1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Paul. 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Mission control decands. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: to know. It is Thursday, if you are hearing this, 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: the day it comes out, which means it is time 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: for our weekly listener mail segment. We get into some 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: very strange conversations, as you might imagine, fellow conspiracy realists, 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: and this is our ongoing opportunity to bring some of 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: those conversations to you. We're going to hear about a 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: man allegedly from more than a thousand years in the future. 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: We're going to hear some firsthand accounts about lucid dreaming techniques. 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: It's always a so it's a subject of returning fascination 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: on this show. And then we're also going to hear 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: about something that I thought was a very um interesting 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: I won't say neat but very interesting tie in to 21 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: our earlier strange news last week about the harrowing Sophie's 22 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Choice situation various communities out west to found themselves in 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: with dropping water and the need for electricity dropping water levels. 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: I should say, so, what do you see? Guys? Should 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: we start with some true crime, go to the edges 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: of dream and then end in the future. That sounds 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: like a good trajectory for our listener mail journey agreed? 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Then away we go. Uh. First, big, big thanks to 29 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Byron as well as Jasmine. Byron sent us an email Jasmine, 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: you reached out. Uh, you reach out over social media 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: artist friend of the show out in Vegas. And thank 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you to several anonymous people who asked not to be 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: on air but wanted to communicate this story with our 34 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: fellow listeners. So Byron's email just to set this up 35 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: is short and sweet, and it's going to take us 36 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: on a bit of a strange news conversation. Byron says simply, Hi, guys, 37 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: have you been following the story about the bodies that 38 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: are turning up at Lake Mead as the water level 39 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: continues to drop, des might make a good addition to 40 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: your Strange News segment Byron. Uh, you are absolutely right, sir, 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: and you are so right that we were not waiting 42 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: until next week to do this. We are going to 43 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: explore it now for just a bit. And as we begin, 44 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I want to shout out Brian particularly. You have been 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: a long time correspondent of the show. It's always a 46 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: pleasure to hear from you. As we say, we do 47 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: read every single email we get. And Uh, I don't 48 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: know if we'll put on the air this time, but Byron, 49 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I was immensely fascinated by your story of dating the 50 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: ultrasound specialist who was training with cadaverous body parts. The 51 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: course that true love never did run smooth, as they say. 52 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: But uh, but here we go. So this there's a 53 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: story that started breaking about eight days or so as 54 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: we record today on Tuesday, May ten. And this story 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: concerns Lake Mead. I I don't know if you guys 56 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: have ever been to Lake Mead. It's this reservoir formed 57 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: by the Hoover Dam on the Colorado River, like we 58 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: discussed in our Strange News story. It's out twenty four 59 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: miles east of Vegas. As the crows fly, It's huge, 60 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: it's the biggest reservoir in the US in terms of 61 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: how much water it can hold, and as the water 62 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: levels continued dropping, things started coming to the surface. Years ago, 63 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: on Car Stuff, a friend of the show Scott Benjamin 64 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: and I who are always sneaking in true crime true 65 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: crime stories on our car show, Uh, we looked at 66 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: the distressing number of vehicles, sometimes with bodies in them, 67 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: that have been driven to and parked beneath lakes and 68 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: mighty rivers all across the United States. There are a lot, 69 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: so many that no one's sure exactly how prevalent it 70 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: is for people to get and at Lake Burial. And 71 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: that's something Lake Mead is confronting now. So well, what 72 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: about what about bodies in barrels? Yes, yeah, you know 73 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: why ruined a perfectly good car. So it was around 74 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: May second a barrel was found in Lake Mead, revealed 75 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: by the receding water. And this barrel had been underground 76 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: or underwater excuse me, quite a long time. Uh, possibly 77 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: as much as four decades, so it's been there since 78 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: the eighties. This wasn't just an empty barrel, this contained 79 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: a body and police who were investigating this suspect the 80 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: person was murdered. They were a homicide victim, and they're 81 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: guessing that based on other personal items they found in 82 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: the barrel. At that point, they hadn't really talked about 83 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: what those items may have been, but it was a 84 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: steel barrel. It was near the Hemn Way, not Hemming Way, 85 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: but Heman Way fishing pier. And they know that the 86 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: victim probably died due to a gunshot wound based on 87 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: what they could tell from the clothing. They said he 88 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: was killed in maybe the early eighties, but maybe as 89 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: far long ago as the nineteen seventies. And then they 90 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: found a second body, this one perhaps without foul play 91 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: at least that was