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Speaker 2: I think the older I get and the more I

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Speaker 2: fix cars, the more I lose my understanding of people

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Speaker 2: and what they're thinking. I remember Billy, my first boss,

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Speaker 2: when I was a kid. When I was sixteen, Billy

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Speaker 2: always told me, he said, you'll never understand people there.

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Speaker 2: You can't make sense that. I've been a rational thought

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Speaker 2: process and That was quite a while ago, and I

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Speaker 2: still remember it to this day because it just doesn't

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Speaker 2: make sense. So if you find yourself saying it doesn't

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Speaker 2: make sense, it's irrational, right, so you can't. I've been

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Speaker 2: picking up the phone more at the shop lately, trying

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Speaker 2: to We've gotten busier and busier, and I know more

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Speaker 2: and more people are looking for us and looking for me.

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Speaker 2: They want to talk to me. I'm not sure why

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Speaker 2: the sound of my voice seems to soothe people sometimes,

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Speaker 2: and okay, I'm trying to play the game and be

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Speaker 2: there for him. So I picked up the phone this

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Speaker 2: week quite a few times, and one of the calls

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Speaker 2: that I missed but I texted back and then we

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Speaker 2: had conversation via email went something like this, Hey, Ron,

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Speaker 2: I've got a twenty nineteen Jeep Grand Cherokee and I

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Speaker 2: need an AC condenser replaced. Can you give me a

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Speaker 2: cost because I'm having a hard time with the estimate

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Speaker 2: that I've already gotten of around one thousand and fifty dollars. Yeah, okay, sure,

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Speaker 2: I'll play and understand my hesitancy if you can, If

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Speaker 2: you will, please. Air conditioning has traditionally been expensive. It

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Speaker 2: just is people will drive their car with ball tires,

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Speaker 2: with black oil, with bad windshow wipers and cracked glass.

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Speaker 2: But if the air conditioning doesn't work, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we've got to have air. And it's always been that approach.

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Speaker 2: And my theory is that this is why the manufacturers

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Speaker 2: intentionally make the cost to repair so high. The parts

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Speaker 2: alone can be astronomical. Now, this being a twenty nineteen Jeep,

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Speaker 2: this is what we call twelve thirty four YF. This

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Speaker 2: is the refrigerant that is priced somewhere between liquid gold

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Speaker 2: and silver. It's just very very expensive stuff. So I'll

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Speaker 2: look it up. I looked it up in order to

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Speaker 2: give him a quote, and I found that there were

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Speaker 2: really no condensers in the aftermarket that I would prefer

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Speaker 2: to use. And by that, I'm saying none of the

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Speaker 2: brands that I like, none of the choices, none of

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Speaker 2: the manufacturers that I've become familiar with that I know,

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Speaker 2: work that don't give a problem, that don't make you

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Speaker 2: have to think, well, I have to redo this again.

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Speaker 2: They just work. So I quoted in Oe right from Chrysler,

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Speaker 2: right from Jeep, which I was going to tend to

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Speaker 2: do that anyway, because it's a newer vehicle, and I

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Speaker 2: think it takes the aftermarket a while to catch up

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Speaker 2: on making valid parts. And in this case, I was

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Speaker 2: in my opinion right again because I couldn't find anything

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Speaker 2: it up and I was twelve hundred and forty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Twelve hundred and twenty nine dollars. I think it came

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Speaker 2: out to adding in the cost of the refrigerant, same

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Speaker 2: amount of labor. Yeah, you know, flat rate out of

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Speaker 2: the book was two and a half hours. I rounded

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Speaker 2: to be aware of. And here's what I'm doing different

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Speaker 2: than the other guy. Because you listen, we all try

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Speaker 2: to sell ourselves. That's business, right, But you're trying to

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Speaker 2: And he wrote back and he said, okay, great, I'm

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Speaker 2: Because he's cheaper. And that just sat with me for

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Speaker 2: and I wrote back and I said, listen, I understand price,

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Speaker 2: I'm using are original cheap, because I couldn't fathom in

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Speaker 2: my mind how anybody was going to take the bumper

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Speaker 2: in the front grille in the front of this keep

