Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're screaming
Speaker 1: a happy Valentine's Day. Whether you're single, partnered, or just
Speaker 1: loving yourself and don't need nobody else, We're sending you
Speaker 1: some show love and a special shout out to my Valentine,
Speaker 1: whose actual name is Valentine. Love you BJBZ. It's Friday,
Speaker 1: February fourteenth, and in honor of Valentine's Day, we'll be
Speaker 1: chatting with the co host of The Sports Gossip Show,
Speaker 1: Charlotte Wilder and Madeline Hill about NEPO Hubbies, relationship, medium launches,
Speaker 1: our faith, sportelebrity couples, and how their show challenges stereotypes
Speaker 1: for women in sports media. Plus unrivaled crowns The One
Speaker 1: Tonight League One Vibs is bringing young and seasoned volleyballers
Speaker 1: together and you slices send out some platonic Valentine's Day love.
Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this Welcome back, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today. College athletics news.
Speaker 1: The NCAA Committee on Women's Athletics is recommending that flag
Speaker 1: football be added to the organization's Emerging Sports for Women program.
Speaker 1: The recommendation allows Divisions one, two, and three an opportunity
Speaker 1: to sponsor legislation that would move flag football closer to
Speaker 1: being considered for championship status. To officially hit that threshold,
Speaker 1: a sport must have at least forty schools sponsoring at
Speaker 1: at a varsity level and meet minimum contest and participation requirements.
Speaker 1: At the moment, at least sixty five NCAA schools are
Speaker 1: sponsoring flag at club or varsity levels. Flag football's popularity
Speaker 1: is growing rapidly across the country, with fourteen states sanctioning
Speaker 1: girls flag as a high school varsity sport, and it
Speaker 1: will also be contested at the LA twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 1: In college hoops news, TCU women's basketball star and former
Speaker 1: Oregon Dux player Sedona Prince is facing multiple allegations of
Speaker 1: sexual assault, domestic violence, and sexual misconduct now. Rumors of
Speaker 1: these allegations have been swrolling for months, but now there's
Speaker 1: reporting from The Washington Post Molly Hensley Clancy. Per her findings,
Speaker 1: the earliest claim dates back to twenty nineteen, and the
Speaker 1: most recent allegation came just last month, when Prince and
Speaker 1: anex had an altercation that resulted in both parties reporting
Speaker 1: domestic violence. Hensley Clancy story also notes that two of
Speaker 1: Prince's accusers were asked to sign non disclosure agreements. Prince's attorney, A.
Speaker 1: Boon Almanza, told the Post that the twenty four year
Speaker 1: old quote categorically denies that she has abused anyone in
Speaker 1: her life, whether mentally, emotionally, or physically, and that quote,
Speaker 1: unfortunately others have decided to use Sodona as a launch
Speaker 1: point for their careers end quote. Regarding the NDA's Almanza
Speaker 1: said quote. In an effort to create some relationship privacy,
Speaker 1: Sodona has asked girlfriends to sign non disclosure agreements because
Speaker 1: their personal intimate moments should not be the subject of
Speaker 1: public discussion. End quote. Prince is currently playing her last
Speaker 1: year of college basketball at TCU. She played for Oregon
Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two. She gained mass
Speaker 1: popularity on social media after posting a TikTok during the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NCAA tournament that brought attention to a
Speaker 1: lack of equity and facilities between the men's and women's tournaments.
Speaker 1: We'll link to that. Molly Hensley Clancy story in our
Speaker 1: show notes and keep you updated as we learn more
Speaker 1: about the situation. In WNBA news. Could a Charlotte expansion
Speaker 1: team be on the horizon? A bid has officially been
Speaker 1: submitted to bring a team back to the city. Erica Berman,
Speaker 1: an executive at financial services company card Works, is spearheading
Speaker 1: the bid, backed by the MNBA Charlotte Hornets. The Charlotte
Speaker 1: Sting was one of the original eight WNBA franchises, but
Speaker 1: folded after the two thousand and six season. Worth noting.
Speaker 1: Earlier this month, the WNBA filed a trademark application for
Speaker 1: the Charlotte Sting name, along with the Cleveland Rockers, Miami Soul,
Speaker 1: Houston Comets, and Detroit Shock Also, Commissioner Kathy Engelbert has
Speaker 1: expressed her desire for a sixteen team league by twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. League only needs one more to get there
Speaker 1: to unrivaled. Tonight's the night the League quote unquote crowns
Speaker 1: the one in its one on one tournament. The single
Speaker 1: elimination semi final round kicks off with the Leah Edwards
Speaker 1: versus Arigae Agunbowale at seven thirty Eastern, followed by Azaree
Speaker 1: Stevens versus NEFISA Collier at seven forty five, and the
Speaker 1: winners of those matchups will have very little time to
Speaker 1: catch their breath before meeting in the finals at eight
Speaker 1: pm Eastern, a best of three to crown the champ
Speaker 1: the first few or any indication things could get real
Speaker 1: spicy tonight. You can catch those games live on TNT
Speaker 1: and True TV. More hoops news. The mnba's Celebrity All
Speaker 1: Star Game is upon us, and some of our women's
Speaker 1: sports faves are suiting' up. Olympic Track and Field gold
Speaker 1: medalist Massi Russell, two time Atlanta Dream All Star Ali Shagray,
Speaker 1: and WNBA champion and Golden State Valkyries forward Kayla Thornton
Speaker 1: will all hit the court alongside their celebrity counterparts. That
Speaker 1: game tips off tonight seven pm Eastern on ESPN to lacrosse,
Speaker 1: there's one WL game on the slate Tonight. Round robin
Speaker 1: play continues in the Lexus Championship Series with the battle
Speaker 1: of one to oh teams. The California Palms face the
Speaker 1: New York Charging at six pm Eastern, streaming on ESPN plus.
Speaker 1: The semi finals of the Women's Lcross League series start
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and the final will be played on Monday.
Speaker 1: We'll link to that schedule in the show notes so
Speaker 1: you can tune in to pro vibs. The League One
Speaker 1: Volleyball Classics starts tonight. It's a three day tournament at
Speaker 1: Municipal Arena and Kansas City, and all six Love teams
Speaker 1: will compete Love Madison and Love Houston. Get Tonight's doubleheader
Speaker 1: started at five Eastern, followed by Love Austin and Love
Speaker 1: Salt Lake at eight pm Eastern. But before either of
Speaker 1: those matches, Love will hold a pro camp during the
Speaker 1: day with position specific training for juniors ages thirteen to
Speaker 1: eighteen and get this, college coaches will be allowed court
Speaker 1: side to recruit so much vibes and a super cool
Speaker 1: opportunity for the youngsters. We'll link to the game schedule
Speaker 1: for the weekend in our show notes. Back to the hardwood,
Speaker 1: there are two Monster College Hoops matchups coming up on Sunday. First,
Speaker 1: number seven Yukon rides their two game win streak into
Speaker 1: a big test against the number four South Carolina game Cocks.
