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Speaker 1: It is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful weather in Chicago was eighty flu In here it

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Speaker 1: was seventy five, So Chicago weather, you know, it's always better,

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Speaker 2: We've had some great weather in America.

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Speaker 1: We have a long summer, which generally means a harsher wind,

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Speaker 1: right thing.

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Speaker 2: Friends out here, you sure you went to the Chargers

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Speaker 2: game yesterday.

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Speaker 3: The yet very friendly fans. Chargers were rolling and your

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Speaker 3: boy Quinton Johnson fumbles in the game, totally flipping.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it was amazing some of these games this weekend.

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Speaker 1: How about I mean, we haven't talked about it. UCLA

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Speaker 1: beating Penn State. That's the biggest win for UCLA. The

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Speaker 1: last time they won a game like that was Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen beating a and m how about like forty four

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Speaker 1: forty one shootout?

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Speaker 2: That was a wild game.

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Speaker 3: Man, James Franklin, is he still employed by Ben State?

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Speaker 1: I know it's going undefended him for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's Colin right, Colin wrong in a Monday,

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Speaker 1: and here we go where Colin was right. I told

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Speaker 1: you the Eagles may not be solvable. Folks, Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting a yard before he's getting hit. I

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Speaker 1: think Nick Sirianni is very coordinator dependent. Aj Brown, mister

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Speaker 1: invisible forty three total yards. Saquon had six carries all game.

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Speaker 1: Not only does coaching matter, I've been preaching this, coordinators matter.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Niners with Robert Sola and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of young guys and Fred Warner. This is not a

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Speaker 1: player's issue in Philly. It's a coordinator issue.

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: Well, the best football coach in the world is Jim Harball.

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Speaker 1: Stick with that, but boy, that didn't look like it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Ten penalties, that's after last week having fourteen against the Giants. Listen,

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Speaker 1: they don't have their offensive coordinators. Justin Herbert is in

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Speaker 1: big trouble. But if Kansas City wins tonight, and I

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Speaker 1: think they will. The Chiefs, the Broncos, and the Chargers

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Speaker 1: will all be knotted up at three to two in

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Speaker 1: the AFC West. I know they're injury plague, but the

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Speaker 1: Chargers look directionless as of now. Where Colin was right,

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Speaker 1: I picked New England to make the playoffs. I said

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Speaker 1: they would be the double the win total team and

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Speaker 1: they're three and two and face the Saints, the Titans,

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Speaker 2: Mike Frable is one of.

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Speaker 1: The smartest coaches in the league, and I think, listen

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Speaker 1: the last four starts. Drake May's got six cuddies in

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Speaker 1: one pick, so, like a lot of young quarterbacks, he's

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Speaker 1: got to clean some stuff up. But this is what

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Speaker 1: I thought they would be the Jets. The Dolphins were

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Speaker 1: circling the drain without a real culture. I knew Vrabel

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Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. Where Colin was wrong, Raiders are one

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Speaker 1: offensive team. And I'm not a huge fan of Geno Smith,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't think they'd be thirtieth in scoring. Gino's

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith's comeback story. It's not going to be Darnold

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Speaker 1: or Baker or Daniel Jones. He's not that good. Second

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, Miami Blew was seventeen. Nothing lead to Carolina.

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Speaker 1: This goes back the hipster head coach, zero toughness, zero culture,

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Speaker 1: they And I said Mike Vrabel his schemes are toughness.

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Speaker 1: They were out gained on the ground by Carolina two

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a little over dramatic. I overreacted when

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Speaker 1: I said the Lions' new coordinators could be has Matt

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Speaker 1: spill Yeah, I was wrong. Jared Goff has he thrown

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Speaker 1: by sixteen points. Johnny Martin is calling a smart game,

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Speaker 1: believe in. Dan Campbell created the culture and this general

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Speaker 1: trade deadline and get a corner. Keep your eyes on

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions getting some secondary help at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: Rams and Lions, keep your eye on that.

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I said the Yankees are a good team, but they're

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Speaker 1: not great because they're so uneven. They have been blown

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Speaker 1: out twice by Toronto. They have an average bullpen, they

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Speaker 1: strike out way too much. They're completely home run dependent,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Judge and John Carlos Stanton are great players,

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Speaker 1: but in the postseason you don't get as many bad pitches.

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Speaker 1: They don't play small ball. The Dodgers have a stack roster,

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Speaker 1: This is a good team, but everybody bangs on Aaron Boone.

