one party wins and people go, oh, this is terrible. 782 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: It's for for the other guys. And the other party 783 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: wins people are oh, this is terrible. It's forth for 784 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: the other guys. You just go back forth, back forth, 785 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: back forth, back forth. So you know, by that logic, 786 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: it's honestly anything could happen in twenty twenty four because 787 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: if the Republicans win big in these midterms, as we 788 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: sort of expect them to, then people might go, well, 789 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: the acting really weird too, So maybe you do go 790 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: for a Democrat for twenty twenty four. I don't know, 791 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: but I I really do think the overarching theme is 792 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: that we live in the pendulum age because people just 793 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: they vote for somebody they hate them because they don't deliver. 794 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: Then they just vote for the other people. Yeah, we've 795 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: basically had like six change elections in a row. Just 796 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: to give people an update, the president is inside the 797 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: motor cade. It's about a two minute drive basically because 798 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: he gets the entire street cleared for him. Thank you 799 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: for the traffic. By the way, mister President. He's on 800 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: his way over to the Capitol. So usually there's a 801 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a song and dance. He'll be greeted obviously, 802 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: then he goes traditionally to there's like a chapel where 803 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: he's supposed to pray, and then after that they bring 804 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: him to the floor and then there's that famous moment, 805 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: which of course we'll have for all of you, which 806 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: is late, you know, the Sergeant of Arms saying, Madam speaker, 807 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: the President of the United States, and he'll enter the building. 808 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: So I think, Kyle, should we pivot over to you 809 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: thought it was important in order to put these clips 810 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: together of historical ones. Why don't you set that up 811 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: for the audience. Yeah. So I was looking back at 812 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: the old school interesting and important and somewhat historic moments 813 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: from the State of the Union, speeches from modern history, 814 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: and we went ahead and put together a nice compilation 815 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: here that I want to share with everybody, and then 816 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: we'll react. So take a look. We know big government 817 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: does not have all the answers. We know there's not 818 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: a program for every problem. We know, and we have 819 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: work to give the American people a smaller, less bureaucratic 820 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: government in Washington. And we have to give the American 821 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: people one that lives within its means. The era of 822 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: big government is over. The Iraqi regime has plotted to 823 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: develop anthrax and nerve gas and nuclear weapons for over 824 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: a decade. This is a regime that has already used 825 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens, leaving 826 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This 827 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: is a regime that agreed to international inspections then kicked 828 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something 829 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: to hide from the civilized world. States like these and 830 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: their terrorist allies constitute an access of evil, arming to 831 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: threaten the peace of the world by seeking weapons of 832 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: mass destruction. I have no more campaigns to run. My 833 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: only agenda, I know, because I won both of them. Yeah, 834 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: but we must reject the politics of revenge, resistance and 835 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: retribution and embrace the boundless potential of cooperation, compromise, and 836 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: the common good. Thank you very much, America, Thank you 837 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: very much. Here's what I have to say that thank you. 838 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: You're bringing back memories. Man. Some of Crystal's early moments 839 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: on Rising were a lot of these. The resistance types 840 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: really loved when she ripped up the paper, but realized 841 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: it went on that long. I forgot you. Memory holds 842 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: a lot now. The clap thing, Interestingly enough, when she 843 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: was asked about that, she was like, I don't know 844 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: what you guys were talking about. I was clapping because 845 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: I actually liked the speech, right, So they were trying 846 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: to be like, yes, Queen, oh my god, you're throwing 847 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: shade with this sarcastic clap, and She's like, no, I 848 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: actually kind of like the speech. We didn't we didn't 849 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: get the standing ovation for one Guido and there either 850 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, respect in the way that we put 851 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: that together, though. Isn't that the perfect symbol kind of 852 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: of the republic Right, So you had these moments. The 853 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: era of big government is over. Bill Clinton, he changes 854 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: the entire Democratic Party, eventually does run on I'm sorry, 855 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: it does enact some policy, not all good, but you know, 856 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: works with the works with the Republicans to get something done. 857 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: George W. Bush the Axis of evil speed. There is 858 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: no denying that changed the face of the world forever. 859 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: Not for the better, but he did certainly change the 860 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: entire world. There's no getting around that one. And then 861 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: you start to see the degradation of Obama celebrity politics. 862 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: It's all about him, it's never about actually anything. And 863 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: then finally it comes to the Trump clip. We were 864 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: all trying to decide, We're like, what is a memorable 865 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: time from the Trump state of the Unions. I was like, honestly, 866 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: the only ones I can remember are Pelosi clapping and 867 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: tearing them to speech. But that is the perfect symbol 868 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: of what the Trump era was, right. The resistance liberals 869 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: and I mean that captured a very ended up being 870 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: important political coalition wine moms, and Trump in his response 871 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: also captured a significant coalition of people who are like, 872 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: she's so rude, even though you Trump will tweet Dormy 873 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: Daniel's horse face or whatever. Really, what it came down 874 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: to was what it collapsed is into this moment of 875 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: the politics of just nothing thing of pure theater of 876 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: cultural resentment. We were saying before, oh man, we should 877 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: have while the clip was playing, I was like, man, 878 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, we should have put in that uli moment 879 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: with Joe Wilson whenever he accused Obama of lying. Although 880 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't during the State of the Union. I think 881 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: it was during some specialist dress I think or whatever 882 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: I think you might be because he was he was 883 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: censored and all that. But I remember he raised like 884 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: ten million dollars the next day and that changed everything, right, 885 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: Like that was the signature moment, Marshall, where you could 886 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: see these these backbench Joe Wilson was nobody South Carolina 887 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: congressman tea party. He became a star, and that was 888 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: on Hannity every night. That was actually the first State 889 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: of the Union. It was two thousand and nine. So yeah, 890 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: so that was very early in Obama's presidency. Well, just 891 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: to build on this, and this is why we'll come 892 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: a foreign policy person. But I'm really, I genuinely care 893 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: in a way that I haven't typically during the Trump era. 894 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: What Biden has to say around in the sense that 895 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: what is Bill Clinton doing? And that big government is 896 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: over speech, he's responding to the fact that the Democratic 897 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: Party needed to get its mojo back in the late nineties, 898 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: after you know, re election, after the Contract of America. 899 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: What is George Bush doing? Like obviously everyone at this 900 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: table did not like a single thing George Bush did 901 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: in that speech, But that being said, he was responding 902 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: to nine to eleven saying, this is what I am doing, 903 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, when once again I don't think the afghan 904 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: withdrawal was the sheer cause of his polls collapsing, but 905 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: I think it was timing was just terrible, the timing 906 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: fish inflation. He has an opportunity tonight to say, look, 907 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: the reason why the US is playing a stabilizing role 908 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: in Europe, the reason why we have the energy to 909 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: pursue these things and build coalitions, is because we're not 910 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. And people gave me shit for that. But 911 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: we're working from the playbook that I built. I said 912 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: I was going I was going to not go into 913 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: these wars of choice the way my predecessors have. I 914 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: am keeping us safe. I think that's the moment that 915 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: once again it cannot be everything, like you're saying, Kyle, 916 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 1: but I think he needs that as the moment of statement. 917 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: And once again that's actually the perfect ground from the 918 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: defied on Republicans because once again most Republicans actually agree 919 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 1: operationally with his policy people. This is the one era 920 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: area of actual bipartisan other than you know, weird mister 921 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: Congresson or Congress are wicker h Other than a few 922 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: random members who frankly are not driving the debate, he 923 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: has actual agreement here. Yeah, I guarantee you he's not 924 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: going to brag about one of the few good things 925 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: he did, which is pulling out of Afghanistan. I guarantee 926 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: you the colment he could reframe it. I hope he does. 927 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: But the gigantic media pylon afterwards, I think it scared 928 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: him off of it. I remember when we were interviewing 929 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: Rocanna and we asked him like, well, so it was 930 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: a rack up next, and even Rocanna was like after 931 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: this reaction, like, I don't think so, and you know 932 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: that that's the problem. Not to mention and then finish 933 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: your point, but not to mention that he really has 934 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 1: soured the good that he did there by then freezing 935 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: their assets. That's to trigger a complete financial system collapse, 936 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: massive famine and economic devastation that could end up being 937 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: worse than you know, even the horrors that they suffered 938 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: over these many years. It's honestly worse than the war, 939 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: to be honest with the number of people that are 940 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: starving and just how devastating it is. But to get 941 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: a little less serious for a second. My embarrassing admission 942 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: is that I thought that Obama moment was actually awesome. 943 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: He was quick on his feet, he was quick on 944 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: his feet. Like that's not like, can you imagine Biden 945 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: saying something like that, he's more likely to fall asleep 946 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 1: halfway through your thoughts on this, which is just here's 947 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: what here's here's where I pushback on you is Kyle, 948 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're very rightfully dunking on Biden's sleepiness 949 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: and always very like obvious flaws. But you're critiquing him 950 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: for not having this like big vision, Like it just 951 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: seems like you know to do with Donald Runstrow quick, 952 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: Like you go to war with the army you have, 953 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: with the army you want. As a Democrat, you know 954 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: you're going to politics with the Biden you have, not 955 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: the Biden you want. Like, given the constraints, they're illustrating, 956 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: like what do you actually want him to do? So 957 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: that's actually a great question, and that kind of translates 958 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: it or transfers into what we were going to talk 959 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: about next. So I mean, first and foremost, what you 960 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: have to do is brag about the good stuff that 961 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: you actually did. That's what every president does in one 962 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: of these speeches. So right off the bat, I would 963 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: brag about the fact that Biden raised the minimum wage 964 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: to fifteen dollars an hour for all federal government employees 965 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: and federal government contractors. That's something I would really be 966 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: aggressive on. The Other thing is he did right to 967 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: repair remember that for the farmers. Now most now don't 968 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: know what it is. That was a huge deal. Most 969 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: people don't know what that is. But he has an 970 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to explain it to people used to be like 971 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: forced to take your equipment into John Deere and then 972 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: pay them to fix your stuff. And then now he said, no, 973 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: that's crazy. You have a right to repair your own stuff. 974 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: Pulling out of Afghanistan, and something else that I would do. 975 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: One of the things that's not talked about nearly as 976 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: much as it should be is that he actually massively 977 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: reduced the drone war. Too massively reduced drone war. So 978 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: those are some of the things that I would brag 979 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: about if I was him. But the other thing I 980 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: would do is, look, I would go full almost like 981 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: Joker mode if I was Biden, and I would call 982 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: out the exact people who are blocking his agenda, and 983 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: I would be specific about why they're blocking it. I 984 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: would say, it's the Republican Party, and then you got 985 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: Kirston Cinema, and you got Joe Manchin, and these people 986 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: are taking a tremendous amount of money from giant corporations, 987 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 1: and then they're blocking all these basic things that everybody 988 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: wants according to the polling. And I have some of 989 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: the polling in front of you right now. So people 990 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: want medicare price reduction or you know, lowering drug prices. 991 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: That's seventy three percent popular that's being blocked, lowering the 992 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: medicarriage fifty nine percent popular, universal pre k fifty nine 993 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: percent popular, to his free community college fifty eight percent popular. 