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Speaker 1: A few poll questions to get the show started today. Taylor,

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Speaker 1: please put it on the pole at Steve got seven

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Speaker 1: ninety one X. When Luca pulled a Hammy, was Nico

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Speaker 1: smiling on the inside? Also, are you a bench below

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Speaker 1: the court guy?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Or no?

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Speaker 5: Hm?

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Speaker 4: I don't like it. It scares me.

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Speaker 1: Also put this on the pole, tailor. Is Lloy Vaught

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Speaker 1: sitting around going, hey.

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Speaker 4: What about us? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: And the other Michigan you double double machine? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yes, what do you mean? What about us?

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Speaker 6: Is nobody mentioning Lloyd Vaught or in that team in particular,

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Speaker 6: like that team has been mentioned, just the Fab.

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Speaker 4: Five getting all the you know praise.

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Speaker 1: They didn't win anything, Lloyd Vaught, Terry Mills, Rameil Robinson,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Rice.

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Speaker 4: They won a national championship, No one talks about it.

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Speaker 5: If it was the first question on that pole.

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Speaker 1: When Luca pulled a Hammy, was Nico smiling on the inside?

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Speaker 5: Does anybody know what Nico's doing anymore?

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Speaker 4: I'm smiling on the inside.

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Speaker 6: I just told you I saw a video of him

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Speaker 6: at an airport and he's got a fly commercial these days,

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Speaker 6: and so that's not the greatest. I'm pretty sure he's

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Speaker 6: just trying to be in hiding as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: Last poll here Justin Jackson going to join us, but

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Speaker 1: Monti Jones going to join us an hour number two.

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Speaker 4: You could spend a day with one group, the Fab five.

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Speaker 1: Or the starting five from last night's National Championship game.

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Speaker 4: Who you got.

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Speaker 5: Fab five currently? I'm sorry for the follow up.

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Speaker 1: So this is the modern Crently this is Fab five?

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Speaker 1: Then this is the modern day Fab five. What happened

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Speaker 1: last night? Those are five guys all came through the

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Speaker 1: transfer portal playing their first season together. It's the modern

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Speaker 1: day equivalent of the Fab five. We're never going to

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Speaker 1: see five freshmen come in at the same time and

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Speaker 1: make a run to the championship game and then lose.

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Speaker 4: We're never going to see that again.

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Speaker 1: But you had five guys come together through the portal

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Speaker 1: from different schools playing in their first season together.

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Speaker 6: And they went on to win a national championship instead

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Speaker 6: of the Fab five since their transfers.

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Speaker 5: Can we call them the trans five? No, I don't

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Speaker 5: think we can do that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, can we I don't think we can.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous Gape eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That

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Speaker 1: is eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox again.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jackson going to join us because Taylor's producing the show.

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Speaker 1: He's producing his show tomorrow. Willie Randolph.

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Speaker 7: Wow, I would love Willie Randolph.

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Speaker 4: I know you did.

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Speaker 7: Anybody got a number for him?

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Speaker 8: I do?

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Speaker 9: Willie Randolph. I graduated with his daughter. He was the

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Speaker 9: commencement speaker at my graduation.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, I wish you hadn't told him.

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Speaker 1: Let me seriously, so, Willie Randolph, I was joking seriously

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Speaker 1: to be on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Is it your thoughts last night? Dan Hurley going for.

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Speaker 1: Three national championships over the last four years.

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Speaker 4: He still has two. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Made it into the final game three times in four years.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain how many people like him. But the

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Speaker 1: alternative is, you know, is a coach that people from

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Speaker 1: Michigan that people find to be very boring.

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Speaker 6: I mean so Yukon has done so much winning overall

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Speaker 6: but also lately under Hurley. Yeah that I forgot that

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Speaker 6: they won back to back championships, like when they were

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Speaker 6: going for three out of four because I said this

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Speaker 6: and thank you guys for not noticing and you know,

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Speaker 6: picking up my mistakes. But I said at some point

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Speaker 6: last team to repeat won't be the next team to repeat. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: completely forgetting that Yukon just repeated a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 6: and so my bad for that retroactively. You know what's

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Speaker 6: crazy is last night felt like a game that Yukon

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Speaker 6: was going to steal, Yes and forever be that championship team, right,

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Speaker 6: the team that had the grit that found away.

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Speaker 5: But Michigan was ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Like when I said this yesterday, I regret sounding ridiculously surprised.

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Speaker 5: When Seth Davis pig Michigan.

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Speaker 6: It all so the level of you know that my

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Speaker 4: To be fair to us.

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Speaker 1: We were fresh off the Arizona Sweet sixteen victory. We

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Speaker 1: thought they were the best team in the country, and

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Speaker 5: We were drunk off of Arizona. Let's be real.

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Speaker 6: And then then you start realizing, oh, no, Michigan has

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Speaker 6: been the best team in this tournament the entire time.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 6: And I remember back in two thousand and was it

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Speaker 6: six or seven, which everyone was the first one of

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Speaker 6: the Gators back to back championships and Jason Williams White

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Speaker 6: Chocolate Jason Williams was on the Miami Heat at the time,

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Speaker 6: and as a former Gator we used to chat about.

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Speaker 5: All the time.

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Speaker 6: And after the second round of that tournament and this

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Speaker 6: is the Gators that weren't supposed to win it that

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Speaker 6: year that played George Washington et cetera second game of

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Speaker 6: that tournament, we both looked at each other and said,

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Speaker 6: they're the best team in the tournament. Yeah, And that's

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Speaker 6: because I was watching intently, right, If I was watching

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Speaker 6: Michigan was so obvious.

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Speaker 5: It was so obvious. They're huge.

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Speaker 6: They can't like, it doesn't matter what your bigs are,

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Speaker 6: then they have enough guard play, enough shooting, and enough

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Speaker 6: talent around them where it's just like it's a better

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Speaker 6: version of last year's Gators.

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Speaker 7: Marrow looked like he was eight foot five out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so big.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you mentioned the elevated courts or whatever, the benches

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Speaker 6: that are a little bit lower.

