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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: flumbing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented

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Speaker 1: by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon gross Hey

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Speaker 1: live from the sb S WBC Mortgage studio and my apartments,

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Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. We are back. We're back to

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Speaker 1: from confess another one we did. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting used to this working from home thing, Fellas,

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Speaker 1: this is not this is not so bad. I have

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Speaker 1: actually been busier probably this past week than I have

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Speaker 1: since the season was over. There sometimes you get more

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Speaker 1: done web axes and oh yeah, Kurt, you're working on

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Speaker 1: the book. You've been just crazy busy. Yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: a magazine done one last week. It's has been one

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Speaker 1: of the busiest marches I've ever had. So it's just

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Speaker 1: good keeping busy. Yeah. What about you? What about you, Jesse?

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Speaker 1: Where you got if you Push you Up challenge? Um?

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Speaker 1: So I ended, I lost, but I did seventeen hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty five push ups in a week. Dang what like,

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Speaker 1: are you just like out there here? I take my

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Speaker 1: oh puss you got wanted me to take my shot

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Speaker 1: off and see the I can't see. We don't have that.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the four square feed. I need to

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Speaker 1: pull it up on the internet in the inter Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we need to pull that up on the internet. Jess,

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Speaker 1: I got, I got mine off, and maybe the fan

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Speaker 1: it up to you guys. You know, Jesse's got to

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Speaker 1: Carolina gear behind them, and Nate's got his jersey. Shannon

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Speaker 1: just got bare wall channing you and I. We need

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Speaker 1: to pull out our old look at that troupe. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: I see right here fellas. Man. It's just it's just

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Speaker 1: good to know that Jesse has buffed up and had

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Speaker 1: to give the charity. Is good that uh Shannon has

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Speaker 1: got full bare walls, and it's good to know that

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Speaker 1: court is still cheap. That's what It's great. What have

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Speaker 1: you been doing the past the time? Mate, I've been

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Speaker 1: chasing my wife around the house. You tell me that

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Speaker 1: you ain't been like this in years. I said, it

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Speaker 1: ain't nothing else to do, man, Now, natural all you

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Speaker 1: got a little assistance. No, no, no, man, no viagra. Man.

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Speaker 1: I ain't doing that viagra thing. Man, I gotta I

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Speaker 1: got a good imagination just then. I I'm an old man,

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Speaker 1: but I got a good imagination. Believe that. Believe that.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Uh, Kurt, your hair is looking Wow. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the at the at the view here look crazy. Huh.

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Speaker 1: I know my wife wants me to cut it. She

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Speaker 1: her near it. So I don't know. No, no it,

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Speaker 1: don't cut your hair, Kurt Man, it's too long to

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Speaker 1: get that back. Brother. Oh you're telling me, I know.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little football. We actually, you

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Speaker 1: know what, shout out to Matt kent Man for for

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Speaker 1: getting this technology that we have that is allowing us

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Speaker 1: to broadcast. You tell my I robot, I robot behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. Yeah. We Uh. He's actually got commercial breaks

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Speaker 1: for us and everything, so we're gonna be somewhat back

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Speaker 1: to normal. He is this show, so his logic is undeniable. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little a little football, Kurt. What's the

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Speaker 1: latest the Dak Prescott negotiations? What have you been hearing?

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Speaker 1: We lost you what is the latest, Yeah, we lost you.

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Speaker 1: I guess we lost you many the latest out Kurt.

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Speaker 1: He may have been asking about Dak Prescott Um. He's

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Speaker 1: the two sides are still negotiating. Um kind of like

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Speaker 1: we talked about before, the years might be Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: But Dak's side is saying, hey, one, you're not going

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Speaker 1: higher average, and possibly a few years. Cowboys are offering five.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Dak's people were looking more like four.

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Speaker 1: multi year deals when this new TV revenue deal is

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Speaker 1: three years, four years. You're either gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: one or two things. You're either gonna have to tear

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Speaker 1: where forty million dollars a year won't sound like some

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Speaker 1: That's wealth. That's a life changing money right there. It

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Speaker 1: took guys like you know, Tom Brady and pay Man.

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Speaker 1: The hold up is on the on the cowboys side.

