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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Wow, welcome all to the show. You know,

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Speaker 1: we as podcast hosts started this humble little journey so

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Speaker 1: long ago, and now we find ourselves not only in Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: not only at the top of the Empire State Building,

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Speaker 1: but with such big names in the STUDII names in

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Speaker 1: the studio, big names in the studio. A crew of

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Speaker 1: I would stay over twenty five people. There are families

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Speaker 1: that are being fed because of this podcast. There are

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Speaker 1: homes being bought, not us buying them, of course, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, families being neglected because of this podcasts.

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Speaker 1: None of these people have seen their families and weeks

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Speaker 1: because they have been in our basement sort of control room.

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Speaker 1: Ye saying how many important people in food media can

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Speaker 1: we get on the podcast? Peter keeps calling yes, because

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Speaker 1: if everyone's pets are starving, well, they're proticting the chicken

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Speaker 1: pecati for one. And you know, I don't feel guilty,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, no, I don't feel guilty at all.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I'll say this today. And I

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Speaker 1: decided before we went into this recording that I would

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Speaker 1: be I would be chill. I feel like it's so

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Speaker 1: tacky to walk in and be like I cannot believe

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Speaker 1: what we have to die. She as a mother, She

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Speaker 1: as my favorite person on the world. She is the

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Speaker 1: only person I got me last rays the pandemic was

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Speaker 1: so hard, Like when I think about those person I like,

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Speaker 1: but I'll say this. You know, she has been a

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Speaker 1: to the point where it's like, oh, wait, she's real.

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Speaker 1: I know it's sort of crazy. Um, yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: and said what I was like, did we build you?

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Speaker 1: Are you not an ai? You were? You know, I've

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Speaker 1: always thought of you as a mythic space, right right,

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Speaker 1: A mythic space, not even a mythic creature, a mythic space,

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Speaker 1: a sort of weight. Are we in Pandora? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: something to project onto what you need to. Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: is all to say this fucking better go well, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, not to be a complete and utter bitch

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Speaker 1: right off the bat, But I did think about texting you,

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Speaker 1: George and like, just make sure you're normal this episode.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't let the pressure get to you.

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Speaker 1: Like it's tough. It's tough. It's tough because you know,

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Speaker 1: someone who is known for a specific thing aka recipes. Correct,

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Speaker 1: you know they're asked the same questions over and over again. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, the reason they're asked those questions is because

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Speaker 1: there are the questions everyone wants answers to. But I

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Speaker 1: can't be un original. Sort of the defining the defining

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Speaker 1: mottos of my life this is, I've never done anything

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Speaker 1: someone else has done ever, never, not once, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to start today. First gay guy to podcasts exactly.

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Speaker 1: First guy got to make an Alison Roman recipe, and

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Speaker 1: first guy, I gotta call Alison Roman mother. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is something that's actually really interesting, where like, I

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Speaker 1: think we both have the urge when someone is a

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. Well just ignoring her completely. She needs,

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Speaker 1: she needs to see this. I am literally sitting around uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: She can talk. Um. Yeah. Well, one thing that I

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Speaker 1: even keep talking. I don't know. I kind of been

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Speaker 1: loving this little this little key, little cat and mouse,

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Speaker 1: please welcome mother House in rooman. Hello, I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: That was a I liked you better as a mythic space.

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Speaker 1: Actually I might be on YouTube. Yeah you in person? Um,

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Speaker 1: back when I'm mother. Yes, in real life. This is

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Speaker 1: the women of all of the continents. Yeah that's nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would you consider yourself an international woman? Sometimes? Yeah? Saying

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Speaker 1: coming from a barrio's class. I did other things in between,

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Speaker 1: doing yoga every day? Yeah, I for me, it's like

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Speaker 1: name synonymous with alt exactly. Wow. What would your ideal

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Speaker 1: but like, um, they or they'll do like uh, you know,

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00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: pretzel honey mustard pretzel pieces. Okay, even again, I'm not selling.

420
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: Those are good a little so normal, but those are normal,

421
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: You're right, that's I need to think of. I need

422
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: to think of a really good one I'm doing. They're like,

423
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: we don't want you, guys. We don't want to advertise

424
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: with you. Guys like you do not really like people

425
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, oh, I guess I don't like

426
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: I was, I was in and then I was out. Yeah,

427
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go to the nutstr on Gobble

428
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: Hill and call it a day. I'm doing them a

429
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: huge fit, truly, if only. But yeah, but you don't

430
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: remember the name of the storm and I have a

431
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: bad memory. Yeah yeah, wow, Okay, so you're refusing to

432
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: answer what brand you don't want to? Yeah to recap. Yeah,

433
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: it's a long list. No, it's of course, of course.

434
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, do I have one? Yeah, let's see,

435
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: everyone has one, there's a there's a million, I know,

436
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: and there's a there's always I know, but everyone also

437
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: has a price. Yeah. Would you do this for five dollars? No?

438
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: Would you do it for five thousand dollars? Probably? Yeah, maybe,

439
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: or if you can do it in your own way.

440
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: I was asked to do something for a redacted famous

441
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: person's energy drink brand, and I was like, no, no, no,

442
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: like the number was just too low. And then finally

443
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: they're like, will come up. And I was like, do

444
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: I get to like say that I don't like it?

445
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: Or do I get to say do I get to

446
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: like be in on the joke that this like person

447
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: even has one? And and I drank it and I'm like, yeah,

448
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: it's actually pretty good. Am I going to drink this everydy? Absolutely? No,

449
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: I probably die like and they're like, do whatever you want.

450
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well then I can talk about it.

451
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes people just want you to talk about something dot com.

452
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if I did actually well that you're

453
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: talking about it on well, if they I know, well,

454
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: I'll still do it. But I think it went away.

455
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: I think it like didn't pan out, but it was

456
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: all of those things where like would never be on

457
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: a list of dream partnerships and I'm like, oh, that's

458
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: kind of funny, and like, yeah, I completely agree. Well,

459
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: it's also like, if you're going to do an AD,

460
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: it's almost better to do it for a stupid thing

461
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: and make it funny than to be overly earnest and

462
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: be like Nutstock I used to have made me come

463
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: out of the class exactly. Yeah, Nutstock made me gay. Um. Yeah,

464
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: I feel like there's this sort of like I won't

465
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: do that, and I'm like, no, I will actually because

466
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: also I have a business to run here. Absolutely, you

467
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: know I'm not independently wealthy. Yeah, not yet interestingly neither

468
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: because I'm always shopping Rangel exactly. Yeah, you're not indmittently

469
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: wealthy because you keep going to berries four times, I mean,

470
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: you look incredible, don't actually have to get out of here?

471
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: And five for abs and asks. I'm trying to think

472
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: of what a funny brand partnership for trade that would be,

473
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: and I honestly think hear me out, I think this

474
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: would be really funny as an AD to do, would

475
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: be like Rolex l so funny from us. It would

476
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: be funny because it would be like trying to be

477
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: like luxury or we could not sell it, and I

478
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: think it would be such a left turn. But just

479
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, let's just fingers crossed for our roths

480
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: for you. I would honestly love anything that isn't direct

481
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: a consumer because I feel like that sounds Yeah, that's

482
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: like I'm a legacy grant yes person, Yeah, exactly, exactly,

483
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: even like, god, what's a good leg Literally the other

484
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: day when I was at J Crew, is like finally

485
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: a store. They'll make them like they used to. Wow, Wait, Sam,

486
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: is your shirt J Crew? Yes? Oh my god, that

487
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: would be like they would be good for you, but

488
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: then also maybe to earnest. Yeah, but you know, with

489
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: a Chris Black connection, they are really rebranding. I know,

490
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: I know, and yeah that's true. Listen, I'm trying to

491
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: work with them too. Yeah. Weh. I feel like you

492
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: be great. Get me. I think you're in. I am them.