Speaker 1: That one's at one pm Eastern on ABC, and no
Speaker 1: time to breathe because immediately following that game, number five
Speaker 1: LSU squares off against number three Texas, also on ABC.
Speaker 1: Get your popcorn ready. There's also a bunch of other
Speaker 1: ranked teams in action this weekend, so we'll link to
Speaker 1: the full schedule in our show notes. There's more vibes
Speaker 1: hockey and hoops going on tonight and over the weekend
Speaker 1: in the PVF, PWHL, and AU Pro Basketball, so we'll
Speaker 1: link to that comprehensive sports calendar from Slice Joey in
Speaker 1: our show notes, we got to take a quick break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, it's time to dish on all
Speaker 1: the hot goss with Charlotte Wilder and Madeline Hill see
Speaker 1: on the other side. It's been a while, y'all, but
Speaker 1: it's time for another group chat where we take the
Speaker 1: tea from the text and we bring it to the airwaves.
Speaker 1: Joining us now, she's co host of The Sports Gossip Show,
Speaker 1: a weekly podcast that gives you a courtside seat to
Speaker 1: the latest drama and most interesting news about athletes, leagues
Speaker 1: and teams. Formerly of Meadow Arc Media, Fox Sports, Sports, Illustrated,
Speaker 1: Sponation USA Today and more. She's got a substack called
Speaker 1: The Wilder Things, the Best Hair in the Game, and
Speaker 1: she enjoys tinned fish. It's Charlotte Wilder.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Sarah, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Thank you joining her? The other co host
Speaker 1: of the Sports Gossip Show and writer of the newsletter
Speaker 1: in Personal Foul. She has previous stops at Ways, Hello, Sunshine,
Speaker 1: Entertainment Weekly, CIA, and more. She went back to school
Speaker 1: recently to get her Masters from Oxford, where she also
Speaker 1: did improv. She loves buttered noodles and fit checks. It's
Speaker 1: Madeline Hill. What's up, Madeline?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 4: Wow, the best intro we've ever heard. Also, the list
Speaker 4: of places I've worked is like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I could have gone on, as you know, I
Speaker 1: stopped and I was like, I'm not going to.
Speaker 5: Say all yeah, no, thanks.
Speaker 1: I would like to do a separate show with you
Speaker 1: where we just do like pros and cons of every
Speaker 1: single place, and you're like, best cafeteria, worst colleagues, best
Speaker 1: HR policy, place to right. Yeah, well sure it.
Speaker 5: Would be interesting, absolutely, Sarah.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should wait until you change industries before we
Speaker 1: get too honest.
Speaker 4: Wait until I start my Florist cookbook store in Maine,
Speaker 4: and then I will tell you everything perfect perfect.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that as a promise down the road, when
Speaker 1: we're both washed and no one who cares anymore, we'll
Speaker 1: finally spill all the real tea beautiful. I love it.
Speaker 1: Madeline tell us how this show came to be the
Speaker 1: sports gossip show.
Speaker 2: So this show grew out of my sub second personal foul.
Speaker 2: I found that there was a gap in sports coverage
Speaker 2: that covered stories off the field. I always joked that
Speaker 2: I would look at the Wikipedia Personal Life section of
Speaker 2: athletes during sporting events because I was like, who are
Speaker 2: they married to, who'd they get divorced from? What weird
Speaker 2: endorsement deals do they have? What does their Instagram presence
Speaker 2: look like? And felt like no one was covering these
Speaker 2: very important topics that I needed someone to write about.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm gonna write about them myself,
Speaker 2: and so that started in twenty twenty. It kind of
Speaker 2: snowballed and grew from there, and then Charlotte actually wrote
Speaker 2: something for my newsletter. It was all about NBA gossip.
Speaker 2: I think it was around the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5: I think it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you asked it was like your favorite piece of
Speaker 4: gossip from the twenty four season, and I was like, well, obviously,
Speaker 4: when James Harden skipped Joel Embiid's wedding of course, yeah.
Speaker 1: Most important.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then we were on a two hour phone
Speaker 2: call and we're like, wait, I think we could turn
Speaker 2: this into a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And had you met before?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Wow, I love that you just hit it up off.
Speaker 1: We just hit it off.
Speaker 2: And then we met in person for the first time
Speaker 2: in September, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we started planning the show maybe June May June,
Speaker 4: because I think we both, you know, have been in
Speaker 4: entertainment and media long enough that when we got on
Speaker 4: the phone and there was the same level of like, Okay,
Speaker 4: you're buttoned up in this way, you want these certain things,
Speaker 4: like there's a professionalism that we both care about, and
Speaker 4: we were just like cracking each other up on the phone.
Speaker 5: We were like, you know what, let's just let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. You know, Charlotte, one of the
Speaker 1: things I really love and respect about you is that you,
Speaker 1: since you entered the business, have been very willing to
Speaker 1: sort of stand in the face of some stereotypical criticisms
Speaker 1: of women that they aren't enough about x's and o's.
Speaker 1: You came in and you were like, I love sports.
Speaker 1: I also have never like studied them to be an expert.
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the fun stuff, or
Speaker 1: I want to do really cool videos where I'm embedded
Speaker 1: with every college team and learning their traditions and I
Speaker 1: get to be in the marching band one day and
Speaker 1: a cheerleader the next. Like, there is so much of
Speaker 1: that that's allowed for men in this space, and for
Speaker 1: such a long time, there was a real fear as
Speaker 1: a woman in the industry that if you admitted to
Speaker 1: caring about things outside of whether that you know, Cover
Speaker 1: two worked, that people would doubt you and you wouldn't
Speaker 1: find a home. And you have always found a home
Speaker 1: and thrived at that. So this feels like such a
Speaker 1: natural space for you to enjoy. Well, I'm like going
Speaker 1: to tear up. That's so sweet, Sarah.