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Speaker 1: Why why are they This is your guy. You've already

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Speaker 1: established that you you you painted yourself in this corner

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Speaker 1: you have no wiggle room. What's the hold up? Why

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Speaker 1: to escalate the like deal, you know, where their contracts

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Speaker 1: But they also want to be able to sign other guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but they they want us to believe, as fans,

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Speaker 1: and y'all correct me wrong, that they own a budget

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Speaker 1: Jesse's continue to say this thing for the skyrocket and

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Speaker 1: But they don't want them, you know, say, Okay, we

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Speaker 1: I think they love to negotiate part of it, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: to hit the bank. Then for the Cowboys, you know,

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Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. The problem is, as Jesse

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Speaker 1: even playing into Dak's hands more because you know, Jesse

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a new system, new coach

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Speaker 1: knew you know how that works. And Dak's just got

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Speaker 1: Well some quarterback ends. Let's play some quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: work them out. You can't you can't even bring quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: was already hard for him to get him to do things,

426
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: but now you really close the door on that. So

427
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: it's just each individual player, and Dak don't want to

428
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: do too much because he sees this situation is you know,

429
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Dak, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do

430
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: the minimal and then I'm then I'm gonna not do

431
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: the other things because I want to. I want to

432
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: impress upon them to them that I am about this

433
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: business of getting a new contract too. Do you think

434
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: that that you know, we talked earlier about how the

435
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: situation in the country right now is kind of benefiting

436
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: Deck's leverage, But do you think him and other players

437
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: like him face the backlash because so many people are

438
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: struggling and here they are quivering over millions and millions

439
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: of dollars? Now you know, I'm y'all know me. I

440
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: knowrmally don't have a lot to say about this right here,

441
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you. Can

442
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: tell you to check your own souls. If you was

443
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: in this situation, what would you do? See, it ain't

444
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: about each person has the own gotta deal with what's

445
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: in my house. Jesse's dealing with what's in this house.

446
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Challenge just move and dealing with in his house. You

447
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: have to just come through the things that you and

448
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: if and if money was there to be had, we

449
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: would all go and get it. So, yes, even though

450
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: people are struggling are bad times and without jobs, those

451
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: that have a business. Uh, they shall have to run

452
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: their businesses. They don't want to lose money. They don't

453
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: want to give up money either. So what do you

454
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: think about mister Jones, you know, is he's facing that

455
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: same backlash. Let's move on to uh Randall Cob and Jesse.

456
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: We still have you because I haven't heard you whatever? Okay, Well,

457
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: you know he's a force of reason. If I say

458
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: something wrong, believe me, Jesse's gonna cut a brother off.

459
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: He was quiet for a solid, solid three minutes. I

460
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything from Yeah, let's move on to h

461
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: Randall Co. He signed with Houston because he said, I

462
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: still don't have a ring, so I want to be

463
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: in a situation where I have that possibility. So is

464
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: that him just playing, you know, playing to the fans

465
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: in the community of Houston and saying that, hey, I'm

466
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: coming into a good situation or is that a is

467
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: that kind of a jab at the Cowboys organization where

468
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: he's moving on from here because he doesn't feel like

469
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: they're ready to win a ring. Now, how did you

470
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: guys take that? I take that that the Cowboys are

471
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna offer him in one year, five million dollar

472
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: deal and he got a multi year deal for a

473
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: lot more money in Houston, and he just got nine

474
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: million guarantees. Yeah, so his guaranteed money that he got

475
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: in Houston will supersede. Would he either got here for

476
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think he looked at that now. I

477
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: do think his decision he wished he could have waited

478
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: a little bit longer, because now that they've Hopkins, he's

479
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: looking at it like lad dang I lost a number one.

480
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: Maybe that means maybe that means he gets you want

481
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: to passes throw in his way, but trust him, believe

482
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, having a guy like a number one like

483
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: Hopkins where a lot of good piction will go to

484
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: and that office is one that like started a ball

485
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: down the field, I think he's like, man, I thought

486
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I had a good situation at you know, when having

487
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: a legit and certified number one. Outside not saying that

488
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: a Mario is not, I'm just saying Hopkins is one

489
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: of the best in the league. So, you know, But

490
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: to me, the whole thing for him is the money.