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Speaker 5: Vanderbilt has that right at their home arena.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't like it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I hate it at Vanderbilt because the benches

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Speaker 6: are on the baseline and it's just like I gotta

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Speaker 6: yell all the way over there to talk to my coach.

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Speaker 6: But that somehow, some way makes the players look like

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Speaker 6: well obviously reasons, I guess now that you think about it,

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Speaker 6: that they're on a stage and then you throw in

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Speaker 6: their height and they look even taller.

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Speaker 5: Somehow.

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Speaker 1: I was terrified for Tracy Wilson. I was anyone else?

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Speaker 1: Put it on the pole tailor where you're terrified.

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Speaker 4: For Tracy will Wolfson.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't she do the thing every year where she takes

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Speaker 6: a picture next to the tallest player that she interviewed,

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Speaker 6: and it's just.

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Speaker 5: Laugh out loud and funny. The discrepancy.

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Speaker 7: So Stu, you know who I feel bad for today.

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Speaker 7: I feel bad for Reid on Yukon. Yeah, because he

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Speaker 7: transferred from Michigan to Yukon and now he's been at

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Speaker 7: Michigan and Yukon now and in his four years, those

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Speaker 7: teams have won three titles. He has zero.

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Speaker 4: Just can't get it right. I mean, he just can't

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Speaker 7: He was great on the boards. I don't know if

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Speaker 7: he was the problem.

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Speaker 6: He was so nice about his situation, and he was

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Speaker 6: like whenever he talks about he's like Noel Will to Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Love those guys.

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Speaker 6: He had a great chance at Yukon, looked amazing, was huge,

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Speaker 6: and the Duke comeback win only to come up short.

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Speaker 1: But that seems impossible that he would be on both

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Speaker 1: those teams. They won three national championships in four years

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Speaker 1: and he hasn't won one.

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Speaker 5: Just flip his time with both teams and he'd have

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Speaker 5: three championships right now.

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Speaker 4: And if I'm reading mikey a correctly, he is the problem.

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Speaker 1: Mikeyye doesn't care how well he played last night, doesn't

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Speaker 1: care how hard he hit the boards last night.

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Speaker 4: He's the problem. If he's on your team, you lose.

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Speaker 10: There you go future, Nick.

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Speaker 4: Jetan whatever.

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Speaker 7: To further your point, Michigan was the best team all tournament.

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Speaker 7: But to a lot of people that watch college basketball,

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Speaker 7: Michigan was the best team all year, and in a

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Speaker 7: sport like March Madness, a sport like college basketball, it

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Speaker 7: does feel kind of rare to get to the end

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Speaker 7: of the season and be like, oh, the unquestioning best

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Speaker 7: a point where it does feel like an extra reason

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Speaker 7: to celebrate this Michigan team.

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Speaker 6: Just dating back to last year, for example, there's no

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Speaker 6: would have said Florida was your national champion and then

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Speaker 6: they just got hot at the right time. This was

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Speaker 6: absolutely one of those years from start to finish, the

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Speaker 6: three losses where almost nothing, you know, just the difference

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Speaker 6: that the point differential in these games in the tournament

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Speaker 6: just goes to show you when they're locked in, doesn't

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Speaker 6: matter the opponent, this team has like a fifteen to

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Speaker 6: twenty point advantage.

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Speaker 7: Stu, I have a ridiculous stat here, Okay, Michigan last

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Speaker 7: night became the first team since two thousand and nine

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Speaker 7: right to beat Yukon in the sweet sixteen or later.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, listen to your point about who wins

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Speaker 1: these tournaments. Dan Hurley said it it's a one game scenario.

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Speaker 1: Once you get to the NCAA tournament, you have to

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Speaker 1: win six one game scenarios. If we were playing Michigan

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Speaker 1: in a best of seven, of course you would take Michigan.

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Speaker 1: But in a one game scenario, anything could happen, and rarely,

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Speaker 1: and Hurley said this, does the best team in college

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Speaker 1: you know, NC State winning it, Villanova beating Georgetown. Georgetown

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Speaker 1: in a one game scenario, Villanova could slow it down,

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Speaker 1: win that game.

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Speaker 4: And that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: And so you rarely get the best team winning the

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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: It's odd And that's why I feel like coaching a

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Speaker 6: little bit more important in college basketball in terms of

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Speaker 6: winning the championship, yes, than it is in NBA basketball,

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Speaker 6: because over a seven game series, you put you know,

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Speaker 6: eight talented NBA, smart NBA players out there, they can

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Speaker 6: figure it out from one game to the next. In

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Speaker 6: a one game setting, your coach has to have you

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Speaker 6: absolutely ready, and Taylor not to go off on a

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Speaker 6: side tangent here. But the more I think about the

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Speaker 6: Michael Malone hire, the more I like it for UNC

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Speaker 6: because he's just established as somebody you have to listen to,

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Speaker 6: and when you do listen to him, he hammers home

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Speaker 1: But I think if you're a coach, you have earned

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Speaker 7: Is he One of the other things I've seen what

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Speaker 5: He's just going to deal with the whole program.

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Speaker 6: As it is with most college coaches. They don't take

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Speaker 5: So you almost have to establish that if you're a

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Speaker 1: The most impressive thing about Michigan, if you asked Dan

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Speaker 6: So is nobody saying what I think I'm about to

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Speaker 5: Hey, Alex Caraban hit a shot man, that.

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Speaker 6: Dude was I think he was zero for five before

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Speaker 7: He is he When when I have Michigan in the

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Speaker 7: When Michigan's up double digits, then they cut it to four,

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Speaker 3: That's God.

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Speaker 6: Even the one where the fast break where they could

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Speaker 4: I don't care, that's the joke.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Jesus, I was just gonna ask you if

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Speaker 4: But I can't believe we're passing that kid today. I

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Speaker 7: Two of them.

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Speaker 1: He's a twoenty seventeen National Champion ACC Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: CONSETTSUS First Team All American, played at Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Taylor loves him. He loves Taylor, and he's doing media

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Speaker 4: work for phil as MBA. He hasn't an NBA champion

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Speaker 1: Stuff for the Field of sixty eight. What are you

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm just filling it whenever they need me.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I see your jersey from college hanging right behind you

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Speaker 3: It's somewhere up there.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you walk in the gym

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Speaker 1: When you say somewhere, you mean in the rafters of

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Speaker 3: So I'm definitely blessed for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Taylor, would you like to tell Justin where your

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Speaker 4: Go ahead?