the statement. I'm getting a lot 92 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: of this, by the way, from some great reporting over 93 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: on ABC News shout out to Bill Hutchinson. Also some 94 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: fantastic commentary from the Vegas Local subreddit, or also just 95 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: the Vegas at Large subreddit. And it's tough because right 96 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: now we know that in at least one case, it 97 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: appears someone murdered someone else and got away with it. 98 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: That first body, again discovered on May one. I don't know. 99 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: One of the first questions that I had, which I 100 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: found the answer for in be reassuring is how does 101 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: this affect water supply? Right? Dead bodies are dirty? Uh, 102 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: could it pose a threat to the forty million so 103 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: people who rely on water from the Colorado River and 104 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Lake Powell and Lake Mead. The answer is probably not, luckily, 105 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: So there's that stuff gets treated. They don't just siphon 106 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: the water directly out of the reservoir and they're like, 107 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: drink this. Does this smell dead? Do you? Is your 108 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: week to test the water? Let's just boil it and 109 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: just to be safe, you know, it's just why why 110 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: risk it? It is weird to think that that's been 111 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: down there for that long, right, these bodies have been 112 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: under the water for so long. Yeah. I started trying 113 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: to find a little bit more information about this at 114 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: this point as we're recording, I'm mainly seeing rumors, Uh, 115 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: a lot of them hinging on. Vegas is earlier grimy 116 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: days as a hotbed of organized crime, which, you know, 117 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: just to be clear, in comparison to a lot of 118 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: other cities, Vegas still has a ton of organized crime. 119 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: You know, people are getting away with it. I thought 120 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: it was mainly the desert though, or they like buried people, 121 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, and take them out of the desert, get 122 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: him on their knees, shooting execution style. Do they make 123 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: make them dig their own shallow grave? Is that? What? 124 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Come on? Wait? Wait, wait, where's our our respect for 125 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: for the past? Let me quote in a response first 126 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: before I says it is a tragedy. People are dead, 127 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: someone got away. But let me quote in response a 128 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: statement by former Las Vegas mayor Oscar Goodman the day 129 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: after the discovery, he said, there's don't tell you what 130 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: we'll find in Lake Mead. It's not a bad place 131 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: to dump a body. Goodman, by the way, was a 132 00:08:53,960 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: defense attorney known for representing mafia figures, including people like 133 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Tony or Anthony, Tony the Aunt Spilotro before he got 134 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: elected as a mayor, who was known for love of martinis. 135 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: He served three terms in Vegas. I'd love to see 136 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Tony the Aunt face off against Sammy the Bull, you know, like, uh, 137 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: it seems like a really diminutive mafia nickname. You know 138 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: that was he was? He just very tiny? What was this? 139 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: How do you get a nickname like that? Do you 140 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: have multiple limbs? Maybe two mandibles? Yeah, there you go. 141 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that guy knows how many bodies. He knows 142 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: a lot of bodies that are down there, and the 143 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: boats and all the other stuff. The former mayor Goodman 144 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: again said he followed up he was he was ready 145 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: to talk about this. He said, you know, I can't 146 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: speculate how many bodies might turn up in Lake Mead. 147 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: That's he just said, I'm not going to speculate. And 148 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: then he said I'm relatively sure it was not Jimmy 149 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: Hoffa and uh yeah. And then he also noted that 150 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot of his former clients, I wasn't expecting this. 151 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: A lot of his former clients from his mob attorning 152 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: days were very interested in climate control, not a euphemism 153 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: like fighting climate change. They were conservationists because they wanted 154 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: to keep the level of the lake up and the 155 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: bodies underwater. I thought climate control was just like you know, 156 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: central heating and air, not for the mob. I guess 157 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: you can do the right things for the wrong reasons, right. 158 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: It's fair to naken and don't how many mini golf 159 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: balls are at the bottom of lake mean, they're just 160 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: regular golf balls from driving ranges, you know throughout the area. 161 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: A lot of golf in in Vegas really think about 162 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: that guy's I mean, you're right, but I'm sure there 163 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: are a ton No. But like, the reason why we 164 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: found these bodies is because the lake is receding from 165 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: the sides right as it's going down to the deepest 166 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: parts of the lake. If you know that you're dumping 167 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: a body into a very deep reservoir slash lake, you're 168 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna try to dump it near the center, right the 169 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: deepest part. What else is down there? I enjoined us 170 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: see every club, you know, like everybody, but the birds 171 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: in the trees and the lake. Of course, all these 172 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: turbines they're killing the birds can't windower is bad news. Uh. 173 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me there's an episode of Sopranos where I 174 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: forget who is I think it's Pouli and Christopher. They 175 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: have to go dig up a body that they buried 176 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a development built and they know 177 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna get discovered, and then they're gonna like, do 178 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, teeth and bone matching or whatever, and then 179 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: they'll know. Uh. I forget why they knew they would 180 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: get found out, but they literally had to go dig 181 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: ut the body. And the funny thing in the scene 182 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: is they got the body and the dude's fingernails have grown, 183 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: and that's like, I don't know if this is true 184 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: or not, but it was like, yeah, they keep growing 185 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: after you're dead. Oh your your skin recedesies. Yeah that 186 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: makes sense. Well, you know, Pauli and Christop aren't really 187 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: known for being the brightest grounds in the box. And 188 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: I obviously felt for the ruse as well. So thanks 189 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: for it's a weird it's a weird fact to know. 190 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: I would be careful how you deploy that one when you're, 191 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, on a first date or something. Maybe save that, 192 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: save that for the third day, but for the wedding night. 193 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: The wedding night, did I tell you about those fingernails? Honey, 194 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe this on your biggest honeymoon. So 195 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: let's get some context here. Since Lake Meat alone has 196 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: dropped more than a hundred and seventy ft fifty two 197 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: meters for everybody outside the US and forty million people 198 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: rely on this across seven states in the Southwest, that 199 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: source of water is down to about thirty percent of 200 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: what it should be. It's got a third of the 201 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: gas tank it's supposed to have, and this prompts people 202 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: like Michael Green, who is a history professor at the 203 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: University of Nevada, Las Vegas, to say, if the lake 204 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: goes down much further is very possible We're gonna have 205 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: some very interesting things surface. That is not what Dr 206 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Green sounds like. I'm just doing mob voices. Again. The 207 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: people were mentioned, You're all very smart, they're very good 208 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: at their jobs. It's just, you know, we're Sopranos fans, 209 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Godfather fans. It's it's fun to do a voice. Uh, 210 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of like from what what our friends in 211 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Vegas have told being directly and again thanks for reaching out, 212 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: and from what I'm seeing in the news and from 213 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: locals in the area, it appears that everybody is almost 214 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: certain they're going to be more bodies found. Right now, 215 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: there are just two. But as the lake continues to drain, 216 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: and as that water level can and used to go 217 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: lower and lower, Uh, they're probably there. There probably will 218 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: be more things found. And you know, there's a concern 219 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: that people have, rightly or wrongly historically about whether or 220 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: not the p D in Las Vegas and surrounding areas, 221 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: whether or not they're corrupt. It may interest you know 222 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: that second body, one that is not considered to be 223 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: a death as a result of foul play is not 224 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: being investigated at this time. That's weird. They found a body, 225 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: just not investigating unless the coroner says that something looks off. 226 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: That's the one they found in the sandbar that was like, yeah, 227 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: they thought it was that was an animal job oon 228 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,119 Speaker 1: at first. And there are some people who are posting 229 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: rewards for divers to go try to find more barrels 230 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: possibly containing bodies in the lake. Uh, And the National 231 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: Park Service said they're these divers are not allowed to 232 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: go snooping around in the lake, which would cause the 233 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: more conspiratorially minded to say, hey, these guys are in 234 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: on it maybe and uh, then we know that people 235 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: like David Colemeyer, who was a former police officer and 236 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: now a podcaster and host of a TV show called 237 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: The Problem Solver Show. Uh. Coal Meyer said that he's 238 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: heard from families of missing people and various cases of 239 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: disappearances that might might indicate there are more bodies to 240 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: be found there. He also said it's probably bigger than 241 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: mob hits. This could just be a matter of bringing 242 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: closure to grieving families, which I think we can all 243 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: we can all support, but we're gonna we're gonna pause 244 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: here in the meantime, if you were in the Vegas area, 245 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: let us know how the locals are receiving this, let 246 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: us know what you think is under the water, and uh, 247 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: just reach out if you want to hear that car 248 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: stuff episode about how many how many cars with bodies 249 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: are found in lakes and rivers on a regular basis, 250 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: can emphasize that enough conspiracy. I hear radio dot com 251 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: one eight three three st d w y t K 252 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: will take a break for a sponsor, will be right back, 253 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: and we're back with more messages from you, the public, 254 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the conspiracy realists among you. Uh, and we got a 255 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: real good one from Whorah. It's funny because Ben didn't 256 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: Whura come up recently with a super producer, Max Williams 257 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: of Ridiculous History fame. I think we were talking about, like, 258 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's interested in like three things, and one 259 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: of them is like trains, one of them is such 260 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: uh curling, the other one in star trek. Uh. And 261 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned to Whoa and I actually really proud of 262 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: myself because I spelled her name correctly. Who are as 263 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: obviously very important character in the Earthly What the original 264 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: Star War Trek series, because there is a very early 265 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: television interracial kiss that takes place between William Shatner and 266 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: the actor who plays a Hura whose name is escaping Me. 267 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: But that is neither here nor there. That is simply 268 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: our listeners nickname, code name Hura who are writes to 269 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: us about lucid dreaming and THHC, two things that I'm 270 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: very interested in. Um, I hope all as well with everyone. 