493
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: I am Jay Crew. They called me Jay Crew. Wait,

494
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. So we are newly

495
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: recording video on our podcast and as a as a YouTuber. Yeah,

496
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: oh thank you. I'm flattered your tubers can be mothers.

497
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: It's a YouTuber first and foremost. I sort of think

498
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: of you first and foremost. And now I'm only looking

499
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: at the camera because I've gave me brain worms that

500
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: I'm a movie star. James Charles, No, but I know

501
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: who he is. Um. My question is you know we

502
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 1: are in front of the camera for the first time.

503
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: I would say, this is like our third episode that

504
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: we're doing video. Yeah, and thank you. George's hair is

505
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: a phenomenal him. You know, I'll say this, I I,

506
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: I buzz my hair and I and I I'll say it.

507
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll do a fade. So before we started, according I

508
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: took up my hand and I was like, you're so grave.

509
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I hope my hair looks fine, and Alison,

510
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: with full of contempt, goes, what hair you don't have anything?

511
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: In that moment, I said, thank you, thank you. Someone

512
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: as being truthful in the studio, I was only to

513
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: the hair that you have is great. It's excumely handsome.

514
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't imagine anything being out of place.

515
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: Think it's possible. I would love to see it passed

516
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: up exactly, Like what are we looking at here see

517
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: to me. So here's what I mean. Like, if I

518
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: wear a hat, let's say, and my and my buzz

519
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: cut is a little overgrown, it will be like, um,

520
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: sort of look like a geological map, like it will

521
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: have like up topography. Um. But the good news is

522
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm wearing headphone, so it sort of doesn't matter. It's

523
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: going to create a new top yes, exactly, it's gonna

524
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: create a newtography and it's gonna look bad. Alison, my

525
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: question for you is, as someone who works in visual media,

526
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: how much do you think about like repeating outfits Like

527
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: I don't know these things that we have. That's a

528
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: good question. Yeah, a lot. It actually has had, Like

529
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: in total earnestness has had like a pretty detrimental effect

530
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: on my self image, like I e. How I feel

531
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: like I look physically, my clothes, how they fit what

532
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm wearing. It's a nightmare. It's hell because you also

533
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: have to like you don't just get to like record

534
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: the video and it's out in the world, like you

535
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: have to watch the edits. You have to do the thing.

536
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: You have to engage with yourself as like this avatar

537
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: all the fucking time, and you're like I I repeat

538
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: shirts now that I've worn a year ago. Yeah, but

539
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: I own too many button downs, and now I'm sort

540
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: of like, well, if I only wear button downs, and

541
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: I can just repeat the button down like rather than

542
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: feeling like, oh, you're wearing the George Michael shirt again,

543
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: like you can't wear that more than twice. Yeah, you

544
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: had almost like the red room of clothing. Yeah, that's

545
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: sort of how I think about it. Ye. Have you

546
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: considered painting your kitchen red? It's on the table, Yeah,

547
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: because then I can just rebrand entirely and exactly. Um

548
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: so wait. And then the other thing is we're both

549
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: doing things on camera that inherently make you look It's

550
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: like we're podcasting one of the most embarrassing things you

551
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: could do with your time, and then you're cooking, which

552
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: like inherently like, no matter how incredible you look like,

553
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna make you sweat, it's gonna make you like,

554
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna get like a stain on your clothes.

555
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm more of a stain than a sweat. Okay,

556
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: sometimes I do sweat. I feel like if I was

557
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: a food influencer, which I could be if I wanted

558
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: to Stockholm, call me. I would be I would be

559
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: making all your recipes, but I would be doing it

560
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: with a sort of LGBTQ plus player. People do that?

561
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Do people like I think? I think I'm a narcissist.

562
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, that's my pasta or whatever,

563
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: but like it is. I think a mother knows her child,

564
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think. But I think that that's people

565
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: making content the best way they can, which is being like, oh,

566
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: I saw this recipe, I liked it, I cooked it,

567
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: and now I'm doing cilantro instead of Parson and I'm like, oh,

568
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: still in reference, how would you feel if I did

569
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: Julia and Julia for your recipes? I think that people

570
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: have also done I'm sorry, no, but I think you should. Okay,

571
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: I think that. I think if you did it, it it

572
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: would be the first time you did it. Yeah, you know,

573
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: and that's special. Wow, that is so powerful. No, oh, well,

574
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: something you said earlier I really really resonate with, which

575
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: is my whole personality I feel like is defined by

576
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: my inability to think that anyone has ever done the

577
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: thing before me. For I'm like I did that, or

578
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: like the idea that I can't do something if I

579
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: know someone else has done it, just like and it's like,

580
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: why who cares? I think of how much happier we'd

581
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: be if we didn't care, especially because we're both in

582
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: such crowded market. I mean the market of like recipe

583
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: development and the market of gay podcasts. It's like the

584
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: two things that have the most people in the in

585
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: the world. We have a lot of crossover. People are

586
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: going to love this episode, I mean truly, yeah, I

587
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: mean I feel that way when like someone has like

588
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: like when I've had like TV ideas or something and

589
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: someone's like, oh, yeah, they did that in the nineties

590
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: with this, I'm like, no, they d I'm like that,

591
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: but it's certain because well different, and I'm like, if

592
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: my life would be made easier by making a choice,

593
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: I will actively not make that choice if I know

594
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: somebody else has done it, even like remotely in a

595
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: similar way that like nobody would care. I know, Yeah

596
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: I care. Yeah, And in fact, the secret to being

597
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: successful literally is being an original. Yeah, of course period.

598
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: People do it every day and I'm like, you look happy, Yeah,

599
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm over here being Yeah, it's it's hell, Well, that's

600
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: why I don't look at anything because then it's new

601
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: to me. It's important to at least have deniability. Absolutely,

602
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: you don't read, or write or listen. I live in

603
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: a cave. Oh yeah, I don't know who anyone is.

604
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: And then I go to the wire. Then I go

605
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: back to the cave in between writing a bunch of emails.

606
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: That's why today the emails once special because I thought,

607
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm a cave. Um. Do you ever do you don't

608
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: have to mention names, but like, do you ever sort

609
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: of do like peek into what other people in your

610
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: quote unquote you know in your especially it's about to

611
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: say quote unquote industry, which sounds like I'm being incredibly condescending,

612
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: but that's not what you Wait, Okay, I have a

613
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: question related to that. Is it is there a community

614
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: of food people? Do you like hang out? Do you

615
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: like talk? Come on this one. And I'm not like

616
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: in comedy because we are I mean it is we

617
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: literally know everyone who's ever done comedy. But that's different

618
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: because we are in like so here's the thing we're

619
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, when we came up in comedy, like we're

620
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: doing shows every night where we are in the lineups

621
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: with like seven other people, like a comedy show is

622
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: like a host and then there's like four to seven comedians.

623
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: So you meet people and then you are immediately oh,

624
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: suddenly we're colleagues, we're co workers, and we're you know,

625
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: we work like you know, from day and day out.

626
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: And I I feel like that is and if they're women,

627
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: you support them exactly of course. Um, and that that

628
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: is actually very rare, like there is no equivalent for

629
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: most other things you would never be in, like a

630
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: sort of music festival for recipe developers where you're like

631
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: it it sounds like hell, I would politely decline. Um. Yeah,

632
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: I think that because I've been doing this for so long,

633
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: and like I used to work in restaurants, and then

634
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I worked in magazines and da da da, and then

635
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: I sort of went off on my own. I enjoy

636
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: working alone. I enjoy that, like I get to talk

637
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: with other people and like work with who I choose

638
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: and all step and I think that I, well, I

639
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: know that I feel like there's like a vibe that like, oh,

640
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to sit with us or something, and

641
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, Well, because I've mothered myself totally,

642
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: because I am an independent person that enjoys like the Okay,

643
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm just going to do my own thing. But there

644
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: are there is a community of people, and I don't

645
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: necessarily there are people that I'm very close with, dear

646
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: friends of mine who I would say are in in

647
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: the middle um, but at large they feel the same

648
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: way I do, Like they're not part of Like if

649
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: you catch me on like a Friday night at casino,

650
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: like I'm not with other like food people. I think

651
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: that's healthy. Sure, it's probably better. I don't know. I

652
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: feel like it's also if you have other ambitions where

653
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm not just a comedian, I'm a podcaster exactly,

654
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm a fashion influencer. I love nuts. You

655
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: are dragging me. I know, I'm actually like very impressed,

656
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: but I think that, like I don't know, I feel

657
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: like that's the other thing too, is like just because

658
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: you're in an industry doesn't mean you have to all

659
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: like invite each other to your birthday. Well literally that

660
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: is what it means for us that we're literally don't

661
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: think that. Do you feel pressure to do and why?