994 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on here, extending the child 995 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: tax benefit that's nine points over water, and then of 996 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: course the tax hikes. All these things are being tax 997 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: hikes on the wealthy. I should be clear. All these 998 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: things are being blocked by those people right there, and 999 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 1: the reason why they're blocking it is because they're corrent 1000 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: and because they're bought by their donors. So I want 1001 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: you to know who the problem is, and I want 1002 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: you to know that I'm going to work around that. 1003 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: And what I'm gonna do as soon as I'm done 1004 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: with this speech is go sign an executive order on 1005 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: eliminating student loan debt. You know, an executive Let's do 1006 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: free college by doing rolling student loan debt elimination, which 1007 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: you can do through executive order. I would go down 1008 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: a whole list of things. I'm gonna legalize marijuana that 1009 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: very least decriminalize it, and I'll do through executive order 1010 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: that that's something that pulls a like sixty seventy percent now, 1011 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: But again, I don't think he has it in him. 1012 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: I just don't think he just doesn't agree with the 1013 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: things I'm saying. So I think this gets to what 1014 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: Marshall was saying, which is, at the end of the day, 1015 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 1: Biden is who he is, all right, Like he's got 1016 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: one strength, He's pretty empathetic. Joe's gone, Yeah, a shining moment. 1017 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. I mean, he is the 1018 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: one who told us to measure him against FDR. I 1019 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: mean they were the ones who set up that there. Yeah, 1020 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean they his team. They were the ones going 1021 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: out there and telling everybody this is gonna be FDR. 1022 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: And this is as transformational as FDR. And I also 1023 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: would say, and I've kind of changed my thinking on this. 1024 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, when he was running for president, I was like, 1025 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: he's running on nothing. I mean, return to normal, that's nothing. 1026 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: But actually return to normal can be interpreted as an 1027 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: extraordinarily maximalist kind of a thing, because I mean, what 1028 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: does that mean for people? I think when people think 1029 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: about normal, they're not just thinking about, hey, we're going 1030 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: to take off masks. They're thinking about sometime in their 1031 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: life where things felt like they were working and like 1032 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: America was moving forward, and we had confidence and we 1033 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 1: had optimism that, you know, things for our kids are 1034 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: going to be better than how they are for us, 1035 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: and so on the one hand, it seemed like kind 1036 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: of a nothing of a statement and framing for the election. 1037 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: On the other hand, it set people up for to 1038 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: project a big vision on what that meant to them 1039 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: that he clearly has failed to deliver on. No, that's 1040 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: a good one piece of news for the geeks out there. 1041 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: Gina Raymondo is the designated survivor for tonight of the 1042 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: Commerce Secretary. And also we're being governed Harvard Island for 1043 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: more governor of Rhode Island and being told that we're 1044 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: on standby here. Pelosi apparently has hit the gavel and 1045 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,479 Speaker 1: the President could be walking into the chamber at any moment. 1046 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: So as soon as the President enters there, we'll go 1047 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: ahead and put him up there on the screen. Total 1048 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: corporate tools. She's the one that's left or el screw. 1049 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: She could listen if you were gonna not the not 1050 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: not the nuclear annihilation that ended everything, but you know, 1051 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: the corporate the remaining We had nuclear annihilation, and we 1052 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: had a return to like nineteen eight I don't really know. Well, look, 1053 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: here's the here's a here's the second question for you too, 1054 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: because you were talking about the primary. So there's two 1055 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: different versions of a primary for Biden. I see. One 1056 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 1: is the holy crap, Kamala can't win, Holy crap, Biden 1057 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: can't win. We need to get a peat bootage, a 1058 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 1: resigned from the cabinet. That's this is a certain center 1059 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: rough version. That's the center left version. Yeah, but then 1060 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: there's the progressive version. I'm curious how you think Biden 1061 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: should respond or defend against both both different versions. Do 1062 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: some stuff and be more popular. I mean, you know, 1063 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was not more complicated than just you know, 1064 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: actually have an agenda. You know. I do think he 1065 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 1: may get some credit for his handling of the situation 1066 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: with Ukraine and Russia. They were out front. It's being 1067 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: filtered through partisan lens. Let's actually put up the polling 1068 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: from CNN. It was the second element that we had 1069 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: in the list. We used it in the show earlier today. 1070 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,959 Speaker 1: But you know, some of the things that the American people, 1071 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: by the way, are like wholesale on board with. I 1072 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: am personally not, but there is a broad consensus among 1073 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 1: the American public, eighty three percent of Americans in the 1074 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: CNN poll that second element guys said they favor increased 1075 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: economic sanctions against Russia in response to the invasion with 1076 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: just seventeen percent, and posed a majority do not want 1077 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: boots on the ground here. So most Americans are basically 1078 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: saying we want what Biden is doing now. On the 1079 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: other hand, and this is kind of generationally, it's actually 1080 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: interesting too. There aren't they partisan splits here, But younger 1081 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: Americans were less hawkish when asked the question like do 1082 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: you want them to do more undefined more? They were 1083 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: less sort of hawkish and aggressive on those things. But 1084 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: you also see some partisan differences emerging in the like 1085 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: sort of the toughness of their stance. So you now 1086 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: have eighty percent of Republicans in a different poll. I 1087 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: think it was Quinnipiac saying that Biden hadn't done enough, 1088 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: that he needed to do more. This was after you 1089 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: had a kind of Republican emerging conversation about like we 1090 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: should just avoid this thing altogether. Now they're all in 1091 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: on it needs to be tougher and it needs to 1092 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: be more. But I do think this is an opportunity 1093 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: where he can take some credit for some foresight, for 1094 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: some leadership where people are generally behind the direction that 1095 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: he's going in, and you know it may ultimately improve 1096 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: his positioning here something something kind of wild. It just 1097 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: occurred to me. We've been doing this for fifty four minutes. 1098 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: We have not talked about COVID or natal COVID policy. 1099 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: I talked about mag But that's crazy. I mean, what 1100 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: three weeks ago on the show, what were we talking 1101 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: about school, mass Man dates, bax Man dates. Gotis whether 1102 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: this was going to get rolled back at what point, 1103 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: Doctor Fauci. I think they've like locked him up and 1104 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: put a gag on the guy and thrown him away 1105 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 1: in deposit. Frankly, yeah, we should mask him forever and 1106 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: keep him be gone. But that's frankly, probably this could 1107 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: be one of the best things that ever happened to 1108 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And I'm only judging this in a pure 1109 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: political case. I'm not saying it's a good thing that 1110 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: war erupted in Ukraine, but it changed the media narrative 1111 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: completely and totally right. And so now he's on ground 1112 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: where most people kind of agree with where he is 1113 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: in the most hot button issue and This also gives 1114 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: the hyper libs the off ramp that they needed to 1115 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: stop caring. I mean, here today is March first, we're 1116 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: taping this to the Finally, the DC mass mandate expired. 1117 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: I was shocked at the number of masks that came off, 1118 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 1: either at my gym or or you know, other coffee 1119 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: shop I usually go to, because I remember in the 1120 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: last time that the mass mandate came off, it was 1121 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: still like seventy thirty something like that. This time it 1122 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: was actually completely switched. So this gives people the off ramp. 1123 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: It gives people with online activism for something to argue 1124 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: about which is different, and most importantly, they can kind 1125 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: of just let it all slip and die. I mean, 1126 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: at this point, I don't think that there is a 1127 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: single national mass mandate. I could be totally wrong. Left 1128 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 1: in the country, there may be some school mass mandates 1129 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: that are expiring in like fifteen days. But absent that 1130 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: this is it's over. And so Biden apparently is going 1131 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: to lay out is whatever next phase of the pandemic. 1132 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: I would say, don't even touch it, man, just be like, hey, 1133 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: look we declared victory. We won. That's great. We remember 1134 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 1: the eight hundred thousand Americans who died from COVID. It 1135 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: was a terrible tragedy. But we're all moving on. Here. 1136 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: We see the vaccine mandates end in New York, New 1137 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: York City, we see the mass mandates I've expire, even 1138 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: marshally from Oregon. Even over in Oregon, we're seeing this. 1139 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: So this is a blessing in disguise, I think really 1140 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: to Biden for the end of COVID, because otherwise, let's 1141 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: say Ukraine did not happen, how much COVID talk we're 1142 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: gonna be having at this table, I think it would 1143 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 1: be astronomical. So it's definitely over in terms of the 1144 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: public caring all that much about it. But in terms 1145 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: of what's actually happening, I mean there's still what a 1146 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: thousand deaths a day or something like that, but I 1147 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: mean the public has calibrated itself to that, right. I mean, 1148 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: at this point, you're vaccinated or you're and you're very ill, 1149 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: and we're very sorry about that. But that's how it is. 1150 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: In some ways, to Marshall's point, the bar has lowered 1151 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: to like, please, I just don't want to die in 1152 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: nuclear war. So as long as as long as We're 1153 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: not dying in nuclear war. Everybody's like, you know, that 1154 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: Biden guy, maybe he's not doing as bad of a 1155 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: job as I thought he was. But yeah, like the 1156 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: people are general. And by the way to the sanctions 1157 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: thing too, I just want to add this for the record, 1158 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: is that I do think people are almost too much 1159 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: in favor of it sanctions that would even hurt the 1160 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,959 Speaker 1: Russian people. Like, I'm all in favor throw the book 1161 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: at the oligarchs, sol the book at Putin. But in 1162 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: terms of like, you know, the thing that I saw 1163 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter the other day, all these people couldn't even 1164 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: use the subway in Moscow because they stopped Google, pay, 1165 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: Apple Play or whatever. They live in a pariah state. 1166 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: Now that's their whole orientation towards the world changed overnight. 1167 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm in the three percent that said they 1168 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: did too much. There's like three percent of the public 1169 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: that agrees with us that it went too far in 1170 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: terms of hitting ordinary Russian citizens. But I recognize that's 1171 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: a very small minority view. If you give people specifics, 1172 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: they might agree with us. I mean, here's here's the 1173 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: big problem. The big problem is that Russia's using vacuum 1174 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: bombs on civilians, like pretty much rantively speak right now. 1175 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that's once again, once once 1176 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: you And this is why the polling on this is 1177 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: this has been the I'll be honest, like the polling 1178 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: is really depressing. I think Americans with this these p 1179 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: have recognized nuance in a way that typically hasn't been allowed, 1180 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: in the sense that people say, look, we know that 1181 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: we could send in jets and troops and make a 1182 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: just pretty clear difference on the ground, but that being said, 1183 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: that could risk nuclear war. We don't want to engage 1184 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: in these wars a choice, but that being said that 1185 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: there have to be consequences for this. And and I 1186 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: know is I know this is really tough to say, 1187 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: and it feels terrible saying it, but I just do 1188 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: not think we can allow, as much as we can 1189 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: can like this to stand. So I think what's happening here, 1190 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: and what you're pointing to also in terms of the 1191 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 1: Google Pay and the Apple Pay is when you put 1192 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: it specifically, my fear is not even necessarily that you know, 1193 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: everybody can't use Google pay and Apple Pay. It's we 1194 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: got to very clearly lay out here. And I think 1195 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: Biden is probably going to do this. From what I've 1196 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: read from the excerpts is hey, listen, if you stop, 1197 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: all this will come back the global financials. You're good, 1198 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: it's back. We can, we can. You know, there is 1199 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: a there is, just as an escalation ladder in war, 1200 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: there is a financial escalation ladder. You are vacuum bombing 1201 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: and using cluster munitions in cities. Just today I saw 1202 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: this horrible video of it's like the Kiev TV tower 1203 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: the comms getting completely blown out by a missile. There 1204 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: was another one a fuel dump I believe at an airfield, 1205 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: same thing I mean, launched from the Navy, and this 1206 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: is really catastrophic stuff also in being hit in terms 1207 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: of critical infrastructure bunkers for the Ukrainian military. You know, 1208 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: all of that is happening. My only thing I do 1209 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: believe Biden is actually doing this. It's funny and I 1210 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 1: always have to end up praising him somehow, even I 1211 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,439 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to. But I think having a level 1212 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: head whenever it comes to sanctions, being like, listen, these 1213 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: can all go back too. You can come back on 1214 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: this if you just stop what you're doing. Will that work? 1215 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Probably not? So, Yeah, it's on that front where it 1216 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: could have some success. But we'll see, we don't know. 1217 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say, Marshall, to your point, which I 1218 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: think is very compelling and very I think that obviously 1219 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of people agree with you that these 1220 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: actions in Russia by Russia cannot stand, and they should 1221 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: not stand, and they should pay a price. I care 1222 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: less about the price that they pay than what the 1223 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: end result is. And I do not see from our 1224 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: past history of levying devastating sanctions that are horrific for 1225 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: the public and waging this kind of financial warfare, economic warfare, 1226 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: which is what we're doing, I don't see that the 1227 01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: results have ended in peace and better ties between those countries. Instead, 1228 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: what I see as situations where then authoritarian dictators people 1229 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: like Putin can use those sanctions to say, your problem 1230 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: is it with me, it's with those people who are 1231 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: making your life miserable, and they have a point. And 1232 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: so ultimately, rather than providing that impetus to come back 1233 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: to the table, instead it hardens a population which to 1234 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: this point seems to be at least some significant chunk 1235 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 1: of it opposed to the war, and more or less 1236 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: on our side of we got to de escalate this thing. 