271 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm running In reference to a recent episode where cannabis 272 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: use and its effects on dreams was mentioned. I'm thirty 273 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: now and began dabbling in recreational marijuana use when I 274 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: was eighteen. It started out slowly and quickly became a habit. 275 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: Around twenty five and interest in lucid dreaming was sparked 276 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: and I began to do exercises to achieve lucidity. I 277 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: met my goal. A handful of time was ranged from 278 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: changing the colors of the carpet in the room I 279 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: was in, to looking into a mirror and altering my 280 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: appearance until satisfaction, all of this while maintaining my now 281 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: daily habit. UH every now and again, my edge will straighten, 282 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: and I'll feel the urge to refrain from alcohol and 283 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: THHC for a certain period and without fail, within about 284 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: two nights of sobriety, my dreams take on a hyper 285 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: realistic and malleable form. Otherwise I feel my dreams are 286 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: the hazy, daisy and scattered norm long story short, Yes, Mary, Jane, 287 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: most definitely has an effect on dreams and how vivid 288 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: they may be. I know lucid dreaming was a sidestep 289 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: you had mentioned, and Noel had said he was interested 290 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: in the idea of lucid dreaming. A couple of the 291 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: ways to encourage this uh is the following one. Check 292 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: the clock often in your awake hours, look away and 293 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: back again up to three times. This will get you 294 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: into the habit of checking the time and will eventually 295 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: seep into your subconscious mind. If you are dreaming, the 296 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: time will change drastically between glances, or may say an 297 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: impossible sequence of numbers one oh one fifteen am, for example, 298 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: during your awake hours, attempt to push your pointer finger 299 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: through the opposite hands palm. Obviously, you couldn't if you're awake, 300 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: but if you are dreaming, you will be able to 301 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the spinning top and inception guys. Um, 302 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: it's the idea of like a test of some kind 303 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: to determine whether you're incepted or not, or in this case, 304 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: just dreaming. Three fall asleep to a mantra about gaining 305 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: lucidity while dreaming. I've heard this one before. Tonight, while dreaming, 306 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: I will realize I am dreaming and gain control of 307 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: my dream experience. That sounds awesome. Uh. These examples have 308 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: worked for me personally. While checking back on a clock 309 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: in a dream, the hands of the clock began to 310 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: spin frantically, alerting me to my dream state. Another time, 311 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I was having what I would call a nightmare in 312 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: which my apartment was being fired upon and overtaken. I 313 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: didn't want it to be real, so I tried to 314 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: push my finger through my palm and low and behold. 315 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: My palms stretched like putty, protruding from the pressure of 316 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: my finger, allowing me to stop the bullets heading for 317 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: me midair and escape easily to safety. Crying laughing emoji. 318 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: I do apologize for my rambling, please, So this is wonderful, 319 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: wonderful stuff. Um, I've been meaning to reach out. I 320 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: listened to you all almost every day as I am 321 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: able to listen while I work. I thoroughly enjoy your 322 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: thoughtful and interesting, very individual perspectives. I often look forward 323 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: to sharing topics you have covered with my partner and friends. 324 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Live long and prosper uh spock finger emoji who are out? 325 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Uh planetary emojis. Um, these are so cool. I think 326 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: we've all heard a couple of these, but like the 327 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: clock one is so neat Um. The idea of kind 328 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: of checking yourself to see how much time has passed 329 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: like the closest analog to that that I can think of. 330 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: I haven't done the clock thing, but like, I'm really 331 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: bad at sleeping on planes, and I know, no, it's 332 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: not the easiest thing in the world to do. But 333 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: I can usually tell when I've fallen asleep by like 334 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: waking up during a movie that's playing and then realizing 335 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: that I've like half remembered some of the plot, because 336 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I have this habit where I if I fall asleep 337 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: during a movie, I will still sort of know what's 338 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: going on. I never fully fall asleep, and I'm sort 339 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: of like experiencing it in the background, sort of like 340 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: white noise is um, and then I'll wake up and 341 