662
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to offend people? I don't. Yeah,

663
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Like it's like you're very sweet, and it's like, okay,

664
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: well with like six of their friends are coming, they're

665
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna want to come. And so like I truly in

666
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: the last few years, every time it's my birthday, I

667
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: get paralyzed with like how do I do this? Because

668
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: it's like I wanted to be twenty people. And then

669
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: it's like, but if I invite those five, I have

670
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: to invite that. Yeah, and I think that it was.

671
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, when I worked at restaurants, I only hung

672
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: out with my coworkers. I only hung out with other

673
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: quote chefs and like people in food other than like

674
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: my high school and or college friends. And then when

675
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: I worked in magazines, I hung out largely with the

676
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: people from the magazine. And then when I went freelance,

677
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: all of I didn't have any co workers, so I

678
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: was sort of less beholden to like a community, and

679
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: like it just didn't enforce itself. And so also, I'm

680
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: basically forty now, like I'm not twenty eight, being like

681
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: we all have to hang out every day, Like now

682
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I get to drag me cho chosen family. Well wait, whoa,

683
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: we're twenty five. Yeah, but have fun with that. It's great. Wait,

684
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: I want to do my little game. Okay, Unfortunately it

685
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: is going to be a little clink and I'm gonna

686
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: have to look at my computer. But Allison, I had

687
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: a sort of idea. I was like, I want to

688
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: do a fun game, something low pressure, something that combines

689
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: your work with our podcast. So I think, how about

690
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: how I want you to rate on a Kinsey scale

691
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: a variety of your most impactful recipes and we can

692
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: talk through why, like if if a recipe is bisexual,

693
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: or if recipes gay or straight, we can talk through

694
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: why that might be. Does that sound like a good idea? Sure,

695
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: let's try it. And the Kinsey scale, I'm now trying

696
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: to remind myself zero to zero to six, zero to six,

697
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: zero being straight and six being gay, and we're qualifying

698
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: gay as any denomination of queer. Yeah, I think, yeah,

699
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: I think. I think sale reflect our modern times. She's running, folks,

700
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: Damn you are literally your your Hilary Duff in that

701
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: commercial where she says, don't say don't say gay. Okay,

702
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go short of like in a random order.

703
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's see. So Allison um brown butter, salmon, lemon,

704
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: and Harrissa. It's like a three. I sort of agree.

705
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: How come here's what I think middle of the road.

706
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Middle of the road. But I also think brown butter

707
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and harrisa is queer. But salmon is such a staple.

708
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: It's sort of like weight exactly. It's like weeknight dinner.

709
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Mom's busy, she's making Yeah, busy but healthy, busy but healthy,

710
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: busy but loves flavor. Yeah, spring chicken with crispy leaks.

711
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: I want to say, like a four. Yeah, yeah, I do.

712
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: I don't know why I think that. It is like,

713
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: uh oh, honey, you bake, yeah, and leeks are gay.

714
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: It's kind of cottage core feeling in a way that's

715
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: like pretending. It's like you put on your little polo

716
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, I think so. And we've always

717
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: talked about how like turkey is straight, but then when

718
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: you make a chicken, you're having chosen family over rather

719
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: than chicken moves the needle up the ladder. Yeah. And

720
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: I would go so far as to say, for leaks, okay,

721
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: let me know if you're with this, so anything, would

722
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: you say, would you say leaks are in the general

723
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: onion family even spiritually right? They are? Yes? Okay. I

724
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: don't think that I know about it. Okay, So here's

725
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: what I think. It's like basic onions, like a basic

726
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: yellow onion that's straight. The farther away you get from

727
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: that exactly, scallions, leeks. Ramps are you kidding? But you

728
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: know what ramps are sort of they come full circle

729
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: because their ramp is like an IPA ramp is like

730
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: a smoke shoulder ramp is like you're into that, and

731
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: that makes it a zero exactly. The cycle is so toxic.

732
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's also like ramps, there's something that's

733
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: like uh, corporate branded about like you're like, there's dark

734
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: money there. They became popular because yeah, okay, ramps and

735
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: pickleballerho million percent the ven diagram of people who love

736
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: ramp butter and people who play a pickaball. Okay, okay, Allison, Oh,

737
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: this is actually a recent favorite of mine, spicy chicken pocata.

738
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: M I not to be like three, but I think

739
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: that's a three. I think I think that's a three

740
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: four okay, okay, okay, So it's a bisexual menu so far. Yeah,

741
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean listen sales a scale scales alive. Now I

742
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: have two final questions and these are a little more complicated.

743
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. We're gonna do your two pasta

744
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: salads and your three most famous stews, and I want

745
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: you to sort of rank them, like like with the

746
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: two pass that we have possa salad with Zucchinis's old

747
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: scallion and parmesan, and pasta salad with peas and parmesan. Yeah,

748
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: so of those, which one would you say is the

749
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: gayer one? Um, I would say that peas are gayer.

750
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I agree. Wow, yeah, I love that, like little tiny

751
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: well also it not this isn't a reflection on the

752
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: gay community, but the the pas one it were, requires

753
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: like more knife work but less cooking. And so it's

754
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: like you any you know, it's like if you're like, oh,

755
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: we're going to a BBQ, I need to bring something

756
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: that I know is going to be a hit, but

757
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I want to like get

758
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: all before. It's a really good alternative and great impression

759
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: of a gay guy. By the way, I spent a

760
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of time with that in research for this podcast,

761
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: not because I wanted to, but they can't stand them. Yeah, crazy.

762
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: I had to hang out with him for the research

763
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: and let me tell you like never again. Oh, at

764
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: least it was taxt seductible, just like this. But I

765
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: love that. I actually love that because you know what,

766
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying is a little unexpected

767
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: because to me, the word sizzled is one of the

768
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: gayest possible words you could put in a recipe title.

769
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: And yet peas are gayer. Pease are peas make it gay? Yeah?

770
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: Zucchini makes it straight. Zucchini is straight. Yeah, there's no

771
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: way around. Okay. Final question, your three most famous students,

772
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: or at least to my mind. Yeah, I think there's

773
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: great like the chickpe one, the white bean broccoli rob no,

774
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, white being white being great, like spicy weping,

775
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: and then the Dilly. I think we have our answer

776
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: right there. I think that's a zero, a three, and

777
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: a five. I do think dilly. I mean I have

778
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: to say the word dilly. Yeah, it's like, Okay, not

779
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: only is it gay, it's like three gay guys having

780
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: an explicit three some on camera. That was my inspiration.

781
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: You've heard about the like eagle that they made. No,

782
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to know about this. Should we go

783
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: try to cover well, they shouldn't make an eagle dilly bean,

784
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: su I think they should do it, would sell it,

785
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: sell um George, that was a great game. Thank you.

786
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: That was fun. Yeah, that was fun. It really makes

787
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: me think. Yeah, thank you for humoring me. It was

788
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: like it was like simple enough that No, it was

789
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: so complicated too in a good way. Okay, Eve, No,

790
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: really we got in there. Yeah. I think it showed

791
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: some real truth. Yeah. Yeah, I was gare to be

792
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: so vulnerable. Yeah. By the way, and because I'm business minded,

793
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: I'll ask you one final question. I know your upcoming

794
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: book is about desserts. Yes, so, And of course I

795
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: haven't read it yet because I haven't been sent an

796
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: advanced copy, which is really a shame, and you should

797
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: have gotten one, and trust me, that will not happen again.