1237 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: So that's the position I'm coming from. Is number one, 1238 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: I do it is a moral position. The Russian people 1239 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: haven't done anything wrong and they don't deserve to have 1240 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: their lives turned upside down. But number two, it is 1241 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: a strategic and tactical position of I don't see the 1242 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: track record of where this has actually worked, and it 1243 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: feels to me a lot more of just a political 1244 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: response to feed that sense of like we have to 1245 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,479 Speaker 1: make them pay, we have to assert ourselves in the world, 1246 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: we have to do something. Yeah, And I just want 1247 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: to follow up on that real quick, because I did 1248 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: a Realignment episode that's coming out tomorrow on the sanctions issue, 1249 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: and look, it lines up with what you're saying. At 1250 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day. The guests I have talks 1251 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: about how he wished and he's a hawk. He was like, look, 1252 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: let's be honest. This, these types of devastating sanctions would 1253 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: have been more effective as a deterrent before the invasion happened. 1254 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: So if the discord, his ideal state would have been 1255 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: putin if you go in, because once again the Bid 1256 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: administration said he was going to go in if you 1257 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 1: go in. This this this, this, and this would happen. 1258 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Clear you make it clearly, use them as a deterrent. 1259 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: To your point, once the actual invasion happens, you're you're 1260 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: You're most likely right, that's not going to change the 1261 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: actual behavior on the ground. But I think the point 1262 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: that's tough here is the bigger picture here is that 1263 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: we are trying to avoid a nuclear war. So from 1264 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: my perspective, the reason why the sanctions are justified is 1265 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: when we are going to were we talked about this way, 1266 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: We're not going to let Finland and Sweden into NATO. 1267 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: Given just the risk of that, I think we have 1268 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: to say we are doing something else. I just morally speaking, 1269 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: can tell Europeans that for your own protection you cannot 1270 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: join this alliance. Wellfou also doing something affirmative too, and 1271 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I think on that front. You know, it's interesting though, 1272 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 1: and this is also gets to efficacy and around balance. 1273 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,919 Speaker 1: You know, part of the reason we've been talking about 1274 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: this we're being led by the Europeans. We're not really 1275 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. Biden was against Swift, right, he 1276 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: was against taking rush of office. Swift He was for 1277 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: keeping the oil transactions. It was the rest of Europe 1278 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: which went to Germany and said you're gonna get with 1279 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: the program here, buddy. They're the ones who are dragging 1280 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: them in terms of the European Union and US by 1281 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: proxy into what is happening here. So that's another area 1282 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: of this entire conflict which I think is missing some analysis, 1283 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: which is that the Europeans themselves, who are asleep at 1284 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: the wheel for forty years and doing all times of 1285 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: idiotic stuff and both on defense spending, nuclear policy, and 1286 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: so much more, have now woken up and are panicking 1287 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 1: a literal mass panic in Poland Romania. You know, Crystal 1288 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I was reading luckily, by the way, thank god, the 1289 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: EU is not sending those fighter jets over to the 1290 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. Not out of the goodness of their heart, 1291 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 1: by the way, it's because or because they necessarily want 1292 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: to reduce it's because the Poles in the Romanians are like, 1293 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: oh no, we know it wasn't we need these We 1294 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: might need these jets, all right, We're not giving these 1295 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: things up period. Yeah. Well, and also some of them 1296 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: are literally broken down, like it's actually it's actually it's 1297 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: a beyond parody in that situation. The other thing is 1298 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: they were supposed to take off from Poland. Putin can 1299 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 1: interpret as attacking us, like we are not dealing with this. 1300 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: They're like, they're like, we're the ones getting invaded. Well, 1301 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: if you have pilots from Poland or another NATO country 1302 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 1: that are flying the planes in, and it's like even 1303 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: more it was. Yes, I think focusing on that European 1304 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: part is key, and I'm actually really interested from the 1305 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: excerpts so far of what we've been said. By the way, 1306 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: been told any second now that the president's going to 1307 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 1: walk in to the buildings, we might cut away and 1308 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: start describing that. That's what Crystal's best at giving experience 1309 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: there is there he's walking, Senator. The most fringe thing 1310 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: I heard is that some Congressmen get there like ten 1311 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: hours early because their constituents, because so they can shake 1312 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the present hand because their constituents, Look, I saw you 1313 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: on the TV. Yeah, whatever, especially the case with Obama 1314 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: and with I don't know if Biden has quite the same. 1315 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: It's a campaign, yeah, I mean, although I will say, 1316 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, he is still a less divisive figure than 1317 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 1: say Barack Obama was, Like, I mean, I happened to 1318 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: run in the two two part twenty ten. I was 1319 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: there on the ground. Was not a pretty site for 1320 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: me or anybody else of my sort of ideological leanings, 1321 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 1: but Barack Obama was totally Democrats were running away from 1322 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: that guy in anything approaching a swing district or a 1323 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: conservative district. And the the boogeymen for the Republicans are 1324 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: still Nancy Pelosi, which no one talks about. Everybody points 1325 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: to AOC who is another one, and the squad members. 1326 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: But Nancy Pelosi has been like a leaden weight around 1327 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: the neck of congressional candidates since the time of me 1328 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: running for Congress more than a decade ago. Now, so, yeah, 1329 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: here we go. He is now walking in there. Does 1330 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: he know where he is? My first question? Unknowable? Unknowable? 1331 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: He seems he seems like he's with it. He's greeting 1332 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: people there. I don't actually recognize any of those folks 1333 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 1: in particular, but I will say as far as the 1334 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 1: picture thing goes, you know, these members of Congress, especially 1335 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: the backbenchers, the angle to get the photo thing is like, 1336 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is a way that they can try 1337 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 1: to show their constituents that they're relevant, and so that's 1338 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: what it's really ultimately about they do have part of 1339 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: why it looks less Ukrainian flags there in the background, 1340 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: we can see their pistole, yep, and it looks more 1341 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: empty than usual because they still have I think some 1342 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: COVID seating assignment situation going on. And then the other 1343 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 1: thing that's noteworthy, and this is brand new, is there 1344 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: are no masks and that's a new he's not wearing tonight. 1345 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: That is a new policy there. So that's part of 1346 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 1: why the optics are really different. Did they give him 1347 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: his adderall? We're about to find out, Kyle. Yeah, I mean, 1348 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: maybe you should break down for us while we're taking 1349 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 1: this time. What you think the recommended cocktail would be 1350 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: to get him on the top of his game for this. 1351 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Let mee have a substantive point, though, which is that generally, 1352 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: and I do mean this, he does rise to the 1353 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: occasion generally meet these speeches. Remember the Burnie debates also, 1354 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: not the Afghan press conference. The speech, not the press conference. 1355 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: We did that weird thing where he put his elbows 1356 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: on the podium and he's like whispering, kind of like 1357 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: like the speech itself. You know, I mean, look, I 1358 01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 1: think his muscle memory, but you know, he's been doing 1359 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: for a long time at this time, like he actually 1360 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: is pretty good. Yeah, no, I rise you to the occasion. 1361 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I think he's about to take the Yeah, the podium there, 1362 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: So we're gonna cut away, guys. Will will be with 1363 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 1: everybody whenever after the show for an additional one hour 1364 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 1: live stream to break everything down right here, see, and 1365 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: then we will be back. So don't go anywhere, guys, 1366 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: check it out. Yep, all right, guys, here is the 1367 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 1: President of the United States, Joseph Robinett Biden, Joe Biden's 1368 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: first State of the Union. One of the things that 1369 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,560 Speaker 1: we were sort of speculating about going into this was 1370 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,879 Speaker 1: whether or not he would sort of throw the original 1371 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: speech out and totally rework it to reflect the events 1372 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, or whether he would just take the old 1373 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: speech with the whole laundry list of whatever that was 1374 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 1: going to be, and just stick it on with the 1375 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Ukraine piece. That's clearly the route that he went to, right. 1376 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: There was no very top and everything else. Yeah, there 1377 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,560 Speaker 1: was no reframing of the rest of the speech. It 1378 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 1: was we'll get the Ukraine piece out of the way, 1379 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: and then we'll go to effectively the laundry list of 1380 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,720 Speaker 1: what the agenda items are. Yeah, so on Ukraine, I 1381 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: mean these are obviously it's going to be the most 1382 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 1: talked about and in terms of ratings. Just so people understand, 1383 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: most people only watch the first fifteen minutes. Most people 1384 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: know that who are in the White House, and so 1385 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,559 Speaker 1: the reason being that they stick the most important parts 1386 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: that they want people to take away. So we pulled 1387 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: what we thought was the most important part of the 1388 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Ukraine speech. First, an unwavering commitment and a threat to Putin, 1389 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: which is, do not cross the NATO border. It is 1390 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: a trip wire and we will mount our full force 1391 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: and power defend every inch, just what Biden said. And 1392 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,759 Speaker 1: then another one trying to allay fears of a general 1393 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 1: nuclear war. Let's go ahe and take a listen to that. 1394 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Our forces are not engaged and will not engage in 1395 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: the conflict with Russian forces in Ukraine. Our force is 1396 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: not going to Europe to fight Ukraine, but to defend 1397 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,720 Speaker 1: our NATO allies the event that Putin the size to 1398 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 1: keep moving west. For that purpose, we have mobilized American 1399 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 1: ground forces, air squadrons, ship deployments to protect NATO countries, 1400 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 1: including Poland, Romania, lot for your Lithuania and Estonia. And 1401 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 1: as I've made crystal clear, the United States and our 1402 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: allies will defend every inch of territory that is NATO 1403 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: territory with the full force of our collective power, every 1404 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: single inch. But I know news about what's happening can 1405 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 1: seem alarming to all Americans, But I want you to 1406 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: know we're going to be okay. We're going to be okay. 1407 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: When the history of this era is written, Putin's Warren 1408 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: and Crane will have left Rush and weaker and the 1409 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 1: rest of the world stronger. Well, those are really important 1410 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: there in terms of to both the NATO commitment that's 1411 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,679 Speaker 1: being watched obviously in the Kremlin, and then the second 1412 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: one in terms of trying to allay the concerns there. 