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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast wants to know more about

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Speaker 1: Greg's Emo fade. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hands As I'm joined from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler. Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: was Greg's band Emo. I always thought it was more

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Speaker 1: a cyber goth punk outfit, but produced the tapes. Greg

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Speaker 1: produced the tapes Delaware. We've We've been over this so

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Speaker 1: many times. It was neither. It was sort of like

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Speaker 1: a jokey rock band, maybe a little like Dead Milkman.

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Speaker 1: Or they might be Giants were some bands I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: so a less cool they might be giants. That is

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Speaker 1: a profile that's a tough space to capture. Mark. We

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Speaker 1: were in the rock space speaking of Emo and the

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Speaker 1: pop punk band The Wonder Years and their singer and songwriter,

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Speaker 1: Dan Or. One of their songwriters has been a long

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Speaker 1: time listener of the show and we've been in contact

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Speaker 1: with them for a few years now, and they had

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Speaker 1: a show at the Balasco Downtown. So the dads saddled

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Speaker 1: guys for that. I'm wearing some Wonder Years merch talked

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Speaker 1: to and Dan does such great job with the merch.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Dan, I think we need help because

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Speaker 1: we need to do some merch on at N. It's

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Speaker 1: something we've heard over and over again. But the show

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Speaker 1: was incredible and I'm watching it, Mark, and we're watching

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Speaker 1: it from our advantage point, and like, how do we

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Speaker 1: do an ATN live show where the people care as

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Speaker 1: much about that band as they do about a football podcast?

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Speaker 1: Is that's my new goal in my career in life? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you kept mentioning that, and like my thought watching it

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Speaker 1: is music, that it's musical, that it's punk, that the

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Speaker 1: don't know if our shows UM lathered the crowd up

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Speaker 1: mean we have been UM corresponding with Dan Campbell from

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Speaker 1: The Wonder Years for a while. West used to write

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Speaker 1: like never really got around to it, unfortunately, But last night.

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Speaker 1: I've been writing to this guy for this many years

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Speaker 1: It was amazing, and I just think like a the band,

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Speaker 1: was shocking and not. You know, the one thing I'd

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Speaker 1: say merchandise wise is they don't have like a hulking,

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Speaker 1: like which sort of has prevented us from doing merchandise.

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Speaker 1: If we can get that mother shift to shift a

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Speaker 1: think the mothership would be like, okay, we could do

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Speaker 1: an exchange. You could sell the mercy want we will

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Speaker 1: It was great, A great night. Yeah. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: one even told me about this Dan. I didn't any connection, honestly, Greg,

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Speaker 1: that sounds great when you come back in March. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's he That's a classic miscommunication there, Greggy. I always

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Speaker 1: with no writing, that's pretty about now. How about Mark?

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Speaker 1: last place for ten years. What are you talking about? Mark?

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Speaker 1: looks like you've left whatever penitentiary you're in, which is

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Speaker 1: add more decord decoration. It's also a classic like reformed

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Speaker 1: Who John Robinson, um uber prospect out of Grave Diggers

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Speaker 1: hearing reports from ESPN that the Jags are expected to

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Speaker 1: he has a chance to play Mike White and the

428
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: Jets are over. But the head coach in my mind is,

429
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, because where we are in the league calendar,

430
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: they don't know who the quarterback is yet, So right now, Yeah,

431
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: he makes sense to somebody that could be in the mix,

432
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think he is at all trading Zach

433
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: Wilson is complicated. I still would like any scenario where

434
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: that'd be possible and you bring back Mike White as

435
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: a backup. There is a world where Lamar Jackson, after

436
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: all this drama, just stays with the Ravens. Aaron Rodgers

437
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: stays in Green Bay. Derek Carr decides he loves the

438
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: Saints and the Jets, who you know, I think it's fair.

439
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: We understand how aggressive and frankly desperate they are for

440
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback they can trust, but they get left

441
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: out in the cold, and then you got to deal

442
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: with like you have been pumping up Zach Wilson although

443
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: no one buys it, and you're pumping up Mike White,

444
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: but you might be stuck with, like who do you

445
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: gets your quarterback at that point? Robert Salo knows Jimmy

446
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: g But it's like there is this assumption they're going

447
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: to get one of these three guys, and it could

448
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: play out very differently in Leaves. I mean, I think

449
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: the way it's set up, they're gonna get car I've

450
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: heard and you never know. You hear a lot of

451
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: different things. But I have heard some rumnies. You know,

452
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: cars market might not be as great as he hoped.

453
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: I we'll see. But I just think the Jets are

454
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: the team that are going to make that thing happen.

455
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: If if they can't do better, they'll get good. Yeah,

456
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: I would say in this order for me, but Rogers,

457
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Lamar car Jimmy g will be the Jets starting quarterback.

458
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, to Mark's point, if all that

459
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: fell through, I think they would start kicking the tires

460
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: and things we haven't connected to connected to them, like

461
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: a Tannehill or Stafford or even Gino for Christ's sake,

462
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Like before they said okay, let's just run it back

463
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: with Mike White. I would some clarity would be nice

464
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: at that position. How about the Carson Wentz Did we

465
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Speaker 1: ever do the Carson Wentz released? By the way, the

466
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: poor guy didn't even crack the top one. I won.

467
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh we forgot that. I forgot. Carson Wentz was released

468
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: by the Commanders right after our show last week. And no,

469
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Speaker 1: I don't think that would be an option for the Nets.

470
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: But I don't either. His career is over. I think

471
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: Greg Greg Greg around, like really go ahead and starts

472
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: to take commands Greg around week twelve or thirteen, if

473
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Speaker 1: you want to have him to take command, Like, um,

474
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: I thought you came up with a great idea where

475
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: like use Carson Wentz as like a short yardage hammer,

476
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: like a like a Taysom Hill type guy that can

477
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: come in like he's not your he's your backup, but

478
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: he's used in certain ways where you take advantage of

479
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he's like built like a front door.