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Speaker 7: So I have one at Pantana Bob's, and then one

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Speaker 1: Be more specific, Yes, right next to the bathroom pantana.

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Speaker 3: It's a legend, so I can see it. I can

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the National Championship Game, but

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Speaker 4: I know Taylor wants me to ask you about Mike Maloney.

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Speaker 1: Mike Maloney, Michael alone becoming the next head coach at

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Speaker 4: Of the family. What were your thoughts.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I was shocked at first, but then whenever

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Speaker 11: If I'm not mistaken, he did a lot of He

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Speaker 11: I think a lot of people are excited to kind

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Speaker 11: you talk about the standard, the standard's pretty high, right,

448
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Speaker 11: and that standard was set from not just Coach Williams,

449
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Speaker 11: Coach Smith, all the coaches that have come through and

450
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Speaker 11: the players that have come through. And so I think

451
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Speaker 11: the difficult part was people had this image of what,

452
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Speaker 11: you know, that standard of North Carolina basketball is, and

453
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Speaker 11: I think at times didn't take into account the changing

454
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Speaker 11: landscape of college basketball as well, right, And I think

455
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Speaker 11: that's kind of where you saw it. And then obviously

456
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Speaker 11: that loss to VCU was a tough one. And I

457
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Speaker 11: think when that happened, I mean I've said this multiple times.

458
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Speaker 11: If they win, and they even go on to lose

459
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Speaker 11: by thirty to Illinois, I don't think we're having the

460
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Speaker 11: discussion of Mike Malone being the head coach, right, I

461
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Speaker 11: think we're talking about what transfers are we going to

462
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Speaker 11: get in, what recruits are coming in, that whole sort

463
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Speaker 11: of thing. And so I think that's the difficult part

464
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Speaker 11: of it was. I think the VCU game for a

465
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Speaker 11: lot of people, especially in the decision making process, kind

466
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Speaker 11: of saw that as you know, do we make the

467
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Speaker 11: decision to go in a different route or do we

468
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Speaker 11: bring them back?

469
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Speaker 3: And obviously, you know they decided to go in a

470
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Speaker 3: different route.

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Speaker 7: Justin when they're talking about candidates for the North Carolina job,

472
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Speaker 7: one of the things that always comes up is they

473
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Speaker 7: have to understand what it means to be a part

474
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Speaker 7: of the Carolina family, even if they're not a part

475
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Speaker 7: of that Carolina family directly. What does that Carolina family

476
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Speaker 7: look like to you and kind of mean to you?

477
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Speaker 11: I mean, it looks different for me and probably the

478
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Speaker 11: majority of former players, right it looks like going back

479
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Speaker 11: in the summer and playing pick up. It looks like

480
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 11: going back for camp, playing in the camp game versus

481
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Speaker 11: the current players coming back for games throughout the season

482
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Speaker 11: and kind of feeling the love and walking through that

483
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Speaker 11: tunnel and feeling that that, to me is what Carolina

484
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Speaker 11: family is about.

485
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Speaker 3: But it also goes deeper.

486
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Speaker 11: Than that, right, Like I'll never forget my first time

487
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Speaker 11: playing against Marvin Williams in the NBA.

488
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Speaker 3: And I had really met.

489
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Speaker 11: Marvin probably once or twice before playing against him, and

490
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Speaker 11: you know, we met up at half court during warm

491
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Speaker 11: ups and it was as if we had interacted a

492
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Speaker 11: ton before, right, And so it just goes deeper than that,

493
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Speaker 11: And so I think that's something that can translate. Obviously

494
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Speaker 11: he doesn't have a connection other than his daughter playing volleyball,

495
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Speaker 11: but I think it can go it can stay the

496
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Speaker 11: same even with somebody new it the head.

497
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Speaker 6: Justin you had really high praise there for Roy Williams. Obviously,

498
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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody would argue with you. I'm curious

499
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Speaker 6: from what you've learned or what you've figured out or

500
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Speaker 6: knew from Michael Malone, what things that Roy did especially

501
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Speaker 6: well that translated to the college students at the time.

502
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Speaker 6: Can Michael sort of try to replicate or do you

503
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Speaker 6: think he has in his coaching bag if you will, well.

504
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Speaker 11: I mean you talk about I mean, he's a genius

505
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 11: when it comes to x's and o's, right, like you

506
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 11: talk about those Denver Nuggets teams that he coached. Obviously

507
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 11: he got lucky having a guy like Jokic and then

508
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Speaker 11: a guy like Jamal Murray kind of being the two

509
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Speaker 11: guys at the top. But that also goes back to

510
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Speaker 11: coaching as well. He was there from the beginning with

511
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Speaker 11: those guys, right, He put things around around them, a

512
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Speaker 11: system and things like that.

513
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Speaker 5: Finding how good Yolkic is, right, that's a huge part of.

514
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Speaker 3: It, exactly.

515
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Speaker 11: And nowadays if you talk about talent scouting or being

516
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Speaker 11: able to find good talent and the transfer portal and

517
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Speaker 11: things like that, you've got to have an eye for

518
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Speaker 11: that right. You don't have guys that are just staying

519
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Speaker 11: three four years like coach Williams was obviously blessed to

520
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Speaker 11: have and guy stayed because it was coach Williams in

521
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Speaker 11: North Carolina. But you don't have that necessarily now and

522
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Speaker 11: so you got to be able to in a you know,

523
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Speaker 11: a few weeks really nowadays, you got to be able

524
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Speaker 11: to say, Okay, you know what, that fits what I'm

525
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Speaker 11: trying to do. This fits what I'm trying to do.

526
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Speaker 11: And I think Mike Malone did that great with Denver

527
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Speaker 11: and it's funny. You know, people have talked about how

528
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Speaker 11: he's like an old school coach, right, and how he

529
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Speaker 11: holds everybody accountable. That was one of the things that

530
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Speaker 11: coach Williams always did right. It didn't matter if it

531
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Speaker 11: was me the acc player of the Year my junior year,

532
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Speaker 11: or if it was a walk on in practice right

533
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Speaker 11: that didn't do something correct. He was going to hold

534
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Speaker 11: whoever it was accountable because it was a bigger goal.