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Speaker 1: This is an uneven roster. They've surrendered twenty three runs

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Speaker 1: Yankees are a good team, but they're too uneven to

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Speaker 1: be great. Where Colin was raw, well, my Penn State

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Speaker 1: Texas meet for the National championship prediction, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with not gonna happen. Ucla played a nearly flawless first

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Speaker 1: at very high profile quarterbacks. Arch is really struggling and

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Speaker 1: drew Aller. Not a lot of juice, Nico Iamaliava. Let's

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Speaker 1: give him credit. We were all beating up on that kid.

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Speaker 1: UCLA's coaches, Jerry Neuheisel, leaned into his athletic ability. So

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Speaker 1: the Texas offense and the Penn State defense we thought

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Speaker 4: Heard Hierarchy, I'm no Go.

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Speaker 5: The top ten NFL teams according to College Number.

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Speaker 1: Ten most underrated team in the league. I've been on

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Speaker 1: it for a month as a Colt. Should have beaten.

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Speaker 1: The Rams lead the NFL in point differential, few at sacks,

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Speaker 1: surrendered most efficient scoring offense. I mean, they barely had

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Speaker 1: the ball against the Raiders and they drop a forty burger.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line slowed down the Rams defensive front. They've

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Speaker 1: got a ceiling. It's Daniel Jones. They've got a ceiling.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna end up hosting a playoff game and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get somebody like Kansas City or Denver. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, you don't want to play

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Speaker 1: this Teamnathan Taylor, behind that old line, behind that play calling,

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Speaker 1: behind Warren and Pittman, and this is a good team.

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Speaker 1: This is a good roster Colts at ten, number nine.

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Speaker 2: Here's what worries me about the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They are very Puka Nikua reliant on offense, and the

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Speaker 1: problem is both they're running backs. Blake Krum and Kyron

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Speaker 1: so that's not going away. They have got it develop

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Speaker 1: tight end and Devonte Adams fast. Yes, their offense leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL in yards for play at six point four.

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Speaker 1: They're a very good team. But I gotta watch them

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks. They had they had that Niners

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Speaker 1: game and blew it and the Colts out played in Rams.

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Speaker 1: At nine, number eight, I think Kyle Shanahan is having

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Speaker 1: have Purdy, a you, Kittle, Jennings, Nick Bosa. They're three

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Speaker 1: and zero in the road. Mac Jones looks like a

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Speaker 1: pro bowler. This is great eight coaching. Now they're the

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Speaker 1: only team averaging forty yard forty passes a game. Now,

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Speaker 1: think about that with Mac Jones. There's no substitute teacher here.

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Speaker 1: They're asking Mac to throw it forty times a game.

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey touching it more than I want him to

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Speaker 1: cross your fingers on his health. But coaching matters, and

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Speaker 1: Shanahan could be coach of the year right now. He's

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Speaker 1: coaching his butt off. Number seven. Bills don't look right.

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Speaker 1: They just defensively can't stop the run. I don't worry

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Speaker 1: that force, that jet fuel they've had in recent years.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop the run. And I just when I

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Speaker 1: watch them against New England, I'm like, boy, New England

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Speaker 1: closed the gap kind of quickly, didn't they. I thought

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Speaker 1: them at seven. Number six, don't.

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Speaker 2: Worry about Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Can we stop? With a Jordan Love criticism? Eight touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: one picking, one hundred and thirteen passer rating. They're a

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Speaker 1: young team that can't figure out a way to close

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Speaker 1: out inferior teams. Twice Seattle's the second youngest team. Seattle's

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Speaker 1: thrown games away against the Niners and Buccaneers. Young teams

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Speaker 1: struggle in close games until they figure out how to win.

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Speaker 1: Mike is having a year. The schedule. Get Carolina's coming up,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Arizona. They're gonna go on a heater. They

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Speaker 1: are just fine. Green Bay at six. Number five, listen

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They're good. Better team. Last night seven point

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Speaker 1: six yards of play. A team that had averaged seven

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Speaker 1: point five yards of play had won thirty three straight games.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes threw a pick six because he did not see

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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 2: He didn't see him. Mahomes is great, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Keep your eye when Rashi Rice comes back, Brishard Smith,

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Speaker 1: the young player out of Miami, Worthy Kelsey. This wide

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Speaker 1: receiving corps is going to get really good. Really, they

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Speaker 1: had a bad pick six. This team is good. Situationally,

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Speaker 1: they're outstanding. They're great when they get down to the

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Speaker 1: red zone. I don't buy it. If you're selling stock

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Speaker 1: on Kansas City, I am buying all of it today.