480
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: I kind of like that, like this is a guy

481
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: that like has talent. I just don't want him leading

482
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Speaker 1: the team. Just just be ready, guys, especially you mark

483
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz week one starter of the Arizona Cardinals.

484
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Carson Wentz has made too

485
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: much money to do Taysom Hills or all at this point,

486
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: I think he'd be like, see you later over that,

487
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: um all right. In other news the Chargers, it's been

488
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Speaker 1: spoken of that um Keenan Allen's time with the team

489
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: could be over. The veteran wide receiver has a tradable

490
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: contractum and yet Tom Talesco, the GM of the Chargers,

491
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: try to throw some cold water on that at the Combine.

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00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. Kenian Allen to me,

493
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: he like, he's our Andre Reid. Yeah, he's our Charlie

494
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: Joiner Like, yeah, he's he's an incredible football player, tack.

495
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: We need weapons around him, you know, there's never been

496
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Speaker 1: any thought of that. So he's he's he's with us.

497
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, between him and Mike Williams and

498
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: Josh Palmer, we think that's a great three receivers for

499
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: our quarterback. Got also Necklert running back. You know, we've

500
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Speaker 1: got an offensive line that can protect. So you know,

501
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: those are key weapons we need for our quarterbacks. Makes

502
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Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me, boys, how about you same?

503
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: And Uh, it's rare we actually get hard news in

504
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Speaker 1: the combine. And I think this is why I was

505
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Speaker 1: worth pointing out like that. You can put that to

506
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Speaker 1: bed now. I think he wouldn't have said that unless

507
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Speaker 1: he knew that's absolutely the plan. He was on the

508
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Speaker 1: set there, I believe with our friend andrews Siciliana Little

509
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: NFL network news breaking. Okay, it's not Andrew Siciliano Graver's

510
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Speaker 1: shaking his head, Just tell me who it was. Then

511
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: that was on Good Morning Football, which is a great

512
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: program itself. That was Peter Schreger who was speaking with

513
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: they're using the same set. Good job, Pete, A great journalist,

514
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger. I wouldn't know what you know on the show,

515
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Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger. Um. I love Peter Schreeger. He's connected as

516
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: hell and he'll let you know about it. There was

517
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: a great shot um at the famous steakhouse uh Saint

518
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Elmo in Indianapolis of Schreeger eating the shrimp cocktail with

519
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, legendary coach and reigning Super Bowl champions, sitting

520
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: in the booth next to him, and then I believe um,

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00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: Peter put in the caption with the tweet, Oh, by

522
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: the way, it's Brett Veach the GM taking the photo

523
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: spots we got to work on. I mean, yeah, that's true.

524
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: But also is it an awkward moment when it's like

525
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Pete's like, hey, can can you take the picture? Like

526
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: I want to get all big old big Red over

527
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: and big Red in the shot, putting Beach in a

528
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: bad spot, take a big dirt nap because Beach takedown

529
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Speaker 1: since he was on year the GM around in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen. Yeah, but think from the Schrager brand

531
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: end of things, that's huge. Yeah, I have the GM.

532
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: They got the architect of this championship team. As I

533
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: eat steak, do a little like photo icon, Brett Beach.

534
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the next level move. Um. This

535
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: is the first time I haven't had a Indianapolis steak

536
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: in February or March in a decade. And I know

537
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, Sanmo, it's not that good. I like it.

538
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: I used to say to Connor when we would all

539
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: get together and people would complain about going there all

540
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the time, I would say, it's not about the meat.

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Speaker 1: It's the meat. Eat eet No. I think we're circling

542
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: back to that conversation before the mark. Yeah, interpersonal connection

543
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I think is very important. I think we I think

544
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: we knew where you were, where you were coming from

545
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: with that, and just sort of in awe of your wordplay.

546
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And and we missed a lot

547
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: of traditions in Indianapolis this week, but we at least

548
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: got to hear that phrase from Dad. I think there

549
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: was like like a tiny bit of mild grumbling one time,

550
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: and then it like all we've heard about it's like

551
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: everyone knows is talking about the eight. Almost. Well, here's

552
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: what it's really about. It's about America. It's about America.

553
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: It's rooted in patriotism. Uh no, it's it's it's a thing,

554
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: and I miss it. I wish, I wish we were

555
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: having steak with Connor roor So we're not all right.

556
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: In other news of the Ravens haven't had a lot

557
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: of success building out their wide receiver room during the

558
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson era, and Eric Decasa spoke about that at

559
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: the combine this week with the media. He had some

560
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: candid thoughts on that, and after those comments were aggregated,

561
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman, the twenty twenty one first round pick at

562
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: the position, offered up a tweet that he then deleted,

563
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: but it lives forever on the internet, and he said

564
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: this at his GM. How about you play to your

565
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: player's strength and stop pointing the finger at us and

566
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Speaker 1: number eight that's referencing, of course, Lamar Jackson. Blame the

567
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: one you let do this. We take heat twenty four

568
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: to seven and keep us healthy. Care about us and

569
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: see what happened. Ain't no promises though. Tired of y'all

570
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: lying and capping on players for no reason. After deleting

571
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: the tweet, he sent out a new message, my apologies.

572
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, maybe I shouldn't bury my boss publicly

573
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: on social media. Maybe maybe on my apologies will take

574
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: care of this. He's probably he's not wrong, though he's

575
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: not wrong, h if. And that really does greg give

576
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: you an idea of some of the legit rumblings inside

577
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: that building for an organization that's usually pretty airtight, right,

578
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: and Bateman has been one of their better picks. He

579
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: just hasn't been healthy, or wasn't last year. But he

580
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: looked like he was developing into a nice number two

581
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: receiver at the least, which will live up to his

582
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: late first round draft stock. But the training stuff was messy,

583
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: and so I went and checked out the NFLPA report card.

584
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: You guys, see this thing that came in did Yeah,

585
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: that was bonkers. That thing pretty stunning. It was interesting.

586
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: We could get into that you guys if you wanted.