798
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I know you're sort of on

799
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: the way out from of gay man, but like, just

800
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: send us one last job tast that turns it all

801
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: around for me. We don't know, you have a chance

802
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: to save me. So I guess my question would be like,

803
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: of the of dessert recipes, let's say famousert recipes or

804
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: even ones in your book, if you would like to

805
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: go that route, like what is the straightest one what

806
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: is the gayest one. I'm going to say that the

807
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: cover dessert recipe for sweet Enough, which is crushed draspberries

808
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: and sour cream, is the gayest. That's extremely wow. So

809
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: gay is It's interesting all norms. It's almost homophobic that

810
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: you be on the cover. No, it's like I welcome you. Um,

811
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: And then I would say, h, I think a straight

812
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: dessert is a cake. Yeah, and I don't know why

813
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: totally implies a child's birthday. I think also salted butter

814
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: chocolate chunk shartbread, which is my first famous recipe period

815
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: that happened about thessert offense, No, I know that really

816
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: s that was like I when that recipe like became

817
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: famous outside of my doing. Really it was my first

818
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: peak into like real hetero women, like hetero white women fooldulture. Yeah,

819
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: like for for a while there, you were just a

820
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: Republican influence from the Sea to Shining Sea. I saw

821
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: it all on the internet. I was like, Wow, this

822
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: is a peak in a lot of Christianity. I'm like, whoa, Yeah,

823
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: that cookie really processes borders. Thank you at Alison Roman

824
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: for supporting Jesus. Yeah, it crosses borders and then builds

825
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: walls to keep you out. Specifically, I'm still allowed, but

826
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: you guys can't. Yeah, you think I feel like maybe

827
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: some of you. I feel like your first viral stew

828
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: was what uh was? What queered your uber? M hmmm why?

829
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: How So it's cottage core, It's cottage. It's cozy. It's

830
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: very like you live in your apartment, but you're pretending

831
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: it's a house. Yeah, you light a candle. Yeah, yeah,

832
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: you buy turm. Work for the first time, you never

833
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: actually thank you. I was like, I was trying to

834
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: find what the thing is. It's turm, that is what

835
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: makes it queer. Yeah, and a chickpe and a chickie. Okay,

836
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: wait question. Do chickpeas have protein? Yeah? Okay, just talking

837
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. So we're very high in protein. That's

838
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: like what everyone says, of course, and then at some

839
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: point in the last couple of years people keep being like, wait, himas,

840
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: doesn't that protein what I've been I to my whole life. Well,

841
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: it's literally just aster favorite shooting home movies. And we

842
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: were talking about or I'd brought up like why do

843
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: people think chickpeas are healthy? Like it's like a weird

844
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: mythology in our in like our culture of diet and

845
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: like being obsessed with healthy food. It's like pile on

846
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: those chickpeas. I'm like, that is like seven thousand calories

847
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: of chickpeas and like program of protein that you're getting,

848
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: like if the math doesn't add up. But I think

849
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: because it feels indulgent, especially when whipped into a smooth,

850
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: creamy hummus, people think that it's like a cheat or something. Yeah.

851
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: So it's basically like any other bean in terms of absolutely, yeah,

852
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: but I think that most people will not is celebrate

853
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: the bean the way they will a chickpee. And I'm

854
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: automation to change that. Interesting, that's huge. What's your favorite bean? Um?

855
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: I love a tiny little white bean, a creamy navy

856
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: bean totally. Um No. No, I love like a large

857
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: hegante beans. I like them really tiny, really large. Wait.

858
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: I just made higante beans. Um. I made like a

859
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: Greek recipe for it, which is sort of like a

860
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: tomato based like tomato exactly. Yeah, and it was delicious. Yeah.

861
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: They're good. They're very They're like large and creamy as advertised,

862
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: and I think that they do feel like substantial I

863
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: don't know, substantial well, I have to say, I've never

864
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: heard of these beans. I'm gonna say Sam is giving

865
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: us nothing over here. I'm sorry you've been replaced a foodie.

866
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: I have to be completely honest. I have to come

867
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: out of the closet. I've never cooked a thing in

868
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: my life. Um, I don't. I don't do it. Um.

869
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: And do you enjoy eating, you know, to an extent?

870
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: I to an extent? Wow, Yeah, he's not a You're

871
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: not a foodie. Although Sam is a boyfriend who's a

872
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: real home cook that like, what do you eat for lunch?

873
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: It's actually the hardest. Don't ask questions you don't want to.

874
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: It's no, lunch is actually the hardest meal, honor. Oh,

875
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, everything because I don't want to cook anything,

876
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: but I don't want to pay thirty dollars to eat

877
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: something out, and so I don't know what to do.

878
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Literally every single day, I'm sort of like, I'll just

879
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: eat a horrible sandwich with um, anything I can find.

880
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: But me and my boyfriend are both at home and

881
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: he hates deli meat um, and so truly we are

882
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: both just like divided. Yeah, and so then truly it

883
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: is a pressure point of like what to get for

884
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: lunch every single day, and we're like, what have you

885
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: heard of humus? Yeah you should. I mean that's kind

886
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: of what I do. Um, Okay, So I'm struggling, but

887
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: it is a goal. Actually this this year, I've been

888
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: like lunch hart, I don't I want you to know

889
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: that even in my position, I struggle. So what do you?

890
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: What do you do? I'm more of like a assemble

891
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: snacky situation where like I have, you know, like cucumbers

892
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: on hand, and I'll like chop them up and eat

893
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: them with salt and butter, and then I'll have like

894
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm like a big leftovers person. Like

895
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: that's when I'll do like the cold chicken and whatever.

896
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm big into soups. Um. I do a lot of

897
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: like tofu soups for lunch with kim Chie or something

898
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: like that, something that's like very fast and sure. Because

899
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm also not trying to beat thirty dollars for a delivery. No, oh,

900
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: I get so mad. It's so mad. I'm also like,

901
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: this money isn't going back into the restaurant. No, there's

902
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: no ethical consumption under door Dash say that, Yeah, um,

903
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: should we get into our to bag. Yeah, I think

904
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: so okay, so full transparency. I texted George's topic to

905
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: try to sort of, you know, not be so alternative

906
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: and sort of be in the lane, but also have

907
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: a yeah, something fun that we can all sort of

908
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: talk about without being all get into this um and

909
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: so I proposed dinner parties as our straight topic, and Alison,

910
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: off the bat, you pushed back and said that's not straight, um,

911
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: which is fair, Like I think there's Well, I didn't

912
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: say that's not straight. I said is that straight? That

913
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: was you know, it was a question. Well, and I

914
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: did actually hear hear an answer, So I'm happy to

915
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: play your little game, but I don't. I would just

916
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: say that like compared to other topics you've covered, I

917
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: would say that that is sort of just a thing

918
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: that exists, honestly, but I don't see sexuality, So that

919
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: is it is true that some of the topics are

920
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: just things that exist, many of them, many of them.

921
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: But I felt like it was straight because it's like

922
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: poking holes in your whole concept for sure. No, we

923
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: love to see the holes Umney, Oh brother, oh honey,

924
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: I love um okay, but I was thinking it was

925
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: straight because it's like my like, it's like parents having

926
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: their friends over, like kids go to basement, Like, can

927
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: you go with the basement? That's nice? What's it like rich? Yeah,

928
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: independently wealthy. We had a basement. It Actually it sort

929
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: of reminds me of the topic of vacation, because vacation, similarly,

930
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: can be either super straight when it's like a family

931
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: at a resort, yes, or extremely gay when it's like

932
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: you knows exactly, thank you. Yeah, sorry, it's original you

933
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: um sure, but a dinner but I see what you're saying.