Speaker 4: I think I do think that that's you know, when
Speaker 4: I saw Madeline's newsletter, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: she put a name to like what I've enjoyed doing
Speaker 4: the most in my career, which is sports gossip, which
Speaker 4: is the human side of this, and we you know,
Speaker 4: I I think like in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen,
Speaker 4: I pitched an idea for a podcast called First Date,
Speaker 4: where I was like, for people who don't know sports
Speaker 4: but are going on a date with someone who loves sports,
Speaker 4: and for people who don't know pop culture but are
Speaker 4: going on a date with that, And all these mail
Speaker 4: execs were like, no one's going to listen to that,
Speaker 4: And so to see our show blow up with Madeline's
Speaker 4: brilliant has just been like the most validating.
Speaker 1: It's very validating. Yeah, Yeah, And I also think there's
Speaker 1: something to be said for how you do it. When
Speaker 1: I heard someone describe professional wrestling like WWE wrestling, not
Speaker 1: wrestling wrestling, as soap operas for men, I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: And when we started talking about the NBA off season
Speaker 1: being more popular than the games because it was about
Speaker 1: which players were trying to woo, which guys to switch teams,
Speaker 1: and how free agency was working, and how men were
Speaker 1: essentially soaking that up the way women stereotypically soak up
Speaker 1: soap opera storylines. It's all about framing. When we talk
Speaker 1: about the things women like in sports, quote unquote women
Speaker 1: and it's all stereotypes and it's all you know, can't
Speaker 1: be categorized in such a way, but it has been.
Speaker 1: It's always with judgment. But on the men's side, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: but they know they like that because it's like about sports.
Speaker 1: It's like, wa, wait, that's the exact same thing we're
Speaker 1: talking about. You're just raming it differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always say sports news is just like a
Speaker 2: cover or for men to be it's okay for them
Speaker 2: to talk about gossip.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's socially acceptable gossip for men.
Speaker 1: Like that's what sport like trades.
Speaker 2: It is just like workplace drama that men are like,
Speaker 2: it's serious business, it's sports news, and it's like it's
Speaker 2: gossip in the same way the role Housewives as gossip exactly.
Speaker 4: Also, Sarah, something that I think I did your show
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, and you said something that has stuck
Speaker 4: with me, which is the idea of how women, at
Speaker 4: least of our generation, it felt like, stereotypically weren't socialized
Speaker 4: to need to know things about sports. And I think
Speaker 4: because before I started working in sports, like almost ten
Speaker 4: years ago now, I wasn't in sports, I remembered what
Speaker 4: it felt like to be cut out of those conversations.
Speaker 4: And so what we try to do is, you know,
Speaker 4: as we talk about the gossip as we talk about,
Speaker 4: you know, Bill Belichick and his twenty.
Speaker 1: Four year old girlfriend. We also talk.
Speaker 4: About the sport and the game and give qualifiers because
Speaker 4: so much of it's media for men feels like not
Speaker 4: for men. But that's kind of the undertone, right, like
Speaker 4: this is for guy and they don't qualify, and it's
Speaker 4: Andy Reid, it's not chiefs head coaching. Right, So many
Speaker 4: more people out than could come in if they just
Speaker 4: knew who these people were, right.
Speaker 1: We do that on our show a lot because we
Speaker 1: both have people who are diehard women's sports fans and
Speaker 1: people who want to know more, and so if it's
Speaker 1: the simplest reminding them which player, which team, which sport,
Speaker 1: using the full name instead of always the acronyms, and
Speaker 1: that allows them in, it's so worth doing. It's so
Speaker 1: funny you said that. I literally just did an interview
Speaker 1: where I was talking to someone about how, despite being
Speaker 1: like a three sport athlete obsessed with sports, no one
Speaker 1: ever talked to me about sports. I was not raised
Speaker 1: to no x's and o's, or play Madden or do
Speaker 1: any of the things. And it does make a difference. Okay,
Speaker 1: so on this show, we do love our sports goss,
Speaker 1: but because there is a dearth of legitimate, trusted sources
Speaker 1: for women's sports news every single day, and by that
Speaker 1: I mean we are the only one. We also have
Speaker 1: to sort of have a reputation for getting things right
Speaker 1: and it keeps us from running with rumors or getting
Speaker 1: like too deep into the weeds with personal stuff for players.
Speaker 1: But you're our guests, so it's only right.
Speaker 2: So you say we can say the alleged, so.
Speaker 1: We can have the conversations we want to have. Venness
Speaker 1: have it be about you saying it. I'd let you
Speaker 1: flex all those sports goss muscles to the fullest extent
Speaker 1: right here and especially today on Valentine's Day. So let's
Speaker 1: get into some stories that you've talked about on the
Speaker 1: show and maybe some you haven't. Your show covered the
Speaker 1: early days of Las Vegas acistar Asia Wilson and her
Speaker 1: Boo bam Audebio from the mnba's Miami Heat. You talked
Speaker 1: about them before they went public, and we have also
Speaker 1: been following along with them since the Winky Winky days
Speaker 1: to their more open love story and we have a
Speaker 1: nickname for them, Aposto bam uh.
Speaker 5: I love that. That's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is a both a punctuation joke and
Speaker 1: a reference to the apostrophe in her name, which is great.
Speaker 1: What do you make of him being the first to
Speaker 1: wear her signature shoe and again, Charlotte, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I mean we've talked about this in the context of
Speaker 4: we love a supportive boyfriend, we love a man who
Speaker 4: look Asian Wilson, MVP of the w NBA bam Adebio,
Speaker 4: not the MVP of the m NBA. Good player, but like,
Speaker 4: she is so many worlds better in her sphere than
Speaker 4: he is in his. That like, I think his not
Speaker 4: being threatened by that, his being supportive, his wearing her shoe,
Speaker 4: his showing up for her in these ways that typically
Speaker 4: you see women show up for their male you know,
Speaker 4: the people there in relationships with it is just like
Speaker 4: it's so good, it's so important, and it's just like,
Speaker 4: look how much more fun you can have when you're
Speaker 4: not threatened by your thread.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I reposted immediately. I was like, obsessed
Speaker 1: he's wearing the shoe. But then the part of me
Speaker 1: was like, is it bad that he got to wear
Speaker 1: her shoe in a game before she did?
Speaker 2: Oh, that isn't hmm, that's not great.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think it's just chronological. She's
Speaker 1: not in unrivaled the wnbas and in season. So I
Speaker 1: allow it because I love that it's part of the
Speaker 1: promotional push. But part of me was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I love this, and I'm also like mmmm.
Speaker 1: And then we still had a man getting to wear
Speaker 1: the shoe. Hurst that's fair, but that was hardened because
Speaker 1: he was in a game against a guy wearing Sabrina
Speaker 1: shoe and I was like, yes, bitches, take it over.