587
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: But I did check the Ravens training staff, the strength

588
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: staff rather, which was the one part of the report

589
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: card that almost everyone got a's and a pluses, like

590
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: everyone loves their strength. Yeah, except for two teams. The

591
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: Falcons had a D minus and the Ravens had an

592
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: F minus. So there's something going on where like they

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00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: are not happy with what's going on behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: in terms of the strength staff, and that's a little

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00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: different than the training staff. But the training staff got

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00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a C and the I believe the weight room got

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00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a see. So it was like a little you know,

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00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens players aren't happy and that it was. It

599
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: was interesting because everyone always talks about how the Ravens

600
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: are this great organization. That was a real aberration because

601
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: if you looked at that report card, a lot of

602
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: the weight rooms got graded poorly UM to the point

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00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: where if you dug down to some of the commentary,

604
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: there were players complaining, like the Arizona Cardinals um got

605
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: I think the worst grade of anyone across the board.

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00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: It seems like an absolute UM disaster over there. They

607
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: were they were technically thirty first, but I don't know

608
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: how that happened because they had four F minuses, right,

609
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean F minus doesn't even exist. How did you

610
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: How did the Commanders finished behind the team that had

611
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: four F minuses? The minus is the gentleman's e right,

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00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: but the one thing that I think what a lot

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00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: of the players were probably trying to do was say

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00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: that in inclement environments, in the in a weight room

615
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: that is not up to par, the training staff. These

616
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: are the guys that motivate you and tell you we

617
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: believe in you. And like the training staffs, almost across

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00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: the board got B plus to A plus, except you're right,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens did not. And the one thing, the one

620
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: position group that seems to have been um problematic for

621
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: them for so long drafting wise, was wide receivers. But

622
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: go back to Hollywood brown being frustrated with that offense,

623
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: for shod Bateman, frustrated with the way that he's been

624
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: handled in his health because I thought he looked like

625
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: he was about to set on fire early last season,

626
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: and that offense. Now they've fired their offensive coordinator. It's

627
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: like the Ravens that have been this like pristine organization.

628
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: There were little cracks here left and right, And as

629
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: an old school Browns fan, you don't hate to see it. Well, no,

630
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know what, you can't just coast,

631
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: you gotta keep You can't have that weight room sitting

632
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: out there with your training staff getting FS and d's

633
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: this Ravens stuff this offseason. But you remember I was

634
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: gonna I was gonna build sell the Ravens to build

635
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: West the old Mouser that would an underground railroad that

636
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: would go across the country. You sell the Ravens franchise

637
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: for that, it'd be a better, better deal. Tough time

638
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: for Cards fans out there for F minuses and looking

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Speaker 1: at their roster, it just feels like they are I

640
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Speaker 1: don't know if you've done a power rankings lately, but

641
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Speaker 1: they might be my thirty two. I think they're my

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Speaker 1: number thirties. It's gonna be a tough year in Arizona.

643
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Speaker 1: And you know you're bad when the commanders are like

644
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Speaker 1: looking down at you'd be like, hey, we just got

645
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Speaker 1: one F and two F minuses, so that's cool. Finally

646
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Speaker 1: in the news, Carolina Panthers founder Jerry Richardson died on

647
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Speaker 1: Wednesday night at his home in Charlotte. He was eighty

648
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Speaker 1: six years old. His celebrated figure when he brought the

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Speaker 1: NFL to Carolina in nineteen ninety five, but his time

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Speaker 1: with the team ended in twenty seventeen due to scandal.

651
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Speaker 1: He was forced to sell the team to David Tepper

652
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Speaker 1: for a then NFL record two point two seven five

653
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Speaker 1: billion after the twenty seventeen season, amid allegations of sexual

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Speaker 1: and racial misconduct in the workplace. A statue of Richardson

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Speaker 1: outside the building was subsequently removed, and Richardson is now

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Speaker 1: oh no longer with us. So Jerry Richardson dies at

657
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Speaker 1: the age of eighty six, one of the only X

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Speaker 1: players ever. I could be wrong, but I think he

659
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Speaker 1: was the first X player to ever become a team

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Speaker 1: owner to make that path. Before we take a break

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Speaker 1: and bring in Lance Greggy, do you want to get

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Speaker 1: us caught up and we talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: veterans potential cuts ahead of free agency? Here, what are

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Speaker 1: some names that are jumping out to you? Is you,

665
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Speaker 1: I know, you're licking your lips in a really kind

666
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Speaker 1: of uncomfortable way because you want to add these guys

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Speaker 1: to your top one oh one, not about their personal

668
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: failures but or unemployment impending unemployment. But you just love

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Speaker 1: to beef up that list. So that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: it's about for you. Okay, that's not totally true. I'm

671
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Speaker 1: just trying to provide information for the listeners here of

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Speaker 1: what we might see another in a week or two.

673
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we still have the music. We

674
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: used to have a segment Dan sponsored everything every week

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Speaker 1: by Acrasher. What does that company do again? Accreshure, it's

676
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Speaker 1: a it's an adult toy that we discuss earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, loving that sponsor. All right, some some possible

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00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: cuts to look for in the coming week. It sounds

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00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: like Joe Mixon has gone based on what Duke Tobin said,

680
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Speaker 1: it just makes a lot of sense. Michael Thomas, I

681
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: believe is certain to be cut. Frank Clark's a big

682
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: name that I think probably gets cut. Lyle Collins with

683
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, Byron Jones, Miami, Shack Griffin and Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: They need space sneaky close to the cap. Bud Dupree

685
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Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Donovan Smith, longtime left tackle for the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. I think he gets cut. Let's just end

687
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Speaker 1: this first. Eric Kendrick possibly for the Vikings, Harrison Smith,

688
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: possibly for the Vikings. Adam Thieland might take a pay cut,

689
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Speaker 1: but otherwise he might get cut. Shack Harrison, Matt Ryan, Ryan, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: john Us Smith. I think your boy Corey Davis might

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Speaker 1: get cut Carl, depending on what they're trying to do. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: I think Lawson's gone. They got a first round pick

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Speaker 1: ready to take a spot. Okay, Holly tie, I didn't