934
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: It's and and actually now reframing it like that, like

935
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: a parents parents having a dinner party that is one

936
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: of and then it's like the pain of like one

937
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: of the couples having a kid that's your age and

938
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: you having to be like, I'm George and then being

939
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: expected to like hang out with that kid all night. Yeah,

940
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to talk to children. Yeah,

941
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: and even like there's something about like it's such a

942
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: couple based event, yes, the dinner party, yeah, which does

943
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: feel straighter to me, even though of course I understand

944
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: that key people can be in relationships. Heck, I'm in

945
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: one but I'm a shiny example of what a gay

946
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: person can do when they put their mind to anything. No,

947
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: you are right though, that it's like a celebration of

948
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: the nuclear family. Yeah, okay, wow. Sort of built my

949
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: whole career on this concept of having them. But I

950
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: but you have queered at Allison. Without you, it would

951
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: just be straight up I'll take that that. I'm proud.

952
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: I am proud. I feel like, especially growing up, there

953
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: was no pressure to make good food at a dinner party.

954
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: It was like, we're making apasta salad and honey, it

955
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything sizzled on it, so I'll don't even know.

956
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: It's also a space where you can't be honest, which

957
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: you like. If the food is bad or even medium,

958
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: you have to be like this is amazing, No, it's perfect. Yeah, No,

959
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: I know, I yes, I know. And it happens to

960
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: me all the time. And circles back to our first

961
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: part of the convo, which is when I cook for

962
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: other people, especially if it's you know, mixed company, I'm

963
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: not as familiar with them. I feel like people are

964
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: going to go back to wherever they came from and

965
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: say I actually went to a dinner party and Alice

966
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: and Roman was cooking and like that thing was burned

967
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: or it was too salty, or it was blah blah blah.

968
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Like I am so afraid of that happening, and I'm

969
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: sure that it has that it prevents me from wanting

970
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: to continue. Oh, I was just doing this as like

971
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: coming up in my career, and it was like I

972
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: was building it. It was fun and carefree and like

973
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: mistakes were part of the charm. And now I'm like

974
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: up at three thirty in the morning thinking about how

975
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: the thing wasn't right totally. Yeah. It's like someone going

976
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: home and being like that's mother. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's awful,

977
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: awful to be mother. Have you had I mean, I'm

978
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: sure at some point you must have, but like, have

979
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: you had an experience where you truly something went wrong

980
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: and like there was no it was too late and

981
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: you served something you knew was bad. Um. Yeah. That

982
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: it happens in when I'm like grilling or cooking with

983
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: fire yea, which is very niche thing to say. It

984
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: doesn't happen often, but because I'm less familiar with that

985
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: as like a cooking interesting technique, I tend to like

986
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: undercook something or overcook something, or I'm like, you know whatever,

987
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: so I've you know, i'd say I air on the

988
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: side of under than over. Like if I'm doing like

989
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: a big cut of meat, like a big leg of lamb,

990
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, over open fire in the summertime, it doesn't

991
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: come over some time in July, but I'll be like, oh,

992
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: I think it's done, and then I'll start carving it.

993
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, fuck, raw's hell, and so I'll put

994
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: it back on the fire and pretend like it's part

995
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: of the process. Like most of the time, I don't

996
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: think people interpret that as me being inept, but I

997
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: do internalize it as a personal failing. See yeah, yeah,

998
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: that's sort of your version of bombing at the bar

999
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: show yea, or just like meeting somebody and not feeling

1000
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: on where they're like I thought you're a comedian, like

1001
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: I thought you're you're host, like and you're like, well,

1002
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm not right now, you know, and so yeah. And

1003
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 1: also I'm time and drunk and high and I didn't

1004
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: so by the way, I have a drunk problem. So yeah,

1005
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm sucked out of my mind. Oh that's okay, Sorry,

1006
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: I can't dance for you. Anyway, welcome to the red room. Um. Okay, well,

1007
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: so I'm almost like, sorry, what we I have another

1008
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: dinner party thing which I went to one um last weekend. Um. Straight,

1009
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: it was straight. It was very straight, shocking for you.

1010
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: It was a it was a departure and I knew

1011
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: and I it actually um made me think of this

1012
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: topic and sort of made me like like I was

1013
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: overthinking it before I went there, because I was like,

1014
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: what do I wear? And it was like, well, if

1015
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: it were a gay dinner party, I would wear something

1016
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: more playful. But it's a straight on top but it's yeah,

1017
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: no food. Um, but I and so I actually was thinking,

1018
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: like when you go to a dinner party, what would

1019
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: have like type of yourself do you like to project?

1020
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: Because I was like, do I want to be like

1021
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: dressed up? Because they didn't say like it's this kind

1022
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: of dinner party, but it's just like these are friends.

1023
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: And so I was like I could either be the

1024
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: person that like makes it too nice, like dresses a

1025
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: little too nice and is like annoyed that it is

1026
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: not going perfectly, or I could be the person that

1027
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: is like dressed too casually and like you know, wearing

1028
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: a ripped T shirt and everyone being worried is going

1029
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: to leave at any moment totally. And wow, I've so

1030
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: it's sort of edding sign. Yeah, it's sort of you're asking. Actually,

1031
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: this is a really smart way about it is like

1032
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: etiquette of being a guest rather than being a host,

1033
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: because you would expect that we would ask you about hosting. Right, Wow,

1034
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: tables turned, but the tables are turned to our dinner party. Yeah,

1035
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: what's the Yeah. I think that I want to look

1036
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: like as good as i'd want to look at a restaurant. Yeah,

1037
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: and I want to put together, but not annoyingly so,

1038
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: but that's I run. I don't run that risk very often. Um.

1039
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: But I also think I do like like a good

1040
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: move in the summer, like a high low, like a

1041
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: good earring, a lip, a white T shirt, jeans, like

1042
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: a cute shoe. Yeah, but the shoe, I've noticed that

1043
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, you can't rely on your outfit for the shoe.

1044
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: Very things to worry about. It is, um but because

1045
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people make you take your shoes off

1046
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: that don't have the outfit ruin. That is really one

1047
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: of the saddest things in our in terms of things

1048
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: that happened at homes. Yeah, like if I'm doing white

1049
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: T shirt high way simply jeans because I'm wearing like

1050
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: a sick red heel and the heel comes off and

1051
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: then I'm like an asshole. Yeah, so like we got

1052
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: to plan ahead for that. Yeah, I mean this particular

1053
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: dinner party. The weirdest thing is I was like, it's

1054
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: a shoes off household, like be ready for you already

1055
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: knew that. I knew that, and then I got there

1056
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: and the way you can keep your shoes on, and

1057
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I wore stupid shoes because I

1058
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: knew I would take them off as soon as I

1059
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: got here. Also, the socks you're wearing, you don't want

1060
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: to be caught in bad socks or is a danger? Yeah?

1061
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: Actually I find it to be kind of a power

1062
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: move to wear bad SOX. Really. I I have a

1063
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: friend who brings over his own house shoes to my

1064
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: house because he knows that I asked him to take

1065
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: the Actually have two friends that do that. That's one

1066
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: of them's gay, one of them's not. Wow, that is

1067
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: so beautiful, pariship. I think running, I think that's amazing.

1068
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: That's that is truly the fantasy to have little house slippers. Oh.