1413 01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, for all of us, I 1414 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: guess let's just start Kyle with you. What are some 1415 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 1: of the top recollections from you know, obviously Ukraine was 1416 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 1: the top news, but general breakdown of the speech I 1417 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 1: think clocked in around an hour and ten minutes at 1418 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: shorter side of a State of the Union. What were 1419 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 1: in general impressions here? So I got two things that 1420 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: I thought were very negative, and then one thing that 1421 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: I thought was positive. The negatives are he was stumbling 1422 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,520 Speaker 1: and bubbling a lot, and you know, I mean optics 1423 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: no taking away from that. It's hard to watch. There's 1424 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: just no denying that. Yeah, So that was a negative. 1425 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: The other negative thing was, especially in the second half 1426 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 1: of the speech, it was just a lot of standard 1427 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 1: politician fluff. I was getting so aggravated because he was 1428 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: going down basically his list of build Back Better agenda items, 1429 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: and he was saying, we gotta do this, we should 1430 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 1: do this, we should do that. You didn't get build 1431 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 1: Back Better passed, you didn't propose standalone bills on that, 1432 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: you didn't break out your Executive Order pen to do 1433 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: any of that. So it's just literally a virtue signal speech. 1434 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: That's all it is. Yeah, And so I was really frustrated. 1435 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: It's almost like the more you know about politics and 1436 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the more angry you get because you're like, I know 1437 01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: that this is all just fake and theater and it's 1438 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: not like we're actually going to do these things. But 1439 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 1: I will say the one positive thing is the speech was, 1440 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,719 Speaker 1: especially for the first half or so after the Ukraine stuff, 1441 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 1: it was very populist. So he did sort of lean 1442 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: in on the we got these new factories now opening 1443 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 1: up in ohioan and Michigan semiconductor factories and some other factories, 1444 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 1: and that you made the comment of saga as we 1445 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: were watching. That's exactly something Trump would it do, and 1446 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: that is smart politics. I love how he leaned into 1447 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 1: the buy America stuff. So the only positive stuff is 1448 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: it was a lot more populist than I thought it 1449 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 1: would be. But the negatives again stumbling and bubbling and 1450 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: just standard politician fluff. Yeah, well, we get to Marshall 1451 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 1: because it relates to your discussion there of how he 1452 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 1: did lean into some populist rhetoric around, you know, bringing 1453 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: jobs back home, made in America. He said, we want 1454 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: to see that made in America stamp. He talked about 1455 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: the pro Act is always something that I'm looking for. 1456 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,679 Speaker 1: He highlighted a union steel worker who was in the audience. 1457 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: He also made a sort of populous contrast between the 1458 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Democratic COVID relief plan and the Republican corporate tax cuts, 1459 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 1: which went largely to the one percent that didn't. That 1460 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 1: was not received well by the Republicans in the audience. 1461 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: But I actually think this may have been one of 1462 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 1: the best moments for Biden of the State of the 1463 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 1: Union speech. Let's take a listen to that. Unlike the 1464 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 1: two trillion dollar tax cut pass in the previous administration, 1465 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: the benefit of the top one percent of Americans the 1466 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 1: American Rescue Plan, the American Rescue Plan helped working people 1467 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 1: and left no one behind. That's a good contrast. It's 1468 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: one they should be making all the time of undeniable facts. Yes, 1469 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: and I mean it's just factually accurate. They should be 1470 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: making that sort of contrast in comparison all of the time. 1471 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 1: He did talk some about raising taxes on the corporations. 1472 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: There was less talk, you know, ahead of time, there 1473 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,679 Speaker 1: was some like always going to go hard on the defice. 1474 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: There's a little bit of deficit talk that I don't love, 1475 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: but he didn't go into that in too much detail. 1476 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: To me, the biggest problem is what are people really 1477 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: going to take away from this? The Ukraine part, I 1478 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: think you know that's going to stand alone. He made 1479 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: some news there in terms of the US and their 1480 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: allies are going to release sixty million barrels of oil 1481 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,600 Speaker 1: from strategic reserves. Also make in the news that the 1482 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,520 Speaker 1: US is going to ban Russian flights here in America. 1483 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 1: And you know, the strength of the message there, I 1484 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 1: think is, you know, kind of stands on its own. 1485 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Beyond that, the domestic agenda, it's a laundry list. There's 1486 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: no emphasis on what things he actually prioritizes to get done. 1487 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,599 Speaker 1: There's no plan to actually get any of these things done. 1488 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 1: And I loved how it like the three quarters of 1489 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the way through, Mark, He's like, and now this is 1490 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: the unity agenda. It's like, well, what was the rest 1491 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 1: of it? And that was like the disunity agenda. So 1492 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 1: I think to your point, Kyle, what is so frustrating 1493 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: about that is that, listen, it's a tough landscape. We 1494 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 1: get the realities of divide a government fifty senators. You 1495 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 1: got to get everybody on board. You got to persuade 1496 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion a buck is like fossil fuel donor and 1497 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: everybody else. But you have the power of the pen, 1498 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: and there are executive orders that you could issue and 1499 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: take power into your own hands. Those issues were somehow 1500 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 1: completely left off the table and acknowledge in terms of 1501 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,640 Speaker 1: things that he could actually do. The one exception to that, 1502 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: which I think is important significant touches on something that 1503 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: we were saying before going in this about calling out 1504 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: the corporations that are jacking up prices and contributing to inflation. 1505 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 1: He did talk about these shipping cartels. This is something 1506 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: David dan has been doing as per usual, fantastic reporting 1507 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: on Apparently the shipping industry, the ocean shipping industry is 1508 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,639 Speaker 1: now dominated by three alliances that cartels. Those three cartels 1509 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:48,600 Speaker 1: make up eighty percent of the global shipping industry. That 1510 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 1: is massively up from thirty percent as recently as twenty eleven. 1511 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: So Biden very clear on actions they were going to take. 1512 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,519 Speaker 1: That is an area where he has the ability to 1513 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: take more aggressive actions potentially have an impact of that part. 1514 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: I did like, Yeah, what did you think Marshall Warrior 1515 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: may take aways from the speech. Yeah, two things based 1516 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 1: on what Christo and Kyle said. So number one would 1517 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 1: be the Ukraine statement did exactly what it needed to say. 1518 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 1: It said, this is not a person who thinks he's 1519 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 1: in this weird manliness battle with Vladimir Putin. This is 1520 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: the person very much and this is hard like actually 1521 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: has his finger and I think on a personal level, 1522 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,600 Speaker 1: on the pulse of worthy American public broadly is we 1523 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 1: don't stand for this. We back our allies, we back Europe, 1524 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: we want the energy and depends these issues, but we 1525 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: are not going to commit. True if we are not 1526 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 1: going to escalate, there is not going to be a 1527 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: nuclear war. That is the number one thing he had 1528 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: to convey. And then two. And I was just thinking 1529 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: about this because Kyle, as you suggested, we watched a 1530 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: segment from Obama before this, and I was just thinking 1531 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,640 Speaker 1: the second half of the speech, the laundry list of 1532 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 1: policies we know aren't going to pass is just it's 1533 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: just exhaustated. And I think the Obama energy that I 1534 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: think could be translated into the executive orders you tours 1535 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: he can to is just look, we all know this 1536 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: is a fake list that we put up. It's not 1537 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: going to translated anything. I'm not really interested. I think 1538 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: most people aren't interested in hearing things that aren't going 1539 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,560 Speaker 1: to happen. Are pie in the sky. I would like 1540 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: him to say, here are these five issues I care about. 1541 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Here are five executive orders that that I'm signing, like 1542 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: you all said, first thing tomorrow morning, and that is 1543 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,679 Speaker 1: what my agenda is. I just I there's a huge 1544 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 1: opportunity for a politician to just get away from the 1545 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 1: kabuki theater. I think Obama saw the kabuki and was 1546 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: exhausted by it, and then you got condescending Obama, which 1547 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 1: wasn't productive. Yeah, but I think Biden, because Biden's not cynical, 1548 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Biden can't We'll heap on five different levels. He can't do, 1549 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: Professor Biden. But I actually think he would have an 1550 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to channel that a productive distas. That's actually a 1551 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 1: good thing that he can't do, Professor. But you know 1552 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 1: what I thought think of regarding your comments, Marshal, is 1553 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: when Andrew Yang made that comment on the debate stage 1554 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,720 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, are we doing it? We're all up 1555 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 1: here wearing our makeup like posturing and just kind of 1556 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 1: letting the viewers in on we know what's really going 1557 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: on here. That is I think that would be very 1558 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 1: refreshing for the American people. And we were talking as 1559 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,760 Speaker 1: you get to the end of the speech, and it's 1560 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: just like and LGBTQ, you know, and women's right, I mean, 1561 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 1: and gun rights, and I mean, listen, I'm on board 1562 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 1: with all of these things. I'm not saying I'm not 1563 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 1: but you also see that there's a clear checking off 1564 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: of I've got this constituency that needs to hear from me, 1565 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,640 Speaker 1: I've got that constituency that needs to hear from me. 1566 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: And so that's what kind of the latter half of 1567 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,879 Speaker 1: the speech involves, especially when you do have a president 1568 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 1: like Joe Biden who does not have a grand vision, 1569 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,679 Speaker 1: who is not able to seize the moment of what's 1570 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 1: happening with Russia and Ukraine and say, this is why 1571 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 1: we have to have this agenda at home, why I'm 1572 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 1: going to introduce to you know, whether it's a nuclear 1573 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: new deal or something that people can really lean into. 1574 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 1: He just you know, he doesn't have that vision. He's 1575 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 1: never had that vision. His political ideology is like a 1576 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: basket of sort of like anecdotes and truisms and whatever 1577 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham'll agree to, right, I'll try. I'll start with 1578 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,800 Speaker 1: the good part, and I do want to give good 1579 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 1: credit for this and the Intel factory. We spent time 1580 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,360 Speaker 1: here on Breaking Points. Is specifically made a point to 1581 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,600 Speaker 1: do a good news segment because this is one of 1582 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 1: the seminal most important pieces of American manufacturing that is 1583 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 1: coming here and is because of US government policy. Biden 1584 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 1: did exactly what any American president should do, including what 1585 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 1: Trump would have done. Touted it, also pointing to where 1586 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,759 Speaker 1: it is being built. We thought it was so important 1587 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: we went ahead and pulled the clip. So let's take 1588 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 1: a listen to that before we get into some of 1589 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 1: my analysis. The corporations have to compete, their profits go up, 1590 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 1: and your prices go up when they don't have to 1591 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,479 Speaker 1: compete small businesses and family farmers and ranchers. I need 1592 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: not tell some of our Republican friends from those states, 1593 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:49,560 Speaker 1: guess what you got? Four basic meat packing facilities. That's it. 1594 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: You play with them or you don't get to play 1595 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: at all, and you pay a hell of a lot more, 1596 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot more. But it's only four. 1597 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,600 Speaker 1: See what's happening with ocean carriers will being goods in 1598 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: and out of American During the pandemic, about half a 1599 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 1: dozen or less foreign owned companies raised prices by as 1600 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,839 Speaker 1: much as one thousand percent and made record profence. Tonight, 1601 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 1: I'm a nouncing a crackdown on those companies overcharging American 1602 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 1: businesses and consumers, folks, and as Wall Street firms take 1603 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 1: over more nursing homes, quality in those homes has gone 1604 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 1: down and costs have gone up. That ends in my 1605 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 1: watch apology. That one was actually about inflation, but you 1606 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 1: know that was also important. But here's what he said. 1607 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 1: He said, quote, this is if you travel twenty miles 1608 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: east of Columbus, Ohio, you're going to find a thousand 1609 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: empties acres of land. It won't look like much, but 1610 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 1: if you stop and look closer, you're going to see 1611 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 1: a field of dreams, the ground on which America's future 1612 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 1: will be built. This is where Intel, the American company 1613 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 1: that helps Silicon Valley, is going to build it's twenty 1614 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 1: billion dollars semiconductor megasite. And there was also a portion 1615 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: of the speech where he listed off again and again, 1616 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,840 Speaker 1: we need to make cars in America again. We make 1617 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,800 Speaker 1: semiconductors in America again. It's time to make things in 1618 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 1: America again. You could have taken that straight out of 1619 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: a Trump twenty sixteen speech, and that's vitally important. On 1620 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: the bad part, Look, there's no getting around it on 1621 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,719 Speaker 1: the delivery, and you know, we have to be sensitive 1622 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: in the way that we talk about it. But he 1623 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 1: had significant stumbling slurring of his words at certain points. 