694
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Speaker 1: need to go first. That's fine, Romeo Acquio and I

695
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: could keep going down the list of offensive linemen. But

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Speaker 1: those are the biggest names I see as likely cuts

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Speaker 1: in the coming room. A lot of nice potentially nice value.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those guys will maybe sign shorter term

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Speaker 1: deals to try to get their value back up, and

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Speaker 1: those becomes some steals, so interesting, good stuff. All right,

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Speaker 1: take a break and we'll get lands In. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: the man who brings raw sensuality to Indianapolis after February

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Speaker 1: and march Zaddy in his own right. Landsier line, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to around the NFL. Well, I mean I don't

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Speaker 1: have an auto tune, trust me, it would be all

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Speaker 1: in lands the combine. The workouts began today and you

707
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: are there, boots on the ground. I mean, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to quarterbacks and some other prospects that are interesting

709
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Speaker 1: to us. Is there kind of above the tree tops?

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Speaker 1: Like what is everybody talking about right now? When when

711
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Speaker 1: you're at Prime forty seven, you're at Elmo or whatever.

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Speaker 1: What is kind of like the people of your ilk.

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Speaker 1: What are you guys like? What's getting you guys juiced

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Speaker 1: about this class? Well, I don't think you want to

715
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Speaker 1: know exactly what we're talking about, because it's I heard

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00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: you guys talking. But actually I heard the conversation before

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Speaker 1: I went on the air, and so actually it would

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Speaker 1: fit in with this this show just probably off the microphone.

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Speaker 1: But um, I would say, you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: it is it revolves around Jay Link Carter obviously, that's

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Speaker 1: that's gonna garner a lot of attention. A lot of

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Speaker 1: conversation about the quarterbacks right now, which is, you know,

723
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: are certain guys being too hyped up right now? The

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Speaker 1: hyped up enough? And that's really been a lot of

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Speaker 1: the conversation has been about, you know, what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen at the top of the draft and is Ryan

727
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Speaker 1: Poles is everything coming out of Chicago smoke right now?

728
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Speaker 1: Or is any of it real? That's those are conversations

729
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of talk out of oh and

730
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Speaker 1: some Lamar Jackson stuff. You know what's going to happen

731
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Speaker 1: with Lamar? And what are the Ravens going to ultimately do.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who believe he's getting traded.

733
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Speaker 1: Just a lot of people say they're just they'll just

734
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Speaker 1: take their lumps this year, figure out quarterback and move

735
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Speaker 1: forward with a boatload of picks. Well, you think, Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 1: it is getting overhyped, that who you're talking talking about

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Speaker 1: when you say the quarterbacks and getting overhyped. You know.

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Speaker 1: So we so we live in the social media world,

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00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: so that's not always the real world, as you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys know, but it's hard not to think back

741
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Speaker 1: to the Malik Willis, all the hype from last year

742
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Speaker 1: and then he gets drafted in the third round and

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00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: it's like, whoa, what happened here? And it's all to

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Speaker 1: the point now where social media has taken, you know,

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Speaker 1: for Anthony Richardson, they've taken We've all seen the same

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Speaker 1: two plays. There's three plays. There's a pass play where

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Speaker 1: he's dodging left and right in the pocket and throws

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Speaker 1: kind of a three quarter side arm throw against Tennessee

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Speaker 1: that's really cool. A run against LSU that's a long

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00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: run for touchdown. And then there's a rollout against I

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00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: think Vanderbilt maybe where he rolls right and throws a

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Speaker 1: dime into the end zone. And those are the three

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Speaker 1: plays that everyone shows over and over, and it's just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a fair representation. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think social media, the guys who compile the

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Speaker 1: highlight plays and get all the likes and the retweets

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Speaker 1: and all the dopamine hits because there because people are

758
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Speaker 1: giving them all the attention for creating these highlight videos

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Speaker 1: of players, I don't think they do a very good

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Speaker 1: job of showing what the players actual strengths and weaknesses

761
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: are and the areas of concern. And so the freight

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Speaker 1: train of hype starts rolling downhill in the you know,

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Speaker 1: not just on not just in social media, but I

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Speaker 1: think it leads its way into the television world because

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Speaker 1: that's what people are talking about, and then it doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily match up with what NFL people are thinking about players.

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, I think all of these

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Speaker 1: guys have a lot of work to do. I think

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Speaker 1: Levis and Richardson have a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 1: but they're also wildly talented. But I feel like the

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Speaker 1: freight train needs to slow down just a little bit

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Speaker 1: for Richardson, because I don't think it's really fair to

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Speaker 1: him at this point. You know, it's Um, I love

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Speaker 1: what you just said, because you're in a group of

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Speaker 1: people that you know, you and Daniel Jeremiah, and in

776
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: a house for us, you're watching full games versus these

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00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: ten minute, twelve minute cutups that really just show typically

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Speaker 1: the top of the top of the echelon of their performance.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at someone like, um, you know, Richardson,

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Speaker 1: he's gone. Some people have in the first round. He

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Speaker 1: goes down to the fourth rounds in some mocks. But

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Speaker 1: like Bryce Young, I think is an interesting study because

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Speaker 1: the last quarterback who was you know, essentially listed under

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Speaker 1: two hundred pounds to go in the first round with

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Speaker 1: Jim McMahon. I mean that is we're talking AONs ago.

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Speaker 1: So where is the real concern level? Because I think

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Speaker 1: now you've got coaches that say, we can look at

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks differently, we can coach this up. But there's so

789
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Speaker 1: much to like about Bryce Young. But does it's not

790
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Speaker 1: just the height, but does the weight and the body

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Speaker 1: size really like does he like the teams eliminate him

792
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Speaker 1: because of that? I think the height is I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say it's irrelevant, but the height is not

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00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: a big concern because you can roll out pockets. You're

795
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Speaker 1: sitting in a shotgun, you know so often. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think there's different things you can do from a

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00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: height standpoint that doesn't bother me as much. The frame

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Speaker 1: thing you can't get around. I mean, he may come

799
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Speaker 1: in here and wait two hundred pounds and that could

800
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: be a I told you so to everyone. It's not

801
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna matter. Everyone knows he's slightly built, and so there

802
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: is a consideration. It can concern because it's fine if

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Speaker 1: you can coach a player up for the different areas

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Speaker 1: of concerns he has. But can he take some of

805
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Speaker 1: the hits that other quarterbacks take when a guy falls

806
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: on him even though he's well protected, and he stands

807
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Speaker 1: in and delivers the ball late because he wants to

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00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: make sure and you know, to get this throw off.