491
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: Like it was the money without a doubt. It has

492
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: nothing to do with who's ready to win, who's not

493
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: ready to win, Because if we're talking about who was

494
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: ready to win. I mean, there are other situations where

495
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: you could try to found your way to Kansas City

496
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: or maybe found your way back to Green Bay. If

497
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't about the dollar signs, he could have found

498
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: his way to other situations that have been much more

499
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: in line for winning right now. You know, New Orleans,

500
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, finding that slosh you know down there in

501
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know, for two three million dollars. But

502
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: when he got the numbers that he got from Houston,

503
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: then without without a shaddow of a doubt, he was

504
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: going out of Doallas and they weren't going to be

505
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: able to compete. Do you think though that the Cowboys

506
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: are what they've done in free agency so far? Guys

507
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: they brought bad guys, they've soned, guys, they've lost. Are

508
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: they getting closer to contending? They're getting closer again to

509
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Yeah? That see Fellas we worked for the

510
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, so we were more always on the positive side. So,

511
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: but last year was a disaster defensively, and guys that

512
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: were supposed to show up didn't show up at all. Offense,

513
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: didn't play big and big games, and so here we

514
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: sat hoping that uh that this that this team is

515
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: well put together, well coached. Jesse maintains that, you know,

516
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: the coaching will make us better. I'mna agree with him

517
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: whole holiday. Coaches should make us better. But we need players, brother,

518
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: and we need players on defense greatly, and we've addressed

519
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: it in the middle with the two signings. I think

520
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: we addressed that for this year. But we need some cornerbacks.

521
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: We addressed a little bit on the safety, but we

522
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: need some defensive players. We need some game changes. Do

523
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: you think they're set in the middle now? Hello? Do

524
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: you think they're set in the middle now? Or is

525
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: that I think joh Ontario Poel if you come with

526
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: the same attitude he's at the last six or seven years,

527
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: the young man McCoy, Jerald McCoy, he'll pay you know,

528
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: he's not young. No, no, And this is a one

529
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: year maybe one year, a year and a half them

530
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: What what what the Cowboys have been doing for the

531
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: last few years is piecing together a defense and it

532
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: folded on the Chesterday last year. What they got to

533
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: do now is now they need a positions. They need

534
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: players at every position. They need playmakers that Arab position.

535
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: So now they're gonna try to draft, you know, so

536
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: they say, okay, let's let's take over now at the middle.

537
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Let's put some guys in the middle of this thing,

538
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: and then we maybe they can draft that other positions

539
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: like corner, outside, edge, you guy, but uh, we're at

540
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel when to come to defense, fellas, whoo,

541
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: who should we expect more? Right? Up this year? Mcquoire, pod,

542
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: I like, I like like, I like Poe well and

543
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: see je I mean you say that in a joking,

544
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: joking way. This kid grow up. I hope he grow up.

545
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: If he grew up, If this kid grow up and

546
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: mature and understand that hard work is what make a

547
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: great player, Uh, then we'll have something special. That that

548
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: a set back another year of us having to draft

549
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: a guy at a three technique, you know, because that's

550
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: what he would be. Then I think because of the

551
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Ontario Poe and Jet and excuse him and Jesse, you

552
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: agree with me, a fat guy that's in the middle.

553
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: And I'm not calling the Ontario Poe just an average

554
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: fat guy, but a fat guy tends to last longer

555
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: in the middle beat getting beat up like that, They

556
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: say an athletic guy. Yeah, you know, I agree with you,

557
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: but we do have to understand where the game is going,

558
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and you need more guys to be a little bit

559
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: more athletic from because the offensive line is getting more athletic,

560
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: those guys are getting more numble, those guys are getting

561
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: more quick. So sometimes you have to have that guy

562
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: because if I can create pressure up the middle without

563
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: having to bring extra backards. Now having to bring extra people,

564
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I've now set myself up to having much better defense

565
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: on the back end. It's what I start to have

566
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: to commit the front flour plus more plus an outside guy.

567
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: Now when I leave myself a little bit vulnerable in

568
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: certain places. So if I can get a good mixture

569
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: of big fat, greasy and athleticism, now I create that

570
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: pocket pressure with out having to add more guys to

571
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: the mix, which it doesn't leave me so vulnerable in

572
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: other places. So that's why I think with Tristian Hill,

573
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: it'll be great for him to take that next step

574
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: to have that athletic guy in the middle. So that

575
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: now when you're talking about having those guys where sometimes

576
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: it can be a big grum stopping dude, but also

577
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: it can be a guy who you know, get up, swim,

578
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: move quick and create that pressure, collapse that pocket and

579
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: we can get the pressure up front and not have

580
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: to bring you know, man five and Man six and

581
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: bring a guy off the edge and a cat blitz

582
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: and then brings Yeah. Oh, when you start doing that stuff,

583
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: you leave yourself vulnerable. You leave yourself and in a

584
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: situation where the numbers don't go on your favor. You

585
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: gotta get home before the quarterback gets the ball out.