535
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Speaker 3: I think that's something.

536
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Speaker 11: That obviously, you know, you got to kind of taper

537
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Speaker 11: back a little bit. You're not dealing with grow men,

538
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 11: You're dealing with kids and people trying to figure it out.

539
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Speaker 11: But I think that's something that can translate well to

540
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Speaker 11: to you know, kind of coming into this program of hey,

541
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Speaker 11: we've got a certain standard and a system that we're

542
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Speaker 11: running and there's no letdowns from that, and that kind

543
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Speaker 11: of falls into the Carolina way or the family that

544
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Speaker 11: you want to talk about.

545
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Speaker 9: Justin you mentioned how he's trying to find people that

546
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Speaker 9: fit what he wants to do. How much of it

547
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Speaker 9: is bringing in the right people to do what you

548
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Speaker 9: want to do versus adapting what you do to what

549
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Speaker 9: you have.

550
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Speaker 11: I think it's a good mix, honestly, and that's kind

551
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Speaker 11: of why I think when you look at the people

552
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 11: that he's going to bring it around him, I think

553
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Speaker 11: it's important to have people that have been around the

554
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Speaker 11: college space for a while right have seen the differences

555
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Speaker 11: and the changes and the transitions that we've seen through

556
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Speaker 11: college basketball.

557
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Speaker 3: Well.

558
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Speaker 11: Also, I wouldn't mind seeing an NBA guy come in

559
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Speaker 11: as far as player development or things like that. I

560
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Speaker 11: think that's really key as well. And so I think,

561
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Speaker 11: you know, when you talk about him as a coach,

562
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Speaker 11: it's going to be just as important the staff and

563
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Speaker 11: the people that come in around him. And it also

564
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Speaker 11: goes as far as you know, who are we bringing

565
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Speaker 11: in from the transfer portal, right like now with the

566
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Speaker 11: freshman and transfer portal, what fits what he's looking for,

567
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Speaker 11: but also what maybe we still have there when he

568
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Speaker 11: comes in or things like that. So it's I think

569
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Speaker 11: that's going to be the big thing to see, is

570
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Speaker 11: that transition for him, but also the help that he

571
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Speaker 11: has with him through that transition.

572
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Speaker 7: Justin any Carolina fans that are skeptical about the hire,

573
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Speaker 7: how much of that skeptic do you think comes from

574
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Speaker 7: what they just saw with Bill Belichick in football?

575
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Speaker 4: All of it.

576
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Speaker 11: I was waiting for Bill Belichick question. I mean the

577
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 11: tough part about where college sports is in general, right

578
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 11: is you have to have the money.

579
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Speaker 3: Period like that. That's just the way it is. And

580
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Once again, I'm not in any decision

581
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Speaker 3: making rooms. I'm not any really.

582
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Speaker 11: Any any conversations when it comes to decision making for

583
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Speaker 11: any athletics at North Carolina.

584
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Speaker 3: But if you don't have the money, and you.

585
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Speaker 11: Don't have the money to pay players, then you could

586
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Speaker 11: have a Bill Belichick in the seat and it just

587
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 11: might not translate, right, And so I think that's another

588
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 11: aspect of not only the staff that you know, Mike

589
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 11: Malone brings in, but also making sure that we have

590
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Speaker 11: the money to be able to divvy out to these

591
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Speaker 11: players that maybe they're wanting to go after to now

592
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Speaker 11: bring in the talent. Now, the coaching takes over once

593
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Speaker 11: you have the talent sitting in the locker room. And

594
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Speaker 11: so I think that's a big part. I mean, somebody

595
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Speaker 11: asked me, I think it was this morning. Actually they

596
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 11: asked me about kind of the whole brand conversation, right,

597
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Speaker 11: and when you talk about the brand of these different teams,

598
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Speaker 11: North Carolina, Duke Kansas, everybody's taking a hit, right, The

599
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 11: brands aren't the same anymore, because the number one conversation

600
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Speaker 11: that you're having is the money aspect. How much can

601
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Speaker 11: I get? You know, like where can I sign on

602
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Speaker 11: the dot line for this? And then we'll talk about okay,

603
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 11: you know what. I like that interlocking and see right

604
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 11: like that's that's just the reality of college sports now.

605
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Speaker 11: And so I think if we have that in place

606
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Speaker 11: and we have good people around coach Malone. I think

607
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Speaker 11: his ability to coach and his ability to hold people

608
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Speaker 11: accountable and have a certain standard, I think we could

609
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Speaker 11: I think we could be right back to where we

610
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Speaker 11: need to be.

611
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Speaker 6: It would have thought Bill Belichick would have staying on

612
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Speaker 6: the university.

613
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Speaker 5: Rewind like a year and a half. He'd be like, Wow, Billalich, Yes,

614
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Speaker 5: now it's just like Noll Belichick.

615
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Speaker 1: So justin if I told you you could hand pick

616
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Speaker 1: any coach you wanted to be the next head coach

617
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Speaker 1: at North Carolina, anyone, and it's your decision and yours alone,

618
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: who you're going with, who's doing it better than everyone else?

619
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Speaker 4: Right now?

620
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Speaker 8: Oh?

621
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Speaker 11: Man, See, that's a tough that's a tough question because

622
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Speaker 11: now that I'm in the media space.

623
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Speaker 3: I have to try to be as unbiased as possible.

624
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 5: It depends on it.

625
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: The guy, the guy down.

626
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 11: The road at Duke is doing an unbelievable job, right

627
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Speaker 11: I would never say, hey, we need to go, we

628
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 11: need to go grab him.

629
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Speaker 4: Be careful their soul though.

630
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Speaker 3: It's a dangerous it's a dangerous game.

631
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Speaker 11: Is But but when I like when when the conversations

632
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 11: were happening with coaches, A guy that I loved is TJ.

633
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: Alsoberg at Iowa State, Like, I love what he does there.