809
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Speaker 1: They don't want to give it up too early? Can

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Speaker 1: can he withstand that punishment? And then the other thing

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Speaker 1: is going to be is he going to be able

812
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Speaker 1: to recover from injury as quickly as everyone else? Or

813
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: is an injury to a shoulder or a chest or

814
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Speaker 1: a leg a hip. Is that going to be something

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Speaker 1: that knocks him out of the game and keeps him

816
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: out for another couple of games? So I think that's

817
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: the big concern is is how many games is he

818
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Speaker 1: going to miss? Now? He hasn't missed a lot of

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Speaker 1: games at Alabama, he's you know, he's been relatively healthy.

820
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: But the NFL game is faster, there's less ability to

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Speaker 1: protect him. Alabama's got better prospects than you have, probably

822
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Speaker 1: on their on line and your d line. Their on

823
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Speaker 1: line is probably going to have more prospects as opposed

824
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Speaker 1: to you know, the exception of the Georgia game. But

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, if he gets drafted by the Texans,

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Speaker 1: if he gets drafted by uh, you know, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: or the Panthers or anybody who could come up and

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Speaker 1: trade up and draft him, can they protect him well

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Speaker 1: enough and can he protect himself? I think those are

830
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: real concerns. But make no mistake about it. On tape,

831
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Speaker 1: he's clearly the best quarterback in this draft. And then

832
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Speaker 1: you know, on the subject of qbs, it was ninety

833
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: four picks last year before the fourth QB came off

834
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Speaker 1: the board. In your first mock and I know these

835
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: things are highly fluid and they're kind of a fun

836
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: exercise more than something to like study scientifically. But you

837
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Speaker 1: have four guys in the first nineteen picks, starting with

838
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Young to your Texans at two, and then the Bucks

839
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Speaker 1: grabbing Richardson as their post Brady guy Will Levis you

840
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: have right now mocked to the Raiders at seven. Makes

841
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of sense that Josh McDaniels looking to develop

842
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: another QB, did a nice work with Mac Jones as

843
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: a rookie, and they're obviously moving on from Derek Carr,

844
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: so that match makes sense. But I'm curious more about

845
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Speaker 1: as a prospect, like what he needs to show right

846
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: now and how much did you put in Obviously had

847
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: a tough season in twenty twenty two, his final college

848
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Speaker 1: season with the injuries. Does that leave you more concerned

849
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Speaker 1: or do you give him kind of a pas as

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00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: on that and look more at what happened when he

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00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: was healthy in twenty one. Yeah? I looked more at

852
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and I still see some of the

853
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: same concerns. I mean, I actually gave him a plus

854
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two for playing through injury, playing hurt

855
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: showing his ability to be tough through it all. But

856
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: there's just some fundamental accuracy stuff that really bothered me.

857
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: I just and some decision making and taking too many sacks.

858
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: There's some poised considerations in the pocket, I mean the

859
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: arm talents there. I think he's a talented quarterback. But

860
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: twenty two is a very rough take. Twenty one is better,

861
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: but there are still some issues that I think you

862
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: need to work around. Now I can tell you that

863
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: there's a chance I could come up on my grade

864
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: based on how he looks here at the combine and

865
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: a protey And I know it's on air, and I

866
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: know there's no defenders, but I think just you know,

867
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: I want to see him throw accurately from point A

868
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: to point B. I don't want to see him spray

869
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: it all over the place. And so those are some

870
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: things on air. If he's if he's struggling to put

871
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: it on frame for these wide receivers here at the

872
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: com um, that's that's, you know, kind of a it's

873
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: not confirmation bias, it's tape by it's tape confirmation that

874
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: he has natural accuracy issues. But I do think Will

875
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: Levis is a guy that teams want to like, they

876
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: want to buy into Will Levis because he does have

877
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: some of the physical traits that you really really like.

878
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: And I can understand why teams get excited and and

879
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there is enough on twenty twenty one

880
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: for people to project. But everybody, whether you like Richardson

881
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: or Levis or both, the big thing you you want

882
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: to try to lean on is Josh Allen. Josh Allen,

883
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I think you're chasing a unicorn. That's like saying, you know,

884
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, oh, this guy can be the next you know,

885
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: maybe like Nolan Ryant, he can continue to pitch when

886
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: he's really older. Maybe he'll be like Lebron, or maybe

887
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: he'll be like Tom Brady. These are these are false comparisons.

888
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: You can't make comparisons to these, to these unicorns. It's

889
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: just it's hard to do it. I think Josh Allen,

890
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: it's it's yet to be determined, but Josh Allen may

891
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: be one of those rare instances where accurately curacy issues

892
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: were improved to a not only functional level, but a

893
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: very solid level. Who are you mentioned Levis? He kind

894
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: of want to see how he looks in terms of

895
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: his accuracy I'm sure Richardson will blow the doors off

896
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: in terms of like his testing, We'll see how he throws. Like,

897
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: who are some other offensive, maybe skill guys you're looking

898
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: at this week that could show some juice, you know,

899
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: a little preview for who's walking in the NFL network

900
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: stuff this week. And in terms of receivers, maybe running backs, well,

901
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Scott, wide receiver out of Cincinnati. He's a former

902
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: running back and he's got he's very tough with the

903
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. But he was also a track guy,

904
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: so he's got great sprint speed. He is really really fast,

905
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: so he's going to run really really fast. But the

906
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: other thing is and I think he does need to

907
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: get a little bit better from just learning to play.