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Speaker 2: apart because it's a big repair to do a condenser

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Speaker 2: and do it cheaper, not using same parts. I don't

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Speaker 2: you could do it, but you'd be losing money. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's possible. Some guys don't know how to run a business.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of stupidity in the world. I understand

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Speaker 2: that too, you know, look around you some days. So

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Speaker 2: he wrote back, and this is what really, this is

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Speaker 2: where it got irrational. Always says, I know, absolutely, you're

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Speaker 2: doing a quality job. I'm just going with the other

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Speaker 2: I might have to redo it again. That just stopped me.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure how to respond to that one of

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Speaker 2: the things I've always tried to teach you in the

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Speaker 2: podcast and whatever forms of communication you and I get

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Speaker 2: together with is you know, you get what you pay for,

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Speaker 2: and be aware of what you're paying for, but always

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Speaker 2: try to look at it as you know, a long

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Speaker 2: jayvity of repair and proximity of repairent and what else

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Speaker 2: trying to accomplish. This is a twenty nineteen vehicle, it's

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Speaker 2: six years old, It only had sixty three thousand miles

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Speaker 2: on it. It wasn't you know, a tired old vehicle.

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Speaker 2: And if you're trying to go the distance, if you're

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Speaker 2: trying to go to one hundred and fifty to two

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand miles, aren't you better off with a better

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Speaker 2: quality part. Of course, the argument could be made that

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Speaker 2: went sixty three thousand miles. But my suspicion is because

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Speaker 2: it's a condenser, and in some of the conversation I

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Speaker 2: the condenser. A piece of road debris came up and

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Speaker 2: hit it and caused the problem, and that very well

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Speaker 2: could be true. I don't know, because I still haven't

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Speaker 2: seen the vehicle, and I don't know that I will

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Speaker 2: anytime soon. Always know what you're buying. Always try to

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Speaker 2: make a rational, calm decision. Don't predicate it. Always on price.

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Speaker 2: You can. Hey, you're allowed to do whatever you want

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Speaker 2: the way you're going to get bit and that bite

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Speaker 2: really hurts, It leaves teeth marks. Because there's an adage

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Speaker 2: It goes something to the effect of the value of

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Speaker 2: quality is long forgotten after the price is paid and remembered,

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Speaker 2: something to that effect. And they're talking about that you

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Speaker 2: buy quality, you get quality. You don't buy quality, you

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Speaker 2: get a headache. And that's absolutely true. So when it

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Speaker 2: comes to auto repair, remember that's what you're trying, that's

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Speaker 2: what you're shooting for. I've also noticed in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of months, seven eight months now that more and

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Speaker 2: more people are looking for information, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: because nobody's really giving out straight answers anymore. Maybe people

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Speaker 2: to the point of misunderstanding and what are they trying

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Speaker 2: to accomplish? And it's difficult. Fixing cars is tough, Dealing

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Speaker 2: with people sometimes is tougher, and it's just an overwhelming

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Speaker 2: task at moments, which is why I always try to

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Speaker 2: explain to you from the perspective of a mechanic, but

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Speaker 2: I'm also trying to look at it from your point

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Speaker 2: we were talking about who will be interested in fixing

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Speaker 2: cars in the future, and someone brought up the fact that, well,

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Speaker 2: it won't be the next generation coming up, the youngsters,

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Speaker 2: And I said, why is that. Why do you feel

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Speaker 2: like that? And they said because of the cost. And

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Speaker 2: I understand that, And I understand that this generation is

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Speaker 2: Will it ever get here in some shape or form?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We can't afford to fix the cars

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Speaker 2: that we're currently driving. How are we going to afford

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Speaker 2: to maintain and fix the car of the future that

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Speaker 2: isn't even made yet. And when we make decisions to

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Speaker 2: put cheaper parts on, to go less distance in mileage,

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Speaker 2: just because are we going to make any good decisions

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Speaker 2: at all? The Emperor has no clothes. A five five

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Speaker 2: to kick the garage doors wide open. Don't go away,

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Speaker 2: and let's go to Brian in Wisconsin, Oh for Chevy

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Speaker 2: Express van. Brian, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for taking my call age.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, You're welcome. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, we got we got a vehicle from my parents.