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I'll sort of have a sense of what's going on, 342 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: but I'll realize some time has passed and I've missed 343 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: some little, you know, in between details, like some some 344 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: things that kind of connected a few things. But I 345 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: understand generally where what's happening in the movie. I don't 346 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: never feel completely lost or that I've missed some you know, 347 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: big moment um. I don't know, guys, did any of 348 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: these in particular resonate with you. I know that the 349 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: THHC element was yeah, for sure, Yeah, because I do. 350 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I did a lot of research in the lucid dreaming 351 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: in the past. But I will share one funny story again, 352 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: not to uh center myself too much, but one one 353 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: thing that I thought would give everybody a chuckle. I 354 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: thought I was lucid dreaming a couple of times in 355 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: real life. Uh one time in particular. Not gonna disclose 356 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: the circumstances that led to my befuddlement here, fellow conspiracy realist, 357 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: But I stared at the clock on my oven for 358 00:21:54,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: about eight very confused minutes one early after noon before 359 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I realized that four seventy five is a temperature, not 360 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: a time, and that's and I was indeed awake. You 361 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: can blur the lines, you know. Polyphasic sleeping can help 362 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: with lucid dreaming too. But you're one oh one, that 363 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: one am reference that really hit for you, like you 364 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: basically experienced that exact thing. There's no four D and 365 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven o'clock. That's awesome. Well I I yeah, I 366 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: had forgotten that I an earlier version of me a 367 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: few minutes ago. I had decided to cook something, which 368 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: was a bad idea. Give me my mental circumstances at 369 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: the time, that's the best way to put it diplomatically. 370 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, an areo nuts dream Astronauts. I love it. 371 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: I do this stuff all really, jeez. I've really bruised 372 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: up the center of my palms since we started the segment. 373 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: I've been trying to get my finger through there, but 374 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: it's just not working. No, no, no, the test is working, 375 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: tests working. I love that one. Yeah, that again, there's 376 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: probably that. That's I think that must be a personal 377 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: version of like any kind of check you can do, 378 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: like like I was saying in the inception with the 379 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: spinning top, but you can't really spin a top if 380 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: you're in bed and that requires a little too much 381 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: awareness to lean over and pick up an object. And 382 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: this is something you can do just right there without 383 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: having to move too much. Um, that's really cool. I 384 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: really want to try some of these. I don't know 385 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: that I'm personally disciplined enough to train myself to do this, 386 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna damn well try um, because I really 387 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: do want to be It would be such a cool 388 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: superpower to be able to control this stuff. And I think, 389 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, what do you guys think is the is 390 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: the jury still out on the science of this, Like 391 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: is it are there experts that can just do this 392 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: and we know they can? Or is there some like yeah, sure, 393 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: like you know, maybe you can or maybe you can't. 394 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: There is a way so you can. You can tell 395 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: a little bit, right, We can use um, we can 396 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: use that of people's brain waves to figure out what 397 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: part of the sleep cycle they're in. Uh. And we 398 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: know that there seems to be UM, I have to 399 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: look back into this little bit more, but we we 400 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: know that there are key changes in the brain that 401 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: are responsible for certain states that are indicative of dreaming. 402 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: Not just looking at someone's eyes moved rapidly, but one 403 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: thing that may help help you know as well as 404 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to try a kind of a crash 405 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: course in this is UH. First, you're gonna want to 406 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: limit your UH intake of intoxicants, and that doesn't just 407 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: mean like alcohol or marijuana or whatever your vices. That 408 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: also means stuff like UH stimulants like caffeine limited. Dial 409 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: it back as you can, and then I would recommend 410 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: trying the wake back to bed method. I used to 411 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: do this a lot. You set your alarm for maybe 412 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: a couple of hours after after you initially go to sleep, 413 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: and then when you wake up, just hang out for 414 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: a few minutes and then go back to sleep, and 415 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: you're more likely to have a lucid dream, or you 416 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: will if you regularly engage with this, And that's that's 417 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: part of the reason, by the way that people sometimes 418 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you've ever had a really intense dream 419 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: or a nightmare, if you've ever woken up and said, 420 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: I can't go back to sleep because I'm gonna be 421 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: right back there and that felt too real for me. 422 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: That guy was eating people's teeth and I'm just gonna 423 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: wait until dawn or I'm gonna play tetris or something. Uh. 424 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: That's part of the idea here is that when you're 425 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: waking up for very short amount of time, you're not 426 