1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. This is why you know I should 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: be a mechanic. I was working in the shed this morning. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting the garden ready and I never saw that 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: snake before. Like, holy smokes, and this snake stood up 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: and went right at me. That's bad as the stays 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: to love me, lack of on to be loved by you, 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. Well, trying to be a farmer, but 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: it's not really working today. Well you see, that's just 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: God in the universe showing you that you're a really 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: good mechanic and that you're an okay farmer. But you 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: gotta learn how to deal with snakes and mice. Welcome 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five, live 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: six and now running. You know, pity the poor spark plug. 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you think about your plugs often enough, 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the problem with cars today. 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story like this, because I'm seeing 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: a rash of this and I sort of expected that 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: we were going to go here as cars started to 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: roll again, and we're clearly cars are rolling along and 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: we're we're slowly starting to you know, the shops picking 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: up speed and people are trying to get out and 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: go places. So we had an O eight ssion that 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: came into the shop this week hundred forty six thousand 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: miles on it or so, and it's it's it's got 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: a running rough problem. It's it's misfiring on one cylinder. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: We pulled codes has a P zero three oh three. 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: It's got a you know, a misfire fault on one cylinder. 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: And you know that could be that could be mechanical, 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: that could be fuel, that could be ignition, that could 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: be a couple of things. Right, eliminated McCann uncle right 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: off the bat. We're using the new A T S 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: H E SCAM Plus from the folks over at A T. S. 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: Bernie Thompson and Company. And we're doing a cranking compression 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: test through the O B D two port now on cars, 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: which is kind of neat think about this technology, right, 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's an O B D D dongle that 42 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: goes into the port. You hold your foot to the 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: floor to put the car in wide open flood mode. 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: You set up the I'm using a little uh surface 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: pro tablet and just you know, crank the car and 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: it will record. It knows the firing order off the vent, 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: and it records the voltage drop as each cylinder comes 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: around on compression, and it knows the firing warner, and 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: it can tell you you have a bad cylinder. Low cylinder. 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, the starter voltage vary as it approaches. As 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: that cylinder approaches compression will pick out a bad cylinder. 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: And I knew it wasn't mechanically, that wasn't the issue. 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: I knew I had an ignition or fuel system fault. 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: At this point, That's where my my head was going. 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: As I looked at old trims, they were all over 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: the place. They kind of indicated to me ignition. So 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: let's go tackle ignition. Hunter forty six thousand miles. I've 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: never put spark plugs in this car. I've only been 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: working on it, you know, a little while, not really 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: a whole lot. And it was time. So I pulled 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: number three, Number three, the cylinder that was being reported 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: as the as the fault, and uh yeah, okay. I 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: pulled number three out and the coil came out, the 64 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: plug came out. The plug was clearly tired. These plugs 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: are normally gapped at forty two thousand's. The edge of 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: the electrode was worn away and they were they were 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: worn down to a knob. They were somewhere around eighty 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: eight thousands gap. It was more than double. So you know, 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're dealing with ignition. That was the 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: easy part of the diagnosis. Now I gotta take out 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: cylinders one and two. Four came out, no problem. But 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: now I've got to get the coil out of cylinders 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: one and two. Right, this has direct and ignition coils 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: that sit right on top of the plugs. And the 75 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: last genius that that did spark plugs, if they were 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: ever done, and I have proof that they were some 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: form of them were done, I didn't use release compound 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: dielectric grease, that little clear grease that we put on 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: the end of wires to help them not just seal 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: but also come apart. In the case of spark plug boots, 81 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: and the coil came out no boot. Now, if you 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: ever see a psion X day, the guys that designed 83 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: it said, well, we're gonna make this so that nobody 84 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: can never work on anything much less ever want to 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: fix it. So we'll just to drive the car still 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: it blows up and then by a new one. And 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: I guess that ideology kind of works. So you can't 88 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: see down the spark plug. Well, you have to use 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: a mirror and a flashlight looking at it at an 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: angle because the engine is recessed under the forward edge 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: of the windshield, which extends out through the cowl over 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: the top of the engine compartment. The wonder these cars 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: are obsolutely they should have been obsoletely ten years ago. 94 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: I think they were good. Somebody's listening and I go 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: to pick the boot out, and you can't get the 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: boot of This boot is just this boot is stuck 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: tighter to the plug than Tom Ray is to the 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: cranberry ash, potatoes and gravy on Thanksgiving. It's just not 99 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: gonna let go. Hey, behave yourself. And what do you do. 