586
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: And the way that this league is becoming, everybody's in

587
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: the shotgun. Everybody's three four wide receivers and they can

588
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: see all that stuff coming so they know where to

589
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: go with the ball really quickly. Let's try to get

590
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: those guys up front to be big, fat and greasy, yes,

591
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: but also have that guy in the front that can

592
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: also be athletic and create pressure with just the down

593
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: guys and not have the app more God leaving ourselves unable.

594
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: And that's where do you think? That's where I think

595
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: don Terrio Pole, he will give you enough on the

596
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: pass rush so those guys can do what they have

597
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: to do. So the three technique in the edge, you

598
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: guys can do what they have to do. I think

599
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: what they're looking for right now to get this thing started,

600
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: it's guys that's gonna play at a high level more consistently.

601
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Last year we had guys playing when they wanted to play.

602
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: These two guys that got in the middle, they're gonna

603
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: give you what they got on the field on a

604
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: more consistent basis every game. And I'm with you, Jess.

605
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: You know, if if the extra numbers, the extra numbers

606
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: always should lean towards your skill position players, your cornerbacks,

607
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: that high bred linebacker at a high bred safety that

608
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: can do multiple things on defense. I grew one hundred percent.

609
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: That's what the forty nine ers have. That's what the

610
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: New England Padre have. When they go heavy at a position,

611
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be at the skilled position players. So

612
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: guys they can do multiple things. It's all about coverage.

613
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: It's all about coverage. So a lot of people are Jesse,

614
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: I hear your sham what you say. I said, who

615
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: do you expect more out of? I know you, I

616
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: know you you're hoping Tristan Hill shows up, that you're

617
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: expecting more out of Poe and McCoy brood um, you know,

618
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: probably Pope A little bit younger than than than McCoy.

619
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: M thank you. I mean those guys are. The thing

620
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: about those two guys are they're professionals. They've been around

621
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: for a while, they understand what it is to be

622
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: in this league. They know how to prepare, They've seen

623
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive skills. So I look at those

624
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: two guys that both of these guys are coming in

625
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: trying to do some things, trying to sell fool that

626
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: they still can do it have They have a ton

627
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: of knowledge, a wealth of knowledge, a wealth of skills.

628
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I think with those two guys, you're probably Pope because

629
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: he's younger than McCoy, but McCoy can still be that

630
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: savvy old veteran. But I hope those two guys being there,

631
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: it roves all on a guy like Tristan Hill, where

632
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: he's looking at those guys and saying, you know, because

633
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: sometimes what will happened is you have guys stick out

634
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: like a sore thumber. And it's because the rest of

635
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: the guys are doing it at a high level and

636
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: a professional level and you aren't. And I think when

637
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: you see that, if you have those two guys come

638
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: in there and are productive and are you know are

639
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Speaker 1: drafting there's no talent. It's now, how can I get

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Speaker 1: Just talent alone a lot of times won't get you

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Speaker 1: from our offices, bedrooms, work rooms, not the SWUBC Warrior studio.

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Speaker 1: You like, how work do you work? That? In? Multiple

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Speaker 1: times today you need to explain that you have great

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Speaker 1: this picture right here? Yeah, that picture? What is that?

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Speaker 1: Who did that? That? So Ambar Garcia is what's that?

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Speaker 1: Is that? From zig Who's Ziggy? Oh it's not from

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Speaker 1: him though, No, it's uh Ambar Garcia that works for us.