1624 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 1: And it's difficult to watch. It really is one of 1625 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,559 Speaker 1: those moments where you're watching an older person and it's 1626 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 1: just hard to see, especially when this is the President 1627 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: of the United States and you think, oh, man, they 1628 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: got three more years of this that he's got to 1629 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,680 Speaker 1: stay in his term. And I don't say this in 1630 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 1: a disrespectful manner, it's just simply a manner of observation. 1631 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: At times the speech was good. Otherwise we have, you know, 1632 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 1: interruptions of stuttering, of coughing. You're going to see that 1633 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: on Fox News all day long. So it's a significant 1634 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 1: part and can't downplay that. But from a policy perspective, 1635 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 1: here was my biggest problem, which is that on the 1636 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: energy side, and again I do believe this is where 1637 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 1: we have a potential bipartisan coalition. Didn't say the word 1638 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 1: nuclear once, not once did it appear in the speech. 1639 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 1: I think it's specifically because of the reason why everything 1640 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm holding here, this is the laundry list part the 1641 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: vast majority. It's written by these Democratic consultants who are like, well, 1642 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 1: the activist groups want this, you got to talk about 1643 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 1: gun control. Check it's a tick box state of the Union, right. 1644 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,599 Speaker 1: Everybody could have predicted this based upon constituencies in DC, 1645 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 1: and there is a very anti nuclear force here. There's 1646 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,560 Speaker 1: no real higher thinking within the speech in order to 1647 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,640 Speaker 1: try and unite everything around a bigger agenda and not 1648 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,560 Speaker 1: some the same old crap that everybody has heard a 1649 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 1: million times before. So look, I give praise for the 1650 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,519 Speaker 1: intel part of the speech. I thought that was important. 1651 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 1: On Ukraine, I do think you did a good job. 1652 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: But like I said on the delivery port that you 1653 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 1: can't take that away. It is just something you know, 1654 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 1: what poets have we done on the showst majority of 1655 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: the Americans think that Biden has you know, lost us Lise. 1656 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about in the pre show gallop 1657 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the number one issue for people's economy and the number 1658 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:25,840 Speaker 1: two is like government leadership. WI. Yes, so what you're 1659 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 1: saying there. One thing that struck me is, you know, 1660 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,240 Speaker 1: we were reading through the textas speech while he's delivering it, 1661 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: and it is very clear this was this one of 1662 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,519 Speaker 1: the excerpts that they released to the press ahead of 1663 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 1: time on inflation. This was supposed to be a line 1664 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 1: that he goes in for and that he nails, And 1665 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,879 Speaker 1: all the Democrats are like, yes, yeah, that was amazing, 1666 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: and he delivers it weekly and then he coughs, so 1667 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 1: it's I mean, those are the sort of things that look, 1668 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 1: it's a miss. That was supposed to be a moment, 1669 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 1: that was supposed to be a crescendo in the speech. 1670 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,639 Speaker 1: He's unable to do it. And you can say it's 1671 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 1: theatrics and it's political, you know, it's just optics and whatever. 1672 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: But listen, when people are looking at their president and 1673 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: wondering if this person is going to be able to 1674 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: avert nuclear war, these are the sort of signs and 1675 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,800 Speaker 1: signals that they may be considering in that context. I mean, 1676 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,760 Speaker 1: listen to me. Given what is happening overseas, there's a 1677 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,679 Speaker 1: very clear agenda that you could lay out that ties 1678 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,599 Speaker 1: in three things that he did to a small degree 1679 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 1: in this speech and make those the major focuses. We 1680 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 1: need to make things in America. I mean, beef that 1681 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: section up. Yes, he talked about it, Make that a 1682 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,560 Speaker 1: whole one whole theme of the speech. Number two, we 1683 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,560 Speaker 1: have to spend our dependence on fossil fuels. This is 1684 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,679 Speaker 1: making us vulnerable in terms of national security. It's causing 1685 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 1: you to have to pay more at the pump we 1686 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 1: need to state now clearly this is where we're going, 1687 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 1: and do more of the calling out the corporations over 1688 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 1: inflation that we saw there. When you have those pieces 1689 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,519 Speaker 1: as part of like a thousand other things, it all 1690 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,960 Speaker 1: gets lost. And none of that was connected back to 1691 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: what people are seeing day in and day out in 1692 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,280 Speaker 1: the news right now with regards to Russia and Ukraine. 1693 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,560 Speaker 1: I look, if he actually meant a lot of the 1694 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 1: stuff he said there, I'd be out here defending him. 1695 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Like if I thought he was fighting even a little 1696 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 1: bit for the stuff he listed as his agenda in 1697 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 1: like the second half of it, I'd be defending him. 1698 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: But we know he didn't. We know that they delinked 1699 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 1: the bills. We know only the week infrastructure bill got 1700 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,639 Speaker 1: passed and build back Better died, and Mansion went back 1701 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,560 Speaker 1: on his word and promilgipall and a lot of the 1702 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 1: progressives look stupid, except a handful who said I'm not 1703 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 1: voting for that thing. You guys aren't sticking by the 1704 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 1: original deal. But that's the thing is again, it all 1705 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 1: goes back. It's just a virtue signal speech. Now, I 1706 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 1: will say one more thing. Some of the mess ups 1707 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 1: that he had I tweeted about two of them. One 1708 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: of them he was talking about the issue with opioid 1709 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:53,759 Speaker 1: overdoses and fentanyl and he said, stop doctors prescribing treatments. 1710 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 1: That was weirds. And then he also when he's talking 1711 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,640 Speaker 1: about ukraine, at one point he said a pound of 1712 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: ukraine people. Yeah, And that was just like these things 1713 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: were sort of sprinkled. And then there was the coffee. 1714 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 1: You talk, there's a number of like very big costs. 1715 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the cough. What are you going to do? 1716 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 1: You can't help that? And he also was heckled at 1717 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 1: one point, or at least one point, I think Marjorie 1718 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,120 Speaker 1: Taylor Green said something about build that wall. They were channing, right, 1719 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 1: it sounded a bit like her what we're saying, I 1720 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 1: want to I want to build on something, which takes 1721 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,759 Speaker 1: it back to what we were saying before we actually 1722 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 1: watched it, which was this debate over vision and what 1723 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,759 Speaker 1: Biden could say and hearing what you were just saying, Kristal, 1724 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: what I realized the issue is it's not just that 1725 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't have his version of the new deal or 1726 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,360 Speaker 1: the FDR framing. It's that he and his team and 1727 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 1: I put this more on the team than him. They're 1728 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 1: not able to have events happen. Like once again, Biden 1729 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 1: did not cause the Ukraine crisis to happen. Biden did 1730 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: not cause inflation. That's super directly. There's this big, broader conversation. 1731 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 1: People are pissed at me for saying that, but it's true. 1732 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 1: But he needs to be as an effective politician, someone 1733 01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 1: who could take those events and tell a story, worry 1734 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 1: about those events, and translate them into an agenda. Mike, 1735 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 1: you were saying with energy or nuclear he should take 1736 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: this thing happened in Ukraine. We all feel this. This 1737 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: leads into the following agenda that reflects the world we're 1738 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 1: experienced to today, and that is what he can do. 1739 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he could be Fdr Noah and frankly 1740 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 1: like Obama tried to do. What was it? Oh, Obama 1741 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,760 Speaker 1: tried to do the New Foundation. I remember this back nine. 1742 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 1: They tried to coin their own version of New Deal. 1743 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't work, so that's not my expectation. But they 1744 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 1: could not tell a story. It was so disjointed. Yeah, well, 1745 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 1: I think I mean Rama Manuel famously not one to 1746 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 1: often quote Rama manual, but said, never let a good 1747 01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,680 Speaker 1: crisis go to waste h and he was right, or 1748 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: knows he's got an abundance of crises that he could 1749 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,559 Speaker 1: work with. Here, we're living through a huge one right now. 1750 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 1: I mean not only with the tail end of the pandemic, 1751 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,720 Speaker 1: but actually staring face to face with the potential of 1752 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,640 Speaker 1: the annihilation of the human race and through nuclear holocaust. 1753 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,640 Speaker 1: So listen that if there was ever a time to 1754 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 1: rally the American people around a set of goals that 1755 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,720 Speaker 1: would actually move us into the future, now is a 1756 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 1: moment when you could do that. There was one other 1757 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 1: small note I wanted to make, and then we've got 1758 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Marian Williamson on the line, who can join us here. 1759 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 1: There was a report from the Washington Post that an 1760 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 1: early draft of the speech included a call for a 1761 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: ban on stock trading, something that I think all of 1762 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 1: us have been looking at. We've covered it a lot 1763 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 1: on breaking points and what politicians have said about that. Now, Biden, 1764 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 1: to his credit, his entire time in the Senate, it 1765 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,000 Speaker 1: was his policy to not buy and trade stocks, so 1766 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 1: he has a lot of credibility on that issue. And 1767 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,680 Speaker 1: yet somehow, somewhere along the lines, that didn't make it 1768 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,920 Speaker 1: into the laundry list. All these other things which are 1769 01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 1: not going to happen are in the laundry list, and 1770 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 1: this issue, which has by partisan interest and by partisan 1771 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 1: legislation that could actually put potentially be passed, gets pulled 1772 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 1: from the speech. Yeah, so instead we got a piece 1773 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 1: on banning targeted ads for kids based on huckster Francis 1774 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: Hogan from the Facebook whistleblower. Oh cool. Yeah, I'm really 1775 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 1: glad that that portion made it in here on the 1776 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 1: last part. Look, obviously that's a totally ridiculous thing that 1777 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 1: it got taken out. I think we all know she 1778 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:29,680 Speaker 1: was sitting up there on the days, probably hard to 1779 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,560 Speaker 1: figure out. He couldn't He couldn't risk her ripping the 1780 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,040 Speaker 1: speech up if that were I'm joking, joking. I also 1781 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 1: I want to give a special shout out to John Stewart. 1782 01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Burn Pits did make it into the State of the 1783 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Union in terms of getting funding to those veterans. Never 1784 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,240 Speaker 1: would have happened without John Stewart, without his tireless activism 1785 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 1: on this and pressing the VA secretary making him look 1786 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: like a complete fool in that interview. Getting something mentioned 1787 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,480 Speaker 1: in the present State of the Union is a tremendous 1788 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 1: win whenever it comes to that level of activism. So, 1789 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,960 Speaker 1: John and four of many vets out there who suffered, 1790 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that it took what fifteen frickin years and 1791 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of activism, but it did finally at least 1792 01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,640 Speaker 1: make it in there. Now, let's hope. Let's make the 1793 01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 1: next stay of the union for the stock Trading Band. 1794 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,080 Speaker 1: We've got to get it in there. Yeah, because without it, 1795 01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it has a prayer. At least, Havana 1796 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: syndrome was not meant. That's right, that's right, Yeah, burn 1797 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,639 Speaker 1: Pits is much more of a noble cause in Havana syndrome. 1798 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 1: And one of those has congressional funding and not the 1799 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 1: other one. You can get. Remember how much you had 1800 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 1: to fight for the nine to eleven victims too, John 1801 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Stewart got the funding from the nine to eleven vieons. 1802 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:38,599 Speaker 1: That's many unbelieve. Yeah, all right, guys, let's go ahead 1803 01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 1: and bring in Mariyan Williamson. She of course, is a 1804 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 1: former presidential candidate. She also has a substat called Transform 1805 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 1: with Marian Williamson, where you can find many of her thoughts. 1806 01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,600 Speaker 1: I highly recommend that you do that great friend of 1807 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,880 Speaker 1: all of us. Here to see marian Good to see him, Marianne, 1808 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,679 Speaker 1: It's always good to see you. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, 1809 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 1: our pleasures. So just give us your high level thoughts. 1810 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: What were your big takeaways from the speech maybe sort 1811 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 1: of like highlights and low lights. Well, I think I 1812 01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: thought he was both better and worse than you guys did. 1813 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 1: I thought his energy was great, and I think, you know, 1814 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe because I'm older than you are, and a lot 1815 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 1: of Americans are and a lot of voting Americans are, 1816 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be quite so down on him because he slurs 1817 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 1: a word every once in a while. Also, there's a 1818 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,840 Speaker 1: lot of talk about disabilities in America, and we knew 1819 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 1: that he had a stutter as a child, So I 1820 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,879 Speaker 1: don't know. I think his energy actually was quite quite wonderful. 1821 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 1: I thought he had just the right tone about Ukraine. 1822 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:39,439 Speaker 1: And if this was the Joe Biden that was out 1823 01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 1: there every day, we would be in a far better 1824 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,439 Speaker 1: position for the twenty two for the midterms. I did 1825 01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 1: not feel he was sleepy tonight. I thought he was 1826 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 1: giving it his all and I like that. And now 1827 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,000 Speaker 1: what Kyle was saying about how many of those things 1828 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 1: that he said, were just performative at a certain point 1829 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: because they were things that are in the Build Back 1830 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,640 Speaker 1: Better Bill. He needs to be out there saying to 1831 01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 1: the American people, we will have those things. We would 1832 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,120 Speaker 1: have had them if they Built Back Better Bill had 1833 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,800 Speaker 1: been passed. This is why I need you to elect 1834 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 1: Democrats so that we will have them, which of course 1835 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,200 Speaker 1: he couldn't have done in tonight's speech too much. There 1836 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: were things he did not mention that I thought were 1837 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,080 Speaker 1: really sad. There was no mention of race in America. 