Speaker 1: Snatt exactly. Y'all dug into Sandy Brondelo, the coach of
Speaker 1: the New York Liberty, having her husband as one of
Speaker 1: her assistant coaches. Arizona College women's basketball head coach Adia Barnes,
Speaker 1: her husband is an assistant on her staff as well.
Speaker 1: We love to see it. You considered calling these guys
Speaker 1: NEPO hubbies, but then you also solicited other ideas, Madeline,
Speaker 1: did you get any good ones?
Speaker 2: You know, we didn't get any NEPO hubby ideas. I
Speaker 2: feel like the narrative around the word NEPO is always
Speaker 2: with NEPO babies. But I do feel like it's time
Speaker 2: to change a narrative and let's have a conversation about
Speaker 2: more NEPO husbands in different industries, because I feel like
Speaker 2: the NEPO baby conversation is strictly in like the actor
Speaker 2: actress World Maya Hawk, Ethan Hawk's daughter Dakota Johnson, who's
Speaker 2: what's her name is, Donnie.
Speaker 1: Melanie Griffin, don Johnson.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like there's enough of a conversation
Speaker 2: around the NEPO hubbies, and maybe even NEPO baby conversation
Speaker 2: in sports.
Speaker 1: I mean it comes there is for football because we're
Speaker 1: all aware that somehow, and and like NASCAR and racing sports,
Speaker 1: where everybody's somebody's son. In football, they're like somebody, actually,
Speaker 1: I can't remember who wrote like a pretty decent expose
Speaker 1: of the fact that every single lower level job at
Speaker 1: the NFL and college is somebody's like son or nephew, right,
Speaker 1: and how they're like they're like, women don't want the jobs,
Speaker 1: and it's like no, their pipeline is literally like having
Speaker 1: to have been born to you.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, no, Brian Schottenheimer failed to get a
Speaker 4: head coaching job and then just got one at the
Speaker 4: age of fifty because his dad was also I've read
Speaker 4: about that one, but there's a lot I love the
Speaker 4: NEPO hubby yeah role because like, in the same way
Speaker 4: that Bam is supportive of Asia, it's in your job
Speaker 4: description you were an assistant coach and she's the coach, right,
Speaker 4: so it means that something's got to be working there
Speaker 4: in a way where he's like, cool, yeah, I'm supporting you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There is a recent example though, of a NEPO hubby
Speaker 2: is Madison Keys, the tennis player who won the Australian Open.
Speaker 2: Her husband Bjorn is her coach, so that I feel
Speaker 2: like it is an interesting dynamic and also a NEPO
Speaker 2: hubby adjacent storyline.
Speaker 1: Right, because how are we to be sure that he's
Speaker 1: the most qualified, which is what we do for women
Speaker 1: every time they get a job by relationship to someone
Speaker 1: right is good at tennis.
Speaker 5: We can't even say his last name, so I.
Speaker 1: Don't know anything. I don't even know I don't even
Speaker 1: know l I don't know anything about Bijorn, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to slander him, but I do want to
Speaker 1: give him the same treatment that like every woman has
Speaker 1: ever gotten when she's hired for anything, Like, remember me
Speaker 1: when there was the first ever quality control coach in
Speaker 1: the NFL and everyone suddenly not only knew what a
Speaker 1: quality control coach did, but also knew she wasn't qualified
Speaker 1: despite having like thirteen years in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Right and like having quality control in her title. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's her whole job, right, qualified to qualify?
Speaker 1: Thanks? Yeah, so sorry Bjorn, but like you have questions, right, questions.
Speaker 1: On one of our recent shows, we noted the retirement
Speaker 1: of Scottish soccer player Jen Betty and mentioned that she
Speaker 1: and US women's national team great Ali Kreeger medium launched
Speaker 1: their relationship on Instagram. Jen posted on her insta story
Speaker 1: around Thanksgiving, thankful for you, Happy Thanksgiving, My love at
Speaker 1: Ali Kreeger, and Ali reposted it and added, you have
Speaker 1: no idea how do we feel about Medium?
Speaker 2: I love a medium launch, especially because I feel like
Speaker 2: that medium launch in particular knowing the history obviously with
Speaker 2: Ashlan Harris, her ex wife, where I would argue that
Speaker 2: that relationship ended in a very public fashion. Ashland very
Speaker 2: quickly dated so Bush after we all know this. Sofia
Speaker 2: Bush wrote that big essay for Glamour that that was
Speaker 2: a very public extreme hard launch to the nth degree.
Speaker 2: And in contrast, Ali's like, I'm not doing that. I'm
Speaker 2: doing like a subtle medium launch on stories. I'll eventually
Speaker 2: hard launch in feed. I'm going to be a little
Speaker 2: bit more subtle about it because I'm going to kind
Speaker 2: of have the upper hand here. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: it's a power move. Is a medium launch, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like a medium launch.
Speaker 4: Everything is circumstantial, right, Like, And I think that there.
Speaker 4: I liked how organic this was where it's Thanksgiving and Jen,
Speaker 4: which is sort of a she's you know, from the UK.
Speaker 4: For her to say happy Thanksgiving is sort of playing
Speaker 4: on Ali's turf already because Ali's American, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's like, I'm just posting this on my Instagram because
Speaker 4: this is how I feel at the moment, right And
Speaker 4: and for Ali to then be like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do the thing where I'm scared
Speaker 4: of people finding out about us. I am going to
Speaker 4: repost your story tag and to put you have no
Speaker 4: idea is also a little bit of information for everybody
Speaker 4: out there where she's like, yeah, things were bad, now
Speaker 4: they're great without saying anything.
Speaker 5: It's a master class.
Speaker 4: I think Ali Kager has been a masterclass in public
Speaker 4: relations to this whole thing.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I hadn't thought about the Thanksgiving part.
Speaker 1: I also can picture them all like sitting around at
Speaker 1: the house and saying like, on Thanksgiving we all go
Speaker 1: around and say what we're thankful for and Jen being like,
Speaker 1: what a lovely tradition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thankful for you.