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Speaker 1: It does all of our Spanish content. She's an amazing

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Speaker 1: artist and she does a lot of really cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: And when I eventually buy a house, I want to

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Speaker 1: have artwork all around my house that's from people that

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Speaker 1: I know that actually do art. So whatever, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I just just random art like I have. I have

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Speaker 1: another buddy of mine that does art and I've got

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Speaker 1: some photos some up from paintings from him and um

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Speaker 1: um amos Maltinado. That's uh. He's actually an artist for

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Speaker 1: the company Funco that does those little pops. Actually I

739
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Speaker 1: need to need to decorate around me with some stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: He's done some paintings for me and um so I

741
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: asked Ambar a couple of years ago to paint to

742
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Speaker 1: paint something for me, and I was she was. She

743
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Speaker 1: spent months trying to figure out what to paint, and

744
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Speaker 1: I was like, if you do anything that has me

745
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Speaker 1: in it made me look like a badass, because in

746
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: real life, I'm not a badass. So she took a

747
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Speaker 1: picture of me one day and about I guess about

748
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Speaker 1: a month later, Wow brought her interpretation of you. Yeah,

749
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Speaker 1: explained to me what it is, Fellas, I can't see that.

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Speaker 1: What the here, let me grab it. It's just a

751
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Speaker 1: picture of kind of evil. Yeah, it's I've got green

752
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Speaker 1: eyes and I've got a beard, and it's on mixed media.

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Speaker 1: So all the words, um, all the words that you

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Speaker 1: can see in the mixed media or some version of

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Speaker 1: fight in different languages. Okay, Jason, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, alright, yeah, we know, so that's it. Yeah,

757
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Speaker 1: But I'm a big I'm a big I'm a big

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Speaker 1: UFC fan, and you know, I've taken boxing classes and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm big into all that stuff. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: I want something that makes me look like a badass.

761
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Speaker 1: But then when she painted it, I was like, I

762
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Speaker 1: can't hang this anywhere in my apartment, Like I bring

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Speaker 1: some somebody comes over to visit, they're gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: what a self absorbed, conceited jerk. He's got a painting

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Speaker 1: of him on his wall, so it'll probably sit in

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Speaker 1: my closet forever. So well, we see it, so we

767
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Speaker 1: think the same things. You might will put it up

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Speaker 1: because the world see it. The world see it. Come home, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't need a picture of you in your house.

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Speaker 1: I know that you all those things you said you

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Speaker 1: were stop it, stop it stop stop. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get back to some football. Uh. Jesse, you brought up

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Speaker 1: earlier Byron Jones had some comments that were maybe a

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00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: jab at the Cowboys. What what? What exactly did he say? No?

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Speaker 1: You know his uh we all know his new destination

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00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: is is Miami, and he said he wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a part of from that I was building in the

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00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: right direction, then going in the right direction, and then

779
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: trying to build a championship team. Think for him and

780
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe that same thing what you know, Rydall call being

781
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, the money grab because

782
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: he got more money there. But this is a guy

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00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: who's been here his entire career, Randall Cord, which just

784
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: came in, he's been out of places, but for Byron

785
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Speaker 1: to leave, and he said it in a classy way.

786
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Speaker 1: He wasn't being you know, starkey when he said it.

787
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Speaker 1: But it just makes you think about you know, it

788
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Speaker 1: makes you think that, you know, if they were close,

789
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: samely for Randall clock, if when you see stuff like

790
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Speaker 1: that happened, when guys have the opportunity to sign back,

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Speaker 1: if they think that the team was close to winning

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Speaker 1: a championship. Because Miami's not close. I don't know if

793
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: Houston's close, um, but we talked about just having that

794
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Speaker 1: opportunity to do So what is that say for the

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Speaker 1: old organization? Because I mean, I think if you look

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Speaker 1: at those teams and I know that Houston was in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but now that they don't have Hopkins and

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Speaker 1: they don't have some other guys on that team, you

799
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Speaker 1: look at a Cowboys team said, man, this team has

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Speaker 1: been together and have the pieces in place to go

801
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Speaker 1: out and do something tremendous. New coaching staff in town.

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Speaker 1: You know, is he saying the Cowboys may not be

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Speaker 1: as close as we think they are. It could be

804
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Speaker 1: for sure, And I wonder or is that just is

805
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Speaker 1: that just lip service that players when they go to

806
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Speaker 1: a team that's a decent team or a good team

807
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Speaker 1: that that's just something they say, be nice to the

808
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Speaker 1: new fan base. Maybe talk to the coach. And he

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Speaker 1: liked But the coach, head coach had to say, maybe

810
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: the head coach showed him the vision. Maybe he you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he believes in it. But I'm with Jesse, you

812
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: know how much of that is. You know, I'm the

813
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: highest paid, a second high paid corn in the game.