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Speaker 3: My mother passed away last year and left us this

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Speaker 3: two thousand and four Chevy Express Wallduck conversion van with

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty thousand miles on it, and in

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Speaker 3: her honor, we were just going to start driving it

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Speaker 3: back and says, hey, the frame on this thing is gone.

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Speaker 3: He says, I'm afraid to put it on the lift.

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Speaker 3: My question is what do we do now? You know

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Speaker 3: we have a I think I sent you a picture.

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Speaker 3: We have a vehicle that's that looks really good. My

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Speaker 3: wife and I are looking to move into like a

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Speaker 3: to replace, you know, because we want to do some

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Speaker 3: traveling this fall or the you know, the upcoming years.

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Speaker 3: We figured we'd drive this thing and you know, into

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Speaker 3: the dust. But I think I'm afraid that we can't

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Speaker 3: do anything now.

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Speaker 2: Right the dust sort of caught up to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do we do now?

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Speaker 2: You know, keep in mind you're and I saw the picture.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice looking vehicle. Yeah, but keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're seeing the top side. Until you see

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Speaker 2: the bottom, you only see half the vehicle. So that

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Speaker 2: being said, is the frame really rotted or is it

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Speaker 2: just one section? Did it? Did somebody go around and

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Speaker 2: I I typically will take a twelve or a fourteen

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Speaker 2: way around, and how does it sound? How badly rotted

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Speaker 2: is the frame? Now? The other well, go ahead, go ahea, yeah, Well.

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Speaker 3: What happened is is you know, our guy said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: this is this is above me. So he sent these

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Speaker 3: photos off to a person who does frame repairs a

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Speaker 3: local heavy duty truck place. They called me back and said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So okay, so let's assume the frame really is, you know, garbage.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no two ways to look at this.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't sound like a case of or a victim

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Speaker 2: first question to you, Brian, is is this going to

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Speaker 3: No, well, we're going to buy another van, you know.

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Speaker 2: So what do we do now you scrap it?

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Speaker 3: Do we? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, or you go get you know, you start looking

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Speaker 2: the body's banged up on that, but the frame is solid.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna ask you a question. How much would

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Speaker 3: I mean go for in your shop? I mean that

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Speaker 2: Probably you have to start adding up hours, right, how many?

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Speaker 2: You've easily got three to five days of solid eight

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Speaker 2: But the other side of that is even the donor frame.

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Speaker 2: Is the donor frame going to come cleaner? Do you

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I'd never even thought of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So if you have to take the donor frame,

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Speaker 2: so now you're doing the job almost twice, and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, you're yeah. I think you're already making the

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Speaker 3: Do I take it to a person and say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's a matter of conscience. I myself,

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Speaker 2: because they made vans like that, and you could, you know,

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Speaker 2: all right, And we find it. We do this frame

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Speaker 2: swap by some shade of miracle of circumstance. You're still

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Speaker 2: and G the brake line broke, ge, the brake caliper

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Speaker 2: And where are we going to find these parts that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're we listened to your soul out. My wife

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Speaker 2: So listen, I'm looking at I'm just about ready to

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Speaker 2: I'm really close to getting the plates and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: you know? I drove this car in college. I'd go

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Speaker 2: Find something that you like, let him look it over,

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Speaker 2: I hope you find what you're looking for. I'm running

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Speaker 2: Don't go away, and we continue to continue. As Carpenter

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he's still around. He's still driving a van.

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Speaker 2: I got to pull Carpenter Bob's van on the lift

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Speaker 2: I keep telling you, guys that you just don't want

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Speaker 1: But while I was there the other day when you

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Speaker 2: now great, Oh he's great. Yeah, But Carter Bob is

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Speaker 3: Yes he is.

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Speaker 2: He's a great Actually, he's a great grandpa is what

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. Josh, Welcome back to the car doctor, sir,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Ron. Yes, you had a caller two weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: I believe the name was Bill Okay and he was

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Speaker 5: have we installed maybe some LED headlights aftermarket headlights? And

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Speaker 5: I only say that because on probably three of my vehicles,

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Speaker 5: So being north of Green Bay, Wisconsin, there's a distance

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Speaker 2: So I've got LEDs in my plow truck. I've got

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Speaker 2: But my experience to date has not been that So Okay,

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Speaker 5: I've got different brands LEDs, and I have either stock

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Speaker 5: Or it was just a thought.