Speaker 1: And then you know what I mean like, and then
Speaker 1: that's spurring this sort of public acknowledgment. I do agree
Speaker 1: that Ali has mastered somehow silence at every turn when
Speaker 1: the natural instinct would be like, hold up, you are
Speaker 1: oversharing or you are getting to say your business and
Speaker 1: I'm not. But because she's been quote unquote winning throughout
Speaker 1: where most people have sort of sided with her in
Speaker 1: this split, her silence has just furthered the feelings of
Speaker 1: goodness towards her, whether fairly or not. Like just because listen,
Speaker 1: there's a Mindy Kaylee quote that was like, I'll never
Speaker 1: be mysterious. I talk too much. Like that's me, Like
Speaker 1: I could never medium or soft launch anything because I
Speaker 1: struggle to have any privacy. I'm just like, hey everyone,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm doing all the time. I want to
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, what's everyone else doing? Like I
Speaker 1: have a problem with that, and so I respect people
Speaker 1: who can do that, but especially in her case, where
Speaker 1: it's like there's so much being put out there about
Speaker 1: her and about their relationship, and by just being herself,
Speaker 1: this lovely, wonderful person that everybody cares for, it's like winning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I it's very interesting to me because
Speaker 4: like for our show, for our jobs, we need people
Speaker 4: to be messy, we need them to talk, we need
Speaker 4: them to really not be good at pr because also
Speaker 4: we do have an ethos where it's not you know,
Speaker 4: gossip is in the title, but it's not a salacious show.
Speaker 4: You know, we're not out there airing people's business or
Speaker 4: if someone is a private person, we're like, okay, god,
Speaker 4: but if you're talking, then it's a fair game to
Speaker 4: talk about you. And I my personal ethos is always like,
Speaker 4: don't say anything, and Allie's not saying anything.
Speaker 5: But then, but I don't want athletes to know that.
Speaker 4: We need them to keep talking, keeping and everybody.
Speaker 1: If everybody did that, it'd be so boring. So you're welcome.
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly messy, but I am always talking about
Speaker 1: while we're on the topic of launches soft, medium and
Speaker 1: hard Unrivaled player and New Phoenix Mercury player, saw too,
Speaker 1: sobbly hard launched a relationship that she's not in here
Speaker 1: she is doing an interview on the bench in the
Speaker 1: middle of an Unrivaled game. Take a listen. She was
Speaker 1: actually supposed to have off today and be you know
Speaker 1: what her girlfriend's Jersie retirement is about, Harrison. So, thank
Speaker 1: you so much Natasha that you just said. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: of course Saw to talking about Natasha Cloud and then
Speaker 1: Isabelle Harrison. So what are the rules on hard launching
Speaker 1: someone else's relationship for them? Charlotte, Oh, you don't do it.
Speaker 4: Although it is funny that Unrivaled that which is in Miami,
Speaker 4: and it is like Miami is the hub of other
Speaker 4: people hard launching other people's relationships because the mayor of
Speaker 4: Miami accidentally hard launched Asia dam when she gave them
Speaker 4: the key of the city.
Speaker 5: Like someone's in the water.
Speaker 2: Something they know that heart Okay, I think yeah, definitely
Speaker 2: a lot of okay, yeah, definitely a hard pass on
Speaker 2: hard launching someone else's relationship without their permission. I mean
Speaker 2: that is, unless you're Perez Hilton, which I don't think
Speaker 2: Perez Hilton should be.
Speaker 1: Doing that either. Well, that's a name from the past throwback.
Speaker 2: I'm like, don't do that unless you have been given permission,
Speaker 2: don't do that. And also I feel like that goes
Speaker 2: against media training one on one what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: People? Yeah? What are we doing?
Speaker 5: She that was a good idea.
Speaker 4: I would have been so mortified if I were sat.
Speaker 4: She probably felt so bad.
Speaker 1: She probably thought it was like out or like didn't
Speaker 1: realize that, Like the way they talked about it around
Speaker 1: the dinner table at Unrivaled didn't mean that everybody knew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, hilarious. See. I would say in general,
Speaker 1: probably don't launch other people's relationships, although again, please keep
Speaker 1: doing it. Ye stop.
Speaker 5: It's also for us don't do it, but don't not
Speaker 5: do it right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all have ever listened to Jocular.
Speaker 1: It is an absolutely hilarious podcast about women's sports hosted
Speaker 1: by three queer folks, and they suggested that they would
Speaker 1: like to see an Unrivaled singles show, a reality show
Speaker 1: taking place in Miami during the eight week season. They
Speaker 1: rattled off like as many of the queer participants that
Speaker 1: they could find and guessed at a percentage well above
Speaker 1: fifty percent, and thought it would be fun to film.
Speaker 1: This is in arguably a fantastic idea. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to ask you your opinion. We can all agree that
Speaker 1: we would watch this. My question is there a better
Speaker 1: league for this? Because I think if I give you Unrivaled,
Speaker 1: I would struggle to have you top a better league
Speaker 1: for the in season reality dating.
Speaker 4: Show, I think, I mean, I would kill for that
Speaker 4: for the wa But because Unrivaled is in one place,
Speaker 4: it's it's perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's perfect. It's a perfect setting. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's anything better. No, No, I think that's it.
Speaker 1: And it's Miami.
Speaker 2: So again, yeah, they're going out, they're.
Speaker 1: Going out, they're going club, and everyone's wearing as little
Speaker 1: clothes as possible because it's hot out.
Speaker 2: It's Miami, it's Miami, it's twenty all the time.
Speaker 1: It just feels that feels right. But I would also
Speaker 1: watch a women's footy version of this show.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to say that that would be
Speaker 2: my second one. I feel like if they were going
Speaker 2: to do a women's soccer version, I actually think i'd
Speaker 2: like it more during the World Cup. Yeah, same, because
Speaker 2: they're all kind of in one place. I mean, I
Speaker 2: want a dating show about the Olympic village, period.
Speaker 1: Of course, they would all have to be after competition ends.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone that's messing up their Olympic dream
Speaker 1: for some tale, So let me show that tale. Like
Speaker 1: all the Olympians I've talked to and I have had
Speaker 1: these conversations. That's like one of the first things I
Speaker 1: ask Olympian friends is like, I just congrats on whatever boat.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the Olympic village and the condoms and
Speaker 1: how much sex you had and were they from your
Speaker 1: team or did you find athletes from another team? And
Speaker 1: they have the best stories from after they compete. They
Speaker 1: always like to stick around a couple extra days for
Speaker 1: the extracurriculars.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what's interesting me about the idea of this
Speaker 4: unrivaled dating show is that it would get things would
Speaker 4: bleed onto the court in a way that like, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure they already are like, I'm sure some of
Speaker 4: this is clearly happening, but like I feel like the
Speaker 4: league would be like, yeah, no.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna we can't.
Speaker 4: This is a little too close to our actual product, and.