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Speaker 1: Number four Philadelphia, Listen. You can't be twenty nineteen yards

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Speaker 1: per play and be a top two or three team.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about their roster. They've got an offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator issue now. Once they get into the red zone

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Speaker 1: because of the tush push, it's pretty fearsome.

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Speaker 2: And they don't you know. I mean, Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: Most pass attempts by any quarterback without a pick. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of mistakes, but they are struggling

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Speaker 1: to get their best players the ball.

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Speaker 2: That is a coaching issue.

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Speaker 1: We bring in Chris Simms on the show pretty regularly,

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Speaker 1: the Believe Network, is joining us fifteen years. We just

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Speaker 2: You and I do the the same life. I just

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Speaker 1: Parcels and it's just that confrontational stuff. It's funny. It

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Speaker 1: if you try to change Baker, you lose who Baker is.

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Speaker 6: He's just tough as hell, resilient, can really throw the football,

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Speaker 6: going to get with the young quarterback. You don't pull

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Speaker 6: him back too much. You just kind of go all right,

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Speaker 6: settle down a little bit, but you want to keep

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Speaker 6: being aggressive because being aggressive gives you a chance to

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Speaker 6: be a really good quarterback too.

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Speaker 1: So when you were with a Giant, so was Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: and I know he was on the defensive side. I

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Speaker 1: never thought he was a college football guy. I think

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Speaker 1: college football is a little more joyful, the bands, the alumni,

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Speaker 1: the parents.

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Speaker 2: Bill's a pro guy.

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Speaker 6: To me.

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Speaker 2: You know, I never got it.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised it's been this big of a kind

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Speaker 1: of a mess so far.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think we were together thirteen years with the Giants.

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Speaker 6: He came in in seventy nine, I think the same

447
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Speaker 6: year I did. But yeah, I listen I'm very surprised.

448
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Speaker 6: I thought he would go down there and kind of

449
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Speaker 6: show college football there's a little different way to do this. Well,

450
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Speaker 6: he did it a different way, but it's not working.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I, hey, look, you don't spend thirteen

452
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Speaker 6: years with the guy did a lot of great things

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Speaker 6: for me, said things to me, talk to me when

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Speaker 6: I needed it, and all that stuff, and taught me too.

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Speaker 6: But so I feel bad, and I hope somehow, Honestly,

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Speaker 6: I just hope when the year's over, I hope he

457
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Speaker 6: decides to do something else, because man, it's almost impossible

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Speaker 6: to watch the games. It's that bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've been asked this before because on

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Speaker 1: the speakers circuit, the Giants have had a really bad

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Speaker 1: ten year run. New York Sports right now is a

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Speaker 1: bit of a has Met spill.

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Speaker 4: That's bad.

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Speaker 1: And you can always point fingers. I mean, the Yankees

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Speaker 1: have been very patient and they've had some success. If

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Speaker 1: I pointed to you and said, okay, give me a

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Speaker 1: paragraph on what's gone wrong with the Giants, coaches, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: GM's ownership. Because it listen, when I worked at the

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Speaker 1: other place, I always said they were the accounting firm

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Quiet, they didn't make a lot of noise.

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Speaker 1: They were well run. They were never flashy, but you

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Speaker 1: knew the numbers were right. They just they were smart.

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Speaker 1: Something has gone haywire because I always thought the Jets

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Speaker 1: were squarely, but the Giants were big blue. They would

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Speaker 1: figure it out. Phil, It has been a rough, rough stretch.

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Speaker 1: Where do you point the fingers?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, you always start with this player acquisitions.

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Speaker 6: You know, the draft. You hope it goes well. There's

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Speaker 6: so much into it, and you know, I don't know

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Speaker 6: how these guys have great drafts sometimes because you just

482
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Speaker 6: never know about players, even though you do all the research.