1069
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: I think that if I'm ever very rich, I will

1070
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: have a full like oh catalog of like size, range

1071
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: of size like lll bean Like, oh you didn't have

1072
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: that growing up? Yeah yeah, yeah. The whole basement was

1073
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: dedicated to just shooes for guests. Yeah, except when the

1074
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: children had to go down. But yeah, I feel like

1075
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: that's such a classy. Yeah. Okay, I'm not there, but no,

1076
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: I'll let you know. I have like, um, three pairs

1077
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: of crocs by the we have a backyard, and I

1078
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: have three pairs of crocs by the backyards. Wealthy. I see,

1079
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: ye couldn't like, couldn't shake that old Well. Mommy and

1080
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: Daddy knew I had to be set up right. They said,

1081
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: you're going to Bushwick, babe, and you're getting a backyard. Um,

1082
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: and but I do have three pairs of crocs that

1083
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: it's like if you're visiting, like so you're not tracking

1084
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: in and out mud. Yeah, amazing purpose of the crock Okay, wow,

1085
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 1: you're like, no, but I have them because but they're

1086
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: not for guests, No they are. They are. How many

1087
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: do you have three? So he's only having one person

1088
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: over at a time. It because you and your boyfriend,

1089
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: well and I'm having threesomes. The really crack that codeme

1090
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: unless we've on it. Wow. Um, we've really created an

1091
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: unsafe space today in a way that I'm pretty impressed.

1092
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm on cloud nine. I'm like, you know, with someone

1093
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: that you know, we don't personally know. Um, I disagree, mad, Yeah,

1094
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: we did hug me or weeks ago. That's true. Well, um,

1095
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: you know with some people that we don't know as well,

1096
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: with some people that we consider mother rather than you know, sister. Um,

1097
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: it is sometimes times you know, you're sort of like

1098
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: trying to be polite and you're sort of you know,

1099
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: how do we get our natural rhythm in here? And yeah,

1100
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: oh baby, I did not have to worry about that

1101
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: one bit. And back I was like, I'm scared. Let

1102
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I mean, we we are hesitant

1103
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: often to do non comedian guests and it's like, you know,

1104
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: we can count you. It's like Gia Talentino, JEREMYO, Harris

1105
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: Andrew long Choo, like who you know, it's like maybe

1106
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Mame dropping. Sorry, we'll we'll believe them, We'll believe you.

1107
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: Those are all amazing people. But very funny people, very funny,

1108
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: very funny people, minds of a generation and funny. Sure,

1109
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: but it's it's tough because I've I've thought of other

1110
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: people that I would love to, like, have a conversation

1111
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: with that would flop on the podcast quite frankly. Oh yeah,

1112
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean we would flop talking to them. I mean mutual. Yeah,

1113
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: they're not always they're nothing. It's not always a pit. Yeah.

1114
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: I was like you at something, someone was like, who's

1115
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: your dream guests? And I just instinctively said Sarah Jessica Parker.

1116
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: And then I was like, no, she would not be good.

1117
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: You want to carry you know, although Carrie famously is

1118
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: a bad podcaster on and just like that, well she improved,

1119
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: she improves, should be honest and vulnerable. Yeah, what a

1120
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: beautiful arc. I hope that's in the cards for us. Yeah,

1121
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: I would love that. Not today, we need a change.

1122
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: So back to dinner parties. Um wait, what are I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what are the worst m what are the biggest flops

1124
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: you've seen happen at dinner parties? I mean underseasoned food.

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01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: It's an epidemic. And I would say dinner party or not,

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01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: It's Yeah, that's the biggest issue for me, or or

1127
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: not having music on at all. Oh yeah, which like

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01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: what happens. It happens all the time. That's actually one

1129
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: of the weirder things. Well, honestly not having music and

1130
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: overhead lighting, I would say, are bad lighting music? Running

1131
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: out of wine? Oh my god, running out of wine?

1132
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Excuse? I actually had I intended dinner.

1133
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: I attended a dinner party once where a host purposefully

1134
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: stopped serving alcohol to signal it's time to leave. No,

1135
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 1: they read that in a book somewhere. It's like, looks

1136
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: like you keep putting the fresh bottle of wine up.

1137
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: People are laughing, we're laughing, and then no more wine,

1138
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: full wine, and you can see the bottles. We didn't

1139
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: run out, they stopped putting it up. I have to say,

1140
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: oh my god. The idea that you would ever like

1141
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: choose to prematurely end your own dinner party is so

1142
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: oh is it time to leave? I'm so sorry? And

1143
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to be racist. That is wasp oh

1144
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: thousand per sect and that and I's like, yeah, literally

1145
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: being blue lives matter if you choose to end well,

1146
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like in the in the cannon

1147
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: of things that we take as truths in our young,

1148
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 1: sweet lives. It's like, you go to dinner, you split

1149
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: the fucking check, you host people, you let them leave.

1150
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: When they're leaving, you don't get to decide that. There

1151
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: are at least four people listening right now that have

1152
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: been like you have told me to leave your home

1153
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: multiple times. But I'm like, babe, it's like three in

1154
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: the morning, and you have to go. And of course,

1155
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: if it's like if you're having real family, you know,

1156
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: like your friends who are family over, you can be

1157
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: a little like chosen family, chosen thank you? Um okay,

1158
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: so yes, late in God, I have an etiquette question. Yes,

1159
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you all think between like, so between

1160
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: arrival like drinks and dinner being served, what is the normal?

1161
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: What is like your preferred time from drinks to dinner.

1162
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: I would say I like a nice forty five to

1163
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: sixty minutes, and that allows for people to trickle in

1164
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: if they're not on time, which not everybody will be.

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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: It also allows for a snack hour. Although I've you know,

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: in my old age, I've sort of cooled it on

1167
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: the snacks. I just people get too full. Yeah, and

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01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: it's like a whole it's like more complicated than any

1169
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: like dinner. Of the dinner part, it's like there have

1170
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: to be at least six people coming over for me

1171
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: to make a snack. Well, I sort of thought, I

1172
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,959
Speaker 1: can't remember where you did this, but I think maybe

1173
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving video. You had like little like a toothpick

1174
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: with like an anchovy and a little pepper and a

1175
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: little pepper, And I'm like, oh kay, little pepper. Talk

1176
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: about a gay snap by the way, But I'm like

1177
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: that's a solution, like rather than having a whole thing,

1178
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: appetizers have literal tint. People are out here with like

1179
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: a half a wheel of cheese and like, that's fine

1180
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: if then that is your dinner. Yeah, but it becomes

1181
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: so fun to buy that, like your love a cheese plate.

1182
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a little bit get Oh we wait, you know,

1183
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: but I think that to do that before you're gonna

1184
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: serve like chicken, a botalla and a salad, it's like

1185
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: it's too much food. Yeah, I've I'm really scaling back.

1186
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: I think that I've been over serving people for decades. Wow. First, yeah,

1187
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: making amends the bold apologies, Yeah exactly, Okay, Wow, interesting oh,

1188
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. My Italian friend told

1189
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: me that you're supposed to eat pasta first and then salad.

1190
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: That's how they do in Italy. They do, I mean

1191
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: they mostly serve salad post anything. In Rupe. Salad is

1192
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: the end nothing. It's a very American thing to do

1193
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: at the beginning. Yeah, totally. Yeah, it's it's interesting because

1194
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 1: my family's from Greece and that, and for whatever reason,

1195
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: Greece is more America. Like Greece does salad in the beginning. Well,

1196
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: it's very salad heavy culture. They do like they make

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01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: meals of salads in a way that I feel like

1198
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: they don't in Italy or parents. Well, Greek culture is

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01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: like it's salad and then it's like the most overcooked

1200
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: piece of meat you've ever seen in your entire life.

1201
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: Very chard is but grilled over a vine. But it's

1202
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: truly like one of those. It's like when I go back,

1203
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys need God. You have a family

1204
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: that lived there. I grow I went to high school

1205
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: there in Greece. I did not know that in Athens. Wow,

1206
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: I loved that. We like moved back and forth. So

1207
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: that's why I don't have an action or anything. But

1208
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: but I you're a fraud. Yeah he's been lying. That's

1209
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, but it's but that is the one

1210
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: because I love Greek food, but they can't. I mean

1211
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: when I tell you the meat is over, it is

1212
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: literally like ash. Yeah, it's it's a charred culture with

1213
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: regards to meat. But I love Greek food. I I

1214
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: mean dill one more dil, I mean zucchini that we

1215
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: were talking about before. I feel like there are there

1216
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: are some Greek overlaps with with your cooking. It's it's

1217
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: very much in my or we've been saying that a Yeah, um,

1218
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: you were gonna ask me a question though, was I

1219
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: you said something about your Italian friend. Oh? Yeah, I

1220
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: think I would tell your Italian friend that in America

1221
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: he needs to respect American culture. I'm I'm well, I

1222
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: think an easy way to solve that as you just

1223
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: serve everything. At the same time, I'm not coursing it out.

