WEBVTT - Group Chat: Socially Acceptable Drama with Charlotte Wilder and Madeline Hill 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're screaming 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.200 a happy Valentine's Day. Whether you're single, partnered, or just 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.920 loving yourself and don't need nobody else, We're sending you 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.320 some show love and a special shout out to my Valentine, 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.840 whose actual name is Valentine. Love you BJBZ. It's Friday, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.119 February fourteenth, and in honor of Valentine's Day, we'll be 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.439 chatting with the co host of The Sports Gossip Show, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:28.240 Charlotte Wilder and Madeline Hill about NEPO Hubbies, relationship, medium launches, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.920 our faith, sportelebrity couples, and how their show challenges stereotypes 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.640 for women in sports media. Plus unrivaled crowns The One 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.800 Tonight League One Vibs is bringing young and seasoned volleyballers 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.520 together and you slices send out some platonic Valentine's Day love. 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:56.280 It's all coming up right after this Welcome back, Happy Friday. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:00.880 Here's what you need to know today. College athletics news. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.000 The NCAA Committee on Women's Athletics is recommending that flag 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.720 football be added to the organization's Emerging Sports for Women program. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.840 The recommendation allows Divisions one, two, and three an opportunity 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.600 to sponsor legislation that would move flag football closer to 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.119 being considered for championship status. To officially hit that threshold, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.600 a sport must have at least forty schools sponsoring at 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.480 at a varsity level and meet minimum contest and participation requirements. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.120 At the moment, at least sixty five NCAA schools are 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.000 sponsoring flag at club or varsity levels. Flag football's popularity 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.200 is growing rapidly across the country, with fourteen states sanctioning 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.520 girls flag as a high school varsity sport, and it 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.800 will also be contested at the LA twenty twenty eight Olympics. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.120 In college hoops news, TCU women's basketball star and former 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.680 Oregon Dux player Sedona Prince is facing multiple allegations of 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.240 sexual assault, domestic violence, and sexual misconduct now. Rumors of 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.720 these allegations have been swrolling for months, but now there's 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.440 reporting from The Washington Post Molly Hensley Clancy. Per her findings, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.000 the earliest claim dates back to twenty nineteen, and the 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.720 most recent allegation came just last month, when Prince and 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.840 anex had an altercation that resulted in both parties reporting 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.360 domestic violence. Hensley Clancy story also notes that two of 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.799 Prince's accusers were asked to sign non disclosure agreements. Prince's attorney, A. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.120 Boon Almanza, told the Post that the twenty four year 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.440 old quote categorically denies that she has abused anyone in 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.320 her life, whether mentally, emotionally, or physically, and that quote, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.040 unfortunately others have decided to use Sodona as a launch 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.640 point for their careers end quote. Regarding the NDA's Almanza 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.360 said quote. In an effort to create some relationship privacy, 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.800 Sodona has asked girlfriends to sign non disclosure agreements because 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.079 their personal intimate moments should not be the subject of 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.520 public discussion. End quote. Prince is currently playing her last 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.280 year of college basketball at TCU. She played for Oregon 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.160 from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two. She gained mass 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.840 popularity on social media after posting a TikTok during the 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.600 twenty twenty one NCAA tournament that brought attention to a 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.880 lack of equity and facilities between the men's and women's tournaments. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.320 We'll link to that. Molly Hensley Clancy story in our 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.600 show notes and keep you updated as we learn more 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.680 about the situation. In WNBA news. Could a Charlotte expansion 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.720 team be on the horizon? A bid has officially been 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.519 submitted to bring a team back to the city. Erica Berman, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.880 an executive at financial services company card Works, is spearheading 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.240 the bid, backed by the MNBA Charlotte Hornets. The Charlotte 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.040 Sting was one of the original eight WNBA franchises, but 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.000 folded after the two thousand and six season. Worth noting. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.440 Earlier this month, the WNBA filed a trademark application for 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.200 the Charlotte Sting name, along with the Cleveland Rockers, Miami Soul, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.200 Houston Comets, and Detroit Shock Also, Commissioner Kathy Engelbert has 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.919 expressed her desire for a sixteen team league by twenty 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.320 twenty eight. League only needs one more to get there 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.760 to unrivaled. Tonight's the night the League quote unquote crowns 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.280 the one in its one on one tournament. The single 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.160 elimination semi final round kicks off with the Leah Edwards 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.640 versus Arigae Agunbowale at seven thirty Eastern, followed by Azaree 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.400 Stevens versus NEFISA Collier at seven forty five, and the 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.960 winners of those matchups will have very little time to 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.320 catch their breath before meeting in the finals at eight 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.200 pm Eastern, a best of three to crown the champ 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.040 the first few or any indication things could get real 