1838 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,879 Speaker 1: There was no mention even though we talked about insulin 1839 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,360 Speaker 1: that was great, capping the prize on insulin, even though 1840 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 1: we talked about more ability to negotiate drug prices. This 1841 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 1: man could as once again as Kyle was saying, he 1842 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:35,559 Speaker 1: could call a national medical emergency and expand Medicare to everyone. 1843 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,760 Speaker 1: He could have used tonight to say I'm canceling the 1844 01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,719 Speaker 1: college loan debt. He could have said I'm using tonight 1845 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,679 Speaker 1: to declassify marijuana. So I thought that in many ways 1846 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,680 Speaker 1: he was better than I expected. But the man is not. 1847 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,280 Speaker 1: The things that are disappointing to me, not that I 1848 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,040 Speaker 1: would have expected it to be much different, even at 1849 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,759 Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, when he said what the American 1850 01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 1: Rescue Plan did. What the American Rescue Plan did was 1851 01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,920 Speaker 1: to give people a temporary fix for what has become 1852 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 1: a permanentized structural economic injustice in this country. And I 1853 01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,760 Speaker 1: don't think he lives in a world in his own 1854 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,559 Speaker 1: experience and in his own mind where he sees how 1855 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 1: structurally unjust the system has become. But in terms of 1856 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,560 Speaker 1: the worldview that he does have, where he's trying to 1857 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 1: fix it for some people, I actually think he did 1858 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 1: better tonight than I would have expected. That's interesting, Mary, 1859 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,800 Speaker 1: And what you've always done a very good job of, 1860 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,400 Speaker 1: especially during the campaign, was connecting, you know, Bailey politics 1861 01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 1: to a kind of a higher level of the way 1862 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 1: that people are feeling about the country. We led into 1863 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 1: the show talking about how a record number of Americans 1864 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 1: would rate the economy as poor, say that a record 1865 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 1: number say that the country is simply on the wrong track. 1866 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I personally didn't feel as if there was enough in 1867 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,920 Speaker 1: the speech in order to speak directly to that feeling. 1868 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 1: What was your assessment on that front, Well, you know, Otshier, 1869 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,919 Speaker 1: he lives in a world where he doesn't think America 1870 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 1: is on the wrong track. He is part of the ruling, elite, 1871 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 1: privileged classes of Americans America for whom America is okay. 1872 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,880 Speaker 1: And even though he says he understands, you know, like 1873 01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,760 Speaker 1: when he talked at the beginning about how, you know, 1874 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 1: when he was a kid and prices went up on 1875 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,759 Speaker 1: food and he really understood the pain of that, once again, 1876 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,240 Speaker 1: I think he does understand immediate instances of pain. What 1877 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't understand is the chronic economic despair, and that 1878 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,360 Speaker 1: has been a problem. And you know, he was vice 1879 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:34,120 Speaker 1: president of Obama. It's an elite class of Americans who 1880 01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 1: think we'll fix it for you here, we'll fix it 1881 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 1: for you there, but we don't want to challenge the 1882 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,960 Speaker 1: underlying forces that make the return of all this pain inevitable, 1883 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 1: because then we would be challenging all that corporate ownership 1884 01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:52,479 Speaker 1: of the basic basic tools of government. So if you 1885 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,560 Speaker 1: want fundamental change, you're not going to get it. But 1886 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 1: if you want more immediate change and that peripheral change, 1887 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,360 Speaker 1: I think he's trying his best, but he needs to 1888 01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,599 Speaker 1: go further. And if he doesn't go further, we also 1889 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,640 Speaker 1: won't have the House or the Senate. For the Democrats 1890 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, once again going back to what 1891 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,240 Speaker 1: Kyle said, that has to do with getting out your pen, 1892 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 1: mister President, and using those executive orders and doing what 1893 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 1: you can, including college loan debt. And I don't know 1894 01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,920 Speaker 1: how he expects to give a speech like tonight not 1895 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,040 Speaker 1: mention racial injustice and even go on and on about 1896 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 1: more funding for the police, nothing about even reforming the police, 1897 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,800 Speaker 1: and expect Black America to think you're there for them. 1898 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 1: You think just one. As much as we're excited about 1899 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,559 Speaker 1: Katanji Jackson, I don't think anybody thinks that that's really 1900 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 1: going to answer to all the underlying racial injustices in 1901 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,080 Speaker 1: this country that at this point are baked into the cake. 1902 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,960 Speaker 1: Marian something I'm curious about. As a former presidential candidate. 1903 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,760 Speaker 1: We were discussing this idea that Biden wasn't telling an 1904 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,160 Speaker 1: interconnected story about America in the context of Ukraine, COVID 1905 01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,559 Speaker 1: and just the roader economic issues. You're describing, what story, 1906 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 1: especially tonight, would you tell? Well, if you're talking about 1907 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,599 Speaker 1: what's happening in Ukraine, this is the story, as I said, 1908 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 1: the big story on all this, in addition to all 1909 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,679 Speaker 1: the things which I did feel here articulated very well. 1910 01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 1: We have been told for many, many years that we 1911 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about a nuclear war because of 1912 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:26,440 Speaker 1: the principle of mutually assured destruction. Well, guess what, everybody, 1913 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 1: That only works if you're talking with what they now 1914 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,560 Speaker 1: call rational actors. You get a nuclear bomb in the 1915 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,719 Speaker 1: hands of somebody that you don't think is that mentally stable, 1916 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,360 Speaker 1: and the entire principle goes down, goes down. The drain 1917 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,040 Speaker 1: on the other side of this, And I agree with 1918 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,320 Speaker 1: the President, we will get to the other side of this. 1919 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 1: And I hold I see Ukraine as he did, I 1920 01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,080 Speaker 1: hold Ukraine in my prayers as he did. I'm inspired 1921 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,960 Speaker 1: by Ukraine as he did. But we all know that 1922 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:57,360 Speaker 1: an entire post World War two era it's over. This 1923 01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,600 Speaker 1: whole thing is going to have to be ream and 1924 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 1: we are going to have to we are what's going 1925 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,800 Speaker 1: to happen. It's all going to be about nuclear bombs. Now. 1926 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,960 Speaker 1: Some people are actually going to use this experience to 1927 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: say more countries should have nuclear bombs. What we have 1928 01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,640 Speaker 1: to stand for is total nuclear non proliferation. When I 1929 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,920 Speaker 1: was a young person, we used to go to protest 1930 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,960 Speaker 1: BAM the bomb. We just now we gave up on 1931 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,599 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Well, this was a big wake up call. 1932 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 1: We have to reimagine what we want, both for our 1933 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,679 Speaker 1: democracy and on the other side of this war. We're 1934 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,120 Speaker 1: living at a time of too simultaneous phenomenon fall of 1935 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 1: Rome and this country is some things are falling apart 1936 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 1: on much deeper levels than this president even recognizes. But 1937 01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,240 Speaker 1: we're also living at a time when a new world 1938 01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,160 Speaker 1: is struggling to be born. So my answer to your 1939 01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,960 Speaker 1: question is that he is not articulating. He is not 1940 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 1: compelling the American imagination to imagine what could be on 1941 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,160 Speaker 1: the other side of this era. For that, we can't 1942 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,040 Speaker 1: look to Joe Biden. But for a State of the 1943 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,840 Speaker 1: Union speech, like I said, I got more from him 1944 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 1: than I expected. That's interesting. Yeah, just so everybody knows, 1945 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:10,640 Speaker 1: this is a random point here, but I had to 1946 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,599 Speaker 1: throw it out because I just saw it on Twitter. 1947 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,720 Speaker 1: What's trending right now is the word Iranian. And that's 1948 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 1: because Joe Biden accidentally said instead of saying the Ukrainian people, 1949 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 1: he said the Iranian people. You know, But you know 1950 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,320 Speaker 1: what I was thinking when he said that, Kyle, I 1951 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 1: thought he said the Uranian people once again, maybe because 1952 01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm older, give him a break. But you know what 1953 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm reminded of. Don't judge the president on a curve 1954 01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,599 Speaker 1: though personally. But here's the thing. You know what I'm 1955 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 1: reminded of, Marianne. I'm reminded of that very famous Howard 1956 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 1: Dean moment in two thousand and four when he ran 1957 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 1: for president and he was leading, and then he was 1958 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,040 Speaker 1: at a rally and awkwardly was like ah, and the 1959 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,719 Speaker 1: media just went to town on him for like weeks 1960 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 1: and then he just plummeted and he was out of it. 1961 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like the optics conversation, even though ultimately 1962 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,519 Speaker 1: it is substanceless to some degree, on the other hand, 1963 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,559 Speaker 1: it's like, well, what's the thing that's trending on Twitter 1964 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,080 Speaker 1: right now? So I feel like those optics, even though 1965 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,360 Speaker 1: it's a sad thing to say it, sort of in 1966 01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:16,640 Speaker 1: many ways, is going to define the speech. Well, you 1967 01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,080 Speaker 1: might be right, and I certainly remember. I remember being 1968 01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 1: in a hotel room watching television when Howard Dean did that, 1969 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,599 Speaker 1: and I knew why it's over for him. I don't 1970 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 1: remember that moment, but I would remind you that a 1971 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,439 Speaker 1: lot of older Americans vote and a lot of older 1972 01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,840 Speaker 1: Americans find sales not able to come out with words 1973 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,680 Speaker 1: quite the way, quite the way they used to. So 1974 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I and a lot of those 1975 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,560 Speaker 1: older Americans aren't necessarily on Twitter, and it's you know, 1976 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and also the disabilities issue. You know, I thought we 1977 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:52,200 Speaker 1: were supposed to be so sensitive these days. I have 1978 01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,720 Speaker 1: to say, though, Marion, I think that was kind of 1979 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,479 Speaker 1: invented the whole. I mean, he definitely had a setter 1980 01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,200 Speaker 1: and dealt with that, but then he was fine during 1981 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 1: the Obama years. It's only as he's gotten beyond the 1982 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,720 Speaker 1: years and gone by. And remember also, because that's why 1983 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,919 Speaker 1: I have to push back on this during the Democratic primary, 1984 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 1: this was fair game to discuss Andrew Mitchell on MSA 1985 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,360 Speaker 1: Andrey Mitchell remember Wullian Castro when after Morning Joe was 1986 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 1: talking and then suddenly once he was the nominee, I 1987 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh, we can't say anything about this anymore, 1988 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,479 Speaker 1: and it's really just a stutter, so don't worry about Listen, 1989 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,519 Speaker 1: it sucks, but it does matter that you have a 1990 01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,960 Speaker 1: present who is vigorous, who is in good health, who 1991 01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,680 Speaker 1: is up to the moment, and we don't get to 1992 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,880 Speaker 1: interact with him on a daily basis in the White 1993 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,400 Speaker 1: House to know what that looks like. We only get 1994 01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,679 Speaker 1: these little bits. And let me also say, he doesn't 1995 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,960 Speaker 1: make himself terribly available to the press in order to 1996 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,880 Speaker 1: have more of a body of you know, work to 1997 01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,040 Speaker 1: judge from here. So I do think the optics matter 1998 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,599 Speaker 1: is the most important thing, of course, not the substance here, 1999 01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,560 Speaker 1: especially when we're facing a nuclear war, is what is 2000 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,320 Speaker 1: most critical. And I hope that's what people take away 2001 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,840 Speaker 1: from it. I just if I may, I think you're 2002 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,640 Speaker 1: really right that it was a very legitimate conversation when 2003 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 1: he was running. It's just that tonight we were talking 2004 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,560 Speaker 1: about his performance and I don't know, I thought his 2005 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,920 Speaker 1: energy was quite strong. So, Marianne, one more thing I 2006 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,640 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. I'm just seeing this now. Representative 2007 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,000 Speaker 1: Lauren Bobert Apparently I didn't catch this at the time. 2008 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,599 Speaker 1: You guys can tell me if you did. But when 2009 01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:27,439 Speaker 1: Biden was talking about Afghanistan, he mentioned, you know, thirteen 2010 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,880 Speaker 1: American flag drape coffins coming back, and Lauren Bobert apparently 2011 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 1: screamed out, you put them in thirteen of them? When 2012 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 1: he mentioned the flag drape coffins coming back from Afghanistan, 2013 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,200 Speaker 1: so she sort of heckled him about the deaths of 2014 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 1: American soldiers. Yeah, well, you know it's pretty low right. Well, 2015 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,800 Speaker 1: everybody talked about the drawn strikes and the horrors that 2016 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,800 Speaker 1: happened with that excit. And believe me, I think the 2017 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 1: exit was done horribly. But I don't know what people 2018 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 1: thought we were doing there for the last twenty years 2019 01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,520 Speaker 1: if they mean people were dying and not just Americans, 2020 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,880 Speaker 1: afghan as well. So I don't think we could expect 2021 01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,880 Speaker 1: anymore from Lauren Bobert, and I think she was probably 2022 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 1: well behaved given what she's normally like. Well, she'll definitely 2023 01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:10,439 Speaker 1: raise a lot of money off of it, So I 2024 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:14,479 Speaker 1: guess everybody wins on this. I really appreciate you joining us, Marianne, 2025 01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:19,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you. Of course, I think 2026 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,920 Speaker 1: we also have z Jilani standing by, so go ahead 2027 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 1: and call me out on that control room if I'm incorrect. 