1224
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: This isn't a restaurante. I'm you're coming to my house. Yeah,

1225
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that, because I actually do

1226
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: get when people course it out at a dinner party.

1227
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: You're like, relax, it's no way you could never in

1228
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: a century catch me doing that. Ever, how do you

1229
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: feel though about making a soup, because when you do

1230
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: a no soup for dinner parties at all, I'm flowering.

1231
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm all right, bring back the going off, the going

1232
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: off alarming. The only thing were the only thing worse

1233
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: some soup at a dinner party is if it's a

1234
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: fucking a spot show or cold chilled soup. Not acceptable.

1235
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: I completely with you, and this is coming from us.

1236
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: Here's someone who likes super I love I love SUP,

1237
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: I love broth, I eat it weekly, I celebrate it. Yeah,

1238
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: so you don't. You wouldn't even do as an amuse

1239
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: bush like a tiny little shot glass of Actually, as

1240
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: soon as it's in a shot class, I'm like, okay, no, okay,

1241
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: that would be a gay dinner party. No signor frogs.

1242
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. This is a big rule. Okay, okay, this

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Speaker 1: is so important to know, no soups that dinner. Somebody

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01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: will find a way to make that like that take

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: ye like too harsh? Yody will be like well in

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: this place, people, I'm like, we're gonna do that. Yeah yeah,

1247
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: listenership game, We're gonna take everything you said out of context.

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna just we're gonna re arrange podcast. I hate gays. Yeah, okay,

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01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: any other actually I love this. Any other red flags

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: are like definitely don't do food wise. No, no soup,

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01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: noa spatcho. Um gosh, I'm trying to think. How do

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: you feel about having a sort of thing where people

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: have to make something themselves, like a taco bar. I

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01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: like that, you like, I did a hard shell taking

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: it the other night. It was great. I think you

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: just have to have a game plan ahead of time,

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01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 1: so people aren't like, um, can you pass me? No? Yeah,

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: the other one can you? Can you? Sorry? I'm just like, no,

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01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: we don't like have like a separate station where people

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: are then able to like freely assemble at will. I

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: love that style for dinner parties because it takes a

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: lot of the pressure off the host. Okay, and I

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: like eating that way too, so I like it as

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Speaker 1: a guest as well. Yeah, so maybe you'd like, Um,

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01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: the Stradio Lab created meal sleeves. Oh right, so this

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: is actually Sam's doing. I'm not part of this business.

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: I am. And our friend Julio, who by the way,

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01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: also doesn't cook at all, like to to the point

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: where you're like, what do you eat? One time I

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: asked who Wholio was like, yeah, I'll have like tempe

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: Over the sing for dinner, tempe Over the Sing that

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: a performance piece, like what do we Yeah, and honey,

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01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: their reviews are not good. Yeah, we we went up

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: our island and we're tal. I cannot believe we are.

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: I just I have to explain. So we um were

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01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: a task with making dinner as sort of a joke.

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up the photo of it. Okay and wait, sorry,

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: back up, somebody tasked you with making dinner as a joke,

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01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 1: like as a bit. Yeah. It was like a house

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01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: like fifty percent comedians, and it was like, oh, funny group,

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: funny girl. It would be funny if like Sam and

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01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: Julio made dinner because neither of them know how to

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01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: cook and no one's allowed to help them, and they

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: just figured out, well, that seems like a recipe for

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: food waste and that's not funny. And so we went

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: to the grocery store and I was like, okay, well,

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: like we can figure out like a taco situation like

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01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: that will be easy um and Julio was like no, no, no,

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to, like I don't want to

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01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: do something that's like done, Like what if we just

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01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: buy stuff your department? I tell me about it. You

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01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: think I'm old? Yeah, truly. And it was like, okay,

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: let's just he's just started picking up random things like

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: pre made meatballs, like like beans, um, just sort of

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01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: like whatever spoke to him. This is someone who has

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: never cooked anything. I mean, so they are approaching it

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01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,879
Speaker 1: like an artist. Yeah. And and and then we decided

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,839
Speaker 1: to make sort of a millennial startup um called Brooklyn

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: Sleeve Co. Where we had different different wraps, different feelings,

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01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: diet sleep I'm sure. I'm sure I'm showing Alison the photo.

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: So there's normal diet and American as you could get Italian,

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01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: you could get all American. To the viewers at home.

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: The sleeve is the vessel. Yes if we have we

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: have a corn tortilla, which is normal, we have all American,

1305
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: which isn't appears to be a flower tortilla. And then

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: the diet sleeve, which are two little perfect petals of

1307
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: icebook lettuce um, but what look to be unpitted Kalamatta.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: Put something like that in your next book. Because we

1309
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: have some really exciting investors lined up. Um, do you

1310
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: want to like maybe promoted on your UM channel. You

1311
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: did ask me earlier if there were any partnerships I

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: would not consider. And now Sleeves is by Brooklyn Sleeve

1313
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: coo is at the top of your lips. Yeah, oh wow,

1314
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I got to tell you about Sleeves.

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: Remember there was that restaurant in the lower side called

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: wolf Nights that was it was like on Orchard and something,

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01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: what was the sort of perhaps, but it was called No.

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01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: As we've mentioned, we don't do any rains are very

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: different from a rap I thought you were a food

1320
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: person surminding me of wolf Nights and a third name

1321
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: for a Sleeper based restaurant. I don't it might still

1322
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: be there if it support all small businesses on this podcast. Um,

1323
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: should we do our finals? Oh my god, I think

1324
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: we have to. I know. I'm literally like, why can't

1325
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: we keep going for it? Because people have kids staring? Yeah? Okay, Um,

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01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: do you want to introduce this? Yes? Our final segment

1327
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: is called shout Outs, and in it we pay amach

1328
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: to the grands trade tradition of the radio shout out,

1329
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: which actually in the studio feels way more real. Um,

1330
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: all feel like a bit at all. He kind of

1331
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 1: loses its bitiness. Um, but we shout out to anything

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: that we enjoy, sort of in the style of the

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: radio shout out in the style of its two thousand

1334
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: and one year at tr il shutting out to your

1335
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: squad back home, but about something that you're liking. Yeah,

1336
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: And I actually came prepared with one that's so embarrassing

1337
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: based on our conversation, and I thought about changing it,

1338
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: but then I'm like, you know what, live out loud,

1339
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: be yourself, and I can go first, go for it. Okay,

1340
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: this is completely unrelated to everything and embarrassing. What's up

1341
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,480
Speaker 1: breaks losers and perverts? I want to give a huge

1342
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: and hearty shout out, a vulnerable and honest shout out

1343
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: to a meme account that I follow. That's right, I

1344
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: follow a meme account called Northwest Underscore mcmuns Score Wholesale,

1345
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: and I am telling you I feel so seen by

1346
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: this meme account. I am reading it and I'm laugh

1347
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: laugh laughing. I'm hitting the three dots and saying share

1348
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: and saying and I text mesha, this is from that

1349
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: meme account I always talk about and He's like, ha,

1350
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if I get it, and I'm like,

1351
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: trust me, Like it's good. You're just not on the

1352
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: cutting edge and memes, you know, you can fight them

1353
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: all you want, but eventually they're gonna there's gonna be

1354
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: a meme that sort of understands you, and it's better

1355
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: to just get on board quick. If you are edgy,

1356
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: if you are all, this is the meme account for you.