908
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: But I think Tyler Scott was one of my favorite

909
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: ascending prospects when I watched him. I think he's a

910
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: second round wide receiver. I think he's gonna run really

911
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: fast and test really well, and I think he's gonna

912
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: look good in the drills as well. So that's a

913
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: guy to keep your eye on. A wide receiver like

914
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers who's gotten bigger over the like during the

915
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: quote unquote draft season, he's gained. He's put on like

916
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: eight to ten pounds of muscle, and he looks bigger

917
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: like he looks good. Zay Flowers is gonna run really

918
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: really well. Tank Dell Nathaniel, Tank Dell. It is rare

919
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: to be named tank when you're one hundred and sixty

920
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: three pounds and you are. He's a wide receiver named

921
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Tank who's one hundred and sixty three and he's gonna

922
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: run in the four threes. So those are some guys

923
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: that are going to bring some juice, I think, to

924
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: the table. But it's unusual because we have a lot

925
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: of smaller wide receivers. There's gonna be a lot of

926
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: big cornerbacks and smaller receivers this year that you're gonna

927
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: notice at the combine and then you know. So those

928
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: are some of the guys that are going to run

929
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: really fast. But a guy that I think you're gonna

930
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: start hearing a lot more talk about is Cedric Tillman

931
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. Kind of a lost you know. Jalen Hyde

932
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: is I don't know if he's running out here, but

933
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: if he does, it's going to be extraordinarily fast. But

934
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: he had a lot of touchdowns. He was terrific this year.

935
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: I think people sleep on the fact that Cedric Tillman

936
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: played this year on a high ankle spring. He ended

937
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: up having a surgery so he could get it back

938
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: out on the field faster to join, you know, his

939
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: teammates and compete, which I think is a big bonus

940
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: in terms of what he's willing to do. He's big,

941
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: he has great ball skills, and he had three hundred

942
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: and fifty two yards receiving last year. In twenty twenty one,

943
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: I should say against Georgia and Alabama. I mean three

944
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: to fifty total against Georgia and Alabama. That should immediately

945
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: catch your attention. And I talked to a couple of

946
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: personnel guys in the NFL just kind of brought up

947
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: his name, and they were like, we're right there with you,

948
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, he had he had the tape last year,

949
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: and so you have to go back also to twenty

950
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: twenty one to just re remind yourself that Cedric Tillman

951
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: is a real dude out there, and he's a guy

952
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: that he may not run the fastest forty, but if

953
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: he gets under four or five, he gets in the

954
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: high four fours. I think his name is really going

955
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: to start to creep up and maybe even start to

956
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: be mentioned in the late first round because there's no

957
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: real wide receiver ones For me, it's not quite in Johnston.

958
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: It's not Jordan Addison, it's not Jai Jayala High. It's

959
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna be my top rated wide receiver, but leat speed.

960
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: But I don't believe there's a true wide receiver one draft.

961
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: I want to I appreciate that we've got some small

962
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers in this draft. If I want to talk

963
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: about a human being who is um the opposite, he

964
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: is very large. He is about two hundred and seventy

965
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: five pounds. He's six foot four from the state of Iowa.

966
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Hovering from that land um, it is Lucas van Ness,

967
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: my draft man crush at this point. I know he

968
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: wasn't really a starter per se in college, but it

969
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: seems like he is a figure of massive intrigue. He

970
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: doesn't even fit into most cars. How do you view

971
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: this player? So he's his nickname is Hercules for a reason.

972
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: That's what he looks like. That's how he's gonna test.

973
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: I think right now, he's he's a He's a good

974
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: athlete with great size, but he's not as skilled as

975
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: he needs to be. The hands need to get better.

976
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: He's not a very skilled pass rusher, which I think

977
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: can come in time. It's something you can coach up,

978
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: but it's not always going to click. So sometimes with

979
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: some players the coaching hits. And then you take the big, strong, powerful,

980
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: explosive player and if he gets his hands worked out,

981
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: if he starts to develop go two moves, well you're

982
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: looking at one of the more potentially one of the

983
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: more dominant players to come out of the dis draft

984
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: from a pass rush standpoint. If he doesn't develop, and

985
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: if he still continues to lean on power and strength,

986
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: well the NFL can you know, they have guys who

987
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: can counter you on power and strength. So you'll be

988
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: You'll be good, but you may not be great. So

989
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: I think Lucas fan as the key is going to

990
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: be Can he add skill to what is already a

991
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: force driven playing style. If he can add the skill

992
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: level and add a little finesse and pretty up the

993
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: game a little bit and get the skill level you know,

994
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: elevated a little bit, I think a law starts to

995
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: click for him. Lets you have no idea how important

996
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: it is for Mark, that guy hits now that he's

997
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: publicly brought him up, there's a lot riding on this

998
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: for Sessler, that's true. Yeah, let me ask, well a

999
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: little good out here. I mean, Cessler's gonna he's gonna

1000
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: come out of this looking like the champion out of

1001
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: the combine. Let's just see how it looks on draft

1002
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: day and then you may have to revisit this in

1003
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: three years or when it's signed for a second contract.

1004
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: That's a long time for you to answers. That's a

1005
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: long time for you and Greg to wait to glow like.

1006
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: That's a long time for a second contract to say

1007
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: you were wrong. You know, I don't think you're gonna

1008
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: be able to say that. We've been doing this soho

1009
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: for ten years. We still make fun of like when

1010
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: he really was in love with Zach Zenner or who

1011
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: was the other guy, Toby Gerhardt on the Vikings. Yeah, Gar,

1012
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: we remember if you were two thousand, were a white

1013
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: running back that wasn't Christian McCaffrey. Mark likes you. I mean,

1014
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: the one thing he can't do. So we're gonna start

1015
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: our Riley Moss discussion in and go white cornerback? Is

1016
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: that ever? Gonna make the rounds on h I feel

1017
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: free to speak on him, go ahead. I mean he's

1018
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: he's a legit running back. I mean he's a legit cornerback.