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: You can't pick it out, all right, You can't pull 101 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: it out. You can't get a pair of needle nose 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: down in there, and I thought about it. This is 103 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: a cup of team moment, right, you have to sort 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: of sit back and and and get a grip on yourself. 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: And what do I have in the arsenal? What what 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: little wacky goofy tool do I have that I've forgotten 107 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: that I have because I probably bought it when Oh, 108 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: I'll take that because I'll need it someday. I must 109 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: have something. Companied by the name of Steelman Pro makes these. 110 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: They're the size of traditional spark plug sockets five eighths 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: um you know, uh, thirteen, sixteen and so on. And 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: it's a round socket, but it has whole saw teeth 113 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: on the bottom, and it's got a square drive tang 114 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: in the top. And I shot a little carburetor cleaner, 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: still have mine, I still have my can left to you, 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: And shot a little carburettor cleaner down into the bottom 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: of the well, filled it up, let it soak. And 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: you take this socket with the sharp teeth on it, 119 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: using the appropriate size, and you drive it down and 120 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: it it sucks the rubber away from the metal wall 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: until finally you either chew enough of the boot up 122 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: or you have the boot now ensconced in the socket 123 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: and you just merely pull it up. First problem solved. 124 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: I got through the two cylinders one to three that 125 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: was pretty cut and dry, not one through three. It 126 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: took a little bit of effort, but you know, I 127 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: wasn't there for days, all right. It was, you know, 128 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: probably twenty minutes a hole. So I gotta pull the plugs. 129 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: And I took my mirror and I looked in as 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: best I could, were at a real cock eyed angle, 131 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, all the rubber pieces are out, no problem. 132 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: I shot down there with a little air just to 133 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: make sure kind of circulate and pull up and make 134 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: sure there's no bits and pieces. Plug came out of two. 135 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: It was a dense ol. Plug came out of one 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: it was a bosch. The plug finally came out of four. 137 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: It was an n g K. I figured out, what 138 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: the heck, let's get everybody in here. The plug, what 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: it was out of three, was a dense O also, 140 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: so the two centers were dense o's. The two ends 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: were odd ball. So somebody had done plugs once before, 142 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: but obviously didn't do didn't do it right. They didn't 143 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: do what they were supposed to do. Put some dielectric 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: rease on the plugs. That isn't the lack of respect part. 145 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: That isn't the bad part. Well, the whole thing is 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: a lack of respect part. You gotta think about spark 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: plugs once in a while. So I went to put 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the new plugs in, and I looked down with my 149 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: light and again it's kind of hard to see, and 150 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I caught out of the corner of my eye this 151 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: tiny little piece of rubber boot that was still in 152 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: number one that I didn't see the first time because 153 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: it's so difficult to get yourself down in there, because 154 00:07:53,720 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: you've got overhanging mirrors and lights. And as I'm looking 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: at it, it falls in the hall. M hm uhh. 156 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I sat there and I thought about it for a minute. 157 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: I said, gee, it's a tiny little piece of rubber 158 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: in a cylinder with metallic components. I wonder, will it 159 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: chew it up? Will it break something? I don't see 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: how it could. It's a little bit of spark plug boot, 161 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I wonder. I have a device in the shop called 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: the bor Scope, and it basically it gives me the 163 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: ability like a doctor. I can go down and look 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: in the cylinder and get some nice clean shots of 165 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: top of the piston looking for defects at mechanical you 166 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: know what does the backside of the valves look like? 167 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: That type of thing. It's a boor scope, like a 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: carpenter or a plumber might use in a pipe or 169 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: in the wall to see what's there. We're using it 170 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: in the engine. Took the poor scope. It's a good 171 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: reason to get it out. I don't use it a lot. 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's stretches, and sure enough there's this little tiny 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: piece of rubber sitting right on top of the piston, like, oh, 174 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: come on, now, I can't get a pick tool in there. 