Speaker 1: If they knew we were watching it, they might get
Speaker 1: a little messier. Like if they know now it's behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, they have to pretend on the court, whereas
Speaker 1: if they know it's out there, then it's like, you know.
Speaker 4: I did see a tweet yesterday before the Super Bowl
Speaker 4: where someone was like, I wish that sports were like
Speaker 4: reality shows where they have confessionals halfway through, So like
Speaker 4: you could do that with Unrivaled, Like you could see it,
Speaker 4: you know, halftime, and you take one of them aside
Speaker 4: and you're like so and she's like, well, I had
Speaker 4: to pass the ball. We're in a fight, and I'm pissed.
Speaker 4: But she scored, so I guess that's good.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of like those a brilliant idea. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they already do the in game interviews with coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just add another layer to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: This is a brilliant idea. And I'm sure they were
Speaker 1: thinking about that because they were doing close ups of
Speaker 1: all the players on the Chiefs as they were getting
Speaker 1: absolutely routed.
Speaker 4: Right, it's Chris Jones just crying and yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: someone said Patrick Mahomes looked like a haunted porcelain doll
Speaker 4: like this dick in his eyes.
Speaker 5: We said, he looked like you saw a ghosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that confessional midway through, so you're getting you're
Speaker 1: getting beat like thirty three to nothing. It would be incredible,
Speaker 1: It would be good. Okay, So the women's soccer show
Speaker 1: that would work for that is the off season. Midge
Speaker 1: Purse executive producer and was a member of the players
Speaker 1: that were in this house again in Miami. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you watched it, but it was fantastic. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of like, you know, the dating stuff in there,
Speaker 1: but we could bump that up on purpose. And during
Speaker 1: that show they actually talked about a chart that a
Speaker 1: fan made showing the links between players who have dated
Speaker 1: in women's soccer. Just a taste of this. You can
Speaker 1: plug in a player's name and then it shows them
Speaker 1: like a circle with all all the lines to planets
Speaker 1: around them that they have either dated or their ex
Speaker 1: or they're married. Australia Sam Kerr currently engaged to US
Speaker 1: player Christy Mwis, whose ex is England's Rachel Daily, who
Speaker 1: apparently has the thing for fellow soccer players because she's
Speaker 1: got all sorts of exes on the board. So Christy
Speaker 1: mwis is current girlfriend and ex girlfriend faced off in
Speaker 1: the semi finals. Is the last World Cup, with England
Speaker 1: ultimately getting to win. But Sam Kurr's ex American pro
Speaker 1: player Nikki Stanton dated Meghan Rappino's twin Rachel, who also
Speaker 1: dated friend of the show mery At Matthias. Also Meghan
Speaker 1: Rappino and Abby Wombach dated. Where was I what? Okay?
Speaker 4: You just blew our You just got to sit the
Speaker 4: first time a whole episode for you? You know this
Speaker 4: is so you sent us this link before the show.
Speaker 4: I hadn't seen it, and I typed in Ali Krieger
Speaker 4: and my mind exploded because Jen Batty, she's got a
Speaker 4: couple ex'es on there, like especially the older the players are,
Speaker 4: the more time they've had to So no, this, what
Speaker 4: you just said was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that for every every league?
Speaker 1: Could we do you imagine fair or foul though? Making
Speaker 1: charts like that? First of all, Madeline, if the connections
Speaker 1: are based off rumors, do we need to have a
Speaker 1: different color line or like a squiggle?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think a squiggle because that feels more questionable.
Speaker 1: Right, It's like a little bit more fair, Like, we
Speaker 1: know we're a little bit pushing it by post by
Speaker 1: posting this rumor, but also we're telling you it's a rumor,
Speaker 1: take it with a great assault.
Speaker 2: But I think they should be included. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 2: it is important for cultural.
Speaker 1: History, yeah, anthropological reasons. Yes, But Charlotte, what if we
Speaker 1: don't know if the players are out or.
Speaker 4: Not, that is probably not great because that should be
Speaker 4: something that is completely on their terms. So I guess
Speaker 4: if there's a rumor that involves someone who you're not
Speaker 4: sure how public they are about their sexuality, maybe we hold.
Speaker 1: Off or slide to their DMS and be like, pardon me, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you comfortable with acknowledgment that you are queer by gay? Whatever?
Speaker 5: Can I put you on this chart?
Speaker 4: And they'd be like what They're like, no, please, don't
Speaker 4: put me on a chart, on any chart.
Speaker 5: I don't care what I am.
Speaker 1: But what if you were single and you were struggling
Speaker 1: to meet someone and you were like, maybe if.
Speaker 4: I'm on the chart, Oh yeah, I think that chart
Speaker 4: probably has facilitated more relationships than we realized.
Speaker 2: Or if someone is looking into someone they're newly dating
Speaker 2: and they're like, let me see who else they dated.
Speaker 2: I can reference a chart.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if you had that chart just for
Speaker 4: people like you in your own life, in your own life,
Speaker 4: if you're like, oh this, like, oh god, that sounds.
Speaker 1: I didn't need it. I met like seven people my
Speaker 1: husband used to date, like within the first two months
Speaker 1: of dating. I'm like, what's your deal? Like why are
Speaker 1: they all always wherever we are? And then I was
Speaker 1: like mad because I'm like, damn, I dated all my
Speaker 1: people in California, so you don't have to run into
Speaker 1: any of them, right, And then later one of them
Speaker 1: started working next to our apartment building. I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to manifest that that was Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was fun. It all worked out. But my husband's just
Speaker 1: very tall, and he acknowledges that like in your twenties,
Speaker 1: if you're a nice person and you're really tall, like
Speaker 1: you're just gonna you're gonna get a lot of dates
Speaker 1: as a do.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the way heterosexuality works for them. There's
Speaker 1: a whole uh don't like the guy, but the bit
Speaker 1: was good. Louis c k bit of like, if you're
Speaker 1: a tall dude, you just walk into a party and
Speaker 1: be like Uh, yeah, who wants to be like this
Speaker 1: is that simple? Anyway? This chart is truly mind blowing
Speaker 1: to your point. Uh, I can't, I can't decide. If
Speaker 1: we'll put it in our show notes, you'll find it.
Speaker 1: You'll be able to find it yourself without us facilitating
Speaker 1: your access to it, and you could plug in some
Speaker 1: names and see. I'm also fascinated by people who have
Speaker 1: just very wildly different taste because that's also my dating history.