1019
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: He's going to be drafted as a corner. There will

1020
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: be talking about moving him to safety. You know, he'll

1021
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: get the hey, we should move him to safety talk

1022
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: the cursory we should move him to safety. Talk. But

1023
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: he's a legitimate cornerback and he's going to be drafting

1024
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: on Day three. He's physical, he's got some cover skills.

1025
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: I think Riley Moss is a legitimate cover corner. He

1026
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: may not be anything more than a backup in the league.

1027
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Who who gets to play here and there's a third

1028
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: cornerback or if there's injuries, But I think Riley Moss

1029
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: is It's it's it's been a long time. It's been

1030
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: a long run. You had Jason c. Horn and now

1031
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: Riley Moss. Now. I don't know if he's going to

1032
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: end up you know, supermodels or TV cars or whatever

1033
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: the case may be. But I do think he's got

1034
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: a chance to play in the league. Also, that's a

1035
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: great um pop culture slash sports trivia question that I'll

1036
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: pose to Greg Rosenthal. Jason Sehorn's wife is or was.

1037
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Angie Harman corrects, well done, Greggy. Let's close here and

1038
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: thank you for your time here Lance from the bowels

1039
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: of Lucas Oil Stadium, which you probably know as well

1040
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: as your own home at this point in your life

1041
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: and career. H Yeah, Bijean Robinson, we played his highlight

1042
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. Our producer, Gravedigger is a Longhorn alum,

1043
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: as he ceaselessly tells us, who's the comp here? How

1044
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: special is this guy? You have him as a top

1045
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: five prospect. That doesn't mean he goes top five because

1046
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: of how the running back is viewed in our league,

1047
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: as we know, but like, who's the comp in terms

1048
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: of what kind of player? This guy? Could be kind

1049
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: of hard to come up with an exact comp. But

1050
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I think say Quan is a fair comp. I mean,

1051
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: he's he's not going to be as fast as say

1052
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley, but what he is is he is a

1053
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: very powerful running back. He runs. He runs with a

1054
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: combination of elusiveness and power, and you don't know which

1055
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: one you're again, So what happens is a lot of

1056
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: times you'll see tacklers get up to him, and if

1057
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: they're not sure, if they're on their toes waiting for

1058
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: him to wiggle and then he hits them head on,

1059
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna get trucked and it's not gonna look good.

1060
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: If they're bracing to really run through him and he wiggles,

1061
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: then they're going to look bad. So he can toggle

1062
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: between elusive and power, which I love. The other thing

1063
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: is is he's a full menu running back, so he

1064
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: can handle first and second day, you know, from a

1065
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: fantasy football standpoint, which we all dabbled, obviously, he's going

1066
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: to be a guy that fantasy owners are gonna love

1067
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: because he didn't have a tremendous amount of wear and

1068
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: tear off the treaded Texas. They did a pretty good

1069
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: job of limiting, you know, the heavy duty touches. But

1070
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: he can gain yard from himself through wiggle, he can

1071
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: gain yarch to himself through power. He can catch the

1072
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield at a volume rate, and

1073
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: he can protect the quarterback so and not to mention it.

1074
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: When he gets around the goal line, he can put

1075
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: it in there. So there's really not a lot of

1076
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: weaknesses there. I don't know that he's necessarily going to run.

1077
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: He may be like a four or five forty guy.

1078
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Maybe four five five may not be the fastest forty guy.

1079
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: But I really, honestly that really doesn't bother me as

1080
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: long as he has enough first. That's uh, yeah, that's

1081
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: Jeremiah brought up a good point that these type of guys,

1082
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: these running backs, they make sense going to a team

1083
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: that's ready to win. I believe you had him mock

1084
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: to the Bills, which would be a home run. Um

1085
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see where he lands rebuilding team

1086
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: or contender. Hey, last question, I'm curious Lance, Like, so

1087
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: we our combined experience has always been, or at least

1088
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: in recent years. You know, we parachute in for the

1089
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: coaches and gms and then we get out of dodge, right,

1090
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: you are there for the whole thing, Like so, like

1091
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: when you're there? Like when did you get into town Lands,

1092
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: into Indie and into town Tuesday late afternoon and you're

1093
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: leaving Win Sunday night? All right, so what are you doing?

1094
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: What are you doing in Indie now from Thursday through Sunday?

1095
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: You've already hit probably all the punts. Or are you

1096
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: such a veteran that you know places that people don't

1097
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: even they're not even aware of, or is it getting

1098
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: to the point now where you're at the White Castle

1099
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: at the outskirts of town by the time you get

1100
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: to the Friday night. Now I'm a I'm a legitimate

1101
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: food guy, So I hit restaurants that are critically acclaimed,

1102
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: so I'll make patients find going to I saw Matt Rule,

1103
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: who you know what was it twenty twenty It's either

1104
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen combine. His wife was trained at a culinary

1105
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: school just for you know, just because she wanted to.

1106
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: And so I saw Matt Rule at this really nice

1107
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: James Beard nominated restaurant that was about twenty five minutes

1108
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: outside of Indianapolis, and we talked food there in some football.

1109
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: I made it to a place called Beholder that I

1110
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: don't think anyway. So here's the key. Look, I know

1111
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: they're probably not advertisers. I've never seen him advertise anywhere.

1112
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Resie is the key. The app Resie is going to

1113
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: have any city you go into, some of the coolest,

1114
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: hippest food forward places is always going to be on RESI.

1115
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: So you look through there and then I do my

1116
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: homework after that. So, like I scout cornerbacks, and I

1117
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: scout wide receivers and offensive. I scout restaurants as well.

1118
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: I look through the menu. Is it tasting me? What

1119
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: is a cocktail? Men? You look like? Is it? You know?