175 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: I tried everything. I put a little dumb dumb on 176 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: the end of a on the end of a flexible 177 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: nozzle and kind of, you know, fished around trying to 178 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, tack it out, tack it out, tack it out. 179 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: Couldn't get it out, couldn't get the grips down there, 180 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: couldn't get a needle nose obviously in there. I tried 181 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: using a long pick tool, a piece of wire to 182 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: stab it and try and nothing. I thought about it. 183 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, the problem solving is one of the great 184 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: things about order repaired. It's what gives me the rush 185 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you sort of got 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: to think outside the box. So I said, well, I said, 187 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: it can only hurt something if it actually has no 188 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: place to go and collides with it. So what if 189 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: we did this and I put the rest of it together. 190 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I put, you know, three plugs, three coils, put it 191 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: together and started it missing one spark plug, the one 192 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: on number one. Sure made a racket. Well you gotta 193 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: hear that, Poppeta, popeta, popeta pop But I'll tell you what. 194 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: It blew the rubber out. And after I shut it off, 195 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: after I let it run for about a minute, and I, 196 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: by the way, I should point out you should do 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: this too if you try this, disabled the injector. I 198 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: disabled the jector because I didn't want to fuel wash 199 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the cylinder because the cylinder will continue to spray. And 200 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: sure enough, the piece of rubber was gone. Put it together, 201 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the car runs perfect un gone down the road. Next. 202 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the little things that lead to the bigger 203 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: things that lead to the moments of oh. And in 204 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: order to avoid the oh, you have to be always 205 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: thinking all the time in order repair, and you've always 206 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: got to be one step ahead order repairs. All like 207 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: doing this radio show. I don't do to one I 208 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: don't do two hours of radio every weekend. I do 209 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: to one hour shows that are comprised comprised of sixty 210 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: one minute shows that are comprised of you know, so 211 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: many ten second shows. And on that note, I'm gonna 212 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: pull over from this ten second and take a pause 213 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: because Tom Ray's about to tell me I'm up against 214 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: the clock nine zero. The car Doctors coming back right 215 00:10:51,480 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: after this. Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go, 216 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you've come to the right place to get that car fixed. 217 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: Ron Andandy in the Car Doctor five five five zero 218 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: zero zero, now backter on, And I think, if I 219 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: have to close out my opening comments in one way 220 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: or another, I think I wanted to be this. If 221 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: you do replace spark plugs on your vehicle at the 222 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: hundred thousand mile mark or the hundred and fifty thousand 223 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: mile mark, or whenever you do, talk to your mechanic, 224 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: ask them how hard is you know? How what successibility? 225 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: In the case of this scion, it was it was 226 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: mandatory because the coils basically disintegrated right in front of me. 227 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the boots came apart. The boots fell apart. 228 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: But the issue became that you know, it's it's because 229 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: the plugs were I mean, the plugs were worned twice 230 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: what they normally were. I have I've had Alexis in 231 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: the shop this week. I've had a Dodge Caravan in 232 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: the shop this week. Both required the upper intake manifold 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: be removed. We changed the coils, the ones that were 234 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: hard to get to on both vehicles simply because of 235 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: age and mileage, even though they were working, because they're 236 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: prone to failure, especially after a hundred thousand miles, especially 237 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: when the plugs are worn excessively because they haven't been replaced. 238 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: And what are you gonna do? Pay labor to take 239 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: it all apart all over again, to change a hundred 240 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: dollar coil or a hundred and twenty five dollar coil. 241 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: Your money, your choice, but just think about it. The 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: money you save, maybe your own. Let's get the garage. 243 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's get the garage doors open and get the phones going. 244 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Scott and Kansas. Scott, 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes? 246 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: Thank you on You'll appreciate you taking my call. Thank you, 247 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: appreciate you being there. Yeah, I just want to thank 248 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: you and Tom for taking time out of your weekends 249 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: to put this show together and help us audio motive 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: enthusiasts gained some knowledge and what we enjoy doing. Well, 251 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: we're glad to do it. You know. I gotta tell you, 252 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm blessed because I have a guy like Tom Ray. 253 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: I bust his chops a lot, and he busts mine. 254 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. That man could get me 255 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: on the air with a juice cannon a string in 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the Sahara desert. So and he has 257 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: sometimes that's the scary art. Um. Yeah. Well, he's just 258 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: good at what he does. He really is, he really is. 259 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: He's a talent. What can I do for you today, Scott? 