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Speaker 6: But the draft hasn't been great. But these last couple

484
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Speaker 6: of years, the guys that they've been drafting, they're playing

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Speaker 6: and actually doing pretty well. So I really don't have

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Speaker 6: an answer for that why it's not going well, But

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Speaker 6: I do look at other teams they're having success, and

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Speaker 6: what they have is just a group of stars that

489
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Speaker 6: are all in and they're connected to the coach and

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Speaker 6: it's hard and tough, and that's who they are that'll

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Speaker 6: never go away from football. And if you want to win,

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Speaker 6: you got to be physical, you got to be tough,

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Speaker 6: and you've got to be smart. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 6: the Giants aren't that, but maybe the personnel has not

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Speaker 6: given them that chance. So I'm going to go to

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Speaker 6: the game tonight and I think they'll play the Philadelphia

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Speaker 6: Eagles close, and I won't walk out of the stadium

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Speaker 6: shocked if they win. But I'll be happy because I'm

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Speaker 6: just gonna be honest. I'm gonna root for the Giants.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's unbelievable. Every year I see the draft

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Speaker 6: all this, I go to training camp and I go,

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Speaker 6: this might be the year. This is a year.

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Speaker 4: And with the lead.

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Speaker 6: Neighbors and of course the quarterback and everything, I was

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Speaker 6: watching the pass rush. I said, man, they got a chance.

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Speaker 6: And they've had two chances and they lost both of

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Speaker 6: those games Dallas and down in New Orleans. That changes

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Speaker 6: a year, Colin. I mean, just think if they beat

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Speaker 6: Dallas in overtime or beat New Orleans all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: we'd be going, hey, look at philm what about the Giants. Man,

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Speaker 6: they might be in the playoffs. That's how close it is.

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Speaker 6: I think in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: This just popped into my head.

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Speaker 1: You're covering some college football now sims complete on the

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Speaker 1: Believe Network.

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Speaker 2: So we'll wrap it up with this. Your son played

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Speaker 2: at Texas.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this before, of the five toughest jobs

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Speaker 1: in all of sports in America, quarterback of the Texas

520
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: Longhorns is near the top of that list. It is

521
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Speaker 1: insane pressure, the donors, the coaching, the culture. It's almost

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Speaker 1: got an NFL feel in terms of it's in a

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Speaker 1: cool city. There's a lot of business, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. It's not your typical rural college where you

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Speaker 1: can you get a friendly media and everybody's Texas football

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Speaker 1: is big. It's bigger than a lot of college NFL programs, right,

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Speaker 1: It's bigger than Jaguars football in Jacksonville. Your son played there.

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Speaker 1: Arch Manning is really struggling. Take me to the pressure

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Speaker 1: your Sun felt and that it's just not another college

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Speaker 1: quarterback job at Texas. It feels almost professional.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I don't know if I could even

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Speaker 6: answer that question about my son. We never talked about

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Speaker 6: how you're feeling and all that, And you know, I

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Speaker 6: always gave words of encouragement, and I not to get

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Speaker 6: off target here, but I always say to like parents

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Speaker 6: of quarterbacks that are coming up through high school that

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Speaker 6: are really good and in the pros, I say to them,

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Speaker 6: stay with them, be in contact of them as much

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Speaker 6: as you can to help them through all the hardships

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Speaker 6: are going to come, because if you don't, it's just

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Speaker 6: not going to work out well. And I'm not sitting

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Speaker 6: here going to confession, but you know, I didn't make

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Speaker 6: that connection with my kids as much as I should have.

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Speaker 6: I should have been on top of it more. And

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Speaker 6: you know always say this too. They're eighteen year olds

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Speaker 6: coming out of high school. What the hell do they know?

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Speaker 6: They don't know much of nothing right, and so I

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Speaker 6: should have been there as a parent to give them

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Speaker 6: more information.

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Speaker 4: But with arch.

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Speaker 6: Manning, I'll say this. I studied him during the off season.

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Speaker 6: I loved it everything about him and what I'm seeing now,

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Speaker 6: I was like, wow, I just I did not see

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Speaker 6: any of this last year. But I would boil down

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Speaker 6: to this, just try to relax, whatever it is. But

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Speaker 6: his throwing is what has caught my attention. It just

557
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Speaker 6: hasn't been on target. He rushes throws, his motion looks

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Speaker 6: like it's changed from what I saw last year, and

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Speaker 6: I think that's part.

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Speaker 4: Of the problem.

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Speaker 6: When you call him. When you throw the ball well

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Speaker 6: and you know where it's going to go, you don't

563
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Speaker 6: become a good decision maker. You become great great. You

564
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Speaker 6: see it, you believe it, you complete it, and let's

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Speaker 6: move on. And right now, I just see doubt sometimes

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Speaker 6: in arch Manning when he's throwing the football.