Speaker 1: Like if you did line them all up on a chart,
Speaker 1: you'd be like interesting, yeah, no, tall, every kind of ethnicity,
Speaker 1: every kind of whatever. And there are certain people on
Speaker 1: the chart that you're like, oh cool, equal opportunity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can tell very quickly if someone has a
Speaker 5: type from that chart. From that you can you can
Speaker 5: also the tech behind it kind of blows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's someone code that chares.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. I love gosh, this is this is the
Speaker 1: best possible Valentine's Day conversation we could have. Do you
Speaker 1: guys have any new, fresh and steamy goss that you
Speaker 1: haven't even talked about on your show or that you
Speaker 1: want to break right here on the show.
Speaker 4: Oh god, Uh, I think we kind of emptied the Chamber.
Speaker 2: We do always talk about Jordan Hudson, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if you are. Are you well versed with Billeck's girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, and I'm troubled for both of them.
Speaker 2: We are exactly sure what's going on. But I think
Speaker 2: what's been more interesting, and we were just talking about this,
Speaker 2: is that she was in the Dunkin Donuts super Bowl
Speaker 2: commercial with Ben Affleck, which is just such an incredible
Speaker 2: ascension to be in a super Bowl ad with Ben Affleck.
Speaker 4: Yes, the okay, the Boston and me like imploded in
Speaker 4: on itself when I saw that, because I was like, also.
Speaker 5: Didn't know Jeremy Strong was from Boston, didn't either, wild.
Speaker 4: But I think that there is she We said this
Speaker 4: on the show after the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: But she's playing the game and she's winning it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: For those who don't know, this is a twenty four
Speaker 1: year old I want to say, grad student.
Speaker 5: It's unclear.
Speaker 1: It's unclear. Maybe I'm just thinking that because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of jokes about how Bill Belichick took a
Speaker 1: college job so that he could get her into the school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so maybe that none of that is real. But
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is seventy two former longtime head coach of
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, multiple times Super Bowl winner, was
Speaker 1: it one time considered one of the greatest coaches of
Speaker 1: all time, but then since they sucked after Tom Brady
Speaker 1: left and Tom Brady won without him, now there's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about who is really responsible for all
Speaker 1: their success. But anyway, notoriously curmudgeonly and is dating this
Speaker 1: twenty four year old girl who is like publicity hound.
Speaker 1: So in all the clips you see where they're not
Speaker 1: staged for a commercial or something else or a photo
Speaker 1: where he's like reading off Taylor's swift lyrics or doing
Speaker 1: other things that seem in congress to who he would
Speaker 1: be if he was not dating this twenty five year
Speaker 1: old he looks sad and angry, and she's posing for photos.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she yeah, she is performing. She is performing
Speaker 2: for those cameras every chance she gets.
Speaker 4: We think she's executing on a plan here with.
Speaker 1: A little better playbook than Bill.
Speaker 5: Truly, she's calling the show.
Speaker 4: She's on the offensive, and it's working, and it's working, working,
Speaker 4: and it's working, and it's just wild to see the difference.
Speaker 4: As Madeline said on our show, Bill's just down bad
Speaker 4: he's down bad.
Speaker 1: He's down bad. Somebody said, it's nice to see Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick getting his granddaughter, I mean girlfriend a job in
Speaker 1: the new Duncan commercial. Now listen age is just a number.
Speaker 1: Well sure, but also for me you said she's winning, yes,
Speaker 1: in some aspects. And also what I always think about,
Speaker 1: and this is a mean thing to think, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna to, you know, be honest, since this is
Speaker 1: the Sports Gossip Takeover and I'm a completely different host
Speaker 1: at this moment. What I always think about when I
Speaker 1: think about, like cool for them, they're in the dunkin
Speaker 1: ad and they're getting to do all these cool things
Speaker 1: and they're getting to be famous. Is at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, this game ends with you having sex
Speaker 1: with a seventy two year old man. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to win that game. No, I would rather lose
Speaker 1: the game. I don't. I don't want to be in
Speaker 1: the game. I don't. Yeah, I'd rather even play the game.
Speaker 5: No game she is.
Speaker 4: She's winning the game that she is playing for herself,
Speaker 4: is how I would put it. She set out, she
Speaker 4: made a little board game, and she's playing it, and.
Speaker 5: The rest of us might not play that game. I
Speaker 5: also do.
Speaker 4: I just I can't help but feel for Bill Belichick's ex,
Speaker 4: Linda Holiday, who he was with since two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4: Bill met Jordan in twenty twenty one, and Linda and
Speaker 4: Bill broke up in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: And it's like the timeline.
Speaker 4: I don't know, and so I and she, you know,
Speaker 4: she was around, she was we had to Bill Belichick
Speaker 4: Foundation together for you know, and.
Speaker 1: He has three kids. I guarantee they're all older or
Speaker 1: older there, I am. Yeah, that's listen to your point.
Speaker 1: It's a sort of hate the game, not the player.
Speaker 1: So I do hate that game, and yet the player
Speaker 1: is thriving in it, And anyone who plays that game
Speaker 1: has to clearly not have that big of a problem
Speaker 1: with the whole sex, with the old person part of it,
Speaker 1: which for me would be the reason I don't get
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think we're all on the same page.
Speaker 4: The reason I would not pass go I would not
Speaker 4: collect two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: On this show, we always tell people we wanted to
Speaker 1: get in the game every day, but not this game. No,
Speaker 1: feel free to pass on this. Everybody, go listen to
Speaker 1: the Sports Gossip Show as you can tell these two
Speaker 1: co hosts are a blast and they're giving you all
Speaker 1: the good stuff that some of which we can't talk
Speaker 1: about here, but we sure got into a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Thank you both for joining us. This was super fun.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Sarah. We love what you're doing.
Speaker 5: Love the show. And anytime you need someone else to
Speaker 5: say stuff.
Speaker 1: We're here. Oh yeah, oh, this will be perfect. We'll
Speaker 1: have a segment where I just outsourced things that I
Speaker 1: want to say and then you guys pop in and.
Speaker 5: Say, yes, yeah, exactly. Just text us be like can
Speaker 5: you say this and this, and.
Speaker 4: We're like, absolutely, I heard a rumor from Sarah exactly.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. Thanks ladies, Thanks so much to
Speaker 1: Charlotte and Madeline for joining us. So fun. We got
Speaker 1: to take another break. When we come back, we hear
Speaker 1: all about who use slices? Want to send love to
Speaker 1: this Valentine's Day, don't go anywhere. Welcome back slices. It's
Speaker 1: time for another What the fact we mentioned in yesterday's
Speaker 1: show that the US Department of Education released a statement
Speaker 1: announcing that Title nine does not apply to name image
Speaker 1: and likeness deals. We're sending the Biden administration's guidance that
Speaker 1: schools must equitably distribute direct payments to male and female athletes.