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Speaker 2: Oh listen, I dig it, I get it. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: I really do it. And then again, is it a

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Speaker 2: Tom and ask him, as the chief engineer, do radio

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Speaker 2: But I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: To enhance the conversation if it were true, and I'm

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Speaker 2: we're all we're all stimulated by by our experiences. Then

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00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: why are they still selling LED lamps? And why isn't

430
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: anybody else complaining? But think of all the millions of

431
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 2: people buying those LED bulbs. You would think by now

432
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: somebody would have said, hey, you can't put LEDs in

433
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: these vehicles because the radio doesn't work.

434
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 5: Sure understood. I know there's a warning on some of

435
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: these labels, and I'm aware of that. It was just

436
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 5: a thought for me to give to him that, Hey,

437
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people are doing.

438
00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: This very very fair, very fair point job, and don't

439
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: don't don't detect anything above and beyond that. I dig it.

440
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. It's it's it's I never

441
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: even thought of it because I've never had that as

442
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: an experience. You know, that's that's But you know what

443
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: if he's out there listening. I think you're right. I

444
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: think it was Bill. If Bill is out there, if

445
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: he does have l eds and it unplug, it does

446
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: it go away? So but but I think his problem,

447
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the call wasn't his problem that

448
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: it didn't do it if the engine was off, but

449
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: it only it only did it with the engine running.

450
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 5: Running, and that would throw me back to running lights

451
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 5: or some some other component. Maybe he's added that has

452
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 5: some kind of RF interference once the vehicle's running, right,

453
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 5: that would just be my.

454
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. So yeah, see, now I had

455
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: I've had LEDs in my suburban for a long time,

456
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: and only recently, in the last couple of months, I've

457
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: noticed the AMCGNO is starting to become crummy that I

458
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: get static on certain stations. And I'm blaming that on

459
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: the radio because it's there, whether the headlights are on

460
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: or not. So, but you know, what to be continued,

461
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody out there has got answers, Maybe somebody's got

462
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: a different experience than you or I, and then we

463
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: can talk about that.

464
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, you know, I'm all about the conversation.

465
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely have something to do with his his

466
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: vicinity and the Green Bay Packers and lambeau Field. Will

467
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: you stop? Come on, Giant season is coming.

468
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: Let's go.

469
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Listen, We're gonna talk about the Giants

470
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: after this season because if they don't do anything better,

471
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 2: let's not turn this into a sports show, please. So

472
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: eight five five five six oh nine nine zero zero. God,

473
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm getting it from all sides today. I'm running any

474
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: in the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this.

475
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: Let's get over and talk to Andrew from Alabama. Andrew,

476
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: you're on with the Car Doctor at eight five five

477
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: five zero nine nine zero zero. How can I help?

478
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: Hey?

479
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: Ron?

480
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: How you doing? Good man? What's cooking?

481
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: Well? I've got this twenty twelve twist a tundra. I'm

482
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 4: actually talking to you from inside it on the bluetooth

483
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: right now, got my scan tool hooked up, I got

484
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: a got a light on the dashboard here. Uh so

485
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: uh before we get into that, though, for probably the

486
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 4: past I don't know six months or so, my horn

487
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 4: stopped working, or rather started working intermittently. Okay, and and

488
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 4: now I'm at a at the point where the horn

489
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 4: does not work at all. Recently, the light came on

490
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: my dashboard, and I've got a code B one eight

491
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: one one says it's an open and drivers squib.

492
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: Circuit, rights air big clock spring or the spiral cat.

493
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I was I was thinking that these two

494
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: problems may be related. I wanted to get your opinion

495
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 4: on on what I could check before I just go

496
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: throw in parts.

497
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: Of this thing.