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Speaker 4: That's he's like, oh, I want to complete it.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you want to complete him too bad?

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Speaker 6: It usually doesn't work. So we'll see, you know, more experience,

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Speaker 6: I will say, he'll kind of fix this and look

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Speaker 6: a lot better as the year goes along.

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Speaker 1: Phil, as always we talk about once every couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I always loved chatting with you. Great wisdom, and you

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Speaker 1: look fantastic. I'm not going to say your age. People

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Speaker 1: can google it, but you look you look really good.

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Speaker 6: Well hell, all right, well my wife never tells me that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, should.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you know, listen, I'm looking for interviews, so bring

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Speaker 6: me on every once in a while. You know, I'd

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Speaker 6: like to beat it up, you know, And all right,

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Speaker 6: this would be the last thing I say real quick.

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Speaker 6: The quarterbacks. I know you like the guy at Oregon

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Speaker 6: and you know what you should. He's really good. Yes,

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Speaker 6: and Oregon, if you want to be a good quarterback,

585
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Speaker 6: go up there and get taught and run that offense.

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Speaker 4: You'll do well.

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Speaker 6: But what's coming into the draft this year, it's probably

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Speaker 6: going to be real.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be a lot of them.

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Speaker 6: But you know what's coming in the following year behind

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Speaker 6: them is another damn group. So this quarterback situation, there's

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Speaker 6: enough quarterbacks to go around for this hole.

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Speaker 4: Lead.

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Speaker 6: The big thing is can we get coaches to create

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Speaker 6: a scheme to lead the team, to let these quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: show who they are? I mean, what happened all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden. Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold are ours when we

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Speaker 6: watch them, and they were thrown to the sidewalk a

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Speaker 6: couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, Phil Simms. We will bring you

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Speaker 1: back on, and I mean it, We're gonna bring you back.

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Speaker 1: I love this, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

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Speaker 4: It'd be great if you bring me back on and

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Speaker 4: then pay me. I don't like that.

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Speaker 6: Even better.

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Speaker 2: We do that.

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Speaker 1: Fox is doing well. The stock prices up. We got

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Speaker 1: plenty of cash here.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, thank you thanks for having me on, Colin.

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Speaker 2: You bet, Phil simms uh it feels great.

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Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 5: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 5: FS one and the iHeartRadio app Let's Blaze It Up,

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Speaker 5: It Up, It's Collins Blazon, Fuck Seahawks, and check yeah.

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Speaker 1: Seattle plus one and a half go money line. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna win this puppy out right. One of five teams

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Speaker 1: to hold a fourth quarter lead in every game. Even

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Speaker 1: the games they lost, they could have won. Number two

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Speaker 1: scoring offense. Since Week two. They've been a great road

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Speaker 1: team with Mike McDonald eight game road winning streak, and

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Speaker 1: donald is on an absolute eater in his last three

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Speaker 1: weeks of passer rating over one thirty. The Jags on

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Speaker 1: short rest off a highly emotional win, probably the biggest

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Speaker 1: Jags win in several years. Offensively, they are terrible on

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Speaker 1: third down. The Seahawks played their worst defensive game of

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Speaker 1: the season. They'll be in a bad mood. Watch Seattle's

628
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Speaker 1: defense come back revert to what we know they are

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Speaker 1: the turnover regression for Jacksonville. They're not going to keep

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Speaker 1: getting three and four turnovers a game. Seattle wins outright

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Speaker 1: in a bad mood cross Country thirty twenty seven. Hawks

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Speaker 1: rebound from that loss last week.

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Speaker 4: Patriots six seat.

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Speaker 1: Take the under Patriots Saints under forty five and a

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Speaker 1: half points. Neither team runs the ball right. Patriots and

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Speaker 1: Saints are scoring under twenty points in half their games

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Speaker 1: this year. New England's again coming off an emotional, dramatic,

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Speaker 1: tough road win. I think they come back down to Earth.

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Speaker 1: I think they win, but it's going to be ugly

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Speaker 1: and low scoring. They're a top ten scoring defense. Christian

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: Gonzalez now he's back. It's hard to throw on them.

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00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: The Saints Spencer Rattler's interesting nine touchdown passes an eleven

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Speaker 1: career starts. These are two teams still finding their way.

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Speaker 1: Can't run the ball. Patriots win, but take the under.