260 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: What do you got going on? Yeah? So, Uh, I'm 261 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: part of a family farm here in Kansas, and uh, 262 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: thank you, hey, thank you for what you do. You 263 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: know what, the farmers are the backbone of this country, 264 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: along with so many other essential workers that we don't 265 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: give enough credit to you guys. So, but I don't 266 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: mean to interrupt it. Yeah, go ahead, Scott, No, thank you, 267 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that it's been it's been a 268 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: tough year to start off with here with you know, 269 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: commodity prices are pretty pretty rough right now. But there's 270 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: always there's always light the end of the tunnel. It'll 271 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: come around one of these days. But yeah, we have 272 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: so we utilize some older pickups. Uh, we all know 273 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: how expensive these newer pickups are getting. And there's just 274 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: some chores and tasks on a farm. They're just just 275 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: hard on the vehicles and it's hard to take a 276 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: pickup and and go put Danson scratches on it. And 277 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: so we have in particular one nineteen ninety to nine 278 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: into GM pickups and those are all O B D 279 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: one trucks. And right now, the only thing I have 280 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: is a device that plugs into the port and shorts 281 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the two pins together and then you just count the 282 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: flashing check engine light to get to get the code. 283 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: And I was wondering, if you had the proper diagnostics tool, 284 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: how much information can a guy get out of an 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: O B D one GM pick up to help them 286 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: troubleshoot them and keep them running. Right, I didn't know 287 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: O B D one is too is it? Is it 288 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: too primitive because it's it's a slow computer. I mean 289 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: the processor speed is slow, but you can still get 290 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: data stream. There will be some bi directional function depending 291 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: upon what you're working on. Bi directional by that, I 292 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: mean they'll be there'll be moments where in a diagnosis 293 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: you can turn a solenoid on and off with the 294 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: right tool. Again, depending upon the VA going to need. 295 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: A lot of it had to do with how much 296 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: technology the manufacturer put into the vehicle, and you know, 297 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: in order for it to be repaired and diagnosed by 298 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: their dealer. Text at the time, I've got to say, 299 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, and I believe this there O b D. 300 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: One tool, in my opinion, was one of the best, 301 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: and that's the snap on brick, the MT. You know, 302 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: there's a tool that's that has stood the test of time. 303 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: They're still out there. I miss using mine. I still 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: have mind sitting on my It's sitting up on the 305 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: top shelf of the shop in the back room now 306 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: tucked away because we don't really use it a lot, 307 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: and it's there if I need it. But the nice 308 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: thing about the brick was, besides ease of use, there 309 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: was a troubleshooter cartridge with you know, tips and tricks 310 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: things that other people had written and said hey, I 311 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: did this to fix this or I did that to 312 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: fix this, and it basically you know, it's it's it's 313 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: it's it's a database. It's a research database that's been 314 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: verified and it gives a lot of test procedures. And 315 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: I think they're cheap, Scott, I'd be out looking on eBay, 316 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: but I think I don't think they're five bucks anymore. 317 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're really dirt cheap for an NO B 318 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: D one scan tool. I don't think there's anything better. Yeah, 319 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: I've I've actually heard you talk to about those MT 320 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: and I did. I have been on eBay, and you're right, 321 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: there's there's several of them out there, and some of 322 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: them in really good condition. And uh, what do they say? Well, 323 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: they're going anywhere from two hundred dollars up to six 324 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: hundred dollars depending on how many of those cartridges and 325 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: the keys and the adapters they come with. Because it 326 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: sounds like, uh, there's there's quite a bit more than 327 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: just the standard plug you get with an O B 328 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: D two tool. There's there's well I was wondering, but 329 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: there must be several differences. That's because that's because that 330 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: tool to show you it's it's it's basis in this foundation. 