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: all the way awake, and in that dream wake sleep 427 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: that gray border between the two and that's where you 428 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: encounter um lucid dreaming stuff. So that might work. You 429 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: want me like text you at three am and say 430 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: it's an emergency and then wait five minutes ago. Never mind, 431 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: Now I get all this stuff. Now this is this 432 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: is really really fast, and I'm gonna try some of 433 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: these methods, uh, starting tonight. But I guess the the 434 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: takeaway here though, And this was a follow up, so 435 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly when we talked about it, but 436 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: was just the idea it was. I think it was 437 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: a study about how marijuana affects sleep cycles, and like 438 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: the discussion over what happens when you stop and how 439 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: can make your dreams really like bonkers and how when 440 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: you're stoned it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna have psychedelic dreams. 441 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: It's more when you stop that you have these out 442 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: there dreams. It wasn't yeah, it wasn't long ago. Uh, 443 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: but yeah, you can go back and listen to that episode. 444 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: I believe it was also a listener mail. We got 445 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot of responses about this. Actually a lot of you. 446 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: When you stop smoking marijuana, you have crazy dreams. So congratulations. 447 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Uh it sounds like maybe we all tried the experiment. 448 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah no, n not yet. One day. I'm working on it. 449 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: Fair enough, guys, throw me under the bus. Oh man, 450 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: I was just looking up an article about the study 451 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: behind this that we reference, and an ad came up 452 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: for the Forever spin top made in Canada. They're these 453 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: like really pricey bespoke little tops. They're like really really 454 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: like heavy and fancy steel, are different alloys and stuff 455 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: like couples apiece. But that's just so funny. Is the 456 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: Internet listening to me? Probably? Uh? But in the meantime, 457 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: while we sort that out, let's take a quick break 458 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: and then come back with some more letters from you. 459 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: And we're back, and we are jumping to an email 460 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: titled the Man from thirty nine oh six a d. 461 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: It comes to us via Chance a k A Lost Lizard, 462 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: and it goes like this, Hey, guys, my name is Chance. 463 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: You can use my name. I was wondering if you've 464 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: ever covered the man who went to thirty nine oh 465 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: six a D and came back to tell the tale. 466 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: I've gone back through the catalog and could not find 467 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Paul Amadeus d Knock D I E N A c 468 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: H in any past episodes. Maybe my checking skills suck. Anyways, 469 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: there is an s there. Anyways, Here's the story of 470 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: a man named Paul Amadeus di Nuck, a Swiss Austrian 471 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: who in the early nineteen twenties spent a whole year 472 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: in a coma due to encephalitis lethargica. Upon awakening, he 473 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: moves to Greece to pursue a better work and better 474 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: living conditions. And here is where he catalogs his experience 475 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: he had throughout his coma, claiming his spirit get this 476 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: was transferred to someone in the year thirty nine oh 477 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: six a D. Again, that's from the nineteen twenties. Um 478 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: carefully and then he carefully detailed the events that occurred 479 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: during his coma in a diary. Topics range from two 480 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: years of work service, to the new species of humans 481 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: that evolve in the future, to the populating and eventual 482 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: catastrophe that occurs on Mars. Dinock records his experiences in 483 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: his personal diary, translated later by one of his students, 484 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: George p who was a professor of law and a 485 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: rector of pen Panteon University in Greece. I'm not sure 486 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: how to say that the writing was also in the 487 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: hands of the Freemasons at one point, oh boy, and 488 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: regarded as a law to some degree. Now he gives 489 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: us the title of a book here Chronicles from the Future. 490 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: The Amazing Story of Paul Amadeus Dinock is the book, 491 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: and it can be found easily online on Amazon. I 492 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: can confirm you can find it right now, both there 493 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: and on good Reads. I'm still currently reading through it, 494 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: but I'm excited to unfold everything that I briefly learned 495 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: about his detail and somewhat fortune telling is all too 496 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: real and accurate, especially the idea of humans populating Mars 497 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: as I believe that idea wasn't really a quote hot 498 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: topic in the nineteen twenties. Well yeah, well we'll get it. 499 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: I saw you, ben, We'll get into that. Um uh, 500 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: that's when he was alive. Nonetheless, maybe you guys can 501 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: unfold the truths that lie beneath the surface of Dino's account. Regardless, 502 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: it's a dope story. Wow, I really should have read 503 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: more of your email in a Boston accent. Chance, I apologize. Well, guys, 504 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Chance gave us something here that I had never heard about. 505 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: I think, Ben I I'm surprised this has never come 506 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: across my desk. I'm wondering if maybe it has. And 507 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: I put it away for some reason because this book 508 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: has been out since nineteen seventy three. Yeah, I haven't 509 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: this is this is new to me as well. I 510 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: was able to do just a little bit of reading. 