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.040 spicy tonight. You can catch those games live on TNT 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.960 and True TV. More hoops news. The mnba's Celebrity All 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.880 Star Game is upon us, and some of our women's 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.960 sports faves are suiting' up. Olympic Track and Field gold 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.400 medalist Massi Russell, two time Atlanta Dream All Star Ali Shagray, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.680 and WNBA champion and Golden State Valkyries forward Kayla Thornton 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.760 will all hit the court alongside their celebrity counterparts. That 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.800 game tips off tonight seven pm Eastern on ESPN to lacrosse, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.440 there's one WL game on the slate Tonight. Round robin 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.080 play continues in the Lexus Championship Series with the battle 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.360 of one to oh teams. The California Palms face the 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.919 New York Charging at six pm Eastern, streaming on ESPN plus. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.760 The semi finals of the Women's Lcross League series start 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.600 on Sunday, and the final will be played on Monday. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.320 We'll link to that schedule in the show notes so 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.040 you can tune in to pro vibs. The League One 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.160 Volleyball Classics starts tonight. It's a three day tournament at 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.960 Municipal Arena and Kansas City, and all six Love teams 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.320 will compete Love Madison and Love Houston. Get Tonight's doubleheader 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.160 started at five Eastern, followed by Love Austin and Love 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.719 Salt Lake at eight pm Eastern. But before either of 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.240 those matches, Love will hold a pro camp during the 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.400 day with position specific training for juniors ages thirteen to 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.320 eighteen and get this, college coaches will be allowed court 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.320 side to recruit so much vibes and a super cool 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.839 opportunity for the youngsters. We'll link to the game schedule 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.839 for the weekend in our show notes. Back to the hardwood, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.720 there are two Monster College Hoops matchups coming up on Sunday. First, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.279 number seven Yukon rides their two game win streak into 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.320 a big test against the number four South Carolina game Cocks. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.520 That one's at one pm Eastern on ABC, and no 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.120 time to breathe because immediately following that game, number five 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.680 LSU squares off against number three Texas, also on ABC. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.200 Get your popcorn ready. There's also a bunch of other 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.040 ranked teams in action this weekend, so we'll link to 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.200 the full schedule in our show notes. There's more vibes 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.200 hockey and hoops going on tonight and over the weekend 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.760 in the PVF, PWHL, and AU Pro Basketball, so we'll 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.039 link to that comprehensive sports calendar from Slice Joey in 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.559 our show notes, we got to take a quick break. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.360 When we come back, it's time to dish on all 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.360 the hot goss with Charlotte Wilder and Madeline Hill see 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:18.600 on the other side. It's been a while, y'all, but 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.960 it's time for another group chat where we take the 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.400 tea from the text and we bring it to the airwaves. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.000 Joining us now, she's co host of The Sports Gossip Show, 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.160 a weekly podcast that gives you a courtside seat to 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.400 the latest drama and most interesting news about athletes, leagues 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.960 and teams. Formerly of Meadow Arc Media, Fox Sports, Sports, Illustrated, 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.800 Sponation USA Today and more. She's got a substack called 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.480 The Wilder Things, the Best Hair in the Game, and 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.680 she enjoys tinned fish. It's Charlotte Wilder. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.279 Thanks for joining us, Sarah, Hello, how are you? 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.560 I'm good? Thank you joining her? The other co host 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.600 of the Sports Gossip Show and writer of the newsletter 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.359 in Personal Foul. She has previous stops at Ways, Hello, Sunshine, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.240 Entertainment Weekly, CIA, and more. She went back to school 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.720 recently to get her Masters from Oxford, where she also 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.839 did improv. She loves buttered noodles and fit checks. It's 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.680 Madeline Hill. What's up, Madeline? 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:07.960 Hi? 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.880 Wow, the best intro we've ever heard. Also, the list 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.160 of places I've worked is like, oh my gosh. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.320 And I could have gone on, as you know, I 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.640 stopped and I was like, I'm not going to. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.080 Say all yeah, no, thanks. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.080 I would like to do a separate show with you 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.200 where we just do like pros and cons of every 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.720 single place, and you're like, best cafeteria, worst colleagues, best 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:34.080 HR policy, place to right. Yeah, well sure it. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.320 Would be interesting, absolutely, Sarah. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.480 Maybe we should wait until you change industries before we 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.360 get too honest. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.760 Wait until I start my Florist cookbook store in Maine, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.920 and then I will tell you everything perfect perfect. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.040 I'm taking that as a promise down the road, when 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.640 we're both washed and no one who cares anymore, we'll 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.080 finally spill all the real tea beautiful. I love it. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.400 Madeline tell us how this show came to be the 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.360 sports gossip show. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.920 So this show grew out of my sub second personal foul. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.680 I found that there was a gap in sports coverage 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.120 that covered stories off the field. I always joked that 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.400 I would look at the Wikipedia Personal Life section of 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.480 athletes during sporting events because I was like, who are 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.960 they married to, who'd they get divorced from? What weird 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.400 endorsement deals do they have? What does their Instagram presence 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.040 look like? And felt like no one was covering these 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.800 very important topics that I needed someone to write about. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.480 So I was like, I'm gonna write about them myself, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.720 and so that started in twenty twenty. It kind of 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.880 snowballed and grew from there, and then Charlotte actually wrote 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.160 something for my newsletter. It was all about NBA gossip. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.640 I think it was around the NBA Finals. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:39.480 I think it was. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.520 Yeah, you asked it was like your favorite piece of 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.600 gossip from the twenty four season, and I was like, well, obviously, 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:49.240 when James Harden skipped Joel Embiid's wedding of course, yeah. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:49.880 Most important. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.320 Yes, And then we were on a two hour phone 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.880 call and we're like, wait, I think we could turn 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.079 this into a podcast. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.320 Yeah, And had you met before? 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:57.720 No? 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.240 Wow, I love that you just hit it up off. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:01.160 We just hit it off. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.640 And then we met in person for the first time 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.080 in September, which is kind of crazy. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.440 Yeah, we started planning the show maybe June May June, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.120 because I think we both, you know, have been in 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.840 entertainment and media long enough that when we got on 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.520 the phone and there was the same level of like, Okay, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.080 you're buttoned up in this way, you want these certain things, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.120 like there's a professionalism that we both care about, and 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.800 we were just like cracking each other up on the phone. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.000 We were like, you know what, let's just let's do it. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.280 Yeah. I love that. You know, Charlotte, one of the 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.079 things I really love and respect about you is that you, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.200 since you entered the business, have been very willing to 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.360 sort of stand in the face of some stereotypical criticisms 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.840 of women that they aren't enough about x's and o's. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.720 You came in and you were like, I love sports. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.880 I also have never like studied them to be an expert. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.920 I just want to talk about the fun stuff, or 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.640 I want to do really cool videos where I'm embedded 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.880 with every college team and learning their traditions and I 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.360 get to be in the marching band one day and 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.840 a cheerleader the next. Like, there is so much of 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.560 that that's allowed for men in this space, and for 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.280 such a long time, there was a real fear as 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.480 a woman in the industry that if you admitted to 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.120 caring about things outside of whether that you know, Cover 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.800 two worked, that people would doubt you and you wouldn't 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.559 find a home. And you have always found a home 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.839 and thrived at that. So this feels like such a 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.880 natural space for you to enjoy. Well, I'm like going 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.839 to tear up. That's so sweet, Sarah. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.800 I think I do think that that's you know, when 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.840 I saw Madeline's newsletter, I was like, oh my god, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.520 she put a name to like what I've enjoyed doing 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.280 the most in my career, which is sports gossip, which 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.079 is the human side of this, and we you know, 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.000 I I think like in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.640 I pitched an idea for a podcast called First Date, 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.120 where I was like, for people who don't know sports 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.160 but are going on a date with someone who loves sports, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.760 and for people who don't know pop culture but are 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.600 going on a date with that, And all these mail 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.920 execs were like, no one's going to listen to that, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.000 And so to see our show blow up with Madeline's 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.760 brilliant has just been like the most validating. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:07.360 It's very validating. Yeah, Yeah, And I also think there's 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.840 something to be said for how you do it. When 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.960 I heard someone describe professional wrestling like WWE wrestling, not 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:20.079 wrestling wrestling, as soap operas for men, I was like, yeah. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.040 And when we started talking about the NBA off season 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.400 being more popular than the games because it was about 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.040 which players were trying to woo, which guys to switch teams, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.040 and how free agency was working, and how men were 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.480 essentially soaking that up the way women stereotypically soak up 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.920 soap opera storylines. It's all about framing. When we talk 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.280 about the things women like in sports, quote unquote women 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.199 and it's all stereotypes and it's all you know, can't 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.520 be categorized in such a way, but it has been. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.440 It's always with judgment. But on the men's side, it's like, oh, 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.640 but they know they like that because it's like about sports. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.199 It's like, wa, wait, that's the exact same thing we're 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.840 talking about. You're just raming it differently. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.600 Yeah, we always say sports news is just like a 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.000 cover or for men to be it's okay for them 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.080 to talk about gossip. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.440 Yeah, it's socially acceptable gossip for men. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:07.760 Like that's what sport like trades. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.840 It is just like workplace drama that men are like, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.600 it's serious business, it's sports news, and it's like it's 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.760 gossip in the same way the role Housewives as gossip exactly. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.640 Also, Sarah, something that I think I did your show 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.640 in twenty nineteen, and you said something that has stuck 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.600 with me, which is the idea of how women, at 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:32.680 least of our generation, it felt like, stereotypically weren't socialized 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.400 to need to know things about sports. And I think 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.839 because before I started working in sports, like almost ten 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.400 years ago now, I wasn't in sports, I remembered what 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.840 it felt like to be cut out of those conversations. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.800 And so what we try to do is, you know, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.080 as we talk about the gossip as we talk about, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.040 you know, Bill Belichick and his twenty. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.400 Four year old girlfriend. We also talk. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.800 About the sport and the game and give qualifiers because 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.840 so much of it's media for men feels like not 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.040 for men. But that's kind of the undertone, right, like 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.360 this is for guy and they don't qualify, and it's 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.160 Andy Reid, it's not chiefs head coaching. Right, So many 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.439 more people out than could come in if they just 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.080 knew who these people were, right. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.120 We do that on our show a lot because we 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.360 both have people who are diehard women's sports fans and 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.199 people who want to know more, and so if it's 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.960 the simplest reminding them which player, which team, which sport, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.200 using the full name instead of always the acronyms, and 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.400 that allows them in, it's so worth doing. It's so 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.640 funny you said that. I literally just did an interview 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.680 where I was talking to someone about how, despite being 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.719 like a three sport athlete obsessed with sports, no one 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.400 ever talked to me about sports. I was not raised 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.360 to no x's and o's, or play Madden or do 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.800 any of the things. And it does make a difference. Okay, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.720 so on this show, we do love our sports goss, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.960 but because there is a dearth of legitimate, trusted sources 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.280 for women's sports news every single day, and by that 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.600 I mean we are the only one. We also have 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.199 to sort of have a reputation for getting things right 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.120 and it keeps us from running with rumors or getting 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.040 like too deep into the weeds with personal stuff for players. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.319 But you're our guests, so it's only right. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.120 So you say we can say the alleged, so. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.120 We can have the conversations we want to have. Venness 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.440 have it be about you saying it. I'd let you 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.120 flex all those sports goss muscles to the fullest extent 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.440 right here and especially today on Valentine's Day. So let's 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.560 get into some stories that you've talked about on the 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.160 show and maybe some you haven't. Your show covered the 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.720 early days of Las Vegas acistar Asia Wilson and her 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.080 Boo bam Audebio from the mnba's Miami Heat. You talked 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.400 about them before they went public, and we have also 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.880 been following along with them since the Winky Winky days 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.240 to their more open love story and we have a 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.720 nickname for them, Aposto bam uh. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.400 I love that. That's really good. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.280 Yeah, yeah, it is a both a punctuation joke and 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.440 a reference to the apostrophe in her name, which is great. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.440 What do you make of him being the first to 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.160 wear her signature shoe and again, Charlotte, Oh my god. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.000 I mean we've talked about this in the context of 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.760 we love a supportive boyfriend, we love a man who 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:15.600 look Asian Wilson, MVP of the w NBA bam Adebio, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.680 not the MVP of the m NBA. Good player, but like, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.760 she is so many worlds better in her sphere than 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.640 he is in his. That like, I think his not 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.920 being threatened by that, his being supportive, his wearing her shoe, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.880 his showing up for her in these ways that typically 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:38.040 you see women show up for their male you know, 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.200 the people there in relationships with it is just like 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.960 it's so good, it's so important, and it's just like, 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.880 look how much more fun you can have when you're 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.200 not threatened by your thread. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.080 I completely agree. I reposted immediately. I was like, obsessed 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.240 he's wearing the shoe. But then the part of me 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.640 was like, is it bad that he got to wear 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.440 her shoe in a game before she did? 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.240 Oh, that isn't hmm, that's not great. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:06.560 No, I don't think. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.080 I don't know that. I think it's just chronological. She's 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.840 not in unrivaled the wnbas and in season. So I 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.120 allow it because I love that it's part of the 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.640 promotional push. But part of me was like, oh my god, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.440 I'm obsessed. I love this, and I'm also like mmmm. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.240 And then we still had a man getting to wear 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.320 the shoe. Hurst that's fair, but that was hardened because 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.520 he was in a game against a guy wearing Sabrina 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.320 shoe and I was like, yes, bitches, take it over. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:34.920 Snatt exactly. Y'all dug into Sandy Brondelo, the coach of 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.360 the New York Liberty, having her husband as one of 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:42.080 her assistant coaches. Arizona College women's basketball head coach Adia Barnes, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.360 her husband is an assistant on her staff as well. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.160 We love to see it. You considered calling these guys 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.320 NEPO hubbies, but then you also solicited other ideas, Madeline, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:52.320 did you get any good ones? 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.080 You know, we didn't get any NEPO hubby ideas. I 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.480 feel like the narrative around the word NEPO is always 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.280 with NEPO babies. But I do feel like it's time 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.000 to change a narrative and let's have a conversation about 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.520 more NEPO husbands in different industries, because I feel like 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.720 the NEPO baby conversation is strictly in like the actor 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:15.800 actress World Maya Hawk, Ethan Hawk's daughter Dakota Johnson, who's 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:17.280 what's her name is, Donnie. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.320 Melanie Griffin, don Johnson. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.800 But I don't feel like there's enough of a conversation 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.840 around the NEPO hubbies, and maybe even NEPO baby conversation 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:26.320 in sports. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.560 I mean it comes there is for football because we're 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.119 all aware that somehow, and and like NASCAR and racing sports, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.960 where everybody's somebody's son. In football, they're like somebody, actually, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.280 I can't remember who wrote like a pretty decent expose 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.520 of the fact that every single lower level job at 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.119 the NFL and college is somebody's like son or nephew, right, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.120 and how they're like they're like, women don't want the jobs, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.480 and it's like no, their pipeline is literally like having 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.560 to have been born to you. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.320 It's like, yeah, no, Brian Schottenheimer failed to get a 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.760 head coaching job and then just got one at the 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.800 age of fifty because his dad was also I've read 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.320 about that one, but there's a lot I love the 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.880 NEPO hubby yeah role because like, in the same way 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.520 that Bam is supportive of Asia, it's in your job 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.920 description you were an assistant coach and she's the coach, right, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.960 so it means that something's got to be working there 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.199 in a way where he's like, cool, yeah, I'm supporting you. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:23.480 Yeah. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.639 There is a recent example though, of a NEPO hubby 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.840 is Madison Keys, the tennis player who won the Australian Open. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.480 Her husband Bjorn is her coach, so that I feel 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.879 like it is an interesting dynamic and also a NEPO 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.560 hubby adjacent storyline. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.240 Right, because how are we to be sure that he's 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.280 the most qualified, which is what we do for women 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.560 every time they get a job by relationship to someone 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.879 right is good at tennis. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.840 We can't even say his last name, so I. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.720 Don't know anything. I don't even know I don't even 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.680 know l I don't know anything about Bijorn, and I 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.000 don't want to slander him, but I do want to 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.240 give him the same treatment that like every woman has 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.480 ever gotten when she's hired for anything, Like, remember me 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.960 when there was the first ever quality control coach in 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.639 the NFL and everyone suddenly not only knew what a 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.480 quality control coach did, but also knew she wasn't qualified 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.720 despite having like thirteen years in the NFL. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.000 Right and like having quality control in her title. Yeah, 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.040 that's her whole job, right, qualified to qualify? 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.880 Thanks? Yeah, so sorry Bjorn, but like you have questions, right, questions. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.840 On one of our recent shows, we noted the retirement 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.200 of Scottish soccer player Jen Betty and mentioned that she 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.080 and US women's national team great Ali Kreeger medium launched 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.480 their relationship on Instagram. Jen posted on her insta story 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.680 around Thanksgiving, thankful for you, Happy Thanksgiving, My love at 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.320 Ali Kreeger, and Ali reposted it and added, you have 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.439