814
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Speaker 1: He said he would, you know, he would be more

815
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Speaker 1: of a leader, Maybe he would be more of a

816
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: face of this team. You know, maybe he'll have a

817
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: lot more to say. Whereas with the Cowboys, he you know,

818
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: we didn't. Was he a leader on this team? Was

819
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: he a guy? They called him the senator here quit

820
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys because he knew he knew how to

821
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: say the right things at the right time and be

822
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: buddy buddy to everybody. So we have more to say there.

823
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Speaker 1: I've got a fun question for you guys. All right,

824
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Speaker 1: let's I like to deal with hypotheticals. Even though our

825
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: past coach did not like hypotheticals. This show's all about hypotheticals.

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Speaker 1: So Kurt, I'll start with you. If you say you're

827
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Speaker 1: a free agent. Money is not an issue for you.

828
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Like you've you've made all your money. You're not worried

829
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: about money. You just want to go somewhere and you

830
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: want to win. You were with the Dallas Cowboys for

831
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: let's just say the past four years. You're now a

832
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: free agent. Where do you go? Where do you sign?

833
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: Do you stay here and you like the direction, you

834
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: like the team they're building. Do you stay here and

835
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: resign here your guys are here, You've built something with

836
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: these guys, but you want to win. Or do you

837
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Speaker 1: go try to sign somewhere like a a Houston or

838
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: a Tennessee or a Baltimore or a Green Bay or

839
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: you know, Kansas City obviously would be the obvious choice. Yeah,

840
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Speaker 1: I mean I think if you're if you're, like you said,

841
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: a veteran and money's not no issue, I think you're

842
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: looking elsewhere because the Cowboys, you know, they're they're like

843
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: Nate said earlier, they're trying to contend to just get

844
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And so you know, you got a

845
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: home new coaching staff. You know is they're going to

846
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: be a year transition as they try to work through that.

847
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Who knows that you know, hey, let me reframe it

848
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. You're not at the end of your career.

849
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Let's say you're on your second contract. You're you're in

850
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: the middle of your career. You're coming up on your

851
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: prime years. So you're not like a witting that's going

852
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: and playing for a year or two to try to win.

853
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: You you still have enough time to build something. So

854
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: then I think I would think Dallas would be a

855
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: very attractive place. Then, because Mike McCarthy's proven he's he

856
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: can be a good coach, and I think he in

857
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: the organization's kind of, you know, heading in a good direction.

858
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: They they got to change, they got obviously they have

859
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: the talent on offense to score points. If you think,

860
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: you know, they can rebuild the defense. Maybe if you're

861
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: a defensive guy like a McCoy or a Poe who's younger, Um, yeah,

862
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I think Dallas is definitely an attractive And

863
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: then I mean, just then you consider all the other stuff,

864
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: the training facilities, the focus, you know, I mean, the

865
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: status of the team or statue of the team. Who

866
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play in Dallas. Okay, so Kurt, you're

867
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: staying Jesse and what are you doing staying here? Are

868
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: you going somewhere else? Money being equal? Right? Money? No money,

869
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Money's not in your shoe. Yeah. For me, I probably

870
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. I probably look at, you know, a

871
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: team like Kansas City. I look like a team like

872
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans, similar, because those teams have proven in recent

873
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: and recent history that they can get into the playoffs,

874
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: that consistently get into the playoffs and go deep into

875
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And look at the team like Kansas City.

876
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City is returning every single player on their roster

877
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: that played at least fifty seven percent of the snaps

878
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: last year. Like, a team like that, to me, is

879
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: a team that's ready to go. M New Orleans another

880
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: team that's like consistently going to be in the playoff pushed.

881
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: The thing for Dallas is there's so many inconsistencies and

882
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: no one has been a bigger advocate for Freaky Mike

883
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: than me. But Freaky Mike, Yeah, I like preak you much. Okay,

884
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: but we still don't know what he's going to be.

885
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be great. I believe he's

886
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: going to be great. But until the rubber meets the road,

887
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: we don't know, and the Cowboys have been this consistent

888
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: roller coaster throughout the years, within the playoffs, out the playoffs,

889
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, out the playoffs. So if it was

890
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: me and I was getting into my prime money not

891
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: being an object anymore, I'm chasing, then I'm trying to

892
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: chase myself a ring. So I'm gonna put myself in

893
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: a position Kansas City, New Orleans, Seattle, teams that go

894
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: to the r that consistently go to the playoffs every

895
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: single year and gives me the best chance to go

896
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: get a ring. All right, guess he's out, Nate. You

897
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: stay in there. You're going somewhere else, you know. Man,

898
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: I've been a cowboy all my life. Man, when I

899
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: had a chance and I had to play all my life. Man,

900
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to play for the Dallas Cowboys, and uh,

901
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: even when I came to the Cowboys were sorry and

902
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: I thought, I said, man, I need to leave so

903
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: their fortunes can change. Because I thought it was me.