511 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm probably going to pick up the book just because 512 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: I think that kind of stuff is fascinating. Uh, But 513 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: I right now, I'm just astonished a Chance you did 514 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: us a tremendous favor because I think this was something 515 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: that's new to all three of us. It does remind 516 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: me of a conversation, kind of a life hack conversation 517 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: I've seen before where someone says, if you're going to 518 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: make something up, and I'm not saying I'm not saying 519 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: this guy is, if you're gonna make something up, be 520 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: very specific, So don't say I was transported to the 521 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: year three thousand, say three thousand, nine oh six just 522 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: that time. But he had a lot of it far 523 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: enough in the future's nobody who's living right now can 524 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: fact check. Yeah, don't even if it seems like a 525 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: safe lie. Don't come back and say I was in 526 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: the year and the Patriots one or something like that. 527 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, even it's the statistics seem on your side. 528 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: It's a dangerous game. And this is not to be 529 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: dismissive of this, because again, I don't think any of 530 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the three of us have read this account yet. I'd 531 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: be really interested to know how it was curated. If 532 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: it's just published, you know, in seventy three by his 533 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: friend Papa Chatz is uh, with minimal editing, or if 534 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: it was kind of you know, like the way the 535 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: stories about men in Black got shaped by successive sort 536 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: of again curators of a story, if not original authors. Uh. 537 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: And there are a couple of really great breadcrumbs in here, 538 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: and chance, I hope you agree, one of one of 539 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: which is the question about a new evolution of human beings. 540 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: Darwin tells us that up until very recently, that kind 541 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: of speciation took much much longer. Right, so, a lot 542 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: of a lot of our academics and signed tistem biologists 543 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: in the crowd are going to be saying, well, even 544 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: two thousand years isn't really enough time for a lot 545 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: of stuff to happen, unless there's like a bottleneck or 546 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: a near extinction event stuff like that. But what's interesting here, 547 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: I would say, is that it is possible, where it 548 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: will be possible soon to use genetic engineering to create 549 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: humans that are you know, if ethics don't get in 550 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: the way, they're very different from the people who are 551 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: listening to this show in two So so that is 552 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: actually possible, And he wouldn't have known about genetic engineering 553 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: at this point, absolutely not. Um Also the way in 554 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: which we will leave, they're currently steps being taken to 555 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: integrate humans and technology. But you know we've talked we 556 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: talked about that on the show as well, Like the 557 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: integration of technology into the human body could also create 558 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: some other form of human depending on how we go 559 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: about that, especially if you combine that with genetic engineering. 560 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, we could look and feel very 561 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: differently in the future. So, guys, I haven't had time 562 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: to actually like fact check a lot of this stuff. 563 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of the things that supposedly 564 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: have occurred, at least according to a reddit thread have 565 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: not occurred that were predicted within this book. Um. There 566 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: you can read up on. I think it's the sub 567 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: reddit the o A. Do you guys remember the show 568 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: The A? And in there there is a post from 569 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: two years ago titled I Guess Dimensional Travel is real? 570 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: The Paul Dinack story. And within here, it's just got 571 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: some interesting discussions, some interesting points, and there are several 572 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: people in there. It's not a huge thread, by the way. 573 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: There are several people in there just pointing out a 574 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: list of things that that were predicted, I suppose, and 575 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: the dates associated with the um. And it is done 576 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: in a way, guys that it feels like if you 577 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: wanted to believe it, you could put your you know, 578 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: you could put your belief into it. But most of 579 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: it is so specific and not exactly that that it 580 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: is just kind of like whoever wrote this story, you know, 581 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: was kind of shooting in the dark. UM. But it 582 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: is worth I think it's worth us going over maybe 583 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: in more detail at some point. I have not read 584 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: the book, just like you been, but I'm interested. I 585 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think is it worth us 586 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: diving into any further? I mean, we could definitely not 587 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: just look at this, but we could look at other 588 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: similar claims of people who have who who believe that 589 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: they have somehow gained knowledge about the future and shared 590 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: it with their version of the present. Uh, there's some 591 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: interesting research we could do about the state of consciousness 592 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: during and comatose period and what it means to come back. 593 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: We could also, I don't know, we could look at 594 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: the nature of belief here. I am going to get 595 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: this book, by the way. I think it's an excellent recommendation. 