1120
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: Am I going to have to make? Is there a

1121
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: chef's table or a chef's counter? What does it look

1122
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: like from its hire standpoint? Because I can tell you

1123
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: it's going to be casual for me. Yeah, I noticed

1124
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: you on NFL network just wearing a plaid shirt, no jacket,

1125
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: no tie. And this was a Tier one show. You're

1126
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be wearing a tie. I was like, they're

1127
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: gonna yank Lance right off of it. Then here's a

1128
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: good idea. Tell me before I pack my clothes and

1129
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: get on a plane that you're gonna have me on Yeah, okay,

1130
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: I see that's a good cover. Oh it's also a

1131
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: power play. It's also a power play by Lance. It's like,

1132
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: you know I'm good at this. You know the value

1133
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: I bring. If you want to give me an issue

1134
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not wearing a tie, well guess what I'm

1135
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: just I'm killing the game. Decide what's more important. It's

1136
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: a cho lnge is what it is. That's what I think.

1137
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a brand that is created for draft

1138
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: analysts and especially guys who write tape. Is we're supposed

1139
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: to be grinders. You don't put a grinder in a tie. Frankly,

1140
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: I should get a hoodie my show. I should dress

1141
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: exactly like you guys dress at all times on every show. Well, Lance, Um,

1142
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: keep up the good work, buddy. Be you love it?

1143
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: I shirt and I'm like, what, how's that supposed to mean? Greg? No,

1144
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: I like, I legitimately liked it. You were. It was

1145
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: a cool shirt, and you were. I was just surprising

1146
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: to see next to Aciliano's like three piece suit. It

1147
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: was great. It was a cool shirt. Um, all right, Lance,

1148
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,959
Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us, buddy, and enjoy

1149
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: all the good eats and the good times and indie

1150
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again soon, see Lance. There

1151
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: he goes Lance. He's a good fella. As they say, um, boys,

1152
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: here's the plan. That's the last show of the week. Maybe,

1153
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: um but um. During a of contemplation with my canine

1154
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: last night, it did strike me. Let's be ready, let's

1155
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: be on call. Uh, this Lamar Jackson situation. As you're

1156
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: hurt again from Lance. Something can break at any moment.

1157
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: There could be a trade Aaron Rodgers that could go down.

1158
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: I floated the idea of a Derek car emergency podcast,

1159
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: and just for the thought of Mark having to do

1160
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: that on call and do a thirty minutes on Derek

1161
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Carr that potentially is in play here just for entertainment value.

1162
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: So maybe you'll hear from us tomorrow Friday if big

1163
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: news breaks. Otherwise we have shows all through next week.

1164
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: I think typically in our society, the people that are

1165
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: on call are you know, emergency workers, highly regarded surgeons

1166
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: and bloggers, and so we we just will fit right

1167
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: in there and do it's it's our job, it's our task,

1168
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: it's our it's a joy to do it all. Greg.

1169
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm now living in this garage. I'm not going to leave.

1170
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: But we do have some breaking news before we leave,

1171
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: though I don't know we got an emergency pod. The

1172
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: NFL has announced that referee Jerome Boger has retired after

1173
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: nineteen Are you going that is okay? Breaking news? Drop? Okay,

1174
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: We're in a little bit of a slump there, but

1175
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: Boger is one of the more recognizable dudes, you know,

1176
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: so Bogie leaving the game while he still has his fastball.

1177
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he does or not. In fact,

1178
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: who knows why he's leaving. I know the NFL is

1179
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: probably behind the scenes looking to tighten some things up

1180
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: in that realm, but I don't want to connect any

1181
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: dots on that. If Bogie just decided this is the

1182
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: end of the it was run. Got speed, buddy, and

1183
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: enjoy whatever comes next. I was just hoping, actually, you

1184
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: were going to come after me for a reckless use

1185
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: of breaking news and didn't even work. No, because I

1186
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to shatter your confidence

1187
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: on it unless you're now purposely trying to denigrate the

1188
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: breaking news drop, which is okay. If you want to

1189
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: go with a bid on it, that's fine too. But

1190
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: now he's been doing that for like, I think it's

1191
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: three or four years he's been doing You should have

1192
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: seen what happened last week, Mark, when you were trapped

1193
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: at sea. He used the breaking news drop to announce

1194
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: that he was not going to put Conklin, not Conklin,

1195
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: who was it, Taylor Luan on his top one on one. Well,

1196
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: that lacks integrity, Greg, you need to clean that up.

1197
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: I choose not to. I was just tempted to do

1198
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: breaking news again, to say, now I know, uh, let's

1199
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: do it justin, let's go, let's go whenever. You could

1200
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: build up the joke in this manner, and it's gonna land.

1201
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: My wife and Pat Rules Bat Rules wife have something

1202
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: in common. They both went to culinary school. That's it.

1203
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: And I did. I did see your eyes light up

1204
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: when Lance mentioned that it sucks at Rules now back

1205
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: in the college game. Good for him. He's getting paid

1206
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of money and he'll thrive because he killed

1207
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: it with Baylor before and Rutgers before he got to

1208
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. But he would have been a good guy

1209
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: to keep in our rotation. But he's gone. He's gone.

1210
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be running that program for years and probably

1211
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: never come back to the NFL. He describes her wanting

1212
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: to go to Culinaris culinary School just because she wanted to,

1213
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: like he sort of well maybe it's a deep passion.

1214
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: We don't know. We just sort of just just sort

1215
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: of flippingly decided to go and check that. I think. Yeah,

1216
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: the idea was she didn't need to be making you know,

1217
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: eighteen dollars an hour to work till one in the

1218
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: morning because he has her taken care of financially. Maybe

1219
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: that was what he was getting after I'm not sure.

1220
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: Hard to say, hard to say. We may never know.

1221
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: It was Temple, by the way, not Rutgers from that rule,

1222
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, Grave digger. All right, that's it. So, like

1223
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I said, and less news breaks and dictates an emergency

1224
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: pot Come on, Derek Carr, make that decision. We will

1225
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: be back on Monday with more around the NFL goodness

1226
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: as we get closer and ever closer to free agency

1227
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: and yes, the draft good stuff. Thanks to everybody listening

1228
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: until uh you hear from us next. Yes, hey, baby,

1229
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: you gotta heat that call. In that call. It's coming

1230
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: to my place to see my face heat the cally. Okay,