634
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 11: Obviously you talk about Dusty Mayheck, he just won I

635
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 11: see the Michigan hat. He just won a national championship, right,

636
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 11: He's a really really good coach. Tommy Lloyd, I love

637
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Speaker 11: Tommy Lloyd. So there was good option and all the

638
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 11: names that were thrown around. And I also see from

639
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 11: their perspective of hey, I'm getting paid, I'm having the

640
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 11: nil come in where I'm at. I can build a

641
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 11: program up exactly how I want it to be, and

642
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 11: I'm not having to come in kind of with the

643
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 11: circumstances that North Carolina has been in. So I can

644
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 11: see it from both sides. But those coaches, I mean,

645
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 11: I don't think you could have went wrong with any

646
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Speaker 11: of them. And I think, you know, the Mike Malone higher,

647
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 11: I don't think it's a panic or a settle by

648
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 11: any means. So I think it's it's exciting to have

649
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Speaker 11: him in.

650
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: But those are some of the coaches I liked.

651
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: Has Michigan entered the all time best team conversation?

652
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Speaker 11: Who team construction? I think it has to be in

653
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 11: the conversation. I will say that, wow, no big. I

654
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 11: mean the tough thing about the game against Yukon, Michigan

655
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 11: really didn't even play well and they still won a

656
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 11: national championship. Right, And so I think that you know,

657
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 11: when you talk about it, For me, the best team

658
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 11: TA ever assembled is and in my mind is that

659
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 11: Kentucky team that we played against, that Platoon team. They

660
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 11: didn't even win a national championship, but that team was

661
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 11: loaded from one to ten. But I mean, you have

662
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 11: to you look at some of these I mean they

663
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 11: went on a streak where they beat teamed by forty,

664
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 11: like five or six games in a row and things

665
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 11: like that, So I mean they got to be I

666
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 11: guess you got to put them in a conversation, but man,

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Speaker 11: they were a gauntlet. I loved Arizona, and what they

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Speaker 11: did to Arizona I think kind of solidified that they

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Speaker 11: were the best team in college basketball at that point.

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Speaker 3: Stu.

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Speaker 7: What you might not be aware of is that me

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Speaker 7: and Justin used to play video games together and I

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Speaker 7: would use Justin as a sounding board for some of

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Speaker 7: my takes. So, Justin, I have an unpopular opinion when

675
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Speaker 7: it comes to March Madness that I want to run

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Speaker 7: by you. One shining moment is the most overrated tradition

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Speaker 7: in all of sports blasphemy.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's probably the most overrated thing for the

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Speaker 11: teams that don't win it. I will say that for

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Speaker 11: the teams, the teams that don't win it, I don't

681
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Speaker 11: want to hear.

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Speaker 3: None of that.

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Speaker 11: The year that we lost in the championship, turn it off, please.

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Speaker 4: There were no shining moments for you, right, I'm with you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, But the team that won it, it is something

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Speaker 11: that you've always seen and you know, you kind of

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Speaker 11: fall into that aspect and it's pretty special once they

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Speaker 11: show you at the end of it. But I mean,

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Speaker 11: it's not a bad It's not a bad take when

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Speaker 11: it comes to the teams that you know, when it

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Speaker 11: comes to Yukon walking off the floor, that's not a

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Speaker 11: terrible take.

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Speaker 5: Can I go back real quick? What was that best

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Speaker 5: team ever that you said? Which Kentucky team?

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Speaker 3: What was that?

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Speaker 11: I think that was my freshman year twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 11: I think they lost to Wisconsin. Yeah, Booker played tea deep,

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Speaker 11: Book played like fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: I mean they had guys everywhere.

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Speaker 11: They had the Harrison Twins, they had Cat, they had

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Speaker 11: Willy kley Stein, they had everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the media game now, like you got

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Speaker 1: you understand what they're doing with one shining moment.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's just to keep you around till midnight. You

705
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Speaker 4: get it, right, I mean it's.

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Speaker 11: You gotta keep you gotta keep people locked in as

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Speaker 11: as best as you can. So I definitely understand from

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Speaker 11: that perspective too.

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Speaker 1: But there are no shotting moments. Only one team as

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Speaker 1: a shining moment, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean even the teams maybe that like had

712
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Speaker 11: crazy buzzer beaters or crazy moments in the tournament that

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Speaker 11: are at home watching it like doesn't have It's not

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Speaker 11: the same. It's not the same feeling as you being

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Speaker 11: up there on the stage watching it.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 3: It's just not you know, it doesn't connect the same.

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Speaker 4: You play tailor and video games? Who wins more you? Taylor?

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Speaker 11: You know what's crazy. We talked about it. I've got

720
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Speaker 11: two kids now and me and Vip have not played.

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Speaker 11: I mean it's been a it's been a minute at

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Speaker 11: this point, Like this was during.

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Speaker 4: My kids will do that so lot.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, my playing career when I would have you know,

725
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Speaker 11: road trips and stuff like that, and I was free,

726
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Speaker 11: but Zip it depended on what game. Majority of the time,

727
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Speaker 11: video games was kind of my my spot.

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Speaker 7: He's being very humble, right, now, I'm certain he is.

729
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 7: He's being very humble right now. Whenever we would play

730
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Speaker 7: a shooter video game, he would have to carry me

731
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Speaker 7: and I was just his backpack.

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Speaker 3: Gladly.

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Speaker 11: He was a great He was a guy you know,

734
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Speaker 11: you need guy got your back.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just have the visuals.

736
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Speaker 11: They might not ever do anything really, but they're at

737
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Speaker 11: least gonna have great call outs and.

738
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have great communication that everywhere.

739
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Speaker 6: Most of the pros have a hand eye coordination that

740
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Speaker 6: the rest of us don't know about.

741
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Speaker 5: So it helps with video games too.

742
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Speaker 4: Does he still wear you at with sports takes or what?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know?

745
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Speaker 11: He there for a while, he would, he would come

746
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Speaker 11: in pretty hot with him.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't.

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Speaker 11: He hasn't come with anything really here lately. I'm sure

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Speaker 11: now that you're saying that, I'm sure I'll start getting

750
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Speaker 11: you know, I'm sorry, I mean, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Always down for him because I love a little back

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Speaker 3: and forth.