596 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for stuff to read. But but one 597 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: of the things that I think it's really important for 598 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: us to emphasize whenever we talk about this stuff is 599 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: that none of what we are saying means that this 600 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: guy was actively trying to deceive people. He may genuinely 601 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: have believed it all to be true, right, So we're 602 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: not accusing him as Shenanigans at this point. No. I mean, 603 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: maybe it was an incredible dream like state that he experienced, right, 604 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: And the way we were discussing lucid dreams prior to this, 605 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: When when you're in those states, it is very difficult 606 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: if you're not trained to know if you're actually living 607 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: and experiencing something or not. That's what makes nightmares so terrifying. Yeah, 608 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there's something there. Maybe there's something we 609 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: just currently don't understand that big s science doesn't understand 610 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: about consciousness. There's a lot we don't understand about consciousness. 611 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: But you know, whether or not it's transferable, whether or 612 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: not you know it can travel fifth dimensionally or whatever 613 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: we want to call time travel for that is that 614 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: the fourth dimension? I'm sorry, guys, Uh, we don't. You know, 615 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: we're unaware because we've never been able to see it 616 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: or tested in that way yet. But who knows. What 617 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: if it's impossible future or an alternate future. Maybe he 618 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: saw a future, but just not this timelines. I think 619 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: logically all of us can assume that once humanity gets 620 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: to Mars, we're gonna mess the place up even further. 621 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: Some stuff is gonna go wrong, and then we'll need 622 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: to go to another planet right eventually, not saying immediately, Uh, 623 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: but we'll probably do similarly what we did to Earth 624 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: to Mars or no. No, no, that's that's why type man, 625 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. I don't know how else we would 626 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: do it. I guess that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I 627 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: think it's fascinating. Though it's it's worth uh, it's worth 628 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: exploring the possibilities because this is not necessarily a unique case. 629 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: I would imagine maybe the specific specificity of the year 630 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: is and the claims, but this kind of experience an 631 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: epiphany during times of great mental turmoil, it happens. That's, 632 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, part of the reason profits are quoted in 633 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: religious works. All right, again, we have not read this book. 634 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna readview some of the things that are supposedly 635 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: contained within it. According to a Reddit thread, look how 636 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: good at journalism we are? Okay, So here's here's just 637 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: a bulleted list. We can go down these. According to 638 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: the book, in the future humans have regular contact with 639 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: some form of aliens. In the future, humans are harvesting quote, 640 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: gravitational energy. I don't know what that interesting. I don't 641 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: know what gravitational energy is. I've only seen that like 642 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: some sci fi the idea of like harvesting that kind 643 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: of energy. Maybe an interstellar I can't remember something that 644 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: gravitational waves. Maybe, but I don't know how there would 645 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: be enough energy there for us to Maybe I'm just 646 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: science stupid. I I perhaps I am. I'm not sure, 647 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: but according to this thread again about this book, in 648 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: the future, we are traveling as humans through spiritual energy 649 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: and we can physically see souls go out come in. 650 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: Apparently in the future, all medication that you would normally 651 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: get for something that is wrong with you is replaced 652 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: instead with meditation. Got it? Uh? Using that soul stuff 653 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: like this next one a bunch of new age crap. 654 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: That's a fun one. That's kind of a catch all. 655 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: And prefer a little more specificity there, but I can 656 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: dig it like no age crap. The sequel. Yeah, it's 657 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: interesting that this person, you know, this tale is supposedly 658 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: recorded in these journals between nineteen twenty two and ninety four, 659 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: because this person that is being written about only lived 660 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: two years after he awoke from the coma that he 661 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: was in, and then it was published in nineteen seventy three. 662 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: So if there was any styling done on this book 663 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: or the translation of it from because it was translated 664 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: in different languages, Uh, some weirdness could have happened through 665 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: all of those processes, the translating than the publishing. Given 666 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: fifty years anyway, weird stuff here, guys, I guess right in. 667 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: Tell us what you think about this. We want to 668 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: hear from you, yeah, right in, especially if you're from 669 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: the future. Uh tell us how how the book is 670 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: doing over there? And if you like books, I guess 671 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: we kind of have one from from the future or 672 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: it's coming out in the future. Uh stuff. They want 673 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: you to know the book. We love it. If you 674 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: preorder it, then we'd love it even more. 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