331 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: That tool grew from O b D one, then it 332 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: did some O b D two and then as obie 333 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: D two grew, they had identifier chips and keys and 334 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: you know, different methods of identifying different cars. You know, 335 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: we're we're so spoiled. Now we plug in in the 336 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: scan tool automatically identifies what it's working on and it's 337 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's But you know, what, what will 338 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: you need? You'll need the domestic cartridge and the fast 339 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: track troubleshooter domestic. You know, do you really need import Uh? 340 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't think anybody on 341 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: the farmers buying a Toyota or Honda anytime soon. Uh, 342 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, and if you are, you're probably not working 343 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: on it because it's a modern car. And for that 344 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: you really need an O B D two, a better 345 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: dedicated O B D two scan tool if you follow 346 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so I would I would focus on, 347 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: you know, what kind of shape are the cables in? 348 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: You know, what's the what's the newest version of software 349 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: that you can get, you know, the latest version of software. 350 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: And I think you'll be fine. I don't think you 351 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: can make a bad choice there. And uh, you know, 352 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: just there's plenty of spare parts out there should you 353 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: ever need one. Scott, I appreciate the all again. Thank 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: you for all that you and the farmers and everyone 355 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: else in this country, the essential workers do, and thanks 356 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: for being part of this radio show today and going forward, 357 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: for for the for the for the future. I'm runing 358 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Adian the Car Doctor. We are back right after this. Hey, 359 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're any of the Car Doctor. If you 360 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: do one thing this weekend, one thing and you you're 361 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: interested in this, go to your computer and google cash 362 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: for clunkersh Yep, they're bringing it back. Remember the last 363 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: cash for clunkers the baccle back in two thousand nine, 364 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: after the after the recession, the Great Recession, and they 365 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: they gave vouchers for cars that were, you know, of 366 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: certain value or no value. And they're trying to stimulate 367 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: the economy. Because at the time I'm while they're doing 368 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: it again, you know, Ford and GM for example, I 369 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: was just reading or burning through anywhere from a hundred 370 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: and ten to a hundred and fifty million dollars a day. 371 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: All right, just to keep the doors open and the 372 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: lights on. So it's a little over a billion a 373 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: week in some estimates, as as as high as that. 374 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's it's it's gonna be bad. 375 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: They want to bring back cash for clunkers to jump 376 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: start the economy in order to get people to buy 377 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: cars again. But the problem is if we have to 378 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: give the cars away, how much profit is there in 379 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: the car and for the car companies? Number one? Number 380 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: two can people really afford it? Number three? Are we 381 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: throwing away perfectly good cars and wasting valuable natural resources 382 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: that it took to make that car? And there's a 383 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: lot of factors. You're gonna take that car out of 384 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: its life cycle early, you're gonna affect a lot of things. 385 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, you are going to affect the repair industry 386 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: and people's jobs and people's livelihoods. So if you're interested 387 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: in reading about it, if you think it's a problem, 388 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: think if you notice they're not really talking about it. 389 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Somebody passed me a note this week, cash for clunkers. 390 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: They're trying to get old cars off the road again, 391 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you may want to take a 392 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: look at that and add your voice to it, and 393 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: I encourage you to do that and take a take 394 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: take a take a position. Let's get over and let's 395 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: go and talk to Ed in Pennsylvania, and I want 396 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: to talk about pickup trucks. Ed. Welcome to the car doctor. Sir. 397 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yes, sir, how are you? I 398 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: have a question for you over regarding I'd like to 399 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: get you an expert guidance on buying a big block 400 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: gas engine, specifically for throwing heavy loads. UM. I have 401 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: two pickup trucks that I purchased the last six years. 402 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: The first was a Chevy and that was the first 403 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: pickup truck I bought. Being new to having one. I 404 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: didn't know much about it, and I board a dump 405 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: trailer and I quickly crushed my rear rims, so I 406 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: realized I needed to upgrade. A few years later, I 407 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: board Dodge Dodge Diesel, which is a great vehicle, specific 408 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: mostly for the fact that it didn't have a lot 409 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: of electronic bills and whistles that a lot of modern 410 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: deals have. And UH, that can is ready for fifteen 411 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: thousand pounds, I can hold eighteen to twenty. But in 412 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I've been starting to hold 413 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: heavier and heavier loads, and I'm looking for something that 414 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: can hauld the thousand plus weight limit. And I've seen 415 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: that Ford has come out with a new seven point 416 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: three Leader gas engine. So I was looking for a 417 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: Ford at four fifty eight and the seventh point three 418 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: Leader gas and I was curious as to what you 419 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: thought about that in comparison to the Chevy Series and 420 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: the Dodge equivalent. Okay, I'm not a Dodge guy. They're okay, 421 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Um of late Chrysler. It always comes back to getting parts, Eddie, 422 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: and Chrysler is one of the worst right now, and 423 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: they have been for a while, whether whether it was, 424 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, since the days of the Mercedes bailout in 425 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: the Fiat takeover, or it's just the general marketplace. But 426 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: I tend to stay away from Chrysler as a recommendation 427 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: for a vehicle solely on parts all right and and 428 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: and available replacement pieces um number one, number two. Chrysler 429 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: makes it. Out of the three car companies we're talking about, 430 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Chrysler makes it the most difficult and the most expensive 431 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: for an independent repair shop to gain access to their 432 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: software to scan and properly diagnosed and repair the vehicle. 433 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Now what does this mean. This means that you know, 434 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: if you take it to an independent repair shop or 435 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: an independent truck shop, you know, are they going to 436 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: have the same capability as the dealer. It depends on 437 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: their level of tool, and they're gonna have to invest 438 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: more in a Chrysler than they would in the Ford 439 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: in the GM in order to have that capacity, and 440 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: they may need to. Not a repair requires it, but 441 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: they may need to. And I can't. I can't support 442 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: a car company that things like that. Comparison Christler Factory 443 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: scan tool, buying the tool and the yearly software update 444 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: last time I looked was about six grand. The four 445 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: tool was the yearly update is nine. The GM tool 446 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: is about four the yearly update is about fifteen. So, 447 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, cost comparison, I think if you're going to 448 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: an independent shop that does heavy truck, I think your 449 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: chances of getting it repaired when a time comes. You know, 450 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: the Chevy and the Ford is probably gonna level the 451 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: level the table for you. So that being said, I 452 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of experience with the four fifties. 453 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I can say this. A friend of mine has purchased 454 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: a F two fifty nothing but problems. And I've been 455 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: reading about this and we haven't really talked about it 456 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: here on the show because I haven't had the question yet. 457 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: But the new f two fifties, the new body style, 458 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: the new design, they're having issues. People are recalling what 459 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: the Jeeps did years and years ago, the death wobble 460 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: where you're driving down the road and the steering wheel 461 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: starts to shake and the truck doesn't handle correctly. Ford 462 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: has come out with a a bulletin that talks about 463 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: changing and resetting front end alignment and ending a steering stabilizer. 464 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: My friend went through that. He's I asked him, what's 465 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: it like? He goes, it's better. It's still not right, 466 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: but this is as good as they're gonna be able 467 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: to make it. So that bothers me. Their engines are okay, 468 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: but I still have to give the nod the GM. 469 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: I think the GM big block engine is better the 470 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: current generation, the seven three. I don't know if I 471 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: want to buy anything the first year it's out ed. 472 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: I really don't, you know. I I don't know if 473 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: I want to be the any pig. I think I 474 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: want to wait and see what I would do. Is. 475 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: And then the other conversation you have to have is 476 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: with your mechanic. You know, can he work on a 477 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: four or fifty or forty because you're not gonna find 478 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: many independent shops that can do that. The size of 479 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: the vehicle, the caliber or class of tools, the floor jacks, 480 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: the jack stands, the way they take tires on and off. 481 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: Two simple things are going to get to be tedious 482 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: in time consuming. So whatever you're doing, whether it's construction 483 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: or farming or you know, scrap removal, whatever it is 484 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: you're doing, you may want to consider one of two 485 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: different things. Smaller loads with a smaller trailer so that 486 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: or thirty GM product can handle it. If you went 487 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: GM way, or if you have two trucks, maybe you 488 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: buy a second trailer and run two and and run 489 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: two crews. Because the other thing you've got to think 490 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: about is like I always like I always say, you're 491 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: not just buying the vehicle. Now you've earned the right 492 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: to maintain it. And what is that going to cost? 493 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: Over the over a ten year life cycle or a 494 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: fifteen year life cycle, a truck tends to run a 495 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: little longer, and you know, maybe you don't necessarily need 496 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: that I agree there was a learning curve. It's it's 497 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: definitely too light duty of a vehicle for heavy towing. 