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Speaker 1: So all right, justin we appreciate the time. I'd like

754
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: to do this more often if possible. So Taylor is

755
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: going to continue to bother you. Check out his work.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, check out his work field of sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it, man, and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company

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Speaker 2: Live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Got Some Company, God Bless football and with Stu Gotson Hawkman.

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Speaker 1: We only have a couple of minutes here. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: so of course we're going to do a think about

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Speaker 1: It Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 1: I think we're off Thursday, and so that's why we're

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Speaker 1: doing it today.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I mean I am so Taylor wants to

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Speaker 4: do it today. So we need the image of guys.

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Speaker 12: You know that segment talk about It Tuesday on Hawkman

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Speaker 12: Crowder in Soleiro. This is like that, but bigger, big

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Speaker 12: and better, and forty eight hours later, they seems think

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Speaker 12: about it Thursday on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: Welcome in. You think about it Thursday on a Tuesday. Yes,

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Speaker 7: so Stu gotts. The Islanders fired Patrick Waugh yep as

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Speaker 7: their head coach. They replaced him with Peter de Boor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And when you hear the name Debor, you think kayland

787
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Speaker 7: Boor at Alabama yep. So the think about it Thursday

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Speaker 7: is who would do better coaching the other person's sport?

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Speaker 7: Peter DeBoer coaching Alabama football, right, or Kaylan de Boor

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Speaker 7: now coaching the Islanders.

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Speaker 1: I'll put it on the poll first. When you think

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Speaker 1: Peter de Boor, do you, of course think of Kaylan

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Speaker 1: de Boor. No, So you're asking, would Kaylin de Boor

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Speaker 1: be a better hockey coach than Peter Debor would be

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Speaker 1: a college football coach?

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Speaker 7: Yep?

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Speaker 4: Wow, I'm thinking.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get all my Peter de Boor knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Yes, now, let's not really taking that lot and I

800
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Speaker 1: usually save all my thinking for Thursday.

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Speaker 4: This is this is a difficult one. It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: I'm only thinking half as hard on Thursday. Yes, so

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Speaker 5: you know, oh no, we're off. Never mind.

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Speaker 3: Well, I.

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Speaker 7: This feels like a very clear answer here where Kaylin

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Speaker 7: de Borr is struggling with the Alabama expectations. You give

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Speaker 7: him a different sport. I'm worried about him crumbling. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think a hockey guy translates to coaching football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lower bar if he were coaching the Islanders,

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Speaker 1: not nearly as much pressure.

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Speaker 4: He's not. You know, he's not replacing Nick Saban.

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Speaker 7: This is it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, You're not replacing al Arbor who in the eighties

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Speaker 1: won four straight Stanley Cups with the Islanders, went to

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Speaker 1: a fifth, lost to Edmonton, and then Gretzky went on

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Speaker 1: a run. Okay, he's replacing nobody. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: Kaylin de Boor would be a great hockey coach.

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Speaker 9: I say this having lived in the New York market

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Speaker 9: for pretty much my whole life. There is nothing like

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Speaker 9: that Alabama job when it comes to pressure to win.

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Speaker 3: I would if I'm Kaylin Duboor. I'm trying to make

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Speaker 3: this happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, right, As opposed to being the eye on

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Speaker 4: their coach. No one cares. I mean geez, yeah, no

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Speaker 4: we cares, right. I mean, you know whatever, Mike and

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Speaker 4: Garden City Billion Ocean Side, you know, Jimmy and Long Beach.

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Speaker 4: They're the only people that care if the Islanders are good.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 5: So, has Taylor d Boor actually won anything?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: No, I mean Peter de Boor has gotten closed and

832
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Speaker 6: never actually won anything either. But I think Kaylen's been

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Speaker 6: further away from real winning than Peter.

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Speaker 10: Has he lost to the championship to Michigan.

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Speaker 6: Outside of that, because he's got a lot of Coach

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Speaker 6: of the Years in his resume, but not a lot

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Speaker 6: of championships.

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Speaker 4: Has he ever won anything? He was sixteen minutes away

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Speaker 4: from winning the whole damn thing.

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Speaker 6: So the answer is no, because he didn't win that.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company

842
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: So we crowned a national champion last night. Michigan wins

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Speaker 1: the national championship.

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Speaker 5: And actually get a crown, do they?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: But we crowned one, which means I could shift my

848
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Speaker 1: focus over to Augusta. I'm very excited because this gets

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Speaker 1: underway tomorrow. Bomani Jones will join us at about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, iyoha, Sam. We needed that, we needed another one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Is he when you think of

852
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Speaker 1: some of the great storytellers of all time in sports media,

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Speaker 1: who is second place to me?

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Speaker 10: You got that one, well done, well done.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say your Finney story, It's just it

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00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: sticks in my head for life. I would say.

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Speaker 6: The person that is used more like a verb or

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Speaker 6: and adjective is Tom Ernaldi. Yes, good guess, because yeah,

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Speaker 6: I was always wanting to be the next Tom Ronaldi,

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Speaker 6: or if I'm going to Tom Ronaldi.

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Speaker 5: This thing by making people cry, that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: This is the best week on the sports calendar for me.

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Speaker 1: And I don't feel like is he is into it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain Tailor's into it because he's still focused

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Speaker 1: on Carolina and who's going to get the coaching job,

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Speaker 1: even though they gave the coaching job to Mike Maloney already,

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Speaker 1: Mike Malone. He is praying that that gets reversed somehow.

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Speaker 1: It seems like I'm on board with it, are you really?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to book Tyler Hansbrough right now, psychot.

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Speaker 4: How that, by the way, it is college basketball player

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Speaker 4: of all time.

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Speaker 5: Don't correct yourself anymore when you say Maloney, I know.

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Speaker 1: That, right, I know, I know so Tom Ronaldi, mikey

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Speaker 1: I want to play a game, and Dan Byer, if

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00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: you're close to a microphone, please come over.

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Speaker 4: I think you will like this, Okay, mikey A.

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Speaker 1: Tom Ronaldi was on Stegatson Company couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: right before the Masters, and we had a great discussion

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Speaker 1: with him about the course, about the tournament, what that

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00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: place means to so many you know, kinds of people.