498
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: Easy easy, easy stuff. First, all right, is go find

499
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: the horn under the hood and using fused power, whether

500
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: you use something like a power probe or a fuse

501
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: jumper wire, apply power momentarily to the horn feed. Does

502
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: the horn blow? It should, But let's let's let's let's

503
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: solve the easy problem first. If the horn, if the

504
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: horn blows, which I expect it will, then then we

505
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: know it's not the component. So then I would go

506
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: back to the base of the steering column. I find

507
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: a wiring diagram, identify which connector leads up to that

508
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: airbag clock spring and unplug it. Go scan it again.

509
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: Now my code should change to an open circuit. It

510
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: should also change the code right because now now I

511
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: can't see anything, and if it does, that tells me

512
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: the problem is from the ba bottom of the column

513
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: to the top of the steering wheel. And then I'm

514
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: going to tell you, you know, if you have the

515
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: capability and you know how to do it, you know

516
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: you've got to get the airbag out of there and

517
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: get down to the clock spring. In all likelihood put

518
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: a clock spring in it, and that'll that'll solve it

519
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: for you.

520
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So in your in your opinion to do, do

521
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: you think these these two problems are related.

522
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, my gut tells me yes, all right, that's sort.

523
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: Of what I was thinking. But uh, you know, as

524
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: I've as I've listened to your show for a long time,

525
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: you know you want you want proof, you want evidence. Yeah,

526
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 4: and uh so I was sort of just looking looking

527
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: for a good way I could I could start looking

528
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: for evidence.

529
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: The other the other thing you could do is you

530
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: know the other thing you could do, Andrew, is unplug

531
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: the horn and put a light bulb from the hot lead. Well,

532
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: let's talk about how does the horn work. The horn

533
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: is grounded and then you're applying voltage to it, and

534
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: the horn coil is the electrical load, right, But it's

535
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: it's no different than if I put a light bulb there.

536
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: And you can do this on any car. If you

537
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: want to see how it works, you know, go look

538
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: at a known good, right, always look at good before

539
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: you look at bed. And put a light bulb one

540
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: leg of the light bulb, you know, in a socket,

541
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: put it to the hot lead from the horn, and

542
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: then touch the other lead to ground when you push

543
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: the horn button. What happens the light bulb light's right,

544
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: we're applying voltage. We're applying voltage across a load. So

545
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, if you don't see your light bulb light

546
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: up in your broken truck and we've and we've and

547
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: you've got twelve vaults there, then you've got a bad

548
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: ground or a bad bulb. But if the light bulb

549
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: doesn't light up and you don't have twelve vaults, you

550
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: know the problem is that way, right? Yes, okay, same

551
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: thing as doing it. It's just applying twelve vaults to the

552
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: horn with the wire disconnected. Twelve volts is twelve vaults.

553
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 2: Ground is ground.

554
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: You know.

555
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: One of the things I always try to teach, and

556
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: did teach when I did teach, is take the component out,

557
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: put it on your bench. I don't care what we're

558
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: working on. You know, a connecting rod or rear end

559
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: or an electrical component. How would you test it on

560
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: the bench. If you can test it on the bench

561
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: the way it operates in the vehicle, then you've got

562
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: half the battle beat. And and maybe maybe you don't

563
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: have to take it and put it on your bench.

564
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Maybe you can just separate it in your mind. You know,

565
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: I've always looked at cars as every component makes up

566
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: the structure. So how would I test the component whether

567
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: it's attached to the structure or not. So in your case,

568
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: verify the horn. Then I'm gonna go back up and

569
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: take a harder look at that clock spring. Now, the

570
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: one question I've got for you is have you ever

571
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: taken an air bag out?

572
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: No, but I understand you need to exercise caution. Is

573
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: there explosive devices, yeah, and you can definitely get injured caution.

574
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Caution is an understatement. I've been to a few classes

575
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: where for the purpose of scaring us half to death,

576
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: they will they will detonate an air big You've never

577
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: seen anything go so high in the air and all

578
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: your life, brother, it just it takes off like a shot.

579
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: It's oh yeah, I've definitely seen the Instagram videos. You know,

580
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: someone's sitting on the tire and and it's I.

581
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 2: Can't emphasize it enough, and I would, I would tell

582
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: you point blank that when you do come down and

583
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: make the determination if it is and if it is

584
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: the clock spring. I'm a fan of oe clock springs.