498 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: But I think what I would tell you to try 499 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: and do is either rent or borrow, are or thirty 500 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: g m h D and toe with it. Give it 501 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: a shot, try it one weekend and you know, see 502 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: if that works. And if that works, then you know 503 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: what to buy. But I think I have to give 504 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: the edge the GM, especially if it's like I have 505 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: a nine and it's a very in today's language, in 506 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: today's world, it's a very basic truck. Not as much electronics. 507 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't have multiple so multiple similar cylinder 508 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: displacement where they're shutting cylinders on and off. It's a 509 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: very basic version of a truck as trucks should be. 510 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: And you know, not a lot of bells and whistles, 511 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: no heated seats, no heated cup holders. But it does 512 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: the job. It's the plow truck, and it does its work. 513 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: And that's all I want from it at the end 514 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: of the day. Makes sense, makes sense. Thank you very much. 515 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: You very welcome. Mayte. You stay safe out there. Five 516 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero running any of the car doctor 517 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: coming back right after this. Welcome back right. Name of 518 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor eight five five five zero nine zero 519 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: zero the Car Doctor phone number. Give us a call, 520 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: leave a message. If we're not on the ear, Tom Ray, 521 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: I'll get back to you and get you in the 522 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: next live broadcast. Let's go over to Bob and Nebraska 523 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: eighty five for Ranger. Bob, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 524 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: How can I help? Well help. It's a story that 525 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: a few weeks back one of your fellows called any 526 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: having problems with a Ford Ranger was missing every time 527 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: it rained, and it kind of brought back an old 528 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: memory of my few years back, and uh, I had 529 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: the same problem at time of rain. That thing went 530 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: just jump and jerk and go crazy. I changed the wires, 531 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: I changed the stribbitter cap. It was not a model 532 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Ford Ranger, and it got crazy. So one time I 533 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: was doing it in the middle of the night and 534 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: I pulled over and I lifted up the hood and 535 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: looked like the fourth of July into there, and I 536 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: couldn't believe what I've seen. My own eyes at the 537 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: top of the coil was just sparking everywhere. I took 538 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: what and I went, how am I going to fix this. 539 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm sixty miles away from home. So you know what 540 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: I did. I took an old plastic pop bottle, cut 541 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: the top on it, put it over the top of 542 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: that coil, and it quit sparking, and down the road 543 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: I went. But it looks like some of that ford 544 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: shot that problem. But I worked. I've done everything to 545 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: it just like that. Yeah, and I remember those days, 546 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you doing that. You know, sometimes too 547 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: back in the day is now you know, if the 548 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: plug has to work harder. Electricity is like water. It 549 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: takes the path of least resistance. So if it if 550 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: it can find an alternate path to seek ground. The 551 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: electrons are just trying to go home, right. It's just 552 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: like us, right, we always want to go home. It's 553 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: the electrons are just trying to go back to ground, 554 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: and they'll just take the path of least resistance. A 555 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: lot of times we would take a piece of rubber, 556 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: a piece of a hose and something to insulate to 557 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: keep it away from returning to ground. But the other 558 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: side of it is, you know, you'd want to know 559 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: how old were the plugs. The plugs gap properly? Uh, 560 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, is there higher than normal? And maybe not 561 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: in the case of the Ranger, but you know, is 562 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: there is there higher than normal compression in the cylinder 563 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: Believe it or not. I've seen cases on high performance engines, 564 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: and the reason they have higher output coils is because 565 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: they have to bush the electrical energy across the gap 566 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: of the plug under a higher compression, a higher cylinder pressure, 567 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: in order to jump the gap to ignite the fuel 568 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: charge and make a flame front. So but yeah, it's 569 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, electricity is interesting. Ignition systems are interesting, and 570 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: it's always, uh, it's always a curious case to sit 571 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: and watch and and and see what's going on. How 572 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: many miles did you get out of your Ranger, Bob? 573 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I think well, I retired at four hundred thousand, and 574 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: my son was in the militant be it to him. 575 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: He put probably another hundred hundred fifty. Then a deer 576 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: decided he wanted to walk out in front of it, 577 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and uh destroyed the front end heavy equipment in the army, 578 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: and he took that engine out and a buddy his 579 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: uh put it in one of his and prend of me. 580 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: So how many miles on this thing? Oh, there's probably 581 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: five thousand, so I gotta redo it. He was a 582 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: mechanic in the art in the army, and he said, 583 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: he said, you're not gonna have to do what I 584 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: think this border. You're going to find out it's just 585 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: in great shape and the kids of the ash or 586 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: five thousand. Sure, he said, well when you open it 587 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: up and go to find out that all the mains 588 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: looked good at all the rings. They never used any oil, 589 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: never leaked any oil, and it was a a secret was 590 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I should tell you the brand oil? 591 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: What was that, sir? Go ahead? Sure, absolutely, Okay, Well 592 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: it's Castro full synthetics and I used it to this day. 593 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: I've been using it for all about forty five years. 