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00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: And I am wondering here there are only three options. Tears, goosebumps,

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00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: or I don't give a bleep. Okay, So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to play the sound it's like six minutes long because

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Speaker 1: Tom Ronaldi, like myself, is a great storyteller, and he

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Speaker 1: takes a minute to tell this story, but it is

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Speaker 1: worth it. And so I am asking you, Taylor, tears, goosebumps,

887
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: or I don't give a bleep. I don't want Taylor's answer.

888
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: I want mikey A's prediction.

889
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 9: Taylor, I had a hard time placing him. I'm going

890
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 9: to give him I don't give a bleep.

891
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: Okay? How about is he goosebumps?

892
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 7: Definite goosebumps?

893
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: All right?

894
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: How just because he likes storytelling, right, good storytelling, He's going.

895
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 9: To appreciate that the big j of the journalism of

896
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 9: it all.

897
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: Okay, born out Ricardo, what do you think?

898
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 9: Uh he doesn't mention baseball, I'm gonna say, doesn't.

899
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: How about Iowa Sam?

900
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 9: Iowa Sam is gonna be uh not goosebumps?

901
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: Okay, not listening right, doesn't care? Ep Jason is he here?

902
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 7: He's not here?

903
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so we don't care about him today? And how

904
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: about Dan Bayern? Because I hand Buyer's full on tears weeping, yes,

905
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: fully weeping.

906
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: It's a special place, it's a special week, it's a

907
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: special tournament. And here's just one example of why. This

908
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: is me with Tom Ronaldi a couple of years ago.

909
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 10: But a weird game for ten million dollars.

910
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 6: Okay, Tom, this is such an odd game, but I

911
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 6: have to ask it.

912
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 10: It's you, it's Scott van Pelt, and of course it's

913
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 10: Jim Nance.

914
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

915
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: Ten million dollars goes to the person with the coolest

916
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: story involving Augusta.

917
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 10: Tom Ronaldi is pulling out what story?

918
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 8: So? I had a chance to play Augusta National a

919
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 8: few times, but the last time I played, I was

920
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 8: invited by a member. He had invited me and two others.

921
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 8: We had the date. We were going to come in,

922
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 8: stay at the cabin overnight. We were going to play

923
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 8: the afternoon before, have dinner, get up the next morning,

924
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 8: play again, and leave. The member is just a wonderful,

925
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 8: wonderful guy. And a week before Stude, the member calls

926
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 8: me and says, one of the other members of the

927
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 8: foursome can't make it. You can bring anyone you want.

928
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 5: Wow.

929
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 8: So I call my brother and he could not get

930
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 8: out of a work obligation. My brother works for the

931
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 8: Federal Reserve and he had this he had to go

932
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 8: to Washington and he could not get out of it.

933
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 5: He should.

934
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 8: The person I called Stu is a great friend of mine, Kevin,

935
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 8: who I've known for more than twenty five years at

936
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 8: that point, without getting into all the details, he he'd

937
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 8: suffered a terrible, terrible loss, he'd lost an infant child,

938
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 8: and he loves golf, he loves the Masters. And I

939
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 8: called the member and I said to the member, this

940
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 8: is the person that I'm that I'm I'd like to invite,

941
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 8: but I want you to know why, because he's been

942
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 8: through the most difficult thing any person can go through,

943
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 8: and he's found a way to continue to keep his

944
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 8: family together, to be a great father to his other children,

945
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 8: to be a great husband. He's shown so much heart

946
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 8: through so much pain. And we're playing and there's a

947
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 8: moment to where Kevin is out walking in front of

948
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 8: myself and the member on eleven and he's just sort

949
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 8: of strolling and looking around. He's distanced from the caddy.

950
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 8: He's just walking down eleven fair Way by himself. And

951
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 8: the member who I guarantee has taken dozens and dozens

952
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 8: and dozens of people in to the gates down Magnolia

953
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 8: Lane to stay in a cabin, to share this magical

954
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 8: place and experience. You would think he had never done

955
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 8: it before. And he stopped me and he put his

956
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 8: hand on my shoulder and he gestured toward my friend

957
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 8: out fifty sixty yards in front of us, and he

958
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 8: said quietly, that's augusta God. And I choked up, like

959
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 8: I can't even tell you about what that meant to me.

960
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 8: That the member who's such a wonderful, wonderful guy, had

961
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 8: the generosity of heart and spirit, had the perspectives to

962
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 8: he's been a member there for a long time. Again,

963
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 8: he shared this experience with so many people, but the

964
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 8: fact that he gave me this additional opportunity. This was

965
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 8: the person I chose, and it meant that much to him,

966
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 8: not to me, to him that he would stop me

967
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 8: and say, look at that, look at what he's feeling,

968
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 8: look at how he's appreciating it, whatever he's thinking through

969
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 8: remembering feeling. That's Augusta, that's why you come here, And

970
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 8: to me, to the day I die, I will never

971
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 8: ever forget that moment with that member and my friend

972
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 8: out in.

973
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 10: Front of us and the member.

974
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm certain Tom is saying, hey, just leave him alone,

975
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: let him enjoy the moment, let him take it all in, right,

976
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 4: That's what he was there, just peace.

977
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 8: He just said, I want you to just hang back

978
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 8: for a minute. Just look at him, look at him,

979
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 8: what he's what he's experiencing right now. That's the gift

980
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 8: to this place, right. And you know, did my friend

981
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 8: play particularly well? No? Did it matter to the member zero.

982
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 8: The only thing that mattered to that member was that

983
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 8: this man had gone through terrible loss and this day,

984
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 8: this drive down Magnolia Lane, staying in the cabin, having dinner,

985
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 8: getting up the next morning, all of it. He knew

986
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 8: we are going to give this man a gift of

987
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 8: a day. He deserves it. I don't even know him.

988
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 8: He's a friend of yours, you're a friend of mine,

989
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 8: and this place is in some small way for this

990
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 8: period of time. Dude, going to let him heal, going

991
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 8: to let his heart heal. And I'll tell you my

992
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 8: friend talks to me about that thirty hours, right, multiple

993
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 8: times a year, multuple times a year. Love it, I

994
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 8: have Ay, that's my story about Augusta.