1357
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: You are not edgy and alt anymore because now there's

1358
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: a meme account for you. I love you that one

1359
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:18,879
Speaker 1: meme account. X XL. Wow, I do like that meme account.

1360
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: It's very funny that I've never even heard of it.

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: And memes are here to stay. I agree, you know,

1362
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: we can't check them. It's sort of crazy that they

1363
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: are quite literally putting our like putting comedians out of business.

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, are they the pre meme you scarcity mentality

1365
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: and we don't support that? Yeah, thank you? True, it's true. Okay, um,

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: do you come prepared because I didn't No, no, I

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01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: didn't no no. It's it's sort of part of the

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: segment that we like think of them. One didn't get

1369
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: the memo. If it's part of the segment to not

1370
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: be prepared because someone was reading from their phone all

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01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: the speech. I was reading the name of the meme account.

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: That's all it was. I didn't read anything else. Um,

1373
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm like looking here for inspiration. And the last thing

1374
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: I googled was Alison Roman pasta salad for this game.

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm not shouting that out. I wrote it.

1376
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: There's a new one coming this summer. Okay, all right,

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: all right, what's up LGBTQ plus family. I want to

1378
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to this woman, Agnes Callard,

1379
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: who I read about in that New Yorker profile. She

1380
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: is a philosophy professor who lives with her ex husband

1381
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: and her husband. She started sucking her grad student and

1382
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: then decided that it was a sign of philosophical enlightenment,

1383
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: and honey, she's getting away with that. She's in the

1384
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: New Yorker. I love that she is an full on

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: adult woman with three grown kids, and she is still

1386
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: living that Hannah Horvath lifestyle. She is still doing self discovery,

1387
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: she is still instilling everything with meaning even when she's

1388
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: quite literally just sucking her grad student. I think we

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: could all use a little bit more that in our lives.

1390
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: I can't forget to self mythologize every single second of

1391
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: every day, and then one day I'll be profiled with

1392
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: the New Yorker. That was inspiring. Did you read that? No?

1393
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: But I want to because that's also my final form,

1394
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: not the fucking the gradation. But I do feel like

1395
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: women like past a certain age, are allowed to like

1396
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: really break through the red rooms and and like fully

1397
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 1: realize the person you were always meant to be, because

1398
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: once you're no longer like fuckable or a threat, then

1399
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: you can be yourself and people that get's funny and charming.

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that is so true. Yeah, wow, Yeah, I guess

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01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: you know why. That's sort of why I not to

1402
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: say the obvious, but that's sort of why people in

1403
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: our community are drawn to older character actresses. It's like,

1404
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, smart, yeah, Judith light nicon icon. Sometimes George

1405
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: is making up women's name Sam. Sam is not an

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: actress gay, you know, and it shows not a home cook,

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: not an actress, play gay? Are you? Yeah, that's a

1408
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: great question. I'll tell you what kind of gay Sam is.

1409
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: Sam is like the kind of gay that loves like

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: a gay vacation destination, Like he loves Fire Island. He

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01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: loves like going to Like, yeah, what's the other what

1412
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: are other gay vacation destinations that take Fire Islands? The

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01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: other day I was literally gay in California go and

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: then in northern California Grenville. Have you been there? Oh? Yeah,

1415
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: I used to live in San Francisco. Oh me too.

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: But Grenville, I mean, now it's become truly like Brooklyn.

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: But I feel like that was Yeah, they have like

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01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: glamping and like I've been camp I've been actual camping there,

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01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: but this was no, they truly it's like all from

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01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: the table. I mean, you know branded, yeah, have you

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: heard of it? Um? No? But Grenville actually you would

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01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: love Grenville because it's sort of like bear centric gay. Yeah. Anyway,

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: So but you were saying the other day, I asked Sam, like,

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: so what are you doing this summer? And he listed

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01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: literally seven gay destinations. Seven destinations would have the word

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: gay in them. Do you want to list them again? Well,

1427
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: I have to go to Fire Island. I have to

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: go to the gay campground in Pennsylvania. I have to

1429
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: go to the swimming hole in Vermont. I have to

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01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: go to um ye jacob Reeese. Of course that was, well,

1431
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: now I'll go to Gurnville Palm spring well and summer comes.

1432
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: But once a year George was like, should do you

1433
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: should we should work this summer And I was like,

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: Summer's just really hard for me. Episode we're trying to

1435
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: plan like two lives too, like out of time live shows,

1436
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: and saying He's like, well, I don't know, it's so hard.

1437
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: Not in augustus, not in June through May. I'm all yours.

1438
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: June is a little cold in most ys. So honestly,

1439
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: it's like July, August, September, the choice months you want

1440
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 1: to protect. September is underrated, September is underrated, phenomenal vacation,

1441
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: great month, Yeah and cheaper. Yeah, Alison, whenever I'm not

1442
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: prepared listen to this and I can't do it the

1443
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: way you did it, that's okay, that's just you have

1444
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: to make it your own. Yeah, it's not for me,

1445
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: so I think, just please, Um, it's got to be Barry,

1446
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: spoo Camp and Rachel call me for me. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate how today you made me feel. Um, those experience

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Speaker 1: as are foreignty between and when you do have that

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Speaker 1: special time for yourself, you want to feel like you

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Speaker 1: can get sweaty and you want to feel like somebody's

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: yelling at you and you're running to a Z track

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Speaker 1: circus remix with Drake. Yeah, and then afterwards you want

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Speaker 1: to say I accomplished something. I did a thing, and

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Speaker 1: now I'm going to buy myself a tasteful sweater. Whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: I have to say thank you to sponsors Berries and

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Speaker 1: Rachel Comey and Crew. Yeah, Chris Block and actually be

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Speaker 1: a j crew literally if and Berry's actually, if Chris

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Speaker 1: Black could fund our podcast, we would be very happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it. And Sac tells me he has the cash.

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Speaker 1: Those Berry blouses are not cheaper. Yeah, oh god no, Well, Alison,

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Speaker 1: this has been an absolute delight. Yeah, my favorite podcast,

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Speaker 1: A delight. I mean, this is going to this is insane,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be this is a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: episodes of I Hope. So there's a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: I was feeling, like, Also, I guess anyone listening would

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Speaker 1: know that this happened because the fans demanded it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the fans demanded on multiple platforms, Yeah, like three her

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Speaker 1: on it only three platforms. Yeah, and then don't you

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Speaker 1: think it's weird that I said. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's do it, and then I ran into you for

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Speaker 1: the first time. I know, it's crazy. That is crazy

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Speaker 1: that we were at a cool art zone. We were

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Speaker 1: at a cool art very downtown. Wow. I love that

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Speaker 1: we manifested. Um well, thank you also for having me

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Speaker 1: not to be ungrateful. I this is like a delight

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Speaker 1: and I know that the episodes are comfortable. They are

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Speaker 1: very comfortable. Yeah, oh yeah, And a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have We've turned down a lot of people, including Sara Jessica. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she keeps begging carry um well, Allison, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: um oh, do you want to plug your book? And

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Speaker 1: how I do? Yeah? I have a new book out.

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Speaker 1: It's called sweet Enough. It's desserts for people who don't

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Speaker 1: really do dessert And so if you're like I hook,

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Speaker 1: but I don't fake, I feel like you'll still love

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Speaker 1: this book. And if you are like, absolutely not, then

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Speaker 1: there's two other books to choose from in a newsletter

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Speaker 1: on a YouTube channel and it's a multi hyphen it

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Speaker 1: situation over here, love the Wow singer, actress, rapper. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tony ing in a modern media world. Yeah, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Tony It's such an honor to Tony Well.

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Speaker 1: I am one Tony away from Tony Well. Shout one,

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Speaker 1: shout out to the modern media world, and shout out

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Speaker 1: to Alison Roman. Bye bye bye