2028 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 1: But we want to talk with him a little bit 2029 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,479 Speaker 1: about COVID, and that's something that, like I said at 2030 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,439 Speaker 1: the at the top, in our analysis, we're like, we 2031 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,800 Speaker 1: haven't really talked about COVID, and yet it did two 2032 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,759 Speaker 1: weeks ago was the most important issue in the entire country. 2033 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:44,519 Speaker 1: So Ze, I think we have a clip of this 2034 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 1: control room. I'm not sure exactly which one I'm calling for. 2035 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,880 Speaker 1: I think it's the one ending school shutdowns, and I 2036 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,719 Speaker 1: believe it is the last stot that I had listened 2037 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,920 Speaker 1: for all of you. It's great to see you, by 2038 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,720 Speaker 1: the way. Let's have a clip of this and then 2039 01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,080 Speaker 1: we're going to get your reaction. You're kind of the 2040 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:02,479 Speaker 1: shutdown of school and businesses. We have the tools we need. 2041 01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,320 Speaker 1: It's time for America to get back to work and 2042 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 1: fill our great downtowns again with people. People working from 2043 01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,559 Speaker 1: home can feel safe and begin to return to their offices. 2044 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 1: We're doing that here in the federal government. The vast 2045 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,280 Speaker 1: majority of federal workers will once again work in person. 2046 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 1: Our schools are open. Let's keep it that way. Our 2047 01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:38,920 Speaker 1: kids need to be in school. The seventy five per 2048 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 1: seal of seventy five percent of adult Americans fully vaccinated, 2049 01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 1: and hospitalizations down by seventy seven percent. Most Americans can 2050 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,760 Speaker 1: remove their mass and stay in the classroom and move 2051 01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,320 Speaker 1: forward safely. That's a significant pivot there that we have 2052 01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:58,920 Speaker 1: zed on the politics. Nobody in the chamber, where at 2053 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,559 Speaker 1: least not that I could see wearing masks. I mean, 2054 01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, things have changed completely overnight. You've been tracking 2055 01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot of this with the schools and whatnot. What 2056 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,040 Speaker 1: do you make of this portion of the speech? Yeah, 2057 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think the Democrats have collectively decided, at 2058 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,559 Speaker 1: least at the national level, that they're going to strike 2059 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 1: a more moderate tone on COVID nineteen. You'll see this 2060 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:22,120 Speaker 1: in his text. He says that COVID nineteen need no 2061 01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:25,320 Speaker 1: longer control our lives, right, and then he quickly also 2062 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,040 Speaker 1: covers the other flank by saying, I know some are 2063 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,639 Speaker 1: talking about living with COVID nineteen. I say that we'll 2064 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,160 Speaker 1: never just accept living with COVID nineteen. So he's trying 2065 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,160 Speaker 1: to kind of cover both sides of it, but he's 2066 01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:38,160 Speaker 1: shifting more towards what's been the Republican position. Right. If 2067 01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 1: you're living in most of Florida, you're saying, what are 2068 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:41,800 Speaker 1: you talking about? We've been doing that for six months. 2069 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 1: I've been doing this since last summer. But if you're 2070 01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,000 Speaker 1: living in let's say New York or Connecticut, New Jersey, 2071 01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,600 Speaker 1: Virginia now, and as having a change is these are 2072 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,599 Speaker 1: new things to you. Right to be able to send 2073 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,240 Speaker 1: your children to school without wearing masks, to be able 2074 01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,439 Speaker 1: to in some parts of the country go to a 2075 01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,840 Speaker 1: restaurant or go to a bar without a vaccine passport. 2076 01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 1: A lot of these restrictions are sort of collectively being 2077 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,320 Speaker 1: taken down now, I think over the past two or 2078 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,759 Speaker 1: three weeks, and I think that is a political pivot 2079 01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 1: on the Democrats side. Right, the virus didn't go anywhere, 2080 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,920 Speaker 1: It hasn't necessarily changed in lethality or informed. But I 2081 01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 1: think the Democrats have acknowledged that a lot of the 2082 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 1: country does want to get to somewhat more of a 2083 01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,439 Speaker 1: normal position on this. I think that's a lot of 2084 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,400 Speaker 1: why Joe Biden was elected in the first place. Right, 2085 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,920 Speaker 1: the last guy was introducing a lot of chaos in 2086 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,439 Speaker 1: their lives in many different parts of society, and I 2087 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 1: think that part of returning to that normalcy is getting 2088 01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: people to a position in a place where they don't 2089 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,559 Speaker 1: have to feel deathly afraid of a virus all the time, 2090 01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,839 Speaker 1: as you take some precautions, but you know their children 2091 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,040 Speaker 1: don't have You don't have to send t year old 2092 01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,640 Speaker 1: kids into classrooms wearing masks where they don't even know 2093 01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,640 Speaker 1: what the faces of their of their their teacher looks like, 2094 01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:52,840 Speaker 1: or the or the other kids. And I think the 2095 01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,320 Speaker 1: Democrats were kind of dragkicking and screaming to that position. 2096 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,759 Speaker 1: A month ago in Virginia, they were all accusing Glenn Youngkin, 2097 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 1: the Republican governor, of also some nasty things about how 2098 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't care about the welfare children or vulnerable people. 2099 01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,320 Speaker 1: But I live in northern Virginia and I can tell 2100 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,599 Speaker 1: you during this entire time, I was seeing packed restaurants 2101 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,320 Speaker 1: and bars with massless people. So I think part of 2102 01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:13,840 Speaker 1: this was just political. I think there have been a 2103 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,600 Speaker 1: political culture created around a lot of these restrictions. And 2104 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,600 Speaker 1: now that Democrats are moving into a position where I 2105 01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,600 Speaker 1: think they're going to disarm their side, right, They're going 2106 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:22,679 Speaker 1: to say, hey, look we can come to a reasonable 2107 01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,559 Speaker 1: compromise on this. And you know, it's probably a wise 2108 01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,160 Speaker 1: move of their part that maybe they should have done 2109 01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,120 Speaker 1: it six months ago. Probably would have been politically beneficial 2110 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:32,560 Speaker 1: for them to do it, and I don't think it 2111 01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:34,479 Speaker 1: would have made much of a public health difference either, 2112 01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,040 Speaker 1: given those sure of the virus. But so zed, let 2113 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,360 Speaker 1: me ask you this, because to what do you attribute 2114 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 1: that change? Because I just looked up the numbers. Now 2115 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,880 Speaker 1: there's a Washington Post pole that came out this is 2116 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:50,000 Speaker 1: February twenty is to twenty fourth Americans prioritized controlling the 2117 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,680 Speaker 1: spread of the virus more than ending restrictions. Fifty eight 2118 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,640 Speaker 1: percent of US adults would prefer controlling the virus to 2119 01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,880 Speaker 1: having no restrictions. And then another poll, this was in 2120 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,559 Speaker 1: early February, fifty six percent of Americans want indoor mask 2121 01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:06,120 Speaker 1: mandates to continue. So, like, to what do we attribute 2122 01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:08,840 Speaker 1: this change in tone among the Democrats? Because you know, 2123 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,519 Speaker 1: at the number of daily COVID deaths, if you take 2124 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,320 Speaker 1: a look at it at the moment, it is one 2125 01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty nine. That was you know, the 2126 01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,240 Speaker 1: last day we have, So we still have a high 2127 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,599 Speaker 1: death rate, we still have we have the American people 2128 01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,680 Speaker 1: still slightly leaning more in favor of some degree of restrictions. 2129 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,360 Speaker 1: To what do you attribute the change among the Democrats? 2130 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 1: Because I agree with you that that change is there. Yeah, 2131 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think if you look 2132 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:33,439 Speaker 1: at a lot of them we're pulling on a more 2133 01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,679 Speaker 1: fine grained platform, you'll still find a lot of support 2134 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,320 Speaker 1: for some restrictions, not necessarily the level of restrictions we 2135 01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,880 Speaker 1: had i'd say in twenty twenty, but there is a 2136 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of support I think continued masking in some areas. 2137 01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't think the vaccine mandates have as much support 2138 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 1: as they have, particularly a Supreme Court decision. But I 2139 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,120 Speaker 1: think part of what attributes the change is actually like 2140 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:57,519 Speaker 1: election results. Right So the Virginia gubern inatorial election, you 2141 01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,880 Speaker 1: saw a state where there is you know, it went 2142 01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,760 Speaker 1: ten points for Joe Biden, and then the Republican picks 2143 01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,880 Speaker 1: it off by a couple points. I think that scares 2144 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the Democrats because they understand that even 2145 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,720 Speaker 1: if the polling is still fifty to fifty or even 2146 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more towards the restrictions, that the side 2147 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,080 Speaker 1: that's against the restrictions is very highly motivated right now. 2148 01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,040 Speaker 1: And I imagine that the side against the restrictions is 2149 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:20,040 Speaker 1: picking off all these wins with Democratic elected officials. That's 2150 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,479 Speaker 1: going to change the Democratic base's point of view and 2151 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 1: all of these restrictions as well. And so I think 2152 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,439 Speaker 1: they're kind of seeing the writing on the wall in 2153 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,920 Speaker 1: terms of how that's going for a lot of the country. 2154 01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,120 Speaker 1: It was very notable to me that even after this 2155 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,600 Speaker 1: high pitched battle in Virginia over school mask mandates, the 2156 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:41,160 Speaker 1: day after Virginia dropped its school mask mandates, that's when 2157 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,160 Speaker 1: New York removed their state wide school wide state mass 2158 01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,120 Speaker 1: mandate for the children's schools. So I imagine that this 2159 01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,640 Speaker 1: issue is going to become depolarized very quickly now, and 2160 01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll continue to see waves of COVID. The 2161 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,240 Speaker 1: virus is not going anywhere, and as you mentioned, quite 2162 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,040 Speaker 1: a few people are still passing away from the virus, 2163 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,280 Speaker 1: although those are still mostly elderly people who chose not 2164 01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,040 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, and many of them have underlying health conditions. 2165 01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,960 Speaker 1: And so I think you know, something notable to point 2166 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,639 Speaker 1: out in the substance of the policy of this issue 2167 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 1: is that Mexico today is doing a better job as 2168 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,880 Speaker 1: a percentage of people who they're boosting than the United States, 2169 01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 1: is right, What does that tell you, Well, we're fighting 2170 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,400 Speaker 1: over masking two year olds and almost no two year 2171 01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,600 Speaker 1: olds in the United States have even been gotten a 2172 01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 1: bad cold from COVID, let alone perished. We're doing a 2173 01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,320 Speaker 1: terrible job, I think in terms of again getting those 2174 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,840 Speaker 1: vulnerable elderly people underlying health conditions vaccinated, and you only 2175 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 1: really do that with social trust, right. We tried mandate. 2176 01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:37,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Court didn't allow it. We tried fighting all sorts 2177 01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,360 Speaker 1: of culture wars over COVID. End of the day, we 2178 01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,280 Speaker 1: have to build trust about this. It's a virus. Who 2179 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 1: doesn't care whether they're a Democrat or a Republican. Vaccines 2180 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,160 Speaker 1: aren't perfect, but they do offer quite a bit of protection, folks, 2181 01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,559 Speaker 1: And I think rebuilding that trust and moving forward together 2182 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,599 Speaker 1: is probably better than fighting some of the more pointless 2183 01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,080 Speaker 1: fights about some of the more pointless restrictions. And I 2184 01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,880 Speaker 1: think the Democrats are trying to get well said. Speak 2185 01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 1: of speaking of pointless fights, let's talk about the culture 2186 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:01,960 Speaker 1: war for a second. If a good way is summing 2187 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,320 Speaker 1: up what seems to have happened tonight with your comments 2188 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 1: on COVID, Biden's comments on COVID, and then the reference 2189 01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,800 Speaker 1: to not defunding the police, it seems like Biden is 2190 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:15,840 Speaker 1: trying to do a culture war reset, just completely putting 2191 01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:20,360 Speaker 1: aside a lot of the h a lot of the 2192 01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,960 Speaker 1: discourse there for the past two years oftentimes that Biden 2193 01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,000 Speaker 1: wasn't particularly engaged with. He wasn't the defund the police candidate. 