585
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: I don't care what they cost.

586
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: I absolutely I'm in the same boat I generally with

587
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: most components on this this vehicle. I'm I'm gonna tend

588
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: to try to get oem if possible.

589
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Yep, just just because I always worry. Listen, I don't

590
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: like the fact that we're riding around with something that

591
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: has the equivalent force of a twelve gage shotgun in

592
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: front of our face. Most of the time. I just

593
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: it bothers the heck out of me. But I've come

594
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: to accept it. But that is the equivalent they say that.

595
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: They say an airbag going off is like the kick

596
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: of a twelve gage. So that's that's that's quite a shot,

597
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: all right. But attack it like that and I think

598
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: you'll find that it's going to be the clock spring.

599
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: But you know, just break down the circuit and if

600
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: you want, what you could do is there are kids

601
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: out there that will put a plug resistance across the circuit.

602
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: So what am I saying? In other words, the way

603
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: the computer knows the clock spring is good. It doesn't

604
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: just run voltage up and back down. It does a

605
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: resistance check. There's a resistance value, and it varies by manufacturer.

606
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: Each clock spring has a different resistance value. All right,

607
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: there are kits out there if you want to diagnose this,

608
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: that you can purchase that, say, for a twelve Toyota tundred,

609
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: it's going to have a resistance value of eighteen homes

610
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: and it'll give you the ability to dial eighteen homes

611
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: in and all of a sudden the problem goes away.

612
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: Now you know, the problem is definitely between the bottom

613
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: of the column and the top of the steering wheel.

614
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: And you know, my guess would be it's a clock spring.

615
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: At that point, at the very least, you're gonna pull

616
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: it out and you can start home checking it and

617
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: looking at it. But in all likelihood, you're gonna put

618
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: a clock spring in this vehicle high mileage.

619
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: Uh, I've got two eighty eight, four eighty nine. Yeah,

620
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: and I reckon that's just broken in, just.

621
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Broken in, baby. But that's where you're headed, and that's

622
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: where I would take it, Andrew. I appreciate the call.

623
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: Good luck. Let us know if you need anything else.

624
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm running any of the Car Doctor. We're back right

625
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: after this. Let's finish up the hour here. Hey, Ron,

626
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: I heard you talking last week about giving away T shirts.

627
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: I missed out on that show. Where can I get

628
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: my T shirt? Well, I'll tell you what there, Russ,

629
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: you can get out the cardoctorshow dot com and click

630
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: on the merchandise button. We have them up for sale.

631
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: We've had them there for a long long time. Sales

632
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: are doing well. But if you want your own card

633
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: Doctor T shirt, you can get it there, and we

634
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And I wish somebody would explain to me

635
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: because I don't understand it why RI Automotive T shirts

636
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: are out selling Car Doctor T shirts. I don't know

637
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: if I should be offended or not, since I'm both

638
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: one and the same, but it's the weirdest thing. RI

639
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Automotive T shirts, which are available there as well, Russ,

640
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,360
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641
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120
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642
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: I can't figure it out, but maybe I'm gonna have

643
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of I'll keep waiting. I'm thinking maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have like four hundred people show up to

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Speaker 2: work one day at the shop and I won't notice

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Speaker 2: it's them because they'll be wearing the blue and white.

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Speaker 2: But of that's where you can go. Get that and

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Speaker 2: another call. Another email, this one from Tom writes in

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Speaker 2: from North Carolina. Hey, Ron, I heard you talking in

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Speaker 2: last week about a jump pack, but I came in

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Speaker 2: at the end of the show and I couldn't catch

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. Can you tell me again? What's the

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Speaker 2: name of the product you were talking about? Yeah, Tom,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about I was talking about. I was talking

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Speaker 2: about the Schumacher jump Pack, Part number sixteen eleven. Works

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Speaker 2: real well, rugged, does a lot of things. USB ports

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Speaker 2: three and one charging a lot of great features. The

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Speaker 2: Schoemacher sixteen eleven is what you're after. I'm Ronning Aeny

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Speaker 2: and the car Doctor reminding you till the next time.

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Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See