995
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 10: You won the ten million dollars the second you opened

996
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 10: your mouth, right, the second and the second.

997
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: You open your mouth, you won the ten million dollars.

998
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: A gay, all right, Taylor, So let's get your real

999
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: answer here. Tears because I was crying. Wait wait, wait, wait,

1000
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 4: and I was there for it. Is crying.

1001
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 6: Laughing also an option, not because I'm insensitive, but I'll

1002
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 6: explain later.

1003
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, I don't care how you cry. I mean,

1004
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: you can cry because you're laughing at me. You can

1005
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: cry because it was an emotional story told by one

1006
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: of the great storytellers second place to me in the

1007
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: history of sports media.

1008
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 10: Dude could spin a yard.

1009
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: I mean, he's so good it's unbelievable. Oh, my god,

1010
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: is he good?

1011
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: H Taylor tears, goosebumps or I don't give up bleep?

1012
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 7: So I was on the fence until we got this.

1013
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 13: Augusta one more time, ricardoff, that's Augusta.

1014
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah the pause, Yeah, let me hear it one more

1015
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: time so I can.

1016
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 13: That's Agusta.

1017
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

1018
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 7: And I know what you're trying to do, sir. You're

1019
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 7: trying to pigeonhole me to say something bad about Tom

1020
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 7: or Nole. I dare you you want me to say

1021
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 7: that he only has one note and he's gonna tell

1022
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 7: that same exact story. Yeah, forty different ways.

1023
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1024
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 7: I would never I would never even consider it. That

1025
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 7: thought never even crossed my mind.

1026
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: All right, So goosebumps, Yeah, goosebumps, bumps. Hold on a second,

1027
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: let's go to board out, Ricardo. I have a feeling

1028
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: he didn't give a bleep.

1029
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm watching.

1030
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: I got you pegged.

1031
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: Let's go to uh Iowa, Sam, I'm pretty certain he's

1032
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: also watching Paralta.

1033
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Iowa, Sam. Well, I'm looking at my arms.

1034
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 5: I see a few small little I guess they'd be goosebumps.

1035
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: So that's Agusta, baby, goosebumps that's a gust all right.

1036
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: That means you're alive.

1037
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 13: I'm alive. That's for the people in the back.

1038
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna go to Dan. Last year, Israel Gutierrez

1039
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: was laughing. He was snorting during it. He was disrespecting,

1040
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: and he's a storyteller.

1041
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: I mean, all right.

1042
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 6: So my first reaction, literally when I heard Ronaldi's voice,

1043
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 6: immediate goosebumps before the stage. Just like that, they just

1044
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 6: appeared on my arms with a sound that said, here's

1045
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: the goose bumps.

1046
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: That's that's what happens when you got goosebumps.

1047
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: Yet and then they immediately just hid under my skin.

1048
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.

1049
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 6: Once he said that's Augusta, because it wasn't even a

1050
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 6: Ronaldi thing. It was this member. It is a little

1051
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 6: full of himself and the course, okay, like the man

1052
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 6: lost a child.

1053
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he would have been emotional, and.

1054
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 6: Regardless of the setting, this just happens to be a

1055
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 6: very pretty one in which he gets to play golf.

1056
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 4: It's the healing powers of Augusta. Are you listening to Tom?

1057
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: That's like the warners of Lake Minnetonka.

1058
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 4: Augusta.

1059
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 13: That's Augusta thank you.

1060
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 6: And then what brought out the tears was when I

1061
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 6: was crying, laughing at your reactions. Crying, Well you should

1062
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: if you would have just cut out everything else and

1063
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 6: just put Stu Gott's's noises in there.

1064
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: They're the number of things.

1065
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 6: You could have been doing, and it's not always listening

1066
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 6: to Tom Ronaldy talk about golf.

1067
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 4: In Magnolia Lane. So I got ab in. Oh.

1068
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 6: My answer is I felt all the things except for

1069
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 6: the item Giva believe I did not feel that whatsoever.

1070
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: But you felt the full range of emotions there, including laughter.

1071
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 6: Well done, well worth the six minutes I have, go ahead, Taylor.

1072
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 7: Some people might say that the only thing they felt

1073
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 7: was that six and a half minutes probably could have

1074
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 7: been two and a half minutes, but it could have

1075
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 7: been not me, and again not me.

1076
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it. It's a dangerous game. It's Tom Rnaldi, Okay,

1077
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: He's a legend. I had Dan Buyer crying weeping because

1078
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: he loves golf, and I think he's the only person

1079
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: who loves this week the way I love this week.

1080
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 4: Who's associated with this show? Dan, what were your emotions

1081
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: during that.

1082
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 5: I was cutting onions.

1083
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, because it's it's the the child portion of

1084
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 14: it as well, like that that tiede like just that

1085
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 14: part gets me. I feel for anybody that had to

1086
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 14: go through that. But also, if you love this tournament

1087
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 14: as much as Stu and I do, and I think Stu,

1088
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 14: I assume you've been there. We haven't had conversations. I've

1089
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 14: been fortunate enough to be there a few times myself.

1090
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 14: But everyone knows the course. So when you talk about

1091
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 14: walking up eleven Fairway, you know exactly where he is

1092
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 14: in eleven Fairway is the start of Amen Corner. And

1093
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 14: for as much as if you love the Masters, you

1094
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 14: can name one, two, all the way through eighteen, but

1095
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 14: there is something special about getting to Amen Corner. And

1096
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 14: I remember the first time I was ever there. You

1097
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 14: walk in on the property, You're like, oh there's one,

1098
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 14: You're oh, there's nine, green, eighteen, the whole deal. When

1099
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 14: you get to Amen Corner, it is absolutely different. And

1100
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 14: I can't imagine what it's like without a soul around

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00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 14: except you know, you and your playing partners. Yeah, just

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Speaker 14: the magical story and then you add telling the story.

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Speaker 5: My goodness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you go there, it sucks your right down

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Speaker 1: to a man corner. You're forced to just walk down

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Speaker 1: there to me here, it's real.

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Speaker 5: Yes, hey man Thompson corner.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look at you all right, Bomani Jones back to

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Speaker 1: college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Bomani Jones joins us.

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