594 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: And uh, but the synthetics they're not all equal either. 595 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of the oils taken in kind 596 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: of analyze with ABC, and I wouldn't tell anything what 597 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: it was, you know, and I'd find out the best oils. 598 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: But there was Synthetics are a good thing. But like 599 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: I said, synthetics all are not all created equals. So 600 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: you really got to be picky. Yeah, you do, especially, 601 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: I think just as much being picky as the brand 602 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: of oil because it's important, but it's also changing it 603 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, which I can't tell you how 604 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: many people today are still telling me, well, we've sent 605 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: out notices for oil changes, and everybody's like, well, the 606 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: car hasn't gone anywhere in two months. You know what 607 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: time counts two And as a matter of fact, the 608 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: vehicles sitting there for the past two months, and you know, 609 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: the short trip to run the warm up, to shut 610 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: it off, to not go anywhere. That's harder on oil 611 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: than it is on the actual driving in some cases. 612 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: So but um, yeah, I get it. I get it. Hey, Bob, 613 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: thank you for thanks for calling in, and we appreciate 614 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: you being part of the car doctor family. You have 615 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: a good rest of the afternoon. You take good care. 616 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Zero the car Doctors back right after this. Welcome back 617 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: on any of the car Doctor You know, I under 618 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: the heading if I hate it when I'm right kind 619 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: of a thing. Um, different experiences in the shop the 620 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: last two weeks as far as parts go. If you 621 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: remember the top of this hour, I talked about the 622 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: psion with the spark plugs and the coils. I never 623 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: had a harder time getting four plugs and four coils 624 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: of the same brand together at the shop in the 625 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: same day, much less the same week as I did 626 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: this week. With this particular car parts are becoming a 627 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: problem and it clearly has to do with the current 628 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: pandemic and COVID nineteen. You know, they're not really talking 629 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: about this, but believe it for me on the inside 630 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: looking out that we're seeing shortages of basics, spark plugs, 631 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: ignition coils, batteries, my battery part. My part's house is 632 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: one of the biggest in the state of New Jersey, 633 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: all right, They've got five main warehouses sprinkled throughout the state. 634 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: They don't have a single Delco battery in stock right now. 635 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: They've sold out of everything. There's a problem. And the 636 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: bigger issue is I looked at my secondary supplier and 637 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: he still has some And when I called up, it 638 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: turns out that the date codes on the batteries are older, 639 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: which means his inventory is older. And let's face it, 640 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: on a battery age age counts, right, you know how 641 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: old is the battery, So you want to be sure 642 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: you're buying something fresh, all right, and that it's not, 643 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, a year old. As I found some of 644 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: my suppliers did have it. Same thing for tires. Tires 645 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: are an issue. We're seeing shortages of tire and you 646 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: know you've got to look to see when you're buying tires, 647 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: look at the date code. I'm not gonna tell you 648 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: how to do it. I'm gonna send you out to 649 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: the internet Google tire date code and they'll show you 650 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: the inscription to read. But you know you don't want 651 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: tires that are I'm seeing tires come in the shop 652 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: that we refuse that are three years old because they're 653 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel. It's becoming 654 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: a real issue. So you want to think about tires. 655 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: Tires are a problem. If you're going to get tires. 656 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good deals out there right now, 657 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: but now is the time to think about tires. As 658 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, somebody handed me this note before 659 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: the show today. Yokohama Yokohama has a summer tire debate 660 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: going on right now through July five. More information at Yokohia, 661 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Yokohama Tire dot com, Yokohama tire dot com. That's it 662 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: for me today. I'm running any of the Car Doctor 663 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: until the next time reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, 664 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you