904
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: But now that I see it wasn't me. Yeah, I

905
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: tell you what, brother, All those teams, yes she talked

906
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: about at plus the Ravens our team. We have no

907
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: consistency and we don't know the direction. We know the

908
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: direction that we hope they go in, but we don't

909
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: know the direction until we see what the new coaches

910
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: can put in. And if you if you're in the

911
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: middle of your career, you know the kids. Even the

912
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans the last few years have been in the

913
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: playoffs with a mariolder than they went this year with

914
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: the kid from Miami. But now they've resigned him that

915
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: everybody know who they are. So these why these teams

916
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: are getting to the playoffs, And so I regret, I

917
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: regret what I'm about to say, but I'm how to

918
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: stay with the Dallas Cowboys. You can change. You can

919
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: change if you can change the location, but you can't

920
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: change the homey Jess, I thought you like that, Jess.

921
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: People forget I'm some of the most wins over the

922
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: past few years. I mean, the Keboys a good team.

923
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: They got the talent on offense, layoff playoff wins though,

924
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: but that I think with the new coach that takes

925
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: it to a different level. You've got more experience with Prescott.

926
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: It's the defense obviously, is what you what you gotta fix.

927
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: And so I you know, I'm not I'm not leaving.

928
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: Come on now, Jesse, there's money an it's not an object.

929
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: I got money. I'm good, and I'm trying to go

930
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: chase the ring. But I'm going to the places where

931
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to the walls where I know

932
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to be either in contention to win the division,

933
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: but definitely in the playoffs every single year. I'm going

934
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: to places like Kansas City, who's been in the playoffs

935
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: every single year and coming off for Super Bowl. Like

936
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: I know, you know, most teams don't go back to back,

937
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: but this inconsistent to me. Man, It's just I don't know.

938
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: I can't go keep chasing that waterfall. I'm gonna put

939
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: myself a position where I know I'm going into the

940
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: playoffs every single bit and I'm good. Once we get in,

941
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: anything can happen. I just don't know. I just don't

942
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: know if this plane is going to take off right

943
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: away for playoff greatness. Well, I know Andy Reid and

944
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and coaches like that have consistently put their

945
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs and have gone way further than

946
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: we have here in Dallas in the last ten years.

947
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: But go ahead, and to add on to that man.

948
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: And see what I'm trying to say is, you know,

949
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: coaching make a difference. Look at the Tennessee Titans, they've

950
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: had two different quarterbacks. Don't know, We don't know, especially

951
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: in the in the in the era that we're living

952
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: in right now, right right we haven't like Mike McCarthy

953
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: has yet to get his hands on any player, any player,

954
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: So we we there's still this level of unknown. There's

955
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: a there's a faith not be believing, and there's a

956
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: hope that we believe in, but there's still this level

957
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: of we don't quite know what it's going to be

958
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: once we all get started again. I know for those

959
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: other guys, they've been consistently putting guys in the playoffs

960
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: with their two that they have right now. And that's

961
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, isn't there's something too though, Like you're

962
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: you're on a team that's you're heading in the right direction.

963
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: This is the coach you wanted here in there is

964
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: there something too? You've built you you've built the foundation

965
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: with your teammates and your brothers and you guys started together,

966
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: and wouldn't it make it that much sweeter to be

967
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: able to actually do it with those guys instead of

968
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: going and being like a mercenary and you go for

969
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: a year or two and win it somewhere else, when

970
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: you could ride this thing out and possibly win it

971
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: with these guys that you started with that money. If

972
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: money's not again, is that is that a little bit

973
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: more appealing or you just like, Nah, I just want

974
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: the ring. I'm appeal there's some appeal to that. But

975
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: and we're talking about going to get a ring. Man,

976
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go get my ring before I get

977
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: about it here. Like we could be brothers in the offseason.

978
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: We could be brothers at the golf course. We're gonna

979
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: be brothers on family vacations. We could do all of

980
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: that stuff we're talking about going to get a ring.