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Speaker 1: Let's say a twenty one to twenty ugly choppie game.

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Speaker 2: Take the under.

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Speaker 4: Chargers at DOLFI can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take Miami plus the four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Listen two at home has been good his last seven

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Speaker 1: home games. He's not the problem. One twelve passer rating.

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Speaker 1: Chargers could be on their third running back and their

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Speaker 1: third left tackle. They are a mess, and what that

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Speaker 1: does they settle for field goals. They are struggling in

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Speaker 1: the red zone, so even if they dominate time of possession,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna dominate in the red zone. Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: three straight games with at least one interception. So I

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Speaker 1: get a team traveling cross country on backups to backups,

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Speaker 1: a Miami coach fighting for his career, and they're getting

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Speaker 1: four and a half at home. I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take the Dolphins. Chargers probably win this game twenty four

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Speaker 1: to twenty three. I'm absolutely taking the points with the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins Titan Raiders again. I'm betting ugly this week. I

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Speaker 1: like the Raiders minus three and a half. They're coming

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Speaker 1: off a humiliating road loss. What the teams do when

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Speaker 1: they're humiliated. The Giants got humiliated last week they beat

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. They have found a rushing game with Ashton genty.

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Speaker 1: Look at the last two weeks for the Raiders one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three yards rushing yards per game. So

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Speaker 1: they're gonna lean on that. And folks, Tennessee's awful. Forget

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Speaker 1: the win last week, They're awful. Held the twenty points

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Speaker 1: are fewer and four to five games allowing six yards

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Speaker 1: of play. So again, I don't love Gino. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball. It's gonna be ugly. The

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Speaker 1: Raiders were humiliated. Maybe it's one of their few wins

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Speaker 1: on the year, but I'm gonna take it. Swallow the points.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six seventeen over. What I think in Tennessee right

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Speaker 1: now is easily the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 4: Bears at Commanders.

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Speaker 1: My favorite bet of the week is the Commander's minus

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Speaker 1: four and a half. They're two and zero at home,

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Speaker 1: both blowout wins last three weeks, averaging twenty seven plus

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Speaker 1: points in three games. Okay, so they're getting points on

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Speaker 1: the board. Jayden Daniels last week looked excellent according to PFF.

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Speaker 1: They also have the best special teams and their defense

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Speaker 1: is getting after it up front.

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Speaker 2: So I think you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna see the Washington of last year. Terry McLaurin could

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Speaker 1: play the Bears. They've lost four straight in prime time.

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Speaker 1: They're not a rise to the moment franchise. They've been

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Speaker 1: a bad road team forever. Their defense is allowing the

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Speaker 1: most yards. Do you know that lost in all this

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams discussion. Their defense is allowing six points seven

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Speaker 1: yards of play. It's atrocious. The Commanders win thirty three

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Speaker 1: twenty six. J Mack doesn't love my picks. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: some ugly I'm taking the points in Miami at home,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Raiders. Raiders had the Bears beat last

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Speaker 1: week if not for that field goal.

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Speaker 2: You don't like my picks. You know what happened.

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Speaker 3: If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas colin

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Speaker 3: and there there's some gross this year, so I respect that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you look at the Seahawks' injury report?

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Speaker 3: Three of the four starters in the secondary maybe down

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Speaker 3: this week, not great at all against Trevor Lawrence who's

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Speaker 3: slinging it.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna take a team take it that is

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Speaker 1: literally going to bipolari ish at home after the most

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Speaker 1: important win for the franchise national TV game in years.

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Speaker 2: They I mean, let's be honest about Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: When's the last time they played back to back great

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Speaker 1: games against good teams.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'm surprised that you're taking close spreads. There's

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Speaker 3: some big ones out there. Rams are big. It looks

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Speaker 3: like Lamar's not going to go oh inter sults are

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Speaker 3: big looks like Kyler's on this show What Did I.

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Speaker 2: Do a week ago?

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Speaker 1: Bills are going to crush the same Packers are going

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Speaker 1: to crush the Cowboys. Chargers are going to crush the

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Speaker 1: Giants last what was last night? Eagle is going to

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Speaker 1: crush I stayed away from all of them, all right,

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Speaker 1: But you know what game I actually like. I could

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Speaker 1: be out of my mind here. They'll tell me Dolphin's Raiders. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that you're out of your mind for

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Speaker 2: S when you when you they're running the ball now