Speaker 1: Now this is especially important because of the upcoming payments
Speaker 1: ESPN's PAULA. Levine quote. The NCAA and its power conferences
Speaker 1: have agreed to allow each school to share up to
Speaker 1: twenty and a half million dollars in direct payments to
Speaker 1: its athletes via NIL deals as one of the terms
Speaker 1: of appending antitrust settlement. Many major college athletic departments plan
Speaker 1: to distribute the majority of that money to athletes and
Speaker 1: sports that generate the most revenue, mostly football and men's
Speaker 1: basketball players, leaving a small portion, often less than five percent,
Speaker 1: to women's sports end quote. So this Trump administration ruling
Speaker 1: makes the world of NIL, which has already disproportionally served
Speaker 1: mail athletes, even more lopsided, just as more big money
Speaker 1: is entering the space. According to a Front Office Sports
Speaker 1: article in October of last year, quote, among the twelve
Speaker 1: schools publicly disclosing NIL earnings by gender, menifirmed ninety two
Speaker 1: million dollars compared to women's nineteen million dollars, with some
Speaker 1: institutions like Texas A and M reporting ninety eight percent
Speaker 1: of NIL deals going to men's sports. End quote. This is,
Speaker 1: of course, even though we know that there's research that
Speaker 1: shows that women athletes will work harder for their brands,
Speaker 1: care more about the product that they put out, have
Speaker 1: a better brand affinity and ability to sell for those brands,
Speaker 1: and are at their peak earning during their college years.
Speaker 1: The disparity and institutional support the sports specific collectives for
Speaker 1: things like football and men's basketball working only for those athletes,
Speaker 1: and the plan to distribute money unequally between men's and
Speaker 1: women's sports teams violate the principles of Title nine, even
Speaker 1: if the law couldn't explicitly speak to things like nil
Speaker 1: when it was written fifty years ago. This is bad
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Speaker 1: You might recall that a few days ago we asked
Speaker 1: you to send us platonic Valentine voicemails about your favorite
Speaker 1: women's sports figures, and y'all did not disappointed. There are
Speaker 1: way too many to play them all, but here are
Speaker 1: a few of our faves. First up, Amy from Maine.
Speaker 7: This year, I'm sending Valentines to Stei and Fee for
Speaker 7: creating Unrivaled. I absolutely love it. It is getting me through
Speaker 7: the winter. I'm grateful to them for creating it.
Speaker 1: We are grateful to them too. All right, here's Amanda
Speaker 1: from Denver.
Speaker 8: I would like to send my Valentine's love out to
Speaker 8: for her college women's basketball coach, Vivian Stringer. When I
Speaker 8: was sixteen, I was in a car accident and I
Speaker 8: sustained a spinal cord injury, and at that time I
Speaker 8: was being recruited to play college basketball. She was coaching
Speaker 8: at the University of Iowa, and while I was in
Speaker 8: the hospital, she sent me a handwritten letter with a
Speaker 8: note of encouragement. Due to my injury, it was pretty
Speaker 8: clear that I wasn't going to be a archive or
Speaker 8: return to playing the game. That I really loved that
Speaker 8: she took the time to do this. Her kindness that
Speaker 8: she showed in that letter really lifted me up. And
Speaker 8: to this day I still have that letter and pull
Speaker 8: it out the time or two when needed to motivate
Speaker 8: me to, you know, keep that great at the gym.
Speaker 8: And this is in a sense why I am so
Speaker 8: dedicated and love women's supports so much, is that I
Speaker 8: think personal realities and people like her still exist in
Speaker 8: her out there even though she's retired.
Speaker 1: Big fans of coach Stringer over here too. Her memoir
Speaker 1: Standing Tall, a Memoir of Tragedy and Triumph, is one
Speaker 1: of the books on our Good Game Book Club list.
Speaker 1: You should read it if you haven't already. Moving on,
Speaker 1: let's hear from.
Speaker 6: Jacob Hi Sarah, I'm the biggest how her Felt fan
Speaker 6: on the Internet, and I wanted to give my Valentine
Speaker 6: platonically to her. I wanted to tell her how much
Speaker 6: he inspires me and how proud I am of her
Speaker 6: and her accomplishments both with the Spirit and with the
Speaker 6: national team. And I can't wait to see her do
Speaker 6: even more great things going forward.
Speaker 2: All right, last Valentine, my name is Veron roh.
Speaker 3: My platonic roundtany is for Katie Radeki. My mom bought
Speaker 3: me her book Just add Water because she says, I'm
Speaker 3: happy as skipped and chlorine. I started this season with
Speaker 3: the goal of getting one race two silvery time, and
Speaker 3: I'm close. I've got four grand and I found out
Speaker 3: yesterday my coaches are moving me up levels anyway, Kaye
Speaker 3: has to work two day goals and I am y'all.
Speaker 1: Can you believe the Diana Ross called into the show
Speaker 1: and she's got endless love for Katie Ledecki. Turn up
Speaker 1: the sunshine, y'all. What a treat. Thanks again for sending
Speaker 1: us those voicemail slices. We know we asked for those specifically,
Speaker 1: but don't be afraid to send them just any time
Speaker 1: when there's something on your mind. We love to hear
Speaker 1: from you, and if you're come with it, let us
Speaker 1: know your name and where you're from. We love that
Speaker 1: you're listening, but we want you to get in the
Speaker 1: game every day too. So here's our good game play
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Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 10: I definitely do. I want to see a show about
Speaker 10: all of the relationships between US and Canadian women's hockey
Speaker 10: players for people that are new to the space. Maybe
Speaker 10: you don't know this, but like the US and Canadians
Speaker 10: they hate each other, like so much they hate each other,
Speaker 10: and yet we have at least three relationships between players
Speaker 10: that played for their respective teams and then married or
Speaker 10: dated across the border.
Speaker 1: Had kids, And like, that's a good one.
Speaker 10: I want to see it kind of like a reality show.
Speaker 10: But I would also really settle for a daytime drama
Speaker 10: like with reenactments and like.
Speaker 1: Riah, oh boy, oh pucks and gay shit. We do
Speaker 1: need some more coverage on that, Like the rivalry between
Speaker 1: country is so much bigger than just like playing on
Speaker 1: different WNBA teams. Like that is good. I want to
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