981
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: I can't necessarily always wait on my brothers. You're talking about,

982
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: you know, on the highway head to success. Nah, I'm

983
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: heading to success. I'm going to get on the highward

984
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: that's already had success. So I mean, you can play

985
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: the brother role if you want. That's cool, But most

986
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get there's I'm gonna tell you something,

987
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: it ain't thathing. Like being in the room and everybody'll

988
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: be talking about how great they are in the Hall

989
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: of Famers, and you'd be like, big new, what's up?

990
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: And you just put that ring up. You just put

991
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: that ring up. Bro. Yeah, you can do what you

992
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: want to do. But just right, I got I got

993
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: two or three at e bro, which one you want

994
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: the bar? You know what, you know what's gonna happen

995
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: to Jesse. He's gonna go somewhere else and then they're

996
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: gonna win one here. That's what's gonna happen to Jesse.

997
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know what. We said the

998
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: same thing about de Marcus Ware but he got one.

999
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: We said the same thing about Clayborne, but he got one.

1000
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Hitchens got one, Wilson got one. So they took Jesse there.

1001
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 1: They went to the successful highway man. But fellas y'all

1002
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: heard me say, for three years, I see what Jason

1003
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: Garrett was trying to go, and I thought he was

1004
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: trying to build. And once we started winning, I thought

1005
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: we would go two, three, four years of at least

1006
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 1: getting in the playoff. Because Jesse said a thousand times,

1007
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: once you get there, anything can happen. Look, and I

1008
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: keep going back to the center Tennessee Titans to what

1009
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: the head coach has done. The head coach has found

1010
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: a way to get his players into the playoffs over

1011
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: the last two years, and a lot of people can't

1012
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: do that. Fellas coaching matters, coaching adders, and Tennessee has

1013
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: done it without you know, household names like yeah, thank you,

1014
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Travis Henry, Yes, like this year got him to be

1015
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: a household name. But I mean Marcus Mariota, Tannehill, like

1016
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: they don't really and who they don't really have superstars personally.

1017
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: So you know when when hey, I got a question, man,

1018
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: don't be cutting me off. Well it's twelve o'clock. The

1019
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: show's over. I just wanted when players are looking looking

1020
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: at free agency, looking where they want to go, are

1021
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: they more concerned with the players on that team that

1022
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: they're looking at or the coaching on that team. But

1023
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, if you want to, like,

1024
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about how great the quarterback is, but me

1025
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: and Jesson no Andy Rees have been putting this up

1026
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: in a position like this for years of years. He's

1027
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: one of the longest team without a super Bowl. But

1028
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: you have never questioned whether he was going to the playoffs.

1029
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: And so now he's in the players now Mahomes. Yeah,

1030
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: everybody want to play with Mahomes. But everybody, guys a

1031
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: look at coach Spacknola the defensive cording and say wow,

1032
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: he put together a bunch of misfits along with Chris

1033
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: Jones being a great player in the Badger and they

1034
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: did their thing. So that will sway you there, Bro

1035
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: and the Reeves called in the guy that played them

1036
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: many years scrug shrugs some pronouncing his name around. He

1037
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: called that guy. He said, Man, I got to be there.

1038
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: I got the dude's going to a super Bowl. It

1039
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: ain't hard to tell, brother where your chances that you

1040
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: ain't got be in Vegas, not flipping coins to know

1041
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: where super Bowl is at all right, fellas well, this

1042
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: has been fun. Matt, thanks for pulling this together again.

1043
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: I robot I robot Nate. Good seeing your brother, good

1044
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: hanging out. Thanks, Hey, good seeing man Jesse. Thanks for

1045
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: showing up and being on time. Thanks for actually talking.

1046
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: You need you need to get a clock in your

1047
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: in your room and realize when we need to go

1048
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: to break and whin the show's over. That's the next

1049
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: big step for you, hey and Shannon. What we need

1050
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: for you to do for now, to just put your

1051
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: picture in front of your own phone and then just

1052
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: talk behind that. So you's a bad man. You's a

1053
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: bad man. Next show, That's what I'll do and then

1054
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: talk behind it. So appreciate you guys. Listen, We will

1055
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: be back next week. Let's do it again from the

1056
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: comforts of our own homes. It sounds like for one

1057
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: more week at least. Jesse is a trader. Jesse is

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