2194 01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:29,000 Speaker 1: You just comment on this pivot and whether or not 2195 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,080 Speaker 1: this is a pivot that will address broader concerns people 2196 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,679 Speaker 1: would have go through the Democratic Party, moderate candidates, et cetera, 2197 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,640 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I think it's a 2198 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,560 Speaker 1: challenge because the Democratic Party in the United States, we 2199 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,680 Speaker 1: have basically two major party coalitions here and we're not 2200 01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,760 Speaker 1: a proportional representation country. I think you make a good 2201 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 1: case that we should be, but we're not. So the 2202 01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,600 Speaker 1: Democratic Party has a wide variety of us right. I 2203 01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 1: don't think Biden's position personally has ever been towards defunding 2204 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,160 Speaker 1: the police, for instance, But everywhere in America that did 2205 01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,160 Speaker 1: do something of that extent, it is a place that's 2206 01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,280 Speaker 1: controlled by the Democratic Party, right, like Austin. I made 2207 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,800 Speaker 1: a short documentary for Fox News about their defund the 2208 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,960 Speaker 1: police effort and a referendum they had afterwards. Some other 2209 01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,360 Speaker 1: major cities have done that, and I think that creates 2210 01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 1: a tension between Biden's positions and what's actually happening in 2211 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,880 Speaker 1: his party. And something you'll note is that when even 2212 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,559 Speaker 1: when Biden does this, he never actually says that, like, Okay, 2213 01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,719 Speaker 1: the mayor of Portland needs to like actually support police 2214 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 1: and get people arrested who are like starting a riot 2215 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,639 Speaker 1: every single night for several months. Right, Or the city 2216 01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,120 Speaker 1: of Austin was wrong to cut a third of their 2217 01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,360 Speaker 1: police budget. Right. He never gets into the more internescing 2218 01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,080 Speaker 1: fights with his party. He kind of downplaced some of 2219 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 1: their slogans. So I think it's not entirely unfair when 2220 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,800 Speaker 1: the Republicans say, hey, you guys, keep doing it. You're 2221 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,040 Speaker 1: not actually like getting into a lot of these situations 2222 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,519 Speaker 1: and fixing the problem. At the same time, it is 2223 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:50,040 Speaker 1: somewhat unfair when Republicans would portray Biden himself as holding 2224 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,640 Speaker 1: some of these positions that he doesn't actually hold. But 2225 01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,840 Speaker 1: because of the coalitional nature of our politics, it's a 2226 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,600 Speaker 1: push and pull, right. I don't think Biden wants to 2227 01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,160 Speaker 1: directly face off with some of the Democrats and his 2228 01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:00,920 Speaker 1: party who do want some of these ideas and have 2229 01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,360 Speaker 1: had some success implementing them in some places. Given that 2230 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,040 Speaker 1: police is largely a local function, policing isn't really controlled 2231 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:09,840 Speaker 1: by the federal government to begin with, so it's not 2232 01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,800 Speaker 1: really a presidential issue, but to because the Americans are 2233 01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:14,920 Speaker 1: concerned about it, is it is something they should they 2234 01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,439 Speaker 1: chuck to their local officials about. Yeah. Yeah, I mean 2235 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,599 Speaker 1: on the national defunding the police polls at eighteen percent, 2236 01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 1: and on the national level, I think there's only one 2237 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,519 Speaker 1: Democratic politician who actually ran on it, Corey Bush, and 2238 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,439 Speaker 1: she won, so it's not and she does exactly sure 2239 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:32,720 Speaker 1: where they were they had issues to say the least. 2240 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. But I feel like Joe 2241 01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,120 Speaker 1: Biden is the reason why he puts a line like 2242 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:40,960 Speaker 1: that in there. He doesn't support defund the police, of course, 2243 01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 1: but the reason he puts a line like that in 2244 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,519 Speaker 1: there is because his staffers assure him, hey, man, the 2245 01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,760 Speaker 1: left is the reason why you guys are losing and 2246 01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,200 Speaker 1: the reason why Democrats whenever you do lose, just blame 2247 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:50,600 Speaker 1: the left. And so he puts that in there to 2248 01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,799 Speaker 1: be like, I'm going to tamp down on the crazies 2249 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,240 Speaker 1: in my own party. I think that's why he added 2250 01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,560 Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, well, and that kind of details with 2251 01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,680 Speaker 1: what I wanted to ask you about Z and the 2252 01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,240 Speaker 1: point that I wanted to make, because listen, I mean, 2253 01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,479 Speaker 1: the battles over defund the police, I'm not going to 2254 01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,760 Speaker 1: say that they haven't mattered electorally. But I think the 2255 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,160 Speaker 1: much bigger problem for Democrats is that you have seventy 2256 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:09,680 Speaker 1: percent of the country that's say and we're on the 2257 01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,600 Speaker 1: wrong track, that says the economy is going in the 2258 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,840 Speaker 1: wrong direction. And so, you know, I think we all 2259 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,920 Speaker 1: sort of agree that Democrats are looking like they're in 2260 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,240 Speaker 1: very difficult shape for the midterms. But what do you 2261 01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,360 Speaker 1: think Biden could have done in this speech to help 2262 01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,479 Speaker 1: to reset how Americans are, you know, their expectations for 2263 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 1: the economy. I don't think you can reset how they 2264 01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,640 Speaker 1: feel about what's happening in their lives with their expectations 2265 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,160 Speaker 1: for what he might do and why they it might 2266 01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,200 Speaker 1: be worth them re electing Democrats. And do you think 2267 01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,120 Speaker 1: that he accomplished any of that tonight. Yeah, I mean 2268 01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,320 Speaker 1: it's a good question because it's a really like it's 2269 01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 1: a tall order for a single speech, right, because I 2270 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of like macro economic factors, particularly with 2271 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,559 Speaker 1: inflation and what's happening with the supply chain crisis, are 2272 01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,760 Speaker 1: what's leading to most of I think Biden's woes and 2273 01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,240 Speaker 1: worries in terms of him being viewed as a competent 2274 01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:00,919 Speaker 1: leader or a leader who can actually address everyday problems, 2275 01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:03,800 Speaker 1: so it's really difficult to do in a speech. I 2276 01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,240 Speaker 1: think that he did his best in many ways, and 2277 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:10,080 Speaker 1: that he was highlighting domestic policy achievements, domestic policy proposals 2278 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,840 Speaker 1: that are actually achievable, even though you know, Bill beck 2279 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,720 Speaker 1: Better obviously had all sorts of problems and has sort 2280 01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:19,080 Speaker 1: of stalled out. But I think that the main thing 2281 01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,200 Speaker 1: I would have done, maybe a little bit differently than him, is, 2282 01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think at one point he said something like, 2283 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, let's stop seeing each other as enemy and 2284 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,560 Speaker 1: start seeing each other who we are, fellow Americans, and 2285 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,920 Speaker 1: he you know, pivots to COVID nineteen. You know, I 2286 01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,280 Speaker 1: think taking a little bit of responsibility in some of 2287 01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:36,240 Speaker 1: these issues for his party would have gone a long 2288 01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:40,760 Speaker 1: way in terms of building rebuilding credibility with people like independents, because, 2289 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,920 Speaker 1: let's be honest, like the Democrats have basically said that 2290 01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 1: anyone in America who believed in doing the things on 2291 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,000 Speaker 1: COVID that they're doing now wants to kill your grandmother, right. 2292 01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,720 Speaker 1: They demonize them to a very extreme extent, and I 2293 01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,640 Speaker 1: think Biden, unfortunately was part of that when he says 2294 01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,800 Speaker 1: things like, you know, Georgia's impact, you know, enacting Jim 2295 01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:01,800 Speaker 1: cro two point zero and so on and so forth, 2296 01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:03,920 Speaker 1: if he really wants to shut down the culture war, 2297 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,200 Speaker 1: which I would agree is the most divisive thing in 2298 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,200 Speaker 1: the country, and I think it really drags Democrats down. 2299 01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:11,320 Speaker 1: It does actually matter if you take a little bit 2300 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:12,920 Speaker 1: of responsibility and say, hey, my party did go a 2301 01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,840 Speaker 1: little too far on some of these things. And also 2302 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,400 Speaker 1: I think he should take he should have taken some 2303 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:20,520 Speaker 1: responsibility on just being very reactive to a lot of crises. Right. 2304 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,920 Speaker 1: If you all remember when inflation really started hitting Americans, 2305 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,280 Speaker 1: they kept saying that it was transitory, that it would 2306 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 1: go away quickly, that it wasn't a structural problem. And 2307 01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:31,800 Speaker 1: they did the same thing with the crisis of the 2308 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,800 Speaker 1: border with Afghanistan, and I think they were doing a 2309 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,480 Speaker 1: lot of pr and spinning rather than addressing it. Honestly, 2310 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:38,400 Speaker 1: Ukraine was probably the first time where they took a 2311 01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,480 Speaker 1: crisis head on and they actually predicted what was happening 2312 01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,560 Speaker 1: before it would happen, and we're very transparent about it. 2313 01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,080 Speaker 1: I think that was a good that's a good model 2314 01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:47,280 Speaker 1: for them going forward, because I think it's one thing 2315 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,320 Speaker 1: that has some nice lines in the speech, but at 2316 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:50,920 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to take accountability 2317 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,160 Speaker 1: and responsibility for some of the missteps you've made. And 2318 01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,400 Speaker 1: I didn't really see that as much from from Joe Biden. 2319 01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, Americans have been watching this story the entire time. 2320 01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:02,840 Speaker 1: They know that the administration was not on the ball 2321 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,400 Speaker 1: when it came to a lot of these problems, and 2322 01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of, I think, particularly difficulties getting 2323 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,960 Speaker 1: things through Congress, and not entirely Joe Biden's fault, but 2324 01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,800 Speaker 1: they exist, and I think putting a happy face on 2325 01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,920 Speaker 1: it only goes so far right. Sometimes you do have 2326 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,120 Speaker 1: to actually level with people, and maybe they didn't do 2327 01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,200 Speaker 1: that as much. So, yeah, I think that's a good point. 2328 01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,400 Speaker 1: They all consider that to be a risk, right to 2329 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,680 Speaker 1: be honest about, hey, we fell short on this or 2330 01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,440 Speaker 1: that thing. Certainly Trump was not out there admitting any mistake. 2331 01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,080 Speaker 1: They want to project. They want to talk about, here's 2332 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,840 Speaker 1: what the winds were, the infrastructure deal. We're you know, 2333 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,440 Speaker 1: vaccinating people and the rescue plan and all of that. 2334 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:38,480 Speaker 1: But it actually, you know, it connects with something we 2335 01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:42,520 Speaker 1: were saying earlier about the American people do want someone 2336 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,840 Speaker 1: who's going to sort of step back from the theatrics 2337 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,760 Speaker 1: and say the thing that we all know about, like, 2338 01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, instead of this laundry list, I'm going to 2339 01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:51,720 Speaker 1: actually level with you. I do think that that would 2340 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:53,920 Speaker 1: land with people. That is always great to have your thoughts. 2341 01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. Thanks you appreciate it. Man to you. 2342 01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,880 Speaker 1: And you know, one thing on the culture war point 2343 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,280 Speaker 1: that is sort of one of my grand theories of politics, 2344 01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:05,840 Speaker 1: such as they are, is that there's no escape in 2345 01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,840 Speaker 1: the culture war unless you deliver for people materially. Because 2346 01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:12,720 Speaker 1: if people's conception of government just collapses down to like, 2347 01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,400 Speaker 1: who's signaling the right way for my team, then all 2348 01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,040 Speaker 1: you're going to get is culture war. So you know, 2349 01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,920 Speaker 1: he could have his Sister Soldia moment and say I 2350 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,960 Speaker 1: hate defund the police all day long, but culture war 2351 01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,960 Speaker 1: is still going to really dominate our politics as long 2352 01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 1: as he is unable to enact and stick to an 2353 01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:35,400 Speaker 1: agenda that actually delivers material for people materially, for people 2354 01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,480 Speaker 1: in a way that they can sense. And I don't 2355 01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:39,640 Speaker 1: think that's on Biden at all. I mean, he is 2356 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:43,200 Speaker 1: the least woke person on the planet, Like, there's no 2357 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,760 Speaker 1: if he comments on the culture war even to just 2358 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 1: denounce the culture war. So like a meta conversation on 2359 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,280 Speaker 1: the culture war that is distracting from more lines on 2360 01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:53,960 Speaker 1: a fifteen dollars he's always like ten seconds away from 2361 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,280 Speaker 1: an ethnic slur. Yeah, exactly, So I don't understand, like 2362 01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,240 Speaker 1: that's I don't get that criticism of them, Marte. A 2363 01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,600 Speaker 1: bit of pushback on that though, which is that nine 2364 01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,400 Speaker 1: times out of ten out agree with what you're saying. 2365 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,360 Speaker 1: So if it's the Bush era, I would agree with that. 2366 01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,400 Speaker 1: But right now there are some really interesting debates. Once again, 2367 01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:13,960 Speaker 1: you guys did a bunch of stuff on Joe Rogan 2368 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,560 Speaker 1: and censorship. There there are some really non material culture 2369 01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,680 Speaker 1: war issues that are up for debate right now. That's 2370 01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,760 Speaker 1: a demopher to think, but that's that's culture war talked 2371 01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:24,400 Speaker 1: to that culture war. I consider it, like you know, 2372 01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:27,360 Speaker 1: that's a literally a constitutional issue in many respects. We 2373 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,200 Speaker 1: would hope so, Kyle, I think, but I don't. We 2374 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:33,280 Speaker 1: should have we can have a very long conversation about 2375 01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,520 Speaker 1: what culture war actually is. I tend to think of 2376 01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 1: culture war as being these sort of signaling issues that 2377 01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,120 Speaker 1: are more about just like you know, signaling to your 2378 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,440 Speaker 1: team that I am with you on this or that 2379 01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,120 Speaker 1: thing that don't actually have a lot of impact on 2380 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,720 Speaker 1: the direction of the country of people's lives. I would 2381 01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,240 Speaker 1: agree with Kyle that, you know, free speech issues are 2382 01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:57,000 Speaker 1: profoundly significant beyond just like a cultural signaling issue, even 2383 01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:58,880 Speaker 1: though a lot of the people who engage in those 2384 01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:01,200 Speaker 1: debates are doing so in a way that's just about 2385 01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,680 Speaker 1: the signaling and not about some stances. Yeah, and ultimately 2386 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,240 Speaker 1: that's always the biggest problem whenever it comes to this. Okay, 2387 01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:13,400 Speaker 1: it's nearing everybody's bedtime here speaking time. Woop is not 2388 01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,400 Speaker 1: going to be happy with me. I want to say 2389 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,800 Speaker 1: a special thank you both to Kyle and Marshall, and 2390 01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,240 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do with this at the top, but 2391 01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,680 Speaker 1: Kyle is going to be posting clips on the Breaking 2392 01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,919 Speaker 1: Points Channel. Thank you very much to everybody for supporting 2393 01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,800 Speaker 1: our work here. Marshall, all of them, finish his drink. 2394 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,560 Speaker 1: He's going to be doing some great news interviews for us, 2395 01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,920 Speaker 1: which are also going to be appearing on the Breaking 2396 01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,480 Speaker 1: Points Channel. I tease those little partnerships, So we've got 2397 01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:39,000 Speaker 1: six active partnerships now on the Breaking Points Channel. Thank 2398 01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,040 Speaker 1: you to everybody for the super chats for all of 2399 01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,120 Speaker 1: our premium members who help support this. This stuff costs 2400 01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,080 Speaker 1: a lot of money in order to put this stuff. 2401 01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:48,840 Speaker 1: We've got a full staff out there in the control 2402